B’Tselem video: Israeli soldiers blindfold and detain 11 year old disabled child

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Watch as settlers from the Jewish settlement of Kiryat Arba, near Hebron, clap, shout and cheer as an Israeli soldier binds the hands of a child behind his back and fastens a blindfold over his eyes as another soldier stands on guard before they lift the frightened boy into the back of their military jeep enclosing him in darkness as the settlers’ cheering continues. The boy is eleven and developmentally disabled.

The scene, captured on video by a B’Tselem volunteer, is another all too familiar scene of life under occupation.

B’Tselem Press Release:

Yesterday, soldiers briefly detained a developmentally disabled Palestinian boy, who is under the age of criminal responsibility, on suspicion that he had thrown stones. The boy, A. a-Rajbi, (full name withheld in interest of privacy) who will be 12 in a month, was detained after Palestinian children threw stones at soldiers on the main road of the Jabel Johar neighborhood in Hebron, close to the settlement of Kiryat Arba. A-Rajbi was handcuffed, blindfolded, and held on the floor of an army jeep for some 15 minutes until his father arrived and convinced the soldiers to release his son, who is mentally disabled and cannot speak.

In the video footage, filmed by B’Tselem volunteer Samih Da’na from his window, soldiers are seen holding the boy, handcuffing him, blindfolding him and closing him in the jeep, despite cries by Palestinian residents that the boy is mentally disabled. The footage also shows settlers from Kiryat Arba, watching the incident from behind the settlement’s fence. Some are seen calling out encouragement to the soldiers, including several racist remarks.

It really bothers me how high the soldier twists the boy’s arm up his back.

Screen shot: B'tselem Israeli Soldiers detain developmentally-disabled Palestinian child in Hebron, 19 Oct. 2014

Screen shot: B’tselem Israeli Soldiers detain developmentally-disabled Palestinian child in Hebron, 19 Oct. 2014

Here one of the soldiers gives a warning sign to the family as he clutches his weapon.

Screen shot: B'tselem Israeli Soldiers detain developmentally-disabled Palestinian child in Hebron, 19 Oct. 2014     Screen shot: B'tselem Israeli Soldiers detain developmentally-disabled Palestinian child in Hebron, 19 Oct. 2014

Screen shot: B'tselem Israeli Soldiers detain developmentally-disabled Palestinian child in Hebron, 19 Oct. 2014

Screen shot: B’Tselem Israeli Soldiers detain developmentally-disabled Palestinian child in Hebron, 19 Oct. 2014

Also, I just notice the soldier hanging out with the settlers, sitting on a stump, watching (at minute 4:24).

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  1. Giles
    October 20, 2014, 4:35 pm

    This nation (Israel) is completely sick.

      • pabelmont
        October 21, 2014, 9:09 am

        Thank you, lysias. “But one voice echoing popular global sentiment is surprising – the President of Israel. Israel President Reuven Rivlin says Israel has become a “sick society” that lacks human decency and is unable to engage in dialogue with Arabs due to racial animosity and prejudice – a rather stunning indictment by a head of state of his own country.” He really said this? Is there proof? in NYT?

        Those cheering settlers say it all. “Death to Arabs”. They know, or should know, that the settlements and themselves are present ion OPTs illegally (in contemplation of international law), and yet they celebrate Israel’s lawlessness with a showing of a descent into bestiality (of which their cheering of this arrest of an 11-year old is a telling indication). They are saying, (my translation) “We’ve become savage animals without human feeling, tearing and rending the Palestinians who live among us, and it gives us great joy. This land is ours, all of it, and only ours, not anyone else’s, and we are proud that we got it and maintain our control of it ONLY from the barrels of guns. Soldiers, arrest those kids and imprison them and torture them and throw away the key.”

      • lysias
        October 21, 2014, 10:05 am

        Pabelmont, Firedoglake’s source for the story was the Jerusalem Post.

    • Bornajoo
      October 20, 2014, 7:55 pm

      @Giles
      “this nation (israel) is completely sick”
      I think that sums it up perfectly. That video also made me feel sick.

    • Jackdaw
      October 22, 2014, 5:39 am

      ” The boy’s father arrived on the scene some 15 minutes later and explained to the soldiers that his son suffers from a mental illness and is unable to speak. Following the exchange, the soldiers released the boy. ”

      http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4582632,00.html

      A momentary detention and immediate release to the custody of a parent.
      How sick is that, Giles?

      • adele
        October 22, 2014, 12:01 pm

        how would you like your developmentally disabled child being traumatized, arrested, roughed up and thrown into the back of a military jeep by soldiers in helmets loaded from head to toe with weapons and can act at will to hurt you or your family?

        THE FATHER HAD TO PLEA – I REPEAT, THE FATHER HAD TO PLEA – to get his developmentally disabled child released. Can you imagine having to plea to secure your child’s safety? How would that affect you, your child, your family? Extremely traumatic.

        I realize that the ziocane may have tampered with the neurons in your brain that release compassion triggers so what I just explained to you is probably pointless. How I would love to be proven wrong!

  2. pineywoodslim
    October 20, 2014, 4:48 pm

    This is Israel’s national identity.

  3. amigo
    October 20, 2014, 4:50 pm

    Gee, I wonder if “Yonah, (Israel deserves to defend it,s 67 borders), Fredman” will defend this garbage.

    Maybe you will tell us this is the kind of world you live in so it,s not your fault.You don,t control Israeli history , past or present, so better to just go along with it and this type of inhuman barbarity.Screw the future eh Yonah.

    Now where did we hear that s–t before.

    • Mooser
      October 20, 2014, 6:00 pm

      “Maybe you will tell us this is the kind of world you live in so it,s not your fault.”

      Hey, Brooklyn is tough. If Yonah can make it there, he can make it anywhere.

