Muslims ban Christmas and rape white women, in latest Latma satire

From Latma, the Israeli producers of “We Con the World,” comes a new video, “Christmas in Eurabia”:

A couple things struck me while watching this video. The first was how unfunny it was. The second was how offensive it was. Let’s explore the latter:

The “Eurabia” threat

The video’s title, “Christmas in Eurabia,” refers to a conspiracy theory that white Christian Europe is being systematically overtaken by immigrant hordes of brown-skinned Muslims from Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia. An uninspired cross between “Europe” and “Arabia,” “Eurabia” is the anti-Arab/Islamophobic equivalent of saying “Jew York.”

To these “Eurabists,” the Islamification of Europe is being facilitated by multicultural permissiveness. The Eurabia ideology takes xenophobia, Islamophobia, racism, and nativism—all traits of classic white supremacism—but combines them with ultra-Zionism, as Israel represents the Western bulwark against the Muslim menace.

The English Defence League
The English Defence League

The equivalent in the United States are the pundits, politicians, thinktanks, and officials who rail against the “creeping shar‘ia” threat. Participants in this American, European, and Israeli network of Islamophobic fear-mongering collectively refer to themselves as the “counter-jihad” movement.

The most infamous proponent of the Eurabia conspiracy theory is the Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik. Although many Eurabists publicly distance themselves from Breivik and dismiss him as a lone extremist, his 1500-page manifesto actually provides a good introduction to basic Eurabist ideology, and the citations clearly identify the most prominent voices in the “counter-jihad” movement. It is instructive to compare the message of Latma’s “Christmas in Eurabia” to the Breivik manifesto in one instance.

First they kill Santa Claus, then they rape your white daughters

As the “Christmas in Eurabia” video goes through its verses, the locale switches from London to Paris to Oslo. When it reaches Oslo, a Norwegian man (portrayed by Latma regular Noam Jacobson) instructs his daughter:

       When they rape you, don’t object,
        For that is politically incorrect.

LATMA rape

The idea that Muslims are employing rape as systematic warfare against white (non-Muslim) women is popular among Eurabists. Breivik’s manifesto is littered with such references. Here is a sampling:

The incidence of rapes carried out by Muslim men in Norway against non-Muslim women is many times higher than rapes by non-Muslim men….

We have had several recent cases where native girls have been gang raped by immigrants in the heart of the EU capital….

Native Swedes are raped, stabbed, killed and chased out of their homes by Muslim gangs….

The massive wave of violence and especially rapes in Western cities now is a form of warfare against whites, and it’s about time it is recognised as such.

Are not the notorious “gang rapes” another example of collective violence to European women….

…Britons whose teenage daughters are being sexually abused and gang raped by various races who hate whites.

The Muslims therefore takes [sic] advantage of their Allah-given prerogative to rape, kill and steal from Europeans as they view this as the spoils of war.

Muslim drug traffickers/dealers all across Europe…mak[e] their subjects addicted to heroin… when “processing” non-Muslim girls for sexual/financial exploitation.

[Muslims] have…raped more than 500,000 European women…

…more than 1 million European women raped [by Muslims]…

Many European girls/women have been raped multiple times. Ratio is an average 200 rapes per 100,000 Muslims annually.

Moreover the connection between “Muslim-on-White rape” and political correctness, as depicted in the video, is expressed frequently in Breivik’s manifesto. The primary facilitator of mixed-race rape is multiculturalism:

Tellingly, when black gang members stab each other or gang rape a white teenage girl or when Muslim jihadists blow up buses and trains filled with innocent people the first concern of the guardians of multiculturalism will be to minimise the racial aspect of these events…

Make no mistake. These Muslims must be considered as wild animals. Do not blame the wild animals but rather the multiculturalist…traitors who allowed these
animals to enter our lands, and continue to facilitate them.

As a result of [multiculturalism]… more than 500 000 European women have been raped…

Fellow Islamophobe and Eurabist Pamela Geller explained that “Breivik was targeting the future leaders of the party responsible for flooding Norway with Muslims who refuse to assimilate, who commit major violence against Norwegian natives, including violent gang rapes…”

In the “Christmas in Eurabia” video, mulitculturalism is depicted as permitting Muslims to commit violence against non-Muslims:

     Someone burned my car, oh pity.

     That’s what happens when you tease
     Islam, the greatest creed of peace.

     But it makes me feel so jolly,
     Proves that multi-culti’s holy

And what is the only “Western” nation not incapacitated by multiculturalism? Israel. Again, from the manifesto:

The truth is that Israelis defend themselves so that their daughters do not have to suffer rape at the hands of Muslim Jihadists, the way the
authorities in Western European countries, and in Sweden in particular, allow to happen every single day.

To be clear, the fear of white women being raped by brown hordes is not based on personal concern for the women themselves, but on concern for the purity of Western heritage. To Eurabists, feminism is as responsible as mulitculturalism for the downfall of Western society:

As a Western man, I would be tempted to say that Western women have to some extent brought this upon themselves. They have been waging an ideological, psychological and economic war against European men for several generations now.

The “Muslim rape wave” myth

Why does the “Christmas in Eurabia” video jump from London to Paris and then to Oslo, where a Norwegian man tells his daughter to let Muslims rape her? Aside from the general tastelessness of the video, isn’t it especially inappropriate to focus on Norway, the site of the recent killings by Anders Breivik, whose crimes were motivated by a fear of creeping Eurabia and the raping of white women by hordes of Muslim immigrants?

A possible explanation lies in a pair of fabricated stories reported by the Israeli settler news site Arutz Sheva. Last June, Arutz Sheva “reporter” Gil Ronen wrote an article entitled “Police Report: All Assault Rapists in Oslo Follow Muhammad,” and he recently followed up on this story with another report, “Muslim ‘Rape Wave’ Reported in Oslo, Ministers Blame Israel.” The articles alleged that Norway was “suffering from an unprecedented wave of rapes that are largely being perpetrated by Muslim immigrants against local women,” based on statistics in an Oslo police report. Moreover, Norwegian “government ministers, most of them avowed anti-Semites, claimed that the report and its publication serve Israel and its policy of occupation,” with Norway’s justice minister declaring, “Israel must be glad to hear about it.”

However, the source for these stories was a single person living in Israel, a blogger named Yehuda Bello who was described by Ronen as “acclaimed,” “well-acquainted with Norwegian culture,” and as someone “who understands Norwegian and has Norwegian contacts.”

Then the story started falling apart. Arutz Sheva inexplicably removed references to the supposed anti-Semitic Norwegian ministers, while Boston University professor and Eurabist nut Richard Landes attempted to corroborate the story about the ministers, to no avail.

Meanwhile, writer Farha Khaled did what Gil Ronen and Arutz Sheva failed to do: she provided a link to the actual Norwegian police report and inquired with the Norwegian justice ministry about the statistics. The ministry’s response:

The Oslo Police District has given a report of rapes in Oslo in 2010. The report shows that for all types of rape, except assault rape, European perpetrators are in the majority, and they are mostly Norwegian. Assault rapes covers only five identified unique person. These have all a foreign origin. The number is however, so low that it does not provide a basis for drawing conclusions with regard to country of origin. Two of them were very young (under 18) and two had severe psychiatric diagnoses and cannot be regarded as representative of their ethnic culture. It is highlighted in the report that generalizations like “Oslo’s rapists are foreigners,” which have been seen in media, are wrong. The report gives no statistics regarding religion of rapists.

While Oslo has indeed been rocked with what has been termed a “rape wave,” authorities are still attempting to identify the culprits and causes, even suspecting the involvement of a serial rapist. Besides, if a “wave” of rapes signals a higher than statistically normal number of occurrences, one cannot necessarily refer to statistics preceding the wave to determine the identities of the current perpetrators.

Interestingly, Gil Ronen had cited another person as an authority on “Muslim rape waves”: the then-pseudonymous Eurabist blogger known as “Fjordman,” who was a primary inspiration for Anders Breivik. Much of Breivik’s manifesto was authored by Fjordman. In the June Arutz Sheva article, Ronen approvingly cited Fjordman’s warning about an earlier “immigrant [and Muslim] rape wave in Sweden,” from back in 2005.

Such reports of hordes of brown-skinned attackers may be familiar to people living in the US in the 1990s, when the media promulgated sensational reports of “wilding” and of African American and Latino “superpredators,” along with today’s recurrent media warnings of “immigrant crime waves.”

As we should be aware, the notion of brown men defiling white women is not a specifically Eurabist scare. It has long been the pinnacle of white supremacist and xenophobic fears, and has long been evoked to justify the oppression and expulsion of brown peoples.

In 1900, South Carolina Senator Benjamin “Pitchfork Ben” Tillman, proclaimed this justification for the lynchings of African American men:

We of the South have never recognized the right of the negro to govern white men, and we never will. We have never believed him to be equal to the white man, and we will not submit to his gratifying his lust on our wives and daughters without lynching him. I would to God the last one of them was in Africa and that none of them had ever been brought to our shores.

I am reminded of a white supremacist cartoon that I once had the misfortune to see. The cartoon, attacking miscegenation, depicted a black man hooking up with a white woman—with the act being orchestrated by a Jewish man. Both the black man and the Jewish man were drawn as hideous caricatures that highlighted stereotypical features. The Eurabist scare, whether portrayed through Breivik’s manifesto or Latma’s YouTube video, is an extension of the offensive cartoon, lacking only in the stereotypical Jew.

(Update: Ali Abunimah has more information about the Muslim rape wave myth on his blog.)

Is Latma a fringe group?

If we define fringe solely by the validity of one’s viewpoints, then Latma, which produced the “Christmas in Eurabia” video, would definitely be fringe. However, if we define fringe as lacking in popular representation and influence and thus negligible, Latma would not qualify.

Latma head director Shlomo Blass has worked on projects for the Likud party, the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, and the Adelson Institute for Strategic Studies. Earlier this year, Blass collaborated with StandWithUs to produce a propaganda video for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The video, starring Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon, was a copy of a settler video for the YESHA Council, with virtually the same storyboard and script, and which was also produced by Blass. The message in both videos were the same: the West Bank belongs to Israel.

LATMA ayalon and settler

Blass was recently commissioned to create another video for the Ministry, again starring Danny Ayalon, and this time purporting to address the issue of Palestinian refugees (of which Ayalon is not one).

Blass also produced the video “Israel’s Critical Security Needs for a Viable Peace” for the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. This explained that in any future negotiations with the Palestinians, Israel would retain Jordan Valley, would control the West Bank airspace and roadways, and would reshape the West Bank borders to Israel’s liking.

More prominent than Blass is Latma’s chief editor, Caroline Glick, who also serves as the deputy managing editor of the Jerusalem Post.

Both Glick and Blass starred in Latma’s infamous “We Con the World” video, which ridiculed the Mavi Marmara massacre and portrayed the Gaza flotilla as an Arab/Muslim/Turkish plot to deceive the world into hating Israel.

