Obama won’t meet Netanyahu during ‘bizarre,’ ‘historic,’ ‘unprecedented’ visit (Updated)

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Update, White House and State Department won’t meet with Netanyahu on his March visit to address both houses of Congress. Emergency Committee for Israel calls this a snub.

AP’s Julia Pace:

White House says Obama will not meet with Netanyahu when he comes to Washington because of visit’s proximity to Israeli elections

More from AP:

Spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan says that in keeping with “long-standing practice and principle,” the president does not meet with heads of state or candidates in close proximity to their elections. Israel is scheduled to hold elections in mid-March.

Matt Lee reports:

#SecKerry will also not meet with #Israel PM Netanyahu on DC visit, per @statedeptspox, citing same reason as for no Obama meeting.

Today the Emergency Committee for Israel released the following statement:

Obama administration to meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu during his visit to the United States:

The Emergency Committee for Israel salutes Speaker Boehner for inviting the Prime Minister of Israel to address Congress. We and millions of Americans look forward to hearing from him on March 3, and we appreciate the Prime Minister taking time out of his re-election campaign to speak to the American people.

It’s unfortunate that President Obama and Secretary Kerry are choosing not to meet with the Prime Minister. But we trust the Israeli people are aware that in snubbing their Prime Minister, President Obama does not represent the views of the great majority of Americans. In order to do our part to make the Israeli Prime Minister feel welcome in Washington, ECI will host a reception in the Prime Minister’s honor to make clear, in case there’s any doubt, that whatever the president does or says, Americans value our friendship with our ally Israel.

Netanyahu is confirmed for the AIPAC policy conference, March 1-3.

Original post:

The Congressional invitation to Benjamin Netanyahu to speak to both houses of Congress, purposely upstaging President Obama’s State of the Union speech on Iran and terrorism the morning after, is a shocker that the MSM can’t ignore.

Last night on NBC Nightly News Chris Jansing called the move an “unprecedented breach” in protocol–allowing a foreign leader to counter the president in the House chamber. The New York Times is far more careful in its treatment, but not Barak Ravid at Haaretz. He says that the invitation was “cooked up” nearly two weeks ago, “behind Obama’s back.”

Speaker Boehner’s invitation was preceded by weeks of contacts between Republican leadership and Israeli ambassador Ron Dermer, who is pushing lawmakers for new Iran sanctions.

According to the senior [Israeli] official, Dermer approached Boehner, McConnell and other senior Republican Party figures at Netanyahu’s behest and suggested the idea of the speech. “Dermer and Boehner cooked up this whole invitation to Congress,” the official said.

Politico says the plan was hatched on January 8, and it emphasizes the drama:

House Speaker John Boehner is setting up his most dramatic foreign policy confrontation with President Barack Obama to date.

Erin Burnett of CNN seems to agree; she was all over the story last night, calling it a “historic” rebuff to a president’s effort to establish his legacy. CNN reporter Dana Bash called it “unusual and bizarre;” and scholar Douglas Brinkley called it “unprecedented, weird and strange” and the “low-end mark in US Israeli relations.”

Chris Matthews had nothing to say about the matter. It’s too hot: just days ago, Matthews had commented that all Democrats have to be for Israel. He can’t split his own constituency by bringing up this madness, which touches so directly on the national interest and the Israel lobby. As Burnett pointed out, Democratic powerhouses like Robert Menendez and Chuck Schumer are against the president on sanctions.

J Street says the invitation was a “mistake.” Inviting a foreign leader to speak to both houses is not something that should be done “lightly.” Churchill spoke three times to such a gathering; now Netanyahu will tie that mark. The speech will arouse Israelis’ concerns about outside interference in their elections. Mostly, J Street worries that the invite will politicize support for Israel in the U.S., thereby dividing Americans, all of whom are supposed to love Israel.

we are disturbed by the way Israel is becoming a political football in the struggle between Republicans and Democrats. Traditionally, support for Israel has been bipartisan but it would appear that some in both countries want to make it a partisan issue…. Now we have Mr. Boehner risking creating the appearance of enlisting the Israeli Prime Minister for battles he may not be able to win alone on the merits of his arguments. This trend, if allowed to continue, has deeply worrying implications for Israel, which will always need support from across the American political spectrum to feel truly secure and to maintain the broad, grassroots support of the American people.

A little less diplomatic: here’s part of the reporters’ pool report from the president’s flight to Boise, Idaho, yesterday, a gaggle with Josh Earnest. Reporter is Todd Gillman of the Dallas Morning-News.

Israeli PM’s speech to Congress at the invitation of Speaker Boehner is a breach of protocol because when the leader of a country comes to visit, he’s supposed to reach out first to the president…
Earnest said the White House was notified this morning before Boehner’s announcement, and he called it “interesting.” …

Would Obama meet with Netanyahu? “We haven’t heard from the Israelis directly about the trip.”

“The typical protocol would suggest that the leader of a country would contact the leader of another country when he’s traveling there. That certainly is how President Obama’s trips are planned when he travels overseas. This particular event seems to be a departure from that protocol.”
He emphasized that Obama and the prime minister speak regularly. Asked if the White House is annoyed, Earnest said, “No.”

Of course this is about policy, not just manners. Earnest:

On Iran sanctions: the president strongly prefers to continue pursuing diplomatic options, as he said in his SOTU address. But it seems clear that Republicans want Netanyahu to add pressure for sanctions against Iran, something Obama wants to hold off on, Earnest said.

Here’s Boehner denying that he was poking the White House in the eye. But on CNN and NBC they showed the speaker sitting behind Obama as he made his remarks on Iran, knowing full well he was about to submarine the president.

But the congressional outreach is a conspiracy in plain sight to sabotage the Iran negotiations. Quoting Sec’y of State John Kerry, Matt Lee of AP has a two part tweet on the matter (1, 2):

#SecKerry: “In Israel, 1 of top intel personnel – I won’t name names _ was asked directly…what effect of (#Iran) sanctions would be.”

#SecKerry: “& this (#Israeli intel official) answered that (sanctions) would be like throwing a grenade into the process.”

Josh Rogin and Eli Lake say this remark is proof that the Israeli intelligence services have broken with Netanyahu over Iran.

The Israeli intelligence agency Mossad has broken ranks with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, telling U.S. officials and lawmakers that a new Iran sanctions bill in the U.S. Congress would tank the Iran nuclear negotiations.

Martin Indyk welcomes this report: “Mossad has broken with Netanyahu on Iran, adding fuel to the fire in Washington,” but his former boss Kerry was diplomatic about the visit:

Bibi welcome in #US “any time,” #SecKerry says, notes it’s “a little unsual” to learn of visit from office of speaker of the House.

State Department’s Jen Psaki is also careful not to openly criticize the Israeli agenda:

QUESTION: So despite the fact that it – you say it was a breach of protocol, you’re not against the idea. Is that correct?

MS. PSAKI: No, I wouldn’t – exactly.

QUESTION: Okay…. Does the Administration have any view as to whether Prime Minister Netanyahu speaking to Congress on his well-known positions about Iran and about militant or radical Islam is necessary or helpful to the discussion going on about —

MS. PSAKI: Well, I think… it’s no secret, Matt, that we have a different point of view as it relates to the benefit of ongoing negotiations with Iran and our efforts to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. And Prime Minister Netanyahu has spoken to that extensively. So that’s – but there are many leaders who have spoken to joint sessions in the past and there will be many in the future. Prime Minister Netanyahu himself has on many occasions.

