When I was a young journalist we said that three instances make a trend. This trend is about public figures seeing the Holocaust resonating in the Gaza conflict. First, Senator Elizabeth Warren spoke at Tufts University on September 15 and was asked about Israel/Palestine and the Holocaust.
Questioner: “Eva Mosley, I’m not a student, I’m not an alumna, but I was a faculty wife. I was also a Holocaust refugee and I’m extremely concerned that Jews don’t do to another people what was done to them–”
Applause, cheers.
Warren: “I think that’s fair.”
Mosley: “You recently said that you believe that Israel has the right to self-defense. Do you also believe that the Palestinians have a right to self-defense?”
Warren: “Of course. So, and the answer is yes. The direction we ought to be moving is not toward more war. The direction we need to be moving, as I said, I believe we need to move to a two-state solution where both peoples can be secure and safe within their own borders. So, I’m there.”
The real news here is that folks cheered Mosley’s concern and Warren says Palestinians have a right to self-defense. Note that Warren has run away from this issue in recent weeks, and been widely ridiculed on the left. (Daniel Halper got to her Tufts speech first, Weekly Standard.)
Next, here’s Deborah Lipstadt, the scholar of the Holocaust, who will address the topic of anti-Semitism at Yale tonight, speaking at the Hampstead Synagogue in London last Thursday. From the Camden New Journal:
she criticised Israel over its conduct of its war on Gaza.
The professor told the more than 300 guests – among them many leading members of the Jewish community, including survivors of the Holocaust – that the Israel government had “cheapened” the memory of the Nazi Holocaust against the Jews by using it to justify the war on the Palestinians. She also seemed to liken the war as an act of “genocide” against the Palestinians.
Her barb came at the end of a talk on the danger of the memory of the Holocaust being lost as the last survivors died.
I’m afraid there is no more precision in the quotes at that link. Maybe she’ll explain herself tonight. Update: Lipstadt has now said that Gaza was not genocide.
But check this out: scholar Simon Schama on twitter is not above using the Holocaust to justify Israel’s slaughter of Gazans.
Jews lost one million children, one million in Holocaust none of which belonged to communities firing rockets and digging death tunnels
Notice “death tunnels.” Ala “death camps.” Jim Benham responds:
Here is a warning label for zionism. It makes very smart men like Schama say and believe stupid things.
Schama is a disgrace.
And this use of the Jewish experience in WW2 as the epitome of human depravity is wrong. Stalin killed far more people, as did Mao. Genghis Khan was no wallflower either.
WW2 is over. Get with the program. And killing Palestinian civilians won’t bring any dead Jews back to life.
Interesting that Zionists can’t ever countenance justice- everything has to be compared to WW2. Civil rights not possible because of WW2 because the Nazis were worse than civil rights . Bullshit.
The direction we need to be moving, as I said, I believe we need to move to a two-state solution where both peoples can be secure and safe within their own borders. So, I’m there.” –
This is crap. the 2SS is dead.
Warren also believes in apple pie, moms and pigs in space.
Schama tweets like a pro-nazi sympathizer and he doesn’t even notice it.
what Schama is saying European Jews were like sheep being led to the slaughter (like good people) and then goes on to say the Palestinians are savages for resisting occupation (like bad people).
zionism has rotted this man’s brain. when an ‘ism’ gets this bad it’s no longer an ideology but a neurolgical disorder.
I’m so pleased that Sen. Warren seems to have turned an important corner. She was formerly so staunch an AIPAC puppet (or, let’s more charitably say, a convinced supporter of Israel no-matter-what). She cannot be innocent enough not to know what AIPAC and its friends in the political funding world will do. Therefore she is either brave and martyr-ish, or else sees a corner before her other colleagues do.
Schama stinks. Someone should ask him if the fact that Warsaw ghetto fighters attacked Nazis gave Hitler the right to kill whatever children were then present within the ghetto. The trouble with off-the-cuff remarks (here, Schama’s, and maybe mine) is that there is no back-and-forth for CONSIDERED analysis of the SOUND-BYTE.
None of this is going to matter in the end. The holocaust isnt going to matter. The few feeble words for Gaza and Palestine by corrupt politicians isnt going to matter.
This is what is going to matter and determine the final disposition of Israel, Palestine and the US…… and its now filtering down from Bacevich to the net influencers to the public.
Andrew Bacevich said it several years ago–the Israeli client state takeover of the imperial US power is “unprecedented in all of history”
https://storify.com/billmon1/the-strange-case-of-amerisrael-1
Billmon …”In effect, old “duel loyalty” charge is obsolete. There is only 1 loyalty now: to a consolidated Israeli-American national security state”
“”This is an unprecedented historical situation: a tiny client state has acquired total control over an imperial power.””
That’s the entire enchilada.’
When this blows up, and it eventually will, it will literally ‘rock the world. ‘
The fact that the power structures cant see or perhaps dont care what this will end in shows you how completely delusional and removed from the reality ‘of human populaces” both Israel and the US government are.