Who knew! Donkey fellator is anti-Semitic trope

Israel/Palestine
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This was inevitable. Lloyd Grove at the Daily Beast reports on the Anti Defamation League’s letter of outrage to NBC over the Israel lobby skit that Saturday Night Live recorded but did not televise Saturday night, and that was then broadcast on the internet, featuring the immortal question: Would you fellate a donkey for Israel? So once again, a criticism of the Israel lobby is halfway suppressed (as when Walt and Mearsheimer had to go to England to publish their paper 7 years ago)– and ends up getting a ton of attention. Progress. From the Daily Beast (thanks to Kathleen): 

“[T]here inevitably will be those who say, ‘Yeah, it’s funny, but there’s some truth to all of this,’” [ADL's Abe] Foxman wrote in a letter Monday to SNL executive producer Lorne Michaels. “And for a smaller minority among those individuals, elements of the skit could play into the worst kind of ideas, even reinforcing pernicious notions of Jewish control of government in the vein of those routinely espoused by anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists and anti-Semites by suggesting that U.S. officials would even engage in public sex acts if asked to do so by Israel.”

…Foxman was far blunter in an interview with The Daily Beast, calling the sketch “overdone and overdone and overdone. It focuses on the issue of Israel to such a ridiculous extreme that we do become concerned because there is a claim out there that America’s a tool of the Israelis.” He added: “It sort of reinforces the pernicious notion of Jewish control over this government … that Israel controls the Senate.”…

Foxman—who in January raised concerns about Hagel’s past reference to “the Jewish lobby” and his positions on Israel and Iran—insisted: “We have a sense of humor and we understand that classic satire is where you poke fun.” But he suggested that SNL’s Hagel sketch should never have been staged—“How did it get this far?”—nor should it have been posted on the Internet.

It makes no difference, he said, that Michaels and many of the show’s writers and staffers happen to be Jewish. “That doesn’t excuse their insensitivity and their playing on stereotypes and selling stereotypes and forcing stereotypes,” he said.
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  1. FreddyV
    February 12, 2013, 11:15 am

    I thought there was going to be some reference to Balaam and the talking donkey.

    • Hostage
      February 12, 2013, 1:32 pm

      I thought there was going to be some reference to Balaam and the talking donkey.

      Okay, the Talmud says that “the son of Beor” denotes that Balaam committed bestiality and that it might be permissible to pray for the demise of Israel’s enemies (including of course any donkey fellators):
      * link to dafyomi.co.il
      * link to halakhah.com

      P.S. Like Balaam, Hegal was repeatedly forced to utter nice things about Israel against his own wishes?

  2. justicewillprevail
    February 12, 2013, 11:31 am

    Facepalm

  3. JonnyX
    February 12, 2013, 11:34 am

    Now I am going to HAVE to watch the video. This would explain the stretch-marks around the mouths of most of the “elected representatives”.

  4. amigo
    February 12, 2013, 11:36 am

    “It focuses on the issue of Israel to such a ridiculous extreme” Honest Abe.

    Yeah Foxman,it reminds us of the Senate Hagel Hearings that focused on the Issue of Israel to such a ridiculous extreme.

    Or are only zionist propagandists allowed the priveledge of Extremism.

    Foxman, hypocrite supreme.

    • Reds
      February 13, 2013, 7:38 am

      Correct Zionist propaganda is not only promoted but required and if say nearly the whole hearing were to focus on Israel this is acceptable, if say during/after the hearing one were to point this out the whole hearing was all about Israel than it’s clearly anti-Semitic (according to the like’s Foxman). To counter this view that the “Israeli Lobby” has a hold on congress and how it was displayed in the hearing, Abe uses the tired line “your anti-semitic” for noticing this and now any making fun of Israel (like I called previously) is forbidden(go head making fun of other groups Foxman doesn’t care)

  5. Chu
    February 12, 2013, 12:29 pm

    Lighten up Abe. Lorne (Michaels) Lipowitz was born in Israel. Funny how he can’t even get an Israeli-born to comply with his requests. Are American Jews one day going to look at Abe Foxman and see him as a kook – living in another dimension from current day?
    Sort of like Ed Koch was.