    • yonah fredman
      October 20, 2014, 7:22 pm

      amigo- I wonder if it would be really so difficult to write without the taunt. i bet you could if you wanted to. but then you wouldn’t be able to show off how great a humanist you are. humanism through sarcasm.

      the situation in kiryat arba is different than the situation by gaza. building settlements past the 67 border, as is the situation in kiryat arba, creates a different dynamic than that which exists in gaza where there are no such elements.
      i cited the general in regards to gaza indicating that avoiding the next war is feasible.
      and although i live in brooklyn, my siblings and nieces and nephews live in israel and it is their reality that i am discussing, i wonder if having been brought up with a certain attitude towards israel, how different my attitude might have been if i had been an only child or if i had come from a family that supported israel but never visited there. but my situation was thus- sent to study in rabbinical school on the west bank from the age of 17 to 19, during which time the yom kippur war occurred. have one brother and three sisters, who all moved to israel despite birth in north america.

      i didn’t read what was done to this kid near kiryat arba, but the west bank (assuming that giving it up to Palestinian sovereignty is too dangerous an alternative) should have been held as a trusteeship until such time as peace could be reached, and thus the building of settlements over the 67 line (including where i went to school from 72 to 74) creates an intolerable situation of claiming territory without offering the residents citizenship and thus the rebelliousness of the residents is understandable.

      the rebelliousness of the gaza Palestinians is also understandable, although removal of the settlers from there in 2006 eliminated the most egregious aspects of claiming land without granting citizenship. finding the means to allow gaza to thrive without giving gazans the means to lob rockets at the Israelis, is a tricky business. although those of you who favor handing the airports and the harbors over to Hamas do not find anything complicated in the situation, I am satisfied to have the IDF controlling the airports and the harbors and thus it is more complicated than the “leave the middle east” prescription of you antizionists.

      • Annie Robbins
        October 20, 2014, 7:31 pm

        finding the means to allow gaza to thrive without giving gazans the means to lob rockets at the Israelis, is a tricky business.

        the means to lob rockets at the Israelis? maybe had israel not imposed first an economic embargo on gaza and then a blockade the motive would not have been there. it’s not yours or israel job or duty to find a “means to allow gaza to thrive” is yours and israels job to stop blockading them, so they can do it themselves. “allow” how colonialist of you. they’ll find a way to support themselves.

      • oldgeezer
        October 20, 2014, 9:38 pm

        I second Annie’s comments. You likely have no idea what you sound like. And you couldn’t be bothered to find out what they did to the kid. It’s only a Palestinian kid right? Who cares? Certainly no Israel supporter.

      • Marnie
        October 21, 2014, 1:11 am

        You’ve always got an excuse ready for the settlers and the IDF, then bemoan the fact that you’re posts are greeted with sarcasm. Did you watch the video? Did you see how it took 2 brave soldiers to subdue that 11-year-old? Did you get a tingle! Was it exciting to see the chosen people take down this ayrab boy, this mamzer, this terrorist? Did you enjoy hearing his family members anguish? I bet it was a real turn on watching the settler’s little orgy more though. It would be refreshing and maybe a real game-changer for you and your boyz to focus on the palestinians as human beings and forget about the soldiers and settlers as they are never in real danger. I know. You don’t live here. Pretend that little boy was your nephew. Pretend it was your family members who lost their arms, legs and lives, friends, social structure, homes, schools, hospitals, grocery stores, synagogues, paramedics, doctors, nurses, livestock, pastures, olive trees, etc.

      • Annie Robbins
        October 21, 2014, 2:40 am

        the situation in kiryat arba is different than the situation by gaza. ….. the situation in kiryat arba, creates a different dynamic than that which exists in gaza where there are no such elements

        ok. we get it, no taunting settlers cheering while the kids are dragged off. the “such elements” of gaza, the blockade (counting calories/slaughter/genocide) are a different/harsher form of ‘oppression’ than other forms of colonialism. as ethnic cleansing could be construed as ‘more humane’ than genocide.

        although i live in brooklyn, my siblings and nieces and nephews live in israel and it is their reality that i am discussing

        ok, some of them live in settlements tho right? as i recall? so can i imagine your relatives as some of those settlers watching this scene? maybe just the ones standing there as voyeurs (albeit even those little settler children get excited there towards the end and become active participants, maybe this is how they learn to be racist by the time they reach puberty, or does it set in earlier?)

        so yes, do discuss “their reality”.

        i wonder if having been brought up with a certain attitude towards israel, how different my attitude might have been if i had been an only child or if i had come from a family that supported israel but never visited there.

        which reminds me yonah, did you get a chance to read ‘I know how the brainwashing works’ ? here > http://mondoweiss.net/2014/10/know-brainwashing-works

        it’s currently on the front page by our MW commenter bornajoo. really an astoundingly amazing article. but what you said about “brought up with a certain attitude towards israel” and “how different my attitude might have been if i had been an only child or if i had come from a family that supported israel but never visited there.” well, bornajoo’s family had the same attitude towards israel (somewhat), and they/he did visit there. but his experience led him elsewhere, mentally and emotionally. so i’m not so sure it primarily has to do with the those circumstances.

        sometimes perhaps it is more a matter of humane instincts of right and wrong.

        I wonder if it would be really so difficult to write without the taunt. i bet you could if you wanted to. but then you wouldn’t be able to show off how great a humanist you are.

        sometimes people let there emotions slip thru between the lines. even humanists can feel anger watching this video. humanist are not always lovey dovey and sarcasm is not a ‘non-humanist’ attribute.

        whether it is difficult or not, to write without the taunt, maybe just excuse the angst being directed at you personally. after all it is your choice to come here in an environment of support for equality/justice for palestine and cast your lot with (defending) zionism, is it not? you can always choose to disengage.

        please understand it is very infuriating at times being at one with the caged ones. as a supporter of (inadvertently or otherwise)the oppressors, maybe it is us who should be asking you if perhaps it would be really so difficult to endure online taunts. after all, it’s not so bad compared to having one of your nieces or nephews handcuffed, blindfolded, abducted, detained tortured…the taunt, it’s sort of a small price to pay considering what you’re defending/representing..isn’t it? it must be awful having to be on the side of people who are ethnically cleansing palestine. but..you are.