LATMA Glick
Caroline Glick, impersonating an Arab or a Muslim or a Turk—or perhaps a crazy Jewish woman from Chicago with a knife. Shlomo Blass can be seen behind her.

The video link to “We Con the World” was distributed to foreign media via the Israeli government press office. After the video was criticized internationally for its racist content, its tasteless response to the killings of nine people, and its contradiction of Israel’s self-portrayal as reluctant killers, the Israeli government claimed that the link was distributed in error. However, press officer director Danny Seaman still insisted that the video was “fantastic,” and Israeli government spokesperson Mark Regev said, “I thought it was funny…It is what Israelis feel. But the government has nothing to do with it.”

In 2010, Beit Hatfutsot, the Museum of the Jewish People, based in Tel Aviv University, presented Latma with the NADAV Peoplehood Award, claiming that the “We Con the World” video “made many Jews feel proud in a time of conflict and tension for our people.”

Earlier this year, Israeli Channel One partially funded Latma to film a pilot for a weekly TV program in the style of Latma’s offensive YouTube videos.

Latma’s funder: The Center for Security Policy

Although Latma operates in Israel, it acts as an initiative of the Center for Security Policy (CSP), a 501(c)(3) and DC-based think tank, where Caroline Glick serves as the senior fellow for Middle Eastern Affairs. The CSP motto is, no joke, “Peace through Strength.”

LATMA peace through strength
Big Eagle is watching you.

The CSP made waves at the start of the Iraq War as part of the neocon network that was planning for US wars in Iraq and elsewhere. Indeed the CSP National Security Advisory Council has at times included prominent Bush era neocons, such as Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Elliott Abrams, and Dov Zakheim, as well as Dick Cheney.

CSP’s founder and president is neocon lunatic Frank Gaffney, who accused Saddam Hussein of orchestrating the Oklahoma City bombing and the 1993 World Trade Center attack. More recently, Gaffney took up the “birther” cause and warned that Obama “not only identifies with Muslims, but actually may still be one himself.”

Gaffney also railed against “Obama’s pandering to the radical homosexual agenda” and the “Obama/homosexual agenda” (in an article strangely placed under a section of the website titled “The Shariah Threat”).

The CSP helped organize the campaign against the Park51 Islamic Center and has been prominent in pushing the “shar‘ia law” scare in the US. Last year, the CSP published a report, Shariah: The Threat to America, co-authored by David Yerushalmi, who has been paid over $270,000 as CSP’s general counsel.

Yerushalmi, who also serves as the attorney for Pamela Geller and Gaffney, is an Orthodox Jew with a penchant for making the most blatantly offensive statements. In an essay entitled “On Race: A Tentative Discussion,” Yerushalmi attempted to justify addressing “blacks as the most murderous of peoples (at least in New York City)” and explained that “there is a reason the founding fathers did not give women or black slaves the right to vote,” since these founders had an “understanding of human nature and its affect on political society.”

On his own website, Yerushalmi stated that

The Jews it seems are the bane of Western society… the Jewish problem for conservatives is a…quite interesting affair. It is most interesting because so much of what drives it is true and accurate… The conservative variety simply professes to uncover the many and varied ways Jews destroy their host nations like a fatal parasite, especially when the host is a Western nation-state… In response, one must admit readily that the radical liberal Jew is a fact of the West and a destructive one.

And when Mel Gibson made his famous anti-Semitic remarks, Yerushalmi defended him by saying

That Gibson sees Jews in an unfavorable light is only irrational if one wishes to make the argument that secular liberal Jews are not in fact the leading proponents of all forms of anti-Western, anti-American, anti-Christian movements, campaigns, and ideologies.

Yerushalmi also campaigned against the Park51 Islamic Center by forming the Freedom Defense Initiative with Pamela Geller and John Joseph Jay, a fellow “counter-jihadist” who advocates killing Muslims and members of the Service Employees International Union(!).

As the Center for American Progress demonstrated, Yerushalmi prepared an “anti-shari‘a” draft legislation that has served as the model for proposed legislation in many states.

Such a congregation of Islamophobic, homophobic, racist whackjobs would be easily dismissed if the CSP and its affiliated network of Islamophobes did not have such immediate access to the media and to government officials, along with access to a multimillion dollar budget. It’s through CSP that Latma’s videos are realized.

LATMA CSP
The CSP website proudly features “Christmas in Eurabia” on its home page, and Caroline Glick needs an editor.

It is thus no surprise that Frank Gaffney, the CSP, and Caroline Glick are all cited and quoted as authorities in Breivik’s manifesto.

Is Caroline Glick a Nazi according to the Jerusalem Post?

On July 24, two days after the Anders Breivik killings, the Jerusalem Post issued an editorial warning that the massacre should not be allowed to be “manipulated” by the Left in such a way as to raise public concern that right-wing extremism was a “real danger facing contemporary Europe,” since the “real underlying problems faced not only by Norway, but by many Western European nations” was the “abject failure of multiculturalism.” That is, the real danger to Europe was the danger Anders Breivik warned about, and over which Breivik committed his killing spree.

An outcry against the editorial was inevitable, and so was the subsequent apology, which the Post issued on August 4, and which included the following statement:

It later emerged that Breivik, a Christian radical, had posted on the Internet an extremely anti-Muslim manifesto that supported far-right nationalism and Zionism.

He apparently feared that a “Muslim colonization” of Europe would destroy Norway.

This is certainly not the kind of support Israel needs. It is the type of Islamophobia that is all too reminiscent of the Nazis’ attitude toward the Jews. Jews, Muslims and Christians in Israel and around the world should be standing together against such hate crimes.

Yet the “Muslim colonization” of the West is exactly what the “Christmas in Eurabia” video is about and is the focal obsession of Eurabists and the so-called “counter-jihadist” movement that includes Caroline Glick and the Center for Security Policy.

Thus, if we are to take the Post’s apology at face value, we would have to accept that Glick’s sentiments, along with Latma’s, are “the type of Islamophobia that is all too reminiscent of the Nazis’ attitude toward the Jews.”

On August 8, Glick responded in the Jerusalem Post with a piece entitled “Norway’s Jewish Problem.” Regarding the Post’s apology editorial, Glick stated, “I was not consulted about this editorial ahead of time, and the editorial does not reflect my views,” implying that the earlier July 24 editorial did reflect and still reflected her views.

Glick refused to apologize, instead labeling her critics anti-Semites and attacking Norway for its pervasive “climate of hatred towards Israel and Jews.” She reminded her readers that Norway was invaded and occupied by the Nazis, and thus Norwegian officials may still be Nazi collaborators. She produced names of Norwegians she didn’t like, such as the humanitarian doctors Erik Fosse and Mads Gilbert. Glick also claimed that “Judaism [is] the only religion that cannot be freely practiced in Norway.”

In a strange expression of moral superiority, she condemned Breivik’s actions, she said, even though Breivik’s victims “had obvious animosity towards Israel and sympathy for genocidal, Jew hating Hamas terrorists.” She concluded by stating that Norway owed her an apology but that no apology from Norway would be enough for her.

Apart from the fact that her long list of things to hate about Norway includes no mention of Norwegian black metal, the main thing that stands out in Glick’s opinion piece is this religious paradox: Glick is more concerned about Christmas being banned in a hypothetical Muslim Norway than she is concerned about Judaism already being banned in a non-Muslim Norway. This indicates either misplaced priorities or an inability to keep her fear mongering “facts” straight. That is, when she wants to criticize Norway, she warns that Jews are unsafe in Norway; when she wants to criticize Muslims, she warns that Christians are unsafe in Norway. Or else, she wants to protect the Jew-hating Norwegians from the Christian-hating Muslims.

Complicated? It’s simply a matter of who Caroline Glick hates most at the moment.

“Christmas in Jewrabia”

For an Israeli group that purports to satirize current events, Latma seems to have overlooked the irony of producing a video about a Muslim war on Christmas while their own government expresses hostility toward Christmas in the name of Jewish nationalism.

Take the case of Nazareth Illit, a suburb of the Nazareth that was the childhood home of Jesus. This year, when Palestinian Christians asked the mayor of Nazareth Illit to permit the placement of festive Christmas trees, similar to the enormous menorahs already on display in the town, the mayor refused. His reasoning:

The request of the Arabs to put Christmas trees in the squares in the Arab quarter of Nazareth Illit is provocative…Nazareth Illit is a Jewish city and it will not happen—not this year and not next year, so long as I am a mayor.

The mayor’s stance was supported by the town’s chief rabbi, Isaiah Herzl, who said that Christmas trees were “offensive to Jewish eyes.”

Never mind that the area of Nazareth was Palestinian Arab and largely Christian before Israel seized the land. In fact, during the imposition of the State of Israel in 1948, Nazareth was slated for ethnic cleansing, saved only when an Israeli officer refused to follow orders and instead decided to honor the agreement made with the town’s inhabitants during their capitulation. Nazareth Illit was constructed in the following decade in order to Judaize the area and offset the Palestinian majority.

In 1954, IDF Planning Department Director Yuval Ne’eman explained that the purpose of Nazareth Illit was to “emphasize and safeguard the Jewish character of the Galilee as a whole, and … demonstrate state sovereignty to the Arab population more than any other settlement operation.” Northern Military Governor Colonel Mikhael Mikhael elaborated that Nazareth Illit would “swallow up” Nazareth proper through the “growth of the Jewish population around a hard-core group” and “the transfer of the center of gravity of life from Nazareth to the Jewish neighborhood.”

And let’s not forget the Israeli Ministry of Absorption’s own war on Christmas, when it recently produced a video warning Jewish Israeli expatriates in the US to return home, lest their children end up wishing a merry Christmas to the grandparents.

LATMA ministry of absorption
Israel, which side of the War on Christmas are you on?

Even Muslim camels are racially inferior

There’s one final thing to be said about the “Christmas in Eurabia” video. At one point, a camel can be seen walking through the Islamized streets of Norway. The connotation is that Muslim immigration will bring backwardness to European civilization, as represented by the orientalist trope of the Middle Eastern camel.

LATMA camel

The irony here is that to diaspora Zionists in the west, the camel has positive connotations associated with the Jewish homeland, as evidenced in these pictures from this year’s “Celebrate Israel” parade in New York.

LATMA parade1

LATMA parade2

This can also be seen in Birthright trips, where the camel ride is a staple of the program to induce an emotional attachment to Israel:

LATMA birthright1

How do we reconcile the contradictory connotations? Camels associated with Muslims/Arabs—as in the “Eurabia” video—are a symbol of oriental backwardness, to be contrasted with the technically advanced western Israeli civilization. It is an Israeli rejection of geographical realities, as Israel is seen to have more in common with Europe than with the Middle East.

