Hagel opposition will likely be Republicans for Israel

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CNN says the now-inevitable Hagel nomination is going to break along party lines, not pro-Israel lines. If it’s Republicans versus Democrats on Hagel, then Hagel’s a shoo-in. What will Rachel Maddow do? I’m betting she’ll line up on the Dem side behind Hagel, accepting his apologies on gay slurs of the past. Reporter Kevin Liptak: 

On Sunday, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said on CNN’s “State of the Union” that Hagel was a “controversial” choice by Obama. Graham didn’t rule out staging a filibuster to prevent a vote on Hagel’s nomination.

“Hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense, would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense towards the state of Israel in our nation’s history,” Graham told CNN chief political correspondent Candy Crowley.

Sen. Ted Cruz, a Republican freshman from Texas elected with strong backing from the tea party, said on “Fox News Sunday” that it was “very difficult to imagine a circumstance in which I could support (Hagel’s) confirmation.”

“It’s interesting, the president seems bound and determined to proceed down this path despite the fact that Hagel’s record is very, very troubling on the nation of Israel,” Cruz said. “He has not been a friend to Israel. And in my view the United States should stand unshakably with Israel.”

…”But when you put all the statements together, you have somebody who is very antagonistic towards the state of Israel and the issues we jointly face,” Graham said on CNN.

While there has been no official announcement that Hagel is the nominee, the White House has told some senior members of Congress to expect it, a knowledgeable source told CNN chief political analyst Gloria Borger…

[Graham said,] “[Hagel] has long severed his ties with the Republican Party. This is an in your face nomination by the president to all of us who are supportive of Israel. It looks like the second term of President Obama is going to be an in-your-face term,” he said.

Sen. Dick Durbin, a Democrat from Illinois, agreed that nominating Hagel was not a ho-hum choice by the president.

“It tells me that he not only won the election but he wants to lead this country,” Durbin said, also on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “You know, sitting back here and avoiding any confrontation and any controversy is going to make a weakened presidency. He needs to lead for the good of this nation, and we need to work together and find compromise and consensus in both political parties.”

Funny liveblog from Jason Linkins, on Sunday morning shows:

Kristol also thinks the Hagel nomination is weird and isn’t averse to seeing Michelle Flournoy or other administration members getting the nomination.

Actual question asked on Fox News Sunday: [John] Roberts cites a quote from Hagel in which he said, “I will do everything I can to avoid needless, senseless war,” and then asks, “Is that a reasonable position?”

Just gonna copy and paste that last paragraph four more times.

Actual question asked on Fox News Sunday: Roberts cites a quote from Hagel in which he said, “I will do everything I can to avoid needless, senseless war,” and then asks, “Is that a reasonable position?”

Actual question asked on Fox News Sunday: Roberts cites a quote from Hagel in which he said, “I will do everything I can to avoid needless, senseless war,” and then asks, “Is that a reasonable position?”

Actual question asked on Fox News Sunday: Roberts cites a quote from Hagel in which he said, “I will do everything I can to avoid needless, senseless war,” and then asks, “Is that a reasonable position?”

Actual question asked on Fox News Sunday: Roberts cites a quote from Hagel in which he said, “I will do everything I can to avoid needless, senseless war,” and then asks, “Is that a reasonable position?”

Nina Easton also supports Michelle Flournoy’s nomination, but I worry that she’s doing so because she somehow believes that Flournoy is open to getting America involved in needless and/or senseless wars.

[Charles] Lane says that Obama and Hagel just sort of bonded in the Senate when they both served there and that Obama simply “likes the guy.”

Thanks to Annie Robbins and Susie Kneedler.

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  1. David Doppler
    January 6, 2013, 1:22 pm

    I think a good response to the meme that he is “antagonistic toward the State of Israel” is that he is antagonistic toward the failed policies of the current government and their Neocon allies in the US which have wasted trillions of dollars and many American casualties on courses of action that have made both Israel and the US less safe. There’s a minority in Israel – including many in the Israeli defense and intelligence community – with identical views. Why aren’t you willing to embrace the sort of debate about Israeli policies in the US that is common in Israel itself? Why do you try to scare people away from expressing their views with the threat of being slandered as an Anti-Semite? And, [to whatever tortured value is elicited in response to those questions], shouldn’t the US Secretary of Defense weigh the value of not stupidly putting US troops in harms way against such a strained and conflated risk as that?

