Obama begins push for Jewish support in 2012 by touting the ‘unbreakable bond’ between Israel and the US

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Still thinking of voting for Barack Obama? This video certainly serves as a useful compendium of the ways he has disappointed those who hoped he would bring “change” to US foreign policy. The JTA reports that David Axelrod “e-blasted” this video out today as Obama’s Jewish campaign began in earnest.

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  1. eljay
    January 20, 2012, 11:01 pm

    Bibi: “Hi, Mossad? Yeah, listen, hold off on that ithay on arackBay for now, would ya? Super. Thanks.”

  2. Dan Crowther
    January 20, 2012, 11:37 pm

    He’ll def win the Del Boca Vista vote…..

    • seafoid
      January 21, 2012, 3:54 pm

      Surprising that Bibi wasn’t on the clip. I didn’t see anyone from Shas either. Obama might have bent over for Israel but he only has the ears of the relatively normal people and Israel is run now by the extremists .

      • kalithea
        January 21, 2012, 9:19 pm

        What do you mean Yahu wasn’t on the clip? Of course he was on the clip with the “BADGE OF HONOR” crap.

  3. iamuglow
    January 21, 2012, 1:02 am

    “This video certainly serves as a useful compendium of the ways he has disappointed those who hoped he would bring “change” to US foreign policy. ”

    It does, doesn’t it? What a epic dissapointment he is.

    • seafoid
      January 21, 2012, 1:19 pm

      He’s a fraud. He speaks out of one side of his mouth to the Arabs and out of the other to the Jews

      Poor Sderot, to be situated beside such a concentration of non people.

      The Durban conf and the Goldstone report were both put down but the veto isn’t as good as the fact that the Zionist narrative is broken.

      And Union for Reform Judiasm and AIPAC and who says Israel isn’t a Jewish Diaspora problem ?

  4. Walid
    January 21, 2012, 1:38 am

    Nothing surprising here: Obama in this video is simply reciting the credo of American Presidents. In the same way Muslims declare “ashadu ʾan la ʾilaha ʾilla-Allah” and the majority of Christians declare the “I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth”, American Presidents have to declare their loyalty to Israel. It’s that or no presidency.

    • teta mother me
      January 21, 2012, 11:04 am

      I haven’t listened to the GOP campaign commercials (hi blood pressure).
      Do they still do the obligatory, “I am _______ & I approve this message?”

      Obama did NOT “approve” THIS message.

      Is Axelrod trying to box in Obama?
      or was this ad intended for limited circulation?

      • Philip Munger
        January 22, 2012, 12:39 am

        This is a typical promo, produced and sent out in contemporary media. I think the first one I saw like this was one a friend helped produce for Henry Jackson’s 1970 US Senate campaign. It was on 18mm or 35mm film. It had many of the same lines, or at least their 1970 versions.

    • radii
      January 22, 2012, 3:29 pm

      the “unbreakable bond” is the shackles israel has around the wrists and ankles of all US presidents

  5. Duscany
    January 21, 2012, 2:13 am

    American politicians are always talking about the unbreakable bonds, rock solid support and shared values of the US and Israel. Just once before I die I’d like to hear an American president (or Republican presidential candidate) talk about his unshakable support for the unemployed blue collar workers of western Pennsylvania. What is it with American politicians? The only time they every sound truly passionate is when they talk about Israel.

    • GalenSword
      January 21, 2012, 9:25 am

      If the question truly isn’t rhetorical, obviously American politicians are only passionate about receiving campaign contributions from the hyper-wealthy Zionist plutocracy.

      • RoHa
        January 21, 2012, 10:25 pm

        “American politicians are only passionate about receiving campaign contributions from the hyper-wealthy Zionist plutocracy.”

        And keeping that video off You Tube, and those photos out of the newspapers.

    • RoHa
      January 21, 2012, 10:27 pm

      But you do have an alternative to American politicians.

  6. Chaos4700
    January 21, 2012, 2:47 am

    Great. So now, when Israel does attack Iran, Obama will have absolutely no choice but to back the assault unconditionally, at least in public — and who cares what he thinks in private because it’s an election year and he’s got to keep up with the Republicans (except Ron Paul).

    We’re so screwed.

    • aiman
      January 21, 2012, 9:37 am

      “and who cares what he thinks in private because it’s an election year and he’s got to keep up with the Republicans”

      Not too sure if there is a difference between Obama’s public and private views unless he lives in a constant state of cognitive dissonance on fundamental questions of morality and humanity. It is possible to dilute one’s belief to win public approval or as a step toward reform but even if one grants Obama the benefit that he is a better man it only lingers as far as the thought for the truth would be that Obama lacks common decency and integrity which is the one and only qualification for corporate presidency. Chris Hedges said it best: Obama is a brand.

      • Chaos4700
        January 21, 2012, 10:45 am

        I said that for the benefit of the doubt. I’m with you on this… but there is a huge segment of people who voted for Obama who still believe he’s “crazy like a fox.” I just think he’s a sell-out.

