Jeez — is Hagel’s tie supposed to look like the Israeli flag?

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Chuck Hagel at the ADL

Chuck Hagel at the ADL

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel walks back just about every critical word he’s ever said about Israel and the lobby, in an address to the Anti Defamation League centennial gathering. He’s even wearing a white tie with blue stripes. Egad. And notice that he speaks of the Iran threat in the context of Yad Vashem, and the Holocaust, echoing Israeli fears. I assume this is tactical– we’re not going to attack Iran– but it’s still upsetting. Excerpts:

Nowhere is this more apparent than in the Middle East, where the United States and our allies are facing an unprecedented set of complex challenges.

For Israel, this shifting landscape has brought new threats and new dynamics.  Even as Israel takes important steps toward peace and the two-state solution, these challenges remain on its borders.  There are no margins for Israel.

Egypt’s future remains uncertain.  There is a humanitarian crisis in Syria, along with disease and hunger compounding the scourge of sectarian violence and civil war.  These challenges demand unprecedented cooperation between the United States and Israel.

Israel’s self-defense capabilities and its qualitative military edge are central to both Israel and U.S. security interests.  The United States has provided important support for Israel’s Iron Dome system, which has proven very successful in protecting Israeli citizens.

And earlier this year, the United States reached a historic agreement, an agreement to open up even more advanced military capabilities to Israel.  One of these capabilities is the V-22 Osprey, a tilt-rotor aircraft that will greatly enhance the range and effectiveness of Israeli special forces.

Tonight, I am pleased to announce that we are working with the Israeli government to provide them with six new V-22s.  I have directed the Marine Corps to make sure that this order is expedited.  That means Israel will get six V-22s out of the next order to go on the assembly line, and they will be compatible with other IDF capabilities.

The Israeli and American defense relationship is stronger than ever.  That isn’t due just to where I am at my time.  That’s due to previous secretaries of defense., Panetta, Gates, all the previous secretaries, this organization, the American people, our Congress, past presidents – we’ve all worked together to strengthen this relationship.

Another area of our common security interests is preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

The United States is presently testing Iranian intentions for a diplomatic solution.  As we engage Iran along with our partners, we are very clear-eyed about the reality in the Middle East.  Iran is a state sponsor of terror, responsible for spreading hatred and extremism throughout the region.

But foreign policy is not a zero-sum game.  If we can find ways to resolve disputes peacefully, we are wise to explore them.

Engagement is not appeasement, nor is it containment.  We know what those are, we know where they lead, and we will not pursue them.

And President Obama has repeatedly made clear that words are not enough.  Action must match words.

We understand why this is so important to so many people.  Because we’ve all been to Yad Vashem.

Earlier this year, I had the opportunity to revisit Yad Vashem.  I had been there before, but this time was special for, because I brought my son, Ziller, with me.  I wanted him to see the harsh realities of the depths of evil, and the beautiful tribute to the victims of the past.  Yad Vashem is an instruction for future generations – like all great memorials.  A warning to never ever again stand idly by in the face of hatred and bigotry.

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  1. Justpassingby
    November 1, 2013, 12:06 pm

    Another cult follower.
    Hagel even looks like a wimp these days.

  2. bilal a
    November 1, 2013, 12:10 pm

    Jeez refers to the Islamic Prophet or Christian Messiah .Mildly Vulgar for a Catholic, but somewhat abrasive coming from others. Like the N word, or Jack Straw talking about the Lobby.

    OMG Blasphemy is the new ‘wow’
    link to bostonglobe.com

    • Woody Tanaka
      November 1, 2013, 12:35 pm

      “Jeez” is a meaningless fill in word. It arose as a way not to refer to the Islamic Prophet or Christian Messiah.

      I did, however, find Jennifer Graham’s opinion piece disturbing. The notion that “Oh my God” is offensive is, itself offensive. But worse, she seems to have no problem with attempting to reimpose her personal beliefs that “a certain reverence and restraint is due the sacred” on a society that finds such beliefs (by, among other things, the ubiquity of such expressions as “Oh my God”) unwelcome.

    • Ellen
      November 2, 2013, 7:07 pm

      Yes, jeeze is midly vulgar for Catholics, perhaps of a previous generation. But still with a twinge….yet Jouise Loiuse in context is ok. (That is another parlance.)

      Back to the article above: Forget the tie. in code-speak, “new threats” means more money. That is what the audience wants to hear. Hagel promised more money, lots of it.

