Steve Rothman spins Danish cyclist attack as propaganda coup

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An aide to New Jersey congressman Steve Rothman, who is in a redistricted-primary fight for his political life, tweeted the following yesterday: 

Imagine another ME country doing this? RT@nytimesworld: Israeli Officer Who Struck Protester Is Dismissed

Something tells me this Congressional aide won’t be tweeting this story by Yossi Gurvitz yesterday:

Undercover IDF soldier kills Palestinian in drill, goes unpunished 

Two weeks ago, undercover IDF soldiers carrying out a drill in a Palestinian village in the West Bank killed a resident after several mistook them for burglars and attacked them. Israeli press buried the real story: The fact that the IDF used Palestinians as drill props – and killed one. 

…a team of armed Duvdevan [counterterrorist] soldiers (who wander around dressed as Palestinians, not in uniform and without obvious weaponry) decided to hold an infiltration practice drill in a Palestinian village. …[T]he villagers – who suffered recently from a wave of burglaries – took them for burglars, and attacked them with cold weapons, wounding one. The gunmen returned fire, wounding two of the people who were trying to defend their home and property. One of them later died of his wounds. The other was kicked in the face while handcuffed.

Thanks to Percy Sykes

24 Responses

  1. seafoid
    April 19, 2012, 9:22 am

    There comes a time in the life cycle of every oppressive regime that the spokespeople get nutmegged by events and are left floundering with a thin cloth of ideology that fails to cover up the sudden nudity. And they look stupid and everyone gets it.

    And Israel edges ever closer to the point of total hasbara failure.

    Here’s Israel Harel. Just another cheap ziobot ideologue. How come he still has a column?

    link to haaretz.com

  2. Woody Tanaka
    April 19, 2012, 9:56 am

    Frankly, these Israel firsters and the fifth-column traitors who vote for them (and New Jersey seems especially lousy with these people), really should stop calling themselves Americans.

    • CloakAndDagger
      April 19, 2012, 10:52 am

      should stop calling themselves Americans

      I certainly stopped calling them Americans a long time ago.

  3. Bumblebye
    April 19, 2012, 10:11 am

    I thought Eisner was suspended from front-line duties and confined to a desk for two years? Certainly not dismissed.
    And the fellow who kicked the handcuffed prisoner was dismissed, though not the murderer – no consequences for him.
    Israel is certifiably insane.

    • BillM
      April 19, 2012, 1:09 pm

      Few people seem to be picking up that fact. Eisner was effectively denied a plum promotion he was expecting, but his career isn’t ended. Serving time as a staff officer is part of the normal career path for a senior officer.

  4. seafoid
    April 19, 2012, 10:16 am

    I just had a word with my Israeli colleague about something work related but I was thinking how sad it will be for him and the rest of his compatriots when it all falls apart because of the settlers and an incompetent political “elite”. That nobody ever stood up to. There is something very Jewish with deep undertones of Yiddishkeit about the unfolding mess.

  5. pabelmont
    April 19, 2012, 10:27 am

    Bumblebye: Eisner was a high-ranking officer and should know the limits of the use of power, and should teach it to his underlings. Since he made this attack, it may be assumed he did it with the knowledge and approval of his own superiors. Look at the video: he carried his gun not as a weapon for shooting but as a metallic object (with very sharp projecting edges) for smashing people with. It was preplanned or at least prepared, practiced, not the first time, SOP (standard operating procedure). I bet no soldier on the scene was surprised before or after the incident.

    Israel certifiably insane? Don’t know. Sociopathic (in terms at least of non-Israeli-Jewish society), sure. Completely unconcerned with law or ethics w.r.t. non-Israeli-Jews, sure. Acting to produce enemies as fast as possible and then bemoaning the fact that they are surrounded by enemies — you betcha. Insane? What’s that mean?

  6. Annie Robbins
    April 19, 2012, 10:39 am

    the IDF used Palestinians as drill props – and killed one.

    disgusting

    • Sumud
      April 19, 2012, 10:47 am

      Disgusting, but not surprising.

      Recall Israel’s private military contractors such as Rafael using the captive population in Gaza to test their weapons systems – by killing Palestinians. It’s sick. Mengele sick.

