Philip Roth on the Israel lobby

Philip Roth
Philip Roth

A couple times I’ve said that Philip Roth talks about the Israel lobby in his 1986 novel, The Counterlife. Well it was a rainy night and the fire was going, and I did my homework. 

The Israeli character Shuki Elchanan is a former press attache to David Ben-Gurion. He talks to the book’s American narrator, Nathan Zuckerman: 

This is the homeland of Jewish abnormality. Worse: now we are the dependent Jews, on your money, your lobby, on our big allowance from Uncle Sam, while you are the Jews living interesting lives, comfortable lives, without apology, without shame, and perfectly independent.

And here’s from a letter that Elchanan writes to Zuckerman, set in 1978:

Virtually everything we have right now we have to get from abroad. I’m thinking of those things that, if we didn’t have them, the Arab countries wouldn’t tolerate us for a minute (and I include plutonium). What keeps them at bay doesn’t come from our resources but from someone else’s pocket; as I complained to you the other day, mostly it comes from what [President Jimmy] Carter appropriates and what his Congress wants to go along with. What we have comes out of the pocket of the fellow from Kansas–part of each of his tax dollars goes to arm Jews. And why should he pay for the Jews? The other side is always trying to undermine us, to erode this support, and their argument is getting better all the time; just a little more help from [P.M. Menachem] Begin in the way of stupid policy, and they can indeed foster a situation in which the reluctance to keep shelling out is going to grow until finally nobody in the U.S. feels obligated to fork over three billion a year to keep a lot of Yids in guns. In order to keep doling out the dollars, that American has to believe that the Israeli is more or less the same as himself, the same decent sort of guy after the same sort of decent things. And that is not Mordecai Lippman [settler]. If Lippman and his followers are not the Jews they want to pay money for, I won’t blame them. … who from Kansas needs to support that kind of stuff with his hard-earned dough?

It turned out the lobby was only too happy to preserve the settlement project, and the guy from Kansas too. 

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Someone should write a book on Philip Roth and Israel/Zionism — this is just a tasty tip of the iceberg. He was a prophet and visionary on the subject, I think. He knew the entire psychic landscape of the enterprise from the inside — every little twist and turn of thought. And he managed to get it on paper.

It turned out the lobby was only too happy to preserve the settlement project, and the guy from Kansas too.

i know that you’d like to spread the blame in smooth, even strokes, but that’s an inequitable pairing. the ‘guy from the lobby’ spends half his time educating the ‘guy from kansas’, so much so that by the time class is out, the ‘guy from kansas’ couldn’t pick out gaza on a map of the levant.

i’m not a great fan of roth the author (although ‘nemesis’ is a nice little allegory on jewish male guilt over WWII) but at least he’s a mensch.

I don’t think the guy from Kansas is happy to do it…he just doesn’t know about it.

But Israel has always been dependent on the US , no US hubris in me saying that, I’m definitely not proud of it, it’s just a fact. And if the Lobby ever goes, there goes the US support. Because despite all the Israel mouth pieces hype and propaganda about how Americans support Israel all the majority of Americans have for Israel is wide spread indifference for the most part. ..the same indifference they have for most anything until or unless they think it affects them personally.

Israel has been punching above it’s weight on the US largess since it’s inception…how long can it continue?…I don’t know…but don’t think it can
continue forever.

The guy from Kansas and the guys from the evangelical south don’t know that American soldiers are dying (and drones are flying and making ever more enemies, “ENEMIES ARE OUR MOST IMPORTANT PRODUCT”) because of the USA’s imperial project of which Israel is an important part (altho no-one has ever been able to explain to me how allowing the SETTLEMENTS helps the USA).

Nice sentence. Tristram Shandy would’ve been proud.

I wonder how quickly the German government will change its mind about providing Israel those submarines. Poll: Majority of Germans think Israel is ‘aggressive’:

Germans have become markedly more critical of Israel over the past three years, with 59 percent describing it as aggressive, according to a survey for the weekly magazine Stern released on Wednesday.

The survey was conducted shortly before President Joachim Gauck visits Israel and the Palestinian territories May 28-31.

A similar Stern survey in 2009 found 49 percent considered Israel aggressive.

The survey, conducted by Forsa pollsters, found 70 percent of Germans agree with the statement that Israel pursues its interests without consideration for other nations. Three years ago, 59 percent agreed.