      The assurance was sealed with the annoncement that Israel is assued delivery od the V22s and everything that comes with them.

      I now wonder why AIPAC was fighting Hagell nomination. He is so much their boy.

  3. HarryLaw
    November 1, 2013, 12:23 pm

    The Man is pathetic, are there no depths these politicians will not sink to ingratiate themselves to the lobby, “There is a humanitarian crisis in Syria, along with disease and hunger compounding the scourge of sectarian violence and civil war. These challenges demand unprecedented cooperation between the United States and Israel”. Yes like the Israelis bombing Latikia in Syria yesterday, and the US supporting head chopping and organ eating terrorists in Syria. And, “Iran is a state sponsor of terror, responsible for spreading hatred and extremism throughout the region”, wrong, Saudi Arabia is the leading state sponsor of terrorism in the region and in the world by a mile [and Hagel knows it,] and a medieval, vicious dictatorship whose barbaric leadership should be hanging from lamp posts,but they are our friends, so that’s alright, words cannot describe the contempt I have for Hagel and Power et al.

    • RoHa
      November 2, 2013, 2:01 am

      Harry, the general version of the question is “Are there no depths politicians will not sink to?”

      And the answer is, almost always, “No”.

    • Walid
      November 2, 2013, 7:46 pm

      “There is a humanitarian crisis in Syria, along with disease and hunger compounding the scourge of sectarian violence and civil war. ”

      You can now add to that, an outbreak of polio. 10 reported cases in the camps near the Turkish border at Deir al-Zour. There is a mad rush to innoculate the children of Syrian refugees in Syria and Lebanon.

  4. Woody Tanaka
    November 1, 2013, 12:29 pm

    ” I have directed the Marine Corps to make sure that this order is expedited. That means Israel will get six V-22s out of the next order to go on the assembly line, and they will be compatible with other IDF capabilities.”

    Great. OUR US Marines make due with inferior equiptment. What country does this fool work for, again???

    “Because we’ve all been to Yad Vashem.”

    This is an expression of absolute lunacy. Yad Vashem is absolutely, 100% irrelevant to the Iran situation and has absolutely nothing to do with it, except to the mentally ill.

  5. Walid
    November 1, 2013, 12:35 pm

    Have to feel sorry for the guy; appears still traumatized by the hearings inquistion in which he had to repent and pledge allegiance to Israel.

  6. pabelmont
    November 1, 2013, 12:38 pm

    Sorry to see what sure looks like a stalwart turning into a wart.

    • pabelmont
      November 1, 2013, 2:06 pm

      And I rather like what I read about the newest Pope. I gather — inter alia — that the most he’d expect anyone to kiss (if at all, in his case) is his ring. Lacking a ring, AIPAC, however, * * *

      I like the idea of the Catholic Church which was once allied with the Propertied Class in many places, and thus against the poor, making sure that the poor were always with us and remained poor, now seeking to ameliorate the lives of the poor and to lift the burdens of discrimination that fall, like the rays of the sun, on most of us. I hope it so falls out.

  7. DICKERSON3870
    November 1, 2013, 12:56 pm

    RE: “Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel walks back just about every critical word he’s ever said about Israel and the lobby, in an address to the Anti Defamation League centennial gathering.” ~ Weiss

    THE CHASTENING OF CHUCK HAGEL (SMEARS WORK!)

    SEE: ‘Did Hagel get $25K speaking fee from Friends of Hamas?’ — Daily News seeded suspicion, by Philip Weiss, Mondoweiss, 2/20/13

    [EXCERPT] Dan Friedman, a reporter for the Daily News, acts the innocent in this piece explaining the origins of the rumor that Chuck Hagel received funds from a group called “Friends of Hamas.” The Daily News asserts that Friedman “inadvertently” fostered that suspicion. But as you read his words– not an ombudsman’s words, or an editor’s words, someone who ought to be looking into this matter — reflect that: the Daily News is a big supporter of Israel, and, How innocent is it to send an email to a source on Capitol Hill asking, “Did he get $25K speaking fee from Friends of Hamas?” It’s not innocent; it’s irresponsible. I would ask Friedman: Show me the rest of your emails on this question. What are you leaving out? Why should anyone trust your account? . . .

