Update: Why did Netanyahu respond to chickenshit with ‘grassy knoll’ remark?

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(Update below regarding possible mistranslation from Hebrew~A.R.)

Wading through all the chickensh*t over the last few days Netanyahu’s “grassy knoll” comeback somehow missed out on all the action, but what the hoot guys? Where I come from that terminology only means one thing, as far as I know, that applies to the lexicon anywhere in America, if not the world. Hey, even Google agrees with me. And what are the chances Netanyahu and/or his speechwriters don’t know this? Nada. Impossible.

Why would Netanyahu make a reference to one of the most alarming chapters in American history, the assassination of a beloved American president? And for many, an assassination still shrouded in mystery and deceit? I just thought it was very weird. Where is our press?

Winding down after scrutinizing, dissecting and eviscerating Goldberg’s now infamous Chickensh*t article, Justin Raimondo, in The Chickenshit Lobby Is Mad As Hell– but just how mad are they? makes the argument had a leader of Iran slipped “grassy knoll” into a message to an American president the press would have gone bonkers. I agree.

What’s surprising is how Netanyahu, in a speech to the Knesset, took the opportunity to answer his critics in the Obama administration: “Netanyahu angrily insisted he was ‘under attack simply for defending Israel,’ adding that he ‘cherished’ Israel’s relationship with the US.”

The famously combative Israeli Prime Minister went on to say:

“When there are pressures on Israel to concede its security, the easiest thing to do is to concede. You get a round of applause, ceremonies on grassy knolls, and then come the missiles and the tunnels.”

Bibi, who spent many years in the United States, is surely cognizant of what his “grassy knoll” reference connotes. You can argue it was just an infelicitous phrase, or that Bibi was referring to himself, not Obama. Maybe so. But what if, say, an Iranian official, even a low-ranking one, had said such a thing? The uproar would be deafening. And so the question must be asked: was Bibi threatening the President of the United States?

If we take seriously Goldberg’s depiction of the poisoned relationship between Bibi and Obama, the possibility can’t be completely dismissed.

Do you think anyone at the White House noticed Netanyahu’s phraseology? Me too. So why the silence from the press? Grassy knoll, it only means one thing here in America:

Screehshot of Google "grassy knoll"

It only means one thing. Screehshot of Google “grassy knoll”

Netanyahu is widely faulted for helping to incite Rabin assassination, marching in a rally where guys were holding up a coffin for Rabin.

Update:

Several of our commenters indicated to us the translation of Netanyahu’s speech at the Knesset was a mistranslation and the accurate translation from Hebrew is “lawn”. The terminology in the translation (“grassy knoll”) reported at the Guardian, embedded at Raimondo’s article as well as our article, matches that used by Barak Ravid and Jonathan Lis in their coverage of Netanyahu’s Knesset speech in Haaretz , published on October 29.  Although the Haaretz link became unavailable when I tried to access it yesterday after publication of our article, it is currently still accessible:

Speaking to Knesset hours after a senior U.S. official was quoted calling him a “chickenshit prime minister,” Netanyahu told Knesset: “When there are pressures on Israel to concede its security, the easiest thing to do is to concede. You get a round of applause, ceremonies on grassy knolls, and then come the missiles and the tunnels.”

Moreover, the terminology “grassy knolls” was heavily replicated and repeated (thousands of times) over the last 3 days in numerous articles:

Screenshot Oct.31, 2014

Screenshot Oct.31, 2014

If this is in fact, a mistranslation of the words used by Netanyahu in his speech, we apologize for adding to any confusion generated by the terminology of “grassy knolls”. We will be following up on this story and expect a retraction from Haaretz and the Guardian if a mistranslation is in fact the case. ~AR

Nov.2, Update:

Haaretz has now edited their article altering the translated part of Netanyahu’s speech that previous read  “grassy knolls” and replaced it with “well-kept lawns”:

Netanyahu told Knesset: “When there are pressures on Israel to concede its security, the easiest thing to do is to concede. You get a round of applause, ceremonies on well-kept lawns, and then come the missiles and the tunnels.”

However, there was no retraction, explanation nor reference to an altercation of (mis)translation.

(H/t David Doppler)

151 Responses

  1. just
    October 31, 2014, 5:01 pm

    When I read that in The Guardian the other day I felt more than a bit ill.

    I am glad that you and Justin have picked up on it. There is no way in hades that he did not know what he was saying.

    Everybody who speaks English to any degree and remembers or has even read of the assassination knows about the “grassy knoll”.

    He doesn’t even bother thinly veiling his junk anymore.

    • just
      October 31, 2014, 5:03 pm

      He behaves and speaks like a crime boss of a worldwide syndicate.

      • just
        October 31, 2014, 5:12 pm

        Though I love your graphic, the difference is of course that Obama did not say c/s. Netanyahu SPOKE the words in his speech of retaliation. This should offend every single American.

        But I get it.

      • lysias
        October 31, 2014, 5:16 pm

        Of course, we don’t know who said “chickenshit”. Wouldn’t it be great if it had been Obama? (Although personally I strongly suspect it was Biden. Seems more in character for him. And I doubt if stuffed shirt Kerry would have made his prissy criticism of the language if it had been Obama.)

      • Annie Robbins
        October 31, 2014, 5:22 pm

        just, i can’t take credit for the (great!) graphic. it was posted on twitter, with that exact caption.

        EDIT: i’ve added an update to the main post and i urge everyone to read it.

      • just
        October 31, 2014, 5:41 pm

        your headline makes it clear, Annie.

        thanks again.

      • Annie Robbins
        October 31, 2014, 9:22 pm

        and thank you just. i love your energy.

  2. a blah chick
    October 31, 2014, 5:02 pm

    “So why the silence from the press?”

    Because the media elites control the agenda and they try to overlook anything that makes Israeli leaders look bad.

  3. lysias
    October 31, 2014, 5:07 pm

    And don’t forget all the indications that Israel and its supporters were involved in the conspiracy to assassinate JFK. The evidence is discussed quite fully in Col. John Hugh-Wilson’s JFK: An American Coup D’etat: The Truth Behind the Kennedy Assassination

    • seafoid
      October 31, 2014, 5:37 pm

      I think that is what he meant

      • lysias
        October 31, 2014, 5:40 pm

        If it is what he meant, let us hope that the U.S. government takes this as its opportunity to reveal the truth about the assassination to the American public. Although somehow I doubt if it will. The oxen of too many important institutions — like the CIA and the Pentagon — would also be gored.

    • geokat62
      November 2, 2014, 8:19 am

      … or the evidence provided by Michael Collins Piper in his book, ‘Final Judgment’.

      Click the link below for a free pdf copy:

      link to grizzom.blogspot.ca

  4. yonah fredman
    October 31, 2014, 5:11 pm

    If Bibi made his comments to the knesset as reported, then the comments were made in Hebrew and the translator would be the one who translated the Hebrew into the words “grassy knoll”. if the comments were made to a reporter in the Knesset, then if the reporter spoke to him in English he would have responded in english. The circumstance is not clear.

    • lysias
      October 31, 2014, 5:15 pm

      Unless Bibi used the English words in his comments in Hebrew.

    • just
      October 31, 2014, 5:17 pm

      oh. come. on.

      What’s hebrew for ‘grassy knoll’?

      • just
        October 31, 2014, 5:22 pm

        oh here it is:

        תלולית דשא

      • Denis
        November 1, 2014, 4:09 pm

        That’s looking at it 180 backwards, just. The point is what Hebrew term did Bibi use and how is that term translated to English.

