Family of teenager killed in Hebron calls fake gun story a ‘fabrication’

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Funeral of Mohammed Salayme. (Photo: Ammar Awad/Reuters)

New details have emerged on the murder of 17-year old Mohammed Salayme that took place last night in Hebron, casting doubt on the Israeli investigation that determined the youth threatened a border policeman with a toy gun. His family, speaking in detail to press for the first time today, said that Salayme was not carrying a plastic weapon at all and allege the story was a “fabrication,” by the Israeli military. From Agence France-Presse (AFP):

Salayma’s uncle, Nasser, told AFP that the Israeli version of his nephew’s death was a ‘fabrication.’

‘The plastic gun story isn’t true and it is all fabrication,’ he said. Other relatives said Salayma was on his way to buy a birthday cake when the incident took place.

‘Yesterday was his birthday and he celebrated it at school and was going to celebrate at home, but it never happened,’ Nasser al-Salayma said.

Initially, Israeli media was quick to label Salayme a “terrorist” armed with an actual gun. Today the Times of Israel noted “Even Haaretz, which normally doesn’t miss a chance to highlight abuses of power by Israel’s armed forces, has a headline that says the Palestinian ‘attacked’ the Border Police officer, presumably by pointing the fake gun.” These stories followed similar reports from Palestinian news networks that said Salayme was carrying a plastic gun.

Part of the confusion on the details stems from an Israeli military imposed “media blackout” when the area near the shooting was closed off. Some reporters covering the death were even fired upon, abused, arrested and hospitalized. According to the International Solidarity Movement, four journalists were forced out of their car, made to strip down to their underwear and then beaten, before being turned away by the Israeli military:

The Israeli military closed off all the streets around the area where Mohammed was killed to prevent any journalists from reaching the incident. A car carrying four journalists was hit with several rounds of live ammunition and the journalists were stopped and forced from their car. The journalists, two from Youth Against Settlements, one from Reuters and one from Palmedia were forced to strip to their underwear in the cold evening air. The soldiers took their cameras and physically beat up the journalists resulting in them needing hospital treatment. A filmmaker who works for the Israeli peace group B’tselem who lives close to the shooting was surrounded by 12 soldiers, beaten up and arrested. Officers from the District Coordination Office For Military Affairs informed local activists the cameras would be returned to them tomorrow after being checked for evidence.

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Photo released by Israeli border police of the solider, “N”
who killed Mohammed Salayme. (Photo: Jerusalem Post)

Following the first reports of Salayme’s death, pictures of the soldier accused of killing the youth circulated on social media, identifying the officer as Nofar Mizrahi (age 19 according to Israel Hayom). While the Israeli military censor forbids releasing the name and image of the soldier, today the Israeli press published pixilated photos of the soldier —otherwise matching those shared on Facebook— under the pseudonym “N.”

Nofar Mizrahi
Image circulating on Facebook of Nofar Mizrahi, alleged name/image of soldier responsible for killing Mohammed Salayme on 12 December 2012.

 The Jerusalem Post reported the young soldier was “content” that she killed Salayme, stating it was inconsequential that he did not have a real weapon, or pose a real threat:

It didn’t change it for me, because in those same moments you don’t have time to think or be confused. For me it was a real pistol in every sense of the word pointed at my soldier and it’s my responsibility to act, because if I don’t kill him my friend will be killed, and I won’t let this happen.

Continuing, “N” said she was “happy” no soldiers were hurt during the moments when she fired a half dozen bullets into the unarmed teenager:

After they investigated the incident it turned out it was a fake gun, but it didn’t change how I felt about it. I’m happy this ended with no injuries on our side and I’m sure any other officer in my situation would have done what I did.

Around 2,000 people attended Salayme’s funeral this afternoon in Hebron. After the procession Ma’an News Agency reported clashes again broke out between Palestinians and the IDF. And “Israeli forces prevented them[the deceased's family] from burying Muahmmad in the al-Raas cemetery next to their home as it is close to an Israeli settlement, Kiryat Arba.”

