Sony email chain on behalf of Israel joined Russell Simmons and Michael Lynton with rightwing Zionists

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Gawker has a juicy post up that everyone is sending around this morning: it’s about a group email that was leaked from the hacking of Sony; and the subject is the Gaza war of last summer. Gawker is excited by the celebrity gossip: Natalie Portman got angry at producer Ryan Kavanaugh for copying her with a group of nearly 40 others, thereby ruining that email account.

But the heart of the exchange is Kavanaugh’s concern that rage toward Israel over Gaza will result in another Holocaust. And hiphop producer Russell Simmons responds in sympathy to Kavanaugh.

The elite email group includes Sony’s CEO Michael Lynton, Hollywood producers, Republican Israel supporter Frank Luntz, and Rabbi Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

The email chain began with a note about Gaza last August — “Is the Gaza War Really Over?” — from producer Ron Rotholz, who, according to Gawker, “has the habit of forwarding urgent articles about anti-Semitism and Israel to a circle of colleagues and friends… More than a dozen such forwards… can be located in the inbox of Sony Entertainment CEO Michael Lynton, who seems to mostly ignore them.”

Fuel the MomentumKavanaugh responds to the group with a frantic note about declining support for Israel:

Before the summer 50 percent of college students supported israel, today less the 25 percent do. There are hate crimes against heed [sic] happening in almost every major metropolitan city, now including the US.

We have let this happen. And it’s our job to keep another Hollacast from happening. Many of you may think that can’t happen, that is extreme. My Grandmother told me over and over again remember no one believed it could happen and everyone thought the government would not allow it to. It took 5 years before the us stepped in, and 12 million dead.

If you pull newspapers from pre Hollacast it seems eerily close to our world today.

You may recall that Kavanaugh was vehement last summer against Penelope Cruz and Javier Bardem when they said Israel was guilty of genocide in Gaza. Kavanaugh wanted Hollywood to cut them off at the knees.

Russell Simmons then responds sympathetically to the group:

Simple messaging from non Jews specifically from Muslims promoting peace and Israel’s right to exist. Should be spread. (Possibly using statements from Hamas leadership in this branding exercise) could be a unifying force. U have ken sunshine on the chain. We have resources and the desire to win rather then loose the hearts of young Muslims and Jews. Our love for innocent suffering Palestinians must be a strong part of our messaging.

With great love all things are possible

Gawker’s Sam Biddle writes:

Simmons’ suggestion is close to the hilarious one that former Time editor and current Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs Rick Stengel posed to Lynton in a separate email a week or two later: “My question is, who is the Muslim Bob Geldof? What if there were a Muslim Anti-ISIL We Are the World video/concert? It could have Muslim artists from all over the world plus hip hop stars.”

I’ll spare you the rest of the aimless debate over peace in the Middle East and Israeli self-defense—which took place entirely between Kavanaugh, Simmons, Rotholz and not a single other member of the 39-strong reply-all group..

I don’t think this kind of group email is meaningless. Frank Luntz is a rightwing Zionist pollster who has promoted PM Netanyahu over President Obama. Marvin Hier is a rightwinger too. Simmons is an outspoken Democrat, but he is obviously concerned about saying the right thing re Israel to a group that includes powerful folks. Yes: also some concern for “innocent Palestinians,” as opposed to Hamas. Despite Portman’s demurral, the email chain here surely represents a cultural consensus about Israel inside the establishment. The fact that Rick Stengel of the State Department also reached out at that time to Lynton– both men are of Jewish descent (and Stengel is an old friend of mine, and a good guy)– is no conspiracy but a reflection of The Powers That Be in this day and age. The same cultural consensus was evident when Democrat Haim Saban and Republican Sheldon Adelson got together and mused about bombing Iran and buying the New York Times to guarantee its support for Israel. Haaretz at that time said archly, “It was like a scene out of ‘The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.’ Two immensely wealthy Jews, key financiers of the main political parties of the world’s superpower, discussing how to wage war on the enemies of the Jews, and control the media and presidents.” It’s easy for an Israeli outlet to make that kind of conspiratorial comment; it has the excuse that it is talking amongst Jews in a confidential manner and not to a general public who might conceive a prejudice against Jews. But this is also the embarrassment of the Sony email chain: it is a reflection of Jewish power inside the establishment in support of Israel, in the midst of a massacre.

Update:  Just now on WNYC, Lucinda Franks said that her husband Robert Morgenthau, the former NY DA, is working in retirement with the Mossad to catch terrorists. Jeez. It never ends.

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  1. Blownaway
    December 24, 2014, 11:46 am

    Geez if anyone were to say that this kind of letter and collaboration existed they would be accused of anti semitism and blood libel ala protocols. The truth is much more scary.

