In Shuafat, Palestinian family delays funeral of murdered teen to search for answers

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Palestinian youth move sign to construct barricade inside of Shuafat, 3 July 2014. (Photo: Allison Deger)

Palestinian youth move sign to construct barricade inside of Shuafat, 3 July 2014. (Photo: Allison Deger)

While the investigation is ongoing to find the culprits responsible for abducting, killing and burning a Palestinian youth in Jerusalem two days ago, police are not stating if the crime was “nationalistic” or “criminal,” which is code for whether the perpetrator is Israeli or Palestinian. According to the family of Mohammed Abu Khdeir, 17, who was thrown into a vehicle Tuesday around 4:30 am and found dead and brutalized within an hour in a field in the western edge of Jerusalem, the police are looking at relatives. Yet all of Shuafat, the East Jerusalem neighborhood where Abu Khdeir is from, is sure settlers conducted a retaliation murder for the deaths of the three kidnapped Israeli youths Gil-Ad Shaer, Naftali Fraenkel, and Eyal Yifrah.

“They want the family to get the boys for questioning,” said Walid Abu Khdeir, the deceased’s uncle. “We refused this. If you want them come and capture them,” he continued. Police also released false information that Mohammed was gay, leading Israeli media to pick up the story as a crime of passion from an imagined homophobic family member. (Richard Silverstein re-caps here.)

Shuafat. (Photo: Allison Deger)

Shuafat. (Photo: Allison Deger)

To Palestinians, the murder was clearly carried out by settlers because two days before Mohammed was abducted another Palestinian youth in Shuafat was almost kidnapped. Ten year-old Mousa Zalum managed to escape with rough bruising on his neck. His family called the police, but no one responded.

In the intervening days, groups of teen-aged Israelis roamed the streets of Jerusalem with the stated goal of “looking for Arabs.” They draped themselves in flags and marched through Jerusalem’s shopping district usually abuzz with some Palestinians, especially during the holiday season of Ramadan. They chanted “Death to Arabs!” and “a Jew has a soul, an Arab is a son of a bitch” (this slogan rhymes in Hebrew).

By the third night of “Death to Arabs!” marches the Israeli police were finally on patrol. They stopped the youths from entering parts of the city and kept them at bay from a group of anti-price tag Israeli mourners (Israelis grieving for the three kidnapped youth, but not grieving and calling for the death of Arabs).

Shuafat light rail stop. (Photo: Allison Deger)

Shuafat light rail stop. (Photo: Allison Deger)

The funeral for Mohammed was expected to take place on Thursday, but was delayed by the family who were pressing for a more thorough medical exam. The holdup came from Mohammed’s father who was dissatisfied with the autopsy that concluded today without leading Israeli officials to finger settlers as the murders. Mohammed’s father spent most of the morning at a Jerusalem hospital with the body, later with mourners at the mosque next to his home.

Three blocks away, clashes were on-going from the previous night. Central Shuafat was trashed from the hours of rocks versus sound grenades and bullets that has come to define confrontations between Israeli forces and Palestinian youths. The light rail bus shelter was charred last night, the glass splattered along the tram line. There are checkpoints too, erected at every entrance into Shuafat allowing only residents, journalists and United Nations workers to enter.

Father of Mohammed Abu Khudier (left) in mourners tent, Shuafat. (Photo: Allison Deger)

Father of Mohammed Abu Khdeir (left) in mourners tent, Shuafat. (Photo: Allison Deger)

After Friday noon prayers, Mohammed will be buried in a cemetery near his home in Shuafat. Police will continue to investigate the murder, but to his family—and all of Palestinian Jerusalem—their son was a victim of a gruesome hate-crime. The local Fatah council in Shuafat has called for a two-day strike.

Mohammed’s death also sparked a wave of protests in nearly every East Jerusalem neighborhood last night. The almost 24 hours of clashes were note-worthy because of not only their duration, but Israeli police used live-fire on the Jerusalem residents and Israeli citizens. The remainder of the eastern part of the city was also reeling from nearly 12 hours of continued clashes between hundreds of Palestinian youth and Israeli police that subsided after daybreak.

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  1. a blah chick
    July 3, 2014, 8:50 pm

    Looks like the police are saying to the family “convince us that it wasn’t an honor killing and we’ll consider the possibility that it might be a hate crime.”

    Idiots.

  2. just
    July 3, 2014, 8:54 pm

    It’s complete bs by the GoI. They have no empathy– only cruelty is running in their veins. They don’t even ‘see’ truth.

    Enough.

