Israel announces identity of suspected kidnappers, still no evidence of abduction made public

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 Marwan Quasma and Amar Abu Eisha (Photo: Jerusalem Post)

Marwan Quasma and Amar Abu Eisha (Photo: Jerusalem Post)

The Shin Bet has identified Marwan Quasma, 29, and Amar Abu Eisha, 32 as suspected kidnappers, reportedly responsible for abducting 3 Jewish teenagers in the West Bank on June 12. 

Although thus far no evidence of the abduction has been published (the Israeli government imposed a gag order on journalists covering the event), The Jerusalem Post reported “both men became wanted as soon as security forces learned of the kidnapping.”

Both men are at large and the Shin Bet stated the ongoing “wide-scale search” taking place in cities and towns all across the West Bank is “aimed at capturing the wanted suspects.” Indeed, over 560 Palestinians have been arrested during the sweeps and 6 shot dead by Israeli forces. 

Reportedly both Quasma and Abu Eisha are residents of Hebron and members of Hamas. Both have been imprisoned multiple times by the Israeli military and both have been held as administrative detainees in the past. According to the Post , under questioning in the past Quasma “confessed” to obtaining raw materials for “the assembly of bombs”.

The Jerusalem Post, Shin Bet reveals identity of two main suspected kidnappers:

A senior security source told The Jerusalem Post that the Shin Bet confirmed the identity of the kidnappers within 24 hours of the kidnapping. He stressed the fact that both were in administrative detention in the past, a fact that he says shows that this measure is used against clear dangers to national security.

The additional suspects who have been arrested by security forces are part of the Hamas in Hebron infrastructure, and are suspected of playing a role in the kidnapping, the source said. 

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu related to the naming of the suspects, during a speech at a graduation ceremony for new pilots on Thursday, saying that now that the names were known, he expected Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas — whom he again praised for strongly condemning the kidnappings — to dissolve his pact with Hamas

Thus far there’s no sign of Gil-Ad Shaer,16, Naftali Fraenkel, 16, or Eyal Yifrah, 19. Hamas has denied allegations that their members were involved in the kidnapping, calling the claims “stupid.”

(Hat tip/ just)

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  1. seafoid
    June 26, 2014, 4:01 pm

    Why would abbas dissolve the partnership? Netanyahu is really channelling his inner Jewish mother in law.

    The kidnapping served to show nobody cares about Israel shooting and crying.

    • Annie Robbins
      June 26, 2014, 4:05 pm

      Why would abbas dissolve the partnership?

      to end the sweeps/home invasions/killings?

      • seafoid
        June 26, 2014, 4:23 pm

        I think the rapprochement had a logic that went beyond whether Israel liked it or not.

      • jd65
        June 26, 2014, 6:07 pm

        If Abbas did dissolve the partnership due to these, as yet unconfirmed, kidnappings, he and Netanyahu would say that it would be “to end the sweeps/home invasions/killings,” as you say. But after a brief period of “relative calm,” I assume the sweeps/home invasions/and killings would continue just as they have for decades and decades. The dissolution would stop nothing, really. Maybe if we got Scarlett Johansson to interrogate Gary Oldman w/ some enhanced interrogation techniques at Gitmo, we could get some solid intel on these three Jewish Israeli teenagers…

      • Annie Robbins
        June 26, 2014, 6:34 pm

        Maybe if we got Scarlett Johansson to interrogate Gary Oldman w/ some enhanced interrogation techniques at Gitmo, we could get some solid intel on these three Jewish Israeli teenagers…

        Maybe if we got Scarlett Johansson to interrogate netanyahu w/ some enhanced interrogation techniques at Gitmo, we could get some solid intel on these three Jewish Israeli teenagers…

      • jd65
        June 26, 2014, 11:37 pm

        Bingo!

  2. just
    June 26, 2014, 4:07 pm

    The agenda that most here were aware of, is made public– ‘justification’ for administrative detention and dissolution of the unity government.

    Why have so many Palestinians been terrorized, kidnapped and killed in the hunt for the “known” alleged suspects in the alleged kidnapping of three Israeli teens?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      June 26, 2014, 4:14 pm

      ”Why have so many Palestinians been terrorized, kidnapped and killed in the hunt for the “known” alleged suspects in the alleged kidnapping of three Israeli teens?”

      Because they could. It really is that simple.

      Never underestimate the sheer nastiness and vindictiveness of Zionism.

  3. yonah fredman
    June 26, 2014, 4:09 pm

    The leaders of Hamas celebrated the kidnapping as an opportunity. Abbas condemned the kidnapping. There is a contradiction. In other words these two positions are difficult to reconcile. Abbas, if he is thinking of retiring, may be trying to usher in a new relationship between PLO and Hamas or at least rectify the mistake of the civil war of Fatah versus Hamas and therefore his goal is greater than differing positions on the kidnapping. But the two positions are quite different.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      June 26, 2014, 4:18 pm

      Yes, because the only thing that matters is whether or not the two parties have the same attitude to a ‘kidnapping’ of 3 students. Nothing else matters. The sacred students trump everything. They’re Israeli, after all.

    • oldgeezer
      June 26, 2014, 4:35 pm

      Can’t these others ever get it through their stoneage thick heads that western liberal democracies never have any difference of opinion between political leaders?

      Really? I hope you do sarcasm.

    • seafoid
      June 26, 2014, 4:48 pm

      3 settlers are irrelevant in the bigger scheme of things, Yonah. Why should the Palestinians care about them ? Why should they get in the way of something the Palestinians have been waiting for almost a decade ?

      • DaBakr
        June 26, 2014, 5:13 pm

        gideon levy agrees with you in most recent haaretz piece

    • Shingo
      June 26, 2014, 5:13 pm

      The leaders of Hamas celebrated the kidnapping as an opportunity.

      Why did you make up the word “opportunity” Yonah?

      • yonah fredman
        June 26, 2014, 6:59 pm

        Hamas leader in exile Meshal congratulated the Palestinian people for capturing what he called “soldiers” and implied that these prisoners should be used to free Palestinian prisoners. He sees this kidnapping as an opportunity to force Israel to release prisoners.
        http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/06/25/hamas-leader-falsely-claims-3-kidnapped-children-were-soldiers/

      • Shingo
        June 26, 2014, 7:36 pm

        Hamas leader in exile Meshal congratulated the Palestinian people for capturing what he called “soldiers” and implied that these prisoners should be used to free Palestinian prisoners.

