‘Haaretz’ hosts Ron Paul ad, and questions about Israel’s ‘sway’ in U.S.

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Ron Paul Advertisement at Haaretz

This is seriously great coverage from Chemi Shalev at Haaretz. A complete no brainer but you won’t hear this in the NYT. And that Ron Paul graphic? It’s smack dab in the middle of the article when you click on the Haaretz link. Ha!

Israel has never been so prominent in any presidential race. It never served as such a “wedge issue.” And it never received such sweeping and unequivocal support – especially for its right flank.

The statement made by the current front-runner, Newt Gingrich, about the Palestinians being “an invented nation” is only the most recent in a string of policy statements that, in Israeli terms, would position the Republican candidates – with the exception of Ron Paul – somewhere in the Knesset’s radical right, between the Likud’s Danny Danon and National Union’s Aryeh Eldad. Michele Bachmann says Israel shouldn’t give back one more inch of territory; Rick Perry says Israel can build settlements to its heart’s content; Rick Santorum has already annexed the West Bank to Israel proper; Jon Huntsman claims that Israel is the only American interest in the Middle East; and Mitt Romney thinks the United States should keep its mouth shut on the peace process and surrender the floor to his good friend “Bibi” Netanyahu. Oh, and they all promise to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem, at once.

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Ordinary Americans are bound to wonder about the sway this distant country holds over American politics and about the motives of the Jews that support it. The unusually prominent place given to Israel – often at the expense of pressing domestic issues such as education, crime and poverty, as well as significant foreign policy issues such as Russia, China, the Eurozone crisis and the Arab Spring – is, one must admit, often surreal.

Gee ya think? Thanks Chemi, for saying what no msm journo would dare say in this country, unless they wanted to be out of a job.

25 Responses

  1. Kathleen
    December 15, 2011, 12:54 pm

    Ron Paul gaining and not getting much attention on the fronts of lefty or righty blogs
    Paul’s serious challenge in Iowa could rock the GOP race

    By Shannon Travis, CNN Political Reporter
    updated 12:09 PM EST, Thu December 15, 2011
    link to cnn.com

    • lysias
      December 15, 2011, 2:31 pm

      If Ron Paul wins the Iowa caucuses, the MSM will say the Iowa caucuses are meaningless for the Republican race. They are shameless.

  2. Charon
    December 15, 2011, 1:05 pm

    A lot of haaretz journalists would be out of a job if they wrote the same article verbatim in the US MSM. I just read that Bibi’s approval rating is at 20%. Israelis (‘left’ and ‘right’) are not shy about voicing unfavorable opinions about him, even in the press. Even in the Knesset. Heck, even some of the Zionists and Hasbarists here. Another reason why Congress (both republican and democrat) kissing his arse is surreal.

    • Annie Robbins
      December 15, 2011, 1:21 pm

      yeah, the surreal line is right on. that whole paragraph blows my mind. only in israel.

  3. Dan Crowther
    December 15, 2011, 1:39 pm

    It’s a really sad state of affairs when really the only candidate a thinking person can consider is a 76 yr old, super-capitalist from the south. WOW.

    • Dan Crowther
      December 16, 2011, 9:07 am

      I find it fascinating that so many people here who say they are for social justice, a fairer world and community are all for a guy that says he will cut 1 trillion from the budget year one.

      Personally, I think the American system as it is, isn’t worth saving – BUT, replacing it with unfettered capitalism ( aka “pure tyranny) doesnt seem to be such a great idea. My only hope is that IF Paul were to win the whole thing, he would take seriously his libertarian statements and ALLOW the American Public to decide on what type of economic system we want. I am not so sure this is in the cards….

      But, I also have to think that IF Paul were to win – “1789” would come to America almost immediately and there would be nothing he could do to stop it. It’s a really interesting dillemma…….

