Geyer says ‘many Americans’ are displeased with special relationship

Israel/Palestine
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This is bracing. In a piece on the Obama trip and America’s growing impatience with the special relationship, columnist and author Georgie Anne Geyer is frank about the sources of the Israel lobby’s power in the U.S., Jewish donors to the political process. I happen to agree with her– follow the money; and most Jews are Zionists– but agree or not, it’s the willingness to address the donor issue frankly that distinguishes her from Chris Matthews.

It’s a difficult relationship, that’s for sure, as Israel persists in the belief that the two countries, despite their mismatched size, have exactly the same strategic interests, and thus will never be called to honesty about their natural disparities. What that really means is that the U.S. must always be ready to supply Israel, whatever the threat and whatever its needs.

Many Americans have not been pleased with this imbalance between the two powers, and over the years these critics have tried to create an American/Israeli relationship that is more reasonable, that does not use Jewish campaign contributions to the party in power to ensure Israel’s every wish, and that would build a relationship that is fairer to both parties. But each time, these efforts have been derailed.

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  1. giladg
    March 23, 2013, 10:20 am

    Maybe one day the Americans will hold Muslims nations to account for acts of war they have instigated, instad of awarding them financial and military aid.

    • K Renner
      March 23, 2013, 10:11 pm

      Zionist irrelevance followed shortly by Zionist Tourette’s.

    • pjdude
      March 24, 2013, 2:35 am

      what acts of war? to my knowledge no muslim state has ever attacked the US. the fact is the only country in the middle east that has actually committed an unambigious act of war against the US was Israel.

    • Accentitude
      March 24, 2013, 3:58 am

      What act of war did Iraq instigate in order to become the frontline of the so-called “war on terror” following September 11th? None of the hijackers were Iraqis. No one in Iraq had anything to do with Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden or the plane hijackings that resulted in the fall of the twin towers….and later on when George W. Bush tried to justify the war on Iraq with the threat of nuclear and biological weapons possessed by Saddam Hussein, we learned that it was all bullshit fabricated lies. So I’m curious, what did Iraq do to instigate the war on its country, the downfall of its government and the loss of millions of lives?

      • James Canning
        March 25, 2013, 7:21 pm

        Accentitude – – Sadly, Saddam Hussein was simply too arrogant and ignorant, in the wake of the “9/11″ attacks. He gave the liar neocons, and other fanatical supporters of Israel, their opening to take him out on false pretenses.

    • Cliff
      March 24, 2013, 8:27 am

      gilad-g

      We Americans invade and destroy Muslim nations.

      We should hold Jewish nations accountable for their acts of war, instead of awarding them financial and military aide.

    • Sumud
      March 24, 2013, 9:05 am

      Without a shred of evidence or even reasoned argument gilad, you are simply demonstrating to all and sundry how demented zionists and zionism really are.

      More power to you.

    • Talkback
      March 24, 2013, 4:38 pm

      Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database: 7% Jewish extremists, 6% Islamic extremist.
      link to loonwatch.com

    • Citizen
      March 25, 2013, 6:25 am

      I’m aware of the many wars Israel has initiated in the ME, but none by any Muslim state in the ME, unless it was Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait–the USA reacted by devastating Iraq, which is now a broken nation engaged in internal strife. Israel alone gets military aid for free and with interest–no strings attached, and is in fact the biggest recipient of US aid in the entire history of the US even though it’s the size of NJ. Every time the US sells military products to a Muslim state, the US automatically gives Israel more cutting-edge products.

    • talknic
      March 25, 2013, 9:52 am

      @ giladg “Maybe one day the Americans will hold Muslims nations to account for acts of war they have instigated..”

      “acts of war”? Perhaps you mean the wars instigated by Muslim nations.

      According to the UNSC record of resolutions there are two, Iraq vs Iran and Iraq vs Kuwait.

      There are no UNSC resolutions for wars instigated by any Muslim nation against Israel or the US

    • James Canning
      March 25, 2013, 7:22 pm

      “Acts of war” such as ___________?

  2. American
    March 23, 2013, 11:06 am

    ”Georgie Anne Geyer is frank about the sources of the Israel lobby’s power in the U.S., Jewish donors to the political process. I happen to agree with her– follow the money; and most Jews are Zionists– but agree or not, it’s the willingness to address the donor issue frankly that distinguishes her from Chris Matthews.””

    This is true.
    I know a lot of anti zionist Jews don’t want to believe Zionism( active support for Israel) is as wide spread among the Jewish community as it is because it raises the disloyal or higher loyalty to Israel issue.
    But this exactly why it should be at least addressed. Perhaps it would do no good, not influence Jews on the insanity of the nation within a nation practice, or do no good because the big zionist money carries more weight regardless of what the majority of Jews are for or against.
    I don’t know….its a real can of worms. I don’t honestly see any solution to the Israeli fetish in the US among Jews or any others like the Christo Zios that doesn’t come from some really bad event that shakes it all up, or at the mildest, some awakening as the Zionist behave even more aggressively against Americans welfare.