Rand Paul has welcomed the visit. (“Sheldon [Adelson] still isn’t going to give you a penny Rand,” says Zaid Jilani)

Oh and here Bill Kristol wades in, saying Netanyahu can “help out” Americans by filling in the president’s blanks:

Obama left a few things out of SOTU. Bibi can help out by filling in some blanks–al Qaeda, radical Islam, Iran’s sponsorship of terror, etc

And praising Robert Menendez, Democratic NJ senator, who had slammed Obama’s negotiations with Iran:

If only most Republicans were as forthright as Menendez…
Dem Sen: Obama’s Talking Points ‘Straight Out of Tehran’

And Kristol on the battle by Obama to hold his own party. Remember that the president counselled Democratic senators about donor pressure?

Just FYI: “donors” means Jews. “The president said he understood the pressures that senators face from donors…”

Update: The speech is to happen March 3 (not February 11, as announced), as part of Netanyahu’s pilgrimage to AIPAC, the Israel lobby group.

Nancy Pelosi slams the speech. She takes the J Street line, and faults Boehner for messing in Israeli politics, not the other way round:

Netanyahu address Congress in March was “inappropriate,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi charged Thursday.

The California Democrat said that, not only did Boehner break congressional protocol by not consulting Democratic leaders about the invitation, but the timing of the speech – coming just a few weeks ahead of Israel’s contentious national elections – hints that politics are at play.

Max Fisher at Vox is outraged, and correctly identifies the issue as one of national interest being undermined by a foreign country (though not a word about the powerful Israel lobby workin overtime here to make it happen)

Netanyahu is playing a game with US domestic politics to try to undermine and pressure Obama — and thus steer US foreign policy. Boehner wants to help him out. By reaching out to Netanyahu directly and setting up a visit without the knowledge of the White House, he is undermining not just Obama’s policies but his very leadership of US foreign policy. The fact that Netanyahu is once again meddling in American politics, and that a US political party is siding with a foreign country over their own president, is extremely unusual, and a major break with the way that foreign relations usually work.

Thanks to Annie Robbins.

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  1. Kathleen
    January 22, 2015, 10:45 am

    If the U.S. is drug into another military confrontation..this time with Iran there will be no doubt just who pressured the U.S. to do so. Israel and the Israeli lobbies in this country have their fingerprints all over this one. And now Boehner’s too. There will be no doubts as to who to point at and lay bloody blame.

    Hopefully Code Pink, Jewish Voice for Peace, the NIAC and all other concerned groups and citizens will be in D.C. for protest when Netanyahu speaks. Letting the world know just who is in charge of our congress and U.S. foreign policy with Iran

    Folks should flood their Reps offices with messages of NO NEW SANCTIONS WITH IRAN. Document their contacts and what their Reps stands are on this critical issue

    • Krauss
      January 22, 2015, 12:37 pm

      Obama can veto new sanctions if he wants to. But he wants to avoid that because vetoing a piece of legislation that is supported by his own party would be incredibly undermining for the rest of his agenda.

      The Israel Lobby has basically said: Obama, remember your progressive stuff in your recent SOTU? You can stuff it. It’s all about wars now.

      And Kristol is right: donors do mean Jews in this case. Pat Hagee and the Christian Evangelicals are nowhere to be seen.

      • Kathleen
        January 22, 2015, 6:37 pm

        Obama is publicly flipping the bird at Israel and continuing to sustain that stance. Netanyahu and Israel have brought this upon themselves. Boehner is now officially part of the Iran war team, Sealed the deal by doing this

      • Kay24
        January 23, 2015, 12:27 am

        Kathleen, Bibi Netanyahu has a thick skin any crocodile would be envious of. He looked a clown showing cartoons at the UN, he elbowed his way to Paris, and now manipulated an invitation from Congress (which Congress kept Obama in the dark about), and he is considered a war monger……he still continues to bulldoze his way into places he is not welcome nor invited, and make an ass of himself.

      • CigarGod
        January 23, 2015, 8:49 am

        Kay24, as I read your post…a vision of Il Duce came to mind. That image inspired by his behavior, cannot he a positive thing…except in his delusional mind…and those of his followers.

      • Kay24
        January 23, 2015, 9:48 am

        CG the Israeli people are going to give him yet another term, which means Il Duce will become even more delusional, arrogant, and bigger pain in our collective necks.

    • ziusudra
      January 23, 2015, 5:34 am

      Greetings,
      For all of us pro & con the ME, we find ourselves parcing & hairsplitting over this issue of protocol betw. Zio Bibi & the globe’s Emp. O’Bloomer. Oh, how could Bibi use his Goebbel’s tactics against our Pres. & even be supported by this Gangster Boehner when he, the Pres. is allowing Bibi to continue much more damage to the area etc.
      For me both of these contenders are winning keeping us looking at petty problems.
      ziusudra

    • saramus
      January 23, 2015, 9:21 am

      This goes way beyond disrespect or breach of protocol. It is a blatant act of treason, a virtual coup d’état. There must be nationwide protests and a huge demo in DC. And much more concerted efforts to awaken the American public, before it’s too late. I am proud to be a member of both Code Pink and JVP, and I’m sure other groups will plan actions, but it’s going to take unprecedented mobilization.

    • JWalters
      January 23, 2015, 7:27 pm

      Kathleen, excellent points. In fairness to Boehner, he’s just following Netanyahu’s instructions.

  2. jon s
    January 22, 2015, 10:50 am

    This is really bad news and I’m furious. So is everyone else who is hoping and working for a change, for bringing Netanyahu down.
    During the US elections Netanyahu was accused, justifiably so, of intervening on behalf of Gov. Romney and the Republicans. Now it looks like the Republican Congress is intervening in our elections, in Netanyahu’s favor.
    If Netanyahu is given this platform , at a critical point shortly before the elections, it will be an overt, unprecedented, intervention, and may even decide the outcome.

    • amigo
      January 22, 2015, 4:05 pm

      “This is really bad news and I’m furious. So is everyone else who is hoping and working for a change, for bringing Netanyahu down.”

      Now , now jon s, you are talking treason.Seeking the overthrow of King Bibi who is in a long line of Jewish kings who have ruled the Jewish Nation since time immemorial .Beware , lest you lose your head or worse , be cast out of the tribe and sent amongst the infidels in far off Europe never to make aliyah again.

      • Mooser
        January 22, 2015, 9:27 pm

        “Amigo”, when “Jon s” talks like that, I feel like a dog who has been thrown a bone.

      • Kay24
        January 22, 2015, 10:40 pm

        Lol Mooser, isn’t it like a breath of fresh air?

      • Mooser
        January 23, 2015, 11:35 am

        “Lol Mooser, isn’t it like a breath of fresh air?”

        Ah yes, when the comforting smell of good old home-made intransigence replaces the sharp scent of atrocity, for a while, anyway.

    • Mooser
      January 22, 2015, 5:46 pm

      “This is really bad news and I’m furious. So is everyone else who is hoping and working for a change, for bringing Netanyahu down.”

      “Jon s”, brother, get hold of yourself! Don’t let that old self-hatred get the better of you! Don’t become defeatist, and moreover, “Jon s” (although I hate to remind you of this in public,) what about G-d’s promises to us?? To give up on those promises, to think the G-d cannot deliver us the Promised Land, the Biblical Kingdoms of Judea and Samamish ? Is that how you feel about H-m, G-d is guy who welches on a deal?
      “Jon s” I beg you, take heart in G-d’s promise to Israel, and rejecteth not the one man in Israel who gives you the Protective Edge! The Jewish People are owed their full inheritance!

      But go ahead, switch your loyalty to the Palestinians, that’s all right.

  3. jon s
    January 22, 2015, 11:04 am

    As for anti-Netanyahu protests: believe me, he’ll be delighted.

    • Walid
      January 22, 2015, 1:35 pm

      Nothing to delighted about, jon, the White House announced that Obama will not meet with Netanyahu during his visit. That to me looks like Obama is giving him the finger.

