(Image: The Alternative Information Center)
Yesterday the Alternative Information Center (AIC) published an excerpt of an Israel civics exam in which a sample piece of writing instructs “the daughters of Israel” to steer clear of Arab men so as to avoid “violence for nationalistic reasons” and “harm [to] the Jewish majority of the state.”
AIC found the exam after an Israeli teacher posted it on Facebook. AIC’s translation of the civics exam question:
‘The wives of rabbis published a letter calling on daughters of Israel not to hang around with Arabs. There are those who support this letter and those who think it’s not appropriate. Express your opinion about the letter. In your answer, present two reasons and explain using concepts you learned in civics.’
The preparatory exam further provides a sample response in support of the aforementioned letter:
‘I support the letter of the wives of rabbis.
1. If the daughters of Israel will hang around with Arabs, they are liable to have relationships and marry them. This would harm the Jewish majority of the state.
If the daughters of Israel will hang around with Arabs, they are liable to fall victims of violence for nationalistic reasons. This would harm their right to life and security.
Content in the civics exam falls under the jurisdiction of Israel’s ministry of education, headed by Likud’s Gideon Sa’ar. Earlier this year Sa’ar was criticized by teachers for spearheading “Ascending to Hebron,” a field trip program to the West Bank. In January, 200 Israeli educators sent a letter to Sa’ar condemning the Hebron “heritage tours”: “Introducing the program to schools is a manipulative use of pupils and teachers, who will be forced to become political pawns. Since we’re dedicated to education, our conscience prevents us from becoming agents of such a policy.”
Just these 2 answers Allison?
Where are the rest , and what are they?
This is not a part of an official exam sanctioned by the State of Israel
this is taken from a privately published book that is used to prepare students
for such an exam, these books as the original Harretz article explains are also don’t always get sanctioned by the department of education.
A clarification .
If indeed these are the only 2 choices of answers that exist then this really does smell badly of racism and should be corrected.
This is not a part of an official exam sanctioned by the State of Israel
Except that State-funded schools in Israel do have programs to teach Jewish girls not to date Arabs. See the following video:
link to haaretz.com
Also, the State of Israel pays the salaries of the about 50 rabbis who have called on their followers not to rent houses to Arabs.
Israel is a racist state and the school primers accurately reflect that reality.
“If indeed these are the only 2 choices of answers that exist then this really does smell badly of racism and should be corrected.”
And anybody who thinks that statement by “OlegR” doesn’t completely solve the problem is nothing but a goddammed anti-Semite! After all, OlegR said it “should be corrected.”
Streicher’s notorious anti-Semitic children’s book Der Giftpilz was not a governmental production. It was published by Streicher’s private Stürmerverlag.
As a matter of fact, Reich Propaganda Minister Goebbels didn’t even like the book:
Does that mean the book doesn’t tell us anything about Nazi Germany?
In Der Giftpilz (The Poisonous Mushroom), the German children learned that Jewish children are taught “Non-Jews have been created to work and serve Jews…” –so there’s some outspoken orthodox Israeli rabbis that should love that kiddie book? See article at link to nizkor.org
“Non-jews have been created to work and serve jews”….
This is what the Talmud says and only recently the chief rabbi of Jerusalem said the same in public!!
It seems the nazis just repeated those sentiments.
In Der Giftpilz , a Jewish boy is taught by a rabbi that, among other negative things about the Gentiles–as preparation for his bar mistvah. The kiddie book specifically attributes the lesson to the Talmud. And the rabbi is portrayed as a Talmud scholar.
On the contents of Der Giftpilz:
link to docs.google.com
“If the daughters of Israel will hang around with Arabs, they are liable to have relationships and marry them. This would harm the Jewish majority of the state.”
Oleg, as an Israeli can you tell us just what the Arab daughters of Israel are meant to do?
Oleg
Do you understand how this sort of thing looks to a goy audience?
Would it honestly make a difference if there were 94 other answers and they all related to how important it is to be nice?
