West Virginia newspaper: ‘Apartheid imposed on Palestinians’

We are climbing Jacob’s ladder! From the Charleston, WV, Sunday Gazette-Mail: “Apartheid: Imposed on Palestinians:”

Nearly a half-century has passed since Israel seized the West Bank in a 1967 war. Repeatedly, the United Nations has mandated that the captured land be returned to Palestinians, but more and more settlements by fervent Jews are imposed on the conquered territory.

In 1993, when the Oslo Accord promised Palestinians a homeland, only 200,000 Jews lived in the illicit colonies, but the number has soared past 500,000 with no limit in sight. The settlers enjoy privileged living under protection of Israeli soldiers, while Palestinians mostly languish in poverty.

A 2010 Human Rights Watch report said Israel’s armed rule of the West Bank provides “preferential services, development and benefits for Jewish settlers while imposing harsh conditions on Palestinians.” Bishop Tutu added: “This, in my book, is apartheid.”

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  1. seafoid says:

    “fervent”
    Deluded would be an acceptable substitute

  2. OlegR says:

    You should read the comments Philip ,
    that was too right wing even in my book.

  3. Bumblebye says:

    The four comments the editorial attracted so far display 100% ignorance, or 100% hasbara, depending how one reads them!

    • Sumud says:

      Up to five now – and four of the comments seem like they were written by crackheads – or rather: just one crackhead re-posting under different names.

      Hilarity ensues:

      ‘Israel has sovereign rights in the West Bank by Right of Conquest.’
      ‘Loss of territory is the price of losing a war.’
      ‘He [Tutu] is a known Palestinian sympathizer and closet anti-semite, much like the editorial board of the Gazette.’
      ‘Israel, a peace loving western democracy surrounded by ravenous packs of feral humans has defended itself from the latter in four major conflicts…’
      ‘By defending itself Israel has merely taken in a little more of its traditional homeland.’
      ‘The whole issue boils down to liberals being in league with muslims…’
      ‘The gazette would have fit in nicely with the 1930′s Nazi propaganda machine whipping up hatred for Jews.’
      ‘Did these same countries inflict death and destruction on the indigenous residents–American Indians? … Yet, now all that is forgotten and Liberals condem Israel for the same acts.’
      ‘One of the best sources of history is the Bible.’
      ‘The Palestinians joined forces with other Arab countries to again conquer Israel. However, all were defeated in the 7 Day War.’
      ‘Possibly the message for Palestinians is don’t start a war to take over another’s land & whine when you loose!’
      ‘The editorial board of the GAZ is “out of the closet” with its anti-semitism.’
      ‘They wail over checkpoints and restrictions on the Palestinians but seem okay with the Palenistians efforts to kill all the jews.’

      My personal faves? The “ravenous packs of feral humans”, Israel merely taking “in a little more of its traditional homeland” while defending itself (oops!), the frank but accidental admission Israel is inflicting death and destruction on the indigenous residents of Palestine (not funny, because it is true), and the “7 Day War”. When was that again?

      I swear I laughed as much reading those comments as the “orgy in the desert” article also up on MW today.

      Total hasbara meltdown, will do the exact opposite of what is intended.

      • AllenBee says:

        “‘Loss of territory is the price of losing a war.’

        someone on DKos used to use this argument frequently.

        It slays me.

        Isn’t the entire zionist project an attempt to regain territory Jews lost to Rome when a relatively small group of Jewish hotheads thought they could defeat the Roman army — and lost? “Loss of territory is the price of losing a war.”

        but when you dig a little deeper into that situation — I recommend “Rome and Jerusalem,” by Martin Goodman — you learn that what was really going on was a Jewish internecine war that spilled over and harmed long-established Jewish-Roman relations.

        Into this mix, Jesus was born.

        The more the hasbarists pile it on, the more intensely the ROW is digging through the pile of manure, and the more inconvenient truths come to light.
        Keep it up, hasbarabots;

        the words of Walt Whitman come to mind:

        “Who walks a furlong without sympathy walks to his own funeral dressed in his shroud.”

  4. Elisabeth says:

    But read the bloody comments! (4 so far, and all nutty.)

    • AllenBee says:

      the comments are NOT from native West Virginians.

      No West Virginian I know — and I’ve known a lot — sounds like any of those commenters. GYUS is on red alert.

      link to mondoweiss.net

      is there any chance the zionists will, eventually, figure out that it is easier to do the right thing than it is to try to cover up all the lies and silence the truth-tellers?