      • just
        January 22, 2015, 2:10 pm
      • CloakAndDagger
        January 22, 2015, 7:47 pm

        About time Obama showed a little gumption! I think he is emboldened by the fact that Mossad doesn’t think sanctions are the way to go with Iran.

        I do hope Bibi gets re-elected. Nothing exposes the dark underbelly of Israel and its influence on congress more than Bibi and his mouth.

    • bilal a
      January 23, 2015, 1:44 am

      I wonder if Epstein and Dershowitz have anything set up for Netanyahu , relaxation, liberal zionist type:

      content warning: Alan Dershowitz’s Accuser Swears By Her Story Of Sexual Misconduct, gives details, claims corroborating witnesses
      http://abovethelaw.com/2015/01/alan-dershowitzs-accuser-swears-by-her-story-of-sexual-misconduct/

      • JWalters
        January 23, 2015, 7:30 pm

        And maybe a meeting with the Wall Street mafia regarding war contracts, etc.

      • MRW
        January 23, 2015, 8:12 pm

        And Gawker found the flight plans. Turns out the Dersh has been flying on Epstein’s plane since 1997, and he was not accompanied by this wife and daughter as he opined. It was a bevy of girls with no last names.

  4. MRW
    January 22, 2015, 11:13 am

    If Netanyahu torpedoes the negotiations, American Jews and Israel will be blamed. Period. No contest. The spectacle of appearing before Congress will stand as evidence. And judging from the reaction last night at the bar, even the wonkiest pro-Repub/Israel supporters don’t like the disrespectful slap at the Office of the President.

    Read Colonel Pat Lang’s take: Boehner should read the constitution and the law.

    I think Boehner is a traitor.

    • Annie Robbins
      January 22, 2015, 11:48 am

      MRW, notice at Politico :

      Many Republicans and Democrats wary of the U.S.-Iran talks have suggested Congress pass a new round of sanctions. Additional sanctions have bipartisan support, but Obama said in his State of the Union speech Tuesday night that he would veto such measures at this time.

      Many Republicans and Democrats wary of the new U.S. sanctions against Iran and do not want Congress to pass a new round of sanctions. Additional sanctions have bipartisan support in congress, but many americans support what Obama said in his State of the Union speech Tuesday night, that he would veto such measures at this time.

      • DaBakr
        January 22, 2015, 8:02 pm

        Well, Obama did ask pretty nicely for the republicans to give his way a little more time while acknowledging he is well aware of the bipartisan concern with his iran approach. I’m not one for grand conspiracy and without too much difficulty can see how this typical American two party animosity could be, ironically, the most moderate way to proceed.
        Yes, boehner comes off in the media as nasty and a crank while Obama,imo, comes off as jocular and effete. And adding in Netanyahu in this mix is definitely a way for republicans to stir the pot. But considering Netanyahu has rescheduled back his visit to coincide with his aipac speech it won’t come off as anything but the typical ‘lobby’ visit the last time(except now with bookies taking bets on ovations).

        I don’t see how Obama won’t get the”time” he wants while the republicans can still use Netanyahu as a club to beat the administration with(a that’s their mo. They beat whatever democratic president with any club, any issue they can and Israel is just one of many red/blue divides I the US.)

        Netanyahu s days as leader are numbered however much he is hated or loved simply because he has outlasted his own clock. He’s a caretaker of the status quo and can’t keep no change up forever.

        In other words…I would say this issue is more of a tempest in a teapot in terms of actual policy and is more political theater then action. I can’t see where anybody from the republicans, democrats, hawks and doves benfit from ACTUALLY throwing a grenade into sanctions. But keeping up the impression of pressure? Maybe that’s the point. As MW comments always point out..iran is a rational presence regardless of their theocratic dictatorship. And neither dems or reps want a repeat of the north Korea fiaso where the hermit king just lied his teeth out while testing, selling and threatening nuke bombs.
        And to the funny guy who commented about a Zionist who is against the bibi visit as being a “traitor” to Israel and switching sides to Palestinian…I was never aware of Palestinians being beat allies with Persians. It’s an opportunistic relationship and has very little to do with the aspirations of Palestinian people. (In fact I would make a slight analogy to the angry folks who keep bringing up the tacit non aggression idf has with alNusra. )

        Anyway, PW should be stoked as a Netanyahu aipac/congress speech will keep his mind and fingers busy for a while.

      • Blownaway
        January 22, 2015, 9:07 pm

        I just hope this gets enough play to show the sheeple what Israel is doing to the U.S. with the willing tools/fools in congress. Some have clearly chosen Israel over America. It’s unprecedented and its Obamas fault for letting Netanyahu walk all over him with no penalty. There is no reason to believe anything is going to change now. Obama will take more beatings like an abused wife waiting for the death blow

      • Kay24
        January 22, 2015, 10:47 pm

        Blownaway, do you think we will soon see the headlines:

        US Congress shows they are tools of Israel, once again

        US Congress supports Bibi’s push for war OVER Obama’s negotiations

        US Congress finally agrees on one thing – and it is for an alien nation

        US Congress shows it yearns for Bibi leadership, not American President

        US Congress prefers to follow Bibi policies of war and revenge

        US Congress ready to start another war, Bibi’s war, are you ready to pay for it, America?

        It will be a cold day in hell, when our media write headlines like that, so let’s not hold our breaths.

      • Mooser
        January 23, 2015, 11:45 am

        “And to the funny guy who commented about a Zionist who is against the bibi visit as being a “traitor” to Israel and switching sides to Palestinian…”

        Hey, I got a little histrionic, can you blame me? The essential thing is, as I am sure you, “Dabakr” would agree, is that giving up on Netanyahoo shouldn’t make “Jon s” give up on G-d’s promises to the Jewish people! And of course, our demands for fullness of inheritance! I am totally down with “fullness”.

      • DaBakr
        January 23, 2015, 5:05 pm

        @tx

        well that was a tirade full of bravado. photos of crying soldiers could only be used as propaganda by those who have never been in battle. i am certain there are many photos of Arab soldiers in distress that would have you upset. Battle is generally upsetting and really young soldiers often get overwhelmed. If your point is these photos prove IDF is something-i think its very foolish.

      • Taxi
        January 24, 2015, 9:04 am

        “Battle is generally upsetting and really young soldiers often get overwhelmed.” -Dabkar

        No kidding Groucho!

        So why does your israel keep creating oppression and wars that would require the killing of its youth? …Just so it could carry on with more oppressions and more wars? That’s a sick beast of a country by any standard!

        And since when did the truth equal bravado? “It ain’t bragging if it’s true”, as the great Muhammad Ali once said.

        The truth of the battles in 2006 is that the idf got its ass kicked badly by hizbollah – many idf soldiers died and the rest ran away from the battles weeping. In response, the israeli military practically withdrew from directly confronting hizb fighters and went on a killing rampage blitzing civilian habitation and structures and mascaraing over a thousand innocent Lebanese civilians, most of them nowhere near the battlefields. And pray tell: what did israel do merely hours AFTER the ceasefire was eventually agreed upon? It dropped over one million landmines on Lebanese territory, then refused to give maps of the drop-offs to international, humnitarian landmine clearing organizations. This is ALL well documented by independent observers and analysts. Or did you think no one is watching and recording israel’s henious war crimes against its neighbors?!

        But of course you will remain brainwashed and deluded by macho-macho zio-man.

        It’s especially crazy that you would be saying all that bs about the idf considering how much pitch-fever fear of the hizb is unsettling ALL israelis right now – since their terrorist attack on Quneitra several days ago. Everyone in israel is terrorized – so the israeli news and media themselves are telling us. I mean do you live under a small freaking rock or what?!

        You and the idf are not the untouchables and you are most certainly not the heroes.

      • just
        January 24, 2015, 9:29 am

        +1! Well said. DaBakr~ were you there?