However, camels associated with Israel—as seen through the idealized eyes of Zionists in the West—are a symbol of exotic wonder, rooting the Western diaspora Jew in a place that is magical and historically profound, symbolizing a deep yet constructed heritage. Here, the camel is part of Israel’s geography, as the camel, like the land, has been conquered by the Ashkenazi pioneers, and so too have the native Bedouins been conquered and thus now prepare the camel rides for the Birthright tourists as part of the contrived Bedouin experience.

LATMA birthright2
Banner from a website promoting Birthright

“The Tribal Update”

When “Eurabia” becomes a reality, who knows what those nefarious Muslims will do? Once they outlaw Christmas, what will follow? Will they ban church bells? Demolish non-Muslim homes? Flatten complete villages? Evict non-Muslim residents for Muslim ones? Impose mass population transfers? Eliminate civil marriages? View non-Muslims in Europe as a “demographic threat”? Establish segregated roads? Enact laws that favor Muslims? Require loyalty oaths to Europe as a “Muslim and democratic” continent? The possibilities that Latma can take their “Eurabia” scenario are endless, and they just need to look at home for inspiration.

But “Christmas in Eurabia” and “We Con the World” are only samples in the Latma YouTube video series known as “The Tribal Update.” Here are some others.

This video mocks the notion that Palestinians are indigenous to the land:
LATMA ape

And in a skit entitled “Palestinian Eskimos,” the denial of the existence of the Palestinian people turns into a gratuitous joke at the expense of another oppressed indigenous population, the Inuit.
LATMA Inuit

Another video depicts the UN as filled with incompetent Third Worlders such as an African ambassador who is so uneducated he can’t find Israel on the map.
LATMA UN1

And a slant-eyed ambassador eating rice.
LATMA UN2

Rahm Emanuel is depicted as a Jew-traitor.
LATMA Rahm

Barack Obama is a Muslim anti-Semite.
LATMA Obama

If the Obama blackface is too subtle, here’s Noam Jacobson playing “Kazabubu the Jewish Cannibal,” in a skit that ridicules black African “Jews” making aliyah.
LATMA kazabubu

In case you don’t understand Latma’s sense of humor, you’re supposed to laugh as Kazabubu babbles in his stupid African gibberish: “Bu ta le bo bo bi de bbbbbbbbb”—thus demonstrating that he is of inferior stock to the real Jews such as Noam Jacobson and Caroline Glick.

Most of the videos are Israeli talking points expressed by critics of Israel (and semi-critics of Israel) in racist caricature. The humor relies on an elitist nationalist perspective that can be boiled down to this: The world hates Israel, but the world outside of Israel is just a bunch of ignorant Africans, rice-eating chinks, bloodthirsty Muslims, self-hating Jews, and white multiculturalists asking to be raped. Ha ha.

The sheer racism of Noam Jacobson is matched only by his cluelessness, as he fails to understand why his offensive “comedy” skits elicit such hatred—concluding that he is a victim of the world’s hatred against Israel and the Jews. The fact that people would hurl anti-Semitic slurs—unjustified yet unsurprising—against him after watching his racist videos somehow proves that he is doing the right thing. As Jacobson explained to a reporter, “When you see the talkbacks, you know what you’re fighting for.”

Such a remark, made without irony, and published in an article with the incredulous headline, “Fighting the New Blood Libel”—against the backdrop of blatantly racist videos such as “Kazabubu the Jewish Cannibal”—just goes to show what anyone who has sat through a video produced by Noam Jacobson and his Latma colleagues already understands: they have no sense of humor.

About Phan Nguyen

Phan Nguyen is a Palestine solidarity activist based in New York. Follow him on Twitter: @Phan_N
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  1. HRK says:

    My issue with this entire article is that it presumes that people groups are exactly identical in all important characteristics. Sure, Mr. Nguyen would probably allow for “boutique” differences–Italians talk with their hands, Jews–so funny!, those inscrutable Chinese, etc., etc., But what if–what if–two people groups did, in fact, exhibit differences in crime levels?

    Under what set of naturalistic assumptions (stress on naturalistic as opposed to supernatural, fantastical, leftist-wishful-thinking-because-I-no-longer-believe-in-God-but-I’m-scared-to-death-of-the-abyss, etc.) would it be impossible for two people groups/cultures to have different crime levels (–and allow me to add to the hypothetical that the people group with the higher crime level can’t blame that high level on the people group with the lower crime level)?

    Take the Japanese culture. I spoke to two people from Japan a few years back and asked them about a report I heard concerning people losing wallets in sprawling Tokyo. I had heard that if you lose your wallet there, you have a good chance of getting it back. The women confirmed to me that this was the case. Not so in many other large, urban areas. Not so in New York. Definitely not so in some other big cities.

    Also, it’s known that Japanese have ultra-low crime rates. S0 wouldn’t it follow that if people from a culture with high crime rates immigrated by the millions into Japan that the Japanese might experience a crime wave? Unless you think that crime patterns in the immigrating group will simply vanish overnight (right as they pass over the border line), you’d have to admit that the Japanese would have some legitimate gripes about immigration.

    So why can’t the same be said about Western culture? For the record, I haven’t studied Muslim crime rates, so I’m not speaking about that issue here. My point is that why are Westerners always putting their own culture on the very bottom of the pile–as if every other culture must be better than our own in all important aspects (or else we’re racists).

    Also, I’m curious why Mr. Nguyen doesn’t write about his own heritage group. You talk about classic white supremacist thinking–why don’t you tell us a little about classic Vietnamese supremacist thinking? Or is there such a thing, in your opinion?

    By the way, Christianity Today has an article on blasphemy laws in majority Islamic societies. See link to christianitytoday.com

    So why wouldn’t Christians have issues with mass Islamic immigration? –It’s not implausible to think that if Muslims became a majority the same kind of blasphemy laws could be set up in previously Christian-majority countries.

    • RoHa says:

      “people losing wallets in sprawling Tokyo. I had heard that if you lose your wallet there, you have a good chance of getting it back. The women confirmed to me that this was the case. Not so in many other large, urban areas. Not so in New York. Definitely not so in some other big cities.”

      This is so. Amateur dishonesty and crime aren’t really allowed in Japan. Too untidy. Dishonesty is only for politicians, TEPCO executives, and the like. Crime is for the yakuza only.

      When I lived in Saudi Arabia, I was paid in cash. This meant that my wallet was frequently bulging with 100 riyal notes. It was uncomfortable to drive with it in my pocket, so I used to put it on the seat next to me. And more than once I forgot to pick it up when I got home. I parked on the street, under a street lamp. Once the wallet was lying in full view on the seat for two nights and a day.

      When I lived in Britain I used to think myself lucky if the car was still there, with unbroken windows.

      • i left my wallet on the seat of a bus outside of mexico city once. i realized right after the bus took off so i informed the staff at the ticket counter. i got it back in the mail about two months later with all my cards, cash and license via the US embassy.

        • I lost my digital camera on a very busy day in NYC Metropolitan Museum a few years ago. I reported it at their security office.
          Couple days later I got a phone call that somebody return it to them.
          It was a nice surprise. I kind of said good bye to it.

        • Kathleen says:

          I have also had this happen but in the states. All money and cards in wallet at the police station. Good people in the world

    • shawket says:

      HRK, one of the main problems with your diatribe is you fail to realize that by in large the ruling majority will set the tone for discourse and behavior vis-a-vis inter-community relations. If immigrants coming to another country are statistically more likely to commit crime, it is almost assuredly due to being put in a lower socio-economic status. As almost any sociologist will tell you, crime rates are much more highly linked with SES than they are racial or ethnic group. Racial supremacists, however, enjoy conflating SES with race when they begin to associate a certain race with certain activity. It’s easier to say, ‘hey, it’s a black guy, he must be a criminal’ than to process the multitude of environmental factors that went into creating that person.

      While certain areas and countries do have varying crime rates, it would be absurd to link this to culture. Petty crime in many countries in the Middle East is by and large much lower than, say, in Washington, DC, but that can at least partially be attributed to draconian laws under authoritarian Arab regimes. But authoritarianism in the Arab world comes less from cultural predisposition and more from the vestiges of colonialism.

      I understand that it’s easy and convenient to simply see people that look different than you, throw them into somewhat arbitrary classes and then make prejudgements based on the classes that you made up, but in a civilized society, one would hope for a little more thought in human interaction.

    • Phan Nguyen says:

      HRK: “My issue with this entire article is that it presumes that people groups are exactly identical in all important characteristics.”

      I neither wrote that nor implied that, and I challenge you to identify where in my article this is expressed. Otherwise, you are disputing a dichotomy of your own creation.

      “Take the Japanese culture. I spoke to two people from Japan a few years back and asked them about a report I heard concerning people losing wallets in sprawling Tokyo. I had heard that if you lose your wallet there, you have a good chance of getting it back. The women confirmed to me that this was the case. Not so in many other large, urban areas. Not so in New York. Definitely not so in some other big cities.”

      This example is based on hearsay and conjecture (“I have head that…” and “[Two random Japanese] women confirmed to me…”). It’s even less than an anecdote.

      Others have provided anecdotes that contradict this assertion. I will provide an anecdote of my own, both because you mentioned New York and because it’s fresh on my mind:

      “I live in New York. Last week I found a wallet belonging to a stranger and I returned the wallet to its owner. True story. The End.”

      This contradicts your assertion that such an act would not happen in New York. However, it’s also important to note this:

      1. My act of returning the wallet to its owner says absolutely nothing about the general population of New York. And…

      2. If I had kept the wallet, that act would also say absolutely nothing about the general population of New York.

      “Also, it’s known that Japanese have ultra-low crime rates. So wouldn’t it follow that if people from a culture with high crime rates immigrated by the millions into Japan that the Japanese might experience a crime wave?”

      I assume that crime would increase if any culture (regardless of that culture’s “crime rate”) immigrated into Japan by the millions. But you still can’t read much from that. In fact, I would assume that if the Japanese cloned themselves by the millions, crime would increase as well.

      My problem is that your argument is based on conjectures and vague terminology. What kind of culture are you referring to in a “high crime-rate culture”? Are you referring to ethnicity? Nationality? Some other geographically-defined population? A religion?

      And how do you compare general crime rates among different legal and policing systems?

      If I as a New Yorker were to visit Japan (assuming New York has a higher crime rate per capita), am I more likely to commit a crime there than any Japanese I meet? Am I more likely to mug someone in Japan than I am to be mugged by someone from Japan?

      It’s such a loose argument. I can’t go for it.

      “For the record, I haven’t studied Muslim crime rates, so I’m not speaking about that issue here.”