  7. Citizen
    January 21, 2012, 3:17 am

    American Jewish newspaper honcho, Adler, in Atlanta lists three options to stop Iran, and one of them is for Mossad to murder Obama:


    • Walid
      January 21, 2012, 5:23 am

      In the US and Europe, freedom of speech lets you make fun of the pope, the Queen and even Jesus and Muhammad and in the US you can also openly talk about the obscenity of having a foreign country’s spy agency kill the President of the US. But you can’t say a word about Israel or the Jews in either of them even if it’s the truth. Odd concept of freedom.

      • Ellen
        January 21, 2012, 8:34 am

        “in the US you can also openly talk about the obscenity of having a foreign country’s spy agency kill the President of the US.”

        First of all the Atlanta Jewish newspaper owner did not “talk about” he called for the Mossad in the US to make a hit and murder the President.

        Incitement to murder anyone, let alone the President of the United States is a federal crime.

        That this author calls in the Israeli Mossad roaming around the US to murder the US President is beyond words…….

      • Walid
        January 21, 2012, 2:06 pm

        “First of all the Atlanta Jewish newspaper owner did not “talk about” he called for the Mossad in the US to make a hit and murder the President. ”

        Ellen, the guy did not call on the Mossad to kill anybody, as part of his useless chatter, he simply talked about the 3 options available to Israel to resolve its Iranian problem and one of the options involves having the Mossad kill the president. Even so, any American simply considering it as an option is obscene; the guy probably has a dual nationality and to even have dreamt up this treasonous and murderous option, it’s most likely an Israeli one.

      • American
        January 21, 2012, 11:33 pm

        Actually I think where he said …the Mossad “already embedded in the US” could assassinate Obama …..indicates he thinks it’s a nifty idea.

      • Chaos4700
        January 21, 2012, 10:47 am

        Actually, no, freedom of speech does not allow you to talk about assassinating the President of the US. If this man were anyone other than a prominent Jew in the media, he’d be in a federal interrogation room right now.

  8. seafoid
    January 21, 2012, 4:30 am

    When routine bites hard
    And ambitions are low
    And resentment rides high
    But emotions won’t grow
    And we’re changing our ways,
    Taking different roads
    Then love, love will tear us apart again

  9. Duscany
    January 21, 2012, 5:04 am

    What Adler is really saying is that unless the US quits blocking an attack on Iran, Israel will be backed into a corner where it might think it has no alternative than to do something truly crazy. To prevent that he wants the US to let Israel bomb whomever they feel they need to.

  10. ToivoS
    January 21, 2012, 5:26 am

    Damn Adam I wish you could have spared us this painful reminder. It is hard enough as it is to be a faithful Democrat.

  11. Richard Witty
    January 21, 2012, 6:12 am

    A reasoned and reasonable policy, presentation, c0mmitment.

    Any prospect of anyone endeavoring to remove Israel from the map (whatever meaning attributed) should be understood as impossible, so that more humane approaches are undertaken to reconcile.

    Assertion of human rights and community health, and resistance that includes terror on civilians are different actions.

    If you attempt to parade that clip as an example of some abusive or fundamentally compromised US foreign policy, you will fail.

    • Chaos4700
      January 21, 2012, 10:48 am

      A reasoned and reasonable policy, presentation, c0mmitment.

      Really? Assassinating the US President? Really?

    • Walid
      January 21, 2012, 2:19 pm

      “If you attempt to parade that clip as an example of some abusive or fundamentally compromised US foreign policy, you will fail.”

      It’s simply an example of sick Zionist mentality and manipulation; US foreign policy that has not been corrupted by Zionist or pro-Israeli influences has nothing to do with it.

    • American
      January 21, 2012, 3:42 pm

      “If you attempt to parade that clip as an example of some abusive or fundamentally compromised US foreign policy, you will fail.”…..witty

      I realize I am pissing in the wind telling you Richard that you have no foresight and that it comes from zionist narcissistic thinking.
      But some day, in an election or two, depending on how much faster US zionist and Israelis get even crazier in their aggression and louder about their power over the US, someone like this guy, a guy more reasonable and acceptable than the now popular Paul, is going to get elected President of the US on an America First demand.

      “I’m a US Senator. Not an Israeli Senator. I’m a U.S. Senator. I support Israel… But my first interest is, I take an oath to the constitution of the United States. Not to a president, not to a party, not to Israel.”…Sen. Chuck Hagel


      This will happen eventually. The ‘special relationship” with Israel will end and it will start being treated, step by step, as any other nation the US deals with. It would happen right now if someone like Hagel was in the race because the America First, in every sense, is the attitude of the majority of the public. All you see now in the current presidential race is the ‘fringe’ attitudes and candidates and because they are extreme fringes and have reached a critical position in politics, the majority reaction will eventually swing the pendulum the other way.

      What do you, as a zionist, and Israel plan to do then?