    SOURCE – link to mondoweiss.net

    AND SEE: “Elliott Abrams: ‘Hagel will be confirmed, but he will be a weaker secretary of defense'”, By Noam Sheizaf, +972 Magazine, 2/22/13

    [EXCERPTS] In an interview to the Israeli daily ‘Yedioth Ahronoth,’ the former neoconservative diplomat criticizes Hagel for his ‘I am an American senator’ remark. Israeli journalist Nahum Barnea has today a short interview with Elliott Abrams on the issue of Chuck Hagel’s nomination to secretary of defense, which various Israeli advocacy groups have opposed. Abrams opens by explaining why he believes Hagel is an anti-Semite . . .
    Abrams: “I don’t hate him (Hagel). I don’t know him in person. I have friends who say they have known him for years and never heard an anti-Semitic remark from him. I think that everyone who rules out an initiative by Jews to influence American policy is an anti-Semite. That’s my definition. “Hagel once said ‘I am not an Israeli senator, I am an American senator. My commitment is to the United States’. This wasn’t a gaffe.” […]
    • Barnea: You know that eventually he will be confirmed. The Senate usually doesn’t interfere with the president’s appointments.
    • Abrams: “Yes. I suppose he will be confirmed. But he will be a weaker secretary of defense. The fight against Hagel presents the Republican party as a very pro-Israeli party, which is a good thing. Second, it’s becoming clear to everyone that there is a strong pro-Israeli lobby that is relying mostly on Christians. This is not a Jewish lobby.”

    SOURCE – link to 972mag.com

    P.S. RE: “Yes. I suppose he [Hagel] will be confirmed. But he will be a weaker secretary of defense.” ~ Elliott Abrams (from above)

    MY COMMENT: Ergo, Elliott Abrams apparently thinks that the U.S. having a weak Secretary of Defense is a good thing (at least, when it benefits Likudnik Israel), and he is proud of the role his smear campaign played in weakening our new Secretary of Defense. If Elliott Abrams isn’t an “Israel firster” (actually a Likud firster), then I’m a monkey’s uncle (not that there’s anything wrong with that).

    • Kathleen
      November 1, 2013, 4:14 pm

      Elliot Abrams, Dennis Ross, Kristol, Indyk, Woolsey, Bolton, Ledeen etc and team need to be required to sign up under FARA. Who does the federal government make sign up under this act? link to fara.gov. Seems like they would all fit any possible criteria

  8. bintbiba
    November 1, 2013, 1:03 pm

    All this is too depressing for words!
    Hagel wears a hangdog pathetic look on his face. Pitiful… How do these people sleep at night!!

  9. seafoid
    November 1, 2013, 1:17 pm

    Hagel reminds me of the eunuchs that used to be found in the palace of the Sublime Porte in Istanbul. They worked with the ladies of the harem and the only way they could be trusted was to castrate them.

    • Ellen
      November 2, 2013, 7:18 pm

      Castration. Perphaps that is the only way members of the Court (read Administration) could and ever survive.

  10. HarryLaw
    November 1, 2013, 1:23 pm

    Can’t fault the color of his tie, he knew he was entering a blue environment and I’m sure his first choice colors would have been a combined red,black, white and green.

  11. flyod
    November 1, 2013, 1:45 pm

    i can’t help wondering what they have on him?

    • seafoid
      November 3, 2013, 7:24 am

      Zionism is more or less a Jewish version of the NRA.

      -Taken over by extremist right wingers in the 60s/70s
      -Claim to represent over 10 million people and speak for them all but never let them influence policy
      -Impossible for a normal person to get elected to the secretive executive
      -Several hundred lobbyists in DC who run rings around the politicians
      -Couldn’t care less about how many people die in their wars/with the guns they promote
      -Water tight ideology
      -Demand their right to remain ready for apocalyptic scenarios which are a cover for their political power

      Adelson is just LaPierre with a kippa.

  12. HarryLaw
    November 1, 2013, 1:48 pm

    I think Hagels tie is aesthetically pleasing, it looks nice as well.

  13. Mondowise
    November 1, 2013, 2:21 pm

    “A warning to never ever again stand idly by in the face of hatred and bigotry.”

    right, so then Hagel/Obomber Admin why are you…..standing idly by…..as Palestinians suffer horrific atrocities DAILY????? the hypocrisy makes me so sick!

  14. Ludwig
    November 1, 2013, 3:02 pm

    Or the American flag.

