Israel strikes Syria, explosions rock Damascus like ‘an earthquake’

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A huge explosion shook Damascus early Sunday morning, widely reported as Israeli strikes on the outskirts of the city.  Al Jazeera spoke with a Damascus resident who described the blasts as feeling like “an earthquake” and “unprecedented.” Syrian State TV announced Israeli rockets struck a military and scientific research center on Mount Qassioun, outside the capital city. 

(Update below)

The missile strikes have spiked international tensions.




Here is Reuters’ initial report: Explosions shake Damascus, Syria blames Israel

Explosions shook Damascus early on Sunday and Syrian state television said Israeli rockets had struck a military research centre on the outskirts of the capital.

The blasts occurred a day after an Israeli official said his country had carried out an air strike targeting a consignment of missiles in Syria. The research centre hit on Sunday was also targeted by Israel in January.

“The new Israeli attack is an attempt to raise the morale of the terrorist groups which have been reeling from strikes by our noble army,” Syrian television said, referring to recent offensives by President Bashar al-Assad’s forces against rebels.

There was no immediate comment from Israeli officials on Sunday’s explosions. “We don’t respond to this kind of report,” an Israeli military spokeswoman told Reuters.

The U.S. State Department had no immediate comment and the Israeli Embassy in Washington declined comment.

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Video footage uploaded onto the Internet by activists showed a huge ball of fire rising into the night sky on the edge of the Syrian capital.

In oddly timed synchonization, 30 minutes prior to Reuter’s initial breaking report of the Sunday morning strike, both the New York Times and the Washington Post published reports of Israel attacking Syria on Friday, mirroring their earlier attack in January,  allegedly aimed at ‘shipment of missiles bound for Hezbollah.’

The Washington Post reports Friday’s attack , Israel launches second airstrike in Syria, targeting weapons shipment:

Israeli warplanes have attacked a shipment of missiles at Damascus International Airport that was bound for Lebanon’s Hezbollah movement, officials from the United States, Israel and Lebanon told reporters Saturday.

The attack Friday coincided with mounting pressure on the Obama administration to formulate a response to the growing risk of weapons proliferation in the Syrian war, notably the possibility that chemical weapons are being used in the conflict and could fall into the hands of extremists.

Their report has now been updated with coverage of Sunday’s attack, citing the official Syrian Arab News Agency:

“The Israeli aggression comes at a time when our armed forces are scoring victories against terrorism and al-Qaeda gangs,” state television said……..An anonymous intelligence official in the Middle East confirmed state media reports that the strikes were carried out by Israeli warplanes, according to the Associated Press.

After Friday’s attack Obama justified Israel’s right to defend itself. AP:

President Barack Obama said Saturday, before the latest incident, that it was up to Israel to confirm or deny any strikes, but that the U.S. coordinates very closely with Israel.
“The Israelis, justifiably, have to guard against the transfer of advanced weaponry to terrorist organizations like Hezbollah,” Obama told the Spanish-language TV station Telemundo.

Israel has yet to confirm they are responsible for Sunday’s attack– although it has confirmed its Friday attack on Syria. Al Jazeera:

There was no immediate comment from Israeli officials on Sunday’s explosions.

“We don’t respond to this kind of report,” an Israeli military spokeswoman told the Reuters news agency.

The US State Department had no immediate comment and the Israeli Embassy in Washington declined comment.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a London-based watchdog group, has also reported several explosions in the capital and its surrounding countryside.

The Syrian state media claims, reported by the Reuters news agency, come after Israel confirmed that its air force hit a shipment of missiles in Syria bound for Hezbollah.

Update: The National Coalition of Syria Revolution of Opposition Forces (NCS) have released a statement condemning the Israeli attacks, holding the Assad regime “fully responsible for weakening the Syrian Army” and asserting they are “suspicious of the timing of this attack”:

Media Statement
Syrian Coalition Media Office
Istanbul, Turkey
May 5, 2013

The Syrian Coalition condemns the Israeli attacks on the Syrian Center for Scientific Research in Jamaraya near Damascus. The Coalition holds the Assad regime fully responsible for weakening the Syrian Army by exhausting its forces in a losing battle against the Syrian people; who are the reason for its existence.

It is clear that the regime, which claims to be an opposing force, is instead weakening Syria in the face of an enemy. Until this point, the regime has worked at maintaining the best interests of the Assad family and the Assad rule. This has lead to wasted human capacity, a declining economy and weakened national foundations, which are gradually bringing the nation closer to total collapse.

The Syrian Coalition is suspicious of the timing of this attack. These strikes have given the regime the necessary time to draw attention away from its crimes and massacres on the Syrian coast. It is not unlikely that as a result of these attacks, and world distraction, more crimes will be committed.

We call on the Syrian people to hold steadfast onto the revolution, and to reject the regime’s consistent aggression against the interests of the country and its people. We ask the Syrian people to continue working towards our goal of ridding the country of the destruction and chaos created by the Assad ruling family, who has consistently allowed its interests to take precedent over national interests.

The Syrian Coalition deeply regrets the deafening silence and powerlessness of the international community in the face of such grievous violations of international laws, continued by the Assad regime and taken advantage of by Israel in order to fulfill clear objectives. We urge the Security Council, with the support of the international community, to fulfill their duties to save the Syrian people in this time of crisis; and we renew our call for them to do whatever necessary to save the Syrian people.

We ask for Mercy for our martyrs, health for our wounded and freedom for our prisoners.

Long live Syria and its people, free and with honor.
 

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  1. Tzombo
    May 5, 2013, 11:56 am

    So Israel is al Qaeda’s airforce now?

    • Citizen
      May 5, 2013, 12:37 pm

      @ Tzombo
      Israel thinks like Rahm Immanuel, US citizen and former Israeli tank tread cleaner In Israel, and former gate-keeper for Obama in the WH, and now, mayor of Chicago: “Never lose an opportunity to take advantage of an opportunity.”

      From a Zionist POV, Israel is doing just that, in furtherance of the Zionist agenda.

  2. Citizen
    May 5, 2013, 12:26 pm

    So, the proxy war between US/Israel/Britain/Canada versus Iran/Syria/Russia (& remotely, China) is now out in the open. Both the left-leaning Dick & Jane news source (MSNBC) and the right-wing Dick & Jane news source (Fox News) are bringing in pundits and a host narrative that there’s no sky between US and Israel’s interests. Obama is painted as, at best, too shaky, wishy-washy, reluctant on what he needs to do–support Israel, join it by bombing Assad regime assets ASAP. Obama’s already said no US boots on the ground will be in Syria. But, hey, he’s the Drone Prez–US doesn’t need boots in the ground anymore–err, except he just sent some to Jordan. As we all know from JFK years, that’s how we got into the Vietnam war, just a few initial consultants and tekkies.

    • seafoid
      May 5, 2013, 4:15 pm

      The position of the US MSM is no accident. It is the result of a lot of work and money that ordinary Americans know nothing about the Middle East.

  3. Citizen
    May 5, 2013, 12:29 pm

    All US TV cable TV news shows supporting Israel has a right to defend itself. Obama:
    “We don’t take any options off the table. I can say, I don’t see any US boots on the ground in Syria, right now.”

