Israeli forces shell UN school where displaced Palestinians gathered, killing at least 9

Israel/Palestine
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The scene after Israel bombed an UNRWA school in 2009. (Photo: Iyad El-Baba/UNRWA/Electronic Intifada)

The scene after Israel bombed an UNRWA school in 2009. (Photo: Iyad El-Baba/UNRWA/Electronic Intifada)

The Israeli military shelled a United Nations Relief Works and Agency (UNRWA) school today, killing and injuring some of the Palestinians who had gathered there after fleeing their homes following Israeli messages to do so. CNN‘s Ben Wedeman, who is reporting from Gaza, said that medical sources told him 30 people were killed. Other reports put the death toll lower; the Associated Press reports that at least seven were killed, while Agence France Press reports nine dead.

UNRWA spokesman Chris Gunness has confirmed that there are “multiple dead and injured at designated UNRWA shelter in Beit Hanoun.” He said on Twitter that the Israeli military had been given “precise co-ordinates of the UNRWA shelter in Beit Hanoun.”

The first reports came in on Twitter from Palestinians in Gaza, and were then confirmed by CNN’s Ben Wedeman, who is reporting from the coastal strip.

As Israel’s assault on Gaza intensified last week, they dropped leaflets in Palestinian neighborhoods urging them to flee ahead of heavy bombardment. Tens of thousands of people heeded the call, with UNRWA sheltering 140,000 people in 83 different schools.

UNRWA has been pulled into the conflict by both sides. On Tuesday, the agency for Palestinian refugees announced that they “discovered rockets hidden in a vacant school in the Gaza Strip” for the second time. The agency condemned “the group or groups responsible for this flagrant violation of the inviolability of its premises under international law.” Israel has also hit other UNRWA schools multiple times. The agency’s spokesman, Chris Gunness, reported that “UNRWA’s had 3 direct hits from Israeli fire on 2 schools in 3 days,” injuring five Palestinians in one of the incidents.

During Israel’s 2008-09 assault on Gaza, the military bombed UNRWA facilities multiple times, a war crime under international law.

128 Responses

  1. seafoid
    July 24, 2014, 10:01 am

    worth reading in full

    link to lrb.co.uk

    . “As the lawyer Noura Erakat has cogently argued, ‘Israel does not have the right to self-defence in international law against occupied Palestinian territory.’ Its argument that it no longer occupies the Gaza Strip has been dismissed by Lisa Hajjar of the University of California as a self-generated ‘licence to kill’”.

    BTW Israel has lost an awful lot of support in the UK over the last 2 weeks. Even the Tories are sickened.

    Heartbreaking.

    • Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 10:26 am

      seafoid, unfortunately zionitis is imbedded deep down in the American system. No amount of disinfectant, can rid the country of this curse. People in UK have access to non zio infected media, even their leaders in Parliament, are free to stand up and make searingly critical speeches against the brutal occupier. Free speech is considerably better over there, and people are not afraid to speak out.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 1:55 pm

        I would think, given who was in charge of the area at the time, and gave the Zionists ‘permission’ to start colonizing Palestine, and what happened after that that they ought to know Zionism pretty well by now.

      • John O
        July 24, 2014, 2:40 pm

        Despite (or perhaps because of) representing a London Parliamentary constituency with a substantial Jewish population, Margaret Thatcher was circumspect, to say the least, in her dealings with Israel. But then she was of a generation of politicians who knew what the then leaders of Israel had done to British soldiers in Palestine.

    • ckg
      July 24, 2014, 11:34 am

      George Bisharat, professor of law at the University of California Hastings College of the Law, penned this in the NYT yesterday:

      [D]espite its 2005 withdrawal of ground forces and settlers from Gaza, Israel still exercises effective control over the region by controlling its airspace, coast and territorial waters, land borders (with Egypt), electromagnetic fields, electricity and fuel supply. Accordingly, Israel remains an occupying power under international law, bound to protect the occupied civilian population. Israel can use force to defend itself, but no more than is necessary to quell disturbances. Hence this is not a war – rather, it is a top military power unleashing massive firepower against a penned and occupied Palestinian population.

      • NormanF
        July 24, 2014, 6:11 pm

        Hamas has to surrender.

        This is the way wars end. If it had any concern for the population, it would have ended all the shooting.

        Further violence is senseless. But no one apparently can talk sense into the leaders of Hamas.

      • just
        July 24, 2014, 6:56 pm

        NormanF, let me give you a hand here:

        Israel has to stop the genocide of Palestinians.

        This is the way wars end. If it had any concern for the population, it would have ended all the shooting.

        Further violence is senseless. But no one apparently can talk sense into the leaders of Israel.

        There, I fixed it for you. Go tell your leaders.

      • adele
        July 24, 2014, 7:26 pm

        NormanF,
        where is Israel’s concern for the almost 2 million people it keeps under lock and key isolated by land, sea and air? When you answer me that question then you will have the right to voice disapproval of Hamas’ liberation tactics.

      • Kay24
        July 24, 2014, 9:01 pm

        The side with the bigger guns, deadly banned weapons, and who inflicts more death and injuries must stop the massacre. Israel will never get rid of Hamas, they have tried in many ways, and many times, and it is always the civilians who are slaughtered by Israel. Israel does not want to address the real issue – the brutal occupation and blockade, that has been going on for decades.
        Israel cannot expect to keep people locked in from all sides in the world’s largest concentration camp, and be naive to think they will not want to get out, or demand their rights. It is up to the occupier to end this occupation.
        Stop blaming the victims. Seeing the brutality of the Israelis gives us no doubt had the situation been reversed, the zionists would have done more than protest and send rockets.

