The new landscape: big media cover former Palestinian P.M.’s obit for two-state solution

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Former Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia looks on during an interview with the Associated Press in his office in Abu Dis, near Jerusalem. (AP Photo/Sebastian Scheiner)

The Washington Post, Fox News, NPR and a whole slew of other news sources are carrying this AP article quoting former Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia as saying the two state solution is dead. Well not exactly; but he said Israel killed it. So I guess that means it’s dead. He also said:  “One state”  

With gloom deepening over prospects for peace, a leading Palestinian is suggesting they might drop the “two-state solution” that has underpinned two decades of negotiations, aiming for Israel and a Palestinian state next to each other.

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Deriding what remains of the peace process as “no more than a waste of time,” Qureia condemned the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for settling the occupied West Bank with Jews and blocking Palestinian access to their hoped-for capital in Jerusalem.

“If this is the policy, I think it is a big lie to talk about the two-state solution,” said Qureia. “They are killing the opportunity of two-state solution. If it dies … there are other choices.

“One state is one of the choices.”

Qureia is subtly aligning himself with a narrative that turns the standard Israeli-Palestinian discourse, with its focus on Palestinian victimization, on its head: Israel may need an end to its occupation of Palestinian lands more urgently than the Palestinians do, to avoid being overwhelmed by sheer numbers of Arabs.

He is the highest ranking Palestinian to articulate a view that is increasingly heard behind closed Palestinian doors: Despite the privations of the occupation, time is oddly on their side, and Israel is shooting itself in the foot with its settlements and stalling.
 

There’s really nothing extraordinary about this article other than the fact it’s heavily covered. It carries all the usual we’ve been hearing for years; both sides want Jerusalem (“it’s a minimum payoff needed by any leader to “sell” his people on a deal” ), demographic scare lingo, Israel won’t accept it, mini Palestinian Authority, and the interim accords history (the sides were supposed to reach a final peace deal within five years) etc.

I’m wondering why this article is getting so much traction. Does it signify something? Yes: the shifting paradigm.

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  1. Dan Crowther
    April 24, 2012, 10:30 am

    NICE!!

    I had sent this to the MW guys, was hoping it was gonna get posted. Robbins to the Rescue!! :)

    • Annie Robbins
      April 24, 2012, 12:40 pm

      hey dan, somehow i missed your heads up and frankly felt a little late to the party. i first encountered this on lebanon’s daily star last night. i wasn’t active in i/p back in his days and the name Ahmed Qureia was not familiar to me. so i thought perhaps because it was reported in beruit this was a bigger deal in lebanon. so i wondered if it was covered elsewhere and googled a quote of his. They are killing the opportunity of two-state solution. If it dies … there are other choices. and i was surprised! it’s everywhere!

      edit, that link doesn’t work, try this

      link to google.com…+there+are+other+choices.++&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

      anyway, thanks for keeping an eye out and letting us know. one way or another it found it’s way here. ;)

      • seafoid
        April 25, 2012, 9:33 am

        Dr. Haidar Eid from 2009

        link to zmag.org

        “Not only have the whites been guilty of being on the offensive, but by some skilful manoeuvres, they have managed to control the responses of the blacks to the provocation. Not only have they kicked the black, but they have also told him how to react to the kick. For a long time the black has been listening with patience to the advice he has been receiving on how best to respond to the kick. With painful slowness he is now beginning to show signs that it is his right and duty to respond to the kick in the way he sees fit.
        – Steve Biko

        Osloization, within this neo-Zionist context, means the creation of a new paradigm through which you wash out the consciousness of your supposed enemy-the ‘Other’-and replace it with a one-dimensional mentality, through the construction of a fiction (two states for two peoples) whose end is unattainable
        Oslo, then, brought an unprecedented level of corruption into Palestine ; and security coordination with Israel , under the supervision of—irony of ironies—an American general, has become the norm. Repeating the two-state mantra, carrying the Palestinian flag, singing the national anthem and— more importantly—recognizing Israel , regardless of the rights of two thirds of the Palestinian people, are what Oslo is all about.