        Look at the context. The phrase “ceremonies on grassy knolls” makes no sense either within the context of the statement or as a threat. Whereas, “ceremonies on lawns” is a clear reference to being feted on the WH lawn when you’re on the good side of USG, which is what Bibi was barking about.

        I mean, c’mon folks, if a reference to “grassy knoll” is to be taken as a threat against a president, the Secret Service would be knocking on every third door in the country.

        What’s next? “Theater box?”

    • Annie Robbins
      October 31, 2014, 5:34 pm

      yonah, the quote traveled around the world. had it been inaccurate there could have been a retraction. let me know if you found one. grassy knoll in hebrew is still grassy knoll. what exactly is your point? that it’s the translators fault? seriously!

      • Kay24
        November 1, 2014, 7:14 am

        When one of their own looks bad, or says something questionable, there are plenty of justifications and explanations, when it is comes to the goyim, oy vey, the sky is falling.

    • Anon y Mouse
      October 31, 2014, 5:55 pm

      Zionists. Sigh. link to note.io

      • Annie Robbins
        October 31, 2014, 5:59 pm

        wonder of wonders, even when you google it in hebrew guess what pops up! (spoiler alert “kennedy assassination”)

        link to translate.google.com

        you think if we google it in french it would be the same? what about japanese?

    • Elliot
      October 31, 2014, 7:45 pm

      Yonah’s question deserves an answer. If Netanyahu made this statement in a speech to the Knesset, as the report holds, he would have been speaking in Hebrew. Had he said “grassy knoll” in English, I think that would have been conveyed somehow.
      The context is clearly referring to something like the White House lawn where Mid-East peace treaties are famously signed.
      Since nobody has shown the evidence, Yonah’s question stands.

      • Annie Robbins
        October 31, 2014, 8:23 pm

        haaretz reported it too link to haaretz.com

        elliot, what part of yonah’s remark stands? even in hebrew the term is used to describe kennedy’s assassination. unless maybe you can find us another source in hebrew using the term “grassy knoll” without reference to kennedy. start searching!

        ps, and as far as i know the WH lawn doesn’t have any grassy knolls. i think the context is cryptic but either he used that phrase or not. i can’t imagine a translator or reporter just sticking that in. one would have to live under a rock to not know what the term means.

      • Mooser
        October 31, 2014, 9:42 pm

        I think the “ceremonies on a grassy knoll” is a reference to Itzak Rabin, and his assassination.

        “When there are pressures on Israel to concede its security, the easiest thing to do is to concede,” he said. “You get a round of applause, ceremonies on grassy knolls…”

      • Annie Robbins
        October 31, 2014, 9:45 pm

        omg, the haaretz link that was just there has now been scrubbed! i went back to where i found it originally and it’s been scrubbed there too. but i found it on the twitter page and took a screenshot of it(on the google page) . i think they are trying to erase evidence of it.

        right now it looks like this on google

        Netanyahu responds to U.S.: I am under attack for … – Haaretz
        link to haaretz.com
        Haaretz
        3 days ago – … the easiest thing to do is to concede. You get a round of applause, ceremonies on grassy knolls, and then come the missiles and the tunnels.”.

        btw, the end of that link after the “news/” is “news/diplomacy-defense/1.623356”

      • DaBakr
        October 31, 2014, 11:39 pm

        @elliot-exactly. grassy knoll as in: where arafat and barak shook hands is the image conjured up by bn statement, not the kennedy assassination for cripes sakes. unless your batshit crazy and jew-paranoid what on earth would netanyahu possibly gain by referencing the kennedy shooting? the false hopes of the ‘peace’ handshake on the grassy knoll of the whitehouse is much more appropriate if one wants to ascribe ulterior motives to the pm. now-if he had made reference to “atlanta” or other mlk points I could see the cause for the near hysteria here. but I guess you conspiracy buffs think netanyahu is somehow implying that a plot involving the mob, anti-communists and cia/mossad spooks is the potential ‘payback’ for calling him chickenshit. now go look in the mirror and see if you don’t laugh. as ludicrous and stupid as “aspergery”

      • Annie Robbins
        November 1, 2014, 2:34 am

        grassy knoll as in: where arafat and barak shook hands

        let’s get one thing straight, grassy knoll only means one thing.

        what on earth would netanyahu possibly gain by referencing the kennedy shooting?

        well, his audience was the knesset. don’t they have a lot of feiglin types there? isn’t netanyahu always pandering to the settlers… that one saying all the palestinian mothers should get genocided too? yuk. obama is not well loved in the knesset. maybe there are a few normalish types there, but they sure are not making the news lately. link to mondoweiss.net

        anyway, i am waiting on bated breath to hear haaretz explanation for their translation.

      • Shingo
        November 1, 2014, 8:01 am

        The context is clearly referring to something like the White House lawn where Mid-East peace treaties are famously signed

        SInce when has the White House lawn ever been referred to as a grassy knoll in English or Hebrew?

        Yonah’s question is BS.

      • DaBakr
        November 1, 2014, 8:19 am

        @annie “lets get one thing straight”

        A) Netanyahu never said “grassy knoll” I heard the speech, it was in hebrew and he said “on lawns”. And even if he had said what was reported to context was still an allusion to ceremonies on whitehouse lawns-NOT Texas lawns in 1963. sheesh.

      • catporn
        November 1, 2014, 8:43 am

        Sorry, if you say grassy knoll, I know what your talking about, if you said White House lawn, I’d get that too, but I’ve never confused the two. We’re talking Mount Everest and the River Ganges here, two distinct geographical entities that have there own connotations and images attached.
        Btw, I’m not American and wasn’t even born when Kennedy was assassinated, unlike Bibi who is of age and American, as are one or two (can’t remember) Israeli politicians, press, population etc, etc.

    • Shmuel
      October 31, 2014, 8:54 pm

      The Hebrew word Netanyahu used was מדשאות – lawn(s) – a clear reference to the White House lawn (called מדשאות הבית הלבן in Hebrew).

      link to haaretz.co.il

      • Annie Robbins
        October 31, 2014, 11:08 pm

        shmuel, i’m not so sure what’s going on since haaretz scrubbed their link.

      • Annie Robbins
        October 31, 2014, 11:17 pm

        this was also reported in the guardian, which is still up. it was also reported in FP, linking to the guardian. there are pages and pages of references to the quote on google, repeated all over the world…before Justin Raimondo’s article. this is why i think someone has some explaining to do. if in fact it was a bad translation, none the less it was in print for days and days unchallenged.

        i have written phil and adam. not sure how do deal with this wrt any update. it’s late on the east coast. but i don’t think it was irresponsible asking about this given the dearth of repetition that quote has gotten. if it’s wrong, who coined the phrase and why weren’t they called out on it?

      • just
        October 31, 2014, 11:24 pm

        surprise/not.

        scrambling and scrubbing to do!

      • Jethro
        November 1, 2014, 12:34 am

        I seriously doubt Modern Hebrew has a word for “knoll,” as separate from “lawn” or “hill,” for instance. It’s a fairly new language with about 80,000 words, whereas English has about 1,000,000 words.

        I think the person we want to look at is the translator…

      • Shmuel
        November 1, 2014, 5:34 am

        Annie,

        Since this is such a weird translation of what Netanyahu said, it obviously all comes from a single source. I don’t know whether Guardian Jerusalem correspondent Peter Beaumont speaks Hebrew, but I’m guessing he took the translated quote from Haaretz (I didn’t find any official translation or press release) and, not being an American or a JFK conspiracy theory aficionado, paid no attention to the expression (I had never heard of it either).