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  1. marc b.
    December 13, 2012, 2:25 pm

    so this is looking more and more like some psy-op d*ck saving measure taken for the benefit of the fragile israeli psyche after the humiliation at kafr qaddum.

    • Annie Robbins
      December 13, 2012, 2:36 pm

      for the benefit of the fragile israeli psyche after the humiliation at kafr qaddum.

      yep: link to 972mag.com

    • Boston
      December 14, 2012, 9:05 am

      Look at what the Zionists have done to their own children. The soldier who murdered Mohammed Salayme is no more than a child herself. Now she kills the “other” (she looks like the other herself) with no hint of guilt

  2. justicewillprevail
    December 13, 2012, 2:27 pm

    Jesus, what a degraded, corrupted sick society Israel has become. No event, however callous or inhumane, no catalogue of crimes against defenceless human beings whose crime is apparently to exist in the ‘wrong’ place, penetrates their hideously arrogant conviction that they can do whatever they please, treat others with astounding contempt and abuse, and then deny everything. If occupation corrupts, it has corrupted absolutely.

  3. Annie Robbins
    December 13, 2012, 2:38 pm

    allison is on fire this week.

  4. Kathleen
    December 13, 2012, 3:55 pm

    So Nofar is another cold blooded Israeli killer. And she is “pleased” cold cold blooded indeed. This could end up a the ICC..let’s hope. The fact that the four journalist were’fired upon, abused, arrested and hospitalized” sounds like they would make some important witnesses

  5. pabelmont
    December 13, 2012, 5:35 pm

    Whenever the Israelis IOF works so very., vey hard to prevent impartial witnesses from seeing what it has done, I take that as ipso facto proof that it has done evil. Beating and shooting at reporters is evil per se. Until I read this, I didn’t know about all this witness-prevention stuff and I believed the fake-gun story. That was then. I don’t believe it for a moment now. This was out-and-out murder by a trigger-happy soldier (perhaps proving her “macho” creds to the men) and part and parcel of Israel’s casually negative approach to Palestinian life.

    To this I would add that this story happening in Hebron, of all places, makes it even worse, for if Israel had not violated international law by allowing Israelis to live there — in terrible and daily friction with the Palestinians who live there — this episode might well never have taken place.

    In other words, this killing seems to me what much American law calls “felony murder”, that is a killing which is transformed — if need be — into murder by the fact that it is taking place as part of a major crime (felony), here the very major crime of settlement-of-Hebron.

    • Annie Robbins
      December 13, 2012, 7:22 pm

      pabelmont, i remember in iraq when the US adopted a policy of not allowing journos or inspectors near an explosion or attack for awhile (can’t recall how long) on the grounds it would taint the evidence or something. they also arrested a bbc photojournalist for months (i think it was bbc) and wouldn’t explain why. i think they should release the video. i am sure all the checkpoints have surveillance.

    • GilGamesh
      December 13, 2012, 11:48 pm

      really here is a video provided by B’Tselem showing the events after the shooting that in no way show anyone preventing witness’ and totally contradicting ISM’s claims of what took place after the shooting.

      • Annie Robbins
        December 13, 2012, 11:59 pm

        i heard it took 2 hrs for an ambulance to arrive and he bled to death. a short clip during that time demonstrates nothing. it doesn’t prove journos were prevented from entering that area. how much time elapsed before that van arrived?

        link to mondoweiss.net

        Israeli soldiers punched two Reuters cameramen and forced them to strip in the street, before letting off a tear gas canister in front of them, leaving one of them needing hospital treatment.

        Israel’s military said on Thursday it took the allegations seriously, but offered no explanation for the assault that occurred on Wednesday evening in the heart of Hebron.

        “The regional brigade commander was ordered to open an investigation,” Israeli Defense Forces spokeswoman Avital Leibovich said in an email. No further information will be provided until the investigation is complete.

        Yousri Al Jamal and Ma’amoun Wazwaz said a foot patrol stopped them as they were driving to a nearby checkpoint where a Palestinian teenager had just been shot dead by an Israeli border guard.