        The lesson we learn from Gaza 2009 is to harness all effort to fight the outcome of the Oslo Accords, and to form a United Front on a platform of resistance and reforms. This cannot be achieved without dismantling the PA and realizing that ministries, premierships, and presidencies in Gaza and Ramalah are a façade not unlike the South African Independent Homelands with their tribal chiefs. The classical national program, created and adopted by the Palestinian bourgeoisie has reached its end unsuccessfully. Most political forces, including the governing party in Gaza , fail to explain how 6 million Palestinian refugees will return to the Israeli State of the Jews and an independent Palestinian state will be created at the same time.

        Hence the necessity for an alternative paradigm that divorces itself from the fiction of the two-prison solution, a paradigm that takes the sacrifices of the people of Gaza as a turning point in the struggle for liberation, one that builds on the growing global anti-apartheid movement that has been given an impetus by Gaza 2009. De-Osloizing Palestine is, therefore, a precondition for the creation of peace with justice.”

  2. Denis
    April 24, 2012, 10:44 am

    “. . . quoting former Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia as saying the two state solution is dead. Well not exactly; but he said Israel killed it. So I guess that means it’s dead.”
    Like . . . huh?

    AP: “Israel captured the territories in the 1967 war.”
    While it may not be new news, it is worth mentioning that AP and WaPo are propagating this Israeli line that the territories are now Israel’s in spite of a number of UN resolutions condemning that position.

    • Fredblogs
      April 24, 2012, 3:03 pm

      Israel just has to hold out until the Arab oil runs out, then the only U.N. countries that will care are the Muslim and Arab ones.

      • Sumud
        April 25, 2012, 1:55 am

        Israel just has to hold out until the Arab oil runs out, then the only U.N. countries that will care are the Muslim and Arab ones.

        Yes, we all remember how the anti-apartheid campaign for South Africa collapsed when South Africa’s oil reserves ran dry.

      • ahhiyawa
        April 25, 2012, 7:11 am

        >>>Israel just has to hold out until the Arab oil runs out, then the only U.N. countries that will care are the Muslim and Arab ones.<<<

        The origins of the US/Israeli special relationship were the Cold War and oil. That war ended in the early 1990's and the special relationships guaranteeing western access to oil is shifting to Arab and Muslim states, not Israel.

    • Annie Robbins
      April 24, 2012, 3:37 pm

      Like . . . huh?

      i meant he didn’t specifically say it was dead (in fact he said “If it dies … there are other choices.”). but he did say :

      “If the two-state solution will not succeed … what you can do?” Qureia asked. “You can go back to other choices. I am not calling to kill the two-state solution. I am saying that who killed the two-state solution is Israel.”

      fair use prevented me from publishing more of the article. he actually said a lot more. perhaps we’re getting mixed messages but when one says something is killed it sends a message it is dead.

      Israel captured the territories in the 1967 war

      thanks for bringing this particular quote to my attention right now. i wasn’t sure if it was directly in the text and being lazy i decided to google it(by news) figuring it would pull up the article (rather than rereading it). i came upon this fresh (2 hrs old) AP article from jerusalem (author not cited) on fox news with a similar theme as the other AP ex PM interview.

      link to foxnews.com

      Israeli opposition chief fears binational state

      JERUSALEM – Israel’s new parliamentary opposition leader said Tuesday that the Jewish state faces the danger of being replaced by a binational Jewish-Arab entity if it fails to separate itself from the Palestinians.

      Former military chief Shaul Mofaz won leadership of the centrist Kadima Party last month.

      “The threat of us losing the Jewish majority and Israel becoming a binational state is the biggest threat to Israel, and time is working against us,” he told Israel Radio. “The threat of a binational state that we are bequeathing to our children really keeps me awake at night.”

      The Iranian-born Mofaz, in one of his first interviews since winning the Kadima primary last month, said Israel must resume negotiations with the Palestinians.

      Talks are stalled after the failure of repeated efforts over the past two decades to reach a deal on carving out a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and east Jerusalem, territories Israel captured in the 1967 Mideast war.

      Mofaz’s comments came a day after former Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia struck a similar theme from the other side of the Mideast equation, saying the Palestinians might abandon the “two-state solution” strategy and aim for a single state consisting of Israel plus the West Bank and Gaza — in which all ethnic and religious groups had equal status.

  3. Kathleen
    April 24, 2012, 12:07 pm

    ““If this is the policy, I think it is a big lie to talk about the two-state solution,” said Qureia. “They are killing the opportunity of two-state solution. If it dies … there are other choices.