      • gracie fr
        July 25, 2014, 5:22 am

        Unbearable how the Jewish State manages to white wash its war crimes again and again…..
        On April 18, 1996, Israeli Armed Forces shelled a United Nations Interim Forces in Lebanon (UNIFIL) Compound in Qana, Lebanon killing 106 civilians and wounding hundreds of others. The shelling marked one of the bloodiest massacres in Lebanon’s modern history. Israeli and American pressures shelved a UN investigation, but legal actions are now being taken in an effort to redress this injustice.
        Israel claims that the shelling the U.N. compound was a mistake. ]Israeli officials also claim that they were targeting Hizbollah forces which had fired 6 Katyusha rockets from two separate targets—one 200 meters southwest of the compound and the other, 350 meters southeast of the compound. In its targeting of the Hizbollah forces, Israel claimed that “regrettably, a few rounds had overshot and hit the United Nations Compound.” However, according to UN special envoys findings, “the pattern of impacts is inconsistent with a normal overshooting of the declared target by a few rounds.” Moreover, the report found that “the distribution of point impact detonations and air bursts makes it improbable that impact fuses and proximity fuses were employed in random order, as stated by Israeli forces.”
        The strongest evidence refuting Israel’s claim that shelling the UN compound was a mistake is video footage revealing that a remotely piloted vehicle (RPV) hovered above the compound before, during, and after the shelling. The RPV, equipped with real-time data link capability, enabled the Israeli forces to observe the UN compound as well as the presence of approximately 800 civilians taking shelter there.

    • concernedhuman
      July 24, 2014, 12:05 pm

      British foreign minister says Hamas must agree to cease-fire without conditions

      link to jpost.com

      Lost support in UK? HUH !
      Palestinians have no support not even in arab world

      • Kay24
        July 24, 2014, 12:56 pm

        It’s always the demands and condition set by Israel and it’s meed followers in the Western world.

        How dare those occupied people ask for their freedom!

  2. just
    July 24, 2014, 10:02 am

    So Ayman was right…

    Will the US finally join the civilized world and condemn Israel’s genocide/massacre/
    terrorism?

    Traumatized people ‘evacuate’ per Israel’s directive, they huddle in place and Israel murders them.

    What is that called Mr. Kerry & Mr. Obama?

    (don’t even try to bring up ‘fog of war’ or ‘missiles in schools’– it’s all proven bs!)

  3. Justpassingby
    July 24, 2014, 10:28 am

    This is a crime against humanity.

    Where is the snake Abbas that works with Israel!?

  4. Justpassingby
    July 24, 2014, 10:30 am

    Do you like that ban ki moon you phoney bastard!?

  5. iResistDe4iAm
    July 24, 2014, 10:36 am

    This is a repeat of the Samouni family massacre from 2009.

    In 2009, 29 members of the Samouni family were obliterated when Israeli soldiers ordered 100 people into one house and then bombed it.
    link to haaretz.com

    No doubt, the Israeli commander who ordered this war crime will be PROMOTED.

    In 2012, the Israeli commander who ordered the airstrike on the Samouni house got promoted to the rank of brigadier-general. Israel decided to investigate the case only after it was reported in the Goldstone Report.
    link to jpost.com

  6. kalithea
    July 24, 2014, 10:41 am

    I was writing the following comment when this breaking news just came in. Karl Penhaul says there are multiple killed and injured; at least 12 to 15 killed; 800 injured. This U.N. shelter was a school! There is blood everywhere on the desks the floor, everywhere! This is a war crime; it’s a grotesque criminal act.

    Here’s the comment I was writing:

    The death toll in Gaza is over 700 hundred and rising fast.

    Everyone must read this and NEVER FORGET and we must fight for a War Crimes Tribunal against Israel. We cannot allow this genocidal massacre to be swept aside like Cast Lead was. Enough!

    link to dissidentvoice.org

    Israel wants a Gaza of cripples: let them die or better still become infirm and a burden on this already crippled society.

    Gaza is a city full of children and this is a thorn in the side of Zionism. Gaza is therefore a city of children abused by Zionist oppression and deprivation. Zionism has punished these children collectively and stripped them of the joys of childhood.

    What can justify one child being murdered every hour in Gaza and countless others maimed? Is Zionism that precious to the Jewish community? Is this the legacy Jews want?

    Israel wants a crippled and a childless Gaza.

    Here’s what will bring down Zionism maybe before a demographic turn: the Palestinians have leagues more courage than Zionists and their threshold for pain is off the charts compared to Zionists. Palestinians have endured hell for their land; they’ve earned their right to have it returned and to return to that land, but it was their land when Zionists came to force them out. That’s the grave injustice of it all! Israel must face a war crimes tribunal!

    (It’s ironic that Israel has committed this egregious war crime at this school which is symbolic of hope for the future for Gaza’s children.)

    • Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 11:46 am

      Now predictably the nazionists, or nazios (perfect word) will cast blame on the victims. The Palestinians have been blamed for their own deaths, their suffering, the blockade, the occupation, the kids who are killed when playing soccer, or the kid who was brutally burned to death were also blamed for their gruesome deaths, so we should expect the terrorists from Tel Aviv to try and blame everyone else for this brutal act. I just watched the spokesperson for the IDF blame the UN for not moving these poor refugees out of that area, like they were asked to… so it begins.
      It would have been true journalism if Blitzer asked him where they were supposed to go, and if going there would have been safer. Notice the terrorists from TA keep their victims imprisoned and penned in, and blame them for not going elsewhere to avoid the pounding? Where the hell are they expected to go, when their borders are locked? Our journalists are real wimps when it comes to Israel.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 5:23 pm

        “Now predictably the nazionists, or nazios (perfect word) will cast blame on the victims.”

        They will start right here in this thread, a couple of comments down.

  7. Boomer
    July 24, 2014, 10:44 am

    Thanks for the sad news; this is the first I’ve heard about it. The internet is my main source of news, with BBC and PBS second. I don’t have cable, but watch CBS and NBC as indicators of MSM coverage, as well as for whatever news they show. A couple of days ago I made a favorable comment about their coverage, but since then it seems to me that they have moved on: less about Gaza, more about Israel, and less about either of them in favor of other topics. I hope that I’m wrong. (From the beginning of the current conflict, I’ve heard little about it on NPR, but I don’t hear all of their coverage, so I can’t judge.)

  8. geofgray
    July 24, 2014, 10:45 am

    headline in ny times at 10 am: Hamas Uses Civilian Shields, Israel Says, Fueling Debate

    headline in ny times at 10:30: Airstrike Hits UN School Sheltering Gaza Civilians

    propaganda trumped by reality. it seems the times is working hard to cover up war crimes with evergreen “news.” usually the propaganda isn’t so blatant.