        In other words, you made up the word “opportunity”.

        He sees this kidnapping as an opportunity to force Israel to release prisoners.

        Does he? So where is the offer for a prisoner swap? And how does that square with the fact that Israel re-arrested 56 of those they released under the Shalit swap and that Hamas would have known Israel would do this?

      • RoHa
        June 26, 2014, 7:56 pm

        We know that all Palestinian seven-year-olds are junior terrorists. Seems reasonable to think of Jewish teenagers as junior soldiers.

      • Hostage
        June 27, 2014, 8:08 am

        He sees this kidnapping as an opportunity to force Israel to release prisoners.

        Oh please, when the Israeli High Court of Justice finally ruled that the law didn’t permit the use of administrative detention to hold prisoners for use as bargaining chips, the Knesset took the hint and adopted a version of the “Unlawful Combatants Law” that does permit the practice.

        In any event, the Shin Bet security service and the Israeli government have always used Palestinian prisoners as hostages and bargaining chips. When Shalit was captured they ignored the AG’s advice and did it anyway. See
        * AG refuses to ok use of Hamas officials as ‘bargaining chips’
        G8: IDF detention of 64 lawmakers raises ‘concerns’; Israel warns not even Haniyeh immune from detention. http://www.haaretz.com/news/ag-refuses-to-ok-use-of-hamas-officials-as-bargaining-chips-1.191639
        * IDF Court Frees Bargaining Chip for Shalit: An IDF court in Wednesday freed a senior Hamas political leader after 36 months in jail, leaving Israel with one less bargaining chip for Shalit. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131946

      • Giles
        June 27, 2014, 8:12 am

        Algemeiner? A nice, unbiased, neutral source. Kind of like Der Sturmer.

  4. Maximus Decimus Meridius
    June 26, 2014, 4:13 pm

    ”saying that now that the names were known, he expected Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas — whom he again praised for strongly condemning the kidnappings — to dissolve his pact with Hamas. ”

    Huh? Didn’t they say the names were ‘known’ from Day one? Didn’t they share this ‘information’ with the PA, given that they tasked the PA with finding their precious settlers?

    Bibi’s attempt to cynically use this disappearance for political leverage is getting increasingly desperate. The little stunt with the mothers visiting the UN seems to have provoked – at most – a big yawn around the world. And while it’s true that Israel’s path of death and destruction across the WB has been ignored, as always, byt the Western media, so too has the ‘plight’ of the missing settlers. It’s almost as though – gasp! – the world is saying that Israelis are no more special than anyone else, and that its little antics are becoming ever more tiresome.

    ”Now Israel is discovering that it’s no longer the center of attention as it always was before, and that the fate of its kidnapping victims no longer stops the world in its tracks, not even in the United States. The world is sick of Israel and its insanities. Unfortunately, the world has also lost interest in what happens here. When Israel was a more just country, the world identified with its victims. It continued to do so even when Israel became less just. But now, when Israeli rejectionism is hitting new heights and its oppression of the Palestinians is returning to what it was during the very worst periods, the world has started getting tired of it all. Even the kidnapped Nigerian girls interest it more. ”

    http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/.premium-1.601243?v=4D11ADD0ED2AC72D4F92594A16B9D7B9

    • a blah chick
      June 26, 2014, 7:24 pm

      I’m really trying to have some sympathy for the parents but they are making it damn hard. If the Jewish mothers had show some solidarity with the Palestinian mothers they might have actually had some great press.

      But when you live in an emotional shtetl everyone looks like a cossack.

  5. Paldi5
    June 26, 2014, 4:20 pm

    They have known the wanted men for 2 weeks now… why did they wait to have their pictures released so the public could look for them?

    I think the “kidnapers” were also kidnapped… so they can be scapegoats.

    • just
      June 26, 2014, 4:30 pm

      Not beyond the realm of possibility. It seems so strange that they waited so long to release the pics and id.

      And who did this?

      “Young Palestinian man found hanged in Ramallah field”

      http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=707960

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius
        June 26, 2014, 4:40 pm

        Like I said, I think the Israelis are getting desperate.

        Their big hasbara roll-out at the UN was a damp squib. The world is too busy watching the World Cup and worrying about Iraq to fret over a few missing hikers. And even among the brainwashed Israeli public, some must be asking why 2 weeks of a rampage haven’t yielded any results – even though Bibi said he was sure the Khamas were involved from day one. Whatever happened to Israel’s much boasted of ‘intelligence’ services?

        So it was time to liven things up a bit. Release photos of the ‘suspects’ and hope that nobody asks why, if you knew who the ‘kidnappers’ were all along, you went on a rampage across the West Bank. Of course, since the victims of said rampage were Arabs, most Israelis won’t give a toss.

      • just
        June 26, 2014, 6:49 pm

        omg– That song was running thru my mind when I read that awful article, annie.

        He’d been disappeared for 9 days. Of course, not a peep about him anywhere in print til I read that today. With the number of Palestinians being kidnapped, I guess one more didn’t make headlines.

      • a blah chick
        June 26, 2014, 7:19 pm

        There needs to be an autopsy by a trusted individual. My understanding is that you can tell if someone hanged themselves or was hanged.

      • bilal a
        June 27, 2014, 7:47 am

        settler lynchings?

        Israelis who dressed up as Ku Klux Klan members on Purim make waves on Facebook
        http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Israelis-who-dressed-up-as-Ku-Klux-Klan-members-on-Purim-make-waves-on-Facebook-345846

      • Annie Robbins
        June 27, 2014, 8:26 am

        allison’s coverage was excellent: Israeli teens dressed as KKK and in ‘black face’ for mock lynching at school Purim party http://mondoweiss.net/2014/03/israeli-dressed-lynching.html

  6. Justpassingby
    June 26, 2014, 4:40 pm

    More and more obvious that israel know where the guys are, what a crazy regime.

    Lets see what puppet abbas do for him.

  7. Justpassingby
    June 26, 2014, 4:40 pm

    More and more obvious that israel know where the guys are, what a crazy regime.

    Lets see what puppet abbas do for israel.

  8. just
    June 26, 2014, 4:43 pm

    Numbers are climbing:

    “Group: 566 Palestinians detained since Israeli campaign began

    The Palestinian Prisoner’s Society said that on Wednesday and Thursday alone, 26 Palestinians were detained.