    • Charon
      January 22, 2012, 12:45 am

      You would only fail depending on the audience it is paraded to. The definition of terror is open to interpretation and does not take into account state-sponsored terror (US, Israel, anybody for that matter). You might not consider aggressive military retaliation (or preemptive action) as state-sponsored terror, but many opinions differ. Mass civilian casualties is terrorism no matter who the perpetrator is or how they try to spin it (including the US military). Not saying that resistance groups firing rockets at Israeli civilian targets is not terrorism, it most definitely is.

      There is solid evidence that threats to remove Israel from the map, when coming from Iran at least, were mistranslated and misinterpreted. From my research on I/P, if something is open to interpretation Israel often interprets it in the worst way possible. Unless they have psychic mind-reading abilities, this is dangerous policy when it involved preemptive war leading to the deaths of civilians (along with the associated risks which might include unaffordable gas or worse.. nuclear world war).

      My research has shown that 40% of Gaza’s population is 15-years-old or under. I do not agree with the ‘combat age’ rhetorical, these are kids. Kids should not have to suffer for the actions of a few. This is not reasonable. Not really related to the video either.

      Related to video and US/Israel, US policy toward Israel harms our image in the region and can (and has) led to the deaths of Americans. It is also a time and especially expensive (including our tax money) policy when there are more important things domestically that need to be addressed. Politicians and political candidates spend an unhealthy amount of time on Israel, a foreign country. Time that should be spent solving domestic issues. Israel is a big boy, they have modern and expensive weapons, and they have nukes. They also have a stable economy compared to the rest of the world (they do have problems too, but not as much affected).

      Rationally, I cannot see how an American considers this a reasonable policy.

    • john h
      January 22, 2012, 2:15 am

      more humane approaches are undertaken to reconcile.

      Richard, no one can reconcile the irreconcilable, and that includes you. That is what Zionism is, liberal or otherwise. It cannot reconcile itself with its own ‘Jewish and democratic’, let alone with anything other than itself, or with anyone other than its followers.

      That is why you have such contortions and what you say is so convoluted. You always tie yourself in knots, and whatever you say and whatever you explain, you will fail. It’s simply because you’re trying to win a losing game.

      Games are made to win or lose
      Will you play, that’s yours to choose
      But no one ever wins at a losing game

      If you’re gambling your life away
      Moment by moment, day by day
      You’re taking chances that are never gonna pay
      You’re the only one to blame
      You really oughta be ashamed
      ‘Cause no one ever wins at a losing game

      And, it’s a crying shame
      ‘Cause when you lose you’ve only got yourself to blame
      He’s tried to tell you so many times
      You turn your back and just close your mind
      And play the losing game
      Don’t be such a fool and play the losing game

      (Dallas Holm)

  12. rob
    January 21, 2012, 7:56 am

    I agree, I couldn’t watch but :58 seconds of it
    But thanks Adam, we do need to be reminded what’s going on out there

  13. seafoid
    January 21, 2012, 8:38 am

    An unbreakable bond. AAA rated by the moody .
    The US was downgraded this year. Bonds are only as good as the
    money behind them. Default is far more common than people think.

    Western Europe eventually turned on Constaninople. The most dangerous thing for an Israeli to believe is that history has ended.

  14. jonah
    January 21, 2012, 8:46 am

    It’s indicative to see how the (extreme) left and the (extreme) right are here united in condemning Obama’s support for the Jewish state of Israel as propaganda, each side for its own purposes.

    • Chaos4700
      January 21, 2012, 10:48 am

      So you don’t think that assassination of Obama is an extremist position, huh?

    • dahoit
      January 21, 2012, 12:27 pm

      No sir,we are just condemning the propaganda that placing Israels concerns ahead of ours, and is good for US,belied by the reality of our sinking position in this world as a nation to be trusted or emulated.
      And Obomba smart?Nah,just another poison ivy league product impressed with his own myth of expensive education as learning,probably picked up by US taxpayers in an ultimate irony,that we funded his idiocy.

    • seafoid
      January 21, 2012, 3:41 pm

      Anyone who uses the terms extreme and left alongside is a fruitcake.

  15. Ramzi Jaber
    January 21, 2012, 10:07 am

    AIPAC and zionist christians continue their domination and dictation of USA policies and politics on Palestine. I’m losing hope that the American people will ever wake up.

    We Palestinians must proceed with our path to statehood under the assumption that USA will NEVER do anything to help us but, on the contrary, they will so everything to stop us as they are under the TOTAL control of israel.

