‘Birthright’ ecstasy in Jerusalem — Ziojuana, no occupation, lotta Jewish babies

Israel/Palestine
on 52 Comments


More at The Real News

Amazing/tragic Real News segment produced by Lia Tarachansky and featuring Netanyahu’s call for a majority of “the Jewish people” to live in the Jewish state, dancing of American recruits with Israeli soldiers and the Israeli army band, and Max Blumenthal’s interviews of Michael Steinhardt, the American Birthright sponsor, and of young American innocents proclaiming that they’ve found their home. Steinhardt tells Blumenthal there is no occupation: “45 years ago there was no Palestinian people.. there was no one.” But that Israelis– “we go back 3, 4,000 years. Palestinians don’t.” Blumenthal: “We have Methusaleh on speed dial but they don’t.” Steinhardt says he hopes American kids will hook up with Israelis that night. “I am really high.. on Zion. Ziojuana,” says one of the young people.

About Philip Weiss

Philip Weiss is Founder and Co-Editor of Mondoweiss.net.

Other posts by .


Posted In:

52 Responses

  1. W.Jones
    January 10, 2013, 12:54 pm

    “I am really high.. on Zion. Ziojuana,” says one of the young people.

    Is that a gateway drug?

    • Kathleen
      January 11, 2013, 8:45 am

      Max is so incredibly good. Opens the door and let’s them step in their own stupidity or shit what ever you want to call it. One of the young men “I am so high right now” Max ” Like Zioncaine….”Ziojuana”

      Steinhardt “the Palestinians are a made up people” What a thug

      Those young folks look so “spiritual” humping each other on the dance floor.

      The last segment when Max ask those two young women “will the soldiers be taking you to settlements” Will you meet any Palestinians

    • Mooser
      January 11, 2013, 6:18 pm

      “Is that a gateway drug?”

      The gateway to a full-on Ziocaine syndrome is usually PEP pills. And intervention during the “hasbara honeymoon” period is very difficult.
      Cases of Ziocaine syndrome-by-proxy are possible too, but may sometimes be much ameliorated by a single visit to Mondoweiss. (Available without perscription in the small, or tablet size, and the large economy full-screen view. Caution: May cause insomnia, anxiety and shame in some users. Others may experience visions of the ICC. If an feeling of ethno-religious supremacy lasts for more than four hours after reading Mondo, consult a gardener, because zol ze vaksen ze ve a tsibble mit de kopin dreid )

  2. Krauss
    January 10, 2013, 1:24 pm

    A bunch of people my age went to Birthright only to hook up. The girls wanted meet the dangerous IDF soldiers, with their totally un-Jewish badass image.
    The boys wanted to meet hot Jewish girls from all over the world. After they come home, however? I don’t know, from what I’ve seen there are relatively small effects. There are a minority who become obsessed with it though.

    Still, pretty shocking to see the interview with Steinhardt basically go full Adelson on Blumenthal. Or that guy openly admitting that settlements is good.

    I never went, and in retrospect, I’m glad I never did.

    • seafoid
      January 11, 2013, 1:53 am

      It looks like an airhead quotient of at least 80% is a Birthright selection criterion.
      So not surprised you don’t make the cut, Krauss.

    • Kathleen
      January 11, 2013, 8:53 am

      Have met quite a few young fair and open minded young folks who went on the trip, extended their trip and had their eyes opened somewhat. But how the “chosen” people piece is cultivated blinding the individual to the pain of the occupation is so alarming. Growing and cultivating entitlement at the cost of the oppression of the Palestinians. The sad thing is that many of those young folk may know and don’t care anyway. Danger danger

      • sardelapasti
        January 11, 2013, 2:25 pm

        Kathleen – “The sad thing is that many of those young folk may know and don’t care anyway”

        They certainly do know. No chance of anyone ignoring it anymore. And “sad” it is, but essentially it is criminal and should be punished.

