Russia Today video of Israeli Land Day fire in Gaza.
In Friday's Land Day protests, hundreds of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza were injured by Israeli dispersal weapons, and one in Gaza was killed. Weapons used against the protesters included tear gas canisters, live bullets, and water cannons. In addition, Israeli forces also used a Long Range Acoustic Device, a sound machine designed to emit a high frequency noise. The machine can be heard in the background of both videos. It sounds like a soft and piercing, high pitch.
In the West Bank over 200 were severely injured and at least nine in Gaza. Tens of Palestinians were also arrested in the West Bank. Russia Today was reporting live, and captured the Israeli weapons as they were used against protestors.
My neighbors’ kids used long range low frequency on me (boom stereos). I surrendered and moved after 3-1/2 years (partly because they had cop connections and I wound up being the one getting hassled).
Crooked cops are much alike all over the globe.
Does this mean that the demonstrations where not “non-violent” as billed by Barghouti?
Where do they want Jews to go? When will they understand that Jews have no other place to go and no amount of demonstrations can change this fact.
The Palestinian cause would be better served if they were encourage to live together with Jews, without denying Jewish legitimate rights. Yes, Jews have rights as well. The story is not only about Arabs.
@ giladg.
You’re confused. You need a ‘license’ to kill. It’s not a ‘right.’
I fully agree with you Gilad that the bulldozing of Jewish homes, construction of Arab-only housing and roads, and rampant theft of land and water resources from Jews in the Holy Land must stop. And shame on the US leadership for cozying up to the Arab Lobby and defending this ongoing ethnic cleansing of helpless Jews from Israel by the near-omnipotent Palestinians. Who can stop them except you and me?
When the Palestinians want to they know how to bring the Arab and Muslim armies to the borders of Israel, and not for fishing trips, and they have done so numerous times. Omnipotent, right.
There is a considerable agreement that the proper treaty line should be the green line. Israel could then live in peace and without all these protests, AFTER it got completely out of the West Bank (and lifted the now-7-year siege of Gaza).
Once this is done, the MAJOR part of the conflict will be over. The question of RoR will remain, Israel will remain intransigent, and the effectiveness of UNGA-194 et al will depend on HOW ANGRY the international community has become by the time it gets its act together to bring about the GREEN-LINE peace.
Israel is — IMO — foolish to make peace depend (and wait) upon a fully enraged international community, because that (if it ever occur, of course!) could entail the RoR of the exiles from 1948, whereas a kind-gentle offer by Israel of a just and lasting comprehensive peace (green-line, corridor from Gaza to WB, Israeli access to Jewish holy places with land-access to wailing wall) might side-step the RoR issue (incorrectly in my view, but understandably as a political matter).
>> The Palestinian cause would be better served if they were encourage to live together with Jews …
Yeah, those Palestinians are just plain silly for not wanting to live with Jews who:
- ethnically cleansed them from their homes and land in order to create an oppressive, expansionist, colonialist and religion-supremacist Jewish state;
- remain engaged in an ON-GOING and offensive (i.e., not defensive) campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder which they refuse to halt immediately and completely, even though they have the power to do so; and
- refuse to enter into sincere negotiations for a just and mutually-beneficial peace.
They probably would already be doing that had the Israelli founders not insisted on artifically and violently creating a Jewish majorioty where none existed.
Yes that’s what Israel needs, more Jewish rights.
More rights to steal land
More rights to evict Palestinians from their homes
More rights to expel Palestinians and murder them.
In the 1930s the Palestinians were prepared to live together with Jews in a unified Palestine. They were prepared to grant all residents, Arabs and Jews, equal rights.
It was the Zionist Jews who refused to live together with Palestinians and denied the rights of the Palestinians. And they still do.
giladg — “Jews” nice try….. Israelis can go live in Israel…….