  2. Rooster
    December 24, 2014, 12:04 pm

    Amazing that people who wield such influence and have such strong, though misinformed and disinformed, opinions cannot be troubled to learn that it is not spelled “Hollacast.”

    Such ignorance, even regarding positions that they regard so highly, they are willing to whitewash war crimes over them.

    But it does suggest that as the Palestinian narrative becomes more mainstream, that more dissent should arise, even among the elite. That the blind support for Israel is, at least for some, hopefully less out of fanaticism and more out of ignorance.

    Therefore, the more Palestinians are humanized, the more likely those who were once adversarial regarding support for Palestinian equality will become allies for change.

    • RoHa
      December 24, 2014, 7:26 pm

      Nor can one of them spell “lose”. Simple four-letter word.

      • dmm
        December 25, 2014, 1:29 am

        So Einstein, if you’re going to seize on “lose”, why did you not do so on “then”? Didn’t quite notice that, or just not sure how to spell a simple four-letter word? And both of you spelling demons are just as lame-brained as Phil. Those who support Israel are not ignorant; those who castigate it for defending itself and its laying claim to its own land are. And really, “Rooster” — or possibly you should just go by “Cock”?? — you have to have walnuts for brains to believe support for Israel is “blind”. You’re just another leftwing sop, probably never read an actual book on Israel or visited it once in your life… your opinions are formed purely from the nutty soup you get off the Internet and the NYT.

      • just
        December 25, 2014, 8:51 am

        You’ve made an “interesting” entrance, dmm.

        Did someone pee in your Cheerios this morning?

      • kma
        December 25, 2014, 10:57 am

        also, as “dmm” demonstrates, the use of obnoxious personal attacks to argue your point is a tactic that belongs to the zionists.

      • Mooser
        December 25, 2014, 12:08 pm

        “You’re just another leftwing sop, probably never read an actual book on Israel or visited it once in your life…”

        You can’t tell people to go visit a place that nobody knows where it is! You tell me where “Israel” is, and I’ll go visit it.

        Stick to recommending coffee-table books and Leon Uris. An actual visit to Israel can be eye-opening.

      • Daniel Rich
        December 25, 2014, 5:51 pm

        @ Mooser,

        Q: An actual visit to Israel can be eye-opening.

        R: Not when you [collectively] stare at 5 dancing shadows on a wall.

        My mom refers to it as ‘brain brushing.’

      • RoHa
        December 25, 2014, 6:05 pm

        Pick out every sign of illiteracy in that stuff? Just one example sufficed.

        “probably never read an actual book on Israel or visited it once in your life… your opinions are formed purely from the nutty soup you get off the Internet and the NYT. ”

        I’ve been reading about Israel and the ME since 1965, long before the Internet was invented.

        I have read about three copies of the NYT in my life, but it baffles me why you think a leftwing sop like me would get his opinions from an American right-wing Zionist newspaper.

  3. Peter Feld
    December 24, 2014, 12:21 pm

    It’s right to call out the insidery assumption of support for Israel, but don’t underestimate the eye-rolling from everyone else who ignored the emails. Kavanaugh comes off as spectrum-scale tone-deaf and dumb as two bricks. He calls it the “Hollacast” (search Twitter for Hollacast for a laugh) and writes:

    The problem is that Moore ‘ law is kicking in. Before the summer 50 percent of college students supported israel, today less the 25 percent do.

    Moore’s Law (@andyblewis said) is about computers, not Jews. And see how Kavanaugh mocks Natalie Portman for complaining that he exposed her info:

    “Sorry,” he replied. “You are right jews being slaughtered for their beliefs and cannes members calling for the boycott of anything Israel or Jewish is much much less important then your email address being shared with 20 of our peers who are trying to make a difference. my deepest apologies.” (Grimace emoji.)

    Producers with a hit film under their belt must have such contempt for stars that someone like Kavanaugh would continue to abuse Portman’s email after being asked to stop (and likewise, would publicly attack Cruz and Bardem). But busy Hollywood movers and shakers have got to resent the constant interruptions and think poorly of the crude, illiterate idiot behind them and his arguments. Being identified with this kind of boorishness isn’t helping Israel.

    • dmm
      December 25, 2014, 1:32 am

      Don’t worry yourself Peter, we’re not “identified with boorishness.” And even if we were, it would beat being identified as an idiot.

      • Annie Robbins
        December 25, 2014, 6:13 am

        Don’t worry yourself Peter, we’re not “identified with boorishness.”

        we? i’m confused, who are you speaking for? are you identifying/typecasting yourself w/Kavanaugh and the mentality behind his hollacast email?

        And even if we were, it would beat being identified as an idiot.

        ok. maybe you could explain what you think is behind that spelling. i’m finding it almost unfathomable he doesn’t know how to spell holocaust. or do you agree he’s an idiot?