    • Annie Robbins
      January 6, 2013, 1:27 pm

      he is “antagonistic toward the State of Israel”

      everyone should open the top link, watch the video and listen to graham go at it for israel. he can’t say it enough. ‘there is no jewish lobby, there’s a pro israel lobby!’

      • American
        January 6, 2013, 5:30 pm

        Graham is so extreme on Israel it is is extra, extra weird. Don’t know what is behind it. From what I have dug up on him he’s not extremely religious as in chris zio, his district doesn’ have a lot of Jews in it, the voters there – including Charl-Hilton Head, areas of farmland ringing his district are a mixed bag so it’s not voter driven. Basically it’s an area of the average with a smaller sprinkling of the more sophisticated.

        Somehow he underwent some kind of ideological conversion or ‘political expediency’ conversion according to Bob Woodard in his book about Obama.
        Lurched way to the far far right because he was afraid of losing his election by being challenged the Tea Party. But his position on Israel doesn’t fit with the Tea Party..the Tea Party wants to cut off aid in ME, tired to cut it off for Egypt and Jordon already and would like to cut off Israel also if they could get away with it. He and TP leader Rand Paul have already had knock down drag out fights over that and in one strange fight Graham pushed denying Gitmo captives attorneys and trials and Paul fought for their right to lawyers and trials .
        So it sounds like his ‘political expediency” turnabout wasn’t calculated very well.
        And in another weird move, he and Schumer and Lieberman got together and pushed for total amnesty for all illegal immigrants—a position that would not sit well with most of the hard core conservatives voters in SC.
        He is a NEO con but that still doesn’t explain his obsession with Israel. But then his main buddies are McCain and Lieberman and Schumer.
        Graham is all over the place with no rhyme or reason that really fits in with the Tea Party he is afraid will replace him in 2014.
        Graham only has two things he is consistent on…more war..and Israel.
        He was against getting out of Iraq, Afghan….tried to pass a bill saying the US would financially support and send ‘US troops” for Israel for a attack and invasion of Iran.
        He’s also one of the not out of closet gays in the senate and there are rumors someone might have something on him about that–his upcoming Tea Party challenger has been suggesting that.

        Maybe Graham is just pure bat shit crazy…totally off his rocker.
        And he could be counting on some heavy I-Firsters $$$ to fend off his Tea Party opponent in his 2014 campaign.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 6, 2013, 9:58 pm

        wow, that is a really interesting comment american. especially the penultimate paragraph. by all means if you have any links supporting all this t party stuff, even just gossip, please link. he’s a strange one, but i know very little about him.

      • Annie Robbins
        January 7, 2013, 12:49 am

        thanks C&D, will checkout. nice seeing you around btw

      • CloakAndDagger
        January 7, 2013, 2:02 am

        thanks annie. spending much of my time in china on business these days, but it is good to be back home for a while.

      • American
        January 7, 2013, 11:44 am

        Annie….here are few references I stuck on my sticky notes while researching him but I didn’t save everything I found – just studied a lot of reports and news articles and his background to see if I could find any explaination or connections for his extreme Israel fetish. I couldnt ferret out any ‘one’ defining reason. …but dollars to doughnuts it’s probably his own personal ideology on war, he ‘luvs war’ and then that gets him a lot of campaign and financial support from zio contributors for eternal US wars in the ME. There were lots of rumors about his gayness, it’s basically an open secret in DC evidently, so there could be something there someone has on him given the numerous scandals that have resulted in several politicians having to resign their office over sex related issues. I saw bashing of his gayness by some and also saw gay groups bashing him for ‘not coming out’ about his gayness- so he’s between a rock and hard place on that if it were made a political issue.

        Graham: Paul’s bill would harm Israel – The Hill’s Floor Action
        Sep 21, 2012 – Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-Ky.) bill to cut aid to Egypt, Libya and Pakistan threatens peace in the Middle East for Israel.

        .S. Senator Lindsey Graham wants to let Netanyahu commit the U.S …
        talk.baltimoresun.com › News › National/World NewsCached
        – Oct 12, 2012Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) is planning to press the Senate next month to pledge U.S. troops, money, and political support to Israel should

        Chuck Schumer & Lindsey Graham push amnesty
        November 11, 2012By Michael
        Northern Leftist Senator Chuck Schumer and Southern neo-conservative Senator Lindsey Graham are joining forces for a major push for amnesty for the millions of illegal aliens in the United States.

