Jesse Lieberfeld is a, a fake, b, about to be swallowed by a whale, c, the Jewish future

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Jonah in the whale from this site
Jonah image from this site

Yesterday we posted on Pittsburgh 11th-grader Jesse Lieberfeld’s MLK Day essay likening Israel to the segregated south and his determination to oppose Israelism within the Jewish community. The piece was a winner in Carnegie Mellon’s essay contest and was republished by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, praise the lord. Well, Elder of Ziyon is as het up about the piece as I am thrilled. The 170-odd comments on his post on Lieberfeld reflect the deep anxiety among Zionists over young American Jews’ defection from Israel.

With apologies to commenters for not using their handles, here are some of the choice responses to Lieberfeld at Elder’s site.

Elder, the answer isn’t to post this here, he will never see it.  I would suggest writing a response to the newspaper itself.  Looks like the kid knew he was in for a lot of condemnation, he made his social networking accounts private or deleted them entirely very recently because I was able to access a limited cached version of his Facebook account….

By the way, he goes to a better than thou iron gates private school, argueably the most prestigious in Pittsburgh. …

agreed. I have already sent a letter to the paper.

….This essay contest was actually sponsored by Carnegie Mellon University, if you click through all the links. The last link, which has a contact person, is here….

I’d love to hear the rabbi’s side of the story.  High school juniors don’t make up deluded radical political views off the top of their heads.  Somebody’s been feeding him anti-Israel, anti-Semitic propaganda, and my guess is that anybody who’s discussed this stuff with him–his rabbi, for instance–knows exactly who the culprit is…

The whole thing could be fake.  “Jesse” could be a committee of writers…

Why bother Elder.  This is just a Progressive Jew spouting the hatred taught in the Progressive Synagogues and schools.  His parents will be very proud of this self-hatred…

This is one kid, out of a million who have the opposite view.  His essay is meaningless, because he himself admits that he does not comprehend the conflict.  He certainly does not comprehend Arab culture, or Islam.  And the article could be fake….

I find it interesting that the Pittsburgh Post Gazette times constitutional tribune would choose an essay on Israel, Jews, and zionism for a reflection on………..Martin Luther King Day.  What the hell does one have to do with the other?  MLK was a freakin zionist….

The probability is very poor that you will reach him since only 41% of Jews in the US believe without a doubt that there is a God. Unless a fish finds him, chews on him and spits him out; the next opportunity to reach such a person is when they are at least 30 years of age….

Just wondering…. Subsitute Jewish with say Muslim, or American. Would they have printed on a kid from any other nationality rejecting his origins because of perceived misdeeds?…

Jewess: I’m having a very difficult time with the logic and sincerity in this letter.  It is really hard to imagine that an obviously intelligent and articulate  young writer form a Jewish home (where every holiday and tradition was forced on him) is unable to learn about Israel from his rabbi, his  parents, or on his own.  How could he fail to find the facts about Jewish history, Zionism and the modern state that is so richly available online or in a public library? How could he publicly divorce himself from his people in an essay that on one hand, begs for answers to his questions, but on the other, condemns Israel for murder without the missing information? J’accuse!…

I think its a fake … It sounds like what a non Jew imagines its like growing up in a Jewish house. But some of it rings very hollow.”the perfect society of Israel.”…

I did a Google search for “Jesse Lieberfeld” and I’ve rarely seen this many entries return … there are pages and pages and pages of sites carrying this story. This was a very damaging story on many levels and will be used over and over to vilify Israel and Jews.

I only found two entries that had nothing to do with this current story.

In 2008 as a seventh grader, he wrote a piece reviewing an art show that the Gazette published when he went to the Kentucky Avenue School, and a picture of a sign he took when he was in Dublin this summer. Its sounding more and more like a child of wealth who has little connection with Jews and Israel other then being born Jewish and given a Jewish sounding name and has used his “Jewishness” as a badge of legitimacy to bash – and bash he’s done

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  1. seafoid
    January 17, 2012, 12:04 pm

    Elder of ziyon is a settler. Settlers only do Torah. They don’t do reason. They need a Reformation! And a Renaissance !