  3. Annie Robbins
    July 3, 2014, 10:09 pm

    According to the family of Mohammed Abu Khdeir, 17…. the police are looking at relatives….“They want the family to get the boys for questioning,” said Walid Abu Khdeir, the deceased’s uncle. “We refused this. If you want them come and capture them,” he continued.

    yeah, israel wants this to go away so they will probably harass the family hoping they will shut up. i can’t recall an israeli jew ever going to prison for killing a palestinian. they will never find the perpetrators. they just don’t imprison settlers for any length of time no matter what they do. a person would get more time in jail in the US for abusing a dog than he’d get in israel for killing a man. if the killer was jewish and the dead person was palestinian.

    maybe i am wrong, but i doubt it. it goes unspoken but everyone knows.

    • Mikhael
      July 4, 2014, 2:30 am

      Annie Robbins says:
      July 3, 2014 at 10:09
      i can’t recall an israeli jew ever going to prison for killing a palestinian.

      Since you can’t recall, Annie, let me refresh your recollection.

      Ami Popper is still serving his life sentence for his murder of Arab workers in the late 1980s waiting at a hitchhiking stop.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ami_Popper

      Yaakov Teitel is serving a life sentence for the murder of two Palestinian Arabs as well as attempts on the life of leftwing professor Zeev Sternhell.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaakov_Teitel

      Hagai Segal served time for the attempt on the life of the mayor of Ramallah in the 1980s.

      US-Israeli Allen Harry Goodman was sentenced to life for his rampage on the Temple Mount in which he killed two Arabs. (The latter two were released, just like the thousands of Palestinian Arabs, many of whom were convicted of murdering Israelis were also released, in lopsided prisoner exchanges and as part of “confidence building measures” and “goodwill gestures” by Israel.)

      And of course, Israeli governments never had the chance to bring people like Baruch Goldstein or Eden Natan-Zada, who indeed committed terror attacks against Arabs, because they were lynched on-site by enraged mobs. (I’m sure you understand the anger of those mobs, I do too, but I suspect that you are/were a little less understanding when an off-duty Israeli policeman shot Hussam Taysir Duwait dead, while he was in the midst of using an idle front end loader and used it to wantonly crush Israelis to death on Jaffa Road in Jerusalem in 2008. I recall reading mindless anti-Israel talkbacks that suggested that he was an innocent victim of an extrajudicial murder.

      they will never find the perpetrators.

      Sounds like you really hope the Israeli police don’t find them. Unlike you, I really hope that they find whoever is guilty of this abominable crime, and that they are punished accordingly, whether they are Jews or Arabs.

      they just don’t imprison settlers for any length of time no matter what they do. a person would get more time in jail in the US for abusing a dog than he’d get in israel for killing a man. if the killer was jewish and the dead person was palestinian.

      Cf. above for numerous examples that contradict your statement.

      • Djinn
        July 4, 2014, 3:58 am

        Yaakov Teitel also attacked Jewish people so was a bit harder to sweep under the rug.

        Goodman’s guilt could hardly be doubted by anyone given the large number of witnesses.

        Hagai Segal served a total of what 2 years? And now writes columns.

        Remind me, were any of their homes razed like Hussam Taysir’s was? (NB amongst those who doubted Taysir’s actions were motivated by terrorism was his Jewish ex girlfriend).

        How many Palestinians have been killed by Israelis and how many Israelis were ever convicted?

        How many Israelis have been killed by Palestinians and how many Palestinians have been convicted (or been detained under “administrative detention”)

        I don’t think your rebuttal is quite as strong as you think it is.

      • amigo
        July 4, 2014, 5:47 am

        “I don’t think your rebuttal is quite as strong as you think it is.”Djinn.

        And poof, Mikhael is gone like a fart in the wind.

        Back to hasbara central for a much needed refresher course.

      • Mikhael
        July 4, 2014, 5:51 am

        Djinn says:
        July 4, 2014 at 3:58 am
        I don’t think your rebuttal is quite as strong as you think it is.

        Annie alleged that Israel never jails Jews for killing Arabs. She was wrong.

        Yaakov Teitel also attacked Jewish people so was a bit harder to sweep under the rug.

        He received the harshest sentence for the murder of the Palestinian Arabs, crimes that he confessed to. His attacks on Jews carried a lesser sentence of attempted murder, as they did not cause fatalities.

        Goodman’s guilt could hardly be doubted by anyone given the large number of witnesses.

        Sure. And he was appropriately arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced. At this early stage in the investigation of the murder of abu Khdeir boy, who do you suggest Israel should convict and sentence based merely on the grainy CCTV footage and the demand of the bereaved family that the governmenty declare it Jewish-inspired revenge?

        Hagai Segal served a total of what 2 years? And now writes columns.