        Rand Paul, Lindsey Graham Have ‘Crazy Bastard’ Fight
        Entertaining Senate battle over the NDAA and Gitmo.
        WASHINGTON — Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul leapt to the defense of “crazy bastards” Thusday night, arguing in a spat with fellow Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham (S.C.) that they are just as deserving of lawyers as anyone else. Graham had been arguing in favor of an amendment barring the government from spending money to ship terrorism suspects from the prison base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to the U.S.
        The amendement passed 54 to 41, with Paul voting for it, but the Kentucky lawmaker — who later voted to end indefinite detention of Americans in the United States — wanted to make clear that crazy bastards are people, too, and that they deserve to get trials in America.
        “I don’t really think that if we’re going to have a crazy bastard standard that we shouldn’t have a right to trial by jury, because if we’re going to lock up all the crazy bastards, for goodness sakes, would you not want, if you’re a crazy bastard, to have a right to trial by jury?” Paul said.
        He meant that in all seriousness.
        “I think this is a very serious debate and should not be made frivolous,” Paul said in arguing against an indefinite detention system that parks suspects in Gitmo with little more than a habeas corpus hearing. “This is an ancient right that we have defended for 800 years, for goodness sakes. To say that habeas is due process is absurd. It’s the beginning of due process. if you don’t have a right to trial by jury, you do not have due process. You do not have a Constitution. What are you fighting against and for if you throw the Constitution out?”
        Paul, at that point, was arguing for an amendment that aimed to ensure American terror suspects arrested in the United States get trials.’

      • pabelmont
        January 7, 2013, 12:25 pm

        Is Lindsey Graham’s amazingly defensive (and amazingly open) pro-Israelism hard to explain? I mean, why him? Why him almost alone? Where are all the others when Israel is so imperiled?

        Remember when J Edgar Hoover had secret files of “dirt” on lots of famous Americans, and not by any means only on those formally regarded (by right-wingers) as (possible) “enemies” or “villains” such as M L King. Well, he had dirt on lots of politicians. Control.

        I assume that the keeping of secrets on politicians is part of the method by which various elements of the American “establishment-control” control the members of the establishment. Why should AIPAC-and-friends be any different? We know of AIPAC’s “control” via small campaign contributions and (much more important) by threat of very large campaign contributions to opponents at next election. Where applicable, “control” by blackmail (as to secrets) would be just dandy.

        This hysterical open and un-explainable pro-Israelism sounds to me like the product of very strong (extraordinarily strong) “control” and I would not rule out blackmail. Or maybe they guy is just hysterically in love with Israel. Who knows?

    • mijj
      January 6, 2013, 3:05 pm

      > “antagonistic toward the State of Israel”

      they say “antagonistic” .. what they mean is “uppity”

  2. Krauss
    January 6, 2013, 1:41 pm

    I disagree. Plenty of Democrats will vote for the AIPAC position; i.e. “no”.

    Glenn Greenwald’s latest at the Guardian points this out, as you quoted him in another post. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/05/hagel-liberals-gays-israel-democrats

    As a sidenote; MJ Rosenberg always said that AIPAC’s hold on the Democrats was stronger. I think that is probably right. The Republicans and their Evangelical nutjobs hold a stronger sway on their party than the Democratic/liberal base does. Thus, you need more enforcement. Remember the rejection of Jerusalem at the DNC convention last summer?

    I think Hagel will crash and burn and Obama won’t defend him very well. As usual it’s up to the liberal press. I am still waiting for a clear NYT editorial on Hagel, rather than letting individual Op-Ed writers do the job for them.

    Nonetheless, I think AIPAC will win. But it will be a Phyrric victory. It will expose itself, which Obama counts on. If Hagel is nominated, at this point and time, AIPAC loses no matter what – and so does the neocons.

  3. Les
    January 6, 2013, 2:02 pm

    Are we to believe that Tea Party activists, as opposed to their funders, actually support the Israel Lobby?

  4. amigo
    January 6, 2013, 2:05 pm

    “Hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense, would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense towards the state of Israel in our nation’s history.

    Enough already.

    Would someone tell these traitorous buffoons that the USA was not created for Israel,s benefit.

    “Christ it aint easy”, listening to these morons.