  9. seafoid
    July 24, 2014, 10:54 am

    I wonder what it would take for Rick Jacobs to come off the fence and condemn Israel . Would they have to start eating Palestinian babies ?

    • Marnie
      July 24, 2014, 11:04 am

      Where in the world is justice hiding?

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 1:59 pm

        “Where in the world is justice hiding?”

        Ah, so that’s where “Hophmi” is. I guess he got called in for guard duty. Justice isn’t hiding, it’s been kidnapped.

        Anyway, I was sure Hophmi would be here with any number of perfectly believable reasons for the shelling, or at least tell us it was a “mistake”.

      • Jackdaw
        July 24, 2014, 3:08 pm

        @Mooser

        According to NYT, “A series of explosions at a school that was sheltering hundreds of Palestinians who had fled their homes also wounded many others. The cause was not immediately clear. ”

        How does Alex jump to the conclusion that it was Israeli shelling, and not an errant Hamas rocket that did the damage?

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 5:17 pm

        I don’t think there’s too much problem telling the difference. And if he is wrong, I’m sure he will issue a correction.
        Not that I want to in any way denigrate Hophmi’s extraordinary talent for mendacity, and his capacity making himself look an extremely unpleasant fool as he prevaricates, equivocates and kvetches, but I think I can say if you, Jackdaw, hang around, we won’t miss him.

      • Shingo
        July 24, 2014, 6:04 pm

        How does Alex jump to the conclusion that it was Israeli shelling, and not an errant Hamas rocket that did the damage?

        1. UN compounds are one of Israel’s favorite targets
        2. The Israelis have hit multiple UN compounds already
        3. The UN says so
        4. Even you know it was Israel

      • Cliff
        July 24, 2014, 9:35 pm

        @ZioNazi

        Aren’t you butchers accusing Hamas of operating from these hospitals? How could they bomb it if they’re operating from them too?

    • Sumud
      July 24, 2014, 12:13 pm

      Did you see the repugnant comment made by the French mayor?

      • marc b.
        July 24, 2014, 1:07 pm

        I didn’t see it, but French officialdom is as nauseating a collective of sycophants as there is. (this coming from a Francophile.) O Globo reported last evening that Brazil had recalled its ambassador from Tel Aviv for ‘consultation’ over the slaughter. there was some of the usual pablum about Israel having the right to defend itself, etc., but actions speak louder than words.

      • marc b.
        July 24, 2014, 1:18 pm

        sumud, looks as if that tweet was spurious.

        link to lepoint.fr

        L’élu était injoignable mercredi dans la soirée, mais la première adjointe au maire de Montreuil-Juigné, Nathalie Lemaire, a, elle aussi, affirmé à l’AFP que M. Renaud “n’a jamais eu de compte Twitter”. “Il ne va jamais sur Internet”, a ajouté la première adjointe. Un examen des tweets du compte laisse planer le doute, alternant des échos du conseil municipal avec des propos outranciers et truffés de fautes d’orthographe. Selon Nathalie Lemaire, l’élu n’a pas d’ennemi connu. Mais l’usurpateur a même “continué à tweeter” sous le nom de Jacques Renaud pendant que ce dernier “était à la gendarmerie pour porter plainte”. “Et il a continué à tenir des propos inadmissibles”, a déploré Nathalie Lemaire, selon laquelle toute l’équipe municipale est “atterrée” et “solidaire de M. Renaud”.

        no known enemies? so it was a friend who tweeted on Renaud’s behalf?

  10. french_jew
    July 24, 2014, 11:10 am

    Absolutely horrifying.

  11. kalithea
    July 24, 2014, 11:12 am

    The Hasbara spin machinery has already been put in motion regarding this incident. The lies being cranked out already are beyond the pale.

  12. American
    July 24, 2014, 11:15 am

    Told you so……..no where in Gaza is safe for Gazans…..nothing is below the little satans of israel.

    American July 20, 2014 at 11:22 am

    ”The UN said that more than 60,000 people had sought sanctuary in 49 shelters it was providing in Gaza, and it expected the numbers to rise.”>>>>>

    Not sure UN shelters are any sanctuary. Israel has bombed UN buildings before

    • Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 9:03 pm

      It has indeed, even in Lebanon. They have this sly habit of bombing civilians structures and when confronted about it, say it was a little mistakes. What morons.

  13. Alx
    July 24, 2014, 11:16 am

    Telling Palestinians to leave their homes so they can be herded into specific areas in order to kill then more efficiently?

    The abused has become the abuser.

    • Shingo
      July 24, 2014, 6:07 pm

      Yes it appears that this is the genocidal route Israel are taking. Heard civilians into a compound so you can kill more of turn with fewer bombs.

      It makes sense seeing as you can need houses

  14. concernedhuman
    July 24, 2014, 11:31 am

    UNRWA school hit?
    Because UNHRC voted for a international inquiry in to war crimes?
    Does israel care ?
    Israel has full support from US and EU, even if israel kills every living being in gaza, israel will not and will never be called for war crimes.

    Israel has turned every thing in its favor with “cartoons” .
    The silence of arab world is appalling !

  15. Walid
    July 24, 2014, 11:34 am

    17 dead and over 100 injured at the UNRWA school where people had taken refuge.

    In today’s massacre, Israel scored over 70 dead.

    Today’s main dish: Flechette bombs that spray darts over a wide area to hit the most in concentrations of people. Should make Mahane very proud. A very sad sight to see on TV all the injured and dead people being brought to the hospital. The Saudi news channel “al-Arabia” is interviewing Syrian soaps stars on how they are doing their filming during the current insurrection.

    • Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 11:50 am

      And the good ole USA voted a resounding NO at the UN.

      The massacre will continue, the lies will be spewed, and the nazios will get away with their brutality yet again. Shouldn’t the UN at least make their feeble protests about this?

    • seafoid
      July 24, 2014, 1:00 pm

      Mahane is probably sad they didn’t kill more children in self defence.

      • eljay
        July 24, 2014, 1:09 pm

        >> Walid: Today’s main dish: Flechette bombs that spray darts over a wide area to hit the most in concentrations of people. Should make Mahane very proud.

        When his government and army “do all efforts”, the Potato-man is a proud Israeli. He must be bursting at the seams with pride right now.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 2:03 pm

        “Mahane is probably sad they didn’t kill more children in self defence.”