    1- Force a vote in UNSC even if we don’t have nine votes. We must know how is with us and who is not.
    2- Go for recognition as a non-member state in UNGA.
    3- Ensure membership in ICJ and ICC.
    4- Apply to all possible UN agencies.
    5- No Palestinians to work on any israeli project.
    6- No purchase of any israeli good or services.
    7- Diplomatic campaign for BDS globally supported by commitments of Arab governments as we can secure them
    8- Underlying all of the above, massive and continuous non-violent demonstrations in occupied Palestine.
    9- Also underlying all of the above, massive and continuous and COORDINATED non-violent demonstrations around Palestine… hundreds of thousands and even millions of people non-violently marching into occupied Palestine from all borders – Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and the Mediterranean.
    10- Further underlying all of the above, massive and continuous non-violent demonstrations by supporters in other countries including sit-ins and vigils in front of US and israeli embassies/consulates/missions.
    11- Arab League, led by Saudi Arabia, setting a final deadline for Israel to accept the Arab Peace Initiative where all Arabs and Moslem countries offered peace to israel in return of withdrawal to the pre-1967 border and establishing a Palestinian state. This initiative has gone unanswered by israel since 2002!!! The final deadline should be the 10th anniversary, March 27, 2012.
    12- Intense Palestinian diplomacy to secure commitments from Arab and pro-Palestinian oil-exporting countries to double the price of oil on any country that votes against the Palestinians in the UN or that does not take a fair, balanced, and just position on the resolution of the Palestine issue.

    (… and then I woke up …)

    • Blake
      January 21, 2012, 10:45 am

      Israel never even went to the Security Council to be ratified into law.

      • Ramzi Jaber
        January 21, 2012, 11:15 am

        Good point Blake, wasn’t aware of that.

    • ahadhaadam
      January 21, 2012, 11:36 am

      It sounds more like wishful thinking than an actual plan. I think most pragmatic people already realize that Israel will not withdraw to the 1967 borders and that the two state solution is dead.

      There is only one pragmatic solution that requires no uprooting of people, no negotiations, no grids, bypasses, security fences, etc. and that is the one state solution.

      As long as Palestinians like you set your sights on that mirage Palestinian Bantustan (and fragmented Bantustans are your best case scenario outcome), you will never make progress.

    • Walid
      January 21, 2012, 2:40 pm

      “12- Intense Palestinian diplomacy to secure commitments from Arab and pro-Palestinian oil-exporting countries to double the price of oil on any country …

      (… and then I woke up …)”

      There is no such thing as an Arab and pro-Palestinian oil exporting country, not even in your dreams. Haven’t you heard about Israel making preparations to start receiving LNG from an Arab country to offset the unreliable supply that it had been getting from Egypt?

      • seafoid
        January 21, 2012, 5:25 pm


    • Opti
      January 21, 2012, 9:30 pm

      I agree with some of your points, but thing #10 is the most promising (for immediate results). Finkelstein mentioned similar point as well, when he said that if Palestinians marched en masse with white flags to border-crossing points, kept marching, and video-taped the event, then Israel would be forced to make a very public opinion on
      a) shot the marchers
      b) let them walk — not gonna happen!

      Finkelstein said that after 100-1000 civilians had been killed the World could no longer sit by quietly and support Israel. [With Assad’s killing fields growing to 5000+, I am no longer sure whether this tactic would with as well as I hoped.]

      Your point #10 is similar to Finkelstein.

      • MLE
        January 23, 2012, 12:11 am

        It’s really sad that mass suicide is really the only way to draw attention to the issue.

        Also, Americans have weird ideas about border security. Some might get off on the idea of shooting non violent civilians attempting to cross a border, especially if those people are darker skinned and poor.

  16. Blake
    January 21, 2012, 10:11 am

    Now that was even more stomach churning than anything I could ever have imagined (even by his standards).

  17. Kathleen
    January 21, 2012, 11:15 am

    Netanyahu, Adelson, Aipac, Jinsa throwing Obama under the bus…they will be going with the Republican candidate…period. Axelrod blinded by the $$$ is ignoring that times have changed a divide drawn between so called progressive voters and Reps who are progressive on domestic issues and right wing radicals on foreign policy.

    This wedge issue is going to be hammered in harder than Axelrod Wasserman Schultz and Steve Israel can imagine.

    Adam/Phil/Mondo team. Adam Green of Not so Bold Progressives was on Washington Journal this morning. He was asked a question about Rep Pauls supporters in regard to foreign policy. Green exposed his progressive double standards when he said he could see how progressives could support Paul on much of his foreign policy stances but “less so” on Iran. Adam Green not a very bold progressive…in fact sounds like he is a hypocrite

    • seafoid
      January 21, 2012, 3:37 pm

      The republicans are in disarray though Kathleen. There is zero discipline in the party and it’s open fratricide between Romney and the anti romney who now seems to be Gingrich. They are like 2 gladiators . One will be dead and the other will be on political life support by the time the fight with the incumbent comes up.
      I think Obomba could win 65%

      • Blake
        January 21, 2012, 4:42 pm

        I was thinking the exact same thing. It’s almost as if the Zios chose these insane candidates to guarantee an Obama win. Ron Paul is about the only sane one and look how the lame stream media is smearing him.

      • Charon
        January 22, 2012, 1:01 am

        Don’t let the MSM rhetoric trick anybody into believe that Gingrich stands a chance. Gingrich and Santorum are not on the ballet for states worth 500 delegates. Don’t expect any write-in miracles either. Santorum might as well quit, there is no way he can win without a miracle. Gingrich’s success in SC is his only success thus far, and IMO quite suspicious (same with Santorum over Paul, even if this was SC).