    According to PPS’s list:

    – Hebron, 201 detainees.
    – Nablus, 90 detainees.
    – Bethlehem, 79 detainees.
    – Jenin, 56 detainees.
    – Ramallah, 52 detainees.
    – Jerusalem, 36 detainees.
    – Tulkarem, 24 detainees.
    – Qalqiliya, 13 detainees.
    – Tubas, seven detainees, and Salfit, seven detainees.
    – Jericho, one detainee.

    The detainees include 12 members of the Palestinian parliament, the Palestinian Legislative Council.

    Over the course of “Operation Brother’s Keepers,” as Israel has deemed the campaign, six Palestinians have been shot and killed by Israeli forces, while two elderly Palestinians have suffered heart attacks during army raids on their villages.

    More than 120 have been wounded, and more than 1,200 homes and offices across the West Bank have been raided, including universities and publishing companies, in what rights groups have decried as “collective punishment.””

    http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=708055

  9. seafoid
    June 26, 2014, 4:53 pm

    The shit hot Shin Bet still hasn’t found the settlers. After 2 weeks.
    It just goes to show the pointlessness of Jews torturing Palestinians.

    They should remove torture from the list of mitzvot to fetish ha eretz, the land.
    Prayers would be just as holy if unsupported by torture.

  10. justicewillprevail
    June 26, 2014, 4:57 pm

    On past and current evidence, what credibility can anyone give to these allegations? And what will count as evidence? It seems more important to Israel that they can accuse anyone with connections to Hamas rather than produce any actual evidence. This is a political campaign, not a criminal investigation.

  11. W.Jones
    June 26, 2014, 5:05 pm

    Very many Palestinians have gone missing since 1948. Sometimes there were Palestinians labeled “infiltrators” who returned from Jordan and were captured, disappearing into a black hole.

    It’s like reports of the American frontier. Pioneers went missing, so it’s time to go after the natives’ village.

    Except that Palestinians are often not even recognized as native by the new settlers, and instead labeled Arabs, as if they came from the deserts.

    • Hostage
      June 28, 2014, 11:03 am

      @ W Jones answering you here: ((As made clear in the criteria for derivative status above, in all cases, refugees and their descendants retain the status of refugees until that status lapses through the achievement of a just and lasting solution. Again, I will allow published UNHCR documents to speak for themselves.)) link to unrwa.org

      You can show me the UN documents, if you want, but the Convention in question doesn’t provide for any such thing as “a right of return”or “repatriation” of a person who has the recognized legal status of a refugee.

      In fact the convention deals with prohibitions against refoulment or return and treats refugee status, country of origin, country of habitual residence, and country of nationality as separate and distinct legal questions. Even if it did provide such guarantees, the definition of the term refugee in Article 1 of the 1951 Refugee Convention explicitly excluded the refugees provided for by the UNRWA from the scope of applicability of the convention. That can be verified by the text of Article 1 itself and the travaux préparatoires, which are readily available online. http://www.unhcr.org/pages/49da0e466.html

      That was done quite deliberately by the authors, which included the representatives of the government of Israel and the Allied powers. They had no capacity to deal with or transport the millions of WWII era refugees from Asia.

      The working group report on statelessness simply recommended that rights granted to a refugee be extended to immediate family members. http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=E/1618 But that simply made them refugees. There is no consensus that the altruistic statement in the convention itself regarding the aim of preserving family unity creates any binding legal obligation, since it merely concludes with a “recommendation” to governments. It doesn’t stipulate that it covers the disposition of adult descendants or succeeding generations, rather than minor children. But in customary UN practice the refugee status is passed from generation to generation. It cannot be inferred that this implies the existence of an unmentioned, penumbral right of return in accordance with the customary rules of treaty interpretation contained in the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, since the convention explicitly provides for resettlement and acquisition of citizenship in other countries and involuntary loss of refugee status.

      I think that a good case can be made for the right of descendants who remain refugees to return to their family’s country of origin based upon the Citizenship Ordinance of 1925, the Hague rules regarding family honor and rights, and the Geneva Conventions and Protocols. That does not include members of the diaspora who have resettled outside of Palestine/Jordan. That argument isn’t based upon the ineffective patchwork of rules in the 1951 convention or its additional protocol.

  12. Woody Tanaka
    June 26, 2014, 5:26 pm

    So we’re just supposed to trust that the Isreali Gestapo is telling us the truth??? LMAO. A claim by the Shin Bet without evidence tells me that these men are probably quite innocent of anything (Other than their unforgivable non-Jewishness, that is.)

  13. Daniel Rich
    June 26, 2014, 6:55 pm

    I just finished texting with Donny Rumsfeld and according to him the WMDs [Women of Madness and Sexuality] are to be found North, South, East and West of Haifa…

    The Apartheid State will milk this ‘Golden Goose’ for how long?

  14. a blah chick
    June 26, 2014, 7:11 pm

    “A senior security source told The Jerusalem Post that the Shin Bet confirmed the identity of the kidnappers within 24 hours of the kidnapping. ”

    If that is true then why were the army people complaining, just a day or two ago, that the were getting NO useful information from the Shinbet guys?

    Silverstein had an interesting post up in which he said that the agreement to end the hunger strike might be tied to getting new info on the hikers. He said if something breaks in the next few days this could be why.

    So, here’s an interesting thought, what if these suspects’ names came not from the Shinbet but from the PA and/or Hamas? “Relieve the conditions for the hunger strikers and we’ll supply some names.” And if this is true do you think we will ever hear of it? Mr. Sara would be in hot hummus if that is true.

    I know, dear hearts, that all this is confusing, but just keep two things in mind and it makes more sense.
    1. The Israeli government is incapable of telling the truth.
    2. They could not find their butts with two hands and some guy spotting for them with a flashlight.

    • just
      June 26, 2014, 7:21 pm

      “I know, dear hearts, that all this is confusing, but just keep two things in mind and it makes more sense.
      1. The Israeli government is incapable of telling the truth.
      2. They could not find their butts with two hands and some guy spotting for them with a flashlight.”

      You are a very funny ‘chick’, abc!

    • amigo
      June 27, 2014, 6:30 am

      Ron prosor at the un refers to the alledged kidnapped teens as “schoolboys”.