        As for the translator, it might have been as simple as opening the popular online dictionary Morfix, seeing that one of the translations offered for מדשאה is “grassy area” and deciding that “grassy knoll” sounds more idiomatic.

      • Walid
        November 1, 2014, 6:49 am

        I also think that too much is being made of the grassy/knoll story. Netanyahu has enough other shit to his credit with which he could be easily and justifiably crucified without anyone having to scrape the bottom of the barrel with this non-issue.

      • Annie Robbins
        November 1, 2014, 2:37 pm

        shmuel (and everyone) i have added an update to the story and also tweeted david ravid from haaretz (not that he will respond to a tweet from me) to ask him if he stands by the translation. i could have misjudged the situation.

      • Shmuel
        November 1, 2014, 3:54 pm

        Thanks, Annie. Ravid writes in Hebrew and his articles are translated by the English edition staff, but he might take some interest in how his article was translated, especially if the translation gave rise to a misunderstanding — picked up by other outlets (assuming Haaretz English edition was the source).

    • traintosiberia
      November 1, 2014, 12:04 am

      Did he ( chickenshit) hebrewize the words missile and tunnel also?
      Why the indirect but dangerous assertion of ” conceding ” for ” applause” followed by the threat of implicit violent reversal? How does an unwilling partner reverse a decision he doesn’t like? Does the missile play a role in his ( chickenshit) mind?

      Obama’s life was threatened by jewish man an Atlanta based editor . Majority of Israeli want to send Ebola virus to Obama .

    • Annie Robbins
      November 1, 2014, 2:40 pm

      yonah, on reflection i should have taken your comment/concern more seriously. see update in main post.

      • yonah fredman
        November 1, 2014, 7:18 pm

        annie- It is difficult to assess a bad translation, when someone else did the translating of a language one does not speak. Not everything one reads on the internet is true and this was a case of that.

        But I will refer back to this post and the comments as proof of the tendency of MW commentators to pile on, rather than step back and coolly assess. Quite a few people here said nasty words regarding Israel and Netanyahu (and me) and now that it is clear that the translation was at fault, they are nowhere to be heard in terms of fessing to the false basis for their reactions.

      • Annie Robbins
        November 1, 2014, 8:52 pm

        when someone else did the translating of a language one does not speak. Not everything one reads on the internet is true and this was a case of that.

        yonah, i would be surprised to find out haaretz uses non native/fluent speakers for their translations. i assumed there are so many american-israeli dual citizens, or british/australians that they wouldn’t need to use people not fluent in both languages. also, haaretz is not just an online publication, it’s a respected msm source in israel. there was no reason to assume their translation was incorrect, i though primarily, because it had not been corrected for 3 days.

        also, given the fact that the government of israel continually lies with impunity including their penchant for doctoring video and audio footage as has been documented time and again that, for me, assuming their allegations are correct, is simply not an option (ever). which is not to say it is not correct, to reiterate, it means to assume it is correct is not an option i would ever consider given the source (always question liars).

        so, i started out not even questioning the translation by a respected msm news source (2 actually) because it didn’t occur to me. then, when i heard it was perhaps the translation, i found that outlandish because i assumed someone would have noticed given the alarming nature of the alleged mistranslation (on heavily traffic’d sites). it was only after this was brought to my attention i went to the gov website and read the official translation, but since it had been 3 days i could not be certain the gov translation was accurate. and, given it was not delivered as a public speech but one inside the knesset, i just wasn’t sure. i’m still not sure frankly. when i see a retraction from either haaretz or the guardian then i will have more certainty. that’s my personal opinion (after “step back and coolly assess”). but these things (video-audio) are easy enough to edit. very easy in fact. i would be more likely to trust a live video recorded on a cell phone than an israeli gov official video. and for me, given the choice, it is not clear the translation was at fault.

      • yonah fredman
        November 2, 2014, 8:52 pm

        annie- are you doubting the veracity of the hebrew offered on the knesset website? are you doubting the translating ability of shmuel. it seems to be that there is no one you ARE depending upon except your ability to be contrary.

        i am sure haaretz pays peanuts and for peanuts they might get the services of some incompetent. i doubt malice played a major part in this mistranslation. but then again you don’t know hebrew and you are operating in the dark, especially when you are willing to ignore the translation offered by shmuel. i think you are being contrary, just to be contrary.

      • Annie Robbins
        November 2, 2014, 9:28 pm

        yonah, had the speech been broadcast live and had it matched the transcript that day or had i read it on that first day i may not have been as suspicious. but by the time i read it, and shmuel read it, it was already 3 days old. i never once doubted shmuel’s translation. i doubted whether the video-audio of the speech had been messed with after the fact.

        for example, remember after the mavi marmara how they didn’t just release the video immediately. they waited over a day. so it was the timing.

        are you doubting the veracity of the hebrew offered on the knesset website?

        sometimes WH transcripts are not entirely accurate either. if i had to bet my life on trusting whether the knesset transcripts were always accurate and never altered or sometimes altered i would bet they are sometimes altered.

        anyway, i updated again (this morning). haaretz has now altered their translation to “well kept lawn”. i was hoping haaretz would leave a little note about their altered text. but they didn’t, they just changed the wording.

        you are operating in the dark

        we operate in the dark with israel all the time. it’s a stab in the dark sometimes figuring out what the truth is. but sometimes it’s transparent, for example, when they tortured that guy to death in 4 days last year (the one they picked him up at home and told him to say goodbye to his kids forever) and then claimed he died of a heart attack and not torture, well, i think there is a 99.99999999% chance the isr gov was lying. but it’s not always that transparent.

        it was just one of the first things i learned as a child (i remember how i learned it too but i won’t bore you with stories of myself as a child) but the lesson was once you lie people will never trust you, and if people don’t trust you you won’t have any friends and it will make it hard for people to love you. one of the outcomes of that lesson is that i don’t trust liars (consider it my personal quirk). the gov of israel lies and cheats and steals all the time. over and over, so please do not lecture me on being contrary.

        newsflash, wrt the gov of israel, of COURSE i will be contrary. with some exceptions (a few no doubt), israel gov officials are liars and thieves. many murderers too, and war criminals! i put nothing past them, nothing. albeit, few are as deceptive and rotten to the core as dick cheney.

        anyway, i’m sort of done with discussing this. one of pts point still stands, had this been iran president saying it, even if it was a mistranslation of the text, it would have been plastered all over the news immediately. don’t you think? that quote wouldn’t have been all over the press for three days and just ignored.

      • yonah fredman
        November 3, 2014, 12:42 pm

        annie- When I will come back to this issue I will return to two items: the curious mistranslation and the outlandish response of MW. If the past lies of Israel turn you into something other than a journalist, which seems to me to be the case here, then you are not a journalist, period. what that other is- activist, propagandist, i will not say, but clearly this column used journalistic methods, but at bottom was not a journalistic effort.

  5. lysias
    October 31, 2014, 5:36 pm

    I’ve posted this twice on this forum in the past couple of days, but I think it belongs here too:

    Bibi’s shrink killed himself in 2010 because he was despondent over having failed to cure Bibi of his delusional thinking. Psychiatrist of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Commits Suicide :

    The first of Yatom’s strokes occurred when Netanyahu offered his opinion that the 911 attacks on Washington and New York “were good.” The second followed a session in which Netanyahu insisted that Iran and Nazi Germany were identical. And the third occurred after the Prime Minister declared Iran’s nuclear energy program was a “flying gas chamber,” and that all Jews everywhere “lived permanently in Auschwitz.” Yatom’s efforts to calm Netanyahu’s hysteria were extremely taxing emotionally and routinely ended in failure. “The alibi is always the same with him,” complained another diary entry. “The Jews are on the verge of annihilation at the hands of the racist goyim and the only way to save the day is to carry out one final massacre.”