      • dahoit
        December 16, 2011, 10:23 am

        Are you ready for strike three on your account of stupidity?The only unfettered capitalists are the duopoly of our whores in sending all our manufacturing overseas,created a wealth extracting service industry in its place of falling wages,housing,jobs,union destruction and a global war machine sucking our lifeblood.
        He is the enemy of those very same unfettered capitalists,witness the attacks on him by them.Wouldn’t those criminals endorse him if he was what you say?Is the FED part of unfettered neolibcon capitalism?He wants to open its books.Every acronym of alleged protection for US has become a capitalist cash cow,and the trillion that he would cut comes mostly from the military budget.You are a militarist?

      • Dan Crowther
        December 16, 2011, 12:15 pm

        my “account of stupidity?” gotta love the keyboard tough guys…….

        The”duopoly of whores” you refer to ARE “STATE” CAPITALISTS. They want to use the levers of power to SUBSIDIZE THEMSELVES….which is EXACTLY how EVERY developed society has developed, by massive state intervention and subsidization of the means of production, controlled by the capitalist class.

        Ron Paul believes in Unfettered/laissex faire capitalism under the banner of “austrian economics” …..there is one glaring problem with this though: IT HAS NEVER EXISTED ANYWHERE, AT ANY TIME IN A DEVELOPED SOCIETY. The reason the “whores” you refer to aren’t thrilled with this plan is because (1) its a recipe for mass revolt, once people are left “to the market” on their own, and (2) without massive subsidies, “state” capitalism will exist for about five minutes…..

        Dahoit, I am about as far from a “militarist” as you can get. I’m a former Marine- I actually know about militarism. Paul’s plans GUARANTEE war.

        American Libertarianism is a fucking fraud. full stop. If Paul truly believed in “human liberty” he would say things AGAINST wage labor, AGAINST capitalism and AGAINST autocratic control of the means of production – which is what LIBERTARIANISM has meant since the enlightenment…..but here in America, like with everything else, words have taken their opposite meaning, so we call this uber capitalist advocate of total tyranny to be “libertarian.”

        I see dum vita below me on the thread saying “paul is the only one who cares” – yea, he cares, unless you are a worker earning a wage, a family in need of assistance, a hurricane victim in need of housing, a flood victim in need of dry clothing and food or a kid looking to get an affordable, public education.

        So, you can all go pray at the altar of Ron Paul, like hes some religious figure – but ask yourself, what do I have in common with 76 yr old “conservative” white men from Texas? If the answer is “not much,” welcome to humanity

      • seafoid
        December 16, 2011, 10:59 am

        +1, Dan

        Ron Paul is as bad as the rest of the Republican candidates.
        None of them cares about ordinary people.

        His position on the environment sucks too.

      • dumvitaestspesest
        December 16, 2011, 11:38 am

        Mistake. He is THE ONLY ONE that cares and IS very reasonable.
        If he is not going to win ,then America can pack its leftover bags and turn off the lights.

  4. Kathleen
    December 15, 2011, 1:41 pm

    Ron Paul Gaining Steam in Iowa

    Published December 14, 2011 | Your World Cavuto | Neil Cavuto

    Special Guests: Rep. Ron Paul

    Read more: link to foxnews.com

    Ron Paul Poised to Pull Ahead In Iowa
    December 15, 2011 RSS Feed Print

    Ron Paul, who was widely ignored by the media and Republican strategists for many months as a serious candidate, is now surging in Iowa and has become a force to be reckoned with.

    link to usnews.com

    US Election 2012: Ron Paul closes in on Newt Gingrich in Iowa
    Ron Paul, the Texan Congressman and standard bearer of the Libertarian wing of the Republican party, has pulled to within one point of front-runner Newt Gingrich in the crucial early state of Iowa.

    link to telegraph.co.uk

  5. Kathleen
    December 15, 2011, 1:43 pm

    Surreal indeed. Amazing that more Americans do not think about this. They have been trained to never question the alleged devotion to Israel no matter what they do

  6. Justice Please
    December 15, 2011, 1:59 pm

    A Ron Paul ad in Haaretz? I’m confused. A few days ago I wanted to make a donation to Pauls 2012 campaign, only to realize that only American citizens can donate in presidential election (which makes sense :-)).

    So is the ad targeted at American citizens living in Israel?

    • Annie Robbins
      December 15, 2011, 7:01 pm

      justice, there’s a possibility the ad only appears for the US market. perhaps it doesn’t show up domestically.