  4. joer
    December 24, 2014, 1:13 pm

    You can get an idea about how much these people actually read about these issues by the misspelling of “Holocaust”. I’m not a stickler about spelling, but when someone can’t even spell the thing they are most concerned about, it leads me to believe they don’t see the word written out because they don’t do a lot of reading about it. Rather than developing an informed opinion, they are operating from a place of pure emotion.

  5. michelle
    December 24, 2014, 1:34 pm

    .
    the thing is for most people
    it will never be about being (or not being) Jewish
    it will always be about the need for every & all to be treated honestly
    we all should hope that one day every & all will work together in this effort
    all for one justice
    .
    Merry Christmas every & all
    .
    Thank You G-d for The Gift that keeps on Giving
    .
    G-d Bless Us Everyone
    .

  6. amigo
    December 24, 2014, 1:39 pm

    “If you pull newspapers from pre Hollacast it seems eerily close to our world today. “Kavanaugh.

    ffs, were Jews occupying Palestine in the 30,s /40,s.Were Jews demolishing Houses or attacking Protesters dressed as Santa Claus.Were Jews in contravention of hundreds of UN resolutions.

    For Christ-mass sake , give us a break with this pathetic muck.

    This idiot Kavanaugh can,t even spell Holocaust correctly.

    • dmm
      December 25, 2014, 1:39 am

      Hmm… I wouldn’t criticize his spelling, amigo. Your — ahem — “typing” leaves something to be desired. You may want to research the character known as an apostrophe, and the difference between it and a comma. Also, look into question marks while you’re at it. Spaces after periods are a wonderful new invention as well. Capitalizing nouns mid-sentence is something the Germans are fond of, but not many others. And finally, to answer your rather odd question: Yes, Jews occupied Palestine in both the 30s and 40s… we’ve been there for a few thousand years, in fact.

      • mikeo
        December 25, 2014, 6:54 am

        Four posts in the thread already!
        You’re new here aren’t you?
        Don’t use up all your energy straight away – because somehow I have the feeling you won’t last very long if you keep this up… : )

      • amigo
        December 25, 2014, 7:31 am

        Not the brightest bulb on the tree , eh, dmm.

        One would expect Kavanaugh to at least be able to spell “Holocaust” correctly as he claims to be so concerned about the possibility of a repeat.

        As to my grammar, at least it is on the right side of history.

        Welcome to MW.Better keep your head down.Lots of anti troll missiles flying around here.I shall watch your progress with amusement.I give you two months at best, because I am in a Festive spirit.

      • Marnie
        December 25, 2014, 11:28 am

        What’s all your attitude about dmm? You just walked in with a major chip on your shoulder about something. This isn’t Arutz Sheva, in case you’re lost. That would out the door and to the right, keep right, stay right, you find it as long as you keep to the right.

      • just
        December 25, 2014, 11:46 am

        Exactly, Marnie!

      • Mooser
        December 25, 2014, 12:12 pm

        “Yes, Jews occupied Palestine in both the 30s and 40s”

        “dmm” my friend, are you sure “occupied” is the mot jewste? Wouldn’t you rather avoid the word “occupied”?

      • Daniel Rich
        December 25, 2014, 6:01 pm

        dimm,

        Q: Yes, Jews occupied Palestine in both the 30s and 40s… we’ve been there for a few thousand years, in fact.

        R: But so many zionists told me even Mark Twain wrote about the fact that the land was empty… Now I’m confused [to say the least].

        Shooting at Palestinian may make you fee like a real gunslinger, but here at the MW Coral we don’t shoot from the hip, most try to use their brain cells instead. and some even fire on all cylinders [wait until you meet Hostage].

        Tough nut to crack, I’ll give you that, but looking at your [virtual] bravado, you must have cojones the size of coconuts.

        Milk away.

  7. Annie Robbins
    December 24, 2014, 1:55 pm

    i have no idea what to make of this weird spelling, not once but twice in an email. could anyone be that clueless? the other thing that jumped out at me from the email was

    “Before the summer 50 percent of college students supported israel, today less the 25 percent do.

    i had not heard that figure before. this is fantastic if true. i wonder if it’s privileged information? it appears he’s an acquaintance of luntz, who is someone who would know. but it’s not the sort of info an israel supporter would want to get out to the general public. so, anyone else heard this figure before? and let’s get that number down to 7% and fast. then 2%, then .02%.

    • Mooser
      December 24, 2014, 3:31 pm

      “i have no idea what to make of this weird spelling, not once but twice in an email.”

      Yes, I was confused to, and wondered if he was referring to something that happened (and some bad things did happen) in the Hawaiian Islands, or perhaps a plant epidemic.

      • just
        December 24, 2014, 3:43 pm

        A weird sort of contraction of ‘Hollywood’ & ‘cast’~ brain monorail ?