  3. German Lefty
    January 10, 2013, 1:32 pm

    Max is so hot and he asks great questions. The Birthright participants really look like they are on drugs. Creepy, creepy.

  4. pabelmont
    January 10, 2013, 1:34 pm

    Marijuana may not be too terribly bad for folks, not always perhaps, but Ziojuana — fumes from a death star. What did Peres say? Two things must be done with your eyes shut, making war and making love? Well, I guess you can shut your eyes when you’re high on Ziojuana. (That’s the threshold drug for Ziocaine.)

    • Obsidian
      January 10, 2013, 3:35 pm

      “What did Peres say? Two things must be done with your eyes shut, making war and making love?”

      A lot that old feeb knows about either,

    • Mooser
      January 11, 2013, 1:38 pm

      “Ziojuana”?

      That is a slanderous conflation! It’s a bud libel!

  5. chinese box
    January 10, 2013, 1:37 pm

    “I am really high.. on Zion. Ziojuana,”

    It’s called Ziocaine out on the streets. Get with it.

  6. tree
    January 10, 2013, 4:29 pm

    Meanwhile, Haaretz has a long article analyzing recent survey results:

    Bye, the beloved country – why almost 40 percent of Israelis are thinking of emigrating

    …The survey found that 37 percent of Israelis are considering a move to a different country at some time in the future. At the same time, it’s noteworthy than only 2 percent of those surveyed said they are certain they will leave Israel — it’s only a matter of time.

    The primary reason the potential emigrants cite is the difficulty of getting ahead economically in Israel — cited by 55 percent of those considering emigration. Raz terms this notion a “fantasy.” “We want to think we have a way out of here, but only 2 percent really intend to leave,” he explains.

    Fantasy or reality, the fact cannot be ignored that many Israelis want, at some level, to live elsewhere. The tendency to consider leaving is most prominent among voters for center and left-of-center parties; the 30-49 age group; secular, salaried individuals; as well as among inhabitants of the south of the country and the Greater Tel Aviv area.

    It’s important to point out that both the research for the article and the survey were carried out before Operation Pillar of Defense in the Gaza Strip last month, though the military escalation in the south was already intensifying and the winds of a potential war against Iran were blowing strong.

    Equally important, however, is the fact that, according to various data, most of those who are thinking of leaving are not motivated by the security situation — in fact, it’s the exact opposite. When the security threat mounts, the Israeli public views leaving as treason, and few emigrate at such times. Indeed, according to the researchers, few Israelis leave for ideological reasons, such as the occupation, antidemocratic legislation or even the emergency call-up orders, which have been widespread in recent years.

    According to the State of the Nation Report for 2011-2012, published last month by the Taub Center for Social Policy Studies in Israel, the situation of the country’s young working families has worsened in the past five years (not taking into account Arab and Jewish ultra-Orthodox families, whose situation has been even more aggravated).

    Figures issued by the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development, of which Israel is a member, show that Israel is lagging in most of the relevant indices. For example, Israel is 29th out of 36 countries in terms of investment in education. In health investment, Israel is third from last. Israel is in 25th place in the quality-of-life index and in last place in terms of government administration.

    more at link

    On edit:Not sure why my link isn’t working above but here’s the link again.

    link to haaretz.com

  7. IL1948
    January 10, 2013, 5:18 pm

    What a beautiful sight to see: hundreds of young jews connecting with our homeland.

    • Kathleen
      January 11, 2013, 8:57 am

      Humping for your homeland. Is more like it. Reminds me of those images of Moses coming down from the hills and the folk are dancing wildly and honoring a golden calf.

    • Mooser
      January 11, 2013, 4:58 pm

      What a beautiful sight to see: hundreds of young jews connecting with our homeland.”

      Yes, it must be a relief to you. After all, just imagine if those “young jews” had connected with their religion or culture instead. The consequences for Zionism would be catastrophic, if that happened.