    That kind of mentality might well stop at nothing.

    • Annie Robbins
      October 31, 2014, 6:03 pm

      oh, i can’t stop laughing. i know it’s not supposed to be funny but i just can’t stop laughing. omg.. that’s horrible..of me. omg

      are you sure that’s not political satire?

      • lysias
        October 31, 2014, 6:54 pm

        Looking at the comments on the site the story comes from, I see it probably is political satire. Sure had me fooled.

        Si ce n’est vrai, c’est bien trouvé.

      • seafoid
        October 31, 2014, 7:13 pm

        I thought that article was satire but if you google the psy’s name it seems he was a real person.

      • Mooser
        October 31, 2014, 7:49 pm

        “Si ce n’est vrai, c’est bien trouvé.”

        Me too. I regret nothing.

      • Mooser
        October 31, 2014, 7:54 pm

        “i know it’s not supposed to be funny”

        Hey, I didn’t know Elie Wiesel is, or was, the president of ELAD, maybe I missed the news about Netanayahoo’s poor shrink.

      • traintosiberia
        November 1, 2014, 12:41 am

        But it is also very relevant. This is a warning to any physician planning to correct the physical or mental deficits of this deranged psychopath.
        This can be even stretched further – this man and his nation can’t be treated by conventional means
        From Balfour to Bush ,everything has been tried by so many to satiate the beast . But it wants more .Psychitrist is representing the west .. Sucide of America is the likely possibility . One can see the anguish and helplessness throughout the administration.

    • just
      October 31, 2014, 6:08 pm

      yeah, and he has nukes. and Israel elects him.

      go figure.

    • lysias
      October 31, 2014, 6:37 pm

      Somebody with this mentality might be provoked to do something crazy just to show he’s not chickenshit. Having delivered this implicit threat, he might feel obliged to carry it out.

      • Mooser
        October 31, 2014, 7:14 pm

        Will nobody rid Netanyahoo of this turbulent President?

    • DaBakr
      October 31, 2014, 11:44 pm

      your a fool if you think thats a serious article. or at least you should be ashamed to have been fooled so easily.

      • catporn
        November 1, 2014, 9:15 am

        Does anyone feel ashamed? ;))

      • Mooser
        November 1, 2014, 12:13 pm

        “your a fool if you think thats a serious article. or at least you should be ashamed to have been fooled so easily.”

        Gosh, Dabakr, thanks. I don’t know what I was so worked up about. Given Israel’s 60-year record of honest-dealing, compromise, cooperation and rigid transigence, and complete abhorrence of violence, and Israel’s unblemished record of peaceful relations with everybody, I don’t know what I was worried about.

      • amigo
        November 1, 2014, 12:16 pm

        “your a fool if you think thats a serious article. or at least you should be ashamed to have been fooled so easily” dabakr

        What could be more foolish than a tribe of people believing they are chosen and the recipients of vast swathes of real estate.

      • MRW
        November 1, 2014, 3:59 pm

        amigo,

        “your a fool if you think thats a serious article. or at least you should be ashamed to have been fooled so easily” dabakr

        What could be more foolish than a tribe of people believing they are chosen and the recipients of vast swathes of real estate.

        What could be more foolish than a bunch of people from a bunch of different countries calling themselves a tribe believing . . . .

    • catporn
      November 1, 2014, 9:12 am

      The funniest humour is that closest to the bone!

  6. seafoid
    October 31, 2014, 5:39 pm

    Netanyahu and his Israeli neediness- it’s not enough to have the 4th most powerful army in the world. It’s not enough to have sovereignty- they need cover for the shit diplomatic calls they make. And Americans above all have to understand Israel. If you don’t tell them you love them and that they are special they fall apart and ask for more money.

    This kind of person in a relationship usually doesn’t make it to a significant wedding anniversary without getting divorced.

  7. Kay24
    October 31, 2014, 6:29 pm

    The mere fact that Netanyahu represents a very dangerous nation, that has mastered the art of deception, and operates in the most insidious ways, tells us that whatever is said publicly should be given some deep thought, and that they are totally capable of using veiled threats and dark hints to convey their message. Their chickshit PM is totally comfortable with American culture and terms, and we should not put it past him to use words that he knows is understood in our nation.

  8. Kay24
    October 31, 2014, 6:52 pm

    Okay guys, as expected we now apologize, and grovel, and make sure we don’t face their wrath:

    “U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry called Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday night to express his regret over the remarks made against the Israeli premier this week in The Atlantic.” Haaretz

    Chickenshit must have smirked and said ” We always control America and they know it”

    • just
      October 31, 2014, 7:07 pm

      I’d prefer if he’d called the family of Orwah Hammad and made the PM do the same:

      “Orwah had American citizenship and the family deserved better treatment from the U.S. government, his father said.

      “They started to call me from the [American] consulate, and they said we need to come down and just offer our condolences, and they were supposed to come down, I think, three days ago.”

      They didn’t come that day — and have not since, Khalek said.

      “It’s hard to explain to you my feelings on the inside, but I’m so disappointed at my government and in their actions,” he said. ”

      link to nbcnews.com

      I guess we have our priorities straight.

      • Kay24
        October 31, 2014, 7:30 pm

        That would have been ignored completely by the WH and so far the media has not mentioned it.
        If this was North Korea or Iran the response would have been very different.
        Israel can do whatever heck it wants, the US will whisper their disapproval and send them more
        weapons. Sheesh.

  9. David Doppler
    October 31, 2014, 7:32 pm

    Thanks for the h/t, Annie. That graphic is great.

    And thanks lysias for the insight into Netanyahu’s shrink. The fearful fear-monger, leading his fearful people from one crime to the next, and with a heavy enough hand to contemplate the unspeakable.

  10. just
    October 31, 2014, 7:37 pm

    o/t– apologies if it’s been posted before, but i found this when i went to listen to Assaf for some relief and pleasure:

    “Mohammed Assaf, the winner of Arab Idol in 2013 has been voted the Best Middle East Act at the 2014 MTV European Music Awards (EMA). Assaf released his debut album ASSAF last week.

    The 2014 MTV EMA will be broadcast live from Glasgow to more than 60 MTV channels around the world on Sunday, November 9 at 9pm CET and in the UAE on November 10 at 1am KSA. The awards show has a global reach of nearly 700 million households. ”

    link to thenational.ae

    • Annie Robbins
      October 31, 2014, 9:54 pm

      that’s fantastic news! he also became eligible to be in the Worldwide Act nominees

      Out of nearly 300 potential Worldwide Act noms, just 35 advanced to round 2 of voting, when EMA voters selected their regional representative in the Worldwide Act race. And now, those 10 final nominees have been announced!

      link to tv.mtvema.com

      and he made it in the top 10 ;)

      Africa/India/Middle East: Mohammed Assaf
      Australia/New Zealand: 5 Seconds of Summer
      Europe Central: Revolverheld
      Europe East: Dawid Kwiatkowski
      Europe North: One Direction
      Europe South: Alessandra Amoroso
      Japan/Korea: B.A.P
      Latin America: Dulce Maria
      North America: Fifth Harmony
      Southeast Asia/China & Hong Kong/Taiwan:Bibi Zhou

      Voting is open until 11:59PM CET on Saturday 8 November—that’s less than a day before the big show broadcasts from Glasgow at 9pm CET on Sunday 9 November! So get to clicking and tapping…this is your chance to take your favourite artist all the way to the top of the world!