    “One state is one of the choices.”

    What other choices?
    Sounds like Mearsheimers take is becoming common
    link to mondoweiss.net

    • libra
      April 24, 2012, 3:03 pm

      What other choices?

      Get the hell back to your 67 borders if you want a “Jewish state”.

      • Fredblogs
        April 24, 2012, 11:35 pm

        And if they did that, the Palestinians would demand that they get back to the pre-1948 borders. And if they did that, the Palestinians would demand that they go “back” to Europe.

      • ahhiyawa
        April 25, 2012, 7:32 am

        >>>And if they did that, the Palestinians would demand that they get back to the pre-1948 borders. And if they did that, the Palestinians would demand that they go “back” to Europe.<<<

        Nonsense. Israelis will flee like rats bailing from a sinking ship once they come face to face with what they have and are doing to themselves.

        Israelis will only consider 2 states when they realize the suicidal path of having it all explodes like a nuke in their collective minds. But when that day comes it will be too late. Palestinians are learning, they are getting smarter, its dawning that acquiescing to the Zionist fantasy is their path to having 'it all.'

        Zionism will end in Palestine "uber alles."

    • Fredblogs
      April 24, 2012, 3:05 pm

      The other choice isn’t so much a choice as it is what will happen because no one with the power to make a choice will make it. The status quo, continuing into the foreseeable future. Palestinians lobbing rockets and the Israelis taking land.

      • Annie Robbins
        April 24, 2012, 3:20 pm

        because you have a crystal ball and know the future!

      • Fredblogs
        April 24, 2012, 4:50 pm

        Like anyone else, I can look at the past and present, look at the personalities, politics, and cultures of the world and extrapolate. I might be wrong, I hope I am. I hope the Palestinians see reason and agree to make peace. I just don’t think that is very likely. The Palestinians haven’t changed their stance since 1948 and I don’t see any evidence that leads me to think they will change it in the future. They have an idea that they are owed the entirety of Israel and won’t agree to peace for anything less (see, right of return). The Israelis have changed their stance a bit in the last few decades. They are now not willing to give the Palestinians even as much as the deals the Palestinians already turned down. There is no conceivable peace deal that is acceptable to both sides, so negotiations are pointless, even if the Palestinians were willing to negotiate. Israel is too strong for the Palestinians to beat and the Palestinians are too stubborn to stop trying to beat them. Other than an Iranian nuke, nothing is likely to change that.

      • ahhiyawa
        April 25, 2012, 8:18 am

        Zionisms barking dogs are on a road that leads nowhere.

      • Sumud
        April 25, 2012, 8:58 am

        Palestinians lobbing rockets and the Israelis taking land.

        Gee Fredblogs – you left out the part about Israel regularly attacking Palestinians with battlefield weapons. Casualties since the outbreak of the second Intifadah to Feb 2012:

        Palestinians killed by Israelis: 6566
        Israelis killed by Palestinians: 1096

        And a subset of that data:

        Palestinian minors killed by Israelis: 1331
        Israeli minors killed by Palestinians: 129

        Source: B’Tselem.

        Also, you omitted all of Israel’s other attempts to make life a hell on earth for Palestinians, listed here.

  4. mikeo
    April 24, 2012, 12:30 pm

    Yup a version of this has run in the Guardian today and it doesn’t read well for Israel. Slowly the terms of reference are changing…
    link to guardian.co.uk

  5. lysias
    April 24, 2012, 12:57 pm

    I don’t see this interview in today’s print Washington Post, and I don’t remember having seen it in yesterday’s. The Washington Post often posts AP stuff on its Website that doesn’t make it into the print edition.

    Let us give credit where credit is due. This interview seems to have been the work of AP Jerusalem Bureau Chief Dan Perry.

    However, an article that is in today’s print Washington Post (p. A10) is Palestinian hunger strikes draw attention to Israeli detention practice, by Karen Brulliard, datelined Arraba, West Bank (Special correspondent Samuel Sockol in Jerusalem contributed to the report).

    • Annie Robbins
      April 24, 2012, 1:25 pm

      lysias, i was just reading about perry here: link to davidsvoice.org

      just wondering how an interview like this spreads so far and so fast. thanks for the link, that is a rather extraordinary link about administrative detention, extraordinary for the fact it’s in wapo with not a lot of counter narrative.