  5. ritzl says:

    This is the counterpoint to “losing.” :)

    Kathleen just told of an acquaintance who surprised her by being at least aware of the situation in Palestine. The Methodist debate yielded similar experiences for me. Seemingly out of the blue, a newspaper in heartland, Charleston, WV starts a discussion about Israeli Apartheid (as a carryover from the Kairos-UMC debate). 60 Minutes. The challenge to the conventional wisdom on this really is veining out.

    But then I read the comments…

    The editorial board of the GAZ is “out of the closet” with its anti-semitism.

    Etc. Etc. Etc.

    Leading with the antisemitism charge really is the act of desperate people. I hope the GAZ editors, who may not experience or be aware how routine this practice is, can stand the heat.

  6. giladg says:

    Desmond is flat out wrong on this one.

  7. dbroncos says:

    giladg,

    Are you telling us that Tutu lacks knowlege of or experience with apartheid? Tutu lived through apartheid and based on what he saw in the OT, he said Israel’s apartheid system was WORSE than South Africa’s.

    • Blake says:

      As did Mandela

    • giladg says:

      Whatever it is, it is both not apartheid and not worse than apatheid. Palestinians are doctors and professors. The average level of education and standard of living is much higher with the Palestinians. And to their credit, unlike the Palestinians, the Blacks in SA did not wage war and terror on the general population.

      • gamal says:

        Apartheid and the medical training of Black Doctors.

        link to ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

        Mandela and the Church Street Bombing

        link to netcomuk.co.uk

        you’ll enjoy the second link its racist BS which is very much to your taste, is lazy and stupid a requirement for hasbara work i could do it what are the rates, your line manager must be a moron.

        BISHOP DESMOND TUTU, the South African Nobel Prize winner, described how he saw on his visit to Israel “much like what happened to us black people in South Africa. I have seen the humiliation of the Palestinians at checkpoints and roadblocks, suffering like us when young white police officers prevented us from moving about” (1). Comparisons between apartheid South Africa and Israel/Palestine have often been made, but not always clearly explained. Many factors have made the comparison attractive.
        link to mondediplo.com

        • giladg says:

          South Africa never had roadblocks at all. If the Black population went on a brutal campaign of killing Whites, then things would have been different.
          You comment about seeing Palestinians standing and suffering is very local and in the context of time and events in the region, is taken completely out of proportion. And how long did Tutu spend in the region? Alan Busak said the other day in Cape Town that he was taken around the area, by Palesinians, for one week and what he saw in one week was just terrible.
          Really? One week? Maybe Busak and Tutu, for the sake of balance, should have allowed themselves to be taken around by staunch Zionists, educated in the terror waged by the Arabs against Jews.
          And regarding the type of violence perpertratged by the ANC. Most of it was directed at infrastructure and relatively very few Whites were killed.

        • gamal says:

          yup saying blacks are better than palestinians means you are not (not) a racist.

          “relatively very few Whites were killed.” “relatively very few to what”, the number of palestinians killed or the vast number of Israeli butchered while delivering refugee Haitian babies?

          Have you checked with your erstwhile afrikaner racist allies if they think “relatively very few of them” were killed, actually you could learn a thing from them during the period the south african government was french kissing deplorable zionists they killed about 1.5 million africans in the states to their immediate north, mozambique and angola etc, they got away scot free, but you came to the levant, things work differently there, white privilege only gets you so far and they started a couple of centuries before you. i agree if you are going to rape a girl choose one who wont hold it against you.

      • MarkF says:

        “The average level of education and standard of living is much higher with the Palestinians.”

        Wait, we’re told that Palestinians are animals who do nothing but raise their children to hate Jews and to be martyrs. How do they have time to learn this and STILL become doctors and professors?

        This narrative is confusing. So they’re not animals, they are professors and doctors. OK, then why can’t professors and doctors live life free from occupation?

        • giladg says:

          An apartheid system deprives those suffering from it access to many fields and opportunies. The Palestinians have, and have had, plenty of opportunity and access to services and education. They chose, by their own hand, to wage terror campaigns and war. Your gripe should be with them. Don’t buy into the apartheid lie. It has nothing to do with apartheid and destinay has been in Palestinian hands. However they have chosen to spread their fingers and allow peace and reconciliation to flow through and waste away.

        • Woody Tanaka says:

          “An apartheid system deprives those suffering from it access to many fields and opportunies.”