  2. Cliff
    January 17, 2012, 12:16 pm

    Very quickly you see the deep-seated hatred Zionists have for people within ‘the Jewish tribe’ (their construct) who differ from them politically.

    These comments could have easily come from the racist, ex-IDF colonial soldier, eee.

    Notice how the begin mocking his education background and his supposed privilege – as if that is somehow a consideration into his views. How many Zionist intellectuals, politicians, businessman are filthy rich? Yet, the trolls in the comments section would never bring THEIR wealthy up.

    It’s a rendition of ‘How to make a case for Israel’ via JSF.

    When I read comments made by Zionist Jews, I think of a petty schoolyard argument with instigators hurling obscene curse-words and the like. Viewing it as a non-Jew and as an outsider to the parties of this conflict – I believe these people are schizophrenics. Very very upset, schizophrenics.

    • Citizen
      January 17, 2012, 1:12 pm

      Cliff, or you could say they are afflicted with Pre-Traumatic Stress Syndorome/Disorder, as Atzmon says. Read his book, The Wandering Who. Don’t worry, nobody will notice when you buy it.

    • yourstruly
      January 17, 2012, 10:56 pm

      the split is between israel-firster and human-firster jews. the former are ethno-supremacists, the latter believe in the equality of all peoples. the supremacists whose view until recently has dominated msm are in a panic mode because an opposing viewpoint is now being heard. yes, the truth does free us all, but it sure as hell disturb the liars.

  3. seafoid
    January 17, 2012, 12:34 pm

    link to guardian.co.uk

    “Antisemitic discourse is more acceptable now than at any time since the 1930s”
    What a joke . Compared to the 1940s ? And how many Jews are in Gitmo again ?

    • Citizen
      January 17, 2012, 1:14 pm

      How many Israel First Jews are in every crevice of all America’s most influential and powerful government orifices? Take a gander at Maher latest show on HBO, for starters.

  4. Les
    January 17, 2012, 12:35 pm

    At what point did the Israel in “Hear o hear Israel” become the state?

    • Citizen
      January 17, 2012, 1:21 pm

      As a very practical matter, when Dick and Jane sucked up the Kool-Aid in Scofield’s bible, with its Christian Zionist footnotes? OK, coupled with Jewish Zionist moneybags and the America’s institution of bribery aka political campaign finance system (recently inflated by SCOTUS ruling corporate cash equals free speech).

  5. chet
    January 17, 2012, 12:41 pm

    The last comment (paraphrasing) –

    “A non-authentic Jewish critic using his “Jewishness”…”

    What is an authentic Jewish critic?

  6. Hostage
    January 17, 2012, 1:45 pm

    The probability is very poor that you will reach him since only 41% of Jews in the US believe without a doubt that there is a God. Unless a fish finds him, chews on him and spits him out; the next opportunity to reach such a person is when they are at least 30 years of age….

    The problem with this rationale and the analogy is that even after the fish spit out Jonah, he was still displeased exceedingly, and grieved because the Lord was gracious and merciful to the people of Nineveh. After they were warned by Jonah, they had believed in God, donned sackcloth, repented of their evil way, and were spared.

    That wasn’t what Jonah had in mind. So he said take now my soul from me, for my death is better than my life. That same attitude crops up pretty frequently in the comments made by the regulars at the Elder of Ziyon about the prospect of living alongside the Palestinians.

  7. Orange Jewlius
    January 17, 2012, 1:55 pm

    Elder is an occupier. If he was smart, he would give up on his idea of reconquista and hand the land over to the rightful owners…..The children of allah.

    • MRW
      January 17, 2012, 8:55 pm

      Orange Jewlius,

      Ah, I remember those Orange Juliuses at 72nd and B’way. . . .