  4. Ecru
    May 5, 2013, 12:33 pm

    Zionist Israel just won’t stop until they manage to start WWIII. Now, in self defence (not to mention plain defence of the human race) should the rest of the planet now attack Israel before it’s too late? I’m beginning to think so.

  5. American
    May 5, 2013, 12:34 pm

    Resumed assassinations and air strikes on Gaza by Isr.
    Israel overflight volations of Lebanon air space now increased to reported 14 incidents a day.
    Two bombings of Syria .
    Israel wants that WWIII in the ME…wont stop till it gets it.

  6. Kathleen
    May 5, 2013, 12:54 pm

    Quite the conversation about these Israeli strikes on Syria going on over here
    link to huffingtonpost.com

  7. Sumud
    May 5, 2013, 1:12 pm

    Once again “little Israel”, perpetual victim in a “tough neighbourhood”, attacks one of the neighbours without provocation of any sort.

    • Kathleen
      May 6, 2013, 12:05 am

      Exactly…all the while blaming everyone else for their violent aggression. You made me hit you…. We have seen this picture before

  8. rensanceman
    May 5, 2013, 1:27 pm

    The unified message of our MSM regarding the Syrian situation is that the U.S. should “do something” to stop this humanitarian disaster—which had been engineered by the U.S. and Israel.
    As Citizen mentioned, the PNAC check list is almost complete: Libya, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Somalia, all nation-states that are a threat to stymie region-wide hegemony for Israel, have and are being militarily neutered by our mighty war machine.
    Zionism apparently does need constant wars to maintain the fiction that tiny Israel, surrounded by aggressive neighbors must protect itself , and in the process bomb other surrounding countries and violate air space with impunity.

    If only Harry Truman were alive today to see the monster he helped create.

    • traintosiberia
      May 5, 2013, 5:59 pm

      He was a monster. He did more damages to US by transitioning the country to war mode for next 60 years through hyperbole on cold war ,defense spending,and creating CIA.

      BTY did his daughter write/say that Zionist agents tried to kill him? Or was it aan anti Jewish propaganda?

  9. American
    May 5, 2013, 1:53 pm

    I’ve been looking into the latest on the US -ME oil import dependence …. and also vr China’s.
    link to eia.gov
    (Energy Information Agency)….(it’s complicated)
    Simpler explanation here…..link to theatlantic.com

    There is no way to explain US actions (or threats) in the ME as driven by US oil concerns or dependence……our dependence fluctuates from year to year and no single ME country is our biggest supplier….Saudi 14%- Canada 29% for example.
    “If’ we were critically’ dependent on the ME we would be avoiding at all cost any threat to stability like an Iran attack.
    “If’ we were less dependent (as we are lately) we would have no huge incentive to control the ME governments or countries.

    The Chomsky’s I am sure will say if the US allows a Iran strike it is by ‘imperial design for world or US elites’ profit. I don’t think that’s going to hold water this time. Any interruption in oil supply would threaten US refineries who make their profit from ‘refining’ various grades of crude and also export a % of it abroad. It would also threaten a sector of Saudi profits because they own interest in some of the largest US refineries…double dipping by selling the oil and then profiting from their share of US refined oil sales. The only way this reduced supply could be compensated for would be driving prices into the stratosphere….which would only restrict the demand.
    I do not think any one could even attribute it to some diabolical plan by the US to oil starve our main economic competitor, China who depends mostly on ME oil, because any oil upset would affect many other countries and in turn affect US trade economically.
    I can’t find anything to explain US actions except ‘political’……can’t find anything to explain Saudi involvement in Syria or Iran US actions except political, putting down the Shiite and AQ surge they fear might eventually take away their thrones….nothing to explain Israel except their goal of ME dominance.

    If anyone here can show me where there is some actual practical profit or security interest for the US, or any elite profit to be gained by any elites except the vultures that would circle a ME conflagration—and they likely wouldn’t be Western—- I would love to see it.

    • traintosiberia
      May 5, 2013, 10:21 pm

      Chomsky has started shifting his position-

      “Chomsky Acknowledges the Neocons as the Dominant Force in Pushing for Iraq War”
      By Stephen J. Sniegoski
      The Passionate Attachment
      March 7, 2012
      Sniegoski has thanked for this information same James Morris who unearthed the e mail exchanges between Max Boot and General David Petraeus,
      link to thepassionateattachment.com

  10. Justpassingby
    May 5, 2013, 1:58 pm

    Beating a victim while crying, thats what Israel is doing.

    Obama once again giving green light to war crimes. Reprehensible.

  11. Les
    May 5, 2013, 2:24 pm

    Keep in mind that the US prevents Lebanon from having modern weapons, lest it be able to resist Israel’s land and air invasions. That being the case, in Lebanon the only force able and willing to defend the country against Israel is Hezbollah.

    • talknic
      May 6, 2013, 2:58 am

      Les “in Lebanon the only force able and willing to defend the country against Israel is Hezbollah”

      Ever wondered why? link to wp.me

  12. biorabbi
    May 5, 2013, 3:07 pm

    Annie, there is something surreal about the arabic ‘god is great’ chant in response to the IDF strike on the Mount Qassioun complex. Al Manar(and RT initially) also claimed two IDF pilots were captured and the entire raid’s main outcome was to decimate a poultry farm, showing razed chickens.

    • Annie Robbins
      May 5, 2013, 3:13 pm

      yes, i read early tweets last night about the claim of capturing two IDF pilots.

      sort of an overkill for a bunch of chickens don’t you think? i’ve heard nothing of this so far.

      there is something surreal about the arabic ‘god is great’ chant in response to the IDF strike on the Mount Qassioun complex

      agreed.

      • Sumud
        May 5, 2013, 8:01 pm

        sort of an overkill for a bunch of chickens don’t you think? i’ve heard nothing of this so far.

        Overkill to us maybe, but if you recall the IDF have previously felt so threatened by chickens in Gaza in 2008/2009 they killed about 170,000 by flattening the pens with bulldozers with the poor animals still inside.

        I could almost understand if they were killing pigs for religious reasons, but chickens???

      • RoHa
        May 6, 2013, 1:40 am

        Swarthy, unshaven, wild-eyed, fanatical, Jew-hating, Palestinian suicide-bomber terrorist chickens, remember.

      • tree
        May 6, 2013, 3:46 am

        Swarthy, unshaven, wild-eyed, fanatical, Jew-hating, Palestinian suicide-bomber terrorist chickens, remember.

        If only those hateful terrorist chickens had loved their chicks more than they hated Israel, the IDF wouldn’t have been forced to make chicken hash out of all of them. The poor IDF soldiers probably weep every time they bite into a Chicken McNugget these days, thinking about how traumatized they were by the violence they were forced to commit.

      • Inanna
        May 5, 2013, 10:33 pm

        No Annie, please don’t agree.

        Allahu Akbar is said for a variety of reasons. You’ll find in Arabic a variety of phrases that are used for different occasions, many invoking the name of God. In this context, it is said as a submission to the will of God and to comfort oneself and others when a terrible event occurs. I get really upset when non-Arabic speaker and those who don’t understand Arab culture like biorabbi think that they can pass judgement on our language and culture.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 5, 2013, 11:04 pm

        thanks Inanna, excuse me and i stand corrected.