        Yeah, and Arab terrorists like Ahlam Tamimi who aided and abetted the Sbarro restaurant attack that killed 15 Israelis was released and now hosts a TV show on AL Quds TV.

        http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpost.com%2FMiddle-East%2FFemale-terrorist-hosts-talk-show-on-Hamas-TV&date=2013-08-08

        Other released Arab killers, like Muqdad Salah, enjoy fat pensions from the PA.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/world/middleeast/remaking-a-life-after-years-in-an-israeli-prison.html?_r=0

        Some are still battling the trauma and torture they endured under Israeli confinement, like Issa Abd Rabbo, who was denied the ability to acquire some quality specimens for his prized stamp collection while in prisone by his cruel Israeli caprots. Oh, the humanity!

        http://www.timesofisrael.com/freed-terrorist-israel-interfered-with-my-stamp-collecting/

        Let’s not forget Mona Awana, who lured an Israeli teen to his death through an Internet seduction, but is now living in exile in Turkey and enjoyed lunch with Mahmoud Abbas on one of his visits there.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ofir_Rahum

        Remind me, were any of their homes razed like Hussam Taysir’s was?

        The only problem I can see with the razing of his home was that it was a subversion of Israeli sovereignty over the city, so I agree that the house should not have been razed in this particular instance, as it was in Jabal Mukaber, which is a neighborhood in Israeli Jerusalem and not in any of the disputed territory to the east of it. Such deterrent measures are supposed to be applied in the disputed territories only, as they are a continuation of the Emergency Regulations promulgated by the British, which Israel is bound to enforce, as they were the last legal sovereign there until the illegal Jordanian annexation of those areas.

        (NB amongst those who doubted Taysir’s actions were motivated by terrorism was his Jewish ex girlfriend).

        Sure, makes sense. The recently hired Hussam Taysir just happened to have grabbed a bulldozer on a day that he wasn’t supposed to be working and it was just a nutty coincidence that he killed every Jew he could run over. And a woman he was involved romantically with defended him and said he couldn’t be a terrorist, so there you go, unbiased proof that he was innocent.

        How many Palestinians have been killed by Israelis and how many Israelis were ever convicted?

        Instances of planned and premeditated killings of Palestinian Arabs by Israeli Jews for nationalistic motives (i.e., murder in cold blood) have been few* in number since the founding of Israel.
        There have been far more planned and premeditated killings of Jews by Arabs.

        *There have, of course, been many Arab fatalities in armed and unarmed confrontation with Israeli security forces over the past 70-odd years–and some of those were justifiable shootings and some of them “bad” (and by the way, IDF personnel have been court martialed for killings and abuse of Arabs as well).

      • a blah chick
        July 4, 2014, 5:01 pm

        “Such deterrent measures are supposed to be applied in the disputed territories only, as they are a continuation of the Emergency Regulations promulgated by the British, which Israel is bound to enforce, as they were the last legal sovereign there until the illegal Jordanian annexation of those areas.”

        Israel did not have to enforce these regulations. When they were first put into effect by the British everyone condemned them, including Ben Gurion and his henchmen. They chose to use them when they came into power in Israel order to keep the Palestinian remnant under control.

        Also the territories are occupied, not disputed. Disputes are between equals.

      • LittleBat
        July 5, 2014, 4:28 am

        “Such deterrent measures are supposed to be applied in the disputed territories only, as they are a continuation of the Emergency Regulations promulgated by the British, which Israel is bound to enforce …”

        The home demolitions policy is a part of Israel’s policy of occupation. Thus, the home of Baruch Goldstein, in Hebron, could never have been demolished – that would be out of the question.

        I know of many cases of Israelis sentenced for killing Arabs, but none which did not show exceptional leniency. And one reason for this, is that there is a perception of unfairness – in most of such killings no one is ever charged. These few are the unlucky ones, put on trial for a public show that Israel has a justice system.

        There were the killer at the massacre of Kfar Kassim, of course. I believe that some were in prison for more than a month. And there is the case of Daniel Pinto – I’ve been thinking about him. I wonder if he should be questioned in this recent case? He killed several young boys in south Lebanon, in the late 1970s, during Operation Litani. He liked torturing them, and dumped their bodies in a well. He boasted about his crimes at a party, in the presence of a horrified American diplomat, which led to a formal investigation by the UN in South Lebanon, and then a trial in Israel. He was pardoned after two years in prison, very little of which time was actually spent in a proper prison cell. He then married (these types always find female admirers) and his wedding was a big public event, the “wedding of the season” in northern Israel.

      • tree
        July 5, 2014, 5:51 am

        Such deterrent measures are supposed to be applied in the disputed territories only, as they are a continuation of the Emergency Regulations promulgated by the British, which Israel is bound to enforce, as they were the last legal sovereign there until the illegal Jordanian annexation of those areas.

        Such rot, Israel is not “bound to enforce” the British Emergency Regulations, and Jordan was the last legal sovereign of the West Bank by Palestinian consensus. In fact Israel has conveniently declared itself in a “State of Emergency” for every year since its founding in order to justify using variations on the Emergency Regulations, which Britain enforced in the last years of its Mandate against both Jews and Palestinians, but which Israel enforces lopsidedly against the Palestinians instead. Because of course the Emergency Regulations were an abomination when the British used them against Jews, but they are merely “necessary” when Israel uses them against Palestinians.