Here are some more considered answers, OlegR:
3. But we are nice for gays.
4. But Hitler loved his dog.
5. The rabbis should speak by themselves. Are they not allowed to talk to women?
6. We shall never forgive not forget that the arabs did Auschwitz to us.
Answer 3 – They will push us into the sea
answer 4 – Max Brenner chocolate, the world’s best from Israel – don’t share it with the goys, girlies and eat it when your self esteem is low but remember no matter how bloated you feel afterwards you’ll never be as low as an Arab
@OlegR: To be a “Jewish Israeli” is to have racial and colonial privileges over the indigenous Palestinian people; at least 30 racist, supremacist laws within “Israel” solidify and uphold these privileges.
I wonder what intellectual Jewish teenagers think reading this sort of crap in exams.
It’s not by accident that there are so few marriages between Jews and palestinians or that villages promoting coexistence are targeted.
This was the Ha’aretz report
They downgraded it from an exam to a study aid. Hmmn
link to haaretz.com
A primer for the civics matriculation (bagrut ) exam that was administered Monday suggested as an answer to a practice question that “the association of Jewish girls with Arabs is liable to undermine their right to life and security.”
The book, published by Reches Educational Projects, is one of many such volumes pupils use to prepare for the exams. These primers are popular because they review specific topics that the Education Ministry has announced will be tested in a given subject.
In this volume there is a sample question that presents the following topic for pupils to address:
“A recently published letter, written by the wives of rabbis, calls on Jewish girls to keep their distance from Arabs. There are those who support this letter, while there are others who argue that the letter is improper.”
The pupils are asked to express their opinion on the issue and back their opinion up with two arguments based on concepts in civics.
As part of a correct answer in support of the letter, the book suggests the following argument: “Jewish girls associating with Arabs is liable to lead to romantic relationships and even to marriage. This assimilation of Jewish girls with members of the Arab minority will undermine the preservation of a Jewish majority in the State of Israel.”
As a second argument it suggests: “Jewish girls associating with Arabs is liable to endanger their safety for nationalist reasons, and is liable to undermine their right to life and security.”
Privately published bagrut primers do not have the approval of the Education Ministry, but nevertheless they often find their way into the classroom as study and teaching aids.
A civics coordinator for Arab schools in the Galilee Triangle region called the sample question and answer “An insult to the whole subject of civics. This is clear incitement against us, Arab citizens, who in civics classes teach coexistence with Jews.”
Keren Stein, one of the primer’s authors, said that the answers in the book were “samples whose sole intention was to demonstrate how to write an argument; there was no intent to insult any population in Israel.”
and how about this reader comment ?
Tell me something Lauren
By Danny 13 Jun 2012 02:40PM
Are you a Jewess? If yes would you want your daughter to marry an Arab or non-Jew for that matter? Before you scream racism think about it as a parent first and foremost . Your answer might change how you view the letter.
Everyone knows that you must keep the Aryan women away from Jewish men, otherwise how can you keep the Aryan blood pure??
Everyone knows that you must keep the white women away from black men, otherwise how can you keep the white race pure??
Everyone knows that you must keep the Jewish women away from Arab men, otherwise how can you keep the Jewish blood pure??
The song remains the same…
It’s such a tragedy that Lenny Bruce is no longer with us.- He would have destroyed Zionism from the stage
link to youtube.com
You are a white. The Imperial Wizard. Now, if you don’t think this is logic you can burn me on the fiery cross. This is the logic: You have the choice of spending fifteen years married to a woman, a black woman or a white woman. Fifteen years kissing and hugging and sleeping real close on hot nights. With a black, black woman or a white, white woman. The white woman is Kate Smith. And the black woman is Lena Horne. So you’re not concerned with black or white anymore, are you? You are concerned with how cute or how pretty. Then let’s really get basic and persecute ugly people!
Kate Smith was white? I never knew that, but come to think of it, I’ve never (that I remember) seen a picture of her, just heard her voice on many recordings. Oh well, live and learn.