      • Walid
        January 24, 2015, 9:56 am

        “Battle is generally upsetting and really young soldiers often get overwhelmed.” -Dabkar

        Not necessarily, DaBakre. Between yesterday afternoon and this morning, 8 Lebanese soldiers (average age 22) died repelling a massive ISIS attack on Ras Baalbek in Lebanon’s badlands. It was the 4th attempt by ISIS in the last year and the 4th time it ended in ISIS’ failure but at a cost of 8 Lebanese lives and over 40 terrorists killed. Ras Baalbek is a town of 5000 mostly Christians that ISIS wishes to massacre. Last summer, the UK spent $250,000 building an observation tower on the town’s outskirts as an early warning measure against ISIS. During yesterday’s onslaught, Hizbullah sent in reinforcements to help the army repel the terrorists and drive them back across the Syrian border. During the funeral of the soldiers today, there was no crying and wailing as in funerals for Israeli soldiers. The 8 soldiers, all Moslem, along with Hizbullah fighters fought and died bravely defending the Christian town. Nobody was overwhelmed.

        http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.638709

      • just
        January 24, 2015, 10:07 am

        Wow.

        Just goes to show that defending one’s home and resisting invasion/occupation is right while the invaders/pillagers/Occupiers are wrong.

        Simplistic, I know, but this I believe. When a fierce love and pride is concerned, people will not be defeated.

        (btw, isn’t it time to take Hizbullah off that list since they are helping in the fight against ISIS???)

    • Taxi
      January 22, 2015, 12:17 pm

      Even yahoonews readers on numerous articles about this are up in arms about Boehner’s invite to Netanyahu.

      Which is why I support it. Yes I do. I welcome bibi to my congress cuz it’s about the worst PR move the zionist monstrosity can make right now.

      What the msm has been cleverly hiding from Joe and Jane regarding isreal will be in full glorious display in congress when he ‘visits’.

      Netanyahu, the only Apartheid prime minister on the planet, fresh from massacring over 2000 Palestinian civilians including 500+ children, has been invited by sock puppet Boehner to stand at the lofty podium in congress and urge both sides of the isle to go kill more innocent civilians in their hundreds of thousands in Iran – on behalf of israel.

      Roll out the red carpets indeed. But just be sure to hide the silverware if wifey Sarah is coming to dinner after the show.

      • Jenin Younes
        January 22, 2015, 1:07 pm

        I agree with you. These sorts of things expose to the American public the ridiculousness of our (the US’s) blind support of Israel. I felt similarly about the Jonathan Pollard thing. A lot of people who couldn’t care less about Palestinians were outraged that our politicians would consider putting Israeli interests ahead of American ones…and realized some things along the way that they wouldn’t have otherwise.

      • Shingo
        January 22, 2015, 3:38 pm

        Yes I agree Taxi,

        This could well turn out t be an even bigger PR disaster for BIbbi than Paris and not just for Bibbi, but the Israeli lobby too.

      • Daniel Rich
        January 22, 2015, 8:15 pm

        @ Shingo,

        Q: This could well turn out t be an even bigger PR disaster for BIbbi than Paris and not just for Bibbi, but the Israeli lobby too.

        R: How about for Jewish men and women in general [the ones who don’t support any of this]?

      • DaBakr
        January 22, 2015, 8:20 pm

        He is pushing the Feb 11 to his mid march aipac speech. So it won’t be so “bizarre” as all that. I don’t think Bibi was nearly as keen to pay his republican masters/buddies back in quite so theatrical a venue as people here think. Coinciding with the ‘evil’ lobby will cut back on the ‘proticals of zion’ busting feb 11 invite and the more typical lobby= Israeli PM relationship can be parsed by those who hate it and supported by others.

        It won’t change much. I don’t think that nearly as many Americans are thrilled with Iran as a ”new’ ally a people on the far and fringe left are.

        In the end..It doesn’t matter how the sausage is made…

        But the real question is this…
        Two Arab nations are currently without leadership and Iran is poised to influence the outcome. This will have far greater beating on this nuclear issue then a Netanyahu visit. And again, it has so little bearing I the immediate aspirations of Palestinians …unless of course
        The introduction of a Shi’a hegemonic power into the levant is what one supports.
        (And think carefully about all the unintended consequences having nothing to do with I/P that will most likely occur as a result. I suppose in some theoretical mindset, it’s possible there might be a calming effect but it’s difficult to imagine)

      • Walid
        January 22, 2015, 9:49 pm

        “Two Arab nations are currently without leadership and Iran is poised to influence the outcome.” (DaBakre)

        If you’re thinking of Lebanon and Yemen, Iran may have an influence on the outcome, but it will not be alone to determine it. Determination is by the US, Iran, Syria ,and Saudia, collectively.

      • Taxi
        January 22, 2015, 11:04 pm

        I’d rather see an organic Shia hegemony in the Levant than a creepy alien zionist one.

        The Levant needs Iran to help fight the isis effers. The Levant does not need israel who is supporting the isis effers.

      • RoHa
        January 22, 2015, 11:39 pm

        Taxi, it looks to me as though the Zionists are going to have another go at extending their hegemony into South Lebanon. They are wagging the Holocaust, squawking about Iran, attacking Hezbollah in Syria, and moving heavy weapons up to their northern border.

      • Walid
        January 23, 2015, 1:33 am

        “I’d rather see an organic Shia hegemony in the Levant than a creepy alien zionist one. ”

        Exactly my feeling, Taxi. Now if the US would actually start fighting ISIS instead of “accidently” air-dropping arms to it or knocking out an ISIS Toyota pickup or 2 every 3 days, ISIS would be history in no time. For now, ISIS is actually helping the US by creating havoc all over Iraq and Syria. Iraq has to make up its mind on the lesser of 2 evils, ISIS or American bases forever all over Iraq. As to Syria, Assad has to decide if he wants war for another 10 years or to let Israel’s and the Gulfies’ fundy pals run the country.

      • DaBakr
        January 23, 2015, 2:09 am

        @wd
        Yemen and Saudi A (which is being pushed as a peaceful transfer to Zalman but is generally agreed to be fraught with a lot of infighting.

      • Taxi
        January 23, 2015, 2:14 am

        Walid,

        Absolutely nobody wants isis around except for isreal and the saudis – aided by their helpers in USA.

        Iraq has already chosen to liquidate isis and has had a great week of successful battles, all thanks to Iran’s help. This means Iraq accepts American bases – for the time being.

        And Syria: it’s a matter of mere months now before the Arab Syrian Army will be controlling all Syria’s strategic towns and cities – all that would remain is the final ‘sweep’ of disconnected terrorist enclaves. After which, the Arab Syrian army can start concentrating its efforts on cleaning up Quneitra of alquaida and its new bff, israel. I don’t see “ten years” in the equation whatsoever.

        BTW, I am against hizb retaliating for last week’s terrorist attack by israel in Quneitra. I think the hizb should hold fast and focus only of the eventual big clash with israel. No point in risking strategic gains for tactical ones; or exposing valuable secret weapons and battle plans for the sake of small military engagements (unless it furthers more strategic gains) – and I think hizb leaders know all this. After all, these terrorist attacks by israel are mere pin-pricks to the Lebanese resistance group. Let the criminal israeli settlers on the border worry themselves to death over whether the hizb is tunneling under their homes or not in the meantime.

      • Pixel
        January 23, 2015, 2:55 am

        @Taxi + everyone else on that’s on the same wavelength
        .

        HELL, yes!

        Bring on the crazy!!

      • Walid
        January 23, 2015, 3:43 am

        Israel has been itching for almost a decade to find out what Hizbullah has in store for it, but Hizbullah is not budging, preferring to hold on to their secret till the last crucial moment. Maybe Hizbullah is bluffing and maybe it’s not.