        Ron Paul made it clear he is in it for the long haul today. In all likelihood, he is not going to do any worse than he did today. If that is the case, Gingrich would also need a miracle (and an unlikely mass write-in) to surpass Paul. Gingrich’s win took away Romney voters. It’s still early, but yeah this is disarray.

        Statistically, Paul is currently either in the lead and/or tied/near the lead in total delegates acquired at this point. Also statistically, Santorum should quit and Gingrich should consider it because he needs a miracle to win. This race, whether the MSM likes it or not or whether certain people are willing to accept, is between Romney and Paul. Don’t drink the MSM kool aid, never drink the MSM kool aid. I think Romney will win the primary and Paul will run as a third party (even though he says he won’t). If Obama wins re-election he will win with a minority (no pun intended) vote just like Clinton did in ’92. Except if the internet was around back then, things would have different.

      • MHughes976
        January 22, 2012, 8:43 am

        I was quite pleased to read what you say. I had read on BBC teletext around 8 am our time that Gingrich won ‘convincingly’ and that the Republican winner in SC has always gone on to win the nomination. My whole morning was ruined.

      • kalithea
        January 22, 2012, 9:49 pm

        Don’t count on Ron Paul to run in a Third Pary. He has to consider how it might affect his son’s political future. It’s very risky for him if his chances of winning with a Third Party are limited. However, I believe he’s so commited to changing the direction of the country that it will be very difficult for him to give up on his cause.

        So for those who don’t want Ron Paul to disappear from the political map…SUPPORT HIM NOW!

    • Citizen
      January 21, 2012, 5:31 pm

      Kathleen, yes, I tend to agree with you here. I saw Green and hear him say that on WJ this morning too, and I went to his organization’s web site–very little there on foreign policy, nothing about Israel. His bio shows he came from MoveON.org, if memory serves.

  18. Kathleen
    January 21, 2012, 11:18 am

    Axelrod proving once again Israel can kick this nation in the cajones like no other ( pose as CIA and hireterrorist to kill Iranian scientist , continue to defy international agreements, Un resolutions) and Obama will still kiss their asses. Does Axelrod want OBama to lose this time around

  19. American
    January 21, 2012, 3:01 pm

    Standard pander crapola. Go read some of our dear leaders speeches to AIPAC, they are as bad and will make your skin crawl.

    This is the usual going after Pro Israel Jewish donations and heavily Jewish swing states like Florida. Another result of political corruption of money in politics and the electoral college instead of direct popular vote.

    Israel is just the most glaring and dangerous example because it shows the totally insane, never seen before in any other nation in the world, acknowledgement, acceptance and stamp of approval on some voters loyalty to a foreign state and US leaders that are literally willing to sacrifice US interest for political advantage.

    This is the FUNDEMENTAL rot in our entire political system.
    It literally is a cancer that is eating up the US one organ at a time.

    Every time I think about how democracy has become a “industry of it’s own” and a ‘political machine’ like a mindless shark that does nothing but swim and eat to sustain it’s own self, I consider Jefferson’s and Kennedy’s statements about the inevitability of bloody revolution when no other course is left to people.

  20. optimax
    January 21, 2012, 3:41 pm

    The US and Israel are to prisoners chained together, brothers in crime.
    I can’t watch the video. I don’t care about Israel and what the US has become sickens me.

    • Charon
      January 22, 2012, 1:21 am

      I personally don’t care for US leaders, but I care about my fellow Americans. Even if they are biased and brainwashed or asleep at the wheel. It bothers me, but they are still my fellow Americans and I still like my country. I realize my country has demons in it’s past in terms of genocide, but I had nothing to do with that. There are some in Israel who can say the same thing, the difference is there are some in Israel who are responsible for Palestinian genocide since this is recent history. I don’t expect Israel to disappear off the map. I haven’t exactly seen any sort of extended hand for show of friendship though.

      I recall Rabin extending his hand to Arafat in what was likely a forced event, but at least it was a start. Unfortunately for Rabin, the people spoke and they didn’t like where it was going. He wasn’t a saint by any means, but he went farther than any other Israeli leader and look what happened.

    • kalithea
      January 22, 2012, 9:54 pm

      Let me tell you, I watched the video and it angered, disgusted and outraged me the same way the video of the marines urinating on the deceased Taliban’s faces did.

  21. DICKERSON3870
    January 21, 2012, 5:02 pm

    RE: “Still thinking of voting for Barack Obama? This video certainly serves as a useful compendium of the ways he has disappointed those who hoped he would bring “change” to US foreign policy.” ~ Adam H.

    MY COMMENT: Because I like to “leverage” my vote, I plan on voting for Ron Paul in the Republican presidential primary here in Georgia on “super Tuesday” (in March). I will be voting by mail so that I do not have to endure the humiliation of publicly requesting a Republican ballot at the polling place. Needless to say, we have “open” primaries.
    I anticipate voting for Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party or Jill Stein of the Green Party in November.