      • tree
        May 6, 2013, 1:16 am

        Correct me if I’m wrong on this, but my understanding is that one of the ways that “Allahu Akbar” is used is similar to the context in which we in the US might say, “Jesus Christ!”, which might likewise sound strange to a foreign being who only understood Jesus Christ to be one aspect of the Christian deity.

        In other words, if you could understand how “Jesus Christ!” could be uttered in response to an aerial assault, you should be able to understand the use of the phrase, “Allau Akbar” in a similar instance.

      • bintbiba
        May 6, 2013, 7:34 am

        Thank you Inanna. Arab culture is so ignored, even non Muslims( as myself)Know Allahu Akbar is invoked when in state of shock ,or in state of
        jubilation, grief or horror!
        It is not to be taken as a bellicose exclamation. Same as your “good god”! exclamation. It is a passe-partout .

    • thankgodimatheist
      May 6, 2013, 5:36 am

      “there is something surreal about the arabic ‘god is great’ chant in response to the IDF strike on the Mount Qassioun complex.”
      Biorabbi
      The chant AllahouAkbar is not always meant as cheering or praising, it’s an invocation that can also be used when one is facing or witnessing something terrible happening. In this video the rebels are doing the same while the scuds of the (official) Syrian army are pounding a rebel position. Obviously not a reason to cheer.

      Edit:
      I can see now that Inanna beat me to it.

  13. Walid
    May 5, 2013, 3:11 pm

    Why didn’t Iran deliver the “arms-for-Hizbullah” directly to Lebanon instead of landing them in war-torn Syria?

    • Annie Robbins
      May 5, 2013, 3:15 pm

      walid, i think the ‘delivering arms to hezbollah’ angle is just propaganda/excuse.

      • biorabbi
        May 5, 2013, 4:25 pm

        It could be a fraction of the entire reason. Turkey, Israel, and Jordan may be fearful of latest Assad military success over the past few weeks.

      • Danaa
        May 5, 2013, 6:28 pm

        annie, on that I think there’s general agreement. The “arms for hezbollah” is just the agreed-upon excuse.

        Now where are those Russian ships headed for the Mediterranean? aren’t they supposed to pass through the Suez canal this coming weekend? perhaps Israel wanted to do something (the kind of thing they are fond of doing) just a bit a head of time?

  14. ivri
    May 5, 2013, 3:12 pm

    Real simply: From Israel`s point of view Iran has to be confronted before it gets nukes – almost everybody in Israel sees that as too scary to live with. A direct attack is too hard to accomplish due to a host of difficulties (including the globally unpalatable aspect of Israel being seen as an aggressor in attacking Iran). Critically, whether the US will do the job (by its own calculations or due to the threat to its Arab allies and to Israel) is not clear.
    This huge existential dilemma for Israel (and other worried parties) may have a “Syrian solution”. The Iranians and Nassaralah announced that they will not let Assad to fall, which means they will be dragged into a final conflict over Syria (with possible intervention there of the US and the West, this time with a clear excuse and case) BEFORE they have the nukes.

    • seafoid
      May 5, 2013, 3:55 pm

      Painting iran as nuke holding darkness is counterproductive not to mention naive. US power in the region is faltering . Israel is diplomatically isolated. Iran may well get the bomb. What will israel do the following monday? Who actually needs a Jewish sparta anyway?

    • Daniel Rich
      May 5, 2013, 5:56 pm

      @ ivri,

      Q: (including the globally unpalatable aspect of Israel being seen as an aggressor in attacking Iran)

      R: … O_O …

      I dunno what planet you live on, but on the rock I hold on to [and as you can read on this comment section] the real rest of the world has had it with Israel and all the negativity [being very PC here] it stands for. Time to move to Florida.

    • Danaa
      May 5, 2013, 6:19 pm

      ivri, why are Iran nukes – were it to ever get them – perceived as existential threat to israel? and is there anything israel doesn’t like that is NOT perceived as “existential threat”?

      One would think that it is the huge supply of israeli nukes are an existential threat to America and Europe – much less to Iran and Turkey – a threat far more immediate and real than anything Iran may or may not have, given that israel is such a dysfunctional obssessive entity centered strictly on its own neurosis, which it tries to sell as self-interest. So why not support a dismantling of Israel’s WMDs? (including the extensive chemical and biological ones, of course).

      there is, in fact, every indication that Israel’s arsenal of WMD’s, coupled with having taken US foreign (and to some extent, domestic) politics hostage is the greatest threat the world is currently facing. Some would even say that if not for the Israeli ever present paranoia-on-steroids and its ethnocentric self absorbed muckraking assortment of complexes, why – most of the world could concentrate on important threats to the planet, of which we have plenty.

      It’s time to raise up the calls for a nuke-free middle east, israel being the first in line. That might have amazing effects on quelling the paranoia and perhaps helping curtail the horrific human rights abuses and daily well documented atrocities perpetrated by israelis against other members of the human race whose presence in their midst israelis find annoying.

      • Rusty Pipes
        May 6, 2013, 7:16 pm

        “is there anything israel doesn’t like that is NOT perceived as “existential threat”?” But surely if Americans shout “we do believe in fairies” and clap long enough, that will help Israel recover from any existential threat.

  15. seafoid
    May 5, 2013, 3:51 pm

    It looks like a ‘pour encourager les autres’ action by Israel. Clear violation of sovereignty. Imagine Saudi bombing ben gurion airport and the outcry. Yossi Israeli probably needed a bombing to calm his nerves but this sunni vs shia thing is well beyond the capacity of idf puppeteering. Israel has no traction with the people of the region after 65 years. That says it all, really.

  16. ToivoS
    May 5, 2013, 3:58 pm

    Now that Israel is openly backing the FSA and their Al qaida militias will have major political reactions in the ME. Turkey’s support for the rebels has never had a majority backing of its people. This will likely result in more direct popular opposition to their government’s role. No way that the Turkish people will support an Israeli attack on a fellow Muslim nation. I suspect we will also see more active support for the Assad government in Egypt. Even the Saudi and Qatar backed militias inside Syria will begin wondering if entering into an alliance with Israel is such a good idea. I have no idea how the internal politics inside the Gulf monarchies work, but there must be some serious doubts even there about where their governments are leading them.

    Hard to predict how this will play out but I am leaning towards the notion that the US and Israel will be big losers in whatever happens. At least we will be even more diplomatically and politically isolated from the rest of the ME.

    • biorabbi
      May 5, 2013, 4:34 pm

      ToivioS, Egypt have condemned the strike as has the Arab League. But little public outcry. Pro forma stuff. Do you really believe there will be mourning in the arab street for elite Alawite units being eliminated? This may also be a calculation by the Syrian neighbors to end the conflict sooner rather than later. By wiping out Assad’s elite troops/weapons/command structure, you could tip the balance against him. The level of vitriol expressed by Edrogan against Assad today makes me thinks the strikes are not over and that all options are on the table against Syria. Assad hasn’t exactly acted in a saintly manner towards Sunni Muslims in the past two years. How much sympathy can he elicit on the arab street?