      • tree
        July 4, 2014, 6:54 am

        Ami Popper is still serving his life sentence for his murder of Arab workers in the late 1980s waiting at a hitchhiking stop.

        Popper is an interesting case.The seven murders were committed in 1990 when he stole his brothers uniform and gun, demanded IDs of Palestinians waiting at a bus stop, then lined them up and fired 140 shots, killing 7 and seriously wounding 11 others. Seven more Palestinians were killed by the IDF after riots occurred in response to the mass killing. (BTW, riots among Jewish Israelis occurred after the recent kidnapping/murders were discovered but no shots were fired, and no Jew was killed by riot control, a major difference between the treatment of rioting Jews and rioting Palestinians.)

        Popper was sentenced to seven life sentences but his sentence was commuted to 40 years, making him eligible for parole after 33 years in 2023.

        Most life sentences in Israel are commuted to 30 years, or 40 years for the more deadly or outrageous, with parole possible after 2 thirds of the sentence served. For a point of interest, the release of Palestinians convicted of murder, as part of a negotiated prisoner release, usually occurs after they have served an equivalent time to that of Israeli convicts, thus the idea that Israel is making some great sacrifice to release those prisoners is a phony one. Since Israel regularly releases convicted murderers among their own citizens after 20 to thirty years there is nothing particularly generous about releasing Palestinian prisoners after the same amount of time. And of course, Palestinian prisoners are convicted under military rules, which fall far short of providing adequate judicial safeguards.

        In any case, Popper got additional favorable treatment that Palestinian prisoners never get. He was allowed conjugal visits and after 10 years he was allowed to leave prison many multiple times on weekend furloughs. He married his wife while serving his prison time and fathered 3 children during that time. In 2007, on his 124th 48 hour furlough, he negligently killed his wife and one child in a car accident. As far as I can tell, this did not negatively impact his sentence. In 2012 he was transferred to a different prison because he was apparently harassing former Israeli President Moshe Katsav, who was also serving time in the prison for rape and sexual harassment. According to news reports, Popper wanted to “settle accounts” with Katsav because Katsav refused to pardon Popper during his stint as President from 2000 to 2007.

        Certainly Popper’s lenient treatment in prison can not be compared to any Palestinian prisoner.

      • tree
        July 4, 2014, 7:36 am

        Alan Harry Goodman served 15 and a half years before his release in 1997.

        Segal, who was a member of the terrorist Jewish Underground in the 1980’s, was convicted in 1984 for his part in the 1980 car bombing of 3 West Bank mayors, the murders of 3 students at the Islamic College, and the attempted bombing of Palestinian buses and other crimes committed by the JU.

        Menachem Livni, Shaul Nir and Uzi Sharbav, the three Jewish Underground members who were directly convicted of murder in the Islamic College violence and subsequently sentenced to life imprisonment, had their sentences reduced 3 times, served less than 7 years in prison and were hailed as heroes by the leaders of the Gush Eminem upon their release.

        Hagai Segal was sentenced to 5 years in prison, had his sentence cut to 3 years and then was released after 2 years. He now lists himself as a “lecturer, academic and consultant on Middle Eastern affairs”. He’s also a journalist and opinion writer for Ma’ariv and its website, ynet.

      • Mikhael
        July 4, 2014, 8:00 am

        tree says:
        July 4, 2014 at 7:36 am
        Alan Harry Goodman served 15 and a half years before his release in 1997.

        He served more time than Mona Awana did. Like Mona Awana, who lured an Israeli teenage boy to his death by feigning a romantic interest in him over the Internet, Goodman agreed to leave the country as a condition for his release. He is now in Baltimore, she is now in Turkey.

        Hagai Segal was sentenced to 5 years in prison, had his sentence cut to 3 years and then was released after 2 years. …He’s also a journalist and opinion writer for Ma’ariv and its website, ynet.

        And Ahlam Tamimi has her own TV talk show since her release. We’re repeating ourselves.

      • Mikhael
        July 4, 2014, 7:55 am

        tree says:
        July 4, 2014 at 7:36 am
        Certainly Popper’s lenient treatment in prison can not be compared to any Palestinian prisoner.

        Maybe, but the furloughs, conjugal visits etc. is in line with treatment that other Israeli citizens (whether Jewish or Arab), who have committed violent crimes, can receive in return for good behavior while incarcerated. While I happen to be against granting these types of privileges to violent offenders, if the Israeli penal system allows a furlough to an Arab citizen of Israel convicted of murdering his wife and her suspected lover, then there is no reason to deny it to Popper.