      What is a “Muslim crime rate”? Muslims exist in several different countries with distinct cultures. A suspected rapist in Norway was from Sri Lanka. Another was from Somalia. I don’t know if either was Muslim, practicing or by heritage, but a random Muslim in Sri Lanka and a random Muslim in Somalia would have only so much in similiar. Either way, it does not change the fact that the majority of identified rapists in Norway are native Norwegians, according to the Oslo police study. But since you’re not talking about “Muslim crime rates,” then you’re not really addressing what I wrote but instead projecting some unrelated beef you have onto my article—hence the unfounded accusation in your first sentence.

      “My point is that why are Westerners always putting their own culture on the very bottom of the pile–as if every other culture must be better than our own in all important aspects (or else we’re racists).”

      Are you just expressing this opinion out of the blue, or is it in response to something I wrote in the article?

      “Also, I’m curious why Mr. Nguyen doesn’t write about his own heritage group. You talk about classic white supremacist thinking–why don’t you tell us a little about classic Vietnamese supremacist thinking?”

      You got me there. I shouldn’t have said that the “Eurabia” ideology employs traits of classic white supremacism. Instead I should have said:

      “The Eurabia ideology employs traits of classic Vietnamese supremacism.”

      Satisfied? :-/

      “So why wouldn’t Christians have issues with mass Islamic immigration? –It’s not implausible to think that if Muslims became a majority the same kind of blasphemy laws could be set up in previously Christian-majority countries.”

      There’s a difference between “not implausible” and “likely.” Saying something is “not implausible” does not make for a strong argument. Saying something is “likely” would make the argument stronger but would require greater qualification.

      I can say that it’s not implausible that a majority Latino population in California will result in most non-Latino Californians speaking Spanish. But that doesn’t mean I believe it’s gonna happen.

      As for “blasphemy laws”—first, all governments have blasphemy laws in the sense of social mores that are legally enshrined. Whether a change in religious demographics will alter a country’s laws depend’s on how the government’s laws are structured. So what “Christian-majority countries” that you speak of are soon to be majority Muslim?

      RoHa: “Amateur dishonesty and crime aren’t really allowed in Japan. Too untidy. Dishonesty is only for politicians, TEPCO executives, and the like. Crime is for the yakuza only.”

      Love that.

      • HRK says:

        Phan,

        Thanks for your reply. I can’t address all of the points you bring up, so I’ve picked two.

        First point:

        I’ve mentioned once before on this site that compared to many of the people on this site I seem to be less “bookish.” I probably do read more than the average person, but I’ve never been an inveterate bookworm type, despite knowing that with that bookworm personality comes certain advantages–there’s a lot that can be learned from books, I’ll admit.

        However, there’s a lot that can be learned by “looking around” for yourself, as well. Why is that “book types” like many of the people on this site (possibly you) can’t deal with anecdotal information? It is a type of information. I would submit that many research projects leading to books, reports, printed material, etc. are led by people who have no intent to come to the truth.

        Also, many people are unwilling to publish their true feelings on a matter, but if you buttonhole them at a bus stop, or sit down with them at a coffee shop, they might open up to you. (And, additionally, one has the advantage of assessing their honesty based on non-verbal cues, which are difficult–although not impossible–to disguise.)

        Academic people = book people = equate what’s in books with truth = tendency to equate what they see with garbage or in the least value-less data.

        But what you see is a “primary document,” if you will. In line with the idea that you assemble truth by touching many different parts of the elephant, anecdotal information has a place. Also, I did verify the hearsay information I had been exposed to by asking two Japanese nationals about the situation.

        (Other generalizations about the Japanese–they tend to be more collectivist than the West. Would you disagree with this, as well? –By the way, I think Japan has a very “cool” culture, so by labeling them as relatively collectivist I’m by no means denigrating them.)

        Second point:

        Regarding blasphemy laws. I should make clear that I’m not saying that Islamic-majority countries will invariably lead to blasphemy laws, nor am I arguing that in the future Islamic-majority countries won’t be able to banish such laws.

        Blasphemy laws worry me. I suspect that they worry most Christians who actually still have a genuine connection to their faith (as opposed to merely cultural Christians or deists who masquerade as Christian clergy for the sake of 401Ks, etc.). I don’t think it’s unreasonable to be worried about this. No, I don’t know that blasphemy laws won’t be replicated if Muslims gain majority political power in a previously Christian country. But why do I have to know (as in Know) before I become concerned?

        You disconnect the people in Islamic-majority countries with blasphemy laws from the laws themselves–as if there’s no connection. I suspect that such laws have at least a fair amount of popular support. Why would leaders of Islamic-majority countries maintain such laws on the books if the laws undermined their popularity with their own people?

        You could argue that the laws are only popular with their religious leaders. But then how did the people pick such religious leaders? And why don’t they pick better ones?

        You could argue it’s a divide and conquer strategy, but in some countries in question here Christians are such a small minority there’s no point in dividing and conquering the populace–the populace already is Islamic to a high degree.

        I’ll note that anti-blasphemy laws used to be common in Christian Europe. In Geneva in the 1500s, John Calvin put Michael Servetus to death for publicizing his disbelief in the Trinity.

        To argue that two populations of “little people,” underneath all their rulers’ laws, really both have the same view of blasphemy laws is implicity to argue that two groups separated by geography and historically contingent events somehow have evolved in lockstep with one another (and have done so for ever and always–for centuries), which is even more implausible than arguing that at any given time the two groups in question are the same with regard to what the little people want.

        Though I’m sure you think my view is elitist and “superior-ist,” in a way, your view seems extremely elitist: the idea that people who move here will immediately drop their ideas about right and wrong and transform themselves into people just like ourselves. Did it ever occur to you that others are happy with themselves and don’t want to change?

        I’ll at least grant others as having pride in their own views, even if I disagree with those views.

        Last thing: I have no problem with non-whites talking about white supremacism. When I asked about Vietnamese supremacism I wasn’t really reacting to your critique per se, but instead, I suppose, to my sense that in America in general there’s just so much talk about white supremacism it seems a little crazy to me–as if whites are exclusively the problem. We’re all “the problem,” in my view!

        • MRW says:

          HRK, why would you be worried about Blasphemy laws applied by Muslims if they got a majority in some country, even a Christian one?

          Perhaps you don’t know, but Muslims did away with the concept of those harsh laws in a “1839 proclamation by Ottoman Sultan Abdül Mecid I that launched the Tanzimat period of reforms and reorganization within the Ottoman Empire.” It was called the “Noble Edict of the Rose Chamber.”

          Read what it says:
          link to yursil.com

          This idea that Muslims lived in sheep-herding shtetls over the last 1000+ years is a Zionist fiction. Their science, philosophy, architecture, mathematics, and medicine was highly advanced. Where do you think the Western World got it from? You wouldn’t be able to have a surgery today without their inventions.
          link to 1001inventions.com

        • MRW says:

          HRK, the Muslims invented universities. The first one–and it’s still standing, it’s where Obama gave his speech in 2009–was in Cairo (989 AD). Well, that’s not exactly true, the first one was in India around 600 BC. And there was another that has fallen to ruins in India, as well.

          Timbuktu, which we think of as a big sand belt today, housed one of the most spectacular universities in the world in the Middle Ages. It had 20,000 students, it was green, lush, and verdant, and housed the greatest library of its time.

        • Phan Nguyen says:

          HRK, I don’t totally dismiss anecdotal evidence, but anecdotal evidence can only say so much. As I mentioned, your contention about which societies or cultures would be willing to return wallets was based on less-than-anecdotal evidence. It was based on hearsay, and it was countered by anecdotal evidence provided by me and others.

          Someone visiting New York can determine that New York deserves its reputation as a nasty place because their wallet got stolen. Another person visiiting New York can determine that New York is not as bad as they heard because their lost wallet was returned to them. Both are anecdotes. How can we determine which is more accurate? We can’t.

          I don’t believe that requiring more evidence is “book-ish” or “academic.” I’m simply saying that “I heard from so-and-so who heard from so-and-so” is not a strong enough argument. I’m not asking for a thesis or a peer-reviewed report or even a Powerpoint presentation—just something more concrete.

          “in a way, your view seems extremely elitist: the idea that people who move here will immediately drop their ideas about right and wrong and transform themselves into people just like ourselves.”

          Again, you’re misreading me. I never wrote that, I never meant to imply that, and I don’t believe that.

          “I suppose, to my sense that in America in general there’s just so much talk about white supremacism it seems a little crazy to me–as if whites are exclusively the problem.”

          I did not use the term “white supremacism” figuratively. When I said “classic white supremacism,” I meant it. If you check out white supremacist websites such as Stormfront or David Duke’s website, you will see the same stories about Muslim rape waves in Norway, with the same factual and analytical errors.

  2. pabelmont says:

    April 1? Humor in a jugular vein? Always a danger, of course, that someone could take these seriously (or even think them funny).

  3. Kathleen says:

    So much work above. Thanks.

    The Islamophobes turning up the heat with more lies.

  4. Scott says:

    Wow. One natural comparison is to the Ron Paul newsletters of a generation ago, which are actually less virulent. But this of course is up to the minute contemporary, and right in the middle of the GOP/neocon/Likudnik establishement world view. And of course, this is designed to start or justify a war, which the Paul newsletters were not.

  5. Amazing. This has been posted here before, but deserves a re-post. This skinhead is actually saying “Muslamic rape gangs” but of course it comes out “muslamic ray guns.” Nothing better underscores the mentality of ethnic nationalists. You’ll piss yourself laughing, too.

  6. Krauss says:

    This is a huge post, and it’s well crafted but let’s cut it down into smaller, more easily congested pieces?

    Phan is a gifted writer so I’d like to see her(?) continue her articles.
    As for the topic, muslim rape etc, there’s actually very good evidence that there is a huge overrepresentation when it comes to rape-assaults on strangers.

    Rape is still most common in the home(which shocks some people who do not know this). In Oslo, 100 % of all the rape-assaults on strangers in the last 5 years have been by non-Westerners, often muslims from Africa or the Middle East.

    Source: link to youtube.com

    I have loads of mainstream news articles on this issue to back it up.
    The phenomenon is the same in Sweden, where I live, but here it’s much more covered up. There has been a big uptick in anti-Semitic attacks in Sweden, on Jews, especially in Malmö but it’s spreading.

    The head of the Jewish community in Malmö has minced words for many years but came out in an anguished op-ed the other day and specifically said that all anti-Semitic attacks he has witnessed and other Jews have been subjected to were by muslims.

    It’s one thing to stereotype all muslims as violent, sexually crazed barbarians as the far right does, but the reason why they are on the rise in Sweden, Norway, Denmark, France, Netherlands, Austria and so on is because this is how it looks like for most people. There’s more than a grain of truth to it. There’s no ‘myth’ about this, and if you disagree you’re more than happy to come over here and wear a kippa or watch someone who does for a day or two in our major cities and see what happens.

    Or look leaked statistics in Sweden or in the case of Denmark/Norway it’s official but the pattern is the same. This isn’t what people want to hear, but anti-Semitism and rape are both rising big time in Europe for the last few decades and it’s a direct correlation to immigrants from Africa/Middle East, often with muslim background.

