‘What do you want from a 5 year old girl? She threatens your state?’: Israel raids a house in Nabi Saleh

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Palestinian woman confronts Israeli thugs that entered her home in the middle of the night to interrogate her family wanted to wake up her 5 year old daughter. Palestinian woman wins. Bittersweet.

Choice quotes:

“I dont fear you, you’re in my house and you tell me to shut up, you shut up! You leave my house!”

“What do you want from a 5 year old girl? She threatens your state?  She threatens its security? Are you happy with your state?”

From the YouTube page (translation Austin Branion):

“Occupation forces stormed the village of Nabi Saleh after midnight, raiding and ransacking the house of photographer Bilal al-Tamimi. They withdrew after the outbreak of clashes with village youth and the pelting of IOF vehicles with stones.”

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  1. seafoid
    April 11, 2012, 9:37 am

    Devastating article by Amira Hass

    Israel is sacrificing its own future in the name of regional hegemony

    http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/israel-must-understand-it-cannot-be-like-america-1.423677?trailingPath=2.169%2C2.223%2C

    Meanwhile far too many intelligent Jews are in denial

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/10/we-welcome-israel-national-theatre

  2. Austin Branion
    April 11, 2012, 10:00 am

    Feel free to contact me for real translations instead of Google translations! The YouTube description says:

    “Occupation forces stormed the village of Nabi Saleh after midnight, raiding and ransacking the house of photographer Bilal al-Tamimi. They withdrew after the outbreak of clashes with village youth and the pelting of IOF vehicles with stones.”

    What’s really interesting here is that Google apparently translates what literally reads “occupation vehicles” as “IOF vehicles.” While that just so happens to be correct in this context, I wonder how would they know what occupation is being talked about? And it’s kinda funny that whoever wrote this description says “the pelting of IOF vehicles with stones” without attributing it to the “village youth,” as though it mysteriously happened.

    • Adam Horowitz
      April 11, 2012, 10:21 am

      Thanks Austin, I updated the post. Sorry, I was being lazy!

    • eGuard
      April 12, 2012, 5:07 am

      I don’t get this. If “IOF” and “village youth” is not in the arabic text, why do you add these words, Austin Branion? Or, conversely, what is wrong with Google translation if it adds them just like you do?

  3. Denis
    April 11, 2012, 10:03 am

    I am struck by a couple of things. First, how much English both the lady and the IDF use. Is it common in the area and in these interactions between IDF and Palestinians for them to communicate in English?

    Second, while not condoning a masked home invasion in the middle of the night, these kids are, basically, polite. They were sent there by some low-level officer, and are following orders. The IDF is full of pricks, and we often see those guys on videos beating up people or spraying them with mace. But there must be an equal number of IDF soldiers who know what they’re doing is wrong and who don’t want to be there.

    Had this patrol been Americans in Iraq or Afghanistan, the lady would have gotten a rifle butt in the face and that would have been the end of the video.

    Thank you for posting this.

    • joemowrey
      April 11, 2012, 1:41 pm

      Wow Denis,

      Basically polite? Just “following orders?” Is there anything “polite” about this invasion of these people’s privacy? Would you defend the actions of masked gunmen (actually “kids,” as you point out; kids given too much power and abusing it too willingly) if they invaded your home in the middle of the night and wanted to question your sleeping five-year-old daughter? Think about what you are saying. How would you respond if these were Palestinians invading a Jewish home? And what purpose do the masks serve, other than to terrorise these people whose home their are defiling with their presence. Polite, my keester. These are thugs, plain and simple. If any one of them were my son I would be ashamed of their behavior.

    • seafoid
      April 11, 2012, 5:03 pm

      There are many decent soldiers in the US army in Afghanistan. It’s an insult to compare them to IDF goons brought up on a non stop diet of hasbara.

      • Daniel Rich
        April 11, 2012, 8:00 pm

        @ seafoid,

        side note: PTSD Affecting More U.S. Soldiers Than British @ http://www.miller-mccune.com/health/ptsd-affecting-more-american-soldiers-than-british-32096/

        Must be a reason, although I don’t know which one.

      • Bumblebye
        April 11, 2012, 9:02 pm

        Possibly that our lads have much shorter deployments to the war zones, whereas yours can be over a year. There are still significant readjustment problems though.

      • Daniel Rich
        April 12, 2012, 12:47 am

        @ Bumblebye,

        Not an attempt to sidetrack this thread: do your guys [Brits] do multiple tods?

      • ToivoS
        April 12, 2012, 1:05 am

        There are many decent soldiers in the US army in Afghanistan.

        That may very well be true, but we just saw one go ballistic, you know Sgt. Bales. He will soon be cleared of any crime for killing 9 children and 8 unarmed adults because of PTSD. Remember Golda Mayer telling us that the IDF is the most moral army in the world because when they are in the process of killing Palestinians they cry while doing so.

      • CigarGod
        April 12, 2012, 10:53 am

        “…they cry while doing so.”
        How could she have believed her own reasoning…and how could anyone who listened to her, have bought it? The human race seems to be divided along these lines.

      • Miss Costello
        April 12, 2012, 3:53 pm

        She didn’t believe it. She just hoped everyone else would be dumb enough to. They probably were, and did.

    • Inanna
      April 11, 2012, 9:33 pm

      Dennis, that was a really a smart bit of spin. Not only have you gone the whole liberal zionist agenda of the ‘nice occupation’ but you’ve even managed to have a nice dig/favorable comparison of the IDF at the expense of US soldiers too. As well as the nice deflection about a tangential point like your wonder at everyone communicating in English! I think the Israeli foreign ministry should hire you, stat.