        Again, I am against furloughs in principle, even for Popper, but I think if you’re slightly rational you could see that there’s no comparison to allowing furlough for Popper, who wears a security anklet when he has been furloughed, and the idea of extending these same privileges to non-Israeli citizens who are terror cell members and have been convicted of participating in murderous terror attacks. Can you really contemplate a situation where a convicted Hamas or Islamic Jihad member would willingly turn himself back in to Israeli custody after a weekend furlough in Gaza ended? I mean, seriously.

        Since Israel regularly releases convicted murderers among their own citizens after 20 to thirty years there is nothing particularly generous about releasing Palestinian prisoners after the same amount of time.

        While Israeli murderers have had their sentences commuted in Israel, I’ve never heard of Israelis who have committed mass murder, like killing 15 people, as Ahlam Tamimi, being released early.

      • tree
        July 5, 2014, 5:30 am

        While Israeli murderers have had their sentences commuted in Israel, I’ve never heard of Israelis who have committed mass murder, like killing 15 people, as Ahlam Tamimi, being released early.

        Funny because I named three such Israeli Jews in my post above. Menachem Livni, Shaul Nir and Uzi Sharbav were convicted of the Islamic College attack which killed 3 and wounded 33, as well as the attempted assassination of the West Bank mayors. Besides having their multiple life sentences shortened 3 times, they were pardoned in 1990, just over 5 years after being convicted in 1985 of the multiple murders. Livni made the news recently because the Israeli Tax Authority has been giving him money, and he has been given person protection from the IDF.

        An Israeli settler who was released early from a life sentence for killing 3 Palestinians in 1983 has received compensation of 1.3 million NIS (around $250,000) from the Israeli Tax Authority for alleged damage to land that he has cultivated in the Hebron area – land that he illegally confiscated from its Palestinian owners.

        Menachem Livni is a settler in the ultra-right wing settlement of Kiryat Arba, in the Palestinian city of Hebron, and says that he is entitled to the payments, and will continue to sue the Israeli government for more money.

        Livni was convicted of the murder of three Palestinian students, and the wounding of 33 others, when he and two other right-wing settlers with the so-called ‘Israeli Underground’ threw hand grenades and fired automatic weapons at the Islamic College of Hebron in 1983.

        He was sentenced to life in prison along with the other perpetrators of the attack, Shaul Nir and Uzi Sharbav, but he received an early release when he was pardoned by Israeli President Chaim Herzog in 1990.

        He immediately moved to the Israeli settlement Kiryat Arba, which soon became known for violent attacks against Palestinians and illegal seizure of Palestinian land.

        Livni himself took over a large swath of Palestinian farmland and began growing fruit. He was provided with his own contingent of Israeli military troops to protect his stolen swath of land from the Palestinian owners, who repeatedly attempted to reclaim it.

        http://www.imemc.org/article/65049

        And, as I pointed out, Popper is eligible for parole 7 years ahead of his multiple life- commuted to 40 years sentence. Goodman, who also committed multiple murders at the Temple Mount, was released after 15 and a half years. So you are either suffering from short term memory loss or you are not being truthful when you say you have never heard of Israeli mass murderers being released early.

        Tamimi and Awana, who were both charged as accessories to murder rather than murderers themselves, were given life sentences and ended up serving 9 and 8 years respectively before being released as part of prisoner exchanges. These were longer prison times by a few years than Livni and his cohorts served, even longer than Segal served, and several years shorter than Goodman served. So their release was within the average given to Israeli murderers of Palestinians. ( My suspicion is that Goodman served the longer sentence because of the location of the murders- the Temple Mount- and the fact that although he was a dual citizen he was considered more of an American than an Israeli. He also didn’t have the power of the settler community pushing for his release like Livni and the others did. )

        The majority of released Palestinian murderers have served around the same amount of time-20+ years – as your average Israeli citizen murderer serves. So my point remains that releasing Palestinian prisoners at the point at which they would have been released pro-forma had they been Israeli citizens is not a sacrifice on the part of the Israeli government, despite cries to the contrary.

        As for furloughs, Israel has trouble with Israeli citizens committing violent crimes and/or fleeing the country after being given furloughs and still the bungled system goes on. I don’t see it as any more rational to give furloughs to Israeli citizens than it would be to give them to Palestinians who are still under obvious Israeli control in the West Bank and Gaza.

        http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Editorials/Moshe-Ben-Ivgi-and-a-tale-of-farcical-furloughs

      • a blah chick
        July 4, 2014, 9:24 am

        “Popper wanted to “settle accounts” with Katsav because Katsav refused to pardon Popper during his stint as President from 2000 to 2007.”

        I would love to have been the fly on the wall in the mess hall when that meeting took place.