      • Annie Robbins
        May 5, 2013, 7:11 pm

        mourning in the arab street for elite Alawite units being eliminated?

        biorabbi, can you back up this “elite Alawite units” propaganda? there are lots of syrians supporting assad besides ‘elite Alawites.’ or do you imagine they are some superhuman force fighting off the rest of syria with the help of a few foreigners, because that is not the case.

    • ivri
      May 5, 2013, 4:48 pm

      TovioS, I don`t think your reading of the situation is realistic. The anti-Assad forces are too deep into it and Israel, its interests and acts (of miniscule relevance to the internal conflict itself), is a complete sideline show for them. Turkey is indeed unhappy about the Israeli acts – it hopes to be the main benefactor of the post-Assad era and wants no other hands there – but it is too much tied to the US-West camp there now. What seems likely is that the gradual (and seemingly inevitable) disintegration of the Iran-Syria-Hezbollah axis, will strengthen the US-Saudi -Gulf emirates-Jordan (and even Egypt) camp

      • ToivoS
        May 5, 2013, 5:31 pm

        I agree that so far Israel’s military acts are not really significant. The important message is that the FSA, Turkey, the Gulf monarchies and Israel are in an alliance against a Muslim state. This will strengthen the Iran-Iraq-Syria-Hezbollah coalition — the message being sent out to the Arab world is that is the true anti-Zionist coalition while those who ally with Israel and the US are the traitors. It is probably the best news Assad could desired.

      • seafoid
        May 6, 2013, 5:19 am

        “What seems likely is that the gradual (and seemingly inevitable) disintegration of the Iran-Syria-Hezbollah axis, will strengthen the US-Saudi -Gulf emirates-Jordan (and even Egypt) camp”

        Iran- Syria-Hezb = Shia
        US -Saudi- Khaleeji-Jordan = Sunni/bot

        The notion that Israel or the Yanks can influence a wider Shia / sunni conflagration is nuts.

        Bahrain could be tipped over into civil war any time the Iranians fancy.
        Similarly with that Saudi Shia province.

        The house of Saud doesn’t want that sort of hanky panky. Very easy to start a war. Not so easy to manage one subsequently .

      • Annie Robbins
        May 6, 2013, 11:02 am

        The house of Saud doesn’t want that sort of hanky panky.

        fyi: Saudi Arabia urges UN action against Israel strikes on Syria
        link to now.mmedia.me

    • traintosiberia
      May 5, 2013, 6:04 pm

      Are Qatar and Saudi supporting voluntarily? Or are they being held hostage to some deeper scheme of adverse possibilities?

      • Annie Robbins
        May 5, 2013, 7:04 pm

        qatar hosted the doha meeting. they are definitely not being dragged along. SA either i would imagine.

    • thankgodimatheist
      May 6, 2013, 5:58 am

      “Even the Saudi and Qatar backed militias inside Syria will begin wondering if entering into an alliance with Israel is such a good idea.”
      ToivoS
      They’re not thinking of “entering” an alliance because they are in one already and for quite sometime.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 6, 2013, 11:04 am

        tgia, not sure if the individual members of these militias see themselves as such.

      • ToivoS
        May 6, 2013, 7:22 pm

        annie says: tgia, not sure if the individual members of these militias see themselves as such.

        Absolutely correct annie. Once those fools realize that they are in effect fighting inside an alliance that involves Zionist forces, that alliance will unravel quickly. To be sure many of them are mercenaries being paid paid by the Gulf monarchies but they are also motivated by religious conviction. Once it enters into their thick skulls that they are fighting on the side of US imperialism and Zionism, I suspect there could some interesting changes in loyalties.

      • gamal
        May 6, 2013, 9:01 pm

        “To be sure many of them are mercenaries being paid paid by the Gulf monarchies” ok ah “but” and “they are also motivated by religious conviction.” you know this how?

  17. biorabbi
    May 5, 2013, 4:23 pm

    link to hurriyetdailynews.com

    Hopefully, this link works. I believe the Turkish leaders comment is being drowned out in the midst of the Israeli air strike. I believe the Syrians, the Israelis, and the Jordanians have been carefully sharing intel and are coordinating between themselves and among Assad’s foes.

    Some of the targets may not be revealed initially. I believe Turkey gave Israel a laundry list of high-value targets to include here, aimed at tipping the balance. Don’t forget that Assad has lately been on a military role, while keeping his most Alawite Republican guards in reserve. I do not believe Israel would have done this specific set of targets without Turkish–Israeli talks and the Israeli apology.

    After the Israeli apology, Netanyahu and others said it was all about Syria. I didn’t get it at the time. I do now. Yes, Israeli obviously hit an arms depot. But, they also hit key targets out of reach to the FSA. This was a key, unpublicized, part of the Syrian–Israel agreement. A private understanding.

    Israel, Jordan, and Turkey concluded Assad will do nothing in response. He has his hands full at home.

    • Annie Robbins
      May 5, 2013, 5:12 pm

      I do not believe Israel would have done this specific set of targets without Turkish–Israeli talks

      why? this is the second time someone has posted something making it look like israel did this as a favor to another country. don’t you think israel acts in it’s own national interest, or just being helpful for turkey or the US?

      • biorabbi
        May 5, 2013, 5:17 pm

        Annie, yes I do believe that rockets were targeted and this is in Israel’s interest, but the scale of the blasts tells me this is more than hitting weapons headed for Lebanon. And I believe Jordanian/Turkish/Saudi/gulf arab states intel inside of Syria is superior to Israel. Could be a simple collusion of interests in a dysfunctional world.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 5, 2013, 6:05 pm

        biorabbi, what’s fairly clear is the opposition (edit: some of them anyway) inside syria knew about it, as evidenced by the camera aimed right at the site..lay in wait. and then attacks resumed immediately. i would imaging all the countries funding the opposition were aware of it. whoever is running this show. let’s just wait a little while as the reports come out instead of hypothesizing about the level of destruction. remember, this is an info war as much as anything else, so it’s in the interests of the parties involved to always sound like their adversaries are taking big loses. let me know when you have source links. i can go to the opposition propaganda twitter feeds myself. as can anyone. i really don’t need rumors. i want msm. someone with something to loose (like a reputation) on the other end. thanks

        ps, i don’t think for one minute this is about hitting weapons headed for Lebanon. no one believes anything israel says. anyone who believes that is a fool.

      • ToivoS
        May 5, 2013, 7:20 pm

        annie, I think biorabbi is on to something. This is evidence of a secret understanding between Israel, the FSA, Turkey and probably the Gulf monarchies to destroy the Syrian government. The fact that Barak was in Istanbul recently is probably relevant (link to 972mag.com).

        This information needs to be widely known. The anti-Assad forces are working with the Zionists. We all know that a majority of the Turkish public have been against their government’s involvement in this war against Syria. If the Turkish public realizes that means they are now allied with Israel in this war then it seems only natural that a strong public opposition could emerge. This could be the issue to undermine public support for the Turkish Muslim Brotherhood movement. This could be an issue that could topple the current government.

        It seems totally insane to me that the Western supported puppet regimes in the ME could survive if those regimes are openly identified with US and Israeli wars against brother Muslims in Syria.

      • seafoid
        May 5, 2013, 10:24 pm

        If they are working with the bots it could end up like the Lebanese civil war with all the parties who changed sides depending on how the wind blew. If the Syrian rebels are fighting with Israel then the bots are with the jihadis.
        And that’s like working on a maths problem where the answer is 2=4.

