Lapid says ‘Israelis want peace and security and Palestinians want peace and justice’

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Jodi Rudoren reports for the New York Times from Tel Aviv on the rising/falling Israeli political star Yair Lapid, now the Finance Minister under Netanyahu. Shorter version: Nothing is going to change. He trashes Abbas, who is actually a conservative inside Palestinian life, as some kind of insurgent; he hasn’t had a word with John Kerry, the savior of the two-state-solution, since March. He hasn’t spoken with Palestinians since taking office. Lapid’s summary of the difference between the two populations, Israelis want security, Palestinians want justice, has a profound truth to it but contains its contradiction: Israelis are insecure because of an injustice; they will never find security without justice. Rudoren:

While he described the two-state solution as “crucial” to preserving Israel as a Jewish nation, he offered no hints of Israeli concessions that could break the stalemate in the peace process. Instead, he repeatedly said he hoped that Secretary of State John Kerry, who is scheduled to arrive here this week for his fourth visit in two months, would “jump-start” it.

And he expressed extreme skepticism about the likelihood of reaching a deal with President Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, saying, “He’s one of the founding fathers of the victimizing concept of the Palestinians.”

He also questioned whether Palestinians truly wanted a state.

“Israelis want peace and security and Palestinians want peace and justice — these are two very different things, and this is the real gap we have to close,” he said. “More and more people are saying to themselves and to others, this is not going to happen, all we have to do is some maintenance and we’ll see. Some people think ‘we’ll see’ is ‘God will help us,’ which is not a very tangible idea to me. Others say, ‘Some problems are not to be solved,’ which is a very sad idea.

“I am saying what we need to do is something.”

Yet while Mr. Lapid vowed “to be proactive about this and do everything in my power to contribute to the discourse,” he said he has not spoken with Mr. Kerry since sitting with him at a state dinner during President Obama’s visit to Jerusalem in March. Nor has he met with any Palestinians since taking office.

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19 Responses

  1. james1118
    May 20, 2013, 10:45 am

    Just another thread of the Israeli Zionist cloth!!!
    Instead of joining the world, Israel continues with excuses and excuses………….

  2. Ramzi Jaber
    May 20, 2013, 11:01 am

    Lapid just accelerated 1S1P1V.

    Lapid was the hope of Israelis, Palestinians, Europeans, and Americans that the political thinking in Israel will change with him and we’ll start seeing real movement towards 2SS. Now we hear Lapid stating positions more extreme and radical than Netanyahoo. He doesn’t seem to understand that peace-justice-security come as a package. They are the three sides without which a triangle cannot be built.

    Given what the zionist regime is doing, planning, and saying, the only remaining solution is 1S1P1V – one state, one person, one vote – for all citizens of the democratic and secular State of the Holy Land where Christians, Moslems, and Jews all live together in peace, security, and justice with equal rights and equal responsibilities.

  3. Justpassingby
    May 20, 2013, 11:06 am

    He supported settlements
    He condemned their own puppet Abbas
    He refused giving back E. Jerusalem

    • Dutch
      May 20, 2013, 12:38 pm

      One of the quotes, as mentioned by Haaretz:

      “Lapid said the large swaths of land known as East Jerusalem that Israel captured from Jordan in the 1967 war and later annexed must stay Israeli because ‘we didn’t come here for nothing.’”

  4. seafoid
    May 20, 2013, 11:36 am

    Lapid is a fraud. Nobody can triangulate the status quo.
    There is no fancy form of words to secure the occupation.

    Israelis don’t get this.

  5. seafoid
    May 20, 2013, 11:41 am

    Israelis want “peace” but do not want to pay for it – they really want to procrastinate and forget about the Aghabs .

    Palestinians want their rights.

    There is only going to be one answer.

  6. Cliff
    May 20, 2013, 1:00 pm

    Nothing is going to change.

    Zionist Jews continue to rob Palestinians and American Jews provide cover for this disgusting country and it’s colonial project.

  7. pabelmont
    May 20, 2013, 1:14 pm

    An uncle of mine once (1980s) infuriated me by saying to me and my wife, she Palestinian, “If there’s no solution, then there’s no problem.” Lapid sounds like that a bit.

    But all the Zios are saying the same thing: “We want what we want, we are not going to give it up voluntarily, we have no enemies to force us to give it up involuntarily, and we’ll describe our reason for doing what we want as a need for ‘security’.” Oh, and “Forget about justice” which is what Lapid meant by: “He’s one of the founding fathers of the victimizing concept of the Palestinians.”

    To him, Nakba and all the rest is a ploy, whereas, I suppose, all the “security” talk of the Zios (which, to me, are a ploy) are reality.

  8. just
    May 20, 2013, 2:15 pm

    Another profoundly disappointing & bigoted Israeli politician.

  9. German Lefty
    May 20, 2013, 3:32 pm

    Lapid’s summary of the difference between the two populations, Israelis want security, Palestinians want justice, has a profound truth to it but contains its contradiction: Israelis are insecure because of an injustice; they will never find security without justice.
    Exactly right!

  10. yourstruly
    May 20, 2013, 7:04 pm

    Abbas, “one of the founding fathers of the victimizing concept of the Palestinians.” What, do Israelis have a copyright on claiming to be victims, and could there be a better example of the pot calling the kettle black?

  11. piotr
    May 20, 2013, 8:04 pm

    Security can be a jealous god, requesting increasing strictness in devotions and multiplication of sacrifices.

  12. Sumud
    May 20, 2013, 8:40 pm

    “I am saying what we need to do is something.”

    What a bight spark this Lapid chap is.

  13. American
    May 21, 2013, 12:41 am

    You just cant make this shit up……

    TODAY…..

    ”Kerry calls Israeli envoy to protest legalization of West Bank outposts”

    Haaretz-3 hours ago
    In unusual move, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry phones Israeli ambassador to the U.S. Michael Oren to demand explanations, voice protest …”

    YESTERDAY…..

    ‘After U.S. request, EU delays decision to label products from Israeli settlements”

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry asked his EU counterpart Catherine Ashton to put off the move as he tries to restart Israeli-Palestinian negotiations.
    By Barak Ravid | May.19, 2013 | 8:15 AM |’

    link to haaretz.com

    • Dutch
      May 21, 2013, 7:38 am

      There is a press release form the PLO denying the latter fact, and the Times of Israel has a piece up denying it as well (featuring EU officials).

  14. K Renner
    May 21, 2013, 10:45 am

    An Israeli has no business accusing others of creating a “culture of victimhood”.

    On the plus side, maybe Lapid will go so far as to tell the truth and admit that Israelis aren’t the victims and haven’t been, ever.

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