        You shouldn’t put words in his mouth. I’m sure Mehane is more than capable of coming here and telling us this all by himself.
        Of course, maybe the Age of Miracles isn’t over, and Mehane has seen the light, and is ready to make the bravest admission of his life: ‘It must have been a mistake’!

      • eljay
        July 24, 2014, 2:40 pm

        >> MY1: I want you to delete this comment by seafoid, if not I will do all legal efforts to close this satanic, terror supporter web site.

        Not good enough, Potato-man. You need to “do all efforts” – not just legal efforts – so that your country can be as proud of you as you are of it.

      • lysias
        July 24, 2014, 2:58 pm

        I want you to delete this comment by seafoid, if not I will do all legal efforts to close this satanic, terror supporter web site.

        Satanic? Satanic?!!! You have the nerve to call this site — rather than the actions of Israel (wnich you defend)– “Satanic”?

        If it’s Satanic to support terror, what does that make people who support Israel’s actions?

      • seafoid
        July 24, 2014, 3:07 pm

        Rabbi Menachem Creditor Editor, ‘Peace in Our Cities: Rabbis Against Gun Violence’

        link to huffingtonpost.com

      • MahaneYehude1
        July 24, 2014, 3:21 pm

        @lysias:

        I was polite and I used delicate language.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 5:57 pm

        “I was polite and I used delicate language.”

        Like “I want you to delete this comment by seafoid, if not I will do all legal efforts to close this satanic, terror supporter web site.” or threatening to sue? That kind of “delicate language”

        Makes me wonder what everyday disagreements are like where you live, Mehane: “One of the eggs in this carton is cracked, that grocer must be a Satanic terror-supporter” Grocer: ” Mehane, it happens, a Hamas rocket hit the carton, I’ll give you another egg” Mehane: “Ill make every effort close this store, and I sue you in Israeli court!” Grocer: “Oy Gottenyu Mehane, we’re in Brooklyn!” Mehane: “Anti-Zionist!”

      • Shingo
        July 24, 2014, 6:18 pm

        Did you just admit to bring a Satanist MY1? If this is Satanic blog, what other real could there be for your participation for the past year?

      • lysias
        July 24, 2014, 3:32 pm

        I ought to express this lawyer’s opinion, in case Mahane’s threat disturbs anyone at this site, that, if he were to bring a legal action for accusations against him that he considers false, he wouldn’t have a leg to stand on, and the suit would be dismissed for failure to state a claim, because — as I understand it — Mahane has not revealed his real identity and any accusations are therefore only against a screen name.

      • lysias
        July 24, 2014, 4:46 pm

        If it’s Satanic to support terror, what does that make people who support Israel’s actions?

        You didn’t answer my question.

      • kalithea
        July 24, 2014, 3:01 pm

        I will do all legal efforts to close this satanic, terror supporter web site.

        Gee, tell us what you really think…not. If you’re capable of this hateful comment then who knows what other thoughts lurk inside.

        As far as I’m concerned you contribute zero but annoying, distracting, hasbara bull and I wonder what you’re still doing here; if that’s how you view this site.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 4:50 pm

        “As far as I’m concerned you contribute zero but annoying, distracting, hasbara bull and I wonder what you’re still doing here;”

        I’ve become pretty much convinced they do it on purpose. Anything they can do to convince people Zionists aren’t fit, or able to live with others, they will do or say. They seem intent on impressing just how little they have in common with the rest of humanity, as if that will convince people they need a special place where they can be their bad selves.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 4:35 pm

        “I want you to delete this comment by seafoid, if not I will do all legal efforts to close this satanic, terror supporter web site.”

        Too late, Mehane, too late! See, on another thread, Yonah Freedman looked inside of Phil Weiss’s head, and saw that he had “No inherent sense of belonging” and “two left feet, which he leaves inside and outside the camp” (something like that) And certainly, you, and Yonah, and Hophmi, and the rest have had no trouble seeing inside my head and telling everybody what you found there.
        So, looking in your head, and seeing what your thoughts are, is already an approved Zionist practice. You’re a little late complaining about it now, fella. Look, if you didn’t want people to know about that thought, you shouldna’ thunk it!

      • Chu
        July 24, 2014, 4:38 pm

        no need to steal his thunder, seafoid. Let him do all the explaining.

      • seafoid
        July 24, 2014, 5:17 pm

        did you read the link? What a mess.
        He’s done apologizing for Israel.

        In a similar vein, S Daniel Abraham says Israel vs Gaza is a war between good and evil.
        link to haaretz.com

        I am trying to figure out how that makes Naftali Bennett an angel.
        But my head won’t compute.

      • Kay24
        July 24, 2014, 9:06 pm

        Yeah he will have a hard time though explaining how those innocent babies they keep killing can be called evil.

        Evil is the side that inflicts more casualties, injuries, and causes more destruction. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to fathom it out.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 5:11 pm

        “I will consider the admins and editors of this site as supporters of the libel and I will sue them when they come to Israel.”

        What happened to closing the “satanic” “terrorist” website? Why are you backing down? That isn’t the kind of can-do spirit which got the Nakba accomplished! I mean, you being “proud of my country” and all.

      • seafoid
        July 24, 2014, 5:13 pm

        Mooser

        shut up and light those Beelzebub candles godammit

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 5:31 pm

        “shut up and light those Beelzebub candles godammit”

        Me? I don’t know what to do at a Satanic Mass! And I’m afraid of goats, and virgins.
        I barely knew my Haftorah, and now I’ve got to conduct a Satanic Mass?

      • seafoid
        July 24, 2014, 5:33 pm

        Can you get Yonah to give you a hand if you forget the liturgy ?
        We’ll welcome the Dersh as chief ambassador of his Lordship Satan – don’t tell anyone.

      • Bumblebye
        July 24, 2014, 6:52 pm

        Surely you just need to conduct the ceremony that follows the awarding of the Grand Order of the Boot? Y’know, the old spit n’ polish thingy.

    • MahaneYehude1
      July 24, 2014, 1:36 pm

      @Walid:

      Should make Mahane very proud.