        Lousy education? Lunacy? Inside joke?

      • Mooser
        December 24, 2014, 7:00 pm

        It was a rumored (but never effected) plot to do away with tourists as soon as they got on the Island, called the Alohacaust, and the Hollycaust may be related to ash-dieback. Who knows?

      • kma
        December 25, 2014, 11:09 am

        I kinda thought they meant “HollowCast”, as in “Seth Rogen”…

      • Annie Robbins
        December 25, 2014, 11:31 am

        i thought maybe it was short for “hollywood cast” or maybe it was some code or something. naturally i googled it (like millions of others by now no doubt) but nothing. there seems to be no record of this spelling used by others. again, i find it unfathomable he doesn’t know how to spell it or that seeking to spell it he came up w/this strange spelling. someone should ask him for an explanation. where’s abe foxman when we need him?

  8. amigo
    December 24, 2014, 2:30 pm

    “My Grandmother told me over and over again remember no one believed it could happen and everyone thought the government would not allow it to. It took 5 years before the us stepped in, and 12 million dead.”

    Am I missing something or can he not count either.Where does he get 12 million from.

    • oldgeezer
      December 24, 2014, 2:56 pm

      That would generally be a rough number of total concentration camp victims.

      • joemowrey
        December 24, 2014, 3:28 pm

        Yes. Eleven million is often used also. The reason we only hear about “the 6 million” is because of the Zionists’ exclusive focus on the Jewish victims, which totaled approximately 6 million. The loss of memory about the other 5 to 6 million says a lot about the exploitation of the Holocaust by Zionists for their own, Jewish-centric purposes. Remember, for hard core Zionists, only Jewish lives are important.

      • just
        December 24, 2014, 3:47 pm

        Yep.

        So now someone’s finally standing up for the “others”……….hm.

      • amigo
        December 24, 2014, 4:21 pm

        “That would generally be a rough number of total concentration camp victims.” o;ldgeezer.

        You are most likely correct but it is dangerous to suggest symmetry when referring to the Holocaust

      • tree
        December 24, 2014, 5:44 pm

        I’ve heard the 12 million figure dying in the concentration camps myself, tracing it back, as I recall, to William Shirer’s Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, written in the 60’s, which I read in the seventies. Since its now accepted history that less than half the Jews who were killed in WWII died in the concentration camps, if the 12 million figure is correct then that would mean that at least 9 million non-Jews died in the concentration camps. I’m not sure that is correct, and can’t find any exact figures for total concentration camp deaths in a quick search.

        In any case, the estimated civilian death toll in WWII is on the order of anywhere from 38 million to 55 million people, so the 12 million figure really makes no sense in the context of the email, unless you totally ignore those deaths as if they didn’t count. I’ve come to the realization that separating out the Holocaust from the rest of WWII, of which it was a part, is wrong and in fact dangerous, especially since the Holocaust is usually invoked in support of war and has resulted in large numbers of civilian deaths, rather than preventing deaths.

      • just
        December 24, 2014, 5:58 pm

        Good points, tree. Very sad ones, too.

      • Philip Munger
        December 24, 2014, 6:55 pm

        Replying to tree’s

        I’ve come to the realization that separating out the Holocaust from the rest of WWII, of which it was a part, is wrong and in fact dangerous, especially since the Holocaust is usually invoked in support of war and has resulted in large numbers of civilian deaths, rather than preventing deaths.

        The Red Army began liberating concentration and extermination camps in eastern Europe in the summer of 1944, long before the UK and US forces entered the much smaller camps in Germany itself. When the Soviet government invited reporters to visit Majdanek in August 1944, the USSR had already taken the view that the Nazi crimes were against Jews, Slavs, disabled people, Roma and communists/socialists, with Jews being particularly heavily targeted.

        The initial Soviet estimate of Jews (and others) killed at Majdanek was quite high, but even then, the Soviet position was that though the Nazis went first for the disabled, Jews and Roma, they would have eventually gotten around to other groups, using the same means of labor and/or extermination.

        At the time, American journalist and author, Alexander Werth, reporting on Majdanek for the BBC, filed reports describing both the horrendous nature of the place, and the USSR’s insistence that Nazi death camps weren’t just about Jews. Initially, BBC refused to believe the scale of death Werth described could be possible.

        As Soviet forces moved into central Poland, more and more of these places were discovered.

        It should be remembered, though, that the Red Army had been aware since the winter of 1941-42 that the Germans were starving millions of Soviet soldiers to death in camps far less sinister or methodical in their mechanization than the labor-death factories, merely by not feeding them at all. They were aware that of millions of Russians, Ukrainians and other Soviet citizens enslaved into the Nazi war machine, hundreds of thousands were perishing.