    Interview with Rocky Anderson; Justice Party Presidential Primary Candidate, by Rob Kall, Op-Ed News, 01/18/12
    TRANSCRIPT – http://www.opednews.com/articles/Interview-with-Rocky-Ander-by-Rob-Kall-120118-498.html
    AUDIO – http://www.opednews.com/Podcast/Rocky-Anderson-Justice-Pa-by-Rob-Kall-120104-455.html

    ROCKIN’ WITH ROCKYhttps://www.voterocky.org/home

    Matt Rothschild interviews Jill Stein
    AUDIO – http://www.progressive.org/dr_jill_stein_interview_audio.html
    Peter B. Collins interviews Jill Stein
    AUDIO ($5/mo registration) – http://peterbcollins.com/2011/12/22/progressives-have-a-choice-meet-jill-stein-green-party-presidential-candidate/

    JILL STEIN FOR PRESIDENThttp://www.jillstein.org/

  22. seafoid
    January 21, 2012, 5:36 pm

    Paul is the only candidate who faces up to the reality of US decline. Someone I read recently said he’s like the Republican party 60 years ago before it got hijacked.
    I think in 4 years the decline will be more obvious and his sort of thinking will get a better hearing.


    “Paul owes his appeal in the libertarian wing of his party to the high proportion of candid statements about US war policy and the national security state that he has made over the past decade. In addressing such issues, he has no rival among Republicans, and, after the death of Robert Byrd and the defeat of Russ Feingold, none among Democrats of national stature. On issues of national security and war, he is the American politician who speaks to Americans as if they were grownups interested in their own condition, and as if the Constitution might have a direct bearing on our laws and conduct.”

    Phyllis Bennis reminds me of the Progressive editorials from 2000 saying everyone should have voted Gore. The good Democrat guys were all corrupt and it fed with all of the other dysfunction into a broken system.

    • thetumta
      January 21, 2012, 11:27 pm

      You think we have 4 years? Love to hear more about that theory. Perhaps I could retire. The Demo/Republican printing press is just trying to get to the election before the sheep realize how badly they’ve been sheared and the XXXX hits the fan. Yes, there will be Federal troops on the the street, first time since the 1860 Civil War. Perhaps you’ll send them an email?

    • kalithea
      January 22, 2012, 12:22 am

      Russ Feingold is a ZIONIST. I’m glad he lost!

      • seafoid
        January 22, 2012, 5:51 am

        In the big picture Zionism is a sideshow. Riding on the coat tails of US imperialism. Take away that $3bn a year and the veto and what is Israel? All fur coat and no knickers.

    • Shingo
      January 22, 2012, 7:15 am

      Well said Seafoid,

      What I noticed from the likes of Bennis and even Lizzy, is that they have set standards for Paul that they don’t apply to Obama. Obama is supposed to be an expert of civil liberies, yet has continued violating them the way Bush did but getsa pass from the left anyway. He promised to end wars, but cninued them and started new ones along the way. In just about every area, he has either failed or disappointed.

      Meanwhile, Bennis is not even content with Paul being anti war because he didn’t arrive at the anti war position from the same angle as her.

      • ritzl
        January 22, 2012, 7:22 pm

        Agree Shingo. Seafoid is being particularly pithy in this thread (and I mean that sincerely). The “end of history” comment above was particularly cogent (even for seafoid, and assuming it too referred to the fleeting nature of political alliances and empire).

  23. kalithea
    January 21, 2012, 8:38 pm

    “Still thinking of voting for Barack Obama? This video certainly serves as a useful compendium of the ways he has disappointed those who hoped he would bring “change” to US foreign policy.”

    I HAVE NO PITYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY FOR YOU! You and others who write articles on this site have done nothing but nit and pick at Ron Paul over and over! You are responsible for the rise of GINGRICH. Well I hope you’re satisfied!! It looks like this is going to be a contest between Gingrich “I will INVENT anything and bomb anyone on behalf of the Jewish people” and Obama: I love Israel, I love Israel BELIEVE ME; I’LL PROVE IT, more vetos for Israel, more war for Israel, more hostility with Iran, ZEEERO for the Palestinians!!

    We had a chance to give Ron Paul a major bump and send Obama a real message but noooooooh, YOU WANT MORE OF THE SAME: Drone wars in Pakistan, covert crap in Iran, continuing civilian casualties in Afghanistan, more hostility and potential war with Iran, NO FREEDOM FOR PALESTINIANS, MORE OPPRESSION, MORE INJUSTICE, MORE APARTHEID. MORE, MORE, MORE SHIT!

    Cry in that soup!!

    • Annie Robbins
      January 22, 2012, 4:37 am

      You and others who write articles on this site have done nothing but nit and pick at Ron Paul over and over!

      well that’s very instructive.

      • kalithea
        January 22, 2012, 11:27 am

        The TRUTH is always instructive. And I dare you to prove it is otherwise.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 22, 2012, 12:32 pm

        i think the burden is on you kalithea. i write for this site.

        happy hunting


      • kalithea
        January 22, 2012, 10:33 pm

        I know you write for this site. Bully for you; I’m not sure how that’s relevant to my point, or are you trying to make a different point or pull some kind of rank? I’ve read some of your articles. But on this issue you seem to be defending the indefensible.