      Walid, look, I respect your opinions although I don’t agree with most of them. What you are doing now is unfair and put me in a position that I don’t deserve. I appreciate if you withdraw from this statement.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 2:05 pm

        “What you are doing now is unfair and put me in a position that I don’t deserve.”

        Huh? “A position you don’t deserve”? Let’s just say that anybody reading this can click on your name, look at your archive, and decide what you “deserve”.

        Wanna tell us what the Gazan’s “deserve” Mehane?

      • seafoid
        July 24, 2014, 3:09 pm

        They don’t deserve neighbours like Spud

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 4:40 pm

        “They don’t deserve neighbours like Spud”

        And that, my friends, is how you mash a potato!

      • seafoid
        July 24, 2014, 4:46 pm

        “And that, my friends, is how you mash a potato!”

        I wouldn’t use it in my latkes .

      • MahaneYehude1
        July 24, 2014, 3:43 pm

        @lysias;

        I ought to express this lawyer’s opinion, in case Mahane’s threat disturbs anyone at this site…

        I participate in this site for a year and, although I am a Zionist and support my country, I never, never went to ad hominem and never attack personally. If you are an honest man, you should not agree ad hominem against me, although I am not under my real name like many here. sefoid comment saying I want more kids will be killed is a libel. I am a man of peace and want to live with peace with my neighbors, not to kill their kids. I please ask you to ask the editor to delete the ugly comment seafoid wrote against me. I do thank you in advance.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 4:45 pm

        “I participate in this site for a year and, although I am a Zionist and support my country, I never, never went to ad hominem and never attack personally.”

        For those who may be new, you can quickly access any commenter’s archive simply by clicking their name above a comment. The comments are in chronological order, and it is often instructive to see comments near the beginning of a commenter’s career.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 4:52 pm

        “I wouldn’t use it in my latkes .”

        There is that, of course.

      • Walid
        July 24, 2014, 4:14 pm

        Mahane, you put yourself in that position when you declared your pride in Israel in the middle of a discussion about the Israeli raids on WB homes; Arab countries too are known to have done some nasty things but you won’t hear me going around bragging that I’m proud of them.

        “MahaneYehude1 July 1, 2014 at 1:26 pm with 24 replies
        @Amigo:

        Yes, Sir!!! In this hard day I proud to be Israeli. I proud that my government and my army did all efforts to bring their sons back home (unfortunately, this time, the bodies), I proud that my government cared even one soldier captured in Gaza for years, I proud my government did all efforts to bring back home bodies of three soldiers, one of them Muslim, from Lebanon back home, I proud my government put billions of dollars building shelters and develops equipments to protect its citizen, I proud in an open and democratic society, I proud, Amigo, I proud…

        I love you Israel, I love you IDF, I love you the people of Israel.

        Regards, my friend.”

      • MahaneYehude1
        July 24, 2014, 4:21 pm

        @Walid:

        Thanks for copying my comment, since it is still relevant. Declaring that I am proud of Israel (and I still), doesn’t mean that I am happy that kids were killed. I sure and I hope that many here that support Hamas don’t happy that Israeli are killed. Now, read again my comment and see there is nothing there that I have to apologize or ashamed.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 4:42 pm

        “Now, read again my comment and see there is nothing there that I have to apologize or ashamed.”

        Here we go with the Russified syntax again. All of a sudden there’s a Faberge egg in his mouth, and he can’t talk.

      • lysias
        July 24, 2014, 4:55 pm

        Again with the unidiomatic English.

      • eljay
        July 24, 2014, 4:58 pm

        >> MY1: Declaring that I am proud of Israel (and I still), doesn’t mean that I am happy that kids were killed.

        You may not be happy that kids were killed, but you’re proud that your government and army killed them (“did all efforts”) in the course of its investigation of those kidnappings.

      • amigo
        July 24, 2014, 7:23 pm

        So mehane, if I declared my undying admiration for the gestapo would that be ok.

        Would it be possible for me to disassociate my admiration for them and their crimes.

        Just asking .

      • Annie Robbins
        July 24, 2014, 7:56 pm

        he’s gone amigo.

      • just
        July 24, 2014, 8:09 pm

        What?

        Did the IOF call him up since some reservists are saying no?

  16. Justpassingby
    July 24, 2014, 11:37 am

    Israel looks like a terror cult.

    • Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 1:01 pm

      They are terrorists. They are terrorizing powerless civilians, sending deadly weapons into their homes, schools (so much for Bibi whimpering that Hamas wants to use tunnels to attack their kindergartens) hospitals, even using banned weapons.

      This is worse than Hamas – the numbers and deadly weapons used, the incursion into an occupied territory all point out to that.
      The US is supporting and aiding, terrorists.

    • MahaneYehude1
      July 24, 2014, 4:50 pm

      Here we go with the Russified syntax again. All of a sudden there’s a Faberge egg in his mouth, and he can’t talk.

      Maybe you don’t care but when you spamming the thread with so many comments, you only divert the topic to Mahane’s topic. So, please stop with your endless comments.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 5:43 pm

        . “So, please stop with your endless comments.”

        Jeez, Mehane, the site won’t open much longer, Phil and the staff will be dragged off to an Israeli court, so I’d better comment while I can. Besides, the Devil makes me do it. Can’t fight Satan.

        Oh, sorry Mehane. I thought about it for a bit, than I realised, of course, somebody who says the site is “satanic” “terrorist” and you will “close it” and “sue the staff and admin”, isn’t looking for any kind of reaction. Why, I don’t know what made me react to such matter-of-fact, sensible every-day, common-sense comments. I guess I’m just a hothead.

      • amigo
        July 24, 2014, 7:18 pm

        Mooser, you have to admire him for his staying power.

        I just wish he had a whole lot less of it.

      • Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 9:44 pm

        amigo, he can have all the staying power in the world, but you can’t stay a millisecond after the lady pushes the ‘ban’ button. And she has to be pushed, hard, before she will push it.
        But let’s take heart, as unseemly as this episode may have seemed. We’ve all witnessed something quite novel here today, and it gives me hope. A settler has been removed!