        Because Israel does not have a long term strategic interest in boosting jihad. If those dudes ever make it into Erez Israel the game will be changed significantly.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 6, 2013, 12:01 am

        toivo, i think the turkish public already knows about this.
        link to hurriyetdailynews.com

        btw, there is no better well placed source to break hot propaganda. you wanna believe it? it’s all yours:

        link to thesundaytimes.co.uk

      • ToivoS
        May 6, 2013, 12:22 am

        Good links annie. I suspect that the Turkish public is more politically sophisticated than your average Westerner. Their government is also aware of the dangerous game that they are playing (from your link):

        “These are manipulative reports which have nothing to do with the reality,” a Turkish Foreign Ministry official told Hürriyet Daily News.

        As Claude Cockburn once said “never believe a story until it is officially denied”. We should accept that the Turkish government has entered into secret agreements with Israel. I hope that the Turkish people will deal properly with the current Muslim Brotherhood government.

      • hophmi
        May 6, 2013, 11:13 am

        “ps, i don’t think for one minute this is about hitting weapons headed for Lebanon. no one believes anything israel says. anyone who believes that is a fool.”

        So why was it done? For fun? Please answer the question, since you don’t think it has anything to do with the guerrilla proxy Syria uses to destabilize Lebanon and threaten Israeli civilians.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 6, 2013, 11:26 am

        probably israel trying to degrade Assad’s military capabilities. that seems like a logical conclusion for why someone would attack a military installation. crazy me. and don’t talk about what i do and do not believe as if you’re citing me. silly hasbara technique. threaten Israeli civilians my a**.

        also i think it’s fairly certain w/all the hasbara coming out of israeli op eds one intent was to humiliate assad and make the point they really can’t respond or israel would plummet them, which i’m sure they’d use any excuse to do. we’re not idiots hops. as i just pointed out here link to mondoweiss.net israel did the exact same thing in january and lied about it. same ‘weapons convoy’ excuse. a bunch of bs. and of course the US mimics israel. but what a coincidence! now they just so happen to hit the exact target assad claimed they hit in january! israel lies all the time.

      • hophmi
        May 6, 2013, 11:37 am

        “probably israel trying to degrade Assad’s military capabilities.”

        Why? Because that’s the most convenient political explanation?

        “. threaten Israeli civilians my a**. ”

        Yeah, Hezbollah has lobbed missiles into Israel’s north. Remember that? Or do Jewish lives not matter to you?

        “also i think it’s fairly certain w/all the hasbara coming out of israeli op eds one intent was to humiliate assad and make the point they really can’t respond or israel would plummet them”

        Why? Do you think Israel wants Assad out? According to whose analysis? Israel’s had a quiet border with Syria for decades. So put aside your Israelis-are-all-evil blinders and ask whether what you’re writing makes any sense.

      • marc b.
        May 6, 2013, 1:27 pm

        probably israel trying to degrade Assad’s military capabilities.

        that and testing air defenses. just like in s.lebanon. send in a few planes and wait to see what air defenses are activated. Israel just needed the cover of the sarin nonsense so nobody would get too upset about its serial violations of neighbors’ air space.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 6, 2013, 1:45 pm

        i agree marc. i just read something about that this morning. testing to determine the feasibility of creating a no fly zone.

      • marc b.
        May 6, 2013, 2:21 pm

        hophmi to annie today:

        Or do Jewish lives not matter to you?

        earlier, hophmi says:

        March 20, 2013 at 9:38 am
        I could care less that Christian killed Christians in endless intraChristian wars.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 6, 2013, 4:06 pm

        marc b,re testing defenses, Anthony H. Cordesman:

        link to csis.org

        Israel’s success does indicate that the purely military risks in enforcing some form of no fly or no move zone are now more limited that when the fighting in Syria began. At the same time, this does not mean that Syria could not put up a defense or that the US could simply rely on a few strikes or threats to either destroy Syria’s air defense or intimidate it into complying with US demands.

        The practical problem is that we do not know how many stand-off weapons were used, how far the Israeli Air Force (IAF) aircraft had to penetrate, or the real-world readiness of Syrian air defenses.

        We do not know if Syria has seriously tried to halt IAF attacks. Syria has not been able to use these systems effectively against Israel since the early 1980s. Syria may be willing to wait out limited IAF strikes rather than reveal the electronic order of battle and send signals that would help Israel develop improved methods of suppression during a limited attack.

        We know most of the Syrian longer-range surface-based air defenses are still largely active and provide overlapping coverage of much of the country. But they also have aging surface-to-air missiles (SAM) that have been only partially upgraded and are vulnerable to jamming and other electronic countermeasures, as well as antiradiation missiles.

        making the most sense what they are up to. i think there’s pressure to get the US to commit to a no fly zone.

      • tree
        May 6, 2013, 4:46 pm

        March 20, 2013 at 9:38 am
        I could care less that Christian killed Christians in endless intraChristian wars.

        Yup, that’s our hophmi, although I’m sure he meant to say. “I couldn’t care less.” Putting the “hip” in hypocrisy.

        Twenty one Jewish Israelis were killed by Hezbollah rockets in the 2006 Lebanon War. Eighteen Palestinian Israelis (almost half of the total of Israeli civilian casualties) were likewise killed by those rockets, but only the Jewish lives lost count to Hophmi. And we know that Hophmi cares not a whit about the 1000 plus Lebanese civilian casualties killed by Israel during the 2006, nor does he care about the hundreds of Lebanese civilians killed or injured in the ensuing years by Israeli cluster bombs dropped in the final hours before the 2006 cease fire took effect.

        link to antiwar.com

        link to electronicintifada.net

        Note: The official Israeli civilian casualty list is 43, but 4 of those are listed as heart attacks. I didn’t count those in my totals. None of the eighteen Palestinian Israeli casualties were caused by heart attacks.

      • RoHa
        May 6, 2013, 8:35 pm

        ‘hophmi to annie today:

        Or do Jewish lives not matter to you?

        Annie has this weird, anti-Semitic, idea that the lives of non-Jews matter as well. I hope she doesn’t think that they matter as much as Jewish lives. That would be just silly.

      • Daniel Rich
        May 7, 2013, 12:37 am

        @ Annie Robbins,

        Q: i think there’s pressure to get the US to commit to a no fly zone.

        R: There must be logic behind this ‘madness’ and although everyone [including myself] has to second guess as to what the real goal of these incursions is, the fact that international laws have been broken [repeatedly] without the ‘concerned world community’ blinking an eye, turns western ‘morality’ into a rapidly decomposing farce. France supporting the terrorists in Syria, whilst bombing them in Mali? Hypocrites. All of them.

  18. American
    May 5, 2013, 4:28 pm

    If you listen to the Obama adm’s statements quoted by the news (and who knows if the news makes them up with ‘unnamed sources” half the time) you get the impression that ….1) US intell doesn’t really know exactly what’s what in Syria…..or 2) they do know but it’s such a cans of worms with so many rats in the woodpile they dont know what the fuck to do about it.
    This now a FUBAR that cant be unwound.