        Their car was clearly marked ‘TV’ and they were both wearing blue flak jackets with ‘Press’ emblazoned on the front.

        The soldiers forced them to leave the vehicle and punched them, striking them with the butts of their guns. They accused them of working for an Israeli NGO, B’Tselem, which documents human rights violations in the occupied West Bank, the Reuters cameramen said.

        …..

        The soldiers did not let the men produce their official ID papers and forced them to strip down to their underwear, making them kneel on the road with their hands behind their heads, the cameramen said.

        Two other Palestinian journalists working for local news organizations, including a satellite television station affiliated to the Islamist group Hamas, were also stopped and forced to the ground.

        One of the soldiers then dropped a tear gas canister between the men and the IDF patrol ran away. The four journalists scrambled clear and Jamal and Wazwaz got to their car, which had rapidly filled up with tear gas, they said.

        link to haaretz.com

        another video for you: link to youtube.com

      • GilGamesh
        December 14, 2012, 12:32 am

        gee Annie I heard it took much less time for the ambulance to arrive, and Allison’s story claimed the journalists were shot at first remember that.
        and even if my evidence only show a limited time period you have provided zero evidence to counter it.
        then for some reason you post a video that is totally unrelated to this incident.
        shall I look for a picture of the Shabarro Pizza Shop bombing?

        And still I wait for the explanation as to why the soldiers quote was fabricated by Allison and why the Rueters report contradicts Allison’s claims that the car with the reporters were shot at.

      • justicewillprevail
        December 14, 2012, 5:16 am

        It’s clearly related to the incident. You will have a long wait, since your ‘claims’ are pure smokescreen, contain no evidence and are mere hearsay. Fail.

      • Annie Robbins
        December 14, 2012, 5:33 am

        gil, that you missed the point of my video (internet killed israeli PR) is not surprising. as time goes on more evidence will emerge. at this stage it’s too early to speculate an accurate timeline based on rumors and iof spin. what we can speculate from b’tselem’s video is 3:23 minutes worth of accurate data of events occurring in the immediate vicinity of the victim’s body.

        if my evidence only show a limited time period you have provided zero evidence to counter it.

        i have made no effort to counter the evidence provided in the video, why would i? but the video offers us no evidence of events happening in the radius outside the limited scope of one camera lens lasting 3:23 minutes.

      • GilGamesh
        December 14, 2012, 6:55 am

        which of my claim is smoke screen ? That Allison provided a fabricated quote? That the car containing the reporters was not fired upon? That B’teslem’s video of the scene totally contradicts the situation described by Allisons sources at ISM? I hope you are fairer about the justice you want to prevail then you are about what you consider evidence which seems only to be based on what you would like to believe is true.

      • GilGamesh
        December 14, 2012, 6:58 am

        the video I provided Annie counter your sources claim so if my B’tsleem video killed anyone’s PR it was yours

      • Annie Robbins
        December 14, 2012, 7:50 am

        gil, i linked to the haaretz article earlier and blockquoted it. here is more, same link:

        link to haaretz.com

        One of the soldiers then dropped a tear gas canister between the men and the IDF patrol ran away. The four journalists scrambled clear and Jamal and Wazwaz got to their car, which had rapidly filled up with tear gas, they said.

        They tried to drive away, but said they only got around 200 metres before they had to stop and exit the vehicle because of the choking gas. The soldiers then fired more tear gas in their direction.

        i completely fail to see how this event, happening to journalists on their way to the scene of the killing, is in anyway contradicted by a b’tselem’s video happening at the scene of the killing. allison’s report is excellent and timely. the haaretz report buttresses her excellent coverage as well as ISM’s report.

        as for your reference to my “sources claim”, that was an example of what i’ve ‘heard’. hence, like your allegations, it’s proof of nothing.