      That p—k is one bad seed.Accounts for his sudden rise in Israeli propaganda circles.

      Do not have a link?, Sorry.

  15. Daniel Rich
    June 26, 2014, 7:33 pm

    Yeah, let’s all forget about those Palestinian unity thingies.

    “It worked… Again!” – BB slapping himself on the back.

  16. a blah chick
    June 26, 2014, 8:41 pm

    ” According to the Post , under questioning in the past Quasma “confessed” to obtaining raw materials for “the assembly of bombs”.

    Did the questioning involve being hung by his hands or feet?

  17. piotr
    June 26, 2014, 9:19 pm

    I would assume that the announcement is true, the question is: what does it mean.

    The identity of the suspects was know to Shin Beth even before kidnapping, because they were detained and interrogated before. So even before the kidnapping Shin Beth had a list of several hundred suspects. The mystery is how those two became the main suspects.

    One possibility is that they match a description of people seen bear the last place where the teens were seen, or some other type of evidence. The second possibility is that out of the long initial list those two remained at large. I suspect the latter, but perhaps we should wait few more days.

  18. Qualtrough
    June 26, 2014, 11:53 pm

    If they had the kidnappers identified within 24 hours it makes it clearer than ever that the Israeli actions have little to do with the kidnapping and much more to do with destroying the reconciliation. Not that there was much doubt, but there should be none now.

  19. Taxi
    June 26, 2014, 11:57 pm

    Okay, so the gestapo has names and faces of alleged kidnappers. So when do they release the 500+ Palestinians detained in the sweep?

    p.s. the word ‘scapegoat’ keeps ringing in my ear.

    • Annie Robbins
      June 27, 2014, 12:12 am

      So when do they release the 500+ Palestinians detained in the sweep?

      my hunch is the hordes won’t be satisfied until they’ve ‘captured’ as many as they released in the shalit trade off.

      the word ‘scapegoat’ keeps ringing in my ear.

      oh wow, that never would have occurred to me taxi. you have such a vivid lively imagination. ;)

      • Shingo
        June 27, 2014, 2:10 am

        my hunch is the hordes won’t be satisfied until they’ve ‘captured’ as many as they released in the shalit trade off.

        And Bennet and Ayalon will argue that this latest episode proves the Shalit swap was a bad idea and that they deserve to be back in captivity.

        I was thinking today, imagine if the Palestinians had the military power to carry out the same siege against Israel after the Nakba Day murders? Arresting Israelis by the hundreds in search of the shooter and killing 5 or 6.

        Israel and it’s supporters would be declaring it the second Holocaust and howling for military strikes, sanctions blah blah blah.

      • Shmuel
        June 27, 2014, 2:54 am

        I was thinking today, imagine if the Palestinians had the military power to carry out the same siege against Israel after the Nakba Day murders? Arresting Israelis by the hundreds in search of the shooter and killing 5 or 6.

        Sayed Kashua wrote something along those lines (trying to hold a mirror up to Jewish Israeli society) in his Haaretz column last week and fell flat, even with “leftists” like Alexander Yakovson, who missed the entire point — responding to Kashua with a paean to Israeli moral superiority.

        Kashua’s mirror is a lot softer than Haneen Zoabi’s (he’s a humorist; she’s a politician), but the reactions are analogous.

        The self-righteous and otherising Jewish Israeli bubble is the theme of this week’s column (with a particular dig at [Ashkenazi] “leftists” in the punchline).

      • Shingo
        June 27, 2014, 5:12 am

        Sayed Kashua wrote something along those lines (trying to hold a mirror up to Jewish Israeli society) in his Haaretz column last week and fell flat, even with “leftists” like Alexander Yakovson, who missed the entire point — responding to Kashua with a paean to Israeli moral superiority.

        That’s central to my point Shmuel – that Israel’s moral superiority goes without saying and any reversal of the roles would be anathema to Israel and it’s apologists. Even among PEPs, never in the darkest recesses of their minds could they contemplate a reversal of roles, much less entertain the concept of walking in someone else’s shoes.

        After all these years, it still boggles the mind that these people have the chutzpah to protest the disappearance of the 3 youths while remaining impervious to the fact 500 have been locked up and 6 killed since they disappeared even after you bring the enormous disparity to their attention.

        Must be that Jewish fingernail principal.

    • Shingo
      June 27, 2014, 1:49 am

      So when do they release the 500+ Palestinians detained in the sweep?

      Exactly. By their own admission, these 500 detainees were falsely arrested. Even if they argue they are trying to find the accused, there is no way all 500 know anything.

      • piotr
        June 28, 2014, 1:57 am

        “That’s central to my point Shmuel – that Israel’s moral superiority goes without saying…”

        To the contrary, Israeli moral superiority is a topic that is perhaps a favorite subject of numerous articles, sermons etc. There are so many facets of that superiority that one could research the topic for a year and write a fat book. For example, Jews, unlike some other nations, did not practice human sacrifice (what is remarkable is that a rabbi filled most of his column making the moral superiority claim centered on that theme). One group of the themes is what is it that only Israel does. There were two columns with lamentations that Mrs. Amina Abbas, the wife of Mahmud Abbas, had a knee operation around the time of kidnapping, and was not taken hostage by Israel “as any other nation would do”. The morose conclusion was that Israel is too moral for her good.

  20. Taxi
    June 27, 2014, 12:56 am

    Who wants to take a bet that a (fake) rescue op will take place several days after the world cup?

    • Annie Robbins
      June 27, 2014, 1:45 am

      count me in. it’s so odd taxi, i was thinking earlier of posting ‘who’s interested in placing bets on when the ‘boys’ will be ‘rescued’.

      here’s what i imagine. hundreds of israeli troops will storm a home or ‘compound’/cave or whatever. a bunch of palestinians will get killed along with the alleged kidnappers. then, out of the smoke and mirrors the teens will rise like phoenixes and of course it will be antisemitic to suggest they came in as invading troops and came out as befuddles rescued boys. it will make all the headlines.

      i was reading earlier about http://www.wrmea.org/archives/168-washington-report-archives-1994-1999/february-march-1996/1856-in-memoriam-micael-emery-1940-1995.html

      After the Oct. 8, 1990 massacre of Palestinian worshippers at al-Aqsa mosque, Emery traveled to Jerusalem to research the events leading to the murder of dozens of Muslims within the mosque precincts by Israeli police and border guards. By correlating the exact sequence of events as recorded by three separate videotapes prepared by amateur photographers located in different parts of the city, Prof. Emery conclusively disproved the Israeli version of the massacre, which had been reported as fact by two correspondents for the New York Times, Joel Brinkley and Sabra Chartrand. When they declined to correct their published reports, even after he showed them the videotapes, Emery prepared a detailed article, “The Temple Mount Massacre,” which appeared in the Nov. 13, 1990 Village Voice.