      • just
        November 1, 2014, 9:22 am

        makes me so happy for him, and for all of the Palestinians.

  11. pabelmont
    October 31, 2014, 7:42 pm

    Guardian: Speaking to the Israeli parliament – the Knesset – a few hours after the comments were revealed, Netanyahu angrily insisted he was “under attack simply for defending Israel”, adding that he “cherished” Israel’s relationship with the US.

    “When there are pressures on Israel to concede its security, the easiest thing to do is to concede,” he said. “You get a round of applause, ceremonies on grassy knolls, and then come the missiles and the tunnels.”

    I’m curious: Was he speaking in English or in Hebrew to the Knesset? Are we dealing with translation here, and if so is there only ONE translation for whatever the PM said? For example, maybe at the time of the Kennedy assassination,some translation was made into Hebrew which has never been used for any other purpose.

    • yonah fredman
      November 2, 2014, 8:45 pm

      I’m curious: was he speaking in english or in hebrew to the knesset? pabelmont- this shows how foreign israel is to you. the language of the knesset is hebrew. i suppose it is also arabic, but i have never seen or heard any member of the knesset speaking arabic to the knesset. of course if angela merkel or jimmy carter or anwar sadat speaks to the parliament, they speak their native tongues, but bibi’s fluency in english has misled you to think this is a reasonable question. it is not. if a reporter asks bibi a question in english he’d answer it in english, but in speaking before any official body of the knesset he would only speak in hebrew.

  12. RoHa
    October 31, 2014, 7:52 pm

    So if a lone crazed gunman shoots Obama we will know that there is absolutely no connection whatsoever between the shooter and the Urban Moving Systems vans in the neighbourhood.

  13. Blownaway
    October 31, 2014, 7:59 pm

    As with all things having to do with Israel, there is much more than meets the eye. Goldbeg’s article was clearly designed to put Obama and the White House on the defensive at a critical time, was it The Iran deal? Was it Abbas at the UN ( funny I know) the upcoming election? And Netanyahu’s threat ( warning) was clearly part of the context. Just look at the aftermath apologies and groveling all over the place. Yet there was no such expectation when they insulted the U.S. this is all very dirty business.

    • just
      October 31, 2014, 8:07 pm

      “this is all very dirty business” b/c as you say, it has to do with Israel.

      The Guardian has an article about US/Isr/Iran and the Goldberg job.

      “Is the US-Israel relationship in crisis? The prominent journalist Jeffrey Goldberg – the man a White House aide once called the “official therapist” of the relationship – seems to think so.

      But while most coverage of Goldberg’s long article in The Atlantic revolves around an unnamed official calling Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu “chickenshit” – which the Obama administration spent two days disavowing – lost in the pearl-clutching is the insightful look at how Netanyahu’s policies on Iran are a direct affront on American interests.

      Even most of the rest of chatter about the story focused on Israel’s expansion of settlement plans in the West Bank and East Jerusalem as a sore spot in the so-called “special relationship” between the US and Israel. Settlements are certainly an effective test of Israel’s intentions in the peace process (and the US would be remiss to not denounce their expansion as harmful to prospects for peace).

      But while settlement expansion depletes hope for a two-state solution – and exact a price on America’s overall standing in the world – they are hardly as big a problem for the US as Israel’s Iran policies – especially considering Israel’s Iran-related involvement in American domestic politics and, most recently, its utter rejection of diplomatic progress in Iran and a prospective comprehensive nuclear accord.”

      link to theguardian.com

  14. Boomer
    October 31, 2014, 8:36 pm

    I had not seen or heard any mention of this elsewhere in the news. For me, it is a reminder that elements within the U.S. wanted to help Israel’s nuclear program despite Kennedy’s efforts to rein it in. Soon after JFK’s death, nuclear material from a plant in the U.S. made its way to Israel, under circumstances that have never been made clear, although a declassified GAO report provides considerable information: link to original.antiwar.com Whether or not supporters of Israel were involved in killing JFK, the possibility that this was the case . . . like the “ambiguous” existence of Israel’s nuclear arsenal, been something that politicians since then could not ignore. I would interpret this “grassy knoll” remark as a not-so-veiled reminder that such an event has not been unthinkable for the past 50 years.

  15. kalithea
    October 31, 2014, 9:37 pm

    Using grassy knoll in any context where the U.S. is being addressed in some manner is a deliberate attempt to offend, deliver a veiled threat and is typical Israeli bully-talk. On the surface, Netanyahoo pretends to allude to the consequences of Rabin yielding to U.S. pressure, but below the surface he is taking direct aim at Obama from behind a grassy knoll of political deception.

    One should also put Israel’s nuclear activities at the time of Kennedy’s assassination into a context of similar U.S. pressure, but perhaps more relentless and imminently threatening and the options that Israelis considered to deflect and deter such an imminent threat of exposure. Maybe Netanyahoo’s almost flippant and cocky use of this very charged expression betrays that he might know something we don’t know but may have suspected and then quickly dismissed as too outrageous.

    Oh, and grassy knoll is so red hot politically incorrect that it’s impossible for the media not to have picked up on it immediately, but then why would the Zionist media open that closet door?

    • Mooser
      November 1, 2014, 12:18 pm

      Of course, that Lee Harvey Oswald was actually on an upper floor of the Texas Book Depository building, and shot (if indeed he was the man, since he was never tried) and no one has ever proven that shot’s did come from the “grassy knoll” makes this even more delicious.

      But hey, the “grassy knoll” is where Kennedy was shot from, because Oliver Stone says so? Okay.

    • bilal a
      November 2, 2014, 5:15 pm

      “I dont like to mention it but ..”

      We were sharing a pastrami sandwich and pickles at a Los Angeles landmark: Canter’s Deli on Fairfax. I was 24; she was nearly 50 years older, with a piercing voice as loud as her flaming red wig.

      Her name was Eva Rubenstein Grant, and she was a little-known [meyer lansky linked strip] nightclub manager the morning of Nov. 24, 1963, when her brother Jack Ruby left the apartment they shared in Dallas and blasted his way into infamy by fatally shooting Lee Harvey Oswald.

      …Chicago Mafia figures told him Ruby was sent to Texas to run nightclubs that were fronts for illegal gambling operations.

      It was a quintessentially Jewish response, albeit delivered in Eva’s hybrid Chicago-Dallas accent. And the Rubensteins were a staunchly Jewish family, a fact that may have played a role in Ruby’s killing of President John F. Kennedy’s alleged assassin.

      “I was shocked,” Silverman said. “I visited him the next day in jail, and I said, ‘Why, Jack, why?’ He said, ‘I did it for the American people.’ ”

      I interrupted Silverman, pointing out that other reports had Ruby saying he did it “to show that Jews had guts.” The elderly rabbi sighed. “Yes, he mentioned that. But I don’t like to mention it. I think he said, ‘I did it for the Jewish people.’ But I’ve tried to wipe that statement from my mind.”

      link to jewishjournal.com

  16. lonely rico
    October 31, 2014, 9:43 pm

    O/T from the

    ” … official site of Sweden” link to sweden.se

    Discover a country where the moose is king

    And they just recognized Palestine !

    Hmm …

  17. Kay24
    October 31, 2014, 10:41 pm

    The AlJazeera America documentary about the USS Liberty being deliberately bombed by Israel is going on right now. So interesting. They played tapes of never before heard recordings of the Israeli pilots, clearly stating it was an American vessel. What dirty rats.