      • Annie Robbins
        October 21, 2014, 3:18 am

        the west bank (assuming that giving it up to Palestinian sovereignty is too dangerous an alternative) should have been held as a trusteeship until such time as peace could be reached

        why make that assumption? the occupation of the west bank never should have happened, obviously. israel is not, has never, and will never be a responsible trustworthy party to hold trusteeship over land designated for palestinian sovereignty. and the last thing israel wants is peace, they want the land! big duh.

      • Mayhem
        October 21, 2014, 4:21 am

        @robbins should know that the motive has always been there. Notwithstanding Israel’s actions, the unwillingness of the Palestinians to accept a growing Jewish presence predate 1967 by over hundred years.

      • mgsoulcraft
        October 21, 2014, 5:21 am

        Yonah – don’t even try with these people
        Turns out the kid was held for 15 minutes – 15 min
        Annie’s piece doesn’t say that
        Doesn’t fit with her antizionism

        I’ve read this site with an open mind for a while but it is shameful
        And she is the worst of the worst

        These people want the dissolution of Israel.
        That’s their agenda

        No real context to the gaza war – Sharon’s withdrawal, Gazans election of Hamas, which led to blockade
        It seems they would be happy if 2000 Israelis died.
        That might satisfy Annie and her ilk.

      • Annie Robbins
        October 21, 2014, 10:50 am

        Turns out the kid was held for 15 minutes – 15 min
        Annie’s piece doesn’t say that
        Doesn’t fit with her antizionism

        how “soulcraft” of you mg. however, anyone who places “15 min” in the search function will find this highlighted in the text of the article:

        A-Rajbi was handcuffed, blindfolded, and held on the floor of an army jeep for some 15 minutes until his father arrived and convinced the soldiers to release his son, who is mentally disabled and cannot speak.

        try reading the complete text before making accusations (and analysis) you can’t support.

      • Bornajoo
        October 21, 2014, 5:40 am

        @yonah
        Hi Yonah. What is the opinion and reaction of your siblings, nieces and nephews in israel when they see this video (and the hundreds of others just like this)? I’m very interested to know, seriously. Do they ever see this stuff? Do you ever send them the links?

      • seafoid
        October 21, 2014, 9:08 am

        I think “Kiryat Arba” is as bad as Gaza. It’s like a psychotic version of Judaism.
        If Judaism needs Hebron Judaism needs to be reformed. I imagine most Jews in Hebron are mentally ill.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUXSFsJV084

        And this is supposed to be tikkun olam. Those prayers are less than worthless. A mitzvah in Hebron is less valuable than a fart in Brooklyn.

      • Mooser
        October 21, 2014, 10:35 am

        “A mitzvah in Hebron is less valuable than a fart in Brooklyn.”

        That’s it! You’ve just given me the name for the rich Corinthian leather-bound collection of Yonah’s comments I am preparing! I’ll title it “A Fart Blows in Brooklyn.”

      • amigo
        October 21, 2014, 10:42 am

        “amigo- I wonder if it would be really so difficult to write without the taunt “Yonah F. See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/10/soldiers-blindfold-disabled#comment-717151

        I would have no problem writing without the taunt when you quit trying to appear like a humanist who cares about Palestinians.

        Example!

        ” finding the means to allow gaza to thrive without giving gazans the means to lob rockets at the Israelis, is a tricky business. although those of you who favor handing the airports and the harbors over to Hamas do not find anything complicated in the situation, I am satisfied to have the IDF controlling the airports and the harbors and thus it is more complicated than the “leave the middle east” prescription of you antizionists. YF

        Gazans!!!(Palestinians), lob rockets at Israel because Israel has been murdering fishermen and farmers and whosoever they choose for years.That is why Israel gets rockets lobbed in their general direction.It is the IDF you wish to leave in charge that creates these problems.

        Stop scratching the surface Yonah and maybe you will realise just who is at fault and drop the Liberal zionist facade.

        As to taunting , how anout this???.

        “yonah fredman October 18, 2014 at 5:24 pm

        just- are you so stupid that all you can do is parrot a moose?
        – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/wondering-jew#sthash.5HK0Dd7l.dpuf.

      • Mooser
        October 21, 2014, 11:08 am

        “I was sent to study in rabbinical school on the west bank from the age of 17 to 19,”

        “Rabbinical school”? The school doesn’t have a name? What was the name of this “rabbinical school” Yonah? Have you forgotten already?

        There are many people here (thank G-d, I am not among them) very familiar with Palestine. The name of your “Rabiinical school” to which your were “sent” would tell them a lot. It would help them understand you.

      • Mooser
        October 21, 2014, 11:13 am

        “intolerable situation of claiming territory without offering the residents citizenship”

        Maybe the residents should be asked if they wish to grant the Zionists citizenship in their country? That ever occur to you.

        Also, Yonah, Israel has never annexed or claimed any territory since 48. They “occupy” it . You might want to look up that word “occupy” as in “military occupation”>

      • seafoid
        October 21, 2014, 12:48 pm

        @ mgsoulcraft

        “I’ve read this site with an open mind for a while but it is shameful And she is the worst of the worst -”

        Annie is a legend.