        Burden, what burden? I think I’ve proven my point thank you very much: Those who trashed Ron Paul have zeeero in the way of a game-changing solution. Certainly not Obama! And so they’ll hold their nose and vote for him anyway, no matter how detrimental it will be to the Palestinian cause and even while witnessing this piece of political smut and the bloody legacy he’s accumulating.

        I think I have a right to question someone’s authenticity and conviction based on this inconsistency, obtuse bias and glaring lapse in judgement, and I have a right to probe what lies at the root of it.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 23, 2012, 12:05 am

        I think I have a right to question someone’s authenticity and conviction based on this inconsistency, obtuse bias and glaring lapse in judgement, and I have a right to probe what lies at the root of it.

        let’s not move the goal posts kalithea. this is not about your right to question. you made several definitive statements. i’m just asking you to back up one of them.

        first off phil and adam have written post after post about ron paul. affording you and other reams of bandwidth to express yourself, which apparently means nothing to you. many of them applauding his candidacy btw

        you have contributed to no less than 79 comments on these threads (these are only the ones you have included the full name of ron paul)


        and here you are b*tching about the site. poor you. so let’s not mince words here, this is not about your ‘rights’ because (news to you) this site is not a democracy. iow what you perceive as your ‘rights’ can literally disappear any time at the whim of your hosts. the same hosts who have afforded discussion after discussion about paul’s candidacy. many of them not negative in the least.



        MW has also hosted contributors “Ron Paul’s foreign policy should be embraced”


        all told MW has hosted over a dozen posts highlighting ron paul and the moderators have read and passed way over a thousand comments.

        but that’s all not even the point. we actually do more here than ron paul commentary (you may not have noticed).

        so it was you who claimed:

        You and others who write articles on this site have done nothing but nit and pick at Ron Paul over and over!

        nuthin eh? iow…nothing.

        i think you should do a walk back. in fact i would recommend it highly. as i mentioned previously, this is not a democracy.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 23, 2012, 12:36 am

        ps, while your busy constructing how to avoid your walk back you might also consider i could have asked you to find evidence for this:

        But on this issue you seem to be defending the indefensible.

        perhaps listening is not your specialty.

  24. Duscany
    January 21, 2012, 9:13 pm

    I know that the reason politicians kowtow is for the money. But surely they must know that millions of ordinary Americans (often unemployed and living in rust belt cities) watch these teary-eyed profusions of eternal love and support for Israel and ask themselves “Whose side are these guys on anyway?” But yet the politicians go ahead and do it anyway.

    If I were a politician and I needed Israel Firster money for my reelection, I would give a speech in which I mentioned about five times how hard I was going to work to improve the lot of ordinary Americans. Then I would say whatever I had to say to get the Israel Firster money. Then I would conclude my speech making another five or six mentions of how hard I would be working to improve the lot of ordinary Americans. The one thing I wouldn’t do is repeatedly profess my love for Israel without mentioning any comparable feelings about America.

  25. kalithea
    January 22, 2012, 12:23 am

    Are you trying to break a record for the longest moderation?

  26. Charon
    January 22, 2012, 1:11 am

    “I and my administration have made the security of Israel* a priority”

    *Israel – Sovereign nation state which declared independence in 1948 recognized by the majority of the world; Jacob;the ‘children of Israel’ which could refer to all adherents of Abrahamic faiths including not only Judaism but also Christianity; the land of Israel whose borders are up to debate and could mean the entire planet; Israel Kamakawiwo’ole a Hawaiian Singer

    I personally don’t have much faith in the system, but if the forces of good are playing the game under the surface, the US unbreakable bond with Israel is open to interpretation. Israel interprets UN resolutions and peace agreements just like corrupt lawyers do to service contracts. No reason to believe we shouldn’t return the favor besides the whole hijacking our foreign policy thing. Committed to Israel also doesn’t mean committed to Likudite leaders who lead their nation on a suicide course of de-legitimacy. IMO, the strongest force against Israel’s right to exist is the Israeli leaders who keep repeating the existential threat rhetoric. If you repeat a lie enough, people start to believe it.

    • seafoid
      January 22, 2012, 7:28 am

      “I and my administration have made the security of Israel a priority”

      So much for Jewish self determination. Why didn’t they pick somewhere they could defend on their own for their state?

      Marks out of 10 for choosing a colonial site – 1

  27. kalithea
    January 22, 2012, 4:07 am

    YOU wrote an article putting down Ron Paul expressing doubt as to whether he would have any effect on the Palestinian cause, and I took serious issue with it and called it disingenuous. Not only are you disingenuous in regards to Ron Paul, but you can’t even do the research before you put him down and as I can see by your whining about Obama, you have nothing better to offer!:

    Ron Paul was speaking these words while President-elect Obama remained silent on the slaughter occurring in Gaza, deferring to Bush instead!

