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Rob Reiner wants to pick Palestinians’ leaders for them

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Hollywood director Rob Reiner says you have to “eliminate” Hamas not negotiate with it (even as Israel is negotiating with it). And Palestinians have no right of self-determination, let alone the right to vote. From Politicking with Larry King, reported by CBS News:

“[Y]ou can’t negotiate with that, you have to say either Hamas goes away and the Palestinian Authority takes over all that region and deal with some kind of honest broker here, and create the two-state solution…”

He then paralleled the terrorist group with the Tea Party.

“Anytime you’re dealing with an extreme group, you cannot negotiate with them, and the way to do it is to eliminate it,” Reiner said. “With the Tea Party, you have to go through political thing, you have to wait till 2020 to redistrict, but that is really tough stuff.”

King then asked Reiner what should be done about the Gaza situation and Israel.

“Well, there again, you’ve got a horrible situation where you have an extreme faction, the Hamas, that controls Gaza, that is written into their playbook, the destruction of Israel, the destruction of every Jew on the planet,” Reiner said to King. “You can’t negotiate with that you have to say either Hamas goes away and the Palestinian authority takes over all that region and deal with some kind of honest broker here, and create the two-state solution.”

Well, at least people in the Tea Party districts get to vote, even if Rob Reiner doesn’t like who they vote for.

Contrast Reiner’s position to that of Irish Senator David Norris, and then ask, Who’s the liberal? Norris:

My Jewish and my pro-Israel friends say to me sometimes, How would you fare as a gay man in any of these [Middle East societies]–? I know exactly how I’d fare. It doesn’t mean that it is correct to deny people the right to choose their own government. What self-respecting or sane people would allow their enemies to choose their government for them?

PS. Rob Reiner is very old school, i.e., these are generational Jewish attitudes, and he feels completely comfortable about expressing them, because he’s with another altacocker, Larry King. So they’re off to the races. (Make that racist). These people have no clue what is swirling and raging up from the young people.

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“How would you fare as a gay man in any of these [Middle East societies]”

Better life expectancy than a kid in Gaza under the Israeli heel
The orientalism in those bot pronouncements on the Middle East is nauseating.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/05/the-kingdom-in-the-closet/305774/

And how easy is it to be lesbian in Mea Sharim or Bnei Brak ? Really tolerant, are they ?

“Meathead” becomes worse than “Archie”.

Whodathunkit?

>> My Jewish and my pro-Israel friends say to me sometimes, How would you fare as a gay man in any of these [Middle East societies]–?

Zio-supremacists are strange: When they aren’t reaching back 1,500 years for examples of injustice and immorality with which to attempt to defend their supremacist “Jewish State’s” past and on-going, 20th and 21st century acts of immorality and injustice, they’re proudly comparing their supremacist “Jewish State” to the worst of the worst in modern-day states (Saudi Arabia, Mali and African “hell-holes”).

These guys think that Jews (altacockers?) rule the world, or should. And in the USA they are not far wrong — recent political and social and business experience in the USA backs up this racist (and triumphalist) idea.

But what undergirds it — this is truly remarkable — appeears to be an (old, rich) Jewish communal assumption — that in earlier days would not have been revealed in public but which they are revealing by having a conversation in public the content of which is as if it were a private conversation among Jews.

And what is this formerly private (among Jews) but now public assumption? First, that it is OK to say that Palestinians and other Arabs do not matter, do not deserve human rights, self-determination, etc. And, of course, the idea of Israel uber alles.

And second — because this discussion is blatant and public — the newer thought that non-Jewish Americans are invisible, must listen to these ideas contrary to American decent and democratic ideals, must acquiesce in their trashing of human rights, their assumption of primal importance for Israel (and for Jews).

These guys (Reiner, King) think they’ve got America by the b*lls and they flaunt it. That’s part of the message of this conversation. How long will it take Americans to realize this? (Absolute power currupts absolutely.)

They do not speak for me.

@Phil

I’m all for the right of self determination including the right of the Palestinians to elect Hamas to represent their interests. Rob Reiner is dead wrong on this.

The problem with David Norris in the speech you quote is he is doing precisely what he is accusing the Israelis of. He is proposing that the Israeli ambassador (I’d assume Boaz Modai though he never directly names him) not be able to negotiate with Ireland on behalf of Israel because Modai is faithfully representing the positions of a government Norris disagrees with. Either you believe in self determination or you don’t. If you do, then Modai’s job is to represent the Netanyahu government in Ireland, period. If you don’t then you throw the ambassador out because he is an “apologist for war criminals”. Norris doesn’t. He is a hypocrite.