      • Kathleen
        December 14, 2012, 7:53 am

        With Israel the story always keeps changing with everything they do or say. So not surprised this story keeps changing. Have there been any eye witness testimonies from anyone other than Israeli’s/

      • justicewillprevail
        December 14, 2012, 10:02 am

        Your interpretation of Allison’s report is ludicrous, and bears no scrutiny. Allison provides multiple sources in an effort to understand what happened. Calling her a liar is not really an argument, just a cheap shot, your video link similarly proves nothing. Try harder if you want to be taken seriously, and provide some credible evidence instead of your own unsupported assertions.

      • talknic
        December 14, 2012, 4:58 am

        GilGamesh It’s very hard stop stop people from reaching the scene if they’re already at the scene. Unless of course in your ziocaine state you think he was the only person at the check point.

        The more you try the more pathetic you reveal yourself to be

  6. Avi_G.
    December 13, 2012, 6:23 pm

    Mickey Rosenfeld, the same spokesperson who told Allison Deger that Israel would not hesitate to wipe Gaza off the map, spun the incident as a case of self-defense on part of the Israeli thugs.

    Now, if that were truly the case, then why did the military find it necessary to detain journalists, strip them down to their underwear and impose a media blackout?

    That’s a rhetorical question.

    The soldier is simply another trigger happy fascist looking to teach Palestinians a lesson.
    ——————————————————————————————

    I wouldn’t be surprised if she killed Mr. Salayme because he was happy and joyous on this occasion (He was on his way to buy a birthday cake, after all. And Israel’s goal is to make Palestinian lives as miserable as possible).

    How often have we all come across a bitter and mean-spirited individual who couldn’t bear to see others happy and cheerful, especially if that individual was a racist scumbag?

    • MHughes976
      December 13, 2012, 7:36 pm

      Any Palestinian behaving as if (s)he has an inherent right to be in Palestine is a challenge and affront to the Zionist principle that no such right exists.

    • LanceThruster
      December 14, 2012, 12:22 pm

      It’s quite possible he was singled out specifically because it was his birthday (he did hand over his ID card). What better way to sow the seeds of despair than to turn an otherwise joyful occasion into a tragedy for Mohammed Salayme, his family, and the entire community?

      Mission accomplished!

  7. ThorsteinVeblen2012
    December 13, 2012, 6:26 pm

    Perhaps when the dust settles the final revision will show though he didn’t have a weapon he seemed to be reaching in his waistband for what looked like a weapon.

    A usual excuse given to gun down “urban youth” in America.

    For now they have actually revised upward saying the gun was not plastic but metal:

    link to theblaze.com

  8. mcohen
    December 13, 2012, 6:42 pm

    this is the 2nd time in 6 months a female border police woman has been involved in a shooting.

  9. LanceThruster
    December 13, 2012, 7:06 pm

    This is certainly not the image that comes to mind when thinking of the “faces of death.”

    But dead is dead no matter how photogenic those pulling the trigger are.

  10. Basilio
    December 13, 2012, 7:53 pm

    It is possible he had a plastic gun, and she assumed since he was Palestinian it was a real gun, but they were claiming and lying that he attacked someone. It looks like he didn’t, and she just started shooting at him.

    Basil

  11. gingershot
    December 13, 2012, 8:21 pm

    the banality of evil…

    she’s an Israeli hero because she followed Lieberman’s orders to get Israel some ‘face’ back

  12. eljay
    December 13, 2012, 9:43 pm

    The version of the story published in Israel Today is even more dramatic and heroic:

    The Palestinian man came to the Israeli army checkpoint outside the Cave of the Patriarchs, and handed over his ID card as requested. The female officer at the center of the scandal went inside to run a background check, and after returning found the Arab choking one of her soldiers and holding a hand gun to his head.

    Acting instinctively, the officer said she looked for a clean shot that would avoid hitting the other soldier. When such a shot presented itself, she took it.

    • Annie Robbins
      December 13, 2012, 10:33 pm

      right! he went out for a birthday cake and decided to choke a ‘border’ guard! makes total sense.

