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Jingoism: ‘those Muslims are so primitive they killed our ambassador over a movie’

Glenn Greenwald in the Guardian on the motivation behind the Libyan embassy attacks:

For one, the claim that this attack was just about anger over an anti-Muhammad video completely absolves the US government of any responsibility or even role in provoking the anti-American rage driving it. After all, if the violence that erupted in that region is driven only by anger over some independent film about Muhammad, then no rational person would blame the US government for it, and there could be no suggestion that its actions in the region – like this, and this, and this, and this – had any role to play. 

The White House capitalized on the strong desire to believe this falsehood: it’s deeply satisfying to point over there at those Muslims and scorn their primitive religious violence, while ignoring the massive amounts of violence to which one’s own country continuously subjects them. It’s much more fun and self-affirming to scoff: “can you believe those Muslims are so primitive that they killed our ambassador over a film?” than it is to acknowledge: “our country and its allies have continually bombed, killed, invaded, and occupied their countries and supported their tyrants.” 

It is always more enjoyable to scorn the acts of the Other Side than it is to acknowledge the bad acts of one’s own. That’s the self-loving mindset that enables the New York Times to write an entire editorial today purporting to analyze Muslim rage without once mentioning the numerous acts of American violence aimed at them (much of which the Times editorial page supports). Falsely claiming that the Benghazi attacks were about this film perfectly flattered those jingoistic prejudices.

P.S. I’ve left out Greenwald’s critique of the US intervention in Libya as contributing to that rage. Yes because I supported it; and don’t regret that support; and sense that there’s pro-American feeling in Libya on that basis.

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Talk about symbols evoking an irrational reaction

I’d like to see someone try and burn an American flag again.

Just so we can have a reality check.

How about uttering the words in a favorable tone, Sharia Law, Obama Care, Socialism, and so many others.

What is that parable about riding on the back of crocodiles and ending up inside?

The attack on the Embassy in Benghazi was revenge for the killing of a Libyan Al Qaeda fighter in Pakistan. This chap fought *with* the US in Libya to help oust Ghaddafi, and then a US drone killed him off in Pakistan.

Don’t believe the hype about the islamophobic video being the root cause, it’s just a smokescreen so that Americans don’t understand the real issue – that the US will bed down with ANYBODY – even Al Qaeda fighters – if it helps them achieve their goals. Which are only ever short-term.

Blowback.

CS Monitor: Libyan attack on embassy: an al-Qaeda connection?

The most recent massacre in USA was occasioned by the premiere of new Batman movie. If we concentrate on outliers in another culture for the sake of a comparison, we have to pull out outliers in our culture too. As one Israeli complained, we had many reports on the “lynches” in Jerusalem and vicinity, but nobody reported how many times Jews and Arabs in Israel coexist peacefully and even amicably. Best known incidents are outliers.

Only when we acknowledge that, we can think how outlying the outliers are, is there a continuum between respected intellectual or political movements and the outliers.
After all, sociopaths are usually using ideas that are propagated by more mentally stable and respected individuals. Moreover, “the West” is a cultural hegemon, so when bad stuff happens, it is worth asking “did we legitimize this stupid idea”?

One can consider examples like the killing of Count Bernadotte, American troops arresting Iranian diplomats and keeping them in detention for years (are envoys sacrosanct according to what we do?), killing with drones where we have no permission to do so etc.

Didn’t G. W. Bush state that we were attacked on 9/11 because of our freedoms? Seemed to fly then so the movie as the root cause fits the continuing narrative. But really, what does that say about us?

RE: “I’ve left out Greenwald’s critique of the US intervention in Libya as contributing to that rage. Yes because I supported it; and don’t regret that support. . . ” ~ Weiss

MY COMMENT: I initially supported it as well, but very soon afterwards I began to very much regret it after seeing the way the U.S. and its allies flagrantly, grotesquely, and shamelessly abused the UN Security Council resolution on Libya (authorizing member states to establish and enforce a no-fly zone) in order to instead pursue their own “regime change” agenda.
Frankly, it was disturbingly reminiscent (perhaps not entirely coincidentally**) of Israel’s “intervention” in Lebanon in the summer of 1982.*
Consequently, as I see it, the U.S. and its NATO allies absolutely cannot be trusted to intervene in Syria in a responsible manner. Because the U.S and its NATO allies so badly abused R2P in regards to Libya (much like they abused the right to defend themselves by invading Iraq), I simply cannot support any intervention under any circumstances on their part no matter how seemingly deserving the purported beneficiaries of such intervention might be.

* FROM WIKIPEDIA [Lebanese Civil War]:

(excerpt) . . . Israel launched Operation Peace for Galilee on 6 June 1982, attacking PLO bases in Lebanon. Israeli forces quickly drove 25 miles (40 km) into Lebanon, moving into East Beirut with the tacit support of Maronite leaders and militia. When the Israeli cabinet convened to authorize the invasion, Sharon described it as a plan to advance 40 kilometers into Lebanon, demolish PLO strongholds, and establish an expanded security zone that would put northern Israel out of range of PLO rockets. In fact, Israeli chief of staff Rafael Eitan and Sharon had already ordered the invading forces to head straight for Beirut, in accord with Sharon’s blueprint dating to September 1981. . .
. . . By 15 June 1982, Israeli units were entrenched outside Beirut. The United States called for PLO withdrawal from Lebanon, and Sharon began to order bombing raids of West Beirut, targeting some 16,000 PLO fedayeen who had retreated into fortified positions. . .
. . . The fighting in Beirut killed more than 6,700 people of whom the vast majority were civilians. . .

** SEE: “Good career move by Susan Rice”, by Philip Weiss, Mondoweiss, 1/25/12

[EXCERPTS] We don’t make this up. I wish it wasn’t true, but it is. Susan Rice is ambassador to the U.N. but she has her sights on Secretary of State, and so she has made friends in the American Jewish community. Laura Rozen has the incisive report at Yahoo: “UN envoy Susan Rice addresses interest groups, in move some see advancing Secretary of State bid.”
An unfortunate headline. There’s really just one interest group here. And I guess that group is essential to any American diplomatic career. Ask Dennis Ross. . .

SOURCE – https://mondoweiss.mystagingwebsite.com/2012/01/shrewd-susan-rice-has-made-herself-an-ambassador-to-american-jewish-community.html

P.S. ALSO SEE: “America Adopts the Israel Paradigm”, by Philip Ghiraldi, Antiwar.com, 7/05/12
LINK – http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/07/04/america-adopts-the-israel-paradigm/