    LATMA may be crude and overly stereotypical, but anti-Semitism in Europe is far harsher than in America and rape-assaults are on the rise too, and in both cases muslims are way overrepresented in accordance to their population even if you control for socioeconomic factors like poverty, class and income.

    Did I wish it was so? No, of course not. But this is the reality and that’s that.
    I know it’s not what some people want to hear but I live here and I see the attacks, the racism and the hatred towards women and gays with my own eyes.

    Incidentially, the Arab world is one of the least developed in the world with one of the worst track records on human rights, especially for sexual and religious minorities. Now there are these microcosms in Europe brewing.
    On this issue, the Left has no answer. Which is why they’ve gotten steamrolled without interruption.

    • excellent — but lengthy — overview of the cult of the Islamophobes.

      my brain seized up at this statement, by Breivik? I assume–

      As a Western man, I would be tempted to say that Western women have to some extent brought this upon themselves. They have been waging an ideological, psychological and economic war against European men for several generations now.

      here’s what I found ironic/important about it. I was researching 1950s eras kitchens for a client and came across this item in a 1952 newspaper (can’t link it so I’ll type it out)

      German Women Face Spinsterhood Bonn, Germany (UP) – Three million “surplus” German women are condemned to spinsterhood as the result of the war, the West German statistical office said today.
      There are 22,700,000 men, after the loss of an estimated 3,000,000 in the war, and 25,700,000 women.
      In the most marriageable age group, from 25 to 30 years, there are four women for every three men, the statistical office said in a report. . . .
      As the result of the scarcity of males there are many advertisements by girls for “male companionship” in the newspapers. Some seek lifetime mates, for others a vacation of even a weekend suffices.
      Since the end of the war there have been 504,144 illegitimate births, the report said.”

      Tentative conclusion: women in Europe became dominant because they had to be independent and make their own way. (not sure if that is “condemned to spinsterhood” or liberated!!!, but that’s a different topic. ;D )

      It also begs another obvious conclusion: in addition to a sheer lack of sufficient males, it is understood that men who suffer defeat in war have lower sperm count. The failure of European states involved in war to maintain native birth rates at a replacement level is the direct result of war.
      Americans should take note of these basic facts. Although relatively few American men were involved in United States wars of the past decade, those who have returned or or will return may suffer at least psychic damage, and American men of the age group who could have been warriors but were not may also struggle with survivor guilt, failure of manliness, etc.
      It’s happened before — Teddy Roosevelt was as eager to go to war against Mexico based on having witnessed his father’s failure to actually fight in the Civil War, an act that haunted the senior Roosevelt throughout his days, and that TR felt compelled to redeem.

      • ToivoS says:

        Directly relevant to the Moslem migration, to Germany at least, was the 4.5 million Germans killed during the war. There was a serious shortage of workers after the war and as the economy began to recover, businesses went to Turkey to recruit workers. Declining birth rates opened up job opportunities throughout Europe.

    • W.Jones says:

      Of course the Left has an answer. Sure, it makes sense to me that crime rates are higher among poor Muslim immigrants.

      First, the left has an answer to the problem of why it happens,- the people are very poor, their countries are poor, their countries where they come from have borne the brunt of centuries of foreign colonialism in the Middle East, and have been ruled by dictators and monarchs like the Shah set up by the foriegn powers., Extreme poverty and exploitive authoritarian governments, combine with other factors like lack of public education etc to crime. This is the Leftist analysis and is quite standard.

      The Leftist critique of religion exists of course, ,but at most the leftist critique says that religion, like Islam, is an “opiate” that misguides people, but ultimately it is not the main source of societal backwardness and oppression, which is economic. This is borne out by Muslims who have lived in multicultural countries and melting pots like the Soviet Union (see for example the many moderate Muslims from Crimea and the Urals) and the US (most US Muslims are moderate). In Europe however, the Muslim immigrants are coming in large numbers to historical “nation states”, and they are ethnic minorities there. Their position, and the social criticisms of them remind me of criticism of “dangerous” Latino immigrants in America. And admittedly Latinos have more crime for similar reasons.

      The Rightwing criticism blindly reduces everything to arguments that our “culture” religion and “nationality” is by definition always superior to others, and that is why our “civilization” is good as opposed to their religion’s barbarism by definition. How stupid this is is shown by the fact that the supposed barbaric countries like Arabia in the middle ages were once “superior” to or comparable to Europe at that time, when Muslims lived together with Jewish minorities, who were treated better than in Europe. And the Arab countries were good in Math, from whence our Arabic numerals come from.

      The Left’s answer to the problems of crime are similar- REGULATE immigration, create an Immigration order instead of the Chaos of massive exploited illegal immigration. Then make strong social programs. Reject the neoliberal economic program of European and US elites that just give the tax breaks to the wealthy, and Intervene to give the poor minorites and others jobs. Try to integrate people like America integrates people into the melting pot and accepts their positives. The Soviet Union focused alot on education, and was successful in educating the Muslim populations. There are examples of secular Muslim countries like Turkey too, so there are answers within the Muslim world itself.

      If only you will look for them…………………………………………..

      PEACE

    • Barbara Specter Lerner on European multiculturalization: I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism because at this point in time Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive.”

      and one way this quote has been interpreted:

      (same link) Here instead is Spectre’s argument, which admittedly doesn’t make a lot of sense:

      European anti-Semitism is a reflection of monocultural European societies. Monocultural European societies always take it out on the Jews. Therefore, the solution is to mix European societies to dilute their monocultural and monoreligious nature and thereby create societies that are safer for the Jews. The old Jewish game for a hundred years or so.

      She says that Europe is transitioning from monocultural, monoethnic and monoreligious (and anti-Semitic) to multicultural, multiethnic and multireligious (and implicitly philosemitic). We are in the midst of such a transition right now, though it has not been completed (true). Jews will play a leading role in this transition, not because they want to exterminate the White race, but because they see this as the best way to have safe societies for Jews.”

      NB. THIS IS QUOTED MATERIAL of the thoughts of others, not my own thoughts.

      talk amongst yourselves.

      • American says:

        Seems she is saying Jews are the ‘leaders’ and will create a new order……..to make societies safe for Jews…rearranging countries and societies ….in a nutshell.

        Blankfort mentioned a Herzl zionisim piece, De Judenstaat, I hadn’t read before so I looked it up:

        “The world will be freed by our liberty, enriched by our wealth, magnified by our greatness”

        link to worldohistory.blogspot.com

        This kind of hubris and delusion of greatness is exactly like the US neo’s idea of themselves and America as a ‘special” people and rightful leaders and rearrangers of the universe. I have said before when looking at Jewish history that it resembles a light bulb going on and off, up and down thruout history. I suspect that there was an element of this kind of thinking – that others societies and governments must be tampered with to ensure Jewish safety and welfare –among some Jewish leadership at times thruout the ages that contributed to their problems.
        We see so far where this hubristic attitude has led the US and Israel and the zionist. Trying to minipulate people’s national societies will turn out like the UK creation of false countries in the ME.

      • American says:

        The other thing that always strikes me about plans to make societies safe for Jews by converting countries to multicutural, multiethnic societies is …are these the same Jews or Zionist who insist on keeping Israel pure Jewish?
        I’ll have to look and see what Spectre’s position is on Israel multiethnic.

    • what are statistics on rape and sexual maluse of women in Israel, Krauss?

    • First, this post may be long in relation to most computer articles but it is the most comprehensive report of this form of Islamophobia and it is significant because it ties these Israeli cretins who produced the videos in with the CSP and Frank Gaffney who was one of the earliest and most important behind the scenes non-Jewish neocons.

      Krauss, re your concerns about antisemitism acts, you might consider that antisemitism in Europe has more than a passing relationship to what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians for the past six decades, to its wars on Lebanon and its overall approach to the Arab Muslim world. There is no way that one can honestly disconnect European Jewry from Israel’s sins since there is no shortage of evidence that the Jewish communities in Europe, with their versions of AIPAC, are proud of their connection and publicly lobby their government on Israel’s behalf.

      Regarding your allegations of the predominance of Muslim in cases of rapes, irrespective of whether what you say is true or not, I find it curious that you “have loads of mainstream news articles on this issue to back it up.”

      • Krauss says:

        I can link you how many articles you want.
        But it’s all in Norwegian but if you insist, just let me know.

        I’d like to make a clear line that it’s one thing to buy the whole crazy ‘Eurabia’ fanaticism, and another to point out statistical facts.

        After controlling for socioeconomic factors like povery, education and income rapes by muslim immigrants and even those born in Europe is far higher than for the general population. Again: after controlling for socioeconomic factors. There’s a simple reason for this: misogyny.

        The same is true for anti-Semitic attacks. I’m not going to excuse rapes or anti-Semitism, and neither should anyone on the left. You can fight both islamophobia and anti-Semitism, as well as misogyny, even if it comes disproportionaly(but not solely) from religious minority groups.

        Here’s some links, by the way.
        link to aftenposten.no
        link to nrk.no

        I can give you more, if you insist of talking out of your a** on matters you do not know one iota about.

        • ToivoS says:

          Kraut, when Jeffrey says I find it curious that you “have loads of mainstream news articles on this issue to back it up.” I don’t think he is asking you for your references. I too find it curious that you would maintain a research archive on such a subject.

        • Krauss, I would agree that misogyny is a problem in the Muslim culture as it and has been in other cultures, the ultra orthodox Haredim being a glaring example at the moment as we have seen from their ugly harassment of an 8 year old girl in Beit Shemesh who they called a whore because her dress wasn’t long enough. I was just expressing my curiosity about your apparent obsession with it.

          While I have not been in Scandinavia in many years, I have been to France and the UK where, in the latter, the last area where I lived is now largely Muslim, but this seemed to be little different than neighborhoods that have changed in the US when new immigrants arrive.

          I don’t countenance what one might call the “old fashioned” version of anti-Jewish attitudes that were prevalent in Europe but not the ME before Zionism, but if you aren’t willing to accept that antipathy to Jews on the part of Muslims stems in a large part from Israel’s ugly history and contempt for the Muslim world and the obnoxious behavior of European Jewish community leaders in their defense of Israel which is readily on display in the UK and France, at least, I would say that you had your head up your a**.

        • Bruce says:

          Krauss, I read Norwegian.

          Your Aftenposten link presents no facts about so-called “muslim rapes” in Norway. In fact, the article doesn’t even discuss mugging rapes, or what you call assault-rapes at all (some people consider all rapes an assault), but rather party rape, which mostly involves young Norwegians.

          The NRK link includes an interview with Hanne Kristin Rohde from the Oslo Police Department. She discusses some of your above statistics. The segment on mugging rape and foreigners is not that long, since Rohde spends most of the interview also discussing date rape. Why don’t you transcribe the relevant part of the interview and let the readers here decide for themselves what your evidence says about the situation in Oslo?