      Critics say that if military prosecutors are confident enough in their evidence to imprison a suspect, they should prove their case in an open court. Sahar Francis, director of the Palestinian prisoner advocacy organization Addameer, said that although limited use of administrative detention is legal under international law, Israel uses it too liberally.

      “They use it in every case where they don’t find evidence against the person, and they use it as a kind of punishment,” Francis said.

  6. eljay
    April 24, 2012, 1:19 pm

    >> link to guardian.co.uk

    >> … [Beilin] … insisted the two-state solution was “in trouble but not dead”. A one-state outcome “is not an option because it means a Jewish minority dominating a Palestinian majority in a few years from now, and this is something that neither Israelis and for sure not the world will accept”.

    Nothing but a religion-supremacist Jewish state will do.

    >> Some on the left see a state in which an eventual majority of Palestinians have equal rights as their only chance for self-determination, even if it is at the expense of a Jewish homeland.

    Equal rights?! What’s the matter with these anti-Semitic, Israel-hating, self-loathing Jews. Why can’t they be like the rest of their collective and embrace the concept of a religion-supremacist Jewish state?

    >> According to Beilin, there is another possible scenario, in which a rightwing Israeli government unilaterally withdraws from the West Bank to the separation barrier in a move comparable to the withdrawal from Gaza in 2005. … Like [Israel’s withdrawal from] Gaza, the world will not love it but they will say it is better than the previous situation. And this would also be the reaction of somebody like myself. I will not love it but I will say at least Israel got out of 92% of the West Bank.”

    So this hateful turd doesn’t want to see a one-state solution, but he “will not love” a two-state solution that requires Israel to vacate 92% of the West Bank. What an asshole.

    • Fredblogs
      April 24, 2012, 3:09 pm

      I don’t know about him, but what I would dislike about a unilateral move like that is that exactly what happened in Gaza would happen in the West Bank. The terrorists take over and use their country to lob missiles at Israel and Israel periodically bombs the hell out of them in retaliation, ad infinitem. The Israelis want a peace deal so that when the Palestinians get their own country, they use it peacefully instead of as a springboard to try to destroy the rest of Israel.

      • Annie Robbins
        April 24, 2012, 3:22 pm

        zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

        the ol israel only reacts hasbara. freshen up yer talking pts fred.

      • Fredblogs
        April 24, 2012, 4:51 pm

        The truth doesn’t need freshening up. It was true before, it’s still true now. Boring I know, but the truth often is.

      • ahhiyawa
        April 25, 2012, 8:27 am

        >>>The truth doesn’t need freshening up. It was true before, it’s still true now. Boring I know, but the truth often is.<<<

        "What is truth?" John 18:38

      • eljay
        April 24, 2012, 3:40 pm

        >> The Israelis want a peace deal so that when the Palestinians get their own country, they use it peacefully instead of as a springboard to try to destroy the rest of Israel.

        Funny how “Israelis want a peace deal”, but:
        – they remain engaged in a 60+ years, ON-GOING and offensive (i.e., not defensive) campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder;
        – they have the power to halt this campaign immediately and completely, but they refuse to do so; and
        – they consistently refuse to enter into sincere negotiations for a just and mutually-beneficial peace.

        “I want peace!” says the rapist, as he ignores the victims pleas, pins her hands down so she can’t punch and slap him, and continues to rape her. Why does she hate the rapist’s freedoms so much?!

      • Fredblogs
        April 24, 2012, 11:04 pm

        You are simply wrong. Israel is fighting to defend itself. It is only an offensive war in the same way America’s war on Germany after D-Day was.

        If the Israelis stopped the checkpoints, and all other security measures, the result wouldn’t be peace, it would be a vast wave of terrorist attacks.

        The Israelis even tried unilateral withdrawal from Gaza, guess what, instead of living peacefully, the Gazans stepped up their attacks.

        Funny thing, at the time, I remember reading about proponents of the withdrawal saying that the only reason the Gazans were attacking was because Gaza was occupied, that Israel couldn’t lose by withdrawing. That it would be a first step toward peace. And that either the Gazans would be peaceful or the world would support Israel when it defended its people against attacks from Gaza. Shockingly, neither happened.