      Unfortunately where you are smart is also exactly where you are dumb. Choosing to focus on the language between oppressor and oppressed rather than the actual oppression and its morality kinds makes you look heartless. Choosing to focus on the alleged politeness of the soldiers in another, since the invasion of one’s home in the middle of the night, without a search warrant or cause, masked and heavily armed, photographing people without their consent, waking up children/threats to the security of state etc is, in the real universe, about the furthest you could get from polite and kinda makes one doubt your powers of perception and comprehension. And then choosing to compare the Israeli occupation favorably with that of the US occupations is your next mistake, since the ‘but they’re worse’ argument is hardly a moral one.

      What you missed was the fear in the eyes of the soldiers. They know they don’t belong there. They know what they are doing is wrong. They know it’s not morally justified. Yet they cling to their fears and that of their society and keep doing what they are doing because they are only following orders. Yes, you yourself damned them by justifying their behavior in this way. When has that ever been an excuse?

    • Denis
      April 12, 2012, 11:21 am

      re: joemowrey, inanna

      For all of you Israeli-haters who cannot bear to see an objective comment on IDF soldiers that might be construed as positive, let me note the following:
      I’m an ex-combat Marine, and I’ve seen plenty of how soldiers treat civilians in tense situations. I’ve also seen enough vids of IDF beating up on unarmed Palestinians. The IDF guys in this flick are behaving politely by any measure of comparison.

      Busting into a house in the middle of the night is done under orders. But the way you speak to the people inside is a personal choice and we should be encouraging this sort of self-control rather than knee-jerkers like the critics here who want to demonize everybody and everything associated w/ Israel. Your attitude is as culpable for perpetuating this mess as the die-hard Zionists’.

      As I clearly said, I don’t condone the raid, but I certainly condone the self-control I see in that video. If you can’t see it or can’t condone it, you’ve got a real problem.

      • Annie Robbins
        April 12, 2012, 2:15 pm

        For all of you Israeli-haters

        i’m glad you’ve shown your stripes denis.

      • Denis
        April 12, 2012, 5:40 pm

        Taking it out of context, aren’t you Annie. Here’s the entire clause. Are you taking a cheap shot because it applies to you?

        “For all of you Israeli-haters who cannot bear to see an objective comment on IDF soldiers that might be construed as positive. . .”

      • CigarGod
        April 12, 2012, 7:45 pm

        “Your attitude is as culpable for perpetuating this mess as the die-hard Zionists’”

        Not hardly, hombre.
        Objecting to abuse – mild or harsh – isn’t at all like advocating it…or participating in it.

  4. eljay
    April 11, 2012, 11:40 am

    Ducks, trees, sheep and, now, even five-year-old girls: Is there nothing / no-one in this world that / who isn’t anti-Semitic?!

    Clearly, the only thing a religion-supremacist Jewish state can do in a situation like this is to maintain its 60+ years, ON-GOING and offensive (i.e., not defensive) campaign of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction and murder.

    Anything less would be tantamount to self-loathing.

    • Daniel Rich
      April 11, 2012, 8:05 pm

      @ eljay,

      Q: Ducks, trees, sheep and, now, even five-year-old girls…

      R: That’s what happens if you’re using NASL as guidance… Noah’s Ark Shipping List

      On a serious note: it seems to me that, in this day and age, with communications lines this vast and fast, any government’s atrocities will be seen by many more eyes than ever before. To what that leads is the 1 million dinar question though…

  5. Refaat
    April 11, 2012, 1:25 pm

    every time israeli shylocks aka IDF raid Palestinian houses, they make sure to exit with a pound of flesh– and a sack of money.

    • wondering jew
      April 11, 2012, 7:44 pm

      Refaat- In case you (or the moderators) are unsure, the use of the term “shylocks” is a Jew hating term.

      • Daniel Rich
        April 12, 2012, 12:59 am

        @ wondering jew,

        ‘The Merchant of Venice’ – WS

  6. seafoid
    April 11, 2012, 4:46 pm

    0:56

    Shu biddak ?

    Nothing says the Palestinians belong in Palestine more than a phrase like Shu biddak . What do you want? I’m sure they said it to the first Zionists and they’ll say it whenZionism falls. That languid accent has been macerating since forever. They didn’t need no committee to make up a language for them. They never needed to make up any words to describe the plants or the birds or the trees.

    • Today in Palestine
      April 11, 2012, 11:41 pm

      Seafoid, I am a big fan of this shu biddak comment. If only you would have written shu bidditch instead, I would have died from joy over it.

      • seafoid
        April 12, 2012, 4:11 am

        The woman seems to be madaniyah . Next time maybe we’ll get the fellahiyah version .

        Cheef Halatch inta ?

      • Today in Palestine
        April 12, 2012, 10:37 am

        Ana swell seafoid, just swell.

      • seafoid
        April 12, 2012, 11:12 am

        Chuwayyis !

      • dimadok
        April 12, 2012, 8:50 am

        You should also try- Mish mushkulah.

  7. seafoid
    April 11, 2012, 4:49 pm

    Is it the same house as in the video from a few weeks ago? The Jewish soldier with the big eyes and the ski mask looks familiar too.

  8. Carowhat
    April 11, 2012, 4:51 pm

    Israel obviously wants nothing from a five year old child but if you wake her up in the middle of the night to intimidate her, her parents might very well get the message that they’re not wanted and leave the country, which is something Israel does want.

    • seafoid
      April 11, 2012, 5:04 pm

      Occupation is like rape. It’s about power and powerlessness.
      Every time I see those videos from the territories I think how bizarre it is to have these men in uniforms with guns in such a beautiful landscape. They insult the land. And they say they respect it.

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