    • pabelmont
      November 1, 2014, 9:02 am

      Thanks, Kay24! Wish I’d seen it.
      Was this “clearly stating” done in English, or translated by AJ? (My question also about today’s “grassy knoll” statement.)

      • catporn
        November 1, 2014, 10:07 am

        It’s an excellent documentary, I was lucky enough to catch it yesterday.
        link to m.aljazeera.com

      • Kay24
        November 1, 2014, 10:30 am

        It was all in English Pabelmont. It was a mind boggling documentary, which I would recommend to everyone. It shows exactly what we keep talking about TODAY – the power and influence of Israel over the Presidency and Congress, and how Lyndon Johnson was intimidated to keep this quiet, by those close to him (who was also keeping Israel up to date about US acts and thinking, like cheap spies) and how those who were in the USS Liberty was warned against speaking about it to the media. It also shows how the entire episode was watered down deliberately by the White House, and how the poor survivors were not allowed to speak up, and had their eye witness accounts ignored. OMGosh, despite the fact that I knew some of this attack, the tapes they played, and the fact that there was a large American flag, flying on this US spy ship, the “bustards” deliberately attacked and torpedoed us. Great job by AJAmerica, and something we will NEVER see in the zionist media.
        For those who do not have AJA, I got this tip from Reddit on how to access this documentary:

        Steps to watch documentary:
        go to google.
        type in ‘zenmate’
        download zenmate brower app
        After downloaded, there should be a a little green shield on your toolbar
        Click shield
        A box should pop up. In the lower left-hand corner, click ‘Change Location’
        Click ‘London, England’
        Now Al Jazeera will think your IP address is is England, where this video is playable
        Go back to OP’s link and click it
        It will take you back to that page, but now the video is playable

        THE DAY ISRAEL ATTACKED AMERICA is a worthwhile watch.

      • catporn
        November 1, 2014, 10:49 am

        BTW it’s on again tomorrow 6am GMT 2/11/14

      • ritzl
        November 1, 2014, 10:49 am

        Thanks Kay24.

    • Walid
      November 1, 2014, 11:59 am

      Thanks, Kay, learned a lot of new things on what really happened behind the scenes in Washington and how an American President was blackmailed and bribed into snuffing out the incident.

      It helped explain how Israel operates within the US and why the US does nothing about American citizens that Israel kills. It’s spooky how a shitty little country can control a major and powerful nation like the US.

      • Mooser
        November 1, 2014, 12:24 pm

        ” It’s spooky how a shitty little country can control a major and powerful nation like the US.”

        I’ve always felt there were some spooky correspondences between the Israel Lobby and the China Lobby. The Nationalist China Lobby. Okay I wouldn’t go to far with that, but there are some.

      • Kay24
        November 1, 2014, 12:30 pm

        You were able to say nicely exactly what I thought too at the end of the documentary. It clearly shows how, from many years ago, they were able to intimidate and even threaten a US leader, and how until today, that pattern has not changed but is even worse. You are right, it is unbelievable that a shitty, yet diabolical country, has become a curse on our country, and how it has infiltrated into all major positions that is instrumental in controlling our policies.
        It makes us realize we have absolutely no chances of getting rid of this parasite. The lies, deception, and the ability to control how we handle our foreign affairs, even silencing the media, makes this a dire situation, dangerous for all Americans.

    • amigo
      November 1, 2014, 12:30 pm

      Kay 24 , saw it myself.

      Sickening to see American families take second place to Israel,s image even after they deliberately attacked the ship which as the documentary shows they knew was an American vessel.

      • Kay24
        November 1, 2014, 12:31 pm

        We have no freedom of speech when it comes to Israel. It was clear they controlled the message after this attack.

      • Kay24
        November 1, 2014, 4:56 pm

        It is disappointing that the government keeps protecting a deadly criminal over it’s own people.
        Those poor sailors who lost their lives did not get justice, nor did their families feel their loved ones lives were considered far more important than the shielding a pariah nation, who seem to consistently show dishonesty and lies, until they are caught. Then it is the same ole “oops, it was a mistake”. The same can be said about the Rachel Corrie case. Our lives are worthless when it comes to shielding that stinking nation.

    • bilal a
      November 1, 2014, 12:37 pm
  18. ssalbe
    November 1, 2014, 1:34 am

    Annie,

    As someone whose translation have been usd by Philip and others on Modoweiss before for many years I can tell you that it is simply a case of a bad translation. The Knesset protocols for the day are on line at link to knesset.gov.il If you click on the 29 October you get a word document. 19_ptm_30632
    Netnayahu says:
    ל כשיש לחצים על ישראל לוותר על ביטחונה, הכי קל
    לוותר. מקבלים מחיאות כפיים בטקסים על מדשאות, אחר כך באים הטילים והמנהרות.
    My translation would be
    When there pressures upon Israel, the easiest course is to give in, you get applauded on the front lawns, and then the missiles and tunnels would come.
    This is clearly an allusion to the Rabin’s signing the Oslo Accords on the White House front laws. Anything about a grassy knoll would be a faulty translation.

    I hope someone informs Justin Raimondo.

    • JLewisDickerson
      November 1, 2014, 3:04 am

      Your translation makes sense, and sounds more like something Netanyahu might say.

    • Ellen
      November 1, 2014, 7:53 am

      Agreed. It seems a bit too much is being made out of a goofy and unfortunate translation.

      While so many around the world and inside Israel absolutely abhor Netanyahu and his primitive destructive politics, making hay out of this clumsy translation discredits much of the good work and reporting on this site.

      More interesting is that needy Netanyahu and the chattering machine got so worked up about an anonymous school yard taunt strangely reported by a discredited writer.

      • pabelmont
        November 1, 2014, 9:07 am

        Since this was a translation from Hebrew, as I’d imagined (what with it being a speech in Knesset and all), the choice of translations would seem to be wide and the choice of “grassy knoll” where “front lawn” is possible would seem to indicate a DELIBERATE DIRTY TRICK by the translator — UNLESS the phrase is the same that was used when Kennedy was assassinated so that the phrase would have the same resonance in Hebrew that it does in American English.

        Can someone else who can read Hebrew confirm/deny the translation of the printed Hebrew?

        Also — was there a recording, so that we can see if the PRINTED version differs from the SPOKEN version!

      • just
        November 1, 2014, 9:16 am

        so where’s the retraction/correction by the mighty zio wurlitzer of US/Isr media?

        why are they letting it stand?

      • ritzl
        November 1, 2014, 10:38 am

        Great point, pab. It would be interesting to see if discussions of the Kennedy assassination, in Hebrew, used the same phrasing. If so, this would seem to be a deliberate ambiguation by B-NET.

      • Shmuel
        November 1, 2014, 10:40 am

        Can someone else who can read Hebrew confirm/deny the translation of the printed Hebrew?

        You mean besides Sol Salbe and myself? Don’t you trust us? ;-)

      • Shmuel
        November 1, 2014, 10:49 am

        It would be interesting to see if discussions of the Kennedy assassination, in Hebrew, used the same phrasing.

        The word means lawn, the context was a place in which ME peace treaties are signed. As important as the US is to Israel, the Kennedy assassination is really not a topic of discussion in Israel, and to the extent that it is (say on Hebrew Wiki), the US English expression “grassy knoll” is translated something like “mound of grass” (תלולית דשא, as just pointed out), not lawn (מדשאה/ות).

        I don’t know what the translator was thinking (although my money’s on an honest mistake), but there is no doubt whatsoever that that is not what Netanyahu said or meant. This entire story is based on nothing but a mistranslation that happened to have made the rounds.