      • seafoid
        April 19, 2012, 12:17 pm

        Zionism is a cult that places Judaism ahead of the rest of humanity
        You can’t run an apartheid system any other way. The chosen schtick gets used in a very cynical way. And the education system is built around emphasising to Israelis that the state is for them and not for non Jews. So is YESHA. It’s a real mess.

        So much of the Zionist conversation around the Palestinians is dog whistling and making sure nobody steps out of line. The ideology is very well marshalled. There is virtually no leakage in Israel.
        When is an Israeli band going to produce something to match Alternative Ulster ?

        In such a framework the Palestinians are essentially regarded as vermin and what Eisner did to enforce the status quo was correct. Why should any foreigners interest themselves with vermin ?

        It’s very like the Indian caste system. Why bother treating the Dalits well? Who gives a sh%t about Dalits?

        The problem for all this institutionalised bigotry is video. You just can’t sell this stuff to the West. Nobody wants to know about it .

        And once the foreigners figure it out the ideology can’t explain itself. Because it is not rational.

      • Sumud
        April 19, 2012, 9:06 pm

        The problem for all this institutionalised bigotry is video. You just can’t sell this stuff to the West. Nobody wants to know about it .

        And once the foreigners figure it out the ideology can’t explain itself. Because it is not rational.

        Hence the batshit crazy things zionists say to justify what Israel is doing. I guess one of our challenges is to make it clear that a “jewish state” is no better in practice that a White Australia or an apartheid South Africa. It remains to be seen if it will get as bad as Germany in WW2 – signs are not good though.

        A “jewish state” would be different if Israel had occurred historically – a nation or region with a predominately jewish population that felt secure in it’s identity and treated it’s minorities with respect. But Israel is an artificial construct on stolen land with an already large non-jewish population.

        It is inevitably going to fail – as is. The logic for a single-state post-colonial Israel/Palestine really is overwhelming.

      • seafoid
        April 20, 2012, 3:59 am

        If it wasn’t a Jewish state it probably would have collapsed by now. The Jewish angle gives it a longer timespan. But the apartheid will bring the whole thing down anyway regardless of the Jewish angle.

  7. eljay
    April 19, 2012, 11:10 am

    >> Two weeks ago, undercover IDF soldiers carrying out a drill in a Palestinian village in the West Bank killed a resident after several mistook them for burglars and attacked them.

    1. No camera, no propaganda coup. Those Palestinians got it all wrong. Better luck next time… :-(
    2. Even though the members of the Jewish State Terrorist Forces were operating outside of the Jewish state‘s 1948 1967 borders, only anti-Semites would mistake them for burglars. Anyone else would have immediately identified them as benevolent members of the Most Moral Army in the World.

  8. piotr
    April 19, 2012, 12:32 pm

    If we were to believe Col. Eisner, he thoroughly bungled his mission.

    First, collecting proper equipment for the mission. The war of ideas rages, and the batteries in the video recorder go dead? And the important moments of protesters’ brutality, the “stick attack” remains unrecorded. Some could even conjecture that Col. Eisner injured himself which is pretty easy if you swing a heavy metal piece.

    Second, disposition of forces. Apparently, “stick attack” reached the very command of the mission, catching him unaware from behind. If you have 15 soldiers, you should be able to position them in a way to prevent that from happening. And what if the attacker render the commanding officer senseless, and his soldiers, command-less orphans?

    Third, martial skills. Perhaps secondary if your style is to command from behind the lines, but this is not the case here. Again, the outcome of the “stick” attack does not show Col. Eisner in good light.

    Fourth, securing the evidence. Where are the sticks? IDF is also a legal authority in the West Bank, so it should also attend to normal police tasks, like securing the evidence of crimes committed against IDF. In a case of a trial, I can bet that terrorist will claim that there were to sticks and offer various uncharitable speculations. E.g. Eisner could hit his locker door (or something similar) in rage.