      • anonymouscomments
        December 15, 2011, 11:48 pm

        Further (sadly) very few Israelis read haaretz. The biggest reader block is likely American Jews and liberal Americans who follow I/P. But I think the ad does target based on IP address.

        Also haaretz likely uses google ads, and does little vetting. I think the ads are custom tailored to the individual reader, by google, considering google data on the individual. Also taking into account what ads get clicks for that website of course, hence all the Jewish dating ads, Judacia, etc. But I am no expert on the industry.

      • Justice Please
        December 16, 2011, 8:05 am

        Thanks for the help. Didn’t think of the possibility that the ad only appears for US users. Too bad, I was hoping for advice on how to donate without being a US citizen ;-)

  7. lysias
    December 15, 2011, 2:21 pm

    Jon Huntsman claims that Israel is the only American interest in the Middle East

    I wonder what Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait, and Bahrain, among others, think of that.

    Who ever said Huntsman (who, as a former ambassador to China, should certainly know better) was a reasonable candidate?

  8. CloakAndDagger
    December 15, 2011, 9:31 pm

    At the risk of annoying everyone, please remember to donate at tomorrow’s giant money-bomb for Ron Paul. If you are feeling the pinch, $20.12 is all I ask. If you can afford more, please donate more.

  9. American
    December 15, 2011, 9:34 pm

    “. is, one must admit, often surreal.”

    Surreal is the word for it. A lot of the time when I come to Mondo I am trying to figure out the ending.

  10. Kathleen
    December 16, 2011, 8:54 am

    When you think about Rep Paul not being invited to the Republican Jewish gathering. Such a good sign in so many ways.

    Ron Paul Not Invited To Republican Jewish Coalition Presidential Candidates Forum
    link to huffingtonpost.com
    The Republican Jewish Coalition declined to invite Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) to its presidential candidates forum next Wednesday in Washington, citing his “misguided and extreme views.”

    RJC Executive Director Matt Brooks said Paul was not invited because the organization rejects his views. “He’s just so far outside of the mainstream of the Republican party and this organization,” he told Washington Jewish Week, adding that inviting him would be like inviting President Barack Obama.

  11. Annie Robbins
    December 16, 2011, 11:49 am

    i’m not sure anyone bothered reading the article in haaretz (from the response it doesn’t sound like it) which was actually my motivation for bringing this post forward. it’s actually a great article and is not about ron paul.

    i just found the advertisement amusing in the context of the article.

    what i found most interesting was the last paragraph in the blockquote. i doubt anyone is still reading this thread, but if you are you might notice nobody in the US media says this stuff, only in israel i suppose.

    • American
      December 16, 2011, 12:12 pm

      I read the article. Thought it a particulary good catch on your part to illustrate how this:

      “Ordinary Americans are bound to wonder about the sway this distant country holds over American politics and about the motives of the Jews that support it. The unusually prominent place given to Israel – often at the expense of pressing domestic issues such as education, crime and poverty, as well as significant foreign policy issues such as Russia, China, the Eurozone crisis and the Arab Spring – is, one must admit, often surreal.”

      …..appears no where in the MSM or press in the US…..only on the net at sites like Mondo. And in the anti Israel comments by Americans in articles at the NYT, WP WSJ, every where the subject is Israel. Israel at the expense of America and Americans is the number one rant about Israel and Washington.

      • Annie Robbins
        December 16, 2011, 1:46 pm

        thanks american, yeah..i am afraid in this case the title of the article perhaps distracted from the point of it. sometimes that happens, but ron is hot.

        …..appears no where in the MSM or press in the US….. Israel at the expense of America and Americans is the number one rant about Israel and Washington.

        yeah, that’s why i thanked chemi for saying what no msm journo would dare say in this country, unless they wanted to be out of a job.

        anyway, it was a conversation i would have liked to have had. maybe i’ll try writing another post about it sometime.

  12. Kathleen
    December 19, 2011, 12:19 pm

    Had read the article. Went back and read again. Romney and others have brought up how Gingrich and other candidate infllammatory remarks about the Arab world could add fuel to fiery attitudes towards the US

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