          Believe me I am not talking out of my a** on this subject.

        • Walid says:

          ToivoS, all this brouhaha being stirred up by Krauss is more Zionist propaganda in Scandinavian countries to get them to look negatively on their Arab and Muslim immigrants. It started in Malmo, Sweden 18 months back, by 15 Jewish families (out of a total population of 700) complaining about acts of antisemitism in that city that has 45,000 Arab and Muslim immigrants, that was making them consider leaving the country. Norwegian Islamophobes picked up on it and starting beating their own drums about what Ngyuyen called the “Muslim Rape Wave Myth”. Krauss was not at all interested in what was stated by the Norwegian justice ministry:

          “… The Oslo Police District has given a report of rapes in Oslo in 2010. The report shows that for all types of rape, except assault rape, European perpetrators are in the majority, and they are mostly Norwegian. Assault rapes covers only five identified unique person. These have all a foreign origin. The number is however, so low that it does not provide a basis for drawing conclusions with regard to country of origin. Two of them were very young (under 18) and two had severe psychiatric diagnoses and cannot be regarded as representative of their ethnic culture. It is highlighted in the report that generalizations like “Oslo’s rapists are foreigners,” which have been seen in media, are wrong. The report gives no statistics regarding religion of rapists.

        • Kathleen says:

          thanks to Blankfort

      • Abierno says:

        I would agree with Mr. Blankfort. When one considers that CSP has
        or had,depending upon the individual, US Senators (Inhoufe for example),
        neocons who are active in the current election cycle – Feith, Abrams -
        officers from high in the military and Department of Defense, this becomes a timely and important post since it links mainstream conservatives. “Israel firsters” and politicos with unbashedly racist and inciting videos which if produced in the US and presented on mainstream media channels would be immediately actionable. I think its important to see all of these videos in one place, as they reflect the ethos of Ms. Glick, her Center for Security Policy (CSP) associates, present and past, and obviously some aspect of the current Likud government. Will these videos be presented to the American public at some point during this election cycle so citizens of this country can personally evaluate the purposes to which their hard earned tax dollars are being directed and whether or not they reflect the democratic values enshrined in our constitution and Bill of Rights? Might they find the presentation of their US President in Al Jolson style blackface objectionable? racist? intended to incite hate?

    • Cliff says:

      POST the statistics.

      I’m so sick of all the Zionist trolls crying 1939 without any substantiation.

      Post them, Krauss.

      • Frankie P says:

        @Krauss, Cliff, Jeffery,

        First, Cliff is mistaken to call Krauss a Zionist troll. His history of posts proves that this is not the case. He has appeared to be more of a realist in many ways. However, I cannot understand, Krauss, why you respond to Jeffery’s post by focusing only on his doubt that you have mainstream articles to back up your claims of the predominance of Mulsim rapes. Please address his main point, which is that anti-semitic acts in Europe are directly related to Israel’s long oppression of the Palestinians, wanton wars against numerous Muslim countries, and the blind, full support of Europen Jewry to the Zionist state, including the overt and covert lobbying of European governments. Ignoring this fact is perilous.

        • Walid says:

          Et tu, Frankie? Others, and now you, have taken to beginning their posts to Krauss with words of affection or admiration and going on to tear apart whatever argument he’s presenting like with Atzmon, to which Danaa called him to order and his endorsing of the mythical mass Muslim rapes in Norway that were discredited by the Norwegian Minister of the Interior. The difference between him and the hophmi-eee tag team is that he is very generous with the vaseline. Troll may be too heavy to describe him, but Cliff is not wrong in his assessment. As I said, the more of them the merrier as they add colour and spice to this blog. Is he a Zionist don that’s got everybody worried about hurting his sensitivities; will I wake up with a horse’s head in my bed?

      • Bruce says:

        @Cliff

        Krauss disappeared for some reason.

        I doubt you will see them posted.

        • Danaa says:

          Yes, something is definitely up with Krauss (or down, as the case may be). I agree with Toivo S and Jeffrey that it is indeed a bit peculiar that he claims to have assembled a collection of MSM references focusing on the terrible, civilization shaking problem of muslim-on-non-muslim rapes and other assorted assaults. That would be an interesting hobby, to say the least.

          As Bruce noted, a reading of the originals in Norwegian appears to turn the hard-core claims of an epidemic muslim mass rapes of the blue-eyed races into a dust storm that carries little substance other than dribbles of snowy flakes. So what’s we are seeing – aided and abetted apparently by Krauss – is the tip of the iceberg flung at Scandinavia, seeking to rile up the innocent populous and wake them up to the danger in their midst, just as Phan has so aptly documented. And there are similar campaigns going on in France and the UK – which seem strangely coordinated.

          It is no secret that there’s an outright attempt undertaken by certain forces to direct the message, with Scandinavia targeted specifically. I read somewhere a report of research done about the ownership of key newspapers and outlets in Sweden. Couldn’t find that article in a cursory search through my files (if that rings a bell with someone, please share). It was quite an interesting read, if I recall (I’ll keep searching for that reference and share if I find it).

          What I do know for sure is that there has been a perceptible rise in the right wing, anti-multicultural pitch in Finland, just over the past 2 years. This campaign has already notched a victory in the 20% showing of the True Finns party. Interestingly, If you speak to actual, real Finns, you’ll find that the real foreigner invasion they are most concerned about is from Russians, who are flocking to Finland as fast as they can (and for perfectly understandable reasons, for the most part). I will also bring up the interesting tid-bit that Poju Zebludowitcz – of the UK BICOM/Liam Fox fame is from Finland; and though he cannot go back (for violating certain business regulations), his holdings in that country are considerable, and his influence not negligible.

          Krauss must be one of the more capable zionist props, who I am glad to note may belong to the A team. I was impressed with some of his well argued posts here. Don’t worry Cliff, it is gratifying that MW has now been rated sufficiently important to bag a good shill. For myself, I’ve been asking Hasbara central for some time for some of their higher quality crew.

        • Cliff says:

          Bump, so it’s safe to assume Krauss was not telling the truth or at the least, exaggerating.

    • skurt says:

      since I speak swedish i’d like to comment on claims that antisemitic attacks are spreading in Sweden by referring to statistics from swedens `national council for crime prevention´.it is true that antisemitic attacks in sweden increased dramatically in 2008/2009 ,corrolating with the israeli attacks on gaza.the statistics from 2010 do suggest that the dramatic increase from previous two years might be temporary.
      link to bra.se

      furthermore:in 2004 and 2008 there was a significant increase in recorded attacks.but this could coincide with the fact that the council the same two years changed their methods for collecting data.

      who are responsible for the attacks?there’s no statistics on religious,ethnic or national affiliations related to hate crimes,but the council year after year specifically mentions persons associated with “white power”-groups.this suggests at least that one should be careful with drawing conclusions based on the political climate in only one city.

    • LeaNder says:

      Phan is a gifted writer so I’d like to see her(?) continue her articles.

      Krauss, so far I assumed Phan is a he, not a she, thus I wonder who is right? A Photo would help Phan.

      There has been a big uptick in anti-Semitic attacks in Sweden, on Jews, especially in Malmö but it’s spreading.

      Could you give us a little more details on the specific antisemitic incidents in Malmö? Like number of incidents, what exactly happened?

  7. They (Latma )should also sent along this video from Israeli TV.
    I’m sure European ( Amercian) Christians would love it.

  8. snowdrift says:

    Very good and thorough post, thanks. This is all part of a larger trend where most of the far right in Europe and North America is shedding the old antisemitism and turning its guns on the new enemy du jour, Muslims. Even the French FN, led by the daughter of the party’s historical leader, is reaching out to the leadership of French Jewish organizations and to Israel. She’s been given the cold shoulder for now, but for how long?

  9. Bumblebye says:

    How on earth can the “Center for Security Policy” describe itself as non-partisan? It’s personnel are self-declared right-wing racists, be that in the US sense or the Israeli sense! How can funding the blatantly racist Latma videos be remotely conducive of “Peace through Strength”? More like dominion thru hate. And so much for being about American security! These hate-fests can hardly promote that.

  10. W.Jones says:

    CSP’s general counsel wrote:
    “the Jewish problem for conservatives is a…quite interesting affair. It is most interesting because so much of what drives it is true and accurate… The conservative variety simply professes to uncover the many and varied ways Jews destroy their host nations like a fatal parasite, especially when the host is a Western nation-state…”
    ????????????????????????????

  11. Real Jew says:

    This is exactly the problem regarding Muslims. I tend not to submit to conspiracy theories but for whatever reason the media finds it acceptable to spread highly offensive and false stereotypes associated with Muslims. Whether the program is intended for comedic purposes or not, it is grossly irresponsible and dangerous. As the Anders Breivik’s tragedy SHOULD have taught us, this sort of racist media in the hands of bigots can and will be misused to justify hatred and violence.

    • iamuglow says:

      Unfortunately this kind of stuff is rampant and mainstream.

      link to en.wikipedia.org

      “The Dictator is an upcoming 2012 film starring Sacha Baron Cohen. Cohen’s fourth film will “tell the heroic story of a dictator who risked his life to ensure that democracy would never come to the country he so lovingly oppressed”,

      • munro says:

        If you like Latma you’ll love “The Dictator” (posted down thread but as Philip says, I’m ‘scratching an itch’ wrt to Larry Seinfeld Charles and SBCohen).

  12. GalenSword says:

    Nguyen may not realize it but he shows how much the new Jewish media recreates the bigotries of the old European Jewish press against Christianity with one qualification. The target nowadays is mostly Islam.

  13. It is interesting.
    Hitler ,in the pre-war Germany allowed the spread of the massive, anti-Semitic propaganda. Now the ones, who were affected by it, in a horrible way ,are spreading anti-Arab propaganda, in the most obnoxious way possible.
    Plus, the are also spreading anti-Christian propaganda in their own country, while in America they are trying to please evangelical Christian Zionists.
    The goal of all of it?? Divide et impera.
    The more goyim argue and hate each other ,the more Zionists win.

  14. Walid says:

    “… In fact, during the imposition of the State of Israel in 1948, Nazareth was slated for ethnic cleansing, saved only when an Israeli officer refused to follow orders and instead decided to honor the agreement made with the town’s inhabitants during their capitulation. ” (Phan Nguyen)

    About getting rid of Galilee Christians, the aborted Zionist plan to do it was a little more complex than the above quoted oxymoronic benevolence of an Israeli officer in 1948. Getting rid of Muslim and Christian Palestinians had been on the Zionists’ planning board since the early 1930s, long before the establishment of Israel. Earlier today, I posted a reference to the planned transfer of the Christians on Allison’s thread on the transfer of the 70,000 Jerusalem Palestinians; here’s part of it for those that may have missed it:

    Down the transfer road a bit later on in 1951, the subject was again revived by the Zionists to do a number on the Christian Palestinians of the upper Galilee this time by moving them to Argentina.