      • talknic
        December 13, 2012, 11:20 pm

        Mmmmm … A soldier trained in combat is over powered by a slightly built 17 yr old …

        The Israeli press “The Palestinian man “

      • Annie Robbins
        December 14, 2012, 5:45 am

        The Israeli press “The Palestinian man “

        and “the Arab,” both in the same paragraph.

        the Arab choking one of her soldiers and holding a hand gun to his head.

        the boy ‘chokes’ the soldier. much worse than a slap.

      • Woody Tanaka
        December 14, 2012, 8:49 am

        Of course “the Palestinian man” because it’s impossible to generate the knee-jerk, unthinking ritualized hate necessary for the continuation of the zionist project without sufficiently beastly opponent to hate out of racist fury.

    • Kathleen
      December 13, 2012, 10:36 pm

      She shot him six times. SIX TIMES

      • kalithea
        December 15, 2012, 9:28 am

        And every bullet carried her hate to his dying body, because HATE is what this crime was really about.

    • JennieS
      December 14, 2012, 9:44 pm

      Here is a quote from 972 quoting Yedioth Ahronoth’s coverage:

      In the accompanying story, N. describes how after she and her partner stopped Sleima, she went to get a form to fill out and “suddenly I heard them fighting. I saw the Palestinian knock the soldier down and point a pistol at him.” She tells how she “had no time to think, I had to act in a split second or my partner would have been hurt,” and it’s only afterward, near the end of the story this time, that the detail about the gun being a toy is mentioned.

      No hesitation, in a “split second” she found and took a safe shot. Such heroism!! or maybe terrorism.

  13. GilGamesh
    December 13, 2012, 10:30 pm

    She didn’t say she was content that she killed Salayme, she said content “with how she performed her duty. ” If the car that was carrying the journalist was being fired why hasn’t Rueters reported that? Oh and here is a picture of Salayme in front of the birthday cake his uncle said he was on his way to buy.
    link to english.al-akhbar.com

    more fine reporting from the folks at Mondoweiss.

    • Annie Robbins
      December 13, 2012, 10:40 pm

      that photo of the birthday cake is really a gamechanger/not link to mondoweiss.net

      in front of the birthday cake his uncle said he was on his way to buy.

      we published it already. do you have any source confirming when that photo (probably released by the family) was taken?

      i didn’t think so.

      • talknic
        December 13, 2012, 11:23 pm

        The photo is from earlier in the day at school link to translate.google.com.au!!%0A%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%85%20%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%85%20%D8%A8%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84%20%D8%B9%D9%8A%D8%AF%20%D9%85%D9%8A%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AF%20%D9%84%D9%87%20%D9%81%D9%8A%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%B3%D8%A9%20%D8%8C%20%D9%85%D8%B9%20%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A8%20%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%87%20!%0A%D9%88%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%85%20%D8%A5%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%AF%20!!!!

      • Annie Robbins
        December 14, 2012, 6:29 am

        The photo is from earlier in the day at school

        thanks talknic. actually i was aware that from researching source docs for the original report, found it here:

        link to twitter.com

        from that info, translating @yafaislam’s tweets from arabic immediately after the killing. i just knew gil didn’t know what he was talking about when he linked to a photo on al-akhbar.com that was first published on mondowiess the day before.

        here’s the boy talking to his brother after he was released from jail in the prisoner exchange and exiled from WB to gaza.

      • GilGamesh
        December 13, 2012, 11:37 pm

        oh now I see how it works. I need to provide a source that this photo was not taken in a previous year, but you guys can misquote the IDF soldier and provide zero evidence that the reporters were shot at without providing any source.
        Do I have that right Annie?

      • Annie Robbins
        December 14, 2012, 6:15 am

        I need to provide a source that this photo was not taken in a previous year

        no, you need to provide a source to back up what you claimed which was “Salayme in front of the birthday cake his uncle said he was on his way to buy”

        if the photo was taken earlier that day at his school, it wasn’t the same cake he was on his way to buy.