Well, no matter what her extraction, great numbers like “(You ain’t Nothin’ But a) Hound Dog” and “Gimme a Pigsfoot and a Bottle of Beer” will live forever.
MOOSER- “Kate Smith was white?”
You also may not be aware that she changes her name. It used to be Kate Mooserowsky, which partly explains her love of R & B and motorcycles.
There are, I am discovering, an inordinate, a prodigious, a nearly infinite number of “Smiths” extant at this time. I mean, try Googling it sometime! How on earth do they tell each other apart? If you ever come across somebody who’s never seen a plethora ,well, just open the phone book to “Smith” and say “There’s your plethora, my friend” . If “plethora” is the word I’m thinking of, that is. And if it isn’t, and it has any prejorative or erotic meanings, I apologise.
Mooser
there is a picture of her towards the end of this video
link to youtube.com
Several Irish families originally named “McGowan” changed their name to “Smith” (“gabha” is Gaelic for “blacksmith”).
A lot of German families named “Schmidt” changed (or had changed) their name to “Smith” once they came to America.
Here’s a very white-looking Kate Smith, singing to black children, using a quaint endearing term for them now taboo: link to youtube.com
BTW: According to Wiki, Lena Horne descended from the John C. Calhoun family, both sides of her family were a mixture of European American, Native American, and African American descent.
Racism
It started with a warning in Germany. And it was followed by a law which forbade intermarriage.
Israel of course learned from the Holocaust. Intermarriage (“Rassenschande”) is legally impossible in Israel.
It’s like a deal with the devil. To preserve whatever they define as Judaism you have to give up your sense of decency and fairness.
The effort that goes into maintaining this system and keeping everyone in line must be monumental. I presume course 101 is “why everyone hates us”
Well, for one thing their sample answer sucked. It just parroted back the original letter. For another thing, if what Oleg says is true, this would be like getting upset at the SAT people over a racist question in an SAT prep book that isn’t sanctioned by the SAT people.
Personally, I love it when those world class frauds show themselves to have feet of clay.
It’s just too easy, but from Wikipedia re The Nuremberg Laws:
” The first law, The Law for the Protection of German Blood and German Honour,[24] prohibited marriages and extramarital intercourse between “Jews” (the name was now officially used in place of “non-Aryans”) and “Germans” and also the employment of “German” females under forty-five in Jewish households.”
link to en.wikipedia.org
From The Jewish Virtual Library:
“The Nuremberg Laws by their general nature formalized the unofficial and particular measures taken against Jews up to 1935. The Nazi leaders made a point of stressing the consistency of this legislation with the Party program which demanded that Jews should be deprived of their rights as citizens. ”
link to jewishvirtuallibrary.org
I hate referencing show tunes [of all things!], but from “South Pacific” [I think] it looks painfully obvious that some Israelis habe been Carefully Taught.
What next, I wonder? Will Israeli’s Xtian and Moslem citizens be forced to wear yellow crucufixes and yellow stars and cresents? And what about the hapless occupiees in the West Bankl? What further indignities do Bibi & company have in store? Stay tuned kids.
Real Big Sigh.
Good book on antimiscegenation laws in the U.S.: What Comes Naturally: Miscegenation Law and the Making of Race in America.
Well, I agree with the wives of the rabbis.
The Dutch have a saying from their colonial days:
“Tween culturen up eene kissen
da is de devil zwischen.”
Two cultures on one pillow – there is the devil between them.
Isn’t that so?
I think the Dutch saying was originally about religions. Geloof = Glaube. Twee geloven op een kussen, daar komt (slaapt) de duivel tussen.
Thanks for the research lysias. I was told the saying – with ‘cultures’ – by a Dutchman. (I just remembered it verbally, I don’t know how to write Dutch properly.)
@ Lysias. You are right: it’s about religions, meant to scare the shit out of anybody dreaming of marrying the ‘wrong’ religion. So surely that devil must have had a great time – but no longer. Nowadays most Dutch are secular.