        OTOH, soon after the Red Army liberated Majdanek, the NKVD took up residence there.

        Re Ryan Kavanaugh’s sense of history – Producing movies in Hollywood seems to erode most producers’ acuity toward historical perspective, so he has lots of company.

      • RoHa
        December 24, 2014, 7:46 pm

        “I’ve come to the realization that separating out the Holocaust from the rest of WWII, of which it was a part, is wrong and in fact dangerous”

        Exactly. It is proclaiming that only some deaths are important, only some people count.

        20,000,000 (?) Chinese civilians.
        4,000,000 Indonesian civilians.
        Over 3,000,000 Bengalis starved (by Churchill’s order.)

        But hardly any mention of them. It is a disgusting attitude.

      • Daniel Rich
        December 25, 2014, 4:25 am

        ` Philip Munger,

        Katyn Massacre.

        “The government of Nazi Germany announced the discovery of mass graves in the Katyn Forest in 1943. When the London-based Polish government-in-exile asked for an investigation by the International Red Cross, Stalin immediately severed diplomatic relations with it. The Soviet Union claimed the victims had been murdered by the Nazis in 1941, and continued to deny responsibility for the massacres until 1990, when it officially acknowledged and condemned the perpetration of the killings by the NKVD, as well as the subsequent cover-up by the Soviet government.[1][2][3][a]” LINK to wiki

        May the Russians have had a reason to depict the Germans as bigger monsters than they themselves were at that time [and the near future]?

      • CigarGod
        December 25, 2014, 11:14 am

        Just like now, in usa…or in just about any other country on the planet…prison budgets (the actual feeding, housing, medical parts) are the lowest priority. Same held true, of course for nazi germany…as it died. Camps got nothing…because there was nothing…even for citizens. Israel does the same for palestine. Low budget, low priority. Of course putting them on a diet is a higher priority. Okay…bomb me.

      • Mooser
        December 25, 2014, 12:41 pm

        “Exactly. It is proclaiming that only some deaths are important, only some people count.”

        I am made uneasy by the idea that only Jews can suffer or suffered genocide. I’d like everybody to be afraid of it, not on my behalf, but for themselves..

  9. a blah chick
    December 24, 2014, 6:40 pm

    “Lucinda Franks said that her husband Robert Morgenthau, the former NY DA, is working in retirement with the Mossad to catch terrorists”

    According to Wikipedia Mr Morgenthau is a spray 95. Hope those terrorists aren’t too fast.

  10. JLewisDickerson
    December 24, 2014, 10:57 pm

    RE: “Natalie Portman got angry at producer Ryan Kavanaugh for copying her with a group of nearly 40 others, thereby ruining that email account.” ~ Weiss

    AN INTERESTING PORTMAN FILM: Free Zone, 2005 NR 90 minutes
    Netflix’s best guess for me: 4.3 stars (I rated it 5/5 on Netflix, and 8/10 on IMDb)
    Average of 27203 ratings: 2.6 stars
    Hana Laszlo won a Cannes Best Actress award for her portrayal of Hanna, an Israeli taxi driver, in this drama. Headed to the Free Zone* to collect money owed to her husband, Hanna picks up Rebecca (Natalie Portman), a frazzled American who begs to come along. But retrieving the money won’t be easy; the two wind up on a strange journey with a Palestinian woman (Hiam Abbass) who reveals that Hanna’s debtor has vanished, along with all of his loot.
    Director: Amos Gitaihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_Gitai
    Writers: Amos Gitai, Marie-Jose Sanselmehttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm0763035/
    Cast: Natalie Portman, Hana Laszlo, Hiam Abbass, more…
    Genres: Foreign, Foreign Dramas, Israel (some Jordanian funding), Hebrew Language
    Language: Hebrew (with some English, and a bit of Arabic) [English subtitles for the Hebrew and Arabic]
    Netflix format: DVD
    • Netflix listing – http://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/70035175
    • Internet Movie Database (Ratings: 5.9/10 from 2,390 users) – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0441761/
    • Trailer de “Free Zone” [VIDEO, 01:56] – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdBxel9KZcg

    * An economic ‘Free Zone’ was established by Jordan in Aqaba in August 2000. It covers one million square metres, although an additional 2.5 million sq. m. has been allocated for the purpose of establishing industrial projects. Goods traded in the Free Zone are exempt of duty.
    Aqaba The Oasis and beyond فلم العقبة السياحي [VIDEO, 05:28] – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loQum-nI_aE

  11. PeaceThroughJustice
    December 24, 2014, 11:45 pm

    “the email chain here surely represents a cultural consensus about Israel inside the establishment.”

    But Americans are never going to understand why this is so until we can start to mention that virtually the entire group is Jewish — not just Sony CEO Lynton and Luntz and Portman and Stengel, but also producer Ryan Kavanaugh who started the chain. In fact, only one person in Phil’s list of characters in this episode is not Jewish — and that’s Russell Simmons who is a Transcendental Meditationist.