      Prof. Emery conclusively disproved the Israeli version of the 1990 al-Aqsa mosque massacre.

      His in-depth exposé was picked up by CBS’ “60 Minutes” and his research was acknowledged on the air as the source for the program’s accurate segment on the Jerusalem massacre.

      before emery, what was reported was a fabricated lie. here’s more http://mondoweiss.net/2012/04/book-recounts-mike-wallace-being-attacked-at-ny-party-by-barbara-walters-and-mort-zuckerman-over-60-minutes-israel-coverage.html

      they have been doing this for decades, why should we believe them now?

    • Shingo
      June 27, 2014, 1:53 am

      They’ll probably time it with the actual final to ensure minimal press coverage – the same way that chose the 2008 US presidential elections as cover for breaking the ceasefire to launch Cast Lead.

      • Taxi
        June 27, 2014, 2:31 am

        Shingo,
        For sure they’ll be doing the killing, oops I mean the ‘rescuing’ soon enough – but I suspect they’d, as per usual, want to show off their powers by stealing the limelight out of any other story du jour. I suspect their larger than life macho egos would prefer the World Cup Final to be over first – no headline competition then and the eyes of the world can then focus on the grand spectacle of jewish military power .

  21. Walid
    June 27, 2014, 4:24 am

    Taxi, Richard Silverstein is saying the same thing about these 2 dead men walking. They will surely be summarily executed on sight and the case closed:

    … The two suspects named have not been directly associated with the crime in any way. They merely disappeared the same day as the kidnapping. So the Shin Bet is putting various clues together (it’s arrested many of their relatives and questioned them mercilessly, including a pregnant wife) and from this deduces that they committed the crime. But as in many similar incidents involving Israeli intelligence, you have to take a step back and compare what you’re told with the evidence that’s actually been offered.

    It’s very possible that these two Palestinians, who have a history of involvement with Hamas’ military wing, are involved in the kidnapping. It’s possible they had no involvement. You won’t read any of this skepticism in the Israeli media, not even in the vaunted liberal bastion, Haaretz. It’s a shameful breach of journalistic standards to become a mouthpiece for the intelligence services. But that’s how it is in the national security state.

    At most, you will only read a line or two about what may’ve motivated them to commit such a crime (if they did): fathers in prison, brothers murdered by the IDF. But this is soft-pedaled because no Israeli reader wants to know about a Palestinian’s personal history, especially not one “guilty” of unspeakable crimes against Israeli children. There is one thing of which you may be certain: when and if they are found, they will be summarily executed. Of course, it won’t be presented to the media that way. The IDF never puts a bullet in a Palestinian from point blank range. It’s always: ‘the terrorist fired at soldiers who returned fire and killed him;’ or when told to surrender he fired a fussilade of bullets, which the IDF responded to, killing him.’ Palestinian militants always, according to Israeli news accounts, go out with guns blazing like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. The reality is more like they are hunted down like rabid dogs and “put to sleep” by their IDF executioners.

    http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2014/06/27/hebron-kidnapping-dont-believe-the-lies/#commentform

    • Shingo
      June 27, 2014, 5:20 am

      They merely disappeared the same day as the kidnapping. So the Shin Bet is putting various clues together (it’s arrested many of their relatives and questioned them mercilessly, including a pregnant wife) and from this deduces that they committed the crime.

      It’s unbelievable how flimsy Israel’s cases are ins’t it?

      1. They pinned the assassination of Hariri on Hezbollah based on nothing more than the fact a few cell phones were present in the vicinity of the attack on the day.

      And let’s not beat around the Bush here – the whole BS tribunal is there to placate Israel.

      2. They pinned the Bulgaria bus bombing on Hezbollah because:

      a. The faked driver’s license was traced back to a printer in Beirut
      b. The suspects (not even proven that they were present) apparently exhibited behaviour consistent with someone belonging to a militant organization
      c. The SIM card could be traced back to a phone company in Morocco – where Hezbollah has no presence.

      The fact that the Bulgarian government TWICE said there was no evidence linking the attack to Hezbollah is ignored and Bulgarian leaders are forced to change their story to reflect Israel’s narrative.
      And then they have the chutzpah to claim that incriminating footage is fake.

    • Shingo
      June 27, 2014, 5:24 am

      It’s always: ‘the terrorist fired at soldiers who returned fire and killed him;’ or when told to surrender he fired a fussilade of bullets, which the IDF responded to, killing him.’ Palestinian militants always, according to Israeli news accounts, go out with guns blazing like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

      Miraculously of course, the fatal wounds somehow are always from close range or to the back of the head or both.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      June 27, 2014, 11:08 am

      I thought Richard Silverstein said that, according to his well-informed source, the teens are almost certainly dead?

  22. a blah chick
    June 27, 2014, 7:01 am

    The Silverstein post does provide an answer for why the police took their to start a search. It seems that the emergency dispatcher did turn it over to the supervisor who thought it was a prank because no one answered when they phoned back. This might mean that the police are often pranced I this way OR Jews in area c feel so safe they don’t think about dangers.

    Advice to any Mondos who might be traveling to there, if you get kidnapped by a killer clown and you manage to get off one call to the police be sure to answer when they call back! No, being chained to a wall in a basement is no excuse….use a Bluetooth.

    So these guys are suspects because they disappeared the same day as the youths, so maybe they were kidnapped too! How about searching some settlements for them.

  23. just
    June 27, 2014, 7:10 am

    “HEBRON (Ma’an) — Israeli settlers accompanied by soldiers early Friday raided a Palestinian home in Hebron and assaulted ten members of a family, who were mostly children, before soldiers detained ten other individuals from the house.

    Settlers from the Kiryat Arba settlement near Hebron attacked houses belonging to the al-Jaabari family in al-Ras neighborhood of central Hebron while they were escorted by a large number of soldiers.