  19. biorabbi
    May 5, 2013, 4:45 pm

    Al Manar would appear to resemble FOX news. The B role shows utter devastation as far as the eye can see, except for a few unscathed roosters!

    • Annie Robbins
      May 5, 2013, 5:15 pm

      did you watch the last video of the article? looked like a fairly big boom. i didn’t see the ‘far as the eye can see’ part. do you mean you think the video was photoshopped. which minute/second in?

      • Daniel Rich
        May 5, 2013, 8:20 pm

        @ Annie Robbins,

        You can’t ‘photoshop’ video.

        You can ‘photoshop’ images.

        As video runs at a speed of in between [NTSC/PAL DV Widescreen] 23,97 to [HDTV 1080] 29,97 frames [images] per second you either use green or blue backgrounds to alter the scene to your liking, in, for example Adobe After Effects.

        It is possible to use a still of [say] an overflight of a volcano [one single frame] and alter it [again in After Effects] to make it look like the volcano’s actually belching out ash/steam and ‘we’ are moving/flying over it.

        Personally I’m inclined to think along the line/s of the recent [successful] actions of the regular Syrian Army and the fact that the ‘international community’ looks rather ridiculous, killing ‘terrorists’ in Mali, Afghanistan and everywhere else, but boldly supports them when they’re on ‘our’ side.

  20. biorabbi
    May 5, 2013, 5:23 pm

    No, but the last video shows the gigantic scale of the attack. The next morning there is an video showing some sort of chicken clucking away on top of utter destruction. On the one hand, the Syrians are truthfully claiming the Israelis did the strike, but, falsely claiming that they hit useless targets like a chicken coup, gas station, research facility. I believe the Syrians are hiding what was destroyed and the Israelis are remaining mum. What is going around the Syrian twitter rumor mill is that Maher Assad’s elite reserve units were hit.

    • Annie Robbins
      May 5, 2013, 6:01 pm

      useless targets like a chicken coup, gas station, research facility.

      a military installation is not a useless target. i included the infor in the report Syria’s Minister of information said Israel committed an aggression using missiles against military sites in Damascus. so basically what you are claiming is that it’s worse than what’s being reported but you can’t confirm it with any msm? sounds like rumors to me biorabbi. please get back to us when you have some sources. but Syria’s Minister of information reporting an attack on a military installation is not chopped liver.

    • RoHa
      May 6, 2013, 1:42 am

      “a chicken coup”

      The chickens are taking over?

      • bintbiba
        May 6, 2013, 7:55 am

        Ha ha!! Funny!!

  21. gingershot
    May 5, 2013, 5:26 pm

    Israel always benefits by chaos because it has so many Neocon supporters in the US that will help her exploit it to the maximum.

    For the same reason Israel wants a WWIII style war fought by the US/Britain against Iran, Israel wants to set a match to the Middle East by using Syria

    Anything to forestall the dismantling of Apartheid if the world has to burn down to do it – ANYTHING

  22. biorabbi
    May 5, 2013, 5:30 pm

    Annie, this is from a poster on MoonofAlabama’s recent piece: It sort of rings true. link to moonofalabama.org

    • Annie Robbins
      May 5, 2013, 5:51 pm

      bio rabbi, as a rule unknown commenters on other sites are not viable sources. either way i replaced your long comment with a link. moon of alabama has some of the most sophisticated trolls on the internet. the site is very important which anyone can tell by reading their sitementer, which is regularly visited by military installations around the world. it just so happens lies passed off as truth are supposed to ‘sort of ring true’, that’s because some trolls are highly trained professionals. in the future, please do not post anonymous posters work from another site on here, ever. thanks. if people want to go interact with that poster they can do it there.

      edit: but you can quote b anytime.

  23. Danaa
    May 5, 2013, 6:30 pm

    Looks like al-Qaeda has acquired an air force, doesn’t it? call it “Salafi Air Defense”?

  24. tanoli
    May 5, 2013, 9:10 pm

    No doubt, Isreal is indeed biggest threat to world peace. All BS that Syria was arming Hezbollah.

  25. Keith
    May 5, 2013, 9:51 pm

    “If the West succeeds if effecting the overthrow of the Syrian government, Syria and Lebanon will be targeted for membership in NATO’s Mediterranean Dialog….With the new administration in Cyprus confirming its intention to immediately join the Partnership for Peace, every nation in the Mediterranean Sea Basin will be a NATO member and partner.” (Rick Rozoff)
    link to dandelionsalad.wordpress.com

    It should be noted that Turkey is a member of NATO, the Gulf Cooperation Council members are linked to NATO, and Israel is trying to establish closer links, possibly join. The actions against Syria are well coordinated. Israel as a true rogue unlikely.

  26. Tzombo
    May 5, 2013, 9:51 pm

    Did you guys see this? link to reuters.com According to this Reuters article the Syrian rebels, not the regime, are accused by UN investigators of having used sarin gas. I only found it through the Times of Israel of all places, it seems Reuters is burying its own story.

    • Tzombo
      May 5, 2013, 10:21 pm

      Oh, it hit the NYT now: link to nytimes.com

    • marc b.
      May 6, 2013, 8:40 am

      interesting that story, tzombo. seems it was released after the Sunday talking heads forums. I normally don’t watch the Sunday round ups, but I wanted to see the reaction to Israel’s latest violation of international law, and not a peep about the rebels use of chemical weapons.

  27. traintosiberia
    May 5, 2013, 10:30 pm

    link to youtube.com
    ‘Jewish NeoCons’ Responsible For Iraq War: MSNBC -Carl Bernstein
    Are we seeing more open discussion on TV as ME comes unglued?

  28. seafoid
    May 5, 2013, 10:42 pm

    Syria is a mess. The rebels are chaotic and they can’t offer the people anything better than the incumbents. Syria is going to end up as a client state regardless.

    Israel is in a very volatile region. Of course it’s all path dependent and a lot of the volatility was originally driven by the actions that followed the implantation of the Jewish state in the Shaam but this Syrian mess is not good for Israel.

    There’s a mural in Belfast I saw recently that reminded me of the Jewish state.

    Take a kid with a very troubled history, give him power via violence and then watch him self destruct

    http://goireland.about.com/od/belfastcity/ig/Loyalist-Murals-in-Belfast-/Stevie–Top-Gun–McKeag.htm

    Top Gun got a rush from killing but it led him to drugs

  29. American
    May 5, 2013, 11:05 pm

    Might be interested in Lang’s take since he was the ME pentagon guy..as are several other commenters at his site. The belief among US Military experts
    all along has been that the rebels could not win against Assad. So….take it from there as to who and why who is pressing who for the US to get involved.

    What it ‘looks like’ is the rebellion is failing —-the rebels are poised to lose —-and even though ALQ is a major presence in the rebels and a threat to be dealt with if the rebels did win—–‘if’, as far as the US and I are concerned, bringing down Syria was to deprive Iran of Syrian support (which was the original plan)…..then since the rebels aren’t getting the job done the US or Israel has to get involved and then mop up the ALQ elements afterward…Iraq redux..
    AND if we do get caught in this FUBAR then this time we will be stepping on Russia’s, China’s and several other countries toes.
    And WHO would send ground troops into Syria to prevent the continued guerrilla fighting that would continue as it has in Iraq if we do interfere and beat down Assad?
    So fucked up……all this bloodshed for nothing, from brain farts of would be master Machiavellians of the universe.

    link to turcopolier.typepad.com

  30. kalithea
    May 6, 2013, 12:35 am

    How do you attack Syria and by-pass the Russian and Chinese veto at the Security Council? Send in the bully on the block who disrespects the U.N. and thumbs its nose at the Security Council repeatedly. Israelis got the green light for a proxy hit and charged out like bats out of hell.