      • Annie Robbins
        July 4, 2014, 1:50 pm

        omg, w/thousands of palestinian prisoners held in israeli jails, and hundreds of thousands since the beginning of the nakba, you’ve found 3 cases (1 actually happened this century!) where a jew was convicted for murdering palestinians.

        i sooooo stand corrected. you won, now take a bow!

        Sounds like you really hope the Israeli police don’t find them.

        let’s get one thing clear, there is nothing i would like more than the killers of Mohammed Abu Khdeir to be captured and imprisoned for the rest of their lives. (well, that’s not true, i would rather have peace in the middle east and for this madness to be over). but in the short run, i would live to be proved wrong, and no, your little list of names means virtually nothing in the grand scheme of things, i think you get my point.

        as for who killed the israeli teens? i do not have enough faith in the israeli government and their 99.74 conviction rate to believe anything they say anyway. they torture palestinians for confessions, surely you know that.

      • Shuki
        July 4, 2014, 3:01 pm

        You’re right on this one, there are far more prosecutions against Arabs for killing innocent Jews than there are against Jews for killing innocent Arabs. Generally speaking, crimes that are more frequently committed are more frequently prosecuted.

  4. Kay24
    July 3, 2014, 10:36 pm

    It is unbelievable. How easily the monsters in the Israeli government, came to premature conclusions, and went berserk collectively punishing ALL Palestinians, terrorizing them, arresting them, killing them, and smashing their homes, and yet, they are grasping at straws, and trying to find excuses that might cast doubt, as to exactly who murdered this kid. There are eye witnesses, and apparently a video, showing the criminals who viciously did this, but what do you know, the Israelis are acting stupid and slow, and being so careful in this investigation.
    As of today there are no videos, or any other evidence showing exactly who killed the 3 settlers kids, and the mystery deepens because all reports say Hamas, who usually claims they committed some crime, has steadfastly denied this. Something stinks in Tel Aviv, and I feel they have much to hide.

    • ritzl
      July 3, 2014, 11:27 pm

      @Kay24- Yeah. Killing Palestinians is a politically-uniting function in Israel. Arresting Jewish kids (forget about equal punishment and/or home demolitions for the families of the perps) acting on the explicit advice and example of their leader(s) is a fracturing one.

      When knowingly killing innocent people is the one and only factor holding together a government, it’s a very very sick society. (You’ve probably said that before…)

      • Kay24
        July 4, 2014, 7:43 am

        Society is sick indeed to keep accepting these crimes, and you have to wonder about their intelligence too, if they are unable to realize what their government does in their name, is not bringing peace or security for them.
        Their is hatred in their words and actions (but we are supposed to believe it is all on the other side).

    • Jackdaw
      July 4, 2014, 1:05 am

      @Kay

      ” There are eye witnesses, and apparently a video, showing the criminals”

      If there is a video, why are the police acting foolishly and questioning the boy’s family?
      I would think that after bungling the kidnap investigation, the police would want to solve this crime quickly and improve they’re tarnished reputation.

      • Annie Robbins
        July 4, 2014, 2:00 pm

        If there is a video, why are the police acting foolishly and questioning the boy’s family?

        video: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/03/palestinian-teenager-khdeir-video-footage-abduction-kidnapping

        ha! you might as well ask if there was a video of the nakba day killings why israel has not turned over the killers!

        truth be told jack, the police questioned the boy’s family to get them to sign some release this was not a revenge killing before they released the body which was why the funeral was delayed. they want to pin it on the family. because the implications, that netanyahu revved up the crowd in a fury of revenge which caused the death of this young boy would therefore make the government complicit in his death (according to netanyahu’s logic; since they have no evidence hamas was involved but are blaming them anyway based on some logic that hamas inspired the kidnapping. ) same difference u see.

      • justicewillprevail
        July 4, 2014, 2:28 pm

        What a deeply despicable crew they are. First, they spread rumours and smears, then try and hang it on the family. Now there is a video of the perpetrators, you can be sure that they will ignore it. There is absolutely no desire on their part to arrest murderers when they are Jews. Because that’s ok, and they are always defended, whether settlers, soldiers, police or civilians. They are all complicit in racist hate crimes. Compare and contrast their self-indulgent victimhood and punitive revenge attacks on the innocent. There is no justice, there is no society other than a vile supremacist culture who lord it over the others, who value no human life except their own.