    The family told Ma’an that “soldiers tried to kill the innocent children with a dagger, and when the family fought back they detained some of them.””

    http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=708242

    • Kay24
      June 27, 2014, 7:21 am

      “We shall use terror, intimidation, assassination…..” etc.

      that must be the terror and intimidation part.

    • Annie Robbins
      June 27, 2014, 7:45 am

      The Jaabari family lives on land directly beside the Jewish settlement areas of Kiryat Arba and Givat Haavot.

      The family used to live in the area of Givat Haavot, before they were evicted in order to make way for the Jewish-only settlement.

      The family is regularly subjected to harassment by local settlers who seek to expand areas under their control, and the army has rarely acted on family complaints about the incidents.

      • just
        June 27, 2014, 7:54 am

        Carpe diem, Israeli style.

        Settlers escorted by IOF. State- sponsored terrorists.

  24. Taxi
    June 27, 2014, 7:19 am

    The accused alleged kidnappers are missing – two Palestinian youths (one of them apparently is in ill health and on meds; also he’s about to become a father). Israel has given their names out but no evidence to support the kidnap claims.

    Well I reckon not only have shin bet/mosad conspired and kidnaped their own, but also the two accused were kidnapped by the same thug hands. Wouldn’t put it past the israelis one freaking bit.

    Here on mw, we’ve been warning zionists that if they don’t change their lying ways, the world will one day wake up to their deceptions and israel will be the loser in this. We warned them for years that they are fast becoming The Boy Who Cried Wolf – and wadayaknow, they’ve actually NOW become The Boy Who Cried Wolf cuz hardly ANYONE believes this false flag op at this stage, and I’m talking about even your average commentator on yahoonews – everywhere you look, even on pro israel sites, someone out there is questioning and their numbers are increasing by the day – millions of regular people who are not brainwashed by zio are just not buying the convenient storyline.

    And how does the story of The Boy Who Cried Wolf end?

    • just
      June 27, 2014, 7:35 am

      Very true, Taxi

      So this happened:

      “UN Security Council rejects Iran, Saudi request to condemn Israel

      The UN Security Council on Thursday rejected another attempt of Arab and Muslim countries to condemn Israel’s military operation in the West Bank to find the abducted Israeli teenagers.

      A petition from a coalition of Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar was raised during a closed discussion of the UN Security Council.

      Palestinian UN observer Riyad Mansour was joined by UN representatives from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Qatar, Senegal and the League of Arab States.

      “These acts should not go without any strong reaction from the Security Council, They are grave violations of human rights and international humanitarian law,” said Qatar’s representative, Sheikha Alya Bint Ahmed Bin Saif al Thani, urging the Security Council to act against Israel.

      Israel’s Ambassador to the UN, Ron Prosor, was bewildered that “Rather than denouncing this appalling attack, the Arab nations have the audacity to stand before you today and criticize Israel.”

      “Even after Palestinian (Authority) President (Mahmoud) Abbas condemned the kidnapping, the Palestinian representative did not have the courage and dignity to denounce an attack on three schoolboys,” he added.

      “Today the lecture was brought to you by the UN’s odd couple – Iran and Saudi Arabia. Back home they are fighting a proxy war in Syria, but here at the UN – love is in the air… Unbelievable! The only thing they have in common – both are cradles of terrorism and radicalism in the Middle East,” he said, reminding the UN that “one created Hezbollah and the other created al-Qaeda.”

      “Both of these countries have the audacity to stand here and accuse Israel of human rights violations. Well, they really need a good look in the mirror,” he continued.”

      http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4535279,00.html

  25. just
    June 27, 2014, 7:44 am

    “Ahead of the support rally planned for Sunday night at Rabin Square in Tel Aviv, the mothers of the three abducted teenagers – Naftali Frenkel, Eyal Yifrach and Gil-Ad Shaer – met on Thursday with Yedioth Ahronot for their first joint interview.

    “People tell us Naftali, Gil-Ad and Eyal are everyone’s kids,” Rachel Frenkel, Naftali’s mother, said. “And everyone wants to do something to bring them home. So we want to see the entire Israeli society with us on Sunday, for everyone to be together.””

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4535250,00.html

    In the article, the author seems to stress something about ‘smiling’…….

    • a blah chick
      June 27, 2014, 8:56 am

      Having been raised in the southern Baptist tradition and been a child of the sixties I want to be all kambaya with these ladies but they are starting to get on my nerves.

      • just
        June 27, 2014, 9:14 am

        I’m with you on that.

    • Walid
      June 27, 2014, 9:04 am

      A jamboree in TA. They’re turning the whole thing into a circus while they go on killing and oppressing the Palestinians.

      • just
        June 27, 2014, 9:17 am

        Ringling Bros. & Barnum and Bailey are so green with envy…

        I hope those young men appear shortly & go home to their moms.

      • Walid
        June 27, 2014, 9:33 am

        Their moms are now evidently contractors for Israeli government PR with all their brouhaha about holding jamborees and referring to the Palestinian prisoners that agreed to end their fast as “terrorists”. I’m slowly losing the sympathy I had for them because they seem more concerned about the government message they are conveying than about the safety of their children. To talk stooopid like the Zionists, maybe these kids ran away from home. Their mothers sure don’t look like they’re in knots.

      • seafoid
        June 27, 2014, 10:06 am

        Mrs Frankel told the UN she lived in Israel. None of the settlements are in Israel.

      • just
        June 27, 2014, 10:36 am

        That was pretty glaring, eh? Wonder how many people caught that.

      • seafoid
        June 27, 2014, 10:45 am

        The other thing about her speech I didn’t like was the unilateralism of the call for justice. Either we are all sacred or nobody is.
        Sure her kids deserve to be treated fairly but so do all non Jewish kids in Eretz Israel HaWTF.

      • Woody Tanaka
        June 27, 2014, 10:55 am

        “The other thing about her speech I didn’t like was the unilateralism of the call for justice. Either we are all sacred or nobody is.”

        And that is the problem with the Israelis and, it seems, Zionists in general. They are absolutely unwilling to give justice to the Palestinians, but demand it for themselves. She is a morally repugnant person.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius
        June 27, 2014, 11:07 am

        I agree. I hope the teens are safe, but I have NO sympathy for their parents. They chose to send their children to study in hostile territory where they are not protected by international law, and later, when they went missing, enthusiastically allowed their sons to be used for cynical propaganda purposes.