    Israel was itching to get in on the fight in Syria like it found any excuse to destroy Lebanon completely in that civil war and sitting on the sidelines were frustrated that no one else wants to get the job done. Israelis think they’re above the law. Their reckless hubris is unmatched.

    One day, what they unleash will come back to bite them back hard and I’ll be pinned to my seat to watch them get exactly what they’ve had coming for decades.

    • ivri
      May 6, 2013, 7:05 am

      “One day what they unleash will come back”
      I think it would be more relevant and actual to turn this proposition around. What the neighboring countries had wished for Israel and tried hard to accomplish have come back to bite them. The unleashed terror on Israel, sometimes even sanctioned by fatwas, had found its way back into Arab countries. Likewise with the commerce embargos (designed to ruin Israel economically, moves to create chaos in it and the general wish to see Israel get disintegrated – they are all coming to haunt Arabia now. That`s where the moral of the story lies not the other way around

      • Annie Robbins
        May 6, 2013, 11:12 am

        yawn

      • eljay
        May 6, 2013, 11:21 am

        >> That’s where the moral of the story lies not the other way around

        The real moral of the story is: When you use terrorism and ethnic to create an oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and supremacist “Jewish State of Greater Israel”, expect your acts of greed, injustice and immorality to result in blowback.

      • ivri
        May 6, 2013, 11:25 am

        This is NOT for publication – private to Annie Robbins:
        Annie, I understand the “yawn”, I also don`t enjoy writing this type of comments but does not what this guy Kalithea wrote desrves exactly this type of answer?

      • Annie Robbins
        May 6, 2013, 2:25 pm

        ivri, in the future send private messages thru my address at the about page.

        i’m not sure what you mean about ‘deserve’. it would have perhaps been interesting had you addressed the points in kalithea’s comment specifically. if israel is going to act like the bully on the block then people will reference the country like that. i think the argument israel was trying to ‘protect itself’ is overused. according to israel they are always protecting themselves. it’s just not very effective propaganda. it’s victim oriented, as is the rest of your reply.

        this doesn’t mean i agree or ‘approve’ of the original comment..but it’s to be an expected response to an aggressor oppressive state. personally i’d rather see peace and reconciliation instead of retribution. but tit for tat ,well, it’s not an interchangeable situation. israel has been the aggressor and stolen land from syria,occupied lebanon and overtaken all of palestine. that was a result of early zionist terrorism and intent,that is still occurring to this day.

      • Citizen
        May 6, 2013, 2:46 pm

        @ eljay
        And then expect discussion of blowback is nipped in the bud by killing the messenger, shutting him/her up, that is by accusations of anti-semitism and self-hating jew. It’s like clockwork, this pattern.

      • kalithea
        May 6, 2013, 9:42 pm

        “That`s where the moral of the story lies not the other way around”

        Uhh-only if the story ends there. Unfortunately for Israel; this is just the beginning and the worst for Zionism awaits.

        Good luck with that! NOT.

    • yrn
      May 6, 2013, 2:25 pm

      Kalithea
      Can you give details regarding “get exactly what they’ve had coming for decades.”

      • libra
        May 6, 2013, 3:22 pm

        yrn: Can you give details regarding “get exactly what they’ve had coming for decades.”

        yrn, I don’t want to sound apocalyptic here but I’d say it would be single, democratic state shared with the Palestinians. I don’t know what Kalithea had in mind but can you imagine anything worse than that?

  31. giladg
    May 6, 2013, 12:54 am

    More important to discuss the story of the Palestinian man who was delayed at a checkpoint than the massacre that just happened in the Syrian town of Banias. I don’t remember reading any previous mention of the massacre on this site. Arab on Arab violence seems not to stur the MDWS faithful. Add a Jew to the mix, now we are talking. What does this really say about you when Arab on Arab violence does not bother you?

    • Annie Robbins
      May 6, 2013, 1:10 am

      it bothers me gilad, there’s just so much disinformation, subterfuge, and lies, it’s hard to report when one doesn’t know the truth of the matter. i suppose you heard already it’s the opposition being investigated now for using chemical weapons. glad i didn’t jump on that bandwagon.

      had we not been inundated with 2 years of propaganda, false flags and lies, it wouldn’t make it so sketchy covering events on syria. that’s just the way it is.

      either way, there were victims. may they rest in peace and may justice be found for their atrocious deaths.

    • thankgodimatheist
      May 6, 2013, 3:44 am

      giladg
      Believe it or not, I don’t believe for a single brief moment that you have the slightest concern about any Arab life, alive or dead, killed or by accident. This is one of your tactics to downplay the importance of what’s going on the Israeli front in terms of abuses of human rights and other crimes against humanity by pointing out to other directions like Syria. You’re not fooling anyone but yourself.

    • Citizen
      May 6, 2013, 2:52 pm

      @ giladg
      Arab on Arab violence is not to be discounted, and it is not on MW. But no Arab (Or Persian) country is constantly portrayed on US mainstream news/entertainment as having the same values as the USA, and no such country has anything but an arms-length alliance with the USA, to wit: The Arab countries pay through the nose for US arms while Israel gets them for free, and with interest, not to mention the US underwrites Israel’s borrowing. No comparison at all but that Israel gets to milk USA to the nines. Arab countries pay through the nose, and get no reputation cover at all. Israel has the US UN SC pocket veto, not so our Arab allies.

  32. shachalnur
    May 6, 2013, 1:16 am

    Israel hit something in Syria yesterday,allegedly.
    Israel hit something last 29 januari in Syria,allegedly.

    “US officials”,NY Times etc. claim Israel hit Hezbollah convoy,allegedly.
    Both times.

    Erdogan and his FM claimed last month that Israel and Assad are collaborating.
    NCS in Istanbul says the attack favors Assad.

    Turkey and NCS both fully support the NATO-rebels.
    Israel and Syria both have serious reservations about the NATO-rebels.

    Syria says Israel declared war on Syria,and deploys missile defenses(?).
    Israel doesn’t say a thing and Nethanyahu goes to China for a week.

    Poor chickens,but it had to look convincing.

  33. gingershot
    May 6, 2013, 1:16 am

    “U.N. Has Gathered Testimony Indicating That Syrian Rebels Have Used Sarin Gas, Says Investigator”

    Israeli False Flag operation using the Rebels, like Col Lawerence Wilkerson hinted at earlier this week?

    link to huffingtonpost.com

    GENEVA, May 5 (Reuters) – U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria’s civil war and medical staff indicating that REBEL FORCES have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday.

    • kalithea
      May 6, 2013, 10:02 pm

      “Israeli False Flag operation using the Rebels…”

      I believe I stated so here as well and, as usual, no one believed me. Mossad, chemistry lessons; very false flag.