          Exactly as the Palestinians have experienced in various ways since 1947.

          The rest of your post is a string of lies, one after another. If the israelis wanted peace, rather than an ethnic fascist state, they would have accepted the Arab Peace Plan 10 years ago.

        • Mooser says:

          Ah giladg, glad you cleared that up for us! It’s good to get an objective opinion from a disinterested, yet so intimately informed source.

        • giladg says:

          The Saudi Plan, to which you refer, did not recognize that Jerusalem is as important to Jews as it is to anyone else. Israel will never accept a plan that shuts itself out its most holiest sites for Jews.

          The Palestinians in what you call the West Bank enjoy a far higher standard of living and education than the Blacks in apartheid South Africa ever did.
          What is happening in the “west bank” has nothing to do with apartheid. They use the buzzword word “apartheid” because those who ran the succesful campagain against South Africa, have told them to use the same tactics. They are trying to force a comparison when none should be made.
          If the Palestinians want to learn from the Blacks in South Africa, and they can learn a lot, then lookup the words “Reconciliation” and “Recognition”.

        • Sumud says:

          What is happening in the “west bank” has nothing to do with apartheid.

          Oh really…?

          Are West Bank illegal settlers and West Bank Palestinians ruled by the same legal system?

          Do West Bank illegal settlers and West Bank Palestinians have the same rights?

          Are West Bank illegal settlers and West Bank Palestinians permitted to vote in Israeli elections?

          No, on all three counts.

          Apartheid. The Crime of Apartheid.

        • Sumud says:

          If the Palestinians want to learn from the Blacks in South Africa, and they can learn a lot, then lookup the words “Reconciliation” and “Recognition”.

          Back to the rapist demanding the victim learn to love them before they will stop raping them.

          Tell me giladg – did the Truth and Reconciliation Commission in S. Africa occur before or after apartheid was abolished?

        • Woody Tanaka says:

          “The Saudi Plan, to which you refer, did not recognize that Jerusalem is as important to Jews as it is to anyone else.”

          Yes it does. It references UN GA Res. 194, which provides for protected and free access to the Holy Places for all groups.

          “Israel will never accept a plan that shuts itself out its most holiest sites for Jews.”

          Well, the Arab Peace Initiative doesn’t do that, so that excuse can go down the tubes.

          “in what you call the West Bank”

          LMAO. That’s what EVERYBODY (except a few Jewish terrorists) calls it.

          “They are trying to force a comparison when none should be made.”

          Again, I think that Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu are probably better judges of the appropriateness of the word than a perpetrator such as you.

          “If the Palestinians want to learn from the Blacks in South Africa, and they can learn a lot, then lookup the words ‘Reconciliation’ and ‘Recognition’.”

          I think that there should be a South African style Truth and Reconcilliation Committee where testimony can be taken about the human rights abuses which occurred and people like Netanyahoo who committed crimes against the Palestinians can come and make a plea for amnesty for their crimes. I see no problem with similar activities regarding any claims of crimes on the other side, as well.

        • RoHa says:

          “However they have chosen to spread their fingers and allow peace and reconciliation to flow through and waste away.”

          When did Israel ever offer peace and reconciliation to the Palestinians?

        • Shmuel says:

          If the Palestinians want to learn from the Blacks in South Africa, and they can learn a lot, then lookup the words “Reconciliation” and “Recognition”.

          Recognition? Of what? Of the Orange Free State as a “white and democratic state” or the “nation-state of the white Afrikaner people”?

        • Sumud says:

          It has nothing to do with apartheid and destinay has been in Palestinian hands.

          Total BS.

          People living under military occupation have no meaningful control over their lives, period. The same for refugees.

          And before we hear any more about how dreadful Palestinians are in comparison to black South Africans (a racist statement in itself) let us remember apartheid SA existed for only ~40 years. In comparison Palestinian oppression is into it’s seventh decade.

          AND – playing down this point is a staple of hasbara – Palestinians are entitled to use violence in self-defence. Israel always describes this as terrorism whether the targets are military or civilian – meanwhile for every Israeli child killed Israel kills *at least* 10 Palestinian children.

          giladg – why are Israelis so into killing children? It’s not even in self defence, just to perpetuate the occupation. To steal land. Evil.

        • Talkback says:

          giladg: “If the Palestinians want to learn from the Blacks in South Africa, and they can learn a lot, then lookup the words “Reconciliation” and “Recognition”.”