      • RoHa
        January 23, 2015, 3:47 am

        The latest dodgy story is the two Japanese hostages facing execution by ISIS. The video looks very fake, with mismatched shadows and a desert on green-screen. According to SWMBO, who keeps a close eye on Japanese news, the mother of one of the hostages went on TV to make an appeal, but then went rambling on about nuclear power in Japan (against it) and various other subjects, finishing up with something about her husband being held in North Korea. The various TV stations cut her off at different times during this, depending on how long it took the producer to think “She’s a loony.”

        I don’t know what’s going on over there, but I’m damn sure it isn’t what we’re being told.

      • Taxi
        January 23, 2015, 4:08 am

        Well the illegal isreali settlers all over occupied Palestine, especially the ones living on the northern boarder with Lebanon, categorically do not think the hizb are bluffing. And that’s what matters at the end of the day heh heh heh.

        FYI, I don’t for a sec believe the hizb are bluffers either.

      • DaBakr
        January 23, 2015, 4:09 am

        nothing like ignoring Turkey, Egypt, Jordan and other Arab states with the fantasy of the “ArabSyrianArmy” “cleaning up” Syria from the “US” and “saudi” mess. Then some shi’a regime will reign over all of Syria? In which world is this?And btw-. Israel can deal with an Assad regime as it has in the past. Its foolish to underestimate how the other sunni powers -who are not allied with Israel-will react. I also am left to wonder what happened to the Syrian people who rose up and started this whole thing to gain some personal freedom and happiness over their lives? Yes, 100s of 1000s have been killed but this is no ‘proxy’ war of Israels making. This is an Arab-Persian mess with Israel in the same position it has been since ’73.

        The Hezbollah/Israel conflict will remain the big fantasy of all who hate Israel like some world wide wrestling federation match. Arabs have a long track history of over-estimating how their idols will ‘surely’ decimate Israel. I would say that in Nasrallahs defense-he and his org are not nearly as foolish as so many of the dreamers who love them are. And he does represent the most serious threat to the IDF but its nothing to brag about-especially since so many here think the idf is nothing but a cowardly and ineffectual force who will collapse like a doll if met by ‘real’ warriors.

      • just
        January 23, 2015, 9:43 am

        “Defense Minister Ya’alon: Israel will not tolerate any provocation
        Amid high tensions on northern border following a strike in Syria, defense minister threatens strong response to any violation of Israel’s sovereignty.”

        http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.638653?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

        It is to laugh. Provocation, you say?

        They’ve violated Lebanese, Syrian, etc. sovereignty over and over. Methinks they doth protest too much, and are quaking in their IOF boots.

      • Taxi
        January 23, 2015, 12:24 pm

        Dabakar,

        I see it offends you for the Syrian army to be called the ‘Arab’ Syrian Army – well tough cuz that’s their full name. Turkey has already lost in Syria, their evil plan has failed, so I don’t know what the heck you’re talking about. Also Egypt is actually presently setting up political negotiations between Bashar and the Syrian moderates (who have no blood on their hands), with the goal of establishing wider democratic institutions – so again I don’t know what the heck you’re talking about – you need to catch up on developments both political and military in Syria before you go off on your usual bravado propaganda of ‘Arabs are effed and isreal is god of the region forever’. No dear, be scared, be very scared cuz what goes up, will eventually come down.

        And as to your blah blah idf soldiers are not scared of the hizb spin, let me just remind you what happened back in 2006 – thousands of such videos exist btw:

        Your shitty little army couldn’t even penetrate more than 3 kilometers into Gaza a few months ago and most certainly couldn’t get past the town squares of a couple of Lebanese villages bordering occupied Palestine back in 2006 – despite israel’s superior armory – and actually, the idf were allowed into these border villages by the hizb so they could ambush and kill them and those idf-ers that survived the ambush ran away from Lebanon weeping., which is exactly what happened. I call this failure to penetrate into enemy territory a result of cowardice and lack of intelligence on the battlefield.

        I’d love to be a fly on the wall in your windowless shelter when not just the hizb, but the regional liberation army are marching steady and deep into the holy land. Oh you didn’t know? Oh yeah you can bet your smug daily brainwash such an army exists and is currently in training. Hey don’t blame me, blame your lying israeli ministry of information for not disseminating facts to its citizens – all for fear of creating mass panic and mass immigration out of your despicable Apartheid state. Your efforts at dividing Arab countries has resulted in a united regional resistance army. Was bound to happen this way sooner or later.

        I assure you, israel has only one more war left in it, so why don’t we carry on this conversation when Palestine is liberated by the combined resistance forces of the Levant, okay dear?

      • Taxi
        January 23, 2015, 2:38 pm

        Isreal is playing ping-pong and the hizb is playing chess.

      • lysias
        January 23, 2015, 4:20 pm

        Reports about King Abdullah after his death say he hated Assad. I wonder if Saudi Arabia will now drop its efforts to overthrow the Syrian government.

      • lysias
        January 23, 2015, 4:55 pm

        Indications that Saudi policies really are going to change now? A Saudi Palace Coup:

        More significantly, Salman, himself a Sudairi, attempted to secure the second generation by giving his 35- year old son Mohammed the powerful fiefdom of the defense ministry. The second post Mohammed got was arguably more important. He is now general secretary of the Royal Court. All these changes were announced before Abdullah was even buried.

        The general secretaryship was the position held by the Cardinal Richelieu of Abdullah’s royal court, Khalid al-Tuwaijri. It was a lucrative business handed down from father to son and started by Abdul Aziz al Tuwaijri. The Tuwaijris became the king’s gatekeepers and no royal audience could be held without their permission, involvement, or knowledge. Tuwaijri was the key player in foreign intrigues — to subvert the Egyptian revolution, to send in the troops to crush the uprising in Bahrain, to finance ISIL in Syria in the early stages of the civil war along his previous ally Prince Bandar bin Sultan.

        The link between Tuwaijri and the Gulf region’s fellow neo-con Mohammed bin Zayed, the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, was close. Tuwaijri is now out, and his long list of foreign clients, starting with the Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi may well feel a cooler wind blowing from Riyadh. Sisi failed to attend the funeral on Friday. Just a question of bad weather?

      • Taxi
        January 23, 2015, 11:55 pm

        Lysias.

        First I gotta say that monarchies absolutely disgust me. The new king, king Salman is the 25th son of the original self-appointed founder of the dynastic Al Saud. Self-appointed after the father slaughtered his way to consolidation of other desert tribes that Al Saud still ruthlessly rule over – disgusting!

        As Saudi kings go, the last king was actually a more reasonable fellow. The problem with individuals like the last king is that the system of governance does not allow for any ‘reasonable’ thinking whatsoever, rendering thus the late king’s reasonableness as utterly ineffectual to creating modernization changes – and rendering any attempt at change through the cult of personality utterly impossible. Only a violent invasion or a violent coup or civil war would modernize Saudi society.

        The Saudi system is two-pronged: the so-called royal house of Al Saud is responsible for running state affairs: industries, trade, commerce and foreign policies – while the Wahabis run religious institutions through strict moral codes (if you can call them ‘moral’, that is) imposed on everybody treading Saudi soil, including foreigners.

        The Saudi monarchy thus is pitted against the Wahabis – both entities checking each others power, keeping the scales balanced. Even if the last king had put his foot down and demanded softer laws, on women’s rights for instance, or demanded changes in foreign policy, members of his family who have converted to Wahabism would easily arrange for his assassination as they did with the king before him. The al-Tuwaijriis you mentioned thus are insider Wahabi gatekeepers and wardens over the Al Saud. So, ultimately, the Wahabis rule the dictates of governance in Saudi Arabia.

        The new king is less pleasant than the last one. Even though he verbally supports the Palestinian cause, he will continue to war with the Arab ‘resistance’ countries. A predictable contradiction that has become a Saudi foreign policy hallmark.