        And I don’t know, but if my child were missing, assumed kidnapped by some genocidal terrorist gang, I would NOT want to be away in another continent. I would want to be right there, sitting by the phone, ready to go and see my son the second he was found. And yes, I know people respond differently to trauma, but this farcicial little jaunt, as well as the photos of the parents beaming from ear to ear with Szimon Peres, makes me me wonder if they know something we don’t.

  26. Shmuel
    June 27, 2014, 8:16 am

    Two interesting comments in the Israeli press on the publication of the identities of the two “suspects”:

    Alex Fishman (Yediot) writes that “There is only one logical explanation” for the publication at such an early stage in the investigation (i.e. without any real evidence), and that is “to take the pressure off the government”, which has demanded immediate results from the Shin Bet and the army, “because the public is losing patience”.

    Amos Harel (Haaretz) writes that neither the Shin Bet nor the army have a clue, and the fact that these names –known to the media for about 10 days already — have been released just shows how little they really have to go on.

    • seafoid
      June 27, 2014, 10:49 am

      They are not getting any co-operation from the Palestinians. That’s the price of Bennett’s gung ho approach. Sure he can make the prison conditions more harsh but he’ll lose something in doing that.

      The game has very clear rules and Israel threw away the rulebook.
      Settlers are easy targets if people want to hurt them too. The much vaunted Shin Bet can’t do anything in this case.

      There are serious costs to Israel dropping the 2 state paradigm and betting on apartheid.

  27. DoubleStandard
    June 27, 2014, 8:43 am

    The author of this post seems almost happy that the kids haven’t been found.

    And what kind of “proof” are you looking for exactly? Netanyahu has named two Hamas members as the kidnappers

    The Palestinians can’t have it both ways — you can’t elect a government that runs on a platform of waging jihad against the Jewish people, and then complain when Israel reacts to a cowardly act of terrorism against its children.

    Most of the people who have been arrested are involved with Hamas, and the 6 people who have been killed attacked Israeli troops.

    You guys can watch a video on Youtube of Palestinians throwing Molotov cocktails at Israeli search parties.

    Israel is not reacting any more severely than any other country would in its position.

    But the Israelis are Jews so well, different standard for them.

    • just
      June 27, 2014, 9:10 am

      “But the Israelis are Jews so well, different standard for them.”

      There are Israeli Christians, Muslims and Atheists too, aren’t there?

      The rest of your post is really quite pathetic.

      • MHughes976
        June 27, 2014, 12:13 pm

        The important question is not whether standards are double but whether they are valid. Things that fall under the heading of collective punishment should not happen, according to many of us, because that disregards differences between individuals which are essential for justice. If someone does this then they have fallen short of a standard to which everyone should be held and moral reproach of them is justified: if someone else has got away with the same behaviour without much reproach then that is, by parity of reasoning, wrong. But so is the behaviour which has been reproached; the first one does not lapse whatever happens in the other case. The reason why it does not lapse is the universal nature of moral reasoning.
        Other examples of collective punishment do occur to me. I think that they have been reproached quite strongly.

      • DoubleStandard
        June 27, 2014, 2:52 pm

        The punishment isn’t collective. They’re looking for the kids and trying to suppress the terrorist cells that carried the kidnappings out.

        That gets in the way of the lives of the 2.5 million Palestinians.

        Unless you can prove that they’re deliberately trying to burden the lives of people who have nothing to do with the kidnapping and getting no investigative benefit in return, the charge of “collective punishment” is empty.

        The burden is on the accuser to prove its charge, not on Israel to prove that it isn’t.

        And you’re right — just because one person does the wrong think obviously doesn’t license anyone else to copy that bad behavior.

        But one has to ask why you are so interested in a conflict that affects 1/1000 of the world’s population yet have very little concern over situations involving so many more people.

      • Annie Robbins
        June 27, 2014, 10:49 pm

        The burden is on the accuser to prove its charge….Unless you can prove that they’re deliberately trying to…

        israel has accused hamas of kidnapping 3 teens, therefore they are the accusers and the burden is on israel to prove its charge. using collective punishment to do that, is illegal.

      • Shingo
        June 27, 2014, 10:53 pm

        The punishment isn’t collective.

        Wrong, even Danny Danon admits it is.

        They’re looking for the kids and trying to suppress the terrorist cells that carried the kidnappings out.

        Again, they admit that their agenda is to weaken Hamas and drive a wedge between Hamas and the PA, so wrong again. If they were looking for the kids, they would be focusing on intelligence and detective work, not terrorising Palestinians in the occupied territories.

        Unless you can prove that they’re deliberately trying to burden the lives of people who have nothing to do with the kidnapping and getting no investigative benefit in return, the charge of “collective punishment” is empty.

        Again, no need to prove it. We have Danon admitting that the agenda is to punish all Palestinians until the boys are handed over.

        The burden is on the accuser to prove its charge, not on Israel to prove that it isn’t.

        And the burden is on the accuser to prove its charge, that Hamas took the boys. We already have Danon proving that Israel is inflicting collective punishment. Israel has always done so. Mordecai Gur(Israeli politician and the 10th Chief of Staff of the IDF) told Ze’ev Shiff (Israeli journalist and military correspondent for Ha’aretz) that:

        “The Israeli army has always struck civilian populations, purposely and consciously. The army has never distinguished civilian from military targets, but has purposely attacked civilian targets.”

        Abba Eban admitted that:

        “There was a rational prospect, ultimately fulfilled, that affected populations would exert pressure for the cessation of hostilities, satisfying Israel’s goals.”

        In other words, Israel admits it has always inflicted collective punishment on the Palestinians, as a matter of policy, so pressure the Palestinians to pressure their leaders to bend to Israel’s demands.

        But one has to ask why you are so interested in a conflict that affects 1/1000 of the world’s population yet have very little concern over situations involving so many more people.

        And similarly, one has to as why you are so interested in a conflict that affects 1/1000 of the world’s population yet have very little concern over situations involving so many more people?

      • Speedy
        June 27, 2014, 5:15 pm

        If standards are double (meaning inconsistent) then they cannon be valid.