      • Woody Tanaka
        December 14, 2012, 8:22 am

        Yes, zio, when you assert nonsensical racist nonsense, you have to provide a source.

    • talknic
      December 13, 2012, 11:31 pm

      GilGameshb

      “Oh and here is a picture of Salayme in front of the birthday cake his uncle said he was on his way to buy

      more fine reporting from the folks at Mondoweiss.”

      Uh huh. Pity you didn’t check what the captions on the photo said …. you %^&^%$ moron link to translate.google.com.au!!%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%85%20%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%85%20%D8%A8%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84%20%D8%B9%D9%8A%D8%AF%20%D9%85%D9%8A%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AF%20%D9%84%D9%87%20%D9%81%D9%8A%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%B3%D8%A9%20%D8%8C%20%D9%85%D8%B9%20%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%A8%20%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%87%20!%D9%88%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%85%20%D8%A5%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%AF%20!!!! and

      “On Thursday, Palestinians on Twitter posted a photograph of the smiling Salaymeh sitting by a birthday cake earlier in the day.” link to jpost.com

    • SQ Debris
      December 13, 2012, 11:39 pm

      According to several sources Mohammed had already celebrated his birthday at school with his colleagues. That party is quite likely the source of the image. What an odd supposition GilGamesh provides us; that it’s a lie that Mohammed was on his way to buy his birthday cake, that he’d actually already had his sweet seventeen party and then went out to get himself SHOT TO DEATH..? Thanks to GG for throwing a spotlight on the creepy machinations of the yawning abyss of denial.

    • talknic
      December 13, 2012, 11:42 pm

      ” If the car that was carrying the journalist was being fired why hasn’t Rueters reported that? “

      By Reuters | Dec.14, 2012 link to haaretz.com

  14. Kate
    December 13, 2012, 11:42 pm

    The cake in the photo is the one he had at his school birthday celebration. He was planning to buy another one to take home for his family birthday party. This was in my Today in Palestine newslist for Wednesday on Mondo:

    Photo: Young man celebrates his birthday, is killed by the army the same day
    Images from Palestine 12 Dec — Mohammed Al salayma, celebrate today his 17th Birthday in the school and just want to by his Birthday cacke to celebrate with his Family, but the IsraHelli soldier shoot him by 6 bullets and killed him
    link to facebook.com

  15. Annie Robbins
    December 14, 2012, 7:25 am

    link to 972mag.com

    Just this week there were two incidents in which soldiers decided not to open fire at protesters – one in Kaddum and the other in Hebron – and the army came under harsh criticism for it. I am sure that calls like “cowards” and “shame on the army,” along with the militaristic public atmosphere played their part in officer N.’s decision to kill Muhammad.

    There is no doubt that it was N. who pulled the trigger and shot the bullets that took the life of Muhammad Salaymah. But it’s not she alone who is responsible for his death. The fact that the lives of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in the Hebron area are being run by kids in uniform is the real crime. Officer N. has a commander, and her commander has a commander, and so on, all the way up to the prime minister, and every single one of them bears the responsibility for the death of a hearing impaired teen who celebrated his 17th birthday yesterday. The occupation has made us blind to the suffering of life under oppression, under daily humiliations at the checkpoints. The price which is becoming clear today – the one which the family of Muhammad has paid and that N. will carry with her all her life – is not something we can bear much longer. When the policies of Netanyahu and Lieberman lead to another Intifada, it will be too late. When a young boy is shot at a checkpoint on his way to buy a cake for his birthday, it is already too late. This occupation must end.

    • LanceThruster
      December 14, 2012, 12:08 pm

      Thank you for providing, Annie.

      The explanation could not be more clear than this.

    • kalithea
      December 15, 2012, 9:41 am

      I don’t like the way 972 puts this:

      “But it’s not she alone who is responsible for his death.”

      – she is responsible for assaulting him with SIX BULLETS. The multiple shots demonstrate her level of HATE.

      “The price which is becoming clear today – the one which the family of Muhammad has paid and that N. will carry with her all her life – is not something we can bear much longer.”