    Talk about cultural influence.

  12. Daniel Rich
    December 25, 2014, 4:13 am

    Will ‘The Interview 2; the sequel” be about 2 Russian Mormons Morons assassinating Netanyahoo?

  13. Pixel
    December 25, 2014, 5:28 am

    Anyone questioning this spelling will soon be labeled a “Hollacast Denier”.

  14. Marnie
    December 25, 2014, 11:25 am

    I think hollacast is some weird attempt to be hip or something? Holocaust is so depressing but hollacast ? Makes me think of Gwen Stefani with “Hollaback Girl” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgjkth6BRRY

    which I don’t think is the point but hollacast is so freaking strange .

    • Mooser
      December 25, 2014, 12:17 pm

      Also, isn’t ‘spel-check’ just about ubiquitous in text applications?

      • Marnie
        December 27, 2014, 10:54 am

        Hi Mooser –
        I don’t know another way to do this but I apologize for jumping on you on another thread about knowing God protects me (IDF/dogs/netanyahu piece). I took your comment as a mockery of mine and that’s why I reacted like a beach. I’m having such a hard time discerning someone joking or being a dick to me. Sorry for assuming the worst.

      • Mooser
        December 28, 2014, 12:08 pm

        Oh, pshaw, I bet I had it coming, and plenty more besides! Don’t give it a thought.

    • German Lefty
      December 25, 2014, 4:25 pm

      Marnie: Makes me think of Gwen Stefani with “Hollaback Girl”

      Thanks for mentioning. I knew that the spelling of “Hollacast” looks familiar but I couldn’t remember what word it reminded me of.

      Why can’t rich guys spend a few dollars on a dictionary?

      Russell Simmons was in a relationship with German model Hana Nitsche. I wonder if they have ever discussed the conflict.

      • Daniel Rich
        December 25, 2014, 6:13 pm

        @ German Lefty,

        Q: Russell Simmons was in a relationship with German model Hana Nitsche. I wonder if they have ever discussed the conflict.

        R: According to the rumor mill, she whispered during a ménage à trois, “Together you have the Führer’s eyes…”

        A line that sent sample director/writer Quarentino into a tailspin, as he feverishly penned down on a new script, with the assumed working title of ‘Glowing Bastards.’

      • CigarGod
        December 25, 2014, 6:31 pm

        Im sure they have…hasnt everyone?

  15. CigarGod
    December 25, 2014, 1:02 pm

    Dmm’s idea that by “visiting” or “reading a book” qualifies someone as an expert and to speak with authority on the topic is a joke. What he/she means…is reading the books that favor a certain narrative and visiting certain people.
    It’s a common logic fail.

  16. German Lefty
    December 25, 2014, 4:44 pm

    “There are hate crimes against heed [sic] happening in almost every major metropolitan city, now including the US.”

    What does “heed” mean? Probably “heebs”!?
    How can such dumb people be so successful?

    • CigarGod
      December 25, 2014, 6:29 pm

      You only have to be right 51% of the time to be successful. Well…maybe im wrong…it might be like baseball if you have the right team behind you. Batting just .250 will make one a superstar.

  17. jimby
    December 25, 2014, 5:09 pm

    On a different note, I am somewhat pleased to see a major Hollywood Studio take it. I wish that who ever took them down would do it to the rest of the studios. Hollywood has been a propaganda machine since the get go. If they need some “bad guys” they cast some Arabs. Ever since Rudolph Valentino the studios have been demonizing Arabs.

  18. Ramzi Jaber
    December 25, 2014, 5:32 pm

    No surprise here, just confirming what the world suspected except this time with inside evidence so the messenger is not accused of anti-semitism and anti-zionism.

    Anonymous, other hackers, and courageous whistleblowers will provide more and more info from the inside. Heroes like Julian Assange, Chelsea (Bradley) Manning, and Edward Snowden will shed light on the dark conspiracies of aipac and others. I’m certain soon someone from inside aipac will say the total truth.

    When the world suspected that most traditional news organizations, entertainment empires, and financial institutions are biased towards zionism, the world was accused of being anti-semitic, anti-zionist, and anti-israel. Well, the fact that these groups and organizations and companies are run by zionists cannot be denied.

    zionists organizations globally plan their agendas and coordinate their activities on a regular basis………….
    – the world zionist organization
    – the world jewish congress
    – the “x” jewish congress (replace “x” with any name of country, city, etc.)
    – the zionist organization of america
    – the anti-defamation league
    – the jewish agency for israel
    – aipac
    – the jewish national fund
    – top zionists families
    – top zionists politicians
    – top entertainment moguls (started when zionists allied with the mafia to open up vegas and hollywood)
    – etc. etc. etc.