      • eljay
        April 25, 2012, 7:38 am

        >> You are simply wrong. Israel is fighting to defend itself.

        Right, and the rapist is fighting to defend himself from the victim’s slaps and punches as he continues to rape her. Aggressor-victimhood is a tough gig.

        >> If the Israelis stopped the checkpoints, and all other security measures, the result wouldn’t be peace, it would be a vast wave of terrorist attacks.

        Who said anything about stopping all security measures? Like any other nation, Israel has a right to defend its borders. But it’s not defending its borders – it’s defending its ON-GOING occupation, oppression, expansion and colonization of all of Palestine.

        The Zio-supremacist mind is quite something. You excuse the use of terrorism and ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians. You support the creation of a religion-supremacist state. When you’re not actively participating in it, you excuse Israel’s 60+ years, ON-GOING and offensive (i.e., not defensive) campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder. You excuse the fact that Israel has the power to halt this campaign immediately and completely, but refuses to do so. You excuse Israel’s unwillingness to enter into SINCERE negotiations for a JUST and MUTUALLY-BENEFICIAL peace.

        You enable, entitle, defend and glorify Israel as an aggressive, oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and religion-supremacist state…and then wail and wonder why everyone “hates you for your freedoms”. What a sick f*cking joke(r).

      • Sumud
        April 25, 2012, 8:32 am

        But it’s not defending its borders – it’s defending its ON-GOING occupation, oppression, expansion and colonization of all of Palestine.

        You enable, entitle, defend and glorify Israel as an aggressive, oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and religion-supremacist state…and then wail and wonder why everyone “hates you for your freedoms”. What a sick f*cking joke(r).

        A big old waaaaaaaah from Fredblogs you’re responding to there eljay.

        If Goebbels was really on the ball he would have described the participants in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising as terrorists. It’s been Israel’s ‘get out of gaol card’ for decades now.

      • lyn117
        April 27, 2012, 12:13 am

        Funny, the only “vast wave” of terror attacks originating in the West Bank occurred well after Israel had instituted hundreds of checkpoints, preventing people from accessing jobs, schools and houses of worship, as well as employed “security measures” such as torture, beatings, imprisonment without trial and sniper fire to quell demonstrations against Israeli takeover of territory.

        Sorry, Fredblogs, people on this blog are mostly too smart and knowledgeable to fall for stupid zionist thinking, in this case making up some imaginary and improbable but frightening scenario of what would happen if Israel actually withdrew from the occupied territories, to use as an excuse not to make any genuine effort at peace.

  7. Joseph Glatzer
    April 25, 2012, 12:23 am

    He said the same thing in 2004 link to news.bbc.co.uk Did the author bother doing elementary research before getting worked up over this AP piece proclaiming it as a sign of a shifting paradigm?

    Honestly, what’s wrong with our movement that we view corrupt bantustan managers who make the same hollow threats year after year to be big news? How many times has Abu Mazen made this exact same hollow threat? What about Saeb Erekat? Dwelling on these stories is a waste of time which is meant to distract the Palestinians and their supporters from calling for an end to the PA.

    So, the guy makes this statement from his bantustan office? So he’s still a part of this indirect colonial system, yet we take this stupid threat seriously? I really wish we would wake up and stop spinning our wheels here. I’m getting really frustrated with how slow and far behind the discourse of our movement can be on these issues.

    • ahhiyawa
      April 25, 2012, 8:56 am

      A decade ago the idea of a single state outcome among Palestinians was unthinkable, but today it has traction and gaining currency on the W/B and Gaza. It has always been so among Israeli Palestinians. No matter how much land Zionists steal Palestinian nationalism only hardens with every insult and violation, while the policies of humiliation and punishment have failed in driving the Palestinians to immigrate.

      Palestinians have survived on their own terms for some 60 plus years against all the odds short of genocide or ethnic cleansing, for which Israelis haven’t the stomach for the former or balls for the latter. All Pals need do is endure (a bottomless well from which they are uniquely gifted from which to draw) and wait. Patience may be a pain for you, but for Palestinians its a treasury of hidden resources.