  9. Fredblogs
    April 19, 2012, 3:01 pm

    You don’t punish a soldier for defending his own life. Even if the reason he had to defend his own life was someone else’s stupid orders. Where were the soldiers when they were attacked? If they were sneaking into someone’s home, then an attack would be justified, if the home owner feared for his life. If they were sneaking into town, but not someone’s home, then the use of potentially deadly force by the residents would not be justified.

    • Shingo
      April 19, 2012, 4:29 pm

      You don’t punish a soldier for defending his own life

      No IDF soldier is therevtobdefend his own life anymore than a burglar is there to defend us after a home invasion. The soldiers are on someone else’s land, and their very presence on that territory constitutes an actor agression, so one could never argue that they are being attacked.

    • Bumblebye
      April 19, 2012, 4:49 pm

      What’s between your ears Fredfrog? This was an EXERCISE carried out against REAL people who were NOT aware of it. NORMAL forces would use either cardboard cutouts or teams of their own men WITHOUT live ammo, and not in a residential area. You are a sick tadpole.

      • Fredblogs
        April 19, 2012, 10:03 pm

        And the person who ordered the exercise should probably be charged with reckless disregard homicide for ordering it (assuming Israel has that charge). The guy who kicked a prisoner was punished, as he should have been, but even when the other guy thinks he has a right to attack, no country is going to criminally charge a cop or a soldier in the performance of his duties if someone tries to kill him and he fights back.

    • Talkback
      April 19, 2012, 6:31 pm

      Fredblogs,

      you know that people under occupation have every right to attack the occupying force and that an occupation is an ongoing aggression and denial of self determination and not a defence, don’t you?

      I would advise you to think before you write and ask yourself, if you don’t inderectly whitewash crimes of other famous occupying forces with your violence apologetics.

      • Fredblogs
        April 19, 2012, 10:09 pm

        Yeah, they have that “right” but only to the same sense that a soldier has the “right” to shoot at an enemy soldier. He has the right to try to kill the guy, but the other guy has the right to try right back.

        Occupation or not, once you take up arms, you lose the protection afforded to civilians by international law.

        Misunderstanding what is meant by “a right to fight occupation” is common around here. It doesn’t include a right to attack civilians, fight without insignia distinguishing you from the general population, or otherwise break the laws of war. There’s a reason captured soldiers have protection, but captured spies can be charged with crimes.

      • Talkback
        April 20, 2012, 8:25 am

        “Misunderstanding what is meant by “a right to fight occupation” is common around here. It doesn’t include a right to attack civilians, fight without insignia distinguishing you from the general population, or otherwise break the laws of war.”

        You can fight without insignia without breaking the law. You’re just not protected as a combatant , if you do so.

        But this is not relevant, because Israel doesn’t even recognise the applicability of the Geneva Conventions and breaks every law there is on a daily basis. For further information read the Nuremberg trials, e.g. “Germanization of occupied territories.”

    • piotr
      April 20, 2012, 9:48 am

      As I explained above, soldiers are supposed to defend their lives (unless on a suicidal mission, which is not typical) and it is exactly in THAT department where Col. Eisner was deficient. We are talking about a military mission that was nearly crippled by an ambush with sticks.

      On the video, Col. Eisner and his troops show no signs of worry about their self preservation. Some are loading bikes to vans, looking quite relaxed, some stare (as they should, observe the opponent!), then Eisner traipses into the midst of the protesters WHOM HE ALREADY KNOWS TO BE DANGEROUS, exposes his back and slams one of them after a careful look at his face.

      Dangerous crowd has to be approach using a phalanx so no backs are exposed. Perhaps Eisner thought that the crowd was harmless? Or he did not think at all and that was his lucky day — nobody bashed his head or stabbed him.

    • Woody Tanaka
      April 20, 2012, 6:36 pm

      “You don’t punish a soldier for defending his own life. Even if the reason he had to defend his own life was someone else’s stupid orders.”

      This was a clearly illegal order as no one in his right mind would suggest that it is legal to raid a civilian villiage with live weapons as a “drill.” As such, he was obligated to refuse to participate. Since he did not refuse and someone died, everyone who was in the raid and everyone who was involved in planning and ordered it are guilty of various degrees of homocide and all should spend the rest of thier lives behind bars.

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