        The new success of the Houthie revolution in neighboring Yemen is about the biggest threat for the current Saudi status quo – which is why the Yemenis must be supported in their endeavors: dismantling Saudi and American grip on Yemeni internal politics and liberating a chunk of oil-rich Yemeni land that Saudi has been occupying for decades: equalizing Wahabi power with Shia power, energizing and mobilizing the down-trodden, poverty-struck Saudi Shia population. I predict the new king will have his hands full with the new political realities in Yemen – we may even see stirrings of war between Yemen and Saudi Arabia.

        The new king is 81 years old and suffering from ‘forgetfulness’ – not fit for ruling and high-stakes decision-making, if you ask me. The new king will not change anything: business as usual in the royal courts – till, of course, some kinda violent rebellion unseats the whole goddamn Al Saud-Wahabi structure.

        Here’s what wiki has to say about the new king, Salman:
        https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/07RIYADH651_a.html#efmBVaBrr

      • Taxi
        January 24, 2015, 10:26 am

        Roha,

        What you list are the actions of a desperate lot.

        Israelis can pretend all they want that everything is hunky dory with their hi-tec Apartheid state, but in actual fact, they have never been so insanely desperate and so desperately insane.

    • fpm
      January 23, 2015, 10:27 am

      Boehner and his cronies are traitors. What he did is Treason.

      • American
        January 24, 2015, 11:07 am

        An expansion and update to US treason and subversion definitions is badly needed.

      • Taxi
        January 24, 2015, 1:53 pm

        Unfettered American zionism is treason.

  5. Marnie
    January 22, 2015, 11:51 am

    I’ve never seen such disrespect for a sitting US president. I know he’s disappointed many and there’s a lot of people that post here that think he’s a terrible president, etc., but he is president for God’s sake and Netanyahu is nothing but sewage, who waltzes in and out of congress as if he was president of the US. I’m positive that this would never happen to a white president. Obama is being treated by Netanyahu like all “blacks” are treated by Israelis – like he is a servant, he’s inferior, a gentile, a goy, and their lackey. He is called “cushim”, the Israeli word for N*gger. Of course in America, he’s actually called N*gger and I’m betting after Boehner and Graham and the other flotsam and jetsum of Washington get a few shots in them, that’s all that comes out of their mouths. This makes me sick.

    • Mooser
      January 22, 2015, 5:50 pm

      Oh, there’s one thing you can call President Obama: a man who does not have to run for President again. That may make a difference. I sure hope so.

      • Kay24
        January 23, 2015, 6:14 am

        Well, it seems there is a warning of sorts, but we better not expect it to be seen through. Perhaps the result of ‘Netanyahu spat in our face. There will be a price,’ U.S. official says.
        If only!

        “Netanyahu’s Congress stunt could cost Israel American support, U.S. officials warn
        ‘Playing politics’ with Israel-U.S. ties could discourage Kerry from defending Israel in the international arena, U.S. officials tell the Washington Post.

        The way Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel’s ambassador to the United States Ron Dermer have conducted themselves in relations to Netanyahu’s invitation to address Congress could discourage U.S. Secretary John Kerry from defending Israel in the international arena, American officials told the Washington Post on Friday.” Haaretz

    • Kay24
      January 22, 2015, 10:49 pm

      I have seen a couple of youtube videos of young people in Tel Aviv and their opinion of Obama, it was disgusting and racist. The ungrateful punks.

    • Pixel
      January 23, 2015, 3:04 am

      It’s a matter of respecting the office vs whoever may be holding that office.

      • DaBakr
        January 23, 2015, 4:28 am

        I don’t believe for a second if the same supposed ‘lack of respect’ was being shown to a very conservative republican administration you would give a hoot about the supposed ‘breach of protocol’.

        Obama is a big boy. He seems to be taking it pretty well and has said he will not meet with him. He can even direct his cabinet to call Netanyahu something worse then a chickensht next time.

      • Mooser
        January 23, 2015, 11:50 am

        “I don’t believe for a second if the same supposed ‘lack of respect’ was being shown to a very conservative republican administration you would give a hoot about the supposed ‘breach of protocol’.”

        Yup all those You-Tubes of Israeli youth making racist and disrespectful remarks about Pres. George Bush are all over the Internet. I remember that, they used to call him “The Head Honky” or something like that.

      • DaBakr
        January 23, 2015, 9:19 pm

        @mssr
        i seem to remember people on the left in the US thought it was pretty funny when that poor guy threw a shoe at George W Bushes neck and got arrested. And I have seen video of drunk Israelis saying racist things but can’t say I recall the anti-gwb-head-honky videos. i hope they were entertaining

      • Mooser
        January 24, 2015, 6:52 pm

        ” but can’t say I recall the anti-gwb-head-honky videos.”

        That’s it “Dabakr”, you just go ahead and keep pretending your credibility isn’t shot to pieces, and you are entitled to more than bored tolerance, and a sensible desire not to engage you?

    • fpm
      January 23, 2015, 10:37 am

      you’re absolutely right….this was disrespect at the highest level. Boehner should be classified a traitor. That’s exactly what he is. This was Treason. The people who can manage it, should be on the streets on March 3, demonstrating what the real feeling of the Americans are toward this Satan. I sent my congressman an email. I told him I hope I don’t see him giving this savage 29+ standing ovations. It will be my last vote for him. I’m sending the same message to our Senators. The actions of Boehner and his cronies was disgraceful. This country has gone straight to hell. It’s an embarrassment to be associated with this. Israel does not speak for the american people, he speaks only for himself.

      • MRW
        January 23, 2015, 8:32 pm

        The Supreme Court signed into law “the ‘sole organ’ doctrine” in 1937. The President (the Executive/State Dept) is the sole organ for foreign policy. You cannot have competing foreign policies coming out of the Legislative and Executive branches.

        Furthermore, the President of the US is Head of State. Canada’s Head of State is the Queen. Israel’s Head of State is Rivlin, not Netanyahu. Obama and Kerry are absolutely correct in their stance not to meet with a Prime Minister if they don’t want to.

        The dual-loyalty Emergency Committee for Israel needs to study American civics before they pontificate, and defecate all over the US Constitution.

  6. Theo
    January 22, 2015, 11:59 am

    President Obama said many things during and before his terms, however kept very few of his promises! I will be pleased if he vetos anything coming out of congress what is not beneficial for our nation, however I certainly will not hold my breath. I simply do not trust any of the politicians and he belongs to that group of humans, so do not be surprised if he backs down again!

  7. fpm
    January 22, 2015, 12:00 pm

    This is disrespect at the highest level. This is Treason, no doubt about it.

  8. amigo
    January 22, 2015, 12:44 pm

    Let nietanyahu take a bus to the congress.If he wishes to bypass the usual protocols then treat him as he deserves to be treated.He looks as if he needs some excercise.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11339483/Benjamin-Netanyahu-ridiculed-over-appearance-at-Paris-solidarity-march.html

  9. Brewer
    January 22, 2015, 1:14 pm

    Judging by the hasbara surrounding the death of Alberto Nisman, the push to demonise Iran is up to full noise again:
    https://www.google.co.nz/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Nisman&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=zjzBVJmGOaaN8QeQoIFY#q=Nisman&channel=fs&tbm=nws

    Nisman had been trying to fit Iran to the AMIA bombing for decades despite massive evidence to the contrary. His “evidence” relies on the claims of representatives of the armed Iranian opposition Mujahedin E Khalq (MEK), claims reliant on access to the highest levels of Iran’s Government which they clearly do not have.
    http://www.lobelog.com/indictment-of-iran-for-94-terror-bombing-relied-on-mek/
    He also claimed claimed that Tehran was involved in a 2007 plot to blow up fuel tanks at New York’s John F. Kennedy Airport.
    http://www.lobelog.com/no-evidence-for-charge-iran-linked-to-jfk-terror-plot/

    For a full account of the AMIA fiasco see:
    http://brewerstroupe.blogspot.co.nz/2009/08/aima-bombing.html

    Racking up these accusations against Hezbollah/Iran is significant I think. Perhaps we will see Israel provoking Iran through Lebanon again if Bibi goes back in?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      January 22, 2015, 5:21 pm

      Thanks for that, especially for the link to the article by Gareth Porter, who knows his stuff when it comes to Iran and the forces pushing for war against it.