@ Klaus. Geert Wilders?
@ Klaus. Geert Wilders?
not too far off: I agree with the wives of the rabbis.
“Two cultures on one pillow – there is the devil between them.”
That’s not the Devil, that’s just Dora.
If it’s not the devil but Dora (= Dorothea or Theodora, meaning “God’s Gift”), the saying must indeed be about two religions on one pillow.
Dorothea meaning “God’s Gift”
Oh crap! My name means “god’s gift”!? But I’m an atheist.
Look at my name and watch what you say about my family!!!
I have a Ph.D. in classical philology, but I have no idea why Greek reverses the word order in “Theodoros” and “Dorothea”.
God speaks to his children:
Christians, I have sent my son to show you a few trick that not even Houdini could match.
Jews; I gave you a piece of land, but it doesn´t mean I will like you forever.
Moslems, you are out of luck!! There are no virgins in heaven with all those horny angels around, they get all virgins and mooser anything else.
Dora has, praise the Lord, decided she can sleep at the foot of the bed, instead of between us, under the covers. I guess she’s given up on preventing nocturnal inter-cultural and religious transmission between us. But then, as a purebred, she abhors all kinds of mongrelisation.
are you sure you posted this comment to the right website?
Did you see what the Israelis did immediately after they captured East Jerusalem in 1967?
link to haaretz.com
“A few days after the Six-Day War, Israel destroyed the Mughrabi quarter to build the Western Wall Plaza, including one of few remaining mosques from the time of Saladin.
the school, or madrassa, was located where the Western Wall Plaza is now. But the remains of the building were dismantled by the Israel Antiquities Authority, which did not realize its importance.
The school, known as the Afdiliyeh, was named after el-Malik al-Afdil, one of the sons of Saladin, who conquered Jerusalem in 1187. According to a 15th-century document, al-Afdil built the school in Jerusalem’s Mughrabi quarter.
Eventually it became known as the Sheikh Eid Mosque, after a leader of the North African community that inhabited the quarter. The sheikh was buried there in the 17th century, after which the mosque became a place of pilgrimage.
A few days after the Six-Day War, Israel destroyed the Mughrabi quarter to build the Western Wall Plaza. The destruction included the mosque – one of only three or four remaining from the time of Saladin.
“It was an archaeological crime,” said Benjamin Kedar, a historian and vice president of the National Academy of Sciences”
Here is Zionist bullshit history in a nutshell
“Western Wall Heritage Foundation, which manages the nearby Western Wall Tunnel, responded: “Excavations in the area of the Western Wall are intended to reach the earliest levels possible. Clearly this cannot be done without destroying later periods, whatever they may be”
Zionism is cultural barbarism
The Jewish experience of cultural vandalism
link to m.chabad.org
On the 29th day of Tammuz, in the year 4865, Rashi passed away. Rashi, however, continues to live in his works which are studied by all the students of the Talmud Torahs and Yeshivoths, and by the adult scholars too.
For hundreds of years there stood the ancient Beth Hamidrash in Worms in which Rashi used to learn. In it stood the ancient stone chair upon which he used to sit. Many people would come and look with awe upon these ancient relics. But in the beginning of the month of Teveth in the year 5698 (1937) some vandals set it on fire and destroyed it.
Thirty years later it was Zionists who were the vandals.
jesse is god’s gift
link to en.wikipedia.org
“Two cultures on one pillow – there is the devil between them.
Isn’t that so?”
If you prefer incest to intermarriage, Klaus, just come out and say so. It’s not like anybody will be shocked or anything.
I prefer incest?
Don’t try to outsmart me, Mooser. My English and wit may not be that of H.L. Menken – but I’m of German stock, as Menken was. So I of course believe in German inner-marriage, to keep the German stock pure. (Alas, my sister married a Frenchman. And on top of that a Frenchman whose family had been in the French resistance in WW II.)