  8. Annie Robbins
    January 17, 2012, 3:45 pm

    i am not going to bother to go read the other comments there but from this small sampling the amount of denial seeping thru is very telling.

    these people need to listen to what is happening to the youth. the reason this did not happen to my generation is becaseu the truth was not so readily available. people reject ethnic cleansing. he is a moral person and he is following a sense of morality he was brought up with, which was..jewish. jesse can walk away from his religion or his identity as a jew but he won’t be leaving all of that behind. he is taking that which he holds dear and applying it today. this is the age where kids are idealistic, he is young. what he learns is ugly. but the lessons he has learned, growing up jewish are very much a part of his decision. one in which his family should be proud. they have raised a moral being.

    edit, i did just take the time to read the main post over there. not a bad response. at least he didn’t lay into the kid, smart.

    • Keith
      January 17, 2012, 6:09 pm

      ANNIE- “i am not going to bother to go read the other comments there but from this small sampling the amount of denial seeping thru is very telling.”

      Curious, my impression was that with a few name changes their comments would fit right in on Mondoweiss. Reasonably moderate in tone and logical within the framework of their Zionist ideology and mythology. It is what I refer to as the logic of irrationality, and it affects us all.

      I somewhat arbitrarily define rational as being consistent with observable reality, whereas, logical is consistent with relevant assumptions. Group dynamics necessitate the creation of a group ideology which, to bind the members together, must deviate from empirical reality so as to create an “us” versus “them” internal cohesion. All political groups employ an ideology which to varying degrees misrepresents reality. Membership in the group is contingent upon fealty to the professed ideology which in turn, is defended logically. The logical defense of ideology inevitably results in stated opinions which are demonstrably both ideologically logical and, at least to some degree, emperically irrational.

      The notion of a rational economic man or a rational political man is myth. Discussions, debates and arguments influenced by ideology are not so much an attempt at evaluating the rational truth, but a defense of personal/group ideology. Tightly knit groups such as settler/occupier Zionists will not be changed by rational argument which threatens their Zionist identity and group status. Looking at society as a whole, the natural inclination of elites to engage in deception to achieve their objectives means that society is, to a significant degree, a group of individuals united by fealty to fraudulent misrepresentations of reality. This is why propaganda and social myths are so effective in manufacturing consent, and why so much of what is occurring seems irrational.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 18, 2012, 8:24 am

        Discussions, debates and arguments influenced by ideology are not so much an attempt at evaluating the rational truth, but a defense of personal/group ideology.

        yes, i agree, you make some very good points. i was simply struck by the tendency of the commenters towards denial and perhaps i should clarify. it is normal when you disagree with someone to deny their conclusions are correct. i meant that they were denying it was his reality. but then i read the main post (note my edit) and curiously the elder didn’t do that. he didn’t agree with him but at least he started from the assumption jesse wasn’t being deceptive or there was anything wrong with him and he didn’t blame him and he acknowledged jesse was a moral person.

        that is what i am talking about. here is a young person speaking his reality very truthfully, so even if one were to disagree with his conclusions, the response of the commenters was to dismiss him. either call him a fake, attack the institution giving him the award, call him meaningless, question his sincerity, something about his wealthy family..all that is a form of ‘denial’ response which doesn’t approach attempting to reach or understand a person.

        but i didn’t read them all and as i mentioned it’s interesting the main post didn’t do that at all.

        jesse didn’t become the person he is by having his reality continually denied. tho he might have hit a wall wrt israel or his religion for the most part this is someone who was encouraged to expand and explore. he has a very healthy mind and he was nurtured.

        moreso than the other contestant who has traveled a rougher personal inner road and had to fend for herself.

  9. RoHa
    January 17, 2012, 7:57 pm

    (d) all of the above?

  10. thetumta
    January 18, 2012, 8:45 pm

    “By the way, he goes to a better than thou iron gates private school, argueably the most prestigious in Pittsburgh. …”.
    Well. there’s a Libertarian school voucher argument if I ever heard one? Could it be that simple?
    Hej!

    P.S. I hope He’s safe.

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