        THIS is the Wurst of the Wurst
        http://www.schnitzelbahn.com/storage/currywurst%20pommes%20plate%20uncut.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1372586387249

        And you should go to Arutz Sheva for your intellectual nourishment

      • Annie Robbins
        October 21, 2014, 1:40 pm

        @robbins should know that the motive has always been there. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/10/soldiers-blindfold-disabled#sthash.ANHVzVwp.dpuf

        mayhem, way to not get my point. are you going to assert that blockading gaza, virtually ending economic opportunity for over a million people and putting them on a diet, directly after pulling out settlers was not a cause for rockets? breaking the ceasefire was not a cause for rockets? please do not try to pawn off some idea israel only acts in response to palestinian violence, no one believes that. and of course people will always resist the colonialization of their land. of course ever since zionists set their eye in palestine it was a recipe for disaster. so there will always be a motive to resist this occupation of a land, of a people.

        and, zionism in palestine (as opposed to some empty island someone) requires either ethnically cleansing or genociding the indigenous people, so your motive is cut out for you too.

        but looking forward and to the immediate future and circumstance, if israel doesn’t want rockets they should end the blockade and quit imprisoning, killing, torturing people , and stealing more and more land. no people could live like that without resisting, none. not jews, not anybody. the slaughter of gaza was not a response to rockets. the rockets were a response to israel pogrom in the WB set off with great intent after the hamas-fatah unity deal and everyone knows it. just like everyone know natanyahu LIED about the death of the teens in order to justify the occupation army rampaging throughout the WB in order to punish palestinians for the unity deal and instigated massive upheaval because all israel knows is force. and to expect palestinians to endure that with no recourse? impossible. take some responsibility for the violent nature of the state representing your people and understand the implications of that violence. iow deal with it.

      • Kris
        October 21, 2014, 1:59 pm

        @yonahfredman, thanks for sharing that your siblings and nieces/nephews moved to Israel from the U.S., and that your perceptions are colored by their “reality” and by your own study at a “rabbinical school on the west bank.”

        I’ve been trying to imagine how I would feel in your place, and the closest I can get is if I had studied religion at a seminary affiliated with the Christian Identity movement, and my siblings, etc., had moved to an Aryan Nation compound in northern Idaho involved in stealing land/resources from the Nimi’ipuu (Nez Perce) or Kalispel, Kootenai and Schitsu’umsh (Coeur d’ Alene) tribes.

        I hope that I would feel ashamed, and not as if I needed to be an apologist for these people.

        Also, Yonah, how could there be a “rabbinical school” in Israeli-occupied territory that belongs to the Palestinians? Don’t the Ten Commandments (“8. Thou shall not steal,” and “10. Thou shalt not covet what is thy neighbor’s,”) apply to Jews?

      • seafoid
        October 21, 2014, 2:11 pm

        “Notwithstanding Israel’s actions, the unwillingness of the Palestinians to accept a growing Jewish presence predate 1967 by over hundred years.”

        Looking at what actually happened you’d have to say they were right.
        Just look at those IDF pictures of soldiers abusing Palestinians.
        Why can’t Israel be a normal country? Because it’s run on trauma.

      • yonah fredman
        October 21, 2014, 5:41 pm

        a few quick remarks- the name of the yeshiva I attended from 72 to 74 was Yeshivat Har Etzion located in Alon Shevut.

        Currently most of my nephews and nieces live in 67 Israel. I have one haredi niece who lives in a town that is partly in the west bank. i think a newlywed nephew of mine and his wife might be living in the west bank. i am pleased that most of my nephews and nieces do not live in occupied territory.

        I’m sorry if my nomenclature regarding using the term Gazans rather than Palestinians does not meet with the approval of all the commentators. So it goes. Add a few more exclamation marks and then we shall know that the TRUTH!!!!! is on your side.

        Unlike most commentators here I consider my views a work in progress, particularly since it has been less than 2 months since the end of the war. (sorry if my use of the word “war” does not meet the truth patrol here, either.) It is a weird situation supporting a war i opposed, meaning supporting the rights of those who supported the war not be called racists and to consider them rational if not possessing a plan for the future. they would object to my plan for the future as well and all I can say is that holding the west bank rather than handing it to Hamas makes sense, but holding the west bank and settling people there without giving the residents citizenship and a vote is a stupid policy, because i was raised on robert kennedy and because the western world cannot tolerate such a bifurcation beyond the year 2060. (this year was added to get the goat of he who wishes his goat to be gotten).

        as regards the original occupation of the west bank: the 6 day war was caused by events. part of those events were the fault of israel, part of those events were the fault of the soviet union, part of those events were the fault of nasser. once king hussein signed up as an ally to nasser, war was inevitable. ideations about the malleability of history aside, there are dynamics involved in calling up reserves and creating a crisis that led to the war as surely as gravity leads an apple to fall off a tree and knock a scientist in the head. once the war was fought, the west bank was bound to be occupied. i think between 67 and 73 israel could have reached a separate agreement with king hussein and i regret that they didn’t and the settlement movement and the euphoria of a reunited Jerusalem and the emotions of the right wing and the religious Modern Orthodox and the general euphoria of the worldwide Jewish community in the aftermath of 67 ensured that that peace with Hussein was never reached and that is something that I regret.

      • Kris
        October 21, 2014, 10:15 pm

        Maybe what you need, yonah, is an editor, so here goes:

        “From ’72 to ’74 I attended a yeshiva (Jewish religious school) illegally built on land stolen from the Palestinians in the occupied West Bank. My nieces and nephews are U.S. citizens who have moved to Israel, and some live on occupied Palestinian land in violation of international law.

        ” I define Israel’s massacres of defenseless Palestinians trapped like fish in a barrel as “war,” though I know it’s not true. I’m really a liberal, Robert Kennedy, etc., but I can’t get beyond the prejudices I learned as a youth, so I support whatever Israel does.

        Hamas, Palestinian rockets: bad. Palestinians would be better off if they didn’t try to defend themselves from Israel’s ethnic cleansing. Stuff happens, it’s complicated, whatever.”

      • Mooser
        October 22, 2014, 11:26 am

        “I’ve been trying to imagine how I would feel in your place, and the closest I can get is if I had studied religion at a seminary affiliated with the Christian Identity movement, and my siblings, etc., had moved to an Aryan Nation compound in northern Idaho involved in stealing land/resources from the Nimi’ipuu (Nez Perce) or Kalispel, Kootenai and Schitsu’umsh (Coeur d’ Alene) tribes.”

        And people say inter-ethnic understanding is hard work! Kris, you got it in one shot. an almost perfect correspondence.