  5. gingershot
    January 6, 2013, 2:37 pm

    Obama and Hagel need to team up and beat the tar out of Netanyahu –

    Israel and her Israeli Lobby have been ‘playing’ the US for years now – and they still don’t think it’s over yet. The biggest play of all is yet to come – they’re desperate now as without it their Apartheid will be left exposed and twisting in the wind

    This is how sick these guys are – the ‘needless, senseless war’ the Neocons want is the war to save Israeli Apartheid – shoving the US into into what becomes (as hoped and planned for by Israel and her Lobby) a ‘Thousand Year Endless War against Iran and Islam’

    “Actual question asked on Fox News Sunday: [John] Roberts cites a quote from Hagel in which he said, “I will do everything I can to avoid needless, senseless war,” and then asks, “Is that a reasonable position?”

    Just gonna copy and paste that last paragraph four more times.”

  6. dimadok
    January 6, 2013, 2:42 pm

    I would like to chime in. Although I don’t know enough of American politics that whole thing looks blown up beyond its value and puts in ridiculous light both sides here. Let us assume that Hagel will get the job- what’s next?
    Will he confront Israel- he won’t for the sake of his job and party support. Will he prevent direct confrontation with Iran, if they get to the final stages of enrichment and assembly of nuclear warhead- he won’t, and not because of the great love for Israel and it’s people, but because Saudis, Qataris and other Gulf States and Iran- bordering countries will be sweating their robes out of fear and begging for US help.
    So where it leaves the current brawl over Hagel nomination- pure politics for local consumption on both sides, and cheering from the useful idiots, happy to jump to the anti- Israel wagon.
    Also, if I would follow the logics of this site- which is hard enough already, Israel will not avoid striking Iran, since it is a “common knowledge” here that we are crazy and Masada- obsessed people there.
    So Hagel just a cause for lots of words and little consequences.

    • Annie Robbins
      January 7, 2013, 1:03 am

      Let us assume that Hagel will get the job- what’s next?….Hagel just a cause for lots of words and little consequences

      dim, you’re missing the big picture. imho obama’s first priority wrt sec def is cutting the pentagon budget. streamlining. reminds me of something i read today on an old jpost:

      HIGHLIGHT: HAIFA – The American United Services Organization, which last February decided to close its Fleet Centre in Haifa, now intends to expand it and make it the southern anchor of its Mediterranean operation, USO president Charles Hagel told The Jerusalem Post yesterday.

      The closure decision came under heavy fire from the citizens of Haifa, the Sixth Fleet and American-Jewish circles. Hagel explained that the Haifa centre will be maintained, while 10 other USO centres in Mediterranean countries are being closed as scheduled.
      He said the U.S. Navy and the State Department had agreed that, for military and diplomatic reasons, the Haifa centre was “very necessary.” The community support given by residents, as well as 200 protest letters, mainly from American-Jewish circles, had influenced the decision. Hagel noted that the protesters had backed their demands with funds, and some $60,000 had already been raised to support the centre.
      Hagel, 43, is a decorated Vietnam veteran who has served as deputy head of the Veterans Administration. In February 1987, he was elected president of USO, a voluntary organization catering to the personal needs of U.S. servicemen in 160 centres worldwide. At the time it was practically bankrupt, with a $ 1.5 million deficit. It is now $ 1.8 million in the black.”

      obama wants to trim defense spending. his main priority is the budget. he think hagel will make a good hatchet man.

      • dimadok
        January 7, 2013, 10:58 am

        @Annie. If the goal is to cut the military budget-it does make sense to appoint Hagel. As for the rest- it wouldn’t make much difference.

    • sardelapasti
      January 7, 2013, 1:37 am

      ” it is a “common knowledge” here that we are crazy and Masada- obsessed people there.”

      Well said. The original suicide (atom) bombers.

      The Hagel story already did its job. What Hagel is or does is of no consequence, the morons who run Zionist lobbying have already shot themselves in the foot, enough to sustain some little amount of permanent damage. Thank you, every little bit helps.

  7. irmep
    January 6, 2013, 2:44 pm

    Today Robert Reich, on the George Stephanopoulos Sunday yak show, wondered why Obama would expend political capital on confirmation, but wouldn’t touch the Israel lobby angle that George laid out on the table.

    A few moments later, Reich launched into an in-depth analysis of the NRA’s “modus-operandi” to keep gun-control issues off the table.

    As Phil previously noted, Reich’s approach to the Israel lobby is “affected ignorance.” This time in service to the anti-Hagel drive.


  8. DICKERSON3870
    January 6, 2013, 3:24 pm

    RE: “CNN says the now-inevitable Hagel nomination is going to break along party lines, not pro-Israel lines.” ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: Let the battle begin for Hagel’s confirmation by the U.S. Senate!