  5. sticker
    July 3, 2014, 10:37 pm

    i havent even read the article yet, but i absolutely have to rant or i will explode.
    I have so many questions, and, without answers, it is not hard to imagine the worst possible scenarios.
    Unless i missed it, i have not seen that israel has given any evidence that a kidnapping took place or that those 3 bodies in the field even belonged to those missing boys. I know they wont do an autopsy b/c of relig reasons, but they could have done DNA matching. The bodies would not have been at all recognizable after being exposed to the heat, humidity, and insects for 18 days. With all the bombing, demolitions, detentions, loss of lives, loss of property, loss of income, loss of freedom and rights, night raids, riots, beatings, shootings, injuries, and death that this kidnapping precipitated, why doesn’t israel do a simple DNA match?
    Those 2 missing hamas members- there’s no evidence that they ran away or are in hiding. It’s not impossible that they were picked up for some unrelated reason, the questioning got rough, they got killed, and the murders were pinned on them b/c they will never show up again.
    What about that stolen car? Is there any evidence that the hamas guys stole that car or could it just as well have been stolen by the older yeshiva student b/c it belonged to some ‘arab loving peace punk’.
    i just want to hear of some real evidence, like a simple DNA match, to ‘justify’ all that israel has done since june 12th. I don’t understand why people would simply accept the israeli version when everything that has happened in the west bank and gaza, to the people and their gov, entirely serves israel’s goals. When there is that much ‘cui bono’, it’s not too much to ask for a little evidence like a DNA match.

    And i also want to know why all the focus is on the 16 yr old as a revenge killing, but little mention of the 2 arabs who were found hanging from trees before the 16 yr old was killed, and no mention at all that those 2 murders may also have been revenge killings. With israel ‘investigating’, all 3 may be found to be honor killings by savage muslime pedophile worshipers, and no one will ask for actual evidence. They just accept israel’s word.

    • LittleBat
      July 5, 2014, 5:04 am

      “What about that stolen car? Is there any evidence that the hamas guys stole that car or could it just as well have been stolen by the older yeshiva student b/c it belonged to some ‘arab loving peace punk’.”

      Sticker, you are raising very sound points. We know very little about the crime against the 3 Israeli students, none of the usual protocol of a police investigation was made. For one thing – there was no public press conference, describing the place where they were last seen, the presumed location and time of the abduction, the model and colour of the car, etc. This would be, ordinarily, very valuable information – it would be presented to the public with a call for witnesses. Some one may have seen something. Especially, they may have seen that car about – acting suspiciously – prior to this kidnap.

      Instead, we know nothing about the car. Who owned it? Was it, in fact, stolen? If not, how did Palestinians get to drive a car with Israeli plates – that would give them access to the privileged roads.

      The only snippet I have been able to find – via a poster on the Tikkun site – is this. And this information will not put your doubts to rest.

      “Among the items found in the burnt out car involved in the kidnapping, according to a Channel 10 report, were 8 bullet shells, blood, a shirt, a Hassidic music disk that did not belong to the boys, and kipot that also did not belong to the boys.”

      http://www.jewishpress.com/news/kidnapping-details-being-released/2014/07/01/

      • Djinn
        July 5, 2014, 6:08 am

        I have my questions about the whole thing (Palestinians driving around for up to an hour with 3 kidnapped/dead Israelis in an area crawling with IDF which suggests planning and skill but then burying the bodies in shallow graves on property connected to them which seems rather stupid) but this:

        “Among the items found in the burnt out car involved in the kidnapping, according to a Channel 10 report, were 8 bullet shells, blood, a shirt, a Hassidic music disk that did not belong to the boys, and kipot that also did not belong to the boys.”

        doesn’t make me think conspiracy it makes it seem obvious that it was a stolen Israeli plate car which would explain why the 3 got in the car in the first place.

  6. palijustice
    July 3, 2014, 11:07 pm

    It just keeps getting worse. The Israelis won’t pursue solving the murder, and no one will be charged or prosecuted for the crime. (No settlers suspects houses will be blown up either.) The difference in how the government treats the murders of the three Jewish boys and the murder of the Palestinian boy says it all about Israel.

  7. Daniel Rich
    July 4, 2014, 12:07 am

    @ Hostage,

    Completely off topic: I haven’t seen you around for a while, so I’m hoping you’re all just fine and dandy.

  8. a blah chick
    July 4, 2014, 12:17 am

    Who’s the woman in the mourners’ tent?

  9. Mondowise
    July 4, 2014, 12:59 am

    ok, so we have eye witnesses, culprits who tortured this poor boy to death can be seen on camera, and Ma’an news had an article stating that according to Mohammed’s cousin, the license plate was written down:

    “Ansam Abu Khder, one of the teenager’s cousins, said witnesses had written down the car’s license plate and that police were examining CCTV footage.” http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=709498

    but STILL NO ARRESTS!! and where the hell is abbas in all this? hardly a peep out of him! i haven’t slept well since Mohammed was murdered, it just eviscerated me seeing his innocent face and knowing how horrific his murder was. that izrael is beating, torturing, abusing his family and other innocent Palestinians over his death just brings me to my knees in grief. honestly, nothing sickens me more than the diabolical crimes of these rabid zionist psycho-freaks.

    • a blah chick
      July 4, 2014, 2:58 pm

      “but STILL NO ARRESTS!!”

      Yep, I’ve been yammering about that for days.