      • RoHa
        October 22, 2014, 7:23 pm

        “@robbins should know that the motive has always been there. Notwithstanding Israel’s actions, the unwillingness of the Palestinians to accept a growing Jewish presence predate 1967 by over hundred years. ”

        Uninvited foreigners start pouring into the country.
        They make no attempt to become part of the local society, but set up an alternative society from which locals are excluded.
        They loudly proclaim their intent to take over the country and set up a state in which they will be top dogs, run for their benefit, using a language they have just made up, and that any locals who are not driven out will be subjugated.
        To prove the point, they buy up some land and drive off the tenant farmers.

        And you think the locals should have welcomed them with open arms.

  4. just
    October 20, 2014, 4:58 pm

    ugh.

    Same as the Israelis cheering and drinking to the slaughter of Gaza.

    “As the sun begins to sink over the Mediterranean, groups of Israelis gather each evening on hilltops close to the Gaza border to cheer, whoop and whistle as bombs rain down on people in a hellish warzone a few miles away.

    Old sofas, garden chairs, battered car seats and upturned crates provide seating for the spectators. On one hilltop, a swing has been attached to the branches of a pine tree, allowing its occupant to sway gently in the breeze. Some bring bottles of beer or soft drinks and snacks.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing

    Monsters.

    • Kay24
      October 21, 2014, 4:50 pm

      Blood thirsty lot. All that, and yet there was outrage when someone drew a cartoon of an old gent sitting on one of those armchairs with a remote, “enjoying” the sight of bombs dropping on Gaza. They said the nose was antisemitic. That cartoon captured the essence of what was happening at that time exactly. I don’t think anyone thought twice about the nose, it was more to silence the criticism, yet again.

  5. amigo
    October 20, 2014, 4:58 pm

    Hail to the most moral army.The brave patriots and defenders of the only democracy in the middle East and light unto the nations of the world and the chosen ones.

    These f—-s do not understand the concept of proportionality.It is my view that they are under orders to create as may Palestinian enemies as possible and I believe that comes right from the very top.

    I so look forward to the day when even one of these sickos ends up in chains at the Hague.We can make sure a cheering party is there to greet him / her at all times.

  6. humanist2000
    October 20, 2014, 5:23 pm

    sad that so many jews are supportive of this regime when we remember that there was a time when they were the oppressed. But that’s how the world goes on, people do no never remember.

    • seafoid
      October 21, 2014, 9:14 am

      “But that’s how the world goes on, people do no never remember. ”

      And remembering nothing.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTFrCbQGyvM

      And Jews are the same as everyone else.

      It really shows up the optimism that Jewish texts can influence how people behave in the real world where Jews have power. All that sensitivity and morality turns out to be for self hating losers in the Diaspora.

      • Mooser
        October 21, 2014, 11:23 am

        “It really shows up the optimism that Jewish texts can influence how people behave in the real world where Jews have power.”

        Seafoid, I sometimes wonder, concerning Jewish texts, if the Chicago Statement of Biblical inerrancy hasn’t been adopted into the Jewish religion. Couldn’t somebody find everything they needed to support Zionism and Jewish supremacy in “Jewish texts” if they were willing to ignore the context? And make careful selections? Sorta like a segregationist who will only watch the ante-bellum scenes in Gone With the Wind”

    • Annie Robbins
      October 20, 2014, 7:33 pm

      and yet another

      On 26 July this year, Raed al Jabari, a 35-year-old a Palestinian father of five, was driving on Route 60. It appears as if he fell asleep at the wheel (having earlier taken painkillers). Near the Gush Etzion Junction he hit a woman standing on the road. The woman was slightly injured. Immediately afterwards he veered sharply back onto the road, and at the next junction turned himself to an IDF unit. There he explained what is outlined above.
      Al Jabri was immediately arrested and taken to the Ofer military detention centre. He was brought to the military court within the complex, where in light of these facts, the military judge released him on a NIS 8000 bail, having decided that he was not dangerous and his action wasn’t a deliberate terrorist act. But those were the days of Operation Protective Edge, and under the cover of the fighting in Gaza, the IDF greatly intensified repression on the West Bank. Without any additional evidence the Military Advocate-General decided not to release him and Al Jabari became a “security prisoner”.
      On September 9, he was transferred to the Eshel Prison in Beersheba, in flagrant violation of international law prohibiting the imprisonment of residents of a militarily occupied area outside the occupation zone. According to witness accounts, he refused to get out of the vehicle, but was beaten and eventually got out. A few hours later the Israeli Prison Service (IPS) claimed that he has been found hanged in his cell. His family wasn’t informed of anything, and only after the case was reported in the media and rumours began to reach them, they contacted the IPS which at first claimed that they knew nothing of the matter, and then confirmed the details. The popular News portal Walla! reported: “the prisoner who committed suicide, a 37-year-old Palestinian from Hebron, was arrested two months ago during Operation Brother’s Keeper on suspicion of security offences.”
      The finding of the Israeli Pathology’s autopsy report have not been published to this date. The Palestinian doctor who was present has been prevented by the court from publishing the results. He did, nevertheless, recommend an additional Palestinian autopsy. But I have been unable to get hold of even those results. However, following the autopsy, the Palestinian Minister for Prisoners was able to announce that there were no signs hanging on the body but on the other hand there were signs of violence.
      I don’t know which of the accounts is the accurate one, and for our purpose it does not matter. Either way this is a stuff-up by the IPS which followed a criminal abuse by the military regime of a person about whom it reasonable to assume that his crime was of a minor traffic accident, and that his death would be whitewashed using the usual means.
      This afternoon [Sunday 19 October] on the same road near the village of Sinjil, a settler from Yitzhar settlement ran over and killed 5-year-old Inas Shawkat Dar Khalil and fatally wounding 4-year-old Omar Asfour. He ran away and didn’t summon help. When he arrived iat the major settlement of Ofra he called the police.
      .
      The settler responsible for killing of a child and fatally wounding another, wasn’t arrested, he wasn’t not taken to a military detention centre, he wasn’t tried without evidence, he wasn’t beaten up, he wasn’t taken away from his family, and didn’t become a security prisoner. A Palestinian who slightly hit a woman had to endure all of these, and was killed because of them. If this is not Apartheid, I don’t know what is.
      John’s status in Hebrew:https://www.facebook.com/john.brown.3591/posts/725969464156115

  7. Nite_Owl
    October 20, 2014, 7:24 pm

    I’m surprised they had the gut to confront a mentally disabled 11 year old boy seeing as there was only 2 of them. You don’t normally see that much courage displayed by Israeli soldiers.