    I hope the last of them stop their defense of Israeli war crimes that continue to hurt the Palestinians and undermine the US military hypocrasy that causes the entrie nation to look like global slobs.

    • seanmcbride
      February 12, 2013, 12:49 pm

      Lorne Michaels is almost certainly a liberal Zionist — and he is serving as an Israeli gatekeeper in American popular culture.

      • Annie Robbins
        February 12, 2013, 12:57 pm

        if he’s a gatekeeper i approve of him letting this humor thru the gate, and more of it would be helpful.

      • seanmcbride
        February 12, 2013, 1:03 pm

        How exactly did this video get released to the Web? Did Michaels approve?

      • seanmcbride
        February 12, 2013, 1:27 pm

        Project: data mine SNL from its first show to the present for comparative number of satirical skits and critical remarks on African Americans, Arabs, Christians, Irish Americans, Israelis, Italian Americans, Jews, Latinos, Mormons, Muslims, Roman Catholics, etc.

        It would be interesting to peruse the summary chart and data visualization.

        I stopped watching SNL a long time ago and have no idea about its general political bent these days, if it has one.

        Does it have any political redlines? What are they?

      • Boston
        February 12, 2013, 1:36 pm

        He would have let humor thru the gate had they actually shown the skit on TV

      • Citizen
        February 12, 2013, 1:45 pm

        @ Annie Robbins

        Well, he did not let it get through the gate, or are you saying he’s the one who put it on the internet? I doubt he’s the keeper of the show’s website or even looks at that site. Does he even watch 1st draft staging of scenes as they are done?

        Still, I agree with your sentiment, and–my Dad use to say, “‘If’ is a leedle wood wit’ a BIG meaning.”

      • Annie Robbins
        February 12, 2013, 3:55 pm

        are you saying he’s the one who put it on the internet?

        no i am saying he produced it. maybe i am mistaken and he doesn’t hang out around the set/studio. at one time i read an article about how the show was produced. a skit like this isn’t just an improv that appears one night. they write these scripts and go thru readings and an approval process before they are ever rehearsed in front of an audience. there’s undoubtedly a degree of improvisation but that still doesn’t explain how this skit ever got produced without being approved first.

        foxman said SNL’s Hagel sketch should never have been staged. also, michaels probably has the power or copyright to keep this off hulu. while michael’s doesn’t personally put things on the internet there’s likely a pre arranged set up that films and saves all the rehearsals and stores them at hulu. unless michaels went out of his way to prevent this being transferred to hulu then he would have known it would be accessible there. unless he was out of town or had no idea it was produced or something, or is not a hands on producer. but my understanding is that he’s hands on.

        a gatekeeper can keep things in or out. ask yourself how michael’s could have made this a better skit. what was missing? anything? he let this thru the gate because it was performed and filmed. he produced it so he gets the credit for that.

        maybe he’ll doa donkey and say he didn’t know and throw the cast under the bus. i doubt it. let’s hope not.

      • Donald
        February 12, 2013, 4:37 pm

        James Fallows thinks they probably didn’t air the skit because it wasn’t funny enough. I agree with that–there’s about 90 seconds of humor in a skit that drags on for several minutes and is, as he says, forced. The idea is funny and the satire hits a deserving target, but it needed work.

        Fallows column on the SNL skit

  6. Andrew Pollack
    February 12, 2013, 1:09 pm

    Don’t worry, Abe: I told them the donkey was still kicking!
    10 points for anyone who remembers what joke that’s the punchline of.
    Anyway I say we’re making progress when we can ridicule “Israel” with junior high school level humor and not only get away with it, but make it go viral!!!
    Onward and downward to skits involving Avigdor Lieberman and 30 Rock’s fart machine!