    • marc b.
      January 11, 2013, 5:11 pm

      thanks for the laugh ill’48. yes, nothing speaks more deeply of devotion to the fatherland than techno and dry humping.

      yiz – righ – el! woo woo – ah! *insert fight pump*

  8. seafoid
    January 10, 2013, 5:23 pm

    Birthright. Life wrong.

    • Kathleen
      January 11, 2013, 9:00 am

      What other example is there of a group of people laying claim to a piece of land based on a book allegedly written by “their people” several centuries ago? Insane

  9. seafoid
    January 10, 2013, 5:26 pm

    That scallywag Blumenthal. And drunk Jews. And when they met it was moider.

    and kudos to Blumenthal for getting a
    Ziocaine mention in. Go on my son !

    • Kathleen
      January 11, 2013, 9:13 am

      Max has become a master…asking the question getting out of the way and then throwing in a few zingers for them to respond to. All the while keeping a straight face

  10. Abdul-Rahman
    January 10, 2013, 5:45 pm

    “we go back 3, 4,000 years. Palestinians don’t.” These Zionist propagandists are both vile and beyond hilarious in how entirely incorrect their propaganda of course is!

    First on the Palestinians, (of many things that could be cited) Professor Emeritus Alan Dowty of Notre Dame University; “Palestinians are the descendants of all the indigenous peoples who lived in Palestine over the centuries; since the seventh century, they have been predominantly Muslim in religion and almost completely Arab in language and culture.”

    And then most recently of all in regards to the Zionist propagandists (for people like this clown Michael Steinhardt, since he brought of the topic), Dr. Eran Elhaik “The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses” link to gbe.oxfordjournals.org

    link to failedmessiah.typepad.com

    “The various groups of Jews in the world today do not share a common genetic origin. We are talking here about groups that are very heterogeneous and which are connected solely by religion…[the] genome of European Jews is a mosaic of ancient peoples and its origin is largely Khazar.”

    link to salem-news.com

    link to gbe.oxfordjournals.org

    But of course Zionist freaks and propagandists have a complete aversion to FACTS, HISTORY, and of course REALITY!!

    • Kathleen
      January 11, 2013, 11:18 am

      I have always wondered about the genetic component to referring to yourself as Jewish. Always confusing the need to identify with being Jewish and whether it is a cultural, religious or genetic reference. I have lots of Jewish friends who are not religious at all and identify heavily with being Jewish . And knew that genetic component is really remote. Never quite sure what it is that they seem to be clinging to? Really do think that it is the “chosen people” ID marker. This learned need to somehow elevate their identities. So odd. Believe this is a learned behavior as almost all behavior is

  11. mcohen
    January 10, 2013, 9:56 pm

    abdul ramen

    all old stuff hasbara -go back to ich
    but going back to the 7 century is not far back enough
    try this era instead a.d 67
    link to google.com.au

    you might struggle to find any arab or palestinian coins -ever wonder why it is called the land of israel

    But of course palestinian freaks and propagandists have a complete aversion to FACTS, HISTORY, and of course REALITY!!

    • Light
      January 11, 2013, 1:22 am

      But those are Palestinian coins.

    • seafoid
      January 11, 2013, 1:51 am

      Mcohen
      It is even worse than the absence of coins.
      Some dude told me that the Baal Shem Tov was born in Galut. And the Gaon of Vilna did not live in Hevron.

      Can you believe it ?

      • Mooser
        January 11, 2013, 1:48 pm

        “Some dude told me that the Baal Shem Tov was born in Galut. And the Gaon of Vilna did not live in Hevron. “

        And you don’t think the new Baal Shem Tov, and the new Gaon will come from the settlements? Or from among the Ultra-Orthodox or Haredim? Where else could they come from?