          Ashekenazi colonialists could learn from the Boers to give up Apartheid and give the land and control back to the natives which allready make up the majority in Palestine even if your junta keeps the expelles outside by force to maintain the Ashekenazi domination (which is Apartheid, too).

  8. Ellen says:

    If defensive and unhinged comments liked

    ” ravenous packs of feral humans has defended itself from the latter in four major conflicts and continues to do so on a daily basis as these animals…”

    Is the spirit of Israeli Zionism and this is what our billions per year sent to Israel support ( with congresswoman Shelly Capito Moore — R-WA– a Zionist defender) we are still in deep deep trouble.

    These things do not end well and it will be a disaster for Israel. When it finally blows up at a terrible cost to all, there will be the voices that the USA made Israel do it.

    Considering how much money gets pumped into Israel by the US for war, the argument will follow a sort of logic and stick.

  9. seafoid says:

    link to guardian.co.uk

    “Aid organisations working in the West Bank separately reported on Monday that 62 EU-funded projects such as housing, water cisterns and farm buildings had been demolished by Israeli security forces last year and a further 110 were at risk.
    The affected structures were financed by Britain, Ireland, France, the Netherlands, Poland and the European commission.
    The Israeli defence ministry is to seek court approval this week for the demolition of 12 communities for whom the UK government funded water cisterns and sanitation systems. The largely cave-dwelling communities are sited in an area Israel has designated a military zone.”

    But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands of Jews will join with you, never comes

    • gamal says:

      and when will tens of thousands of americans take to the streets to protest stuff like this closer to home so to speak

      link to channel4.com

      liberals are pretty small beer, pace Falstaff, we need some sack.

      also as i see the great J Slater is posting anodyne one liners i thought of this which some may find interesting, just war and jihad.

      link to claremont.academia.edu

  10. Kathleen says:

    From Athens Ohio to Columbus to Charleston West Virginia etc etc awareness about the apartheid nation of Israel is growing. Tutu has been out on the front lines of this issue for quite awhile. Brave risk taker for decades.

    Yet we continue to have MSNBC host of Morning Joe and so many other MSM outlets kiss Israel’s and the I lobbies collective behinds over and over again. Anyone hear Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough kiss the mayor of Jerusalems ass on Morning Joe on Monday?

  11. I am encouraged by this, increasing stories in the MSM, even if they are slanted and despite the human rights absues, try to blame Palestinians and paint Israel as a victim. We have much new work to do now, to go to these online stories, the websites, and post comments, to confront the ignorance and distortions and lies, to comment to the misinformed/ignorant and/or bigoted posters, to inform them about the truth about what is going on in Israel/Palestine. We do not have to let these distorted posts just stand there alone and not responded to, we can confront the injustices, the lies, with truth.

    I have been following one MSNBC article and posting comments, about Bilal Diab. One problem with posting comments there, that I am experiencing, when I try to post a link in a comment, when my post appears the link is gone. But, an encouraging point, my posts are not being censored there, so far anyway.

  12. Kathleen says:

    West Virginians have been dealing with a very serious type of oppression of their own for decades. Timber, coal, mountain top removal, power plants industry have taken advantage of this area for decades. Over the last 30 years the tourist industry(Snowshoe etc) have replaced some of the oppressive extraction industries with low paying jobs. A huge history in West Virginia of fat cats paying poor wages, low taxes and taking their wealth elsewhere . Although back in the long for fought for hard core union days it was different.
    They know about oppression. If the facts get out about what has been going on in the I/P conflict for decades other oppressed people should be able to relate

    • Ellen says:

      West Virginians keep electing the same corrupt representatives. Arch Moore, governor and power broker decades while stealing from west virginians until he finally went to the Pen for some months. But used the down time to get his Daughter into Congress, and is now (even in his weakened state) pushing that she run for a senate seat. She has a good chance. Name recognition and all those years of bilking the state to fill the coffers.

      No different from third world politics.

  13. Talkback says:

    I like this comment: “Israel has sovereign rights in the West Bank by Right of Conquest.”

    “Right of Conquest”. His mind is stuck in 1939. LOL.

    • Mooser says:

      ““Right of Conquest”. His mind is stuck in 1939. LOL.”

      Are you sure you’re giving him enough credit? Didn’t the first Geneva Convention take place in 1864?

      • Talkback says:

        It did, Mooser. But this is about the “right of conquest” which was (only gradually before, but) finally abandoned after the Nuremberg Trials and internationally implemented in the UN charter. No?