By the way – how is the Hammering Man in Seattle doing? Does he still keep hammering? The one in Frankfurt does. (For those unfamiliar with the ‘Hammering Man’ – see Wikipedia.)
“German inner-marriage” (sic)
And they are spending on that tunneling machine on the Seattle waterfront.
Mooser – I have a friend who said he speaks three different languages.
I asked him: ‘What are the three languages?’
He replied: ‘Ironic, Sarcastic and Cynic.’ – That friend got to be you.
“Don’t try to outsmart me, Mooser.”
Believe me Klaus, I’ve never thought that was necessary.
Why of course, Mooser, everybody knows moose are very vain. Must be the antlers.
Mooser June 15, 2012 at 3:17 pm
.. tears of laughter
“everybody knows moose are very vain. Must be the antlers.”
As I have mentioned time and again, the palmate antlers drop off every year. One at a time! And alway, invariably and without fail at the most inopportune and humiliating moments. And still ponds give an umercifully accurate reflection. Good-bye vanity. Do you have to go through life with people pressing iodised salt on you? It’s a dewlap, dammit, not a goiter!
Two cultures on one pillow …
What makes them think that we want our boys (In my case 2) mixing with their girls?
“If the daughters of Israel will hang around with Arabs, they are liable to have relationships and marry them. This would harm the Jewish majority of the state.”
This is quite weird. To me, “daughters of Israel” is a Biblical term, so perhaps the question should be “Should daughters of Israel hang out with the seed of Ishmael”. This is does not sound right. I do not have electronic bible, but in the translations I know “hang out” is not used. “Should daughters of Israel go out to see daughters of Ishmael”? That would parallel Genesis:34:1. The concept that a daughter would go out to see BOYS… I kind of hear some warning rumblings in the sky.
So let us avoid the Wrath of the Lord and contemplate something less thunder-worthy, a Jewish girl going out with an Arab girl, and they do not proceed to Genesis:34:2, which could be detrimental to the “Jewish majority” as described in Genesis:34:30 (while some dispute it saying that Jacob was simply a ninny, the same sages argue that GoI are ninnies). What if the girls eat something that is halal but tref? Say, shrimp, camel’s milk, cheeseburger or shawarma with cheese?
But suppose that a daughter of Israel dons a chastity belt locked by her mother and takes a lunch box with her, can she go out with a daughter of Ishmael?
One thing’s for certain; someone better call the locksmith.
“But suppose that a daughter of Israel dons a chastity belt locked by her mother and takes a lunch box with her, can she go out with a daughter of Ishmael?”
That’s the spirit! There’s no reason why she should prepare herself differently for a date with a Muslim than she would for a date with a Jew!
“Should daughters of Israel go out to see daughters of Ishmael”?
Isn’t this where the good old Biblical “know” (it’s pronounced with a raised eyebrow) comes in?
Because there are different translations, I tried to adapt Genesis:34:1. A little Dinah went out to meet native girls “women of the land”. Meeting a native boy is in Genesis:34:2 and translations differ drastically. Serious mayhem follows.
My conclusion was that there is no such concept like “rape” in Torah. There are two kinds of sexual contact. The first is between a Jewish woman during her clean days and her Jewish husband. The second is everything else. And there are two types of casual contact of persons of different sexes. Inside family or arranged by the family, and everything else. A woman that can be casually approached by a strange man is a whore, so girls “hanging out” with boys is “haram”.
Because I do not know Hebrew I have only an approximate idea what the Rebetzins’ letter was about, but my bet is that it is about the dangers of daughters of Israel hanging out with OTHER girls as that may lead to emotional attachments with brothers of those OTHER girls. But perhaps in Hebrew “with Arabs” indicates also the gender of those Arabs.
A question for more theologically inclined: can a contact between women count as sex, and thus forbidden sex, in Torah? My impression was that there is no interest in Torah in what women are doing when they are not together with men.
I’ve never been any good at figuring out girls, but my guess is that this will make Arab men more attractive in the eyes of Jewish girls.