      • MHughes976
        January 24, 2013, 5:26 pm

        Sorry to be so late commenting on this. The question is partly one of what we mean by ‘Jewish’ and ‘Palestinian’.
        The earliest Palestinian coins are not marked ‘Palestine’, though many of those who used them must have called their country by that name. but that is because they are Greek or copies of the Greek originals that commanded confidence in those days. The earliest is from around 570 BCE, found in the Ketef Hinnom tomb and from Kos. The Palestinian cities, always culturally connected to Greece, minted on these patterns in later years. This coinage is Palestinian in the sense of being produced by the non-Jewish population who would have called themselves Palestinian or Syrian-Palestinian.
        The fourth century BCE Iranian province of Yehud produced coinage sometimes showing divine figures: the most interesting is of quarter-shekel weight, now in the British Museum. We could call this Jewish, in that case accepting that Judaism was then a very different, more Palestinian at least in iconography, faith than it was later to become – the later form making aniconism – rejection of images, especially divine images – an issue of great importance. Or we could call it non-Jewish, depending on how we define the word, in that case having another testimony to the antiquity and importance of ancient Palestinian culture.
        Much later, much later, we have the coinage of John, High Priest and Ethnarch who ruled in the last third of the second century and issued coins in his own name and that of ‘the Council of the Jews’.
        The Shekels of Israel associated with the Great Jewish War in the 60s CE represent the first appearance of the word Israel in inscriptions or coinage for a long time. The significance of this is debated.
        However, the record of coinage is one – if one more were needed!! – indication of the fact that the non-Jewish, indeed Palestinian, element in the ancient Holy Land is of the highest antiquity and extremely substantial, by no means eclipsed by its Jewish counterpart, just as the present Palestinian element is oppressed and scorned, so that birthright in Palestine is denied to people who in all sober truth were born there, but still not eclipsed or erased.
        I’ve consulted the Oxford History of the Biblical World and J. Magness’ recent ‘The Archaeology of the Holy Land’ in writing this. Neither of these books can really be accused of anti-Zionism.

    • Annie Robbins
      January 11, 2013, 2:52 am

      wow, so shocking. mcohen searches for “search?q=ancient+israel+coins” and comes up with ‘ancient israel coins’. we can see the url when we open the link y’know.

    • talknic
      January 11, 2013, 5:25 am
    • Avi_G.
      January 11, 2013, 8:27 am

      mcohen is a terrible comedian. In the thread about a third intifada he offered to help with the moderation of comments.

    • gamal
      January 11, 2013, 7:25 pm

      i like “Abdul Ramen” thats the Japanese wheaten Palestinian, all uniform and bound with a little bow?

      “we go back 3,4000 years” has there ever been a people with less connection to or understanding of history than zionists, we all go back over an infinite interval, yay for us.

  12. yonah fredman
    January 10, 2013, 10:32 pm

    The two most obnoxious people on this video- Netanyahu and Max Blumenthal.

    • seafoid
      January 11, 2013, 1:49 am

      Dead right Yonah. I’m going to vote Naftali Bennett. He’ll stand up to the world and enforce the Bible in Erez Israel. Go Jewish Taliban.

      • yonah fredman
        January 12, 2013, 3:15 am

        Seafoid- You are right. Naftali Bennett and the votes he will get represent a danger to the future. Max Blumenthal does not represent a similar danger to the future. But my original statement stands.

    • Mooser
      January 11, 2013, 1:44 pm

      “The two most obnoxious people on this video-“

      Yonah, that meek, overpolite, fawning Jew? He’s gone! What you see in Blumenthal is the New Jewish Man! Sure, he may seem obnoxious to you, and not properly respectful of Jewish leaders, but Blumenthal never said he would report from your perspective.

      • Mooser
        January 11, 2013, 6:26 pm

        “Yonah, that meek, overpolite, fawning Jew?”

        Sorry Yonah, that was badly phrased. I did not mean, under any circumstances, to imply that you were the “meek, overpolite, fawning” person mentioned. I meant that Max Blumenthal, would not be meek, overpolite, and fawning. I did not mean to make a personal reference, and I’m sorry it was written that way.

    • eljay
      January 11, 2013, 4:08 pm

      >> The two most obnoxious people on this video- Netanyahu and Max Blumenthal.