  15. Kathleen
    November 1, 2013, 3:11 pm

    I heard Hagel speak here at Univ of Colorado as the guest speaker at the World Conference. I was able to ask him direct questions about the illegal settlements and the aggressive policy towards Iran being promoted. He spoke very clearly on the I/P issue stating that the settlements were a serious problem when it came to a possible two state solution and that any military conflict with Iran would be a horrible mistake. He sounds like a completely different person. Clearly Obama, Hagel just not getting that Israel needs to actually suffer repercussions for their aggressive land snatching.

    That last sentence is especially hypocritical ” A warning to never again stand idly by in the face of hatred and bigotry” Exactly the situation for the Palestinians. Totally a racist statement. Shame on you Hagel. Your tail is still between your legs

  16. seafoid
    November 1, 2013, 3:44 pm

    A warning to never again stand idle in the face of hatred and bigotry*

    * Offer valid continental US only and not recognised by any rabbinate since not kosher lemehadrin

  17. Kathleen
    November 1, 2013, 4:10 pm

    Obama and Hagel staring into the middle east Alice in Wonderland “looking glass” too long
    Chuck Hagel said idea of going to war with Iran is ‘Alice in Wonderland’
    link to mondoweiss.net

    • seafoid
      November 1, 2013, 5:23 pm

      And if you go chasing Iranians
      and you know you’re going to fall
      Tell them a hooked up lobby in DC
      Has given you the call
      Call AIPAC

      When the men out in Galut
      Get up and tell you where to go
      And you’ve just had some kind of ziocaine
      And your mind is moving low
      Go ask AIPAC
      I think she’ll know

      Remember what the Dormouse said : ” It is always best to adhere to international law over the long run”

      • ritzl
        November 2, 2013, 4:17 pm

        OK, how did you do that, seafoid? Is this part of the new MW, being able to post video and/or graphics. In any event, well done, all around if this is a new capability here.

      • seafoid
        November 2, 2013, 5:43 pm

        It seems to be new. Just post the video link and up it comes

      • ritzl
        November 2, 2013, 6:08 pm

        Supercool!

      • Ellen
        November 2, 2013, 7:44 pm

        Alice is the fantasy drug-induced illusion. The bizzare vision.

        Go ask AIPAC…….I think she will know.

        Priceless and true.

      • Bumblebye
        November 2, 2013, 8:37 pm

        link to soundcloud.com
        jazz album composed by Gerald Clark, titled “Nakba” – sample sounds great. Brilliantly simple album cover.
        to buy:
        link to theinterruptingsheep.bandcamp.com

      • Bumblebye
        November 2, 2013, 9:03 pm

        “releases 11 November 2013
        Nakba
        A Jazz Suite for Palestine.

        Composed, Arranged and Produced by Gerald Clark

        1. Nakba (Intro)
        2. The Intifada
        3. Jenin
        4. Tom and Rachel
        5. 4:1
        6. The Wall
        7. Epilogue (Nakba Reprise)

        All music by Gerald Clark © 2013. All rights reserved.

        For the people of Palestine, and in memory of Tom Hurndall, Rachel Corrie and all who have lost their lives in the name of Palestine.

        Profits from the sale of this CD will be donated to Palestinian charities”

  18. W.Jones
    November 1, 2013, 4:40 pm

    Phil asks what “is Hagel’s tie supposed to look like?”

    There are a number of flags with blue and white stripes colors, actually, like that of Greece and the one retracted by the Iraqi Governing Council in 2004:
    link to upload.wikimedia.org

    • W.Jones
      November 1, 2013, 4:53 pm

      History of the Greek Flag
      link to en.wikipedia.org

      2004 Iraq Flag proposal and controversy
      link to en.wikipedia.org

      Scotland, Finland, etc.

      Of course with many of these flags you can find controversies. Greeks debate where they got their colors from, and it was very unusual that the 2004 flag proposed a blue crescent. Why should Scotland have St. Andrew’s cross when it’s doubtful he went there? And even before WWII the Finnish cross unfortunately got turned into a pagan symbol shared with their German allies, which you might be able to guess.

  19. ToivoS
    November 1, 2013, 6:38 pm

    The Obama admin has decided to come to an agreement with Iran, of that I am reasonably sure. The lobby and financial backers have avowed to prevent that outcome. As painful as it is to witness, if what Hagel and Kerry are doing will help diffuse this political opposition to Obama’s policies then more power to them. Except, I don’t think it will work. They are showing weakness to their adversaries in the lobby. This will just empower them to make more demands. I think a few threats would be more efficacious at this point.