    Israel Shahak, PhD, the late Professor Emeritus at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, in an Spring 1989 article published in the Journal of Palestine Studies titled “A History of the Concept of ‘Transfer’ in Zionism,” wrote:

    “By 1951, Israel had signed cease-fire agreements with the neighboring Arab states and had a Palestinian population that represented only a fraction of its pre-1947 numbers. In autumn of that year, Weitz [Yosef Weitz, former Director of the Jewish National Fund] met with Moshe Sharett (28 August 1951), the Israeli minister of feoreign affairs, to discuss the ‘project of transferring or of contributing to the emigration of the Christian Arabs of the upper Galilee to South America…’ Sharett was to bring this idea of ‘transferring’ Christian Arabs before the prime minister, Ben-Gurion. On 31 August Sharett’s secretary notified Weitz that Ben-Gurion had given his agreement and authorized the project. However, on 13 November 1951 Weitz recorded that that very day he had had an interview with the prime minister in order to obtain his special blessing before going to Argentina, the place to which the Christian Palestinians were to be ‘transferred.’ When reminded of the idea, the prime minister remarked ‘that it was a splendid idea, and very important.’ On 30 November, Weitz was in Buenos Aires where, in the Israeli legation, he consulted with three Jewish agronomists who had been in Argentina for a long time to draw up a schedule for his tour of a few provinces in connection with the ‘transfer’ plan.

    After completing his Argentine tour, on 5 February 1952 Weitz was back in Jerusalem to discuss the matter with Ben-Gurion. The prime minister’s primary concern was that the Christian Church would surely oppose the project, but that, nonetheless, ‘We must do it.’ And the process began at once. On 6 March, Witz, together with another official of the JNF, was in Jish, a Christian village in the Upper Galilee, trying to ‘persuade’ its inhabitants to emigrate to Argentina. The first meeting was unsuccessful, but Weitz returned for a second meeting, the results of which he recorded on 8 March. Weitz relates how he tried again to describe Argentina as the best of all lands, but his listeners sat in silence until the end, when one Palestinian remarked, ‘No country is as good as this country of ours. Even our mountains are better than the plains over there. Even the rock can grow plants, and every stone produces a crop.

    The plan of ‘transfer’ of the Christian Palestinians to Argentina had apparently failed, as witnessed by the subsequent silence on the matter by Weitz. However, from other information, it is known that it was pursued for some months, using the means described above as well as through offers of considerable bribes, but again without success. The authorities were unwilling to employ extreme forms of pressure against Israeli citizens, and therefore, the plan was allowed to die.”

    For other that and other more recent stories of transfer, including the gem by Lieberman:

    link to israelipalestinian.procon.org

    • munro says:

      Lebanese friends of mine insist that Henry Kissinger made an offer to transfer the Maronites to Nevada. Have you heard of this?

      Some info here but I can’t vouch for it
      link to hk-elie-hobeika.blogspot.com

      • Walid says:

        Munro, that offer was most probable although I’m not sure about Nevada. During the early stages of the 1975 civil war, the US had ships anchored off Lebanon’s shores to pick up the masses of Christians that would want to leave but there were hardly any takers. What has become commonly known as the “Kissinger Plan” involved the redrawing of the Middle East by shifting and relocating ethnic groups to stem the rising tide of nationalism that was not in the best interest of the western powers and those of Israel. Decades later, Condoleeza Rice tried to revive the concept with the American redrawing of the Middle East by the assault and cutting up of Iraq, Afghanistan, and the 2006 war on Lebanon that she referred to as the birth pangs of a new Middle East that appeared to involve uprooting the 1.5 million Shia of south Lebanon away from Israel’s border.

        That question of relocating Lebanon’s Christians was again in the news a few weeks back when the Lebanese Maronite Patriarch was on a state visit to France. Nahar reported on it:

        “Ad Diyar daily had reported last week that Sarkozy had proposed to Maronite Patriarch Beshara al-Rahi during his visit to France that since the Christian population in Lebanon has dwindled to 1.3 million and 2.5 million in Syria, then why don’t they all immigrate to Europe?

        He explained that Europe is capable of harboring them since it accommodated the two million Iraqi Christians who fled the war in their country.

        The French president added that given the clash of civilizations in the Middle East, especially between Muslims and Christians, there is no room left for Christians in the East, reported the daily.

        Al-Rahi reacted to the suggestion with incredulity, wondering how such a matter could be possible, to which Sarkozy responded by showing him statistics that three million Christians immigrated from Lebanon during the past 20 years.”

        link to naharnet.com

        The newly elected Patriarch was offended by Sarkozy’s offer since he had taken on the task of repatriating the Lebanese, Syrian and Iraqi Christians. Sarkozy’s numbers are somewhat on the wild side.

        BTW, Hobeika was the Christian militia big boss and ally of Sharon at Sabra and Shatila.

    • Phan Nguyen says:

      Yes, I acknowledge that the story of the near-ethnic cleansing of Nazareth in 1948 is more complicated than the sentence I wrote. However, the article could not go into detail without straying further from its focus.

      The reason I mentioned the Israeli’s officer’s refusal to depopulate Nazareth was to demonstrate just how close Nazareth was from being totally cleansed. All it took was for the officer, Ben Dunkelman, to implement the orders given to him. Because Nazareth remained, Israel utilized other means to overcome the Palestinian-majority population there, which is detailed in the link that I provided in the text.

      I only touched on Nazareth and the origins of Nazareth Illit. None of this discounts the larger Zionist plans to expel the populations, before and after.

      • Walid says:

        “I only touched on Nazareth and the origins of Nazareth Illit. None of this discounts the larger Zionist plans to expel the populations, before and after.”

        Nguyen, that was good essay in all aspects. Thanks. We talk about the horrors and the terror that fell from the sky on Gaza so much that we forget those that fell on Viet Nam and senselessly killed millions. With western manipulation, maybe in time we’ll be made to forget those over Gaza too.

  15. American says:

    All of this is really disgusting…that’s all I can say.
    Who would these satires appeal to except someone who is already a bigot?
    I guess that is the purpose, to focus the bigots on the Muslims.

  16. Cliff says:

    Zionism is racism. These people aren’t fringe. They are mainstream. Mainstream Israeli intellectuals/Zionist Jewish intellectuals like Glick who writes for the JPost.

  17. Rusty Pipes says:

    Mel Brooks they are not. Would they even get the joke, “Where the white women at?”

  18. Dan Crowther says:

    An authoritative post on these sick F’s.

  19. munro says:

    One in 10 Norwegian women over the age of 15 has been raped, according to the country’s largest shelter organization, the Secretariat of the Shelter Movement. But at least 80 percent of these cases are never brought to official attention and only 10 percent of those that are end in a conviction, the Justice Ministry says.
    Nowhere is this taboo more stubborn than in the family home, long considered off-limits for law enforcement and the state.
    “The statistics tell us that the safest place for women is outside, on the street — most rapes happen at home,” said Tove Smaadahl, general manager of the Shelter Movement. In a 2005 survey by the Norwegian Institute for Urban and Regional Research, 9 percent of female respondents in a relationship reported experiencing sexual assault.
    link to nytimes.com

  20. Elisabeth says:

    I wonder to whom these messages are adressed? It cannot be to Europeans (apart from the fringe, psychotic Breivik type), as we in Europe know that this is such utter crap that it does not ring a bell. When things really hit on something, when there is a play on things that are really going on in a society, you cannot help but laugh, but this is just dumb.
    The language is English not Hebrew, so the intended audience in clearly not Israeli. The intended audience is uninformed Americans then?

    • Phan Nguyen says:

      Elisabeth, Latma’s “Tribal Update” program is primarily performed in Hebrew, although English is used when they’re impersonating an English speaker or doing a parody of an English-language song. I believe that Noam Jacobson, who does most of the impersonations, is a native English speaker. Caroline Glick is originally from Chicago, and Shlomo Blass’s first language was English. Their primary audience is Hebrew speakers, but they always provide subtitled translations in English and sometimes in German—maybe other languages, too.

      Glick wrote on her website that she wanted “Christmas in Eurabia” to go viral in the US and Europe.

  21. The KKK would be proud to disseminate such lurid trash as this. Except they would be pilloried for it. Yet Zionism freely assumes, and gets, a free pass. I think it is most indicative of what passes for assumptions made inside Israel of what is ‘normal’ or acceptable language. They live in a bubble, where the common language is harshly racist against Muslim people, and lurid fantasies about Europe abound, no doubt due to the European inheritance of many residents – in that respect similar to English people resident abroad who trade stories about the descent of English culture due to ‘immigration’ – all of it uninformed, bigoted, racist crap. They are more fixated on the European criticism of them, since it is demonstrably true in many respects, and deflect it with this sort of comic book vitriol. They are deeply psychologically warped people.

  22. Man this room is brutal on zionists or is it on bigots.

    • Walid says:

      “Man this room is brutal on zionists or is it on bigots.”

      The 2 groups are really one and the same, a time for peace, and it’s because we let facts get in their way to trip them and people like Krauss with things like what Nguyen wrote:

      “…. However, the source for these stories was a single person living in Israel, a blogger named Yehuda Bello who was described by Ronen as “acclaimed,” “well-acquainted with Norwegian culture,” and as someone “who understands Norwegian and has Norwegian contacts.”

      Then the story started falling apart. Arutz Sheva inexplicably removed references to the supposed anti-Semitic Norwegian ministers, while Boston University professor and Eurabist nut Richard Landes attempted to corroborate the story about the ministers, to no avail.”

  23. NickJOCW says:

    There is a well documented tendency for oppression of minorities to develop during periods of economic stress. The sort of thing in this post looks like a deliberate effort to divert the phenomenon away from those Jewish communities in the West which have traditionally born the brunt of it. However, instead of uniting Jews and non-Jews in a common distrust of Arabs, it is more likely simply to fan Islamophobia. Anti-Semitism and Islamophobia are similar phenomena, they are social diseases and one cannot be employed to cure the other. The principle difference is that Anti-Semitism has largely been driven underground. A second distinction is that the largest visible section of Arabs in Europe is among the unemployed, which is far from true of Jews. Overt examples of both lie predominantly with younger, socially disenfranchised males, the sort of people who desecrate mosques and synagogues, but while there is less Islamophobia (not to be confused with general anti-immigrant feelings) among middle class Europeans there is a fair bit of anti-Semitism. This is identifiable, for instance, in defensive remarks like, Many of my best friends are Jews. You are as unlikely to recognise an anti-Semitic European as you would a homosexual 60 years ago whereas Islamophobes are out of the closet and thus appear more numerous. The real problem lies in the manner in which anti-Israeli sentiments, fostered by humanitarian sympathies, may activate distasteful but essentially harmless anti-Semitism. I am aware this is a generalisation unsupported by direct example, but if you regard it as a lens and just look through it for a moment you may detect some truth in it.

