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  1. Cliff
    November 2, 2011, 12:52 pm

    This is awesome and sad at the same time.

    • seafoid
      November 2, 2011, 5:56 pm

      link to youtube.com

      Exterminate the underclass, exterminate the telepaths
      No civil disobedience, no civil disobedience
      Incubating ultraviolence, psychic distortions
      Slow death injectible, (my case is?) narcosis terminal
      Damaged receptors, fractured speech
      No civil disobedience, no civil disobedience
      Control virus, hallucininatory programmes
      Septicaemic interzone, psychic distortions
      Satellite sickness, tv junk
      No civil disobedience, no civil disobedience

  2. seafoid
    November 2, 2011, 12:58 pm

    link to haaretz.com

    Palestinians must say no to negotiations with Israel
    Diplomatic moves in the United Nations, no matter how refreshingly daring, are not enough.
    By Amira Hass

    Now that Palestine has been recognized by the United Nations’ cultural organization, UNESCO, it will be no more of a non-state and no less occupied than it was before. Its citizens will be no less unfree than they are today, no less under the yoke of Israeli foreign rule. But their civil disobedience versus Israel, the United States and the Quartet raises the hope that the Palestinians will not return to the negotiating table – because negotiations have become an obstacle to the decolonization process, the essential condition for peace.
    The Palestinians’ application for membership in the United Nations was welcomed, even by critics of the Palestinian Authority, because it was understood as the close, albeit belated, of an overly long chapter. This was the chapter in which the Palestinian leadership, in exchange for dubious guarantees and slivers of privilege for a small group, took part in a charade of negotiations, while in reality, the area intended for the realization of the Palestinians’ right to self-determination kept being reduced and fragmented. This chapter exposed the fact that the parties in Israel’s various coalition governments disagree on only one thing: the number and size of the Palestinian Bantustans in Israel’s master plan.
    Ordinary Palestinians understood the application to the United Nations as an act that creates new rules of the game. Therefore, many supporters of the move wake up in the morning with trepidation: Have the steamroller tactics of the European Union and the United States worked? Have PA President Mahmoud Abbas and his eternal negotiators returned to the same sterile table, when it is clear that Israel has no intention of changing its master plan?
    The extent to which the term “peace negotiations” has been prostituted can be gleaned from a remark by the EU’s envoy to the Quartet, Helga Schmid. On October 26, in a last-ditch attempt by the Quartet to stop the Palestinians from applying to UNESCO, she said – according to sources in Ramallah – that the application for membership is like construction in the settlements: a provocation. It is not enough that the EU countries are not punishing Israel for building the settlements (Ma’aleh Adumim or Givat Assaf, all are equally felonious ); now the EU envoy is creating symmetry between years of violence by the occupying overlord and legitimate defense of the occupied.
    Indeed, the Oslo Accords created false symmetry between the occupier/colonizer and the occupied/colonized. This symmetry denied the Palestinians an important asset in negotiations for their independence: recognition in principle of Israeli and international responsibility for having wronged the Palestinians and robbed them of their homeland and rights.
    But Western countries, first and foremost the United States, did not even uphold this symmetry. At most, they scolded Israel while bolstering its international economic and political status, demonstrating that occupation pays. But they punished, and continue to punish, the Palestinians as if they were the aggressors.
    The Quartet, in a conditioned neo-colonialist reflex, threatened that the big boss would stop contributing to UNESCO: Shame on you, natives, it’s your fault. It is a threat that grates on the ears, so unlike the music emerging from Occupy Wall Street and its like-minded movements.
    But diplomatic moves in the United Nations, no matter how refreshingly daring, are not enough. Hints that the Palestinian Authority could be dismantled are also not enough to make clear that the pyromaniacs in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv are putting both Palestinian and Israeli wellbeing at risk, if not the wellbeing of many others in and beyond this region.
    There is no substitute for the strategy of popular resistance, in which there are no distinguished VIPs watching from the sidelines (and also no more Qassam rockets or other methods that target civilians, which have proven their practical and moral worthlessness ). But not returning to negotiations is an essential step in order to disrupt the routine of dispossession, to which the Quartet is a partner.