    JEWISH VOICE FOR PEACE (JVP) PETITION: When nominating the next Secretary of Defense, make your decision based on who you believe is the best person for the job, not who AIPAC approves of.
    TO SIGN – http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/301/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=12213

    JUSTIN RAIMONDO’S WHITE HOUSE PETITION: Urging the Obama administration to nominate Hagel and fight for his confirmation.
    TO SIGN – https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/nominate-chuck-hagel-secretary-defense-and-fight-his-nomination/P0ZtympX

    ROBERT NAIMAN’S (Policy Director at Just Foreign Policy) PETITION: President Obama, we have your back. We support your choice of Chuck Hagel to serve as the next Secretary of Defense.
    TO SIGN – http://signon.org/sign/back-obama-in-tapping-1?source=c.url&r_by=1135580

    FACEBOOK PAGE: Chuck Hagel for Secretary of Defense
    TO “LIKE” – http://www.facebook.com/pages/Chuck-Hagel-for-Secretary-of-Defense/485366244839574

  9. jimmy
    January 6, 2013, 3:26 pm

    Hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense, would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense towards the state of Israel in our nation’s history,” Graham told CNN chief political correspondent Candy Crowley.

    “our nations history”…spoken as if israel has been around forever…

    sadly even the US lamestrem media…is part of the isreal lobby

    • Citizen
      January 6, 2013, 4:50 pm

      @ jimmy
      Wonder what Candy Crowley thinks of Ike’s booting Israel, France, and England away from Egyptian territory–ending the last great quest to save colonialism as a norm?

    • unverified__m039c503
      January 7, 2013, 12:08 am

      You Are 1000% Correct In Your Logic. AIPAC Is Supported In America by All The Jewish Owned TV And Print Media Stations In America. Hagel Would Be An Excellent Choice. It Would Be Refreshing For America And Israel To Hear And Get The Truth For a Change About Israel. Graham And McCain Are Bought And Paid For By AIPAC. As Is Wolf Blitzer Of CNN Who Once Worked For AIPAC.

  10. radii
    January 6, 2013, 3:46 pm

    I think we gently creeped past a tipping point here in the U.S., and the public mood generally is that it is time to put israel, and especially their lobby, in their place – and the Hagel nomination and confirmation is a small step in that direction

    • W.Jones
      January 6, 2013, 11:51 pm

      Not yet IMO. I think people generally don’t care alot and still have favorable ideas about the 51st State. I was still thinking the State cared about human rights until I saw pictures of people’s backs bright red from electric cord floggings a few days ago.

  11. piotr
    January 6, 2013, 3:49 pm

    “I will do everything I can to avoid needless, senseless war,” and then asks, “Is that a reasonable position?”

    This is absolutely hysterical. Shouldn’t a sensible person have some, not too many, oh no! needless, senseless wars?

  12. Kathleen
    January 6, 2013, 4:13 pm

    On Washington Journal this morning James Kitfield also said the Hagel nomination looks like a go. He came right out and said the opposition is the Israel lobby and Israel.

    Hope folks are contacting Obama and their Reps in support of Hagel. Keep contacting let them know we are out here. Letters to the editor call into national media outlets keep pushing for Hagel

  13. yourstruly
    January 6, 2013, 5:40 pm

    aipac, its connections & associates?

    going, going, going, gone?

    palestine, just & free?

    a fresh view?

    & same old same old?

    into the dustbin of history?

    meanwhile, renewal?

    turns out it’s ongoing?

    yet by popular demand?

  14. biorabbi
    January 6, 2013, 8:46 pm

    There was no there there to the Hagel opposition. After studying the numerous point-counter points about Hagel, it’s clear to me he is an anti-interventional politician. This goes beyond foreign wars but into a more neutral foreign policy. Finally, it goes to the realization that massive defense cuts must be made. The key issues involved in his term will be dismantling the defense establishment and the contractors(if such a thing is even possible but that’s another discussion altogether).

    One argument being made now is Hagel said the Iraq War was about oil. But everyone admits or recognizes this now.

    I would like to test his non-interventionist credentials in the hearing by asking about issues relating to the projection of American Power in Libya(which we did), Syria(that god we’re not), but also examining cases such as the Balkans during the Clinton presidency. Clearly, intervening in Bosnia was not in our vital interests so how would he advise the president on such an issue, or Sudan, or Rwanda. I’m not saying I have the answers to the right/proper course of action, but I’m curious to see how he would respond.