It is prohibited under International Law for Israelis, both Jewish and non-Jewish (incl Arab Israelis) to illegally settle in “territories occupied” and/or territories illegally acquired by war and never legally annexed to the occupying power
“Does this mean that the demonstrations where not “non-violent” as billed by Barghouti?”
No, it means that the Israelis reacted like the terrorists they are.
“The Palestinian cause would be better served if they were encourage to live together with Jews, without denying Jewish legitimate rights. ”
Here is the problem with that formulation, as it has been exercised for 3 generations: to you zios, “to live together with Jews” means to be subjects of the Jews, with special laws in place to preserve Jewish control over Arabs, even to the point of holding millions of people as stateless serfs with no human rights.
If you want the Arabs and Jews to live together, then be willing to give everyone from the Med. to the Jordan and equal say in the government, with full political rights and human rights preserved for all.
Will you encourage the Jews to live together with Arabs, under those fair conditions? Or are you really saying that you want the Arabs to get used to living under the Jews?
giladg
“the jews have no other place to go”
Let not confuse the jews, who left Europe after the Holocaust and great suffering, with the majority with those jews who came much, much later.
Those jews had a place to live, millions in the old Sovietunion alone, where there was no anti-semitism. As matter of fact, the jews were highly represented in the ruling class, both political and economical.
The same goes for those jews who lived peacefully in the arab countries. I personally talked to jews in Tunisia only a few years ago, who live there happily and will not move to Israel.
Facit, outside the jews who came before 1948 all others had a home where they could live peacefully and usually in greater comfort than the other citizens and these are in great majority. You believed the zionist propaganda.
The land of milk and honey did not work out as planned and the flow of those goodies will stop with the cancellation of billions of US support.
At that time we will see a great new wandering of jews to greener pastures.
“The Palestinian cause would be better served if they were encourage to live together with Jews, without denying Jewish legitimate rights.”
You mean like in 1948 when the Palestinians wanted to live together with Jews and including minority rights in a united, independent Palestine and Jewish seperatists and terrorists didn’t and went for a hostile takeover of Palestine and expulsion?
Gilad, I like Bill’s comment above. Perhaps irony is the best response. But. . .
I was going to ask you, sincerely, do you really believe what you write? A couple of days ago I read in the Times a story about some Jewish from Milwaukee settlement woman, in Migron. She spouted all the Bible torah bs. But do you really believe she has “no other place to go?” She could come back to Milwaukee. She would probably have to be deprogrammed, but we would take her. She would do less damage to us here than there.
Does this mean that the demonstrations where not “non-violent” as billed by Barghouti?
Where do they want Jews to go? When will they understand that Jews have no other place to go and no amount of demonstrations can change this fact.
The Palestinian cause would be better served if they were encourage to live together with Jews, without denying Jewish legitimate rights. Yes, Jews have rights as well. The story is not only about Arabs.
I was going to comment that the bravery and, yes, morality demonstrated by those IDF soldiers in the video is astonishing; the military is truly Israel’s greatest institution, bar none!
But then I read giladg’s astute analysis and realized the Israeli educational system is Even More Awesome!!!
The NYPD had a long range acoustic device ready for use at the antiwar protests on 7th Ave and 34th Street. In case things got out of hand they had, which I believe was a low frequency generator aimed down 7th Ave. I think these demonstration videos shot by the israeli forces will be used as a training tool for other officers worldwide, for the G8 summit and that sort of venue.A by-product of tghe occupation that can be sold to global security firms.
The Long Range Acoustic Device (LRAD) has been used a number of times against protesters:
At the time the LRAD was used in Honduras, there were reports that a “retired” Israeli general was in charge of the operation:
Sorry, I formatted that wrong: the quote from Wikipedia ended at “LRAD deployed at Occupy Oakland link to ustream.tv”. The blockquote should have ended there.
It was at the RNC in NYC in 2004. Sitting atop a big white police truck that was built for it. I tried to find a picture of the vehicle. Very imposing, made you feel like a small insect and it was a giant fly swatter. I thought it was larger than the one picture in the wiki link.