    • Kay24
      October 21, 2014, 4:54 pm

      Yeah, real tough guys eh? Their mother’s must be proud of them.

  8. RoHa
    October 20, 2014, 7:38 pm

    It’s comforting to know that we have the brave Israelis on our side in the War Against Terrorism.

  9. a blah chick
    October 20, 2014, 9:07 pm

    With soldiers as these you can understand why the IDF thought twice about reoccupying Gaza.

  10. oldgeezer
    October 20, 2014, 9:42 pm

    They sure love to target kids. A sick society is a huge understatement. Killing them, torturing, imprisoning them without charge or excessive sentences. They seem to get enjoyment from it or they wouldn’t do it so constantly.

  11. Taxi
    October 20, 2014, 11:02 pm

    Another despicable norm for the jewish isis army.

    I demand a full return of my taxes – with interest!!

  12. ToivoS
    October 20, 2014, 11:37 pm

    After the last war in Southern Lebanon when the IDF got beat by Hezbollah I recall an essay by Uri Avnery deploring the degradation of the IDFs fighting ability against trained soldiers. He attributed this sorry state of affairs to the fact that the IDF has been reduced to fighting children in the WB and have lost their skills. This looks like another example of the skills of the new and improved IDF.

  13. Kay24
    October 21, 2014, 2:25 am

    Once again the brutes of Israel display their sadistic and violent tendencies. Such ugly scenes are usually seen in rogue nations, dictatorships and those we may be bombing for human rights abuses in Islamic nations. How selective we are in how we treat those nations and say Saudi Arabia and Israel. Are these videos ignored by our Congress, do they even have access to these, especially because our zionist media always ignores these news items, never refers to them, or even mentions the word “occupation”? Now imagine these were Iranian troops, and the attention that would have been given to this horrible, disgusting, inhumane behavior, by non other than Israel’s “human animals with US weapons”.

  14. Daniel Rich
    October 21, 2014, 3:14 am

    Where are bill o’reilly & sean hannity when you need them?

  15. walktallhangloose
    October 21, 2014, 6:52 am

    I agree with almost every commenter here. But I would say, I wish the Palestinian parents would stop their children throwing stones at the IDF. I know why the children do it: they see how the IDF behave, and their parents are treated, and it makes them very angry. But they are putting themselves in danger, and their parents have a responsibility to protect them. Stopping the children throwing stones would leave the IDF with no excuse at all for arresting children, and the hasbarists with no basis for their claim that Palestinians are teaching their children to hate.

    • oldgeezer
      October 21, 2014, 10:02 am

      I certainly wish they’d stop throwing stones as well. Only because they are ineffectual though. It wouldn’t save any lives. The idf regularly kills children without the pretext of stone throwing. Last month a 12 year old was hit by sniper fire while playing in his front yard. The one that is most burned into my memory is the young girl (also 12?) who was gunned down for straying over the imaginary line and the officer emptying his clip into her. These events occur weekly and sometimes daily.

      No stones? No matter, the idf will continue killing innocent children (yes even the stone throwers are innocent). It’s no wonder the Palestinians hate Israelis after a half century of murder and abuse but that was taught to them primarily by the idf. It’s apparent that the total disregard for human life displayed by the idf has been taught to them from birth and is a source of national pride for them.

    • Mooser
      October 21, 2014, 10:42 am

      ” But they are putting themselves in danger, and their parents have a responsibility to protect them.”

      Many people don’t know this, but one of the surprising effect of Zionism on Palestine, and especially Gaza, is the amazing proliferation of perfect nuclear families, and obedient, well balanced children, very concerned about their “permanent record” and getting into a good college.

    • amigo
      October 21, 2014, 12:21 pm

      “Stopping the children throwing stones would leave the IDF with no excuse at all for arresting children, and the hasbarists with no basis for their claim that Palestinians are teaching their children to hate. ” walktallhangloose.

      The IDF don,t need an excuse.They will claim that the children threw stones whether or not they did.

      It is the zionist way of ensuring that they can claim to be the eternal victim and then get on with their brutal behaviour.This is what they do.No illegal settler kids are arrested or harmed in any way.Often the IDF stand idly by and do absolutely nothing until they are ready to arrest the Palestinians who were the targets in the first place.

    • Shingo
      October 21, 2014, 6:19 pm

      Stopping the children throwing stones would leave the IDF with no excuse at all for arresting children, and the hasbarists with no basis for their claim that Palestinians are teaching their children to hate.

      No, the IDF and Israeli government would just manufacture another excuse. Most of these arrests are not even based on evidence of throwing stones, just allegations from local settlers that they were seen throwing stones.

    • Annie Robbins
      October 22, 2014, 11:43 am

      under these circumstances i don’t wish the children stop throwing stones. simply because, instinctually, it’s not natural for all children living in these conditions to be so programed as to not act out. it would signify something about human behavior if, after decades and generations born into occupation, the continual domination of a people could eventually lead to those people internalizing their submission to the point of producing children that acted against basic human nature.

      clearly there are plenty of palestinian parents who warn their children and take every measure to keep them out of harms way. but logically and regardless, there will always be children who act out and resist the systematic oppression even if they don’t clearly understand it because they are so young. this is completely natural behavior under the circumstances.

      and what difference would it make if “Stopping the children throwing stones would leave the IDF with no excuse at all for arresting children” in an environment where soldiers need no excuse to arrest children? sure, excuses are nice, but completely unnecessary as has been proven time and again. there have been examples of young soldiers laying in wait for children to pick off like hunting deer or rabbits. no stones, no nothing.

      remember ‘they killed by boy as if he was a bird’ (paraphrasing)? there are way to many instances of children and teens getting killed for no reason, no reason at all, just standing there.