    And Ron Paul voted against the Resolution condemning the Goldstone Report!

    And he has stated repeatedly he would cut funding which would essentially cripple Israel’s military oppression against Palestinians. No President has dared to make this move.

  28. Ellen
    January 22, 2012, 9:19 am

    Every time I see Obama put his arm onto the shoulders of others he is speaking with, it gives me a sick feeling. It is an inappropriate and condescending gesture.

    I could not watch the sickening video of Obama pandering to any group, let along his pandering to American voters who confuse Israel with their personal identity.

    But this Obama tic of putting his hands on the shoulders of others is revolting. Can’t his handlers re-train him?

    • kalithea
      January 22, 2012, 12:38 pm

      “Every time I see Obama put his arm onto the shoulders of others he is speaking with, it gives me a sick feeling. It is an inappropriate and condescending gesture.”

      You noticed? A hand gesture like that to someone like Netanyahu is like a backhand at the rest of us and no doubt insulting, and this spectacle of familiarity and his slobbering at the altar of Zionism, which is what he did at Aipac and in this video, is the ticket to the seat of power in America. Everyone should define this twisted alliance as the enemy of freedom, not only for us, but for the Palestinians and other people victims of this parasitical nexus.

      Had people listened less to Obama’s lofty speeches and took more note of his body language; they would have spotted a con job in the making; like when he figuratively pushed away the mike in disdain when cornered to make a statement on the slaughter in Gaza.

      Only his passion for getting the prize made him sound genuine. He worked the fast-track to power with very little authenticity and experience but real slick salesmanship to compensate, something his handlers could bank on from the get-go. His rise to power was like a Hollywood production and instead of the Nobel prize he deserved an Oscar for his convincing performance.

  29. Bumblebye
    January 22, 2012, 9:47 am

    Unbreakable bond?
    But no one wants to meet Avigdor Lieberman!
    Max Blumenthal on Lieberman’s visit to Washington, and the lack of any admin officials who want to meet with him. At all. Deliciously funny.

    Damnit, the link won’t work, but there’s nothing wrong with it!

  30. yourstruly
    January 22, 2012, 12:28 pm

    who are you, mr. president?

    a sand dune
    at the mercy of the wind
    with no will of its own
    the pretense of taking a stand
    master of mirages
    is that what you are

  31. Pamela Olson
    January 22, 2012, 12:55 pm

    Sorry to go off topic, but FYI, you can get a free Kindle copy of Fast Times in Palestine today only (Sunday, Jan 22): http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00513NHNI

    • tree
      January 22, 2012, 11:54 pm

      Thanks Pamela. I just took advantage, although I felt a little guilty about it. Maybe I just should have popped for the regular cost. Sorry.

      • Pamela Olson
        January 24, 2012, 1:48 pm

        No worries, I was just trying to get it into people’s hands, so I’m glad you did. I hope you’ll enjoy it! If you really want to, you can pay me back with a review on Amazon or another site :)

  32. Citizen
    January 22, 2012, 12:56 pm

    The Likud Israel regime has just recently, and once again, let the American Obama know just how much it cares about the USA:
    Israel will inform the US only 12 hours prior to an attack on Iran (Hebrew) http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART2/329/028.html?hp=1&cat=875

    I’m sure the US General whom Obama sent there is really happy about this message.

  33. DICKERSON3870
    January 22, 2012, 3:37 pm

    RE: “Still thinking of voting for Barack Obama? This video certainly serves as a useful compendium of the ways he has disappointed those who hoped he would bring ‘change’ to US foreign policy.” ~ Adam H.

    ALSO SEE: Obama’s campaign video is ‘Israel firster’ material, by Mairav Zonszein, +972 Magazine, 01/22/12

    (excerpt) As part of its bid to counter Republican attacks on its “pro-Israel” record, the Obama Administration has publicized its first campaign video directly addressing its treatment of Israel entitled: “America and Israel: An Unbreakable Bond.”
    The fact that the Obama Administration feels it must recruit the Prime Minister, Defense Minister and Israeli Ambassador — all of whom are responsible for the continued policy of discrimination, occupation, inequality and deceitful rhetoric that directly contradict stated American positions — to vouch for him is nauseating and infuriating. . .

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://972mag.com/obamas-campaign-video-is-israel-firster-material/33621/

  34. Justice Please
    January 22, 2012, 7:56 pm

    I hope Jesse Lieberfeld has a lot of smart friends who are not falling for this bullshit. I hope they vote for the candidate which best serves them and their fellow US citizens, and not for the candidate who best serves Israeli supremacist extremists.

  35. dbroncos
    January 23, 2012, 8:35 am

    Ca-ching! The peace prize winner isn’t concerned about his legacy.

  36. Citizen
    January 23, 2012, 10:30 am

    Obama stood before the UN and gave his measured teleprompting speech outlining the Jewish case for Israel’s conduct–he did not once concede one iota of recognition of the other side of the story, the Palestinian people’s plight and cause–to cement his own career and family life-style, he said: “The Palestinian people are chopped liver.”

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