  3. eljay
    November 2, 2011, 1:01 pm

    “It’s funny because it’s true.” (w/ apologies to Homer J.)

  4. kursato
    November 2, 2011, 1:21 pm

    Great!

  5. pabelmont
    November 2, 2011, 1:27 pm

    Funny but true, if mislabelled. This Bibi’s plan — not for peace but — for achieving Israeli maximalist territorial ambitions and maintaining non-democratic apartheid-style 1SS for the indefinite (but long) future.

    But, yes, he (or Obama) probably does call it a “peace plan”.

    • seafoid
      November 2, 2011, 5:58 pm

      They never dealt with this

      link to youtube.com

      The achilles heel

      • Eva Smagacz
        November 3, 2011, 3:17 am

        A reminder, so desperately needed, that Oswiecim/Auschwitz was not about killing Jews – it was about killing humans regardless of their race.

  6. Charon
    November 2, 2011, 2:02 pm

    The settlement project was designed to make a Palestinian state West of the Jordan River impossible and their population has doubled since the Oslo Accords. Zionists will say that no new settlements have been made since which is a trick when Ariel now expands beyond where the Apartheid wall was planned. They don’t do much about the outposts either

    Pretend for a moment a deal was negotiated today where Israel keeps the big settlements and Palestine gets the rest of the land with an Israeli promise to pull out of the Jordan Valley and dismantle the outposts within five years. Who the eff would trust them to do anything except come up with excuses to extend a then-legalized status quo?

    US stops funding UNESCO for admitting Palestine, but uses their veto to stop the settlement resolution in the SC and only says something like “we don’t agree with Israel, the settlements are counterproductive to peace”

    What about sanctions? What about cutting the $3 billion in aid? If you’re only going to verbally scold them and allow it to continue, why would they stop?

    The Quartet is a joke and calling for negotiations is insulting. They’re only using this as an excuse to blame Abbas for not being willing to negotiate well at the same time Israel can pretend they are willing to when they aren’t either. It’s a cruel nearly 20-year-old joke.

    • Potsherd2
      November 2, 2011, 3:33 pm

      What Bibi is doing about the outposts is looking for a way to “legalize” them according to illegal Israeli law.

  7. Donald
    November 2, 2011, 2:45 pm

    Since settlements have been expanding no matter who is in charge, it’s a little unfair to call this the Netanyahu peace plan. It’s the Israeli peace plan.

  8. Shingo
    November 2, 2011, 7:19 pm

    What’s interesting is that the Zionist propagandaists have insisted all along that the settlements are not an issue, yet, Israel admitted that the plan to build 2000 new units was punishment for the UNESCO vote.

    • Potsherd2
      November 3, 2011, 9:43 am

      And later denied it. But they couldn’t deny that withholding the tax payments is.

  9. Kathleen
    November 2, 2011, 8:09 pm

    Says it all. Well except the decades before Netanyahu of the expansion of illegal settlements.

    • Djinn
      November 3, 2011, 8:37 am

      Exactly, frustrates me no end that many think (or just spin) that it’s just a Bibi/Likud problem. It’s like the memory of the 60 years before that has been wiped.

  10. chocopie
    November 3, 2011, 5:16 am

    Love the picture used for the “pursue violence” caption. That kid, as well as the one in the “pursue non-violence” picture are also at high risk for getting shot in the head with a tear gas canister. In addition to more settlements, of course.

  11. Shmuel
    November 3, 2011, 8:45 am

    Reminds me of the long-standing Israeli catch-22: No concessions to violence; without violence there is no need for concessions.