        I don’t like to quote Ari Shavit, but he wants to know what they (Netanyahu and his government) are smoking in Jerusalem. So would I.

      • ritzl
        November 1, 2014, 10:53 am

        Thanks Shmuel.

      • just
        November 1, 2014, 10:59 am

        ditto.

      • Mooser
        November 2, 2014, 11:38 am

        “I don’t like to quote Ari Shavit, but he wants to know what they (Netanyahu and his government) are smoking in Jerusalem. So would I.”

        There’s no doubt about what we are smoking here in Washington State. I’ll put it up against anything they have in Jerusalem. Is theirs State-inpsected for strength and purity? Our’s is!

      • JLewisDickerson
        November 4, 2014, 4:11 pm

        RE: “Since this was a translation from Hebrew, as I’d imagined (what with it being a speech in Knesset and all), the choice of translations would seem to be wide and the choice of ‘grassy knoll’ where ‘front lawn’ is possible would seem to indicate a DELIBERATE DIRTY TRICK by the translator . . .”

        MY COMMENT: Might this have been a MEMRI translation? I certainly wouldn’t put an intentional mistranslation past them!

      • JLewisDickerson
        November 4, 2014, 4:15 pm
      • JLewisDickerson
        November 4, 2014, 4:16 pm

        P.S. Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) – – See more at: link to mondoweiss.net

      • JLewisDickerson
        November 4, 2014, 4:18 pm

        P.S. Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) – link to sourcewatch.org

    • Mooser
      November 1, 2014, 12:32 pm

      “When there pressures upon Israel, the easiest course is to give in, you get applauded on the front lawns, and then the missiles and tunnels would come.”

      And that isn’t bad enough? It is a vow of complete intransigence! Anotherwords, he has no intention of doing anything else but what he is doing.

    • traintosiberia
      November 1, 2014, 12:56 pm

      Sure.This is a possibility.
      But for last 10 years the constant line of the opening statements against Iran has been “Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map” .
      Grassy knoll has not been picked up by the media .It has not been challenged . There is no discussion. While the lies created by the media have been repeatedly used by the folks and their paymasters and enablers to argue for more sanctions and preemptive war against Iran.
      That man who was accused of saying those words has been out of power .
      Despite this fact the manufactured moral confusion, that was allowed to build up on the basis of those media -channeled lies still influences discussion for more aggressive responses to Iranain people . Netanahu has been asking for war against Iran on the basis of certain “facts” that have been debunked and rejected by the evidences . Those “facts” were created and spread by US Media with full pivotal supports and possibly as the demands by Israel from the get -go.

  19. JLewisDickerson
    November 1, 2014, 2:56 am

    RE: ‘Why would Netanyahu make a reference to one of the most alarming chapters in American history, the assassination of a beloved American president? And for many, an assassination still shrouded in mystery and deceit? I just thought it was very weird.” ~ Annie Robbins

    MY COMMENT: Down here in Dixie, we’re accustomed to right-wing weirdness!

    SEE: “Inciting to kill Obama: Another Judeofascist from Chabad”, by Larry Derfner, +972 Magazine, 1/21/12

    [EXCERPT] Chabad is the largest, most energetic Jewish movement on earth, and it gives a place of honor to people like Andrew Adler, the Atlanta Jewish Times publisher who suggested that the Mossad kill Obama.
    Unfortunately, Chabad enjoys this heimishe image for bestowing yiddishkeit on Jews the world over, holding Passover seder for young Israelis traveling in the East, laying tfillin at the airport – strictly mitzvah-doers. The other side of Chabad – the violent, Jewish supremacist side – is less well-known. Maybe that will change now, though, with the op-ed by Chabadnik Andrew Adler, publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, who suggests that Israel assassinate Obama so it’ll be free to bomb Iran. (Disclosure: I wrote about Israel for the Atlanta Jewish Times in the 1990s, years before it was sold to this lunatic.) . . .

    ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to whattheysayaboutisrael.blogspot.com

    P.S. ALSO SEE: “U.S. publisher who called for Obama assassination proves ‘Israel-firsters’ exist” ~ by Yossi Gurvitz, +972 Magazine, 1/21/12

    [EXCERPT] . . . Adler has since issued a non-apology: “I very much regret it, I wish I hadn’t made reference to it at all,” he told the JTA. It is worth noting that Adler is a Chabadnik, i.e. a member of a religious faction which has already shown an unhealthy interest in assassinations. Harry Shapiro, a Chabadnik, was convicted of planting a pipe bomb in a synagogue visited by Shimon Peres in Jacksonville back in 1997. A leading Chabad rabbi in Israel, Dov Wolfa, has flirted with the supporters of Yigal Amir, Rabin’s assassin. I think it is safe to assume that an Islamic movement with this sort of record would find itself under, shall we say, intense scrutiny by the authorities.
    Now, no one would mistake me for a supporter of either the Netanyahu government or Israel’s out-of-control security establishment, but I am certain that had anyone suggested such a covert operation to Netanyahu, that person would be fired on the spot. And that even had Netanyahu entertained such an idea, the leadership of Mossad would submit their resignation rather than going along with the plan. What Adler wrote was a fantasy, unrelated to Israeli reality.
    Which, alas, is true about much of what Jewish Americans think of Israel. However, Adler did prove a point, albeit not one he intended: He showed us that there are, in fact, American Jews who are “Israel-firsters”, that is, people who put the interests of Israel ahead of their own country. In Adler’s case, to the point of supporting the assassination of his own duly-elected president – which skirts very closely to treason . . .

    ENTIRE ARTICLE – link to 972mag.com

  20. Boomer
    November 1, 2014, 6:43 am

    Maybe this was his way of saying that Obama is the fearful one. It has been reported here that Obama supposedly told his supporters that he feared assassination, in order to explain some of his actions or inactions.
    link to mondoweiss.net

  21. just
    November 1, 2014, 10:01 am

    There’s no retraction/correction in either The Guardian or Haaretz as of now…..

  22. W.Jones
    November 1, 2014, 11:08 am

    To have just returned from the United States and for Yitzhak to have been in Dallas just hours before — albeit as mere coincidence; Fort Bliss was a stop on his military briefing tour— was disorienting. Yitzhak was about to become chief of staff and had just completed an intensive study of state-of-the-art defense and security practices from the most powerful nation in the world and suddenly we learned that country’s chief-executive was slain by a lone-gunman……. ~Leah Rabin
    link to jfkfacts.org

  23. Kay24
    November 1, 2014, 12:15 pm

    So the Chickenshit has a problem at home he has to live with…..no wonder he looks angry outside the home. The stories of domestic help treated like slaves in that hen coop is too much to ignore.

    “Netanyahus’ ex-housekeeper spills more beans on life with Bibi and Sara in new affidavit
    In million-shekel lawsuit, Meni Naftali claims some employees were forced to change clothes three times per shift, and that Sara Netanyahu blasted staff for not packing eggs in separate bags.

    The former housekeeper of the prime minister’s residence claims that Sara Netanyahu saw the domestic staff there as constituting a “hygiene problem,” and that she tore up his resignation letter because her husband was “busy with Iran.”

    Sara does not realize Chickenshit is the” hygiene problem”. :))

    Must be interesting living with Sara Helmsley.

  24. Talkback
    November 1, 2014, 1:56 pm

    So did the chicken shit on the lawn or not?

    • just
      November 1, 2014, 2:07 pm

      That IS the question, after all!

      (LOL)

    • Kay24
      November 1, 2014, 4:57 pm

      He shits on other people’s lawns, and claims it to be his.