    THEY ALL do their annual strategic planning with the goal of identifying who to target either for continued support (i.e. brainwashing and/or blackmailing) or to add to their column or to seek those up-and-comers in politics, business, entertainment, etc. and get them on board of the zionist train.

    indeed this is happening. For those who don’t believe it should check the tax filings of these “charitable” 501(c) organizations.
    http://www.guidestar.org/
    – 613 results for “zionist”
    – 9,651 results for “jewish”
    – 2,505 for “israel”

    So yes, we Palestinians are up against a formidable force. However, this force has started to be built over 50 years ago in the us. But it has now reached its peak and started to go down. It takes a lot of work to win against a force that’s been organizing for that long but we’re chipping away at it.

    1S1P1V is the only answer. And it’s coming sooner than people think.

    Merry Christmas.

  19. Daniel Rich
    December 25, 2014, 5:45 pm

    The Sony hack has also revealed Samuel L. Jackson’s new flick, ‘Palestinians on a Plane.’

    Excerpts of the top secret scenario: “Don’t say, ‘Merry Christmas!’ ” the man raged before lecturing the attendants and the pilot about their faux pas.

    The crew tried to calm the unidentified man, but he refused to back down and continued hectoring them.

    He was escorted off the plane as other fliers burst into cheers and applause.”

    LINK

  20. Reds
    December 25, 2014, 5:59 pm

    So went online to research Simmons and Israel and found out he got into a lot of heat when he compared Abe Foxman to a Muslims black leader in regards to blacks distain for Foxman. He was attacked and smear all around and happen after he also confused Sharon with Peres. My guess was it was his was as SNL’ing the donkey. He also backed down on Foxman while Foxman used Huff Post to attack him some more. My guess is the folks on the email have good relations with Foxman.

    As Fir Portman and others I doubt she disagreed with it only that too many others were on the list.

  21. MRW
    December 25, 2014, 8:28 pm

    Does anyone understand the tedium these circumlocutions are having on non-Jews? They’re not doing themselves any favors. Why should non-Jews stand up for this lack of self-reflection, this inability to be smart or intelligent?

    • ritzl
      December 26, 2014, 11:01 am

      Thanks, MRW. No basis for support. Non-consensual. Coerced attention. Short-timey.

    • Mooser
      December 27, 2014, 10:58 am

      “Why should non-Jews stand up for this lack of self-reflection, this inability to be smart or intelligent?”

      Because their son or daughter is married to one? Because we pay so well? There’s lot’s of reasons. I’ve never noticed that non-Jews are obligated to reject cruel but profitable absurdities.
      It’s certainly possible to share one.

      • RoHa
        December 27, 2014, 6:05 pm

        Everyone is obligated to reject cruel absurdities.

  22. MRW
    December 25, 2014, 8:32 pm

    CBS News reporting that the hacker was possibly internal, a woman named “Lena” who worked for SONY for 10 years in LA, quit last May, and whose original demand was for money. Had nothing to do with a film.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-the-fbi-get-it-wrong-on-north-korea/

  23. Krendall Mist
    December 25, 2014, 9:57 pm

    The aspect of the “hacked’ Sony emails that got some initial attention but has since disappeared entirely was our Jewish hollywood mogul contempt and race hatred for the schwartze. Didn’t seem to hear from the ADL about mocking suggestions about Obama being partial to Django Unchained. The infotainment industry’s perennial overtly racist presentation of African Americans reflects the culture of these insulated self-absorbed tribal cultists.

  24. Marnie
    December 26, 2014, 6:09 am

    Not that anyone asked me, but I think making a movie with the plot involving the attempted assasination of the dear leader of North Korea is disgusting. I would be equally disgusted if a movie was made with the plot being attempted assasination of a sitting US president or the leader of let’s say, hmm, oh all right, Israel. Maybe after a bong or 10 anything is funny but some funny ideas should stay in the drawning room and never reach a screen.

    • jimby
      December 26, 2014, 9:09 am

      I lived in Paris in the 70’s and during that time the french made a movie about a Red Chinese invasion of France. It seems that the chinese invaders after a while became decadent and soft like the French. ha ha… A terrible noise was heard from Beijing and the movie was not released.

    • Boomer
      December 26, 2014, 9:50 am

      Marnie, I also have problems with the portrayal of the CIA as an agency that tries to arrange the assassination of a foreign leader. The Daily Beast reported that the hacked emails revealed that two government officials viewed an early cut of the film and were okay with it, which I also find disturbing. It is not as if this were so far-fetched. I recall the time with the CIA was involved in such plots. President Ford banned it. At a time when we have learned that the U.S. tortured prisoners, even tortured some to death, I don’t think such a scene is funny, or in the interest of the U.S.