    This whole thing is turning into a joke. Hagel/Bagel. Free Beacon LOL.

    And I don’t even know how you could ask a question about the aggressively, openly gay thing with a straight face. Or ask why he would sign a letter about Soviet Jews or Armenians. Will Senator Graham critique Hagel on the gay thing??? I can see SNL doing a skit on these hearings. I seriously think the entire Hagel thing could be turned into a fairly decent musical.

    • Annie Robbins
      January 6, 2013, 11:04 pm

      I seriously think the entire Hagel thing could be turned into a fairly decent musical.

      i agree!

    • libra
      January 7, 2013, 5:47 pm

      biorabbi: I seriously think the entire Hagel thing could be turned into a fairly decent musical.

      Yes, I can see it up in lights on Broadway:


      Get writing biorabbi, this could be the break you’ve been dreaming of.

  15. chuckcarlos
    January 6, 2013, 8:57 pm

    well there, now you’ve done and did it….

    just about pissed everybody else…you no good jews for the USA

    pissed off AIPaC or American for Israel BS or ADL or BSADL or whatever all these white supremacy judeo Pacs now call themselves…

    and now you’ve done it and nominated some no good real conservative Nebraska clod hopper war hero purple hearted rich guy Senator to be Defense Secretary…

    AND all this guy Chuck Hagel, very Conservative Nebraskan has ever done has stood up and said…I AM AN AMERICAN and hold certain values inherent that have been fought out in the Revolution and CIVIL WAR…mainly that all men are created equal and there shall not be any slavery or second class citizenship for anybody regardless…

    and boy does that piss the Nazi nutjob whackos in white Israel OFF….

    the next thing you know you all no goodnicks will try and stop the USA from bankrolling Israel and make them go it alone…my goodness what will come of that?

  16. biorabbi
    January 6, 2013, 8:58 pm

    As for AIPAC, wasn’t there some sort of deposition that they were all watching porn all the time? Maybe AIPAC could see if their porn viewing habits correspond to Hagels or Hormel. Hagel’s no nonsense style should provide extremely good viewing for all parties concerned.

    Question 1. Who was your favorite character in Fiddler on the Roof?
    Question 2. What is your favorite Gershwin song?
    Question 3. Senator, would you be willing to appear on set with TV’s Andy Cohen?
    Question 4. How many stars would you give the film MILK?
    Question 5. Are you prepared to hug it out with Barney Frank?
    Question 6. Senator, have you ever been inside a Turkish Prison; take my wife, please.

    • W.Jones
      January 6, 2013, 11:54 pm

      Those questions are never asked publicly.

      Who knows what goes on behind the scenes exactly and the way their Lobby works when it interacts with them directly to get a person with n0 knowledge or even a former pro-Palestinian “on board”?

  17. biorabbi
    January 6, 2013, 9:00 pm

    Hagel’s offended quite a few people through the years. I’m going to do a google search to see if he’s ticked off Scientology. He looks like the kind of guy who would rip an e meter in two.

  18. atime forpeace
    January 7, 2013, 8:03 am

    Arnaud De Borchgrave comes to the barricade.

    and he calls it the “jewish lobby”


  19. Ellen
    January 7, 2013, 9:48 am

    Well….Lindsay made it clear the opposition to Hagel’s nomination is all about Israel and not about the U.S and Department of Defense. That message does not go over well with anyone, including Israeli’s with their heads screwed on.

    Wonder why Cindy did not ask Graham if he has greater concerns for Israel or the U.S? He opened the door for that question. She let him rant Israel….Israel…..Israel and make accusations of the man without even backing them up.

  20. Dan Good
    January 8, 2013, 9:32 am

    Who knows? Maybe Hagel is just cover for getting Brennan approved. Maybe it is the “price tag” for Netanyahoo interference in the US election. Maybe Graham is gay. Maybe it’s about the defence contractors using Israel as a sales tool. Maybe all the above. Lets face it, no one knows anything for sure.

    • Dan Crowther
      January 8, 2013, 10:36 am

      “Maybe Hagel is just cover for getting Brennan approved.”

      I like this Dan Good guy.

      Let’s remember that the CIA is basically another branch of the military now, one without the restraints of the “regular” armed forces; before Petraeus got ousted, he had “successfully” shifted the CIA into a extremely large paramilitary force and Obama by all accounts love his new toy. To me, the Brennan appointment is much more important and more indicative of what Barry’s real agenda is.

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