I read once in Haaretz that Jewish prostitutes are popular with Palestinian clients . They like the notion of control they can’t have anywhere else . Both the client and the woman are shafted by the system of course.
“I read once in Haaretz that Jewish prostitutes are popular with Palestinian clients . They like the notion of control they can’t have anywhere else”
If there’s one thing you can depend on Haaretz for, it’s a disinterested, objective and informed analysis of the motivations of Palestinian johns who use “Jewish prostitutes.” Me, I would take it with a couple grains kosher salt, but that’s just me.
‘Pure’ racism
It is interesting to note that the above text for the students doesn’t mention an argument against dating Arabs along the line of the Dutch saying: a marriage may not work because the religious-cultural difference is too great.
That means: all other things being equal – both are secular/non-observant, same education, same way of life etc. – still, they should not date and marry because they come from a different family-genepool. That’s racism in its purest form.
Klaus, do you have any idea how much sense that made?
Sure Klaus, does, Mooser. Here’s an American Jew fleshing out the details: link to thejewishreporter.com
“Sure Klaus, does, Mooser.”
Me, I’m with “justicewill prevail” in his comment below. If the Zionists had accepted “intermarriage” (the term itself is objectionable, of course) and not discouraged it, things would be very different today. And probably a hell of a lot better.
The end of this is easy to see, we’ve seen it elsewhere, but as usual with Zionists, long ago. Would not surprise me one bit if congenital defects which are the result of excessive consanguinity became status symbols in Israel. Proof of ‘pure Jewish blood’, you know.
Mooser, do you mean whether the “different family-genepool” idea makes sense or nonsense (although there is common cultural ground)?
I have thought hard about it but I can’t come up with an answer. You have to ask one of the “daughters of Israel”. In case you have one, ask her.
“I have thought hard about it but I can’t come up with an answer.”
Oh, you’re just being modest. I would think you came up with an answer out long ago, and are compassionate enough not to leave us wallowing in error.
BTW, you have the words “different family-genepool” enclosed in quotes. I looked all over the page and cannot see who you are quoting. Did I miss something, or are you just being witty?
A little tidbit from a piece I wrote in 2008 about Intel’s chip factory in Kiryat Gat, Israel:
Mmmmm….
Some Israelis seem to be particularly STUPID!
ALL the Jews from Arab States, were Arabs
Many of the Jews of Palestine were Arabs
Many Jews in the diaspora were/are Arabs
Talknic, you do not know what you are talking about.
Arabidopsis is the condition of being observably Arab, and Judeoscopy can identify Jews.
Jews are the seed of Abraham who got Covenant, and Arabs are also the seed of Abraham, but with no Covenants. The ranks of both group allow cooptation and departure. So one has to see if there is something like Apostolic Succession for Jews that would maintain their Jewishness (and Covenant in their alleged possession).
piotr June 16, 2012 at 6:03 am
“Arabidopsis is the condition of being observably Arab”
Oh … link to google.com.au
“and Judeoscopy can identify Jews”
Uh … link to google.com.au
What an excellent idea, Jewish girls marrying Palestinians and having families. Hard to think of a more positive move to end the bigotry and racism of the Jewish state. What are they scared of? They keep telling us that there is no discrimination and they will have equal rights. Jewishness is a cultural marker, not a ‘race’ anyway, so who are they to tell the girls what to do? Are they owned by the state, or do they have free, democratic choice amongst all the citizens?
Oh no justice, you see, in Israel, unlike anywhere else in the world, there’s nothing the new generations love more than being irrevocably bound, restricted, limited, and made fearful and hating by the conventions and mistakes of the older generation. Unlike the rest of the world’s bratty kids, Israeli youth knows they can offer no new solutions, can try no new way, and feel honored to go on defending and suffering for the mistakes of the previous generation. The thought that they are living in a world they did not make, and cannot make better just thrills them! And I’m sure the internet and other forms of world-wide communication only serves to bolster their sense of being in the right rut.