    • Hostage
      February 14, 2013, 12:54 am

      Onward and downward to skits involving Avigdor Lieberman and 30 Rock’s fart machine!

      I thought the Balad party campaign ad featuring Lieberman & Co. singing HaTikvah to an Arabic beat was just classic – especially after the Central Election Committee banned it and it went viral:
      link to richardsilverstein.com

  7. American
    February 12, 2013, 1:33 pm

    “[T]here inevitably will be those who say, ‘Yeah, it’s funny, but there’s some truth to all of this,’” >>>

    Well, there is some truth to it.

    ”He added: “It sort of reinforces the pernicious notion of Jewish control over this government … that Israel controls the Senate.”…>>>

    Well, it does control the Senate on Israel policy/issues.

    “And for a smaller minority among those individuals, elements of the skit could play into the worst kind of ideas, even reinforcing pernicious notions of Jewish control of government in the vein of those routinely espoused by anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists and anti-Semites”..>>>>>

    Well, sorry old boy but you can’t keep using the anti semites as an excuse to censor the truth.

  8. MRW
    February 12, 2013, 2:06 pm

    Now I’m definitely going to use the term. But Abe Mr. Sensitivity Foxman seems to be unaware that the term is being applied to House Representatives and Senators. Or Presidential appointees.

    And that term for them is just too funny. RDFs? DDFs? The scorn goes to them. The US House of Donkey Fellators? Delish.

    • Annie Robbins
      February 12, 2013, 2:26 pm

      i think just ‘do the donkey’ would suffice. is so and so senator gonna do the donkey? or senator ricks did the donkey sponsoring the legislation.

      • MRW
        February 12, 2013, 2:37 pm

        Yeah, but I get off on the sound of ‘fellators’. It’s like potaters. (Any relationship between ‘fellator’ and ‘fellow’? Hail fellow, well met?)

      • seanmcbride
        February 12, 2013, 2:53 pm

        Annie,

        “do the donkey” — perfect. That could go viral.

      • American
        February 12, 2013, 9:37 pm

        ”Israel – firsters doing the donkey”…lol….I think that’s gonna catch on.

  9. LanceThruster
    February 12, 2013, 2:08 pm

    Would you fellate a donkey for Israel?

    How much we talking about?

    • JonnyX
      February 12, 2013, 3:46 pm

      ROFLMAO! Too much Lance! So, if he doesn’t swallow, he’s an anti-semite?

  10. pipistro
    February 12, 2013, 3:03 pm

    “selling stereotypes…”

    stereowhat? in the sense we can perceive the overwhelming armony of the Lobby, clear and separate, by each ear?

  11. Kathleen
    February 12, 2013, 3:52 pm

    Watching the committee vote on Hagel. Graham mentioned Israel once in his rejection of Hagel. Unlike how much he mentioned Israel during the nomination hearing He seemed like a baby kitten during this meeting. Went all soft. Even called Hagel a friend which I am sure not the way Hagel looks at it at this point.

  12. Les
    February 12, 2013, 4:17 pm

    Did someone who wanted more people to check out the video goad Foxman into helping to publicize it?

  13. Kathleen
    February 12, 2013, 4:34 pm

    Still watching the Senate committee on Hagel nomination.
    So now the right wing radicals are harping on Hagel for being “cozy with Iran”. Israel barely being mentioned. Graham, Cruz etc Israel ass kissing is under the spotlight so they are tip toeing a bit more. Although Senator Wicker from Miss is hammering on the “Jewish lobby” issue. Wicker is Israel ass kissing and brown nosing big time.

    Inoufe lies again repeating that Iran has said they “want to wipe Israel off the map” Never said. And then Inoufe said that Hagel has said that Israel has committed war crimes. Goldstone said they committed war crimes

  14. Kathleen
    February 12, 2013, 4:37 pm

    Senator McCaskill ripping it up during the Hagel committee hearing
    link to c-span.org

    McCaskill looked right at Inoufe and said this claim that Hagel is “cozy with Iran” is absurd. She really smacked Inoufe down

  15. Frankie P
    February 12, 2013, 7:22 pm

    Question for you, Abe Foxman: When telling the truth makes me an anti-Semite according to your definition, should I stop telling the truth and start lying?