  17. German Lefty
    July 24, 2014, 11:51 am

    RT: “Breaking the Set” hosted by Abby Martin
    Roots of Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: Who is Instigating Who? | Interview with Alison Weir
    link to youtube.com
    (particularly 7:50 to 10:15)

  18. concernedhuman
    July 24, 2014, 11:54 am

    Meanwhile, UN humanitarian chief Valerie Amos has expressed deep concern about the mounting civilian casualties in Gaza.

    She warned that it was “almost impossible” for Palestinians to shelter from Israeli airstrikes.

    Almost 730 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza in 17 days of conflict between Israel and Hamas.

    Israel says at least 32 of its soldiers have died along with three civilians killed in rocket attacks out of Gaza.

    “The reality in Gaza is, it doesn’t matter how hard Israel tries to minimise harm, this is an extremely overcrowded stretch of land,” Ms Amos told BBC radio.

    “Forty-four percent of that land has been declared a no-go zone by the Israeli army so there aren’t that many places for people to go.”

    She described “people crowded into a sliver of land, almost impossible for them to move”.

    link to rte.ie

    • Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 1:04 pm

      This is planned, deliberate, slaughter of civilians, and it comes from pure hatred.
      Greed for resources, and the effort to wipe them off the map.
      This is what the nazios are doing, and the world does nothing.

      • seafoid
        July 24, 2014, 4:03 pm

        link to twitter.com

        “Why do so many Zionists deny the truth of what Israel is doing to Palestinians? Because even they recognize the truth is unbearable.”

        REAL HEADLINE IN HAARETZ: “Owl injured in mortar attack on Israel picking up” link to haaretz.com

        Israeli propagandists “puking out” lies about hospitals hiding weapons, says Dr Mads. Gilbert link to bit.ly

  19. ckg
    July 24, 2014, 11:57 am

    Sad to report that the yahoo comment crowd at news.yahoo.com is cheering this. Most ‘liked’ comment: “Outstanding shot!”

    It’s disgusting.

    • just
      July 24, 2014, 12:00 pm

      Well, looks like the hasbara/Zionist brigade has found a nest.

      It’s why I stay far, far away.

    • Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 1:05 pm

      They are desperate, and know they are losing the PR war.

      Nothing they say, or however much they like comments, they look like savages to the rest of the world.

  20. Sycamores
    July 24, 2014, 12:12 pm

    here we go guess who spreading rumors

    kudos to Tweeter Jalal

    in 40mins, @LTCPeterLerner jumps b/w claims.Hamas responsible. then–>okay we might be responsible.but we warned them pic.twitter.com/D0hgLzsLzf— Jalal (@JalalAK_jojo) July 24, 2014

    lerner tweets

    #IDF sensors have confirmed that several rockets launched from #Gaza have landed this afternoon in Bet Hanun.— Peter Lerner (@LTCPeterLerner) July 24, 2014

    • seafoid
      July 24, 2014, 1:05 pm

      Very interesting replies to Peter Spindoctor

      link to twitter.com
      “Dave Smith ‏@Knight3Black · 2h
      @LTCPeterLerner Praying for any harmed or worse. #Bibi, No Mercy; Kill All of #Hamas. #UnitedWithIsrael

      Ahmed Ihmeid ‏@ahmed_ihmeid · 2h
      @LTCPeterLerner stop fabricating and telling lies. You kill children and women. You weak and cowards.

      Dani Goldring ‏@GoldringD · 2h
      @LTCPeterLerner Hamas just probably killed Palestinians. World opinion and UN will surely lay that body count on Israel.

      kenmc ‏@United_Gaza · 2h

      @LTCPeterLerner fight on the ground you pussy,cowards pic.twitter.com/LPtJrkLPtU

      AdilRajaa ‏@AdilRajaa1 · 2h
      @LTCPeterLerner The IDF is the biggest coward army in the world. Your ground troops are useless. We know the real number.

      Chris Jordan ‏@Dubliner76 · 2h
      @LTCPeterLerner Israel the world experts on child slaughter. Shame on you!!

      AdilRajaa ‏@AdilRajaa1 · 2h
      @LTCPeterLerner We know the IDF is demoralized. Soldiers going AWOL, some refusing to go. The Emperor is wearing no clothes.

      AdilRajaa ‏@AdilRajaa1 · 2h
      @LTCPeterLerner The failure in Gaza will be exposed to the whole world. Your humiliation will be made public.”

      Twitter is so different to MSNBC . The bots have no advantage whatsoever.

      • Sycamores
        July 24, 2014, 1:37 pm

        Twitter is so different to MSNBC . The bots have no advantage whatsoever.

        absolutely

  21. HarryLaw
    July 24, 2014, 12:16 pm

    In resolution 1973, adopted on 17 March 2011, the Security Council demanded an immediate ceasefire in Libya, including an end to ongoing attacks against civilians, which it said might constitute “crimes against humanity.” When is the UNSC going to invoke ‘The right to protect in this case’ the West will not of course, hypocritical bastards.

  22. mmayer
    July 24, 2014, 12:20 pm

    And this is the “most moral army in the world” that takes care to protect civilian lives, as described in mainstream media. I believe that AGAIN, we have descended down the rabbit hole.

  23. dbroncos
    July 24, 2014, 12:26 pm

    Will Hezbollah be heard from? Do they have a red line?

    • lysias
      July 24, 2014, 12:48 pm

      The fact that their forces are committed in Syria (and, I think I’ve read recently, also in Iraq) may prevent them from risking an Israeli incursion into Lebanon.

      But they certainly have the missiles that would force a long-term shutdown of Ben Gurion Airport.

      • Shingo
        July 24, 2014, 6:46 pm

        But they certainly have the missiles that would force a long-term shutdown of Ben Gurion Airport.

        And Haifa refinery and the harbor

    • Walid
      July 24, 2014, 1:32 pm

      You should be hearing something in Nasrallah’s speech for the annual Yom al-Quds (Jerusalem Day) tomorrow as it’s the last Friday of Ramadan. He’s been holding back but I think his patience is about to snap; he talks about moral responsibilities all the time, especially towards Palestinians, so I don’t think he’ll be making a routine speech.

      • dbroncos
        July 24, 2014, 5:15 pm

        Thanks Walid

  24. lysias
    July 24, 2014, 12:51 pm

    Is there anything Israel could do that would make the U.S. stop protecting them at the UN and elsewhere?

    • Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 1:09 pm

      Nothing the terrorist state does will make the US stop aiding, protecting and arming them. They have spied on us, sold our weapons to China, bombed our battleship, interfered in our Presidential elections, manipulates our congress, and yet the
      love and devotion is unwavering.

    • Keith
      July 24, 2014, 7:13 pm

      LYSIAS- “Is there anything Israel could do that would make the U.S. stop protecting them at the UN and elsewhere?”

      Yes, challenge the US for control of some of the significant Middle East petro states. Have you ever wondered why with all of their military power they haven’t occupied at least one significant oil state, thereby freeing themselves from being dependent upon US support?

      • libra
        July 25, 2014, 5:31 pm

        Keith: Have you ever wondered why with all of their military power they haven’t occupied at least one significant oil state, thereby freeing themselves from being dependent upon US support?

        Keith, what enormous faith you posit in that ‘thereby’. You cruelly yolk this poor adverb into the back-breaking task of justifying an absurd concluding clause with an equally preposterous opening clause.

        That said, I’ve often wondered why some people still think it’s all about oil, thereby making themselves look very naive.

      • Keith
        July 25, 2014, 7:11 pm

        LIBRA- “That said, I’ve often wondered why some people still think it’s all about oil, thereby making themselves look very naive.”

        It is never “all about” any one thing, however, to deny the strategic importance of oil is to make yourself look worse than naïve, to put it charitably. It is only on Mondoweiss where I encounter this curious position. Out in the real world of geopolitics, this position is ludicrous. Here are a few recent examples. If I felt like wasting time I could inundate you, but why bother? You, and some of your cohorts will never change your views regardless of rather obvious reality. You do realize that the entire world is dependent up hydrocarbon fuels, don’t you?

        “Before the 2003 invasion, Iraq’s domestic oil industry was fully nationalized and closed to Western oil companies. A decade of war later, it is largely privatized and utterly dominated by foreign firms,” the CNN report concluded, indicating that, “From ExxonMobil and Chevron to BP and Shell, the West’s largest oil companies have set up shop in Iraq. So have a slew of American oil service companies, including Halliburton, the Texas-based firm Dick Cheney ran before becoming George W. Bush’s running mate in 2000.” (Nicola Nasser)
        link to counterpunch.org

        “The oppressive regime of Saddam Hussein was racked with insurgency, and when vicious repression failed, it delivered a portion of the vast oil revenues to the people in the form of government jobs, social services, and subsidized industries and agriculture. The oppressive United States occupation was racked with insurgency precisely because it tried to harness the country’s vast oil revenues to its imperial designs in the Middle East. The oppressive Maliki regime is now racked with insurgency, because the prime minister refused to share those same vast oil revenues with his Sunni constituents.
        It has always been about the oil, stupid! (Michael Schwartz)
        link to zcomm.org

        Iraq, Syria, Nigeria, South Sudan, Ukraine, the East and South China Seas: wherever you look, the world is aflame with new or intensifying conflicts. At first glance, these upheavals appear to be independent events, driven by their own unique and idiosyncratic circumstances. But look more closely and they share several key characteristics — notably, a witch’s brew of ethnic, religious, and national antagonisms that have been stirred to the boiling point by a fixation on energy….Make no mistake about it, these are twenty-first-century energy wars.” (Michael T. Klare)
        link to zcomm.org

  25. lysias
    July 24, 2014, 1:05 pm

    RT television just had a brief report on this attack in their headlines at the top of the hour. I think they said “at least 15 dead”, but it might have been “at least 50 dead”.

  26. NoMoreIsrael
    July 24, 2014, 1:31 pm

    Are the Israelis trying to compete with Boka Haram?

    Is that it?

  27. RobertB
    July 24, 2014, 1:40 pm

    With about 2% of US population…zionists have infiltrated just about every branch in the US government…secretary of state, secretary of defense, CIA director, chief of staff, US Supreme Court, Home Land Security, Federal Reserve…and much more! Their sayanim are everywhere…nothing passes by them when it involves their beloved Apartheid Israel & beloved zionist agendas… All paid for by the broke American taxpayers …day after day…non-stop!

    • Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 2:19 pm

      I have said this before, we are cursed with the zionists, in all three branches of government, media, think tanks, and all places influential for American policies, security, and foreign relations. AIPAC writes some of our foreign policy resolutions, what more than that? As long as they control us, we have become the host to a deadly parasite, that feeds off us.
      All it will take is for the US to threaten to cut off all aid and weapons to this terroristic nation, and stop pretending they are victims at the UN, and things will change very fast. They are not to be trusted, even our State department says so, but still we keep giving it unwavering support.

  28. amigo
    July 24, 2014, 2:13 pm

    Israel is claiming Palestinians did this.They offer two possibilities!!.

    1, It was deliberate.

    2, It was a rocket that went astray on it,s way to Israel.

    So , lets see.

    Palestinians have only managed to kill two Israelis with these rockets and now we are to believe that one of them managed to kill a dozen people and injure 100 more.

    Zionist Chutzpah.

    I am willing to bet that right now, Israeli forces are trying to figure out how to get to the UN school so they can “control ” the crime scene and refuse entry to any investigation personnel.

    Remember Jenin.

    Remember Cast Lead.

    • just
      July 24, 2014, 3:44 pm

      They make me puke…inveterate liars!

      This is deliberate massacre/genocide/terrorism.

    • Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 4:33 pm

      The UN apparently had requested TWICE that they transfer these poor people from the facility and the nazios had not given them that pass. If this turns out to be the massacre of the nazios, which chances are high, we should ask the US and those who defend this butcher, if that was okay. I have seen seen such a devious, evil, lying lot, who call themselves God’s chosen.

      • just
        July 24, 2014, 4:42 pm

        Farhan Haq (UN) on CNN.

        Not looking like Israel’s gonna get away with this– jmo.

  29. ckg
    July 24, 2014, 2:33 pm

    On the lighter side, Mike Luckovich and Matt Wuerker have good cartoons today.

    Also, the Onion.

  30. NoMoreIsrael
    July 24, 2014, 2:35 pm

    They are trying to inject doubt and the media plays along.

    I read on the Times site in comment after comment “The killing of huge numbers of civilians in Israeli bombing raids is tragic BUT……..”