      Israelis trained the PKK; they trained Jundallah; why not these “rebels”? I scoff at the word! Let’s call a spade a spade: Terrorists engaging in TERRORISM, sponsored by the state that conducts war like a terrorist act.

      • Annie Robbins
        May 6, 2013, 11:32 pm

        I believe I stated so here as well and, as usual, no one believed me.

        can you back this up? what is the point of always asserting you’re the only one in the know. seriously kalithea, you’re not the only one around here w/a brain. there’s no way i would have said i didn’t believe it was a false flag. no way. i am sure i’m not alone. do you think it adds to your discourse to constantly be banging people over the head for things they never said?

  34. thankgodimatheist
    May 6, 2013, 3:37 am

    ISRAEL ATTEMPTS TO PROVOKE REGIONAL WAR
    “It’s clear that Israel’s strategy is to use the Syrian Civil War to deliberately provoke Hezbollah. The provocation is designed to goad Hezbollah into retaliation for over-flying Lebanon while on their way to apparently destroy weapons that the Israelis say are bound for Hezbollah.

    The strategy has worked before. In 2006 the Israelis flew low level high speed jet sorties over Lebanon. Hezbollah responded by launching rockets into Israel. The situation then quickly escalated when the Israelis prepared reconnaissance patrols into south Lebanon. This resulted in an Israeli patrol unit being attacked close to the Lebanese border when three Israelis were killed and two others taken either dead or mortally wounded. The result was a war that the Israelis hoped would put an end to Hezbollah once and for all. However, Hezbollah turned out to be far more tenacious than the Israelis imagined and the war ended when the US under Bush and Condoleezza Rice were no longer able to support Israeli aggression due to international pressure to stop the war as hundreds of Lebanese civilians were being killed. 44 Israeli civilians were killed and 121 Israeli military personnel died. While many Lebanese civilians lost their lives and there was horrendous damage done to Lebanon’s infrastructure, Israel, considering its war aims were to destroy Hezbollah and occupy south Lebanon up to the Litani River, suffered a humiliating defeat. Now the Israelis are trying a different tack except this time their war aims are far grander and they hope to include the US.”
    link to lataan.blogspot.com.au

    • shachalnur
      May 6, 2013, 4:15 am

      2006 conflict Israel-Hezbollah.

      I was in Israel.
      Israel stopped shooting one hour after a Hezbollah missile landed next to Nethanya.

      Since than Hezbollah have received all the weapons they need,and some.
      A few thousand Martyrs with about 50.000 missiles and rockets are dug in underground ,waiting to be lobbed into Israel.

      Israel has warned that if Hezbollah attacks,Israel will bomb all of Lebanon.

      Obama went off to play golf.

      To claim that Israel ,in the current situation,is trying to provoke Hezbollah into mutual destruction ,is ridiculous.

      • kalithea
        May 6, 2013, 10:53 pm

        Who cares what Obama does; I’m glad you think this Zionist puppet is useless. The rest of your post is ridiculous. Israel lives…to provoke. Israel is itching for war. Nothing new.

  35. Daniel Rich
    May 6, 2013, 6:09 am

    When will the ‘world community’ notice the persistent violation of international law by the Apartheid regime?

  36. Citizen
    May 6, 2013, 7:52 am

    NPR says the facility in question, in the Damascus suburb of Jamraya, was also targeted by Israel in January. Israel’s just taking advantage of an opportunity once again–it’s agenda was laid out by PNAC many years ago.

    • Annie Robbins
      May 6, 2013, 11:18 am

      was also targeted by Israel in January.

      yes, i mentioned that in the article above,with embed to allison’s article at the time. israel denied it at the time and claimed they were going after a ‘weapons convoy’ heading to lebanon. but assad said they hit the military research center. most of the reports that have come out say ‘3 attack in 4 months’.

      link to cnn.com

      In late January, reports surfaced that Israeli warplanes targeted the research facility. The Syrian government has said the airstrike killed two workers and injured five others.

      A U.S. official told CNN at the time the Syrian claims were false. The official said Israeli fighter jets targeted a Syrian government convoy carrying surface-to-air missiles bound for the militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon. Syria denied there were such shipments.

      • Citizen
        May 6, 2013, 2:30 pm

        Yeah, when NPR says Israel struck the same target in January, given that NPR is so pro-Israel in its reporting over the years, rarely, if ever, having a discussion that conflicts with hasbara, we can take it Israel did just that. Why? It’s part of the PNAC agenda dating back to the 1990s. Syria is one of the regimes targeted for change. Israel is always looking for any opportunity to fragment Arab regimes and the Persian regime–divide and conquer, and the US has played along to the Israeli hilt. The goal is always to maintain and enhance Israeli hegemony in the Middle East. Another aspect of this is the US pretending ignorance about Israel’s nuke bomb stockpile, and ignorance about Israel’s other means of WMD, chemical, etc. The US mainstream media is totally complicit in these matters. As is the US WH and Congress.

  37. yrn
    May 6, 2013, 2:34 pm

    Syrian troops backed by pro-government gunmen swept into a Sunni village in the mountains near the Mediterranean coast on Thursday, killing dozens of people, including women and children, and torching homes, activists said.

    No one mentions……. as its not the Israelis

    • Annie Robbins
      May 6, 2013, 3:44 pm

      allegedly anyway. and I addressed that concern here:

      link to mondoweiss.net

      if opposition militias weren’t so big on false flags, carrying out massacres and claiming it was syrian troops, along with backing from their funders, there would be more willingness to believe what they’re alleging. the opposition wants more sympathy and outside intervention so it is in their interest to create headlines.

      btw, 2 can play that game, i don’t swallow everything hook line an sinker,regardless of whose saying it (warning, gruesome):

      link to twitter.com

      • biorabbi
        May 6, 2013, 7:29 pm

        Again, I used to completely dismiss Annie’s point of view on the Syrian Government and the whole false flag deal, but, I’ve come to the conclusions with Syria:

        1. There are no heros or saints here with no blood on their hands(government or Jihadists.

        2. In my judgement, the future of Syria would be more respectful of minority rights(and secular)under Assad.

        3. While there is a secular opposition to Assad. They have either been killed, sidelined, or, more important, so insignificant in terms of power/numbers as opposed to the Jihadis, you could liken them to the power of the Israeli Communist party. The “secular guys” live in Milan or DC! like the “secular guys” in Libya.

        4. Everybody has proxy interests in Syria with complex, nuanced positions. Sunni–Shia, Iran–Israel, Russia–US, Iran–Gulf States.

  38. IL1948
    May 6, 2013, 6:28 pm

    All it took was some Israeli involvement in the conflict for you to pay any attention to the massacre that his being going on in Syria. Such journalistic integrity!

    • biorabbi
      May 6, 2013, 7:22 pm

      IL1948…. Click on my name dude here. I’m a well known pro-Israeli guy on this site(Hasbara–LOL). Annie is fair to my point of view and my ‘Jewdar’ of Annie is 0.00 percent on the anti-semite meter. Chill. IL1948, dude, she’s the only one here who has covered the Syria issue on Mondoweiss… repeatedly. I may not agree with her all of her conclusions on Syria, but she has not avoided Syria. Perhaps your accusations of journalistic integrity should be aimed elsewhere.

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