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‘After Zionism’ at the Frontline Club

After Zionism

Antony Loewenstein wrote about a discussion he participated in in Tel Aviv around our jointly edited anthology, After Zionism.

We were lucky enough to have an opportunity to speak about a one state future with Ghada Karmi and Dimi Reider in London recently. The Frontline Club – a journalistic hub – provided us with the venue while Tim Llewellyn (a former BBC journalist with expertise in the Middle East) moderated the discussion. 

In reality, the one-state solution is only an idea now – but the one-apartheid-state was our point of departure. Recognition of the fact that we’ve moved well beyond anything called “two states for two peoples” was the basis for our discussion.

The conversation was lively – but it could have been livelier. In other words, the four of us had few disagreements. Part of this had to do with the panel make-up, but I think it was also because we were speaking in London. The Palestine/Israel discussion in the UK (and Europe more broadly) has long been more open than that in the US. Facts are harder to argue against there.

Here is a video of the panel”


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so, clearly, the dynamic to the final status of a 1ss is the ruling question. another proposal could follow the example of Israel’s use of dual citizenship to attract Jewish loyalty from outside of Israel. In particular, it might be reasonable to consider the framework of dual citizenship (Israeli and ‘Palestinian’) for all the ‘settlers’ and all Palestinian citizens of Israel. Such an arrangement would bring in the natural self-interests of these two groups to pursue day-to-day dialogue and solutions within a conjoining of interests. From such an arrangement it might then be reasonable to move towards an actual one state based on a true democracy.

/Tim Llewellyn (a former BBC journalist with expertise in the Middle East) moderated the discussion. /

And promptly called Israel the Zionist entity.
Oh the BBC….

Completely ignored the Irish guy main point.
Let’s put the rose glasses and move on.

You guys don’t wear rose glasses, you wear blinkers supplied free by the “zionists entity”. And you love it!