  12. Bumblebye
    November 3, 2011, 1:03 pm

    Meanwhile, the not-so-peace loving PM, the BigYahu, has ordered an investigation into who leaked his plans to wallop Iran, believing it to be former heads of Shin Bet and Mossad, Dagan and Diskin (team Double D?).
    link to guardian.co.uk

    And a report by the Public Committee Against Torture and Physicians for Human Rights due out later this month accuses doctors of failing to either record or report torture of Palestinian detainees.

    More excuses to build yet more shtetlements in Palestine.
    link to guardian.co.uk

    • annie
      November 3, 2011, 1:15 pm

      more suspect reporting

      Israel’s prime minister has ordered an investigation into alleged leaks of plans to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities, it has been reported.

      According to the Kuwaiti newspaper al-Jarida, the main suspects are the former heads of the Mossad and the Shin Bet, respectively Israel’s foreign and domestic intelligence agencies.

      Netanyahu is said to believe that the two, Meir Dagan and Yuval Diskin, wanted to torpedo plans being drawn up by him and Ehud Barak, the defence minister, to hit Iranian nuclear sites. Tzipi Livni, leader of the opposition Kadima party, is also said to have been persuaded to attack Netanyahu for “adventurism” and “gambling with Israel’s national interest”.

      The paper suggested that the purpose of the leaks was to prevent an attack, which had moved from the stage of discussion to implementation. “Those who oppose the plan within the security establishment decided to leak it to the media and thwart the plan,” it said.

      this is completely irresponsible reporting. can’t the guardian just call bicom and arrange to get a statement from the goi? even a ‘no comment’ would be helpful.

      “It seems that only Netanyahu and Barak know, and maybe even they haven’t decided,” commented Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff, both respected Haaretz writers. “While many people say Netanyahu and Barak are conducting sophisticated psychological warfare and don’t intend to launch a military operation, top officials … are still afraid.”

      yeah, well this very report, which supposedly is the result of a leak to the kuwait newspaper could very well be an extension of not so sophisticated psychological warfare in itself. feigning your own leak wasn’t your leak byway or rumors of an investigation is…possible and likely. imho when there’s an onslaught of reports from several sources in one day it smells more like a planned hasbara operation to me.

      • Bumblebye
        November 3, 2011, 1:27 pm

        So, maybe Bibi lets the very real (even more) extremists in his own gov enthuse and drool over the idea that they could set this off…..and then sneakily pulls the plug hisself?

      • MRW
        November 4, 2011, 4:46 am

        In short, annie, Netanyahu is leaking to cover his ass in order to get out of bombing Iran, which his constituents—the ones with the really high IQ, according to themselves, as I am constantly reminded of in their emails—are lusting for?

      • seafoid
        November 4, 2011, 6:47 am

        It is insane

        the Dems need wars to look credible

        link to haaretz.com

        But it was Netanyahu himself who drove the nail into the coffin of bipartisanship over Israel by aligning himself with the Republicans against a sitting Democrat president. Israel is now a player in American domestic politics, and Jewish-American leaders who insist on remaining on the sidelines seem faintly ridiculous. Like it or not, Israel is a “wedge issue.”
        Netanyahu is critically attuned to American political currents. If he feels that the coming months offer him an opportunity to launch a strike against Iran’s nuclear installations, part of his reasoning has to be that a president fighting for survival against the most pro-Israel GOP in history cannot afford to oppose such a strike. In extremis, Obama may even choose to have the United States launch this strike itself, in the hope that it will give the administration a better chance of stabilizing the post-attack region and to steal the Republicans’ thunder.

      • Chaos4700
        November 4, 2011, 9:04 am

        That’s what the United States has been reduced to, seafoid. Somewhere in the realm of a fifth of our population is unemployed (and probably higher than that, certainly higher among certain ethnicities), millions have been left homeless by big bank and investment firm fraud (the two entities being no longer separate in the US) and we still don’t give every man, woman and child adequate medical care — even when they are employed! — but the Obama administration is, in all likelihood, seriously considering war with Iran even as we pull troops out of Iraq (Maybe?).

        Welcome to the American election year.

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