      Shame on Max for shining a spotlight on the immorality and ugliness that is Zio-supremacism.

      “Israel: Judaizing Palestine because ‘It’s just so cool!'”

  13. Rizla
    January 11, 2013, 12:16 pm

    Wow, so if I consume a Seagrams gin and tonic at the bar, I’m funding this crap?

    Wonderful job by Max and Lia. The tasteless 90’s techno stylistic feel of the thing rendered me temporarily hors de combat. Are things really that vulgar over there? Kudos to Max for sticking to the task at hand, i.e., giving them enough rope.

  14. NickJOCW
    January 11, 2013, 2:43 pm

    There’s a danger in taking this sort of thing too seriously, they seem mostly disillusioned youngsters escaping a reality that promised them so much and delivered so little. The old guy with white hair who says there are no Palestinians appears this or that side of senility, and I imagine only a large amount of money keeps him from a regulated retirement home.

    • Ellen
      January 11, 2013, 6:51 pm

      Serious or not, it is a classic in cult-like brainwashing methods. Those kids are wound up to do ANYTHING they are told to do.

      As for the “old guy with white hair who said there are no Palestinians.” He is not just any ‘ole rich guy but, Steinhardt was a major force in the financial hedge fund world a few years back. When he spoke the markets listened.

      As for his comment: it was either completely ignorant (which he might be in spite of his expensive ivy education) or senile.

      link to en.wikipedia.org

  15. Keith
    January 11, 2013, 7:53 pm

    At the beginning of the video, the announcer said that Jews from around the world went on these birthright tours. I wish there had been a breakdown of where they all came from. Based upon the apparent lack of diversity, it would appear that at least 11 of the twelve tribes eventually wandered into Brooklyn. When is Steinhardt, et al, going to increase their efforts to encourage Ethiopian Jews to make Aliyah? Would love to see these Kosher Honkies boogying with their African birthright cousins. Wouldn’t that shake up the folks at home.

    • Mooser
      January 13, 2013, 3:35 pm

      “Based upon the apparent lack of diversity, it would appear that at least 11 of the twelve tribes eventually wandered into Brooklyn.”

      Wait a minute, I thought there were ten tribes? Or is that why the Dodgers had to move to LA?

      • Keith
        January 13, 2013, 7:06 pm

        MOOSER- No, it was definitely twelve tribes, the twelfth consisting of one forlorn ungulate who wandered onto the Kitsap peninsula and is honored to this day by Seattleites flying the twelfth man flag. Such an honor!

  16. drdan
    January 11, 2013, 9:41 pm

    Unlike crack cocaine, Birthright is not habit forming.

    link to thenextjew.com

  17. Obsidian
    January 12, 2013, 2:26 am

    @Max

    Still waiting for when you interview young Palestinians and spoon feed them leading questions about how they feel about Israel.

  18. Obsidian
    January 12, 2013, 2:05 pm

    @Max

    I’ll make easier for you. Interview these kids.

    link to 972mag.com

    • Cliff
      January 12, 2013, 2:24 pm

      Nothing that Palestinians have done approaches what Israelis have done. If you want ‘balance’ then go to the Israeli press which will present the conflict as if Palestinians are colonizing Israel and killing Jewish children at a ratio of 10 to 1.

    • justicewillprevail
      January 12, 2013, 2:51 pm

      Oh those poor guys, had some snowballs thrown at them – outrageous, huh? Meanwhile the IDF kill a student:
      link to news.antiwar.com

      Max would be better employed talking to his relatives and witnesses, don’t you think, and asking them how it makes them feel about Israel?

  19. YoungMassJew
    January 12, 2013, 4:01 pm

    I still can’t believe I went exactly one year ago. I felt no connection to this militaristic creepy society. It’s downright disturbing how matter of factly they talk about “Judaizing” places. Jews in America are much much sane and friendly. They don’t talk matter of factly about ethnic cleansing nor do they carry guns into coffee shops in order to protect them from those scary Gentiles.

Leave a Reply