  16. maz
    February 12, 2013, 7:32 pm

    Never heard Foxman complain about Sara Silverman’s “comedic” takes on Christianity. Guess I shouldn’t hold my breath eh?

  17. Ramzi Jaber
    February 12, 2013, 8:00 pm

    Just finished watching the entire session of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Really worth a watch, just over two hours.

    Ted Cruz is really a royal jerk. Not only he’s in the pocket of AIPAC defending Israel more than Israelis do, he’s ten feet up their you-know-what! He attacks Sen. Hagel for being supported by Iran and other “enemies” and “foreign nations” without any evidence. Of course, he doesn’t mention how he is controlled by a foreign nation.

    The good part is that Cruz gets a good beating by Sen. Nelson and Sen. McCaskill, as well as Sen. Levin.

    It is clear that Ted Cruz is an Israeli Senator: Ted Cruz (R-AIPAC), Chief Donkey Fellator for Zionists

    • sardelapasti
      February 14, 2013, 2:23 am

      Has anyone had a good look at that Cruz guy’s face and sideways profile, too?
      It is really staring at us: Without a doubt, this guy is Joseph McCarthy’s bastard grandson! Look at that face!

      • piotr
        February 14, 2013, 10:21 am

        Joseph McCarthy actually looked intelligent in many photos. Hard to find something like that for Cruz.

  18. kalithea
    February 12, 2013, 8:20 pm

    “It sort of reinforces the pernicious notion of Jewish control over this government … that Israel controls the Senate.”…

    Uh, well he doesn’t seem to have a problem with Jewish control of Israel/Palestine which is the root of the evil that grips Congress.

  19. EUR1069
    February 13, 2013, 9:54 am

    Foxman:…. “the sketch.. focuses on the issue of Israel to such a ridiculous extreme that we do become concerned because there is a claim out there that America’s a tool of the Israelis.. …It sort of reinforces the pernicious notion of Jewish control over this government … that Israel controls the Senate.”

    OH YOU DON’T SAY, ABE!!! Talking about “overreacting”: the old hoodlum exposed himself – the sketch was in no way defamatory to the Jews per se (guarding against which is ostensibly his line of business) – it made fun of U.S. legislators who made another country a priority over their own – with their pro-Israel stance bought by the same taxpayer money thy vote as financial aid to Israel. Can’t get more twisted, perverted & sick than that…

    • john h
      February 13, 2013, 11:19 pm

      “there is a claim out there that America’s a tool of the Israelis..”

      Well, let’s put it this way. Who could the donkey be, and what is claimed to be fellated?

      “Can’t get more twisted, perverted & sick than that…”

      Isn’t that what fellating a donkey is?

  20. EUR1069
    February 13, 2013, 1:42 pm

    Will it be Abe’s “shoot the clown” moment?

    Frame of reference: After the Bolshevik takeover the Cheka were merciless in stopping those who opposed the government or spoke against it even in the most casual tones. In March 1918, after the government moved from Petrograd to Moscow, a circus clown was making fun of the Bolsheviks. Cheka agents in the crowd pulled out their guns and shot several people who were laughing. True story, ya’ll. DWL!

    • Rusty Pipes
      February 14, 2013, 6:19 am

      Well, if it is a “shoot the clown” moment, do we get to post the MTM Chuckles the Clown Memorial episode?

  21. talknic
    February 14, 2013, 11:07 am

    Just a thought…

    What if the donkey has head ache?

  22. kma
    February 14, 2013, 11:14 am

    I suppose it’s anti-semitic to say that Israel controls Saturday Night Live.
    The next skit should parody Foxman.

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