      The least they could do is make their non action look good. Bring in a couple of guys, drink some coffee, ask about the families then release them and say that they are “helping police with their inquiries.”

  10. LittleBat
    July 4, 2014, 1:38 am

    It is very commendable that the family is insisting upon a full autopsy. This essential step was avoided in the case of some Palestinians deaths – and one can understand it adds to family’s ordeal – but it is always key to solving the crime.

    What of the story that the abduction of this lad was captured on security camera? Many commentators have described the existence of this tape. If this story is true, then it is vital evidence.

  11. seafoid
    July 4, 2014, 2:17 am

    The light rail was supposed to show that the eternal capital of Israel is a regular city. The settlers of pisgat zeev could glide past shuafat and its refugee camp and iterate east jerusalem to Israel forever. But the hatred of the occupation is always there in the background, liable to explode. And the shuafat station is closed again so the settlers will have to take the bus.

  12. seafoid
    July 4, 2014, 2:39 am

    They solve crimes differently behind the wall where jews are the suspects. There is no Shin Bet torture programme and no system of informers. Jews can’t have their homes demolished and there are no incentives for neighbours to betray anyone. The perpetrators can’t be hunted down and killed as in the West Bank because Israeli citizens expect to have their rights respected. That is why it’s apartheid.

  13. ToivoS
    July 4, 2014, 4:31 am

    This poor boy’s death seems to be a little different from the hundreds of other Palestinians children killed over the last few years. I noticed his picture above the fold at both the Guardian and BBC today. I guess after running the pics of the Israeli victims in this endless war for the last week the case of Mohammed Abu Khdeir seems to have received some attention in the MSM. Small consolation but significant nevertheless.

  14. Walid
    July 4, 2014, 7:08 am

    Funeral is about to start. Red Crescent ambulance sent to pick up the corpse of Mohammed. Low turnout because of heavy Israeli closures everywhere.

    Those that are up and want to watch it, Mustafa Barghouti is being interviewed now:

    http://www.almayadeen.net/live

    • just
      July 4, 2014, 7:23 am

      Thanks Walid.

      RIP. Condolences to his family and the Palestinians.

    • seafoid
      July 4, 2014, 7:32 am

      Shukran ya Walid. Loads of Palestinian flags visible in the eternal united capital of HaJewishDisneyland .
      Lovely to hear the Arabs talking about al filisteeniyeen.
      And they are calling the deceased a shahid.
      Really bad timing for this too on the first week of Ramadan.

      How strange the whole Zionist thing has been.

      • Walid
        July 4, 2014, 8:12 am

        First Friday of Ramadan is supposed to be super holy with usually 150,000 worshipers at al-Aqsa but with the closures of checkpoints, crossings and age-curfew, there were less than 8,000 for this noon-prayer. This is really pissing off the Palestinians and as if the Israelis are going out of their way to provoke them into doing something rash. I don’t think the day will end without a major clash. The way the coffin is being carried, it looks like the whole weight is not more than about 30 kilos and under the shroud, there is hardly a contour of a body.

      • a blah chick
        July 4, 2014, 9:18 am

        Given that he was small for his age and that someone tried to abduct a ten year old earlier it looks like the fiends were searching for a child victim. Yeah, don’t try to grab a grown man who might be able to fight you off.

        Any word at all on the state of the “investigation?”

  15. just
    July 4, 2014, 8:17 am

    “The way the coffin is being carried, it looks like the whole weight is not more than about 30 kilos and under the shroud, there is hardly a contour of a body.”

    I noticed that as well- heartbreaking.

    “as if the Israelis are going out of their way to provoke them into doing something rash”

    They are. The whole thing seems carefully orchestrated by the GoI.

    • Walid
      July 4, 2014, 8:22 am

      They just reported that the flag they had used to wrap the body kept getting blown off by the wind and some people reported what they saw under, that the body was totally calcined. Wait until that news spreads.

  16. just
    July 4, 2014, 8:28 am

    omg.

    Burning a body is not ok in either Judaism or Islam.

    • Kay24
      July 4, 2014, 9:32 am

      Somehow it is getting more and more obvious, that these zionist monsters are not following Judaism. It is more like the devil.
      They will stop at nothing, not even international or religious laws.
      Just like the nazis.

  17. Woody Tanaka
    July 4, 2014, 12:18 pm

    By the manner of this “investigation”, as well as the instigation by Mr. Human Animal, Netanyahoo, the Zionist government is complicit in this murder.

  18. Kay24
    July 4, 2014, 1:02 pm

    Latest updates from Haaretz. IDF thugs shoots into crowd near Gaza fence, rockets intercepted. Chaos as usual.

    Who in the world will help these poor Palestinians get their rights and freedom?
    Everyone simply looks the other way, and the US keeps sending more of our money and weapons enabling the violent occupier.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.603051

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