  25. just
    November 1, 2014, 2:10 pm

    Thanks for the update, Annie!

    I think it’s *funny* that it remains ‘mistranslated’.

  26. piotr
    November 1, 2014, 3:26 pm

    I think that rather than having a hidden meaning, the reference to “handshakes on grassy knolls” is simply incoherent. Iconography of diplomatic handshakes does not offer many examples of grassy mounds used as locations. For example, Arafat and Barak are shown either indoors, or in a flat, non-grassy forest at Camp David.

    In the context of the full sentence, I would say that Netanyahu is not only paranoid, but he also suffers from acute acrophobia (intense fear of modestly elevated places).

  27. MRW
    November 1, 2014, 4:10 pm

    Why weren’t TPTB as assiduous in correcting Ahmadinejad’s 2009 mistranslation? Where was the admin’s apology then?

  28. Kay24
    November 1, 2014, 6:55 pm

    The Chickenshit lobby is mad as hell:

    link to original.antiwar.com

    • Annie Robbins
      November 1, 2014, 9:09 pm

      kay, just out of curiosity, do the links in the article not show up for you too? because i can’t usually see them which really bothers me a lot, but they are there and when you scroll over them they appear. let me know if you can’t see the embed in the body of the article where it says ” The Chickenshit Lobby Is Mad As Hell– but just how mad are they?”. in total there are 7 embeds in the article linking to source data.

      thanks. and anyone else i’m curious hoe the embeds appear to you.

      • Kay24
        November 1, 2014, 10:15 pm

        They seem to show up for me at least the ones I clicked on. It is strange it does not work for you.
        Someone more tech savvy can perhaps explain it to you.

      • Annie Robbins
        November 2, 2014, 1:23 am

        thanks kay. they do “work” for me, they are just not visible to me unless i scroll over them.

      • just
        November 2, 2014, 5:26 am

        The embeds appear in blue on my screen…..

      • Mooser
        November 2, 2014, 11:43 am

        “Thanks kay. they do “work” for me, they are just not visible to me unless i scroll over them.”

        I think you can change that in “Internet Options” in your browser. Links can be always highlighted, or appear when scrolled over.

  29. talknic
    November 1, 2014, 9:21 pm

    If there was laughter at the time to the alleged ‘grassy knoll’ comment there might be a point to this article…

  30. charlesfrith
    November 1, 2014, 11:54 pm

    Isreal’s links to the shooting of JFK are credible. Not quite enough evidence to accuse but enough to warrant further investigation.

  31. oldgeezer
    November 2, 2014, 12:15 am

    So the Hareetz reporter was totally dishonest? That assumes other press merely reported his comments.

    Why no retraction?

    Why have none of the camera sites (as far as I know. I don’t even know them all I’m sure) jumped on this, demanding a correction and also highlighting it as a case of msm trying to discredit/demonize Israel?

    I’m neither convinced he said it (as he would be truly insane to do so) but also unconvinced that he didn’t as it’s being buried, or ignored, and not addressed. Referring to grassy knolls, whether he said it or reporters falsely claimed he did, is not a minor issue.

    • lysias
      November 2, 2014, 6:21 pm

      The reactor at Dimona went critical on Dec. 24, 1963. Interesting date. Some Christmas present for the world.

  32. Maidhc
    November 2, 2014, 5:51 am

    In a 2005 Haaretz article entitled “History of a hot potato,” Yehiam Weitz implies the “existential threat” to Israel that was removed with Kennedy’s assassination :

    On May 19, 1963, Kennedy stated in a “tough, extremely threatening” letter that Israel’s capacity for developing nuclear arms could undermine world stability. The president demanded that Israel agree to periodic visits at the Dimona reactor by administration representatives. Israel was given no leeway. Acceptance of this demand would mean exposing the “Dimona Project” to possible liquidation, while non-acceptance would mean confrontation, and possibly a severe crisis, with the American administration.

    A month later, on Saturday, June 15, 1963, Kennedy sent another letter to Ben-Gurion, in which he demanded vigorously and unequivocally that administration representatives be allowed to visit the sites in Dimona and that no time limits be placed on their stay there. The letter concluded with an unmistakable warning to Israel should it refuse to meet the president’s demand. The next day, Ben-Gurion resigned as prime minister.

    […]

    In November 1963, after Kennedy’s assassination, his vice president, Lyndon Baines Johnson, replaced him and served until January 20, 1969, a month before Eshkol’s death. In the early days of his presidency, Johnson spent little time on the Israeli nuclear question.

    link to haaretz.com

    • lysias
      November 2, 2014, 6:23 pm

      I meant the above posting about the reactor at Dimona going critical to be a reply to your posting. I wouldn’t say LBJ was quite ignoring the Israeli nuclear question.

  33. Kay24
    November 2, 2014, 6:56 am

    Will these harsh sentences (which would most probably apply to kids more than adults) work for terror settlers who throw stones too, or are they the usual apartheid policies only for Palestinians?

    “Netanyahu’s cabinet backs bill to jail stone-throwers up to 10-20 years
    Amendment will make it possible to convict and punish the violators even if the state cannot prove they intended to damage cars or injure passengers; bill must still be brought to Knesset for approval.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s cabinet on Sunday approved an amendment to Israel’s penalty code to enable a more severe punishment for those convicted of throwing stones at vehicles.”
    Haaretz

    The occupation goes on, and the world does not give a damn.

  34. talknic
    November 2, 2014, 10:45 am

    ‘chickenshit’ comes from “an unidentified U.S. official is quoted by Jeffrey Goldberg”

    link to upi.com

    Ahem …. does anyone really trust Goldberg?

    • just
      November 2, 2014, 12:30 pm

      “Ahem …. does anyone really trust Goldberg?”

      No. Can’t stand the IOF prison guard who’s still guarding the henhouse.

  35. a female faust
    November 3, 2014, 9:35 am

    i have archived the “grassy knoll” version of Ha’aretz’ article. The page has links to the article, as well as a more permanent data-encoded version of it in PDF form.

    this page also is my first post in a project i have long entertained, of aggregating all the pages i have snatched from the teeth of broken links, etc; a practice of which i have long been fond. (i named the blog “-102” because 404 minus 102 equals 302, the error code for “page found.”)

    thank you for being my inspiration, not causa but certainly per accidens.

  36. a female faust
    November 3, 2014, 9:37 am

    oops — forgot to check the notify box – please reply to this comment instead of the last —

    • Annie Robbins
      November 3, 2014, 11:36 pm

      a female faust, thank you .. i embedded your archived link into the article above.

      • a female faust
        November 4, 2014, 3:23 am

        thank you1 what a blessing for the new site!

      • a female faust
        November 4, 2014, 3:28 am

        i always wanted a little repository of the erased and 404ed that i and others have found. i also take requests. i make permanent data links because i have lost pages trusting in the internet archive… much less the media…. thanks again.

  37. traintosiberia
    November 3, 2014, 5:37 pm

    Was it not reported that there was an attack on H Clinton while she was in Israel? But the news disappeared as soon as it arrived . I think there was a mention of the incident here in this site.

  38. Andreas Schlueter
    November 5, 2014, 11:39 am

    The explanation for the “Grassy Knoll” remark is very simple! With the “Inside Job” of Kennedy´s assassination by a section of the US Power Elite the “special relationship” between Israel and the US started, based on blackmail power: link to wipokuli.wordpress.com
    The remark was meant to remind the US government of Israel´s knowledge about the “dirty secrets”!
    Andreas Schlüter
    Sociologist
    Berlin, Germany

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