    • Annie Robbins
      April 25, 2012, 9:47 am

      actually joseph, i can’t take credit for the very last sentence, that was an editorial choice, but i do agree with it. can’t say i am particularly ‘worked up’ about the interview myself either. i tried to make the point in the opening and again after the blockquote that the traction this story was getting from the msm is the story. the shifting paradigm is the repetitiousness in the msm about the death of the 2SS, inevitability of one state, and that being israel’s fault.

      the same author, dan perry AP jerusalem bureau chief, wrote another the next day now charting the same course ( Israeli opposition chief fears binational state) only this time it’s promoting kadima’s new leader Shaul Mofaz. i posted it upthread on fox and here it is again today on salon. link to salon.com

      “Our government doesn’t want an agreement and won’t reach an agreement,” he said.

      • Joseph Glatzer
        April 25, 2012, 11:32 am

        OK. Where are the other examples of the mainstream media about the death of the 2 state solution? I’m not talking about the “possible” or “potential” death of it “IF” Israel doesn’t stop settlement building. I’m talking about the ones who say it IS too late and the 2 state solution is over and there are now discussions about what will come next. Where are those articles? If they are there I will be the first one to admit I’m wrong.

        Here is the quote from the salon.com story, “Israel’s new parliamentary opposition leader said Tuesday that the Jewish state faces the danger of being replaced by a binational Jewish-Arab entity if it fails to separate itself from the Palestinians.” Notice the key word “if”. Then, the article continues as a garden variety article saying the two sides HAVE to get back to talks to SAVE the 2 state solution. This is not the same thing as writing the obit for the 2 state solution. In fact it is saying, “Let’s PLEASE save the 2 state solution so we dont have to write the obit for the 2 state solution”.

        Here’s what Qureia said, “If this is the policy, I think it is a big lie to talk about the two-state solution,” said Qureia. Notice the key word “IF” here again. You see? It is all a continuation of business as usual dressed up as a sea change.

        The last line of the article is somewhat relevant and important I think. But, what I said is true. If there are examples of the obit for the 2 state solution without the “if” I will recant. But, please show me if they exist. And by the way, I am just wondering if you did know PA leaders and Israeli Prime Ministers and “peace” groups have been making these same statements for years if not decades? That Qureia made this statement back in 2004, and he still sits on the native administration of the colonial master 8 years later?

      • Annie Robbins
        April 25, 2012, 3:27 pm

        Where are the other examples of the mainstream media about the death of the 2 state solution?

        joseph, the point i was trying to make is this particular AP article was picked up and ran all over the place in less than 24 hrs, it’s gone viral. why? he’s someone i had not even heard of before (granted i wasn’t following i/p back during his tenure). i explained upthread how i read it on the daily star i thought perhaps because it was reported in beruit this was a bigger deal in lebanon. then i googled the story and jeez louise, more legs than a centipede. i linked upthread to the coverage here:

        link to mondoweiss.net

        but since then there are many more, here.

        there are over 7 google pages with over 30 listings on each one.

        i observe the news. when i read an article i will google the content and see who else is reporting it, out of curiosity. i watch how stories travel, what gets picked up, how fast it gets picked up, what gets ignored etc etc.

        why would a story like this go viral? it’s not like there’s anything too special about it? so why is it being reported on TV programs from Lexington to Chatanooga? and where’s Steubenville? this article has saturated the US msm. literally saturated. i have watched many many more important stories fall completely flat.

        don’t you think that is a tad odd for an ex palestinian authority PM 99.9% of americans have never heard of?

        i just thought it was strange. we’ve been hearing ‘the window on the 2SS is closing’ for a long long time. i think this could signal an indication the msn is now ready to communicate it’s closed. for whatever reason i am not sure.

        i will tell you one thing, this is not the fogel family murder, so why was it covered like this?

  8. ahhiyawa
    April 25, 2012, 2:39 pm

    Gideon Levy, a columnist for Haaretz proclaimed it dead several weeks ago, but the link to the page no longer works. The senior editor of the Atlantic, Robert Wright wrote an article about it.

    The Atlantic, Wednesday, April 25, 2012
    “It’s Official: Two-State Solution Declared Dead”
    link to theatlantic.com

    It matters not what “mainstream” media darling or analysts say or believe, as its infinitely more important what’s transpiring in the collective minds of Palestinians. Annie is spot on when she described the current state of affairs between Israelis and Palestinians as a “shifting paradigm.”

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