    • Eva Smagacz
      January 23, 2015, 6:47 am

      If evidence for Iranian involvement was flimsy, Alberto Nisman was (is ) worth more dead than alive to those who are trying to stir America into military contflict with Iran.

      Unless, of course, his death will not delay significantly the presentation of his evidence to the authorities. I assume if he was killed a night before presentation, he had all his work completed and his deputies can use his prepared work.

      Having said that, his death allows for the assumption that the flimsy evidence is incomplete, and that Nisman took “reliable evidence” with him to his grave…..

      • Brewer
        January 23, 2015, 1:26 pm

        Yes Eva. That looks like the plan:
        “Nothing new: Nisman’s report fails to fan flames of conspiracy ”
        http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/180042/nothing-new-nismans-report-fails-to-fan-flames-of-conspiracy-

      • DaBakr
        January 23, 2015, 9:31 pm

        the Nisman report has already been published by the courts. the ‘strategy’ Prez. Fernandez is now using is that Nisman was an “innocent” and “naive” prosecutor who was duped and fed false information by double agents and for some unexplainable reason was killed the night before presenting the report representing ten years of his life.

        And btw-the charges are so simple and typical- in return for turning a blind eye to what Iranian spies/agents did to the B.A. Jewish center- Argen. will give Iran a sweetheart deal via oil-for-food worth billions to Argen. nation (and theoretically-the presidents cronies) . Fernandez may be relying on the financial benefit to her nation as a means to push citizens to look the other way. I don’t know the Argen electorate well enough at all to say one way or the other what majority of Argentinos think

        The court system has already squashed the so-called ‘truth’ council and the court answered Nisman death by quickly publishing his report.

        It looks to me like Fernandez has taken both the some of the truth and some of the wild conspiracies and rolled them together inside of Nisman’s death in attempt to make the issue so convoluted and so tangled that even the SouthAmericans who have been raised on magical realism will be too confused to unravel the web for at least another year or two

  10. a blah chick
    January 22, 2015, 1:56 pm

    I’m telling you people, this is direct fallout from Gaza.

    As I predicted the Likud Lobby feels emboldened. Israel killed and injured thousands and NOTHING happened to them. Congress just kept the weapons and aid flowing without a bleat of criticism. There is nothing Israel can do that will not be supported the the political elites, so they are going to keep ratcheting up the violence until someone stops them.

    I can’t help but feel, and I might be totally off base with this, that this disrespect (and others) is happening because Obama is perceived as an uppity black man. The GOP knows its base. Also something about the bad blood between the Butcher and Obama smells to me like something personal. Given how badly people of color are treated in Israel I’m pretty sure something got said that offended the president. The Butcher is not known for sensitivity.

    • Kay24
      January 22, 2015, 10:53 pm

      Never in my lifetime have I seen such sick devotion for an alien leader, being shown so brazenly, by our Congress. Never have I seen such unpatriotic behavior, by those we vote for, and the willingness to do what is commanded (no other word for it) by the leader of that nation, and his pathetic Ambassador (Dermer) here. They have not jumped high but stooped very low when asked to do so.

    • Marnie
      January 23, 2015, 6:39 am

      Hello! Exactly right. It seems since August Netanyahu and Friends have been pushing their rhetoric and violence on the ground steadily up, up and away as if to say “try and stop me!” Of course, no one does. And in another brazenly arrogant move, he sidesteps the President of the US to receive the ceremonial blow job from congress in their most sincere expression of devotion and fealty. Isn’t this enough to wake up americans to the fact that america is truly not in the hands of americans anymore? I sincerely pray that Obama, his vice-pres, John Kerry and anyone else with a spine will refuse to speak to that piece of filth for the remainder of his term. This is disgusting!

  11. Chu
    January 22, 2015, 1:57 pm

    Good news, the wheel of progress is turning, exposing the rift between the two nations. This underhanded effort by Boehner will certainly expose the soiled relationship that the US has with Israel on a larger scale – slowly but surely, the evidence is undeniable.

    And picture when Netanyahu comes to the beltway the next month, he’ll make his tired case that he wants security assurances from the US regarding Iran, but he wont offer any fig leaf in return – the settlements will continue, and he’ll tell his congressional buddies it’s about ‘security’ and we’ll be nowhere – meanwhile the strategy of occupation & oppression slowly simmers in the background.

    But, it’s clear that the special relationship is crumbling, and that could be the best result for both sides. Time for the umbilical cord to shrivel up and for Israel to realize it’s inside the Arab world, not in some imaginary bubble where the US gives it whatever it needs indefinitely to occupy and oppress people until they feel ‘secure’.

    • Taxi
      January 22, 2015, 2:22 pm

      S’up Chu! Happy New Year – belatedly.

      Yes, that ‘special relationship’ – what a tedious cliche – even the word ‘special’: they use it like prissy pubescent cliques in a playground, not in the fashion of statesmen discussing nation affairs.

      “No daylight between us” – another barfer. A phrase loaded with pathological insecurities.

      The ‘special, no daylight between us’ relationship is as real as breasts on a bull.

      • Chu
        January 22, 2015, 4:09 pm

        Happy New Year, Taxi.
        Yeah, more people are seeing what used to happen in smoke-filled backroom democratic circles. Now most of the undecided sideline-watchers can plainly see what’s so special about this relationship (one a stalker/the other the provider). Terrific it is that the president is making this thing difficult and isn’t behaving like the standard democratic party quisling; the most recent democratic embarrassment – Senator Bob Menendez.
        Israel wants ‘security’ from the US indefinitely, but six decades of oppression will make any onlooker wonder about who is the victim. So they need to clean that up – no one is fooled. Also, I can send anyone who believes the party line an article by any global news agency that refutes to bogus US media narrative. Even the US media doesn’t even carry the Israel as david[& goliath] story any longer, they get laughed at for doing so (see nytimes commenters dismantle op-ed pages).
        The problem is the money going to our elected officials. It usually involves some spouting of pro-Israel sentiment and towing the line about our ‘special ally’. But it’s collapsing every week. We all see change, albeit slight & slow at times. Once Israel makes its commitment to stand on its own ground, I’m sure we’ll be inspired by such example! And then other nations can do business with them. But bilking & mooching for untold decades, and now biting the hand that feeds it, is perceived as they aren’t ready for prime-time yet. So the challenge should be on Israel and its gov’t, and not revert to the stale equation of divide & conquer the congress. That’s outdated material.

    • just
      January 22, 2015, 2:30 pm

      It will be so nice to be free of that live albatross that’s been gnawing & clawing at everyone’s neck…

      So many songs come to mind. Is it too early to start celebrating?

    • amigo
      January 22, 2015, 2:50 pm

      Gee, I wonder if future headlines might look like this !!.

      “Dershowitz , Boehner and Prince Andrew linked in scandal.

      One can dream.

  12. amigo
    January 22, 2015, 2:01 pm

    One might be forgiven for thinking that It was Israel who had given the USA circa 149 billion dollars since 1949 and bought their unfettered loyalty to the so called light unto the nations.

    http://www.wrmea.org/congress-u.s.-aid-to-israel/u.s.-aid-to-israel.html

    • Les
      January 22, 2015, 2:47 pm

      Surely you didn’t expect Israel nnot to be paid (handsomely) for it to test US weapons against Palestinian, the only acceptable/available live targets. It looks like the Republicans are looking for the free publicity from our media for promoting the extermination of the Palestinians that has become a staple of Democrat politicians.