    • The real problem lies in the manner in which anti-Israeli sentiments, fostered by humanitarian sympathies, may activate distasteful but essentially harmless anti-Semitism.

      please explain

      instead of uniting Jews and non-Jews in a common distrust of Arabs, it is more likely simply to fan Islamophobia.

      what’s the difference?

      • NickJOCW says:

        Annie, fifty some years I developed malaria and although it was cured and I have had no symptoms since, I am told that it is still dormant in my system (a reason I am not able to give blood). In the same way, fifty some years ago there was manifest anti-Semitism in Europe and I suspect much is simply dormant, lying deep inside people who show no symptoms, do not say anything anti-Semitic and certainly would not perform any anti-Semitic act. Superficially they are as free of anti-Semitism as I am of malaria. However, as the predicament of the Palestinians becomes more widely known and efforts such as these naff videos (which I cannot imagine fanning anything but incredulity if not disgust) are seen for what they are, it seems to me possible that the distinction between Israelis and Jews will become ever more blurred so that the negativity both the Palestinian predicament and this kind of propaganda inspire will tend to provoke the latent anti-Semitism. If you consider what is allowed to be said about Arabs but cannot be said about Israelis there is a festering imbalance which has the potential to break out. If people are going to get worked up by the injustices in Gaza, where else is their anger and disgust to be directed? In other words, I suggest that videos like these are more likely to fan anti-Semitism than Islamophobia. To an extent, the same applies to the demonisation of Iran.

    • American says:

      “This is identifiable, for instance, in defensive remarks like, Many of my best friends are Jews”

      I don’t think you need all these ‘identifiers’ for anti semities. Just state that everyone is anti semitic, save yourself the trouble of coming up with all these identifiers.

    • unreal…how popular is this racist show anyway? very weird…so racist.

      • W.Jones says:

        Well, from the looks of it, it goes on Israeli TV, so that’s a big audience. I have seen it posted on the internet before, when they ran a comedy “Jihad Bells” making humor about Muslim persecution of Christians in Muslim countries. Obviously rather callous. But actually the number of Christians has increased by a much higher rate in the surrounding countries than in the territories occupied by the Israeli army. So the lesson is that I assume there is discrimination against Christians in the other countries, but it is not as brutal as the occupation. One reason for the brutality could be the goal of population replacement in some areas, like the Jordan Valley and around Jerusalem and around settlements.

        This directly affects the Christian population, which is centered especially around Jerusalem.

  24. split says:

    In couple of Slavic languages the term “instigator” (someone who turns peaceful communities against each other to take an advantage of them to be precise) derives from the word “Jude” – Listening and looking at this warmongers I realise why ,…

    • W.Jones says:

      Not Russian (orthodox church country)- podstrekatel, zachinshik
      Not ukrainian (same)- zavediy
      However, there are 6 words for this in Polish (Roman Catholic country), and one of the apparently less common words for this is judziciel.

      Now for some humor. A common word in Russian for mercurial is “Jesuitical.” Stalin and I vaguely remember Trotsky both used this term. It actually literally refers to the Jesuits. In fact, the term Jesuitical I assume has this same negative connotation in English, but more rarely used.

      Now obviously, Polish are not going to use the term Jesuitical. Because they themselves were controlled by the Roman Catholic Church. So they had to pick something else to refer to a conspiracy that refers to their own group. LOLZ.

      Now the RC church really did have tons of power in Catholic countries. Witness for example the inquisition. The RC church forced Orthodox to accept Catholicism. In the context of medieval language development, the term “jesuitical” makes sense.

      Further, Jewish people were the victim of popular prejudice, and I very highly doubt they had lots of power to control the Russian Czar’s government. This radicalized them at the time. And as a result, I think by nature Jews should be more progressive enough from their own experience to recognize when a weak population is being oppressed and gradually expelled from their homeland.

      However, this is a topic for another post.

      • split says:

        (someone who turns peaceful communities against each other to take an advantage of them, to be precise) – You didn’t noticed my description in the brackets or you don’t wan’t too ? ,…

        • W.Jones says:

          Well No, I didn’t notice your description, because I think you edited it in after your initial posting. But anyway, I don’t see why your definition of instigator in brackets would’ve changed my response, because I already knew what it meant.

          Happy New Year.

        • split says:

          (“judzi”) This term points to particular group of people (Haredi/Orthodox Jews) known for their cunning ways to polarise others to achieve their goals and profit from it. This term didn’t arrive because of Catholic Church but long time ago during 800 years of an experience in coexistence with them. Their secretive lifestyle, strange customs, different language, clothes, living in self-imposed ghettos, resentment to assimilate, didn’t help.

          The description in brackets is there because I can’t think of any English ‘twin’ to match this term. Political correctness is not helping, it’s hard to explain it’s meaning to anyone who’s native language isn’t Polish and mostly because I didn’t want to offend anyone ,…

          dumvitaestspesest ,… I’m aware of my lame English, please correct me if I have missed the target.

          Do siego Roku to you too !!! ,…

        • Hmm, I really do not know the etymology of this Polish word “judzic”, which basically means to incite, stir up,foment, agitate, provoke, cause a disturbance etc.
          But …in my modest , ignorant opinion of a laic, it could also be traced/connected to the word Judas ,(“Judasz “in Polish ), which of course means a guy, who betrayed Jesus, and caused a lot of disturbance in the life of Jesus. Judas, (Judasz) except being a synonim for a traitor, is also often regarded as the one who was plotting something evil, who can’t be trusted , who said one thing, and did another.
          So this word “Judzic” could also , in IMHO, be traced to the infamous Judas aka Judasz.

          Szczesliwego Nowego Roku , zdrowia ,szczescia i pomyslnosci :)

        • split says:

          Judas, (Judasz) agree for being a synonim for a traitor or snich for a reward, also if I may add a term for a peephole in the door but not for turning people against each other to take advantage of them ,…

  25. jonah says:

    I like a lot the latma satires. Their humor is very Jewish, surely a little over the top – as satire should be – but always with an undeniable element of truth inside. But I can also understand the non-Jewish (and anti-Zionist) frustration in seeing these videos. It’s like asking a cactus to understand the foolish grin of Eli Wallach in “The Good the Bad and the Ugly.” Can not.

    • W.Jones says:

      Admittedly, the double meaning of a reference to “Yeshu” in a comedy show would probably pass most non-Jewish people by.

      But perhaps, I, a lowly creature, may aspire to the humor too? After all, it may be possible for a cactus to understand the grin, if one surgically implants a brain into the cactus.

      Peace.

    • ToivoS says:

      Jonah, If you like these “satires” I presume you must be Israeli. I have noticed that overt anti-arab racism seems almost routine with some of the Israelis I have worked with. These are people who were/are friends of mine and the expressions appeared almost unconsciously. You have no idea how offensive these skits appear to more cosmopolitan western people. Being isolated in that small corner of the ME is hurting your personal and cultural development.

      • jonah says:

        No Toivo, I’m not Israeli, but I have relatives in Israel.

        And no, I don’t like the Latma satires because they allegedly should be racist on the Arabs, as mirrow of “anti-Arab racism by the “Israelis” (I suppose you mean obviously the “Israeli Jews“, since Israeli are also one million and a half Arabs).

        In fact, they are not. What you perceive as alleged racism is in truth nothing but a satire on the pervasive hypocrisy displayed by both the Arab and Palestinian – but here we can already speak without problems of deliberate duplicity – AND the West, in particular Europe. That means anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish hypocrisy (in fact, you yourself have just excluded Arabs from being “Israeli”, since Arabs can not be anti-arab racists, or not?) in disguise of ‘humanism’ and ‘humanitarianism’, that contaminates the whole discourse about the I-P-conflict. This makes me so laugh, Toivo.
        Because, unlike you und your fellows, who want only to see an alleged and apparent Israeli racism in them, I see in these satire the bitter (and very Jewish) humor, directed to the prevailing pseudo-humanitarian respectability – read ‘political correctness’-, which hypocritically turns away the look on the evident evil, unless it can see and project it onto those “Israeli racists”, or better to say: those “Jews of Israel”.

        For this ridiculous exercise of cruel hypocrisy there is nothing better than a pretty good laugh. Thanks, Latma.

        • What you perceive as alleged racism is in truth nothing but a satire on the pervasive hypocrisy displayed by both the Arab and Palestinian

          cough

        • jonah says:

          Good new year annie, cough cough.

        • speaking of new years , i read some tweets fireworks are going off in gaza tonight.
          !!!
          i hope they are having fun.

        • ToivoS says:

          When the oppressor ridicules an oppressed people that is racism, when the oppressed satirizes their oppressor then it is liberation humor. Think about Southern Whites trying to be funny ridiculing American blacks and compare that to some of the great black American comedians. Jonah you are on the wrong side of history. You are no longer an oppressed people, but a people’s oppressor. You can change. It is not necessary for you to go around looking to the rest of the civilized world as some, boorish intolerant oppressor — American Southern whites and South African whites have changed and so can you. It is is up to you.

      • MRW says:

        ToivoS, that’s because you’re an “Americakee.” ;-)

  26. munro says:

    new trailer from Sacha Baron Cohen and Larry Charles (Seinfeld)

    The Santa Fe audience I saw this trailer with was audibly disgusted. One cowboy looking guy said “That looks pretty racist.”

  27. marc b. says:

    excellent article, and, no, it’s not too long for the internet. imo the site could use more in-depth articles such as this and less breathless one-liners.

    a few points:
    1. i don’t consider the ‘entertainment’ provided by that mental case glick et al to simply be racist, but part of a program of provocation;
    2. provocation leads to conflict, which is a net benefit for those whose have adopted a theory of identity for jews which requires the existence of an ever present threat;
    3. i don’t necessarily believe that ‘anti-semitism’ is on the rise, as publicized. the ‘new’ anti-semitism model has been in the works for the past decades, the intent being to shield israel from criticism, foster an environment of fear and anguish in jewish communities, for immigration and other reasons. also it appears as if there has been a push for greater reporting of anti-semetic incidents, which taken together with the new definition of anti-semitism, and taken together with israel’s increasingly provocative acts and disdain for international law, has lead to a statistical increase in anti-semitism;
    4. i forget who this criticism should be directed at, but this mystical horse crap about race, ethnicity and crime, leaves much to be desired. just as often as not, the state moves to criminalize existing behaviors for purposes of social control. for example, after the US civil war southern states promulgated ‘vagrancy’ laws to help replace the loss of slave labor, putting black males into prison labor camps run by the state. similarly, ‘crack’ vs. powder cocaine laws resulted in increased ‘crime’ and incarceration rates among black males, curiously, as the need for the industrial labor in the US decreased.