    You know what we aren’t seeing in the slight media breakthru on Israel?….we aren’t seeing Chris Hayes or anyone giving the public the skinny on what Israel has cost Americans in $$$$….the foreign aid, the financial favoritism toward Jewish groups even domestically in the US.
    They won’t do that—because that is ‘the dynamite’ for the Jewish Lobby…..which means dynamite for the Jews….it would be called ‘incitement’ and anti semitism.
    I don’t know if this cost to Americans will come out in some kind of ending to the zionist grip on the US or not, and I have no real idea how it will end, I just don’t see how it can continue forever. It may end in a blow up or it may peter out quietly if we ever get a WH who puts a lid on the Israel lobbies and orgs —I see little hope of that though, not as long as big donor money controls elections.

  3. jimmy
    March 23, 2013, 11:24 am

    most Jews are Zionists-

    so i have ask are you a zionists phil

    and are the jews that post on this site zionists…

    • TC1995
      March 23, 2013, 3:30 pm

      Hence the use of the word “most” not “all”…

    • jimmy
      March 24, 2013, 4:09 am

      I see phi has no comment …..troubling

      • Annie Robbins
        March 24, 2013, 7:26 am

        ….troubling

        phil doesn’t have time to read all the comments. you could check his wiki page if you’re feeling impatient for an answer.

  4. Cliff
    March 23, 2013, 11:30 am

    Follow the money.

  5. Taxi
    March 23, 2013, 11:42 am

    “‘many Americans’ are displeased with special relationship”.

    I’d like to be first on that list.

  6. Citizen
    March 23, 2013, 12:10 pm

    The most important part of the Geyer observation:

    “And President Obama and his party could always look at Wednesday’s edition of Israel’s largest daily, Yedioth Ahranoth, whose headline on Page One read “Thanks,” before detailing the $233 billion the U.S. has given Israel since its founding in 1948. It was a nice gesture, and a unusually grateful one.”

    Actually, the US has given Israel much more than that, both financially, and certainly also in terms of all the US UNSC vetos it has spent against the righteous world in Israel’s sole behalf.

  7. MK_Ultra
    March 23, 2013, 2:01 pm

    “… Israel persists in the belief that the two countries, despite their mismatched size, have exactly the same strategic interests, and thus will never be called to honesty about their natural disparities. …”

    She’s right on that. ISreal and the US do have the strategic interests: land grab, genocide, colonialism/imperialism, hegemony. And they have the same exact methods of achieving it: terrorism, warmongering, violence, genocide. The interest thing will be when something happens — and something will happen because it always does — to make these two bullies go at each other’s throat and po’ po’ wittle ISreal decides that it doesn’t wanna play nice with big old sugar daddy anymore.

  8. Les
    March 23, 2013, 2:14 pm

    A friend called the White House, upon seeing Obama in Israel, to complain that this special relationship must end.

  9. radkelt
    March 23, 2013, 4:55 pm

    Unless and until we have campaign finance reform, special interests will obliterate
    hope for a just and equitable future, and perhaps a future as well.

  10. pabelmont
    March 23, 2013, 5:10 pm

    How about, “Most Jewish Zionists and Jewish.” Hmmm. Anyhow, the question is not whether USA’s and Israel’s interests are disparate, but whether USA’s decision to DEFEND Israel agianst any attack implies a decision by USA to protect Israel from non-attack fallout from (or blowback against) Israeli illegalities and human-rights abuses. Might not the USA even punish Israel (tho, of course, lovingly and understandingly — this hurts me more than it hurts you) for Irsael’s crimes as an occupier? And if we will not, why will we not (apart from money — bribes by BIG-ZION)?

    In short, what are the USA’s national interests? Need the USA threaten American Jews with anti-Semitism, perhaps, in order to scare the BIG-ZION folks into continuing to give money to a Democratic party of loving chastisement of their beloved bad boy, Israel?

  11. Taxi
    March 24, 2013, 3:13 am

    Yahoo news published Geyer’s article – interesting that yahoo didn’t allow the comments function to be activated as per usual, especially that the last paragraph of the article mentions the 233 BILLION given to israel.

    • lobewyper
      March 25, 2013, 5:59 pm

      Taxi, take another look. The comments section is alive and well as of 4:54 PM Central time.

  12. Carowhat
    March 24, 2013, 3:48 am

    I wonder sometimes who on earth decreed that there was a “special relationship” between the United States and Israel. The earliest reference I’ve seen to this supposed relationship was in some casual introductory remarks made by John Kennedy when Golda Meir visited Washington one day.

    I must say, a mighty enterprise has been built upon this slender reed. And one I’d be more than happy to dispense with it. As the bandito said in “Treasure of the Sierra Madre,” “we don’t need no stinking relationships.”

  13. hophmi
    March 25, 2013, 10:41 am

    You didn’t quote this part:

    “I can see the beginnings of a new relationship between these two countries — not political or economic, necessarily, but profoundly cultural.”

  14. James Canning
    March 25, 2013, 7:13 pm

    Bravo, Georgie Anne Geyer!

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