      • amigo
        October 22, 2014, 1:18 pm

        “under these circumstances i don’t wish the children stop throwing stones. simply because, instinctually, it’s not natural for all children living in these conditions to be so programed as to not act out. it would signify something about human behavior if, after decades and generations born into occupation,” Annie

        Indeed Annie, unlike the illegal settler kids who sometimes get tired splashing around in their ,(Stolen Palestinian water filled )pools and decide to go and have some alternate aversion from their fearful lives, throwing stones at the Indigenous natives or some such enjoyable activity with total impunity and more likely IDF approval as evidenced by their refusal to act.That is until they decide to arrest the recipients of those playful god fearing settler thug,s fun and games.

        Sickening.

  16. Talkback
    October 21, 2014, 8:11 am

    The most perverted army of the world. Ruled and run by perverts for other perverts. This is not an arrest, it is sadisticly molesting a disabled child. And it is the true face of Israel.

    • Marnie
      October 21, 2014, 10:56 am

      That was the perfect description, the molestation of children by the IDF and the true face of the state of israel.

      It’s just a shame that is lost on the likes of yonah and mgsoulcraft because after all, it was a Palestinian and shucks, “only 15 minutes”. Can you imagine how nuclear they’d go if it was a mentally retarded settler child on the receiving end of the IDF special handling?

  17. just
    October 21, 2014, 9:04 am

    Alistair Cooke

    “In the best of times, our days are numbered anyway. So it would be a crime against nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were designed in the first place: the opportunity to do good work, to enjoy friends, to fall in love, to hit a ball, and to bounce a baby.”

    http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/569592-in-the-best-of-times-our-days-are-numbered-anyway

    When will Israel & the ‘Anglosphere’ allow Palestinians to live with freedom, justice, joy, hope, peace and laughter?

  18. tarheelnm
    October 21, 2014, 9:51 am

    It is the dehumanization of the “other” that permits such actions, but it is those who commit such actions that are dehumanized by the violence they perpetrate. They lose their souls. Some, such as the courageous soldiers in Breaking the Silence, have told the teruth about what they experienced in the IDF. Others have refused to serve. There can be no justification for the terrorizing of innocent people, only repentance, but Israel continues to insist that they alone are morally right. The U.S. and U.K. bear equally responsibility for supporting these criminal actions.

  19. seafoid
    October 21, 2014, 2:29 pm

    Those pictures of IDF soldiers with their petty cruelty always feature a really white Jew straight outta the forests of Poland in a uniform with a gun. 70 years on, still a failure. Still can’t live in peace. Still fighting ww2.

    No surprise that Amos Oz’s mother took her own life, I think. She saw what Israel was. And would become.

    • seafoid
      October 21, 2014, 2:36 pm

      “According to a Veteran’s Administration study
      Half of the Vietnam combat veterans suffered from what Psychiatrists call
      Post-Traumatic-Stress-Disorder
      Many vets complain of alienation, rage, or guilt
      Some succumb to suicidal thoughts
      Eight to Ten years after coming home almost eight-hundred-thousand men are
      still fighting the Vietnam War ”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcFFEjq5Ap8

      And almost 6 million Israeli Jews are still fighting WW2 while suffering from the symptoms of years of Ziocaine abuse

    • yonah fredman
      October 21, 2014, 6:20 pm

      seafoid- your speculations regarding the reasons for Amos Oz’s mother’s suicide are either cruel or childish/moronic. chose one.

      • seafoid
        October 22, 2014, 1:03 am

        Let’s go there, Yonah.

        Jewish WW2 trauma is at the heart of Ashkenazi behavior towards the Palestinians. Sephardim such as Danon adopted it to gain power in Israel.

        Israelis are like people anywhere- most don’t think and do what they are told. But for the ones with insight, the ones who feel, there were people in 1948 who saw what was happening, who thought that the whole project was a crock of shit. I think his mother was one of them. The ones who saw beyond the frenzied nation building energy and knew it would never make up for what was lost.

        Look at it now. A complete emotional mess.

        And killing Gazan kids will never compensate for what the Nazis did in Vilna.

      • Mooser
        October 22, 2014, 11:33 am

        “your speculations regarding the reasons for Amos Oz’s mother’s suicide are either cruel or childish/moronic. chose one.”

        Gee, I could almost say they are a lot like Yonah’s “speculations regarding the reasons” the Palestinians cause themselves all the suffering they endure.

      • Mooser
        October 22, 2014, 11:38 am

        “And killing Gazan kids will never compensate for what the Nazis did in Vilna.”

        Oh, I don’t think any Zionist would contend that it does, just that they have the right (just as another nation the Germans had) to find out if it does.

      • yonah fredman
        October 22, 2014, 8:48 pm

        seafoid- Maybe i treat dead people with too much respect, maybe i treat suicides with too much respect, but then again maybe not. If you have some evidence that oz’s mother’s suicide was politically motivated, supply it, otherwise, “i think she was one of them” is just pure speculation and using a dead person’s name to give credence to your own views. I view such speculation as some kind of horse manure. You view it as valid. oz’s mother will not sue you. so speculate away. horse manure is free.

      • Annie Robbins
        October 22, 2014, 9:51 pm

        using a dead person’s name to give credence to your own views.

        horse manure? martin luther king ring any bells.

      • Mooser
        October 23, 2014, 5:49 pm

        ” i was raised on robert kennedy “

        Wasn’t that a Joni Mitchell song?

  20. amigo
    October 21, 2014, 3:26 pm

    I wonder if the Beach boys read about this ???>

    “The American rock band The Beach Boys have canceled their planned Tel Aviv concert, which was scheduled to take place on November 29 in the Nokia Stadium.

    Pre-purchased tickets will be refunded.