    Who—other than a textbook psychotic who belongs in a nut house—puts a “BUT” into such a sentence?

  31. Kathleen
    July 24, 2014, 3:26 pm

    Israel throws leaflets telling Palestinians to leave and we all ask “go where?” They find an alleged safe haven in a UN school known to Israel and Israel’s targets it…killing more. “Hell of a pinpoint operation”

    • seafoid
      July 24, 2014, 4:12 pm

      link to electronicintifada.net

      Mads Gilbert: Can I just give you the light side? The light side is the resilience of the Palestinians. This is not a suffering people. This is not a begging people. They stand up. They stand tall.
      My love and my immense admiration for the staff and the volunteers in Shifa. And not to forget the paramedics — the sacrifice, the risk in every mission they do out in this dark city of death and destruction from the Israeli attack forces. My deepest admiration.
      Shifa hospital stands tall. People are tended to. The surgeons, the operating room scrub nurses, they work day and night. Nobody dies because nobody tried to rescue them. If they die it’s because the injury was too devastating for a body to sustain or if they came to us too late.

  32. eljay
    July 24, 2014, 5:27 pm

    >> MY1: I ask you to delete seafoid libel comment, if not, I will consider the admins and editors of this site as supporters of the libel and I will sue them when they come to Israel.

    It appears that the “I am a man of peace” Potato-man’s advice to the Palestinians – which, in essence, is “get over it and live in peace” – doesn’t apply when someone says something about him that makes him sad. :-(

  33. mikeo
    July 24, 2014, 5:29 pm

    ITV News Report

    I cried after watching this.

    Anybody who defends what Israel is doing has completely lost their humanity.

    • just
      July 24, 2014, 5:42 pm

      I watched it, and I understand your tears…

      I am quite sure that whoever defends this or does this has NO humanity to begin with.

      none.

  34. justicewillprevail
    July 24, 2014, 6:00 pm

    No evidence that Hamas uses human shields or fires from hospitals:

    link to newstatesman.com

    ” in response to Israel’s assertions that Hamas situates its military centres in civilian areas, some have pointed out that the IDF’s headquarters, the Kiriya, is in central Tel Aviv, surrounded by a hospital, blocks of flats, shopping centres and offices.”
    link to theguardian.com

    And yet these murdering b*st*rds keep telling us that Hamas are ‘forcing’ them to kill children because of the so-called human shield policy. Let’s be very clear – no-one is forcing a soldier safe in a bunker to pull the trigger which will knowingly kill children – the UN having given them the precise co-ordinates on that very day. There is zero evidence that rockets were fired from there. And now they are lying and trying to cover up the crime – same old callous dismissive arrogant killers.

    How heartless can people be? Apparently utterly heartless, inhuman lowlife scumbags.

  35. Shingo
    July 24, 2014, 6:55 pm

    And all he while the illiterate gimps south of the border who call themselves Egyptians remain silent and muted while their brothers are being slaughtered. What a pathetic society!!

    Not to worry, it’s all the fault of the Ottomans.

    • gamal
      July 24, 2014, 7:32 pm

      “And all he while the illiterate gimps south of the border who call themselves Egyptians remain silent and muted while their brothers are being slaughtered. What a pathetic society!!”

      I think with some justification we could agitate to include this in the Egyptian national anthem, penultimate verse, perhaps.

      Biladi hubbi wa fuadi you have my heart and love
      Misr awladik kiram Egypt your children are noble

      i prefer the Shingo version, Jesus’ Japanese grave is the better lyricist.

      But Egyptians are fighting and dying against their regime, not with any great success.
      I dont understand the reference to the Ottomans, its always been the Fatimids fault but the sacred Egyptian army is sealing in Gaza protecting Egyptians from Palestinians shoppers and terrified children, and fully participating in the crushing of Gaza, the Israelis don’t seem to understand that allying with Egypt almost ensures their own defeat, Egypt, we always lose, and usually drag any allies down with us.

      This latest blunder and the confederacy of dunces that Netanyahu and Sisi command exacerbate their incompetence with unbridled brutality and blood lust, it could very possibly lead to a major conflagration in Egypt, but as Rumi said “I keep in my heart an Egypt that doesn’t exist” and that was 800 years ago, nothing has really changed.

  36. DICKERSON3870
    July 26, 2014, 6:51 am

    RE: “#RedCross asked us to gather in the school yard to be conveyed from the school ..then we gathered and have been bombed!” ~ Eyewitness

    MY COMMENT: I see more and more of these instances that cause me to see similarities between ‘Operation Leading Edge’ and “Pricky Dick” Cheney’s infamous “canned hunts”* (a/k/a ‘captive hunts’).

    * FROM WIKIPEDIA (Canned hunt):

    [EXCERPTS] A canned hunt is a trophy hunt in which an animal is kept in a confined area, such as in a fenced-in area, increasing the likelihood of the hunter obtaining a kill. According to one dictionary, a canned hunt is a “hunt for animals that have been raised on game ranches until they are mature enough to be killed for trophy collections.”[1]

    Canned hunting has been banned or restricted in 20 states of the USA . . .
    . . . A number of groups object to the practice of canned hunting for reasons such as cruelty to animals or that it takes away what is known as “fair chase.”
    The Humane Society of the United States is an outspoken critic of canned hunting. In a statement, the HSUS called canned hunts “cruel and brutal activities,” in which the hunted animal has “absolutely no chance of escape.” It went on to say that animals have been “psychologically conditioned to behave as a target by life in captivity,” among other objections.
    [4]
    Some hunting groups, especially those who focus on hunters’ ethics, also object to canned hunting.[5] These objections are on the grounds of “fair chase,” the idea that an animal has a fair chance of escaping the hunter, and it’s not too easy for the hunter to kill the animal. It is believed that canned hunts take this element away. . .
    . . . Another less well-known incident occurred two years prior to the Dick Cheney hunting incident when the vice president participated in a canned hunt at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier Township, Pennsylvania. Cheney and nine companions killed 417 out of 500 ringneck pheasants, of which the Vice President himself is credited with killing 70, and an unknown number of mallard ducks.[9] . . .

    SOURCE – link to en.wikipedia.org

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