      • RoHa
        June 27, 2014, 7:22 pm

        Exactly.
        If we condemn action A, we should also condemn equivalent action B.
        But even if we fail to condemn B, A is still wrong, and our condemnation is still valid.

    • Shmuel
      June 27, 2014, 9:14 am

      Netanyahu has named two Hamas members as the kidnappers

      No, he has released a couple of names that have been kicking around for about 10 days, with no evidence other than the fact that they’ve been “missing” for about the same time as the 3 Israelis. At the moment, they are no more than suspects, and the investigation still has a long way to go.

      Most of the people who have been arrested are involved with Hamas

      Although the connection between Hamas and the 3 missing Israelis has yet to be established.

      the 6 people who have been killed attacked Israeli troops

      Interesting theory. Not even the IDF has made such a claim (e.g. in the cases of 14-year-old Mohammed Dudin, or the 36-year-old, mentally-unstable Ahmad Khalid). Can you provide the details of these “attacks” for all 6, or do you have your own “double standard”?

    • Walid
      June 27, 2014, 9:20 am

      “you can’t elect a government that runs on a platform of waging jihad against the Jewish people”

      Hamas ran and won on providing a more honest government than the corrupt Fatah. Now that elections are again coming up, Israel is destroying as much as it can of Hamas to give a better chance to Fatah of winning this time. The disappearance of the 3 kids is starting to look like just another in Israel’s long line of gimmicks.

    • Woody Tanaka
      June 27, 2014, 9:28 am

      “And what kind of “proof” are you looking for exactly? Netanyahu has named two Hamas members as the kidnappers”

      Big deal. He is a known liar and anti-Arab bigot. The fact that he named two names does not prove that they had anything to do with the disappearance of these males.

      if he had any proof that they were involved, then he should either presented or shut his face.

      ” you can’t elect a government that runs on a platform of waging jihad against the Jewish people, and then complain when Israel reacts to a cowardly act of terrorism against its children.”

      you got it all backwards. The Zionists of the world have declared war on the Palestinians, and continue to wage the most brutal and heartless type of war against the Palestinians and their children. The Zionists are crazy to expect that they will not reap what they have sown.

      If you do not wish you and your children to be attacked. in retaliation, then stop attacking Palestinians and their children. If you can’t, then you should shut your face.

    • eljay
      June 27, 2014, 9:29 am

      >> And what kind of “proof” are you looking for exactly? Netanyahu has named two Hamas members as the kidnappers

      So if King Bibi named two women as witches, would that also constitute proof? Or would it be reasonable to ask for more-concrete proof?

      >> The Palestinians can’t have it both ways — you can’t elect a government that runs on a platform of waging jihad against the Jewish people, and then complain when Israel reacts to a cowardly act of terrorism against its children.

      Israelis can’t have it both ways either: They can’t elect government after government that commits acts of aggression, oppression, theft, colonization, destruction, torture and murder against Palestinians and then complain when Palestinians react to a cowardly act of terrorism against their children.

      >> But the Israelis are Jews …

      No, they’re Israelis. Some are Jews, some aren’t.

      (The fact that you say “Israel = Jews” indicates that you are a Palestinian or a Palestinian supporter.)

      >> … so well, different standard for them.

      As far as international law is concerned, the standard is the same.

      But Israel claims to be the best nation in the region, and a “moral beacon” to the world. It has set a very high standard for itself…a standard it consistently fails to live up to.

    • talknic
      June 27, 2014, 2:51 pm

      @ DoubleStandard “The author of this post seems almost happy that the kids haven’t been found”

      Can you explain how you can make this accusation?

      “And what kind of “proof” are you looking for exactly? “

      Evidence… an accusation is not evidence

      “The Palestinians can’t have it both ways “

      You mean freedom and their own territory free of occupation and illegal dispossession by Israel?

      ” you can’t elect a government that runs on a platform of waging jihad against the Jewish people”

      Source of this alleged ‘platform’ please….. thx….I’ll wait….

      “and then complain when Israel reacts to a cowardly act of terrorism against its children.”

      There’s no evidence of any terrorism towards the three. They might be hidden away in an illegal settlement after having stolen a car and torched it

      “Most of the people who have been arrested are involved with Hamas”

      Uh? Is that illegal in the occupied territories under Palestinian law?

      “and the 6 people who have been killed attacked Israeli troops”

      Illegal Israeli settlers attack Israeli troops, they don’t get killed… Double standard your name or your philosophy?

      “You guys can watch a video on Youtube of Palestinians throwing Molotov cocktails at Israeli search parties”

      A) They’re allowed retaliation and violent resistance against the military of their occupiers under the rules of occupation. B) What videos? C ) You make a lot of accusations but show no ‘proof’!

      “Israel is not reacting any more severely than any other country would in its position.”

      Name one who reacts this way to suspected kidnapping!!

      “But the Israelis are Jews so well, different standard for them”

      If you say so, however Israelis are also non-Jews.

      • Shingo
        June 27, 2014, 7:18 pm

        Israel is not reacting any more severely than any other country would in its position

        Rubbish. No other country in the world that is illegally occupying someone else’s land, building illegal settlements, crushing the necks of those they are occupying, killing Palestinians at will, then unleashing collective punishment is response to the disappearance of 3 illegal settlers trespassing.

    • Shingo
      June 27, 2014, 10:56 pm

      Netanyahu has named two Hamas members as the kidnappers

      Netenyahu is a recognized liar. He lied about Iraq WMD in 2002:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpQdg4D78Jc

      And both Obama and Sarkozy were caught in a conversation agreeing that Bibbi is a liar.

  28. just
    June 27, 2014, 9:05 am

    Oh well, the fires are the fault of ‘negligent’ hikers, NOT “Arab” arsonists as was broadcasted…no mention of an apology. What a surprise/not. I guess the hikers were Israeli since no “Arab” was mentioned……..

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/jerusalem-fire-said-to-be-caused-by-negligence/

    Who is it that is notorious for settling fires to Palestinian lands?

  29. piotr
    June 27, 2014, 12:26 pm

    “Israel is not reacting any more severely than any other country would in its position.”

    For example, when Greenlanders riot against Danish Royal Forces (or whatever the name of Danish colonial troops is), the Danes respond with live ammunition. Somehow, I doubt it. Could you give a link to support that assertion? If possible, to an OECD country other than Turkey, and if not, a country that is not under sanctions by US government and has GNP per person higher than China.

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