    The show would have been the band’s first in Israel, and would have capped off a tour stopping at France, Denmark, Norway and Hungary. The tour lineup consists of two bandmembers from the 1960s – Mike Love and Bruce Johnston – and five other musicians.

    As of Tuesday, no reason for the cancelation was provided on the band’s website. ” Haaretz

    http://www.haaretz.com/life/music-theater/1.621971

    • amigo
      October 21, 2014, 3:32 pm

      “I wonder if the Beach boys read about this ???>” Amigo.

      I was referring to this article about the arrest of the 11 year old by the IDF.

  21. eGuard
    October 21, 2014, 3:39 pm

    Another successful thread hijacking by yonah. Why publish the video at all when you then allow the comments to go off topic & off track, nullifying the post?

    • Mooser
      October 22, 2014, 12:47 pm

      “Another successful thread hijacking by yonah.”

      It’ll stop soon. Most of the time he’s fairly well ignored, but sometimes, well…

  22. Bornajoo
    October 21, 2014, 4:38 pm

    @mgsoulcraft
    You describe the site as “shameful” and at the same time you insult Annie and call her the “worst of the worst”. Yet she didn’t censor your comment and even took the time to reply to you. That’s not shameful, that’s pretty damned decent and very democratic if you ask me. Are there any pro-zionists sites that would afford the same courtesy? It’s strange because as a Jew, when I read this site I really do see it as one that reflects and portrays the actual facts on the ground. All we get from the other side is the same old hasbara.

    “it turns out the kid was only held for 15 min”. Actually he’s only 11 years old, had his hands tied behind his back, blindfolded and then put face down into the jeep. He was only released after 15 mins because his father managed to convince the 2 hero soldiers he was mentally disabled. so that’s perfectly okay in your book? You don’t see anything wrong with doing that to an 11 year old CHILD? you actually cannot see why Annie and the rest of us are outraged? Mondoweiss is “shameful” for pointing this out? Really? If that’s the case please seek psychiatric help urgently.

    • Annie Robbins
      October 22, 2014, 12:00 pm

      He was only released after 15 mins because his father managed to convince the 2 hero soldiers he was mentally disabled.

      i actually thought about this part a lot but didn’t add any commentary to this part of b’tselem’s report because i thought where my mind went with it was perhaps too much speculation to warrant publication in the main body of the text.

      but here goes (since i think comment threads hold different standards). b’tselem said the boy was mentally disabled and cannot speak.

      well, it’s likely the soldiers there are receiving instructions and approval of their actions up the chain of command (phones or walkie talkies or whatever). the palestinian community was telling the soldiers the boy was mentally disable while all this was going on. so they knew that already. but what made them let the boy go may not have been (just)the information he was mentally disabled. it may have had more to do with the understanding he was disabled in such a way as to make him mute. for we all know what they do to these children when they bring them in. they use them to find out information on others. they use them to get them to collaborate, they manipulate them through trying to garner information from them. (as well as torture and threaten to rape their sisters and stuff like that)

      the boy could have been released simply because he could not be of use to them, once the commander found out the child could not speak.

      • adele
        October 22, 2014, 12:30 pm

        very astute observation Annie. It is far easier from the IDF/Shin Bet’s perspective to put pressure (psychologically and physically) and get information from a child than it is an adult. We know that Bassem al-Tamimi was arrested after they arrested a young boy from his family (nephew, cousin – I don’t recall) and coerced “testimony” from the child. That child has to live with that guilt and shame, in addition to the emotional scars from his prison experience.

        During the 1st intifada, parents would warn their children/teens that if they got arrested not to reveal any information, that it would be far worse for them if they were suspected of collaborating….and the lawyers also told them that it is near impossible to secure their release if they admitted to anything. I heard many anecdotes about this, enough to realize it was commonplace, it was a part of children’s way of understanding how to behave in their world. That in and of itself is a both a reflection, and indictment, of the draconian system of occupation the Palestinians live under.

  23. American
    October 21, 2014, 6:02 pm

    ” Just look at those IDF pictures of soldiers abusing Palestinians.
    Why can’t Israel be a normal country? Because it’s run on trauma”….seafood

    I don’t think you can claim the trauma excuse for the IDF.
    They have never fought any protracted war like WWI or Vietnam or Iraq. To compare them to the veterans of real wars is actually an insult to others veterans.
    They haven’t been traumatized , they are living in a society in which they are ‘The Supremes’—-I hardly call that traumatizing.
    These young Israelis in the IDF are run on the hate they got in their zionist milk.
    It’s hate , not trauma that makes them what they are.

    • Mooser
      October 23, 2014, 4:19 pm

      “It’s hate , not trauma that makes them what they are.”

      It’s worse than trauma, actually. It’s vicarious trauma, PTSD-by-proxy. That way, it can be anything you need it to be, whereas real trauma has real consequences.

      • seafoid
        October 23, 2014, 4:47 pm

        Something like the Shoah reverberates down the generations. Look at other victims of genocide such as Native Americans and how long it took activists to change the narrative.
        Spiritual suffering on that level can’t be disappeared by putting on an IDF uniform. Wife beating stats are still missing for Israel during war time AFAIK….

        Philip Stephens had a big article on the FT about Israel losing its friends the other day . Zionism is fundamentally not rational which must have a big trauma component.

  24. amigo
    October 22, 2014, 7:03 am

    “I don’t think you can claim the trauma excuse for the IDF.” American

    I believe Seafoid was referring to the Trauma that the GOI feeds it,s population and hence the idf get,s away with this brutality.

    Trauma leads to victimhood = security concerns = anything goes.

  25. Bornajoo
    October 22, 2014, 9:54 am

    @American
    It is evil
    But there was a collective trauma which has now been repackaged as fear, victim-hood and paranoia and passed down into the younger generations. Recently the right wing government has announced that they will actually be expanding Holocaust studies in order to ensure that the trauma-transfer is done as effectively as possible. If you haven’t seen Yoav Shamir’s film Defamation there is a revealing scene when the young Israelis are visiting Auschwitz. Here is the link to the film

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au1w7a_fbZY

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