    • Rusty Pipes
      November 1, 2013, 8:59 pm

      Even if this effort does not prevent the Israel Lobby and major Democratic donors from pressuring congress to apply even more economic sanctions to Iran, the Obama administration is demonstrating that it is willing to go anywhere and say anything the Lobby wants to hear (so please, congresscritters, don’t sabotage the negotiations with Iran). Hagel’s speech is basically:

      [boilerplate platitudes]
      The United States is presently testing Iranian intentions for a diplomatic solution. As we engage Iran along with our partners, we are very clear-eyed about the reality in the Middle East. [boilerplate platitude]

      But foreign policy is not a zero-sum game. If we can find ways to resolve disputes peacefully, we are wise to explore them.

      Engagement is not appeasement, nor is it containment. We know what those are, we know where they lead, and we will not pursue them.

      [boilerplate platitudes]

  20. traintosiberia
    November 1, 2013, 7:01 pm

    ‘I think that everyone who rules out an initiative by Jews to influence American policy is an anti-Semite. That’s my definition. “Hagel once said ‘I am not an Israeli senator, I am an American senator. My commitment is to the United States’. This wasn’t a gaffe.” Elliot Abrams
    1- So Will the Jews take the blame if they are mentioned for influencing American policy?
    2-Wil the Jews take the blame if the policy they support went bonker headlong into the abyss of catastropic dimension?
    3 Antisemitism carries risk of social ostracization and is watched by the US governmnet department. Will he or she has to look over the shoulder and finesse his or her languages or worry before disapproving of any proposal coming from the Jewish in case he or she faces the consequences of being charged with antisemtism?

    4- A sentence in a paragraph or speech can be understood to carry meanings and relevance to the next sentence .It is expected to be consistent with the themes or the braod ideas that first line and second line offer or support. Is standing for US interest as US senator and reminding that he is not Israeli senator is antisemitic?

    5-How was he weakened and by whom? Was he weakend by allegation that was false( taking money from hamas friends or prostitutes) or was he weAkend for doing something else? Or was he weakened by the resistance to his confirmation? Who then weakend him and what was the arguments by them? It was not his failure as senator. So wAHt argument was used to weaken him? Was he weakened for trying to shape US foreign policy as US citizen,representative, and as American war hero? How did these peopel trying to weaken can get away with this maneuver and brag about it?
    6- On any given day if these psychopaths who cry over antisemtism and support unquestioned loyalty to Israel were reminded by some observers that they tried to torpedo the conformation of an US citizen, an US senator who fought for US openly and proudly over the falsehood of support to Hamas ( Guilinai and Mukaskey do support MEK and a few do support Checehn terrorist ) propagated by an Israeli friendly media and over the assertions that he would have US interest on mind , those people reminding them of the behavior would be called antisemite.
    6-It is now a gaffe if US senator says he is for US and not for Isreali interest?

  21. Kathleen
    November 2, 2013, 9:15 am

    And Israel’s illegal, immoral, violent settlements just keep growing. Obama, Hagel, Kerry failing. Their lip prints are all over Israel’s bloody ass. How many times can they say “your our best friend” Your interest are our interest.

    Through all kinds of weather what if the sky should fall just as long as we’re together does not matter at all. Side by side.

    Guess they look at the fact that Obama has met with Rouhani and Kerry has met with other Iranian officials that finally the I lobby who has been blocking negotiations for decades is being stood up to.

    • seafoid
      November 3, 2013, 7:07 am

      I think there is a big risk of an upsurge in fact-based anti-Semitism when the whole circus breaks down. Maybe that is why they keep going pointlessly on.

      “Two things are infinite,” Albert Einstein said. “The universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the universe.”

      And Zionism is really stupid.

      • eljay
        November 3, 2013, 9:36 am

        >> I think there is a big risk of an upsurge in fact-based anti-Semitism when the whole circus breaks down.

        I’m happy to see the blowback limited to Zio-supremacists, who deserve to be held accountable for the immoral and unjust sh*t they and their “Jewish State” have been pulling – proudly and with impunity – for over 60 years.

        Unfortunately, it’s very likely that some (many? most?) non-Zio-supremacist Jews will – wrongly, unjustly and immorally – also be targeted.

        Sadly, Zio-supremacists don’t seem to give a damn. Aggressor-victimhood is hard work, and if they have to sacrifice some of their tribe / people / nation / ethnicity / culture / civilization to get the job done, so be it.

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