      Exactly what price must N carry here. She’s CONTENT about it. Does the author of that article really believe she’s burdened by guilt. Oh puhleeez! Zionists are clueless and trying to “humanize” the monsters who commit these crimes. That’s the problem. When are they going to understand that Zionism corrupts ABSOLUTELY and forcefully condemn these crimes without exception or excuses of any kind?

  16. Stephen Shenfield
    December 14, 2012, 8:09 am

    His hearing impairment may have played a crucial role. Perhaps he didn’t hear an order to halt.

    As the IDF are now acting more harshly to prevent media workers from obtaining information, doesn’t this require a change in the way the media operate? Instead of pretending to know what happened when they don’t, let the media just say they don’t know. In view of the long record of proven lies from the Israeli authorities, there should be a general media policy not to report official Israeli versions of events at all. Just ignore them. If and when it can be determined what happened, let it be reported then, however long a time has elapsed since the event.

  17. seafoid
    December 14, 2012, 8:46 am

    “After they investigated the incident it turned out it was a fake gun, but it didn’t change how I felt about it. I’m happy this ended with no injuries on our side and I’m sure any other officer in my situation would have done what I did.”

    Only an IDF officer. The French Army wouldn’t accept such behaviour . Especially as there was no reason to kill the person.

  18. chinese box
    December 14, 2012, 9:11 am

    off topic (sort of): I hope MW is on this story:

    link to worldnews.nbcnews.com

    • Annie Robbins
      December 14, 2012, 12:49 pm

      chinese box, scroll up and read allison’s second blockquote.

      • chinese box
        December 14, 2012, 1:35 pm

        Thanks Annie–I should have read the entire article…

  19. kalithea
    December 15, 2012, 11:13 am

    This smells like a HATE crime bred by Zionism as in Rachel Corrie’s case and the murder of Furkan Dorgan and so many others. There’s no other way to put it. This smiling Zionist hag (because all I see is the ugliness behind that toothy facade) obviously doesn’t perceive the life she took as human. She’s CONTENT and secure with the impunity afforded to Zionism.

    Only a psychopath brags about being content to kill, especially when he/she can count on impunity.

    If you go to Atlasshrugs, the HATE that Zionists feel for Muslims is palpable in every comment. In the comments section on the Hagel article, they defend N’s act with comments such as “As far as I’m concerned, a dead muslim is a good muslim. I just wish there were more good muslims. Give Mizrahi a medal.” That comment was posted Friday, December 14, 2012 at 04:20 AM.

    iow, if we follow the “logic” in the comment; this individual wishes there were more dead Muslims. That’s what I call psychopathic, HATE talk. One can only conclude that Zionism breeds psychopathic hate that threatens us all, Muslim and non-Muslim. If we are to defeat this source of such violent hate, let’s start calling a spade a spade. Recently, Cast Lead/Pillar of Cloud: the crimes against children (419 slaughtered in Cast Lead and 37 in Pillar of “Cloud”) and the murder of entire families, men, women, children, grandparents in both operations, the phosphorous, the graffiti scrawled by IOF murderers on the walls of Palestinian homes, the IOF t-shirts, the ethnic cleansing, and weekly settler price tags all expose this psychopathic hate. They don’t even try to hide their hate; they scrawl threats like “gas the arabs” on walls, gates, mosques, in cemetaries and on private property. These hate crimes are being committed in broad daylight with total impunity, because we aren’t defining them for what they are! We have a responsibility to call them out for what they are! It’s time to call them out for what they are: HATE CRIMES!

    No other group is exempt from legal punishment for hate crimes; and neither should a group that hides behind the fact that they have been victims of hate crimes be exempt. What better cover could there be for committing HATE CRIMES with impunity than to to perpetuate the notion that one is still and forever the most vulnerable of all victims even with hundreds of nuclear weapons and the 10th largest arsenal in the world??? How ridiculous is that??? They’re playing us all for saps!

    The world is being fleeced by the Zionist con; the most effective con-job in modern history.

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