    • just
      December 26, 2014, 11:12 am

      I think it stupid, gratuitous and inflammatory, Marnie.

      A lot of Hollywood is, imho.

      • CloakAndDagger
        December 26, 2014, 11:43 am

        Seth Rogen is not funny and this is a bad movie – just like his other ones. I downloaded a free copy from bittorrent (I would never spend money to buy a ticket for this) and wasted a few moments of my life watching it – moments I will never get back and toilet humor that I will never unsee or unhear.

        But, because of the media frenzy of the the Sony hack, this movie got record crowds on Christmas day. So, a bad movie becomes a blockbuster.

        I am willing to bet my bottom dollar that North Korea had nothing to do with the hack, and popular belief is that this was done by a disgruntled former employee. Meanwhile, as before, our government rushes out to blame the enemy-du-jour without a shred of evidence (9/11 anyone?). Have we become this stupid as a nation?

      • MRW
        December 26, 2014, 2:15 pm

        @CloakAndDagger,

        I am willing to bet my bottom dollar that North Korea had nothing to do with the hack, and popular belief is that this was done by a disgruntled former employee. Meanwhile, as before, our government rushes out to blame the enemy-du-jour without a shred of evidence (9/11 anyone?). Have we become this stupid as a nation?

        More than a popular belief. It was a cyber security firm (Norse) in SONY’s backyard in LA that decided to look into it independently.

        As for stupidity? Yes.

      • RoHa
        December 26, 2014, 6:39 pm

        I smell publicity stunt.

      • MRW
        December 26, 2014, 6:57 pm

        @Roha,

        And a coverup over the disgruntled employee?

      • CloakAndDagger
        December 27, 2014, 6:42 pm

        @ MRW

        More than a popular belief. It was a cyber security firm (Norse) in SONY’s backyard in LA that decided to look into it independently.

        Yes, I did see that report. It was reported the they were “skeptical” about whether North Korea had anything to do with it. I did not know that they had categorically declared it as being the disgruntled employee (or how they identified it as such), so I went with “popular belief”. Perhaps there is more info now?

  25. Mooser
    December 27, 2014, 11:04 am

    “Cloak and Dagger’s” review is good enough for me.

  26. traintosiberia
    December 29, 2014, 9:36 pm

    “We have let this happen”- Kavanaugh
    Yes Kavanaugh, you have brought this upon yourself from 50% to 20 %
    But one thing is missing : while you see some similarities between now and pre Holoocaust You conveniently ignore the fact that there was no wars between Jews and somebody in 1933 unless you think there were which brought the ho,ocaust upon your great great hand father.

  27. traintosiberia
    April 23, 2015, 11:07 pm

    Sony CEO on Middle East: Let Them All Kill Each Other (Except Israel)

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/us/20150421/1021146018.html#ixzz3YBxlPcxp

    The secrets-spilling group last week republished hundreds of thousands of documents and emails from the hack last fall of Sony Pictures Entertainment. The massive collection includes emails CEO Michael Lynton wrote in response to an October 2014 Washington Post article about President Barack Obama’s foreign policy in Syria. A relative forwarded Lynton the article with the comment “Brilliant.”

    WikiLeaks Docs: Sony Chiefs Met With Cameron Ahead of Scottish Referendum
    “Let them all kill each other!” Lynton wrote in a response email.

    “Face it the entire thing is a gigantic mess. And if it were not for Israel, we would let them all kill each other and wait for the dust to settle.”

    “We don’t need the oil, and I am not sure it is worth the time or effort to try and broker the nations at the edge. It is a dog’s breakfast plain and simple and I am not sure there is any role for America here.”

    “On reflection,” Lynton added, “Israel may be in the catbird seat. Let them all kill each other around the Jewish state and pick up the pieces after they have exhausted themselves.”

    Lynton’s emails also show his active participation in both social and professional events centered on pro-Israel policy.

    he RSVP’d yes to “an intimate salon-style discussion” at the home of Israeli-born American actress Natalie Portman regarding the Israeli conflict. The event was hosted by Jeremy Ben-Ami, the president of J Street, a pro-Israel political group based in the United States.

    The next day, Portman sent Lynton an email with links to websites that contain “accurate Israel and world Jewry journalism.”

    Just a few months later, in February, 2014, Lynton RSVP’d yes to an “intimate dinner” at the home of Israeli producer Arnon Milchan, where Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was among the guests.

    Lynton also leveraged his connections to exercise political influence and promote his pro-Israel beliefs.

    Stengel floated to Lynton, who also oversees Sony’s music labels, the idea of staging a type of “We Are The World” concert as an anti-Islamic State message. He suggested using hip-hop stars and Muslim

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/us/20150421/1021146018.html#ixzz3YBzUMkBF

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