      • amigo
        January 22, 2015, 3:00 pm

        “Surely you didn’t expect Israel nnot to be paid (handsomely) for it to test US weapons against Palestinians “Les

        Which raises the question??.

        How much will the Israelis expect to be paid for all that political effort to talk the US into going to war to save Israel.I mean , Israel,s leaders have spent vast hours on this project which could have been spent on Israel,s home front .American intransigence is very costly to Israel.

  13. just
    January 22, 2015, 2:45 pm

    “Obama declines to meet Netanyahu during March visit, White House says

    …..The White House bristled at Boehner’s move as a breach of protocol because he did not first consult the Obama administration. Boehner has said he doesn’t think he’s “poking anyone in the eye.” Netanyahu has cool relations with the White House but broad support in the Republican-controlled Congress.

    The issue put the barely-sworn-in House and Senate at odds with Obama, who has vowed to veto any new legislation to impose sanctions on Iran. Obama argues that doing so could jeopardize ongoing negotiations and heighten the risk of a military showdown.

    But Boehner is not backing down. He told a private meeting of GOP lawmakers that Congress would pursue further penalties against Iran despite Obama’s warning.

    “He expects us to stand idly by and do nothing while he cuts a bad deal with Iran,” Boehner said. “We’re going to do no such thing.”

    Netanyahu’s office said the Israeli leader would also attend the March 1-3 annual policy conference in Washington of the prominent pro-Israel AIPAC lobby.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/22/obama-declines-meet-netanyahu-during-march-visit-white-house

    Maybe he can get some l-o-v-e from aipac. Or not. Heh.

    (anybody think that Netanyahu will create an ’emergency’ so he’ll be a no show? I only hope it won’t involve bombs)

  14. JLewisDickerson
    January 22, 2015, 2:48 pm

    RE: “The Congressional invitation to Benjamin Netanyahu to speak to both houses of Congress, purposely upstaging President Obama’s State of the Union speech on Iran and terrorism the morning after, is a shocker that the MSM can’t ignore.” ~ Weiss

    MY QUESTION: Is the U.S. Congress trying to interfere with the Swiss arbitration between Israel and Iran over the Eilat-Ashkelon Pipeline?

    SEE: “Is the Israeli-Iranian conflict also being waged over money?” | Haaretz Editorial | Dec. 17, 2014 | 6:00 AM
    Over the past 20 years, Israel’s disputed oil pipeline has been used as a unique communications channel between Israel and Iran.

    Articles by Avi Bar-Eli in this newspaper give a rare glimpse of what’s going on with the Eilat-Ashkelon Pipeline Company. The company was founded after the Six-Day War as a partnership between the governments of Israel and Iran, with the aim of transporting Iranian crude oil from Eilat to the Mediterranean coast for sale in Europe.

    After Iran’s Islamic Revolution in 1979, relations between the countries were severed, but the company continued to operate and flourish on the strength of its government franchise, as it transported crude oil through its pipeline in the Negev and was a partner in the Dorad power station in Ashkelon. Under the cover of the military censor, EAPC became an enterprise for arranging jobs for the friends of those in government and former employees of the defense establishment. Exposure of this was possible solely because of the furor surrounding the oil leak from the company’s pipeline. Over the past 20 years, EAPC has been the grounds for a unique communications channel between Israel and Iran. Iran took Israel to arbitration in an effort to get back the fruits of its investment in the joint company, estimated in the hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions. The proceedings in Europe have been moving forward slowly, but the Iranians have succeeded in forcing Israel into arbitration, and even won a preliminary award totaling tens of millions of dollars.

    On Tuesday Bar-Eli revealed that Israel had asked the Swiss arbitrators to hide the identity of the countries involved in the process when it published their decision. The arbitrators expressed surprise at the request and slapped Israel with around a million shekels in court costs. Aside from the legal and financial damage caused to Israel, the request raises serious questions about the government’s motives for maintaining a veil of secrecy over the EAPC.

    It’s hard to let go of the impression that the Netanyahu government feared the revelation of the arbitration process, which presents it as conducting business and legal proceedings with Iran. One can’t help but ask: Along with his concerns regarding the development of an Iranian nuclear bomb, is Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu worried about an arbitration ruling that would obligate Israel to pay Iran huge sums, and thus help finance its nuclear installations? Does Iran’s decision to pursue legal action against the “Little Satan” demonstrate that its leaders are capable of acting rationally? Is the Israeli-Iranian conflict, which reached the brink of war during Netanyahu’s term, being waged over money and not just over power and influence?

    Instead of secrecy, the public deserves to have the censorship removed and to get explanations from Netanyahu about Israel’s real policies on Iran.

    SOURCE – http://www.haaretz.com/misc/iphone-article/1.632264

    P.S. ALSO SEE:

    The secret hands guiding Israel’s controversial pipelinehttp://traffic.outbrain.com/network/redir?p=bWJoXKUpv0M75k4vs1UsYcyvbkCRdmV7Yh7ZYqvDp889vmNyXmhn7%2FHNRr5tbbAmXbsIOiC%2BfIDyLvoJbrEx0v6waiw1iXhlm9VoLKhmzShQTxH7RoDf7J%2FDOLOD4UVb4QRzo37Qjh5g%2B%2BkY5aOzj%2FdLAEh9P6NQ%2Fo5v%2FhFWH9dbmLMl%2Fsc0rMNLNTbXNR4Jp%2F9G5t005Jyq9T1UFtNJQlF03ujB5Dh2RdHtPj4rBp3cPAqltSkz%2B5kzsk2NAdulf%2BcmceZpr8fVeGtb%2BErQg8OoiCathV8HRKyyli3JzgVMmPpNj8pBT6EPe0FeeYBvCzhJXPvWfeINeRYmg3HhMjE6P14805ssqcY5NNgigNQ%3D&v=2

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  15. just
    January 22, 2015, 3:12 pm

    Kerry says no!

    “The White House announced on Thursday that President Barack Obama will not meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu when the latter visits the U.S. in March to speak before Congress.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry will also forgo meeting with Netanyahu, a spokeswoman for the State Department told Reuters.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.638562?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Kaput.

    • eljay
      January 22, 2015, 3:36 pm

      >> just: “The White House announced on Thursday that President Barack Obama will not meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu when the latter visits the U.S. in March to speak before Congress.”

      The President of the United States of America demonstrates disloyalty to the “Jewish State” of Israel. Wow, that’s heavy.

    • bilal a
      January 23, 2015, 8:31 am

      Its a benign form of protection for the unchosen – american dhimmitude.

  16. chet
    January 22, 2015, 3:15 pm

    Any concerns about accusations of being Israel Firsters or Fifth Columnists appear to have now disappeared — it’s all out in the open, but as usual the servile MSM will ignore this near-traitorous activity and distract us with ginned-up pap about party squabbles and other irrelevancies.

  17. Whizdom
    January 22, 2015, 3:32 pm

    More crazy,

    an unnamed senior Israeli official accuses Obama admin of lying about Mossad warnings.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4617946,00.html

  18. amigo
    January 22, 2015, 3:45 pm

    Here,s a laugh from boehner!.

    “House Speaker John Boehner today called NSA leaker Edward Snowden a “traitor” who put Americans at risk by releasing classified information to the media.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/06/house-speaker-john-boehner-nsa-leaker-a-traitor/

    By way of balance , here is boehner commending his commander in chief, (for a change.)

    “Boehner endorsed President Obama’s characterization of two programs, which allow the NSA to gather information about phone calls made in the U.S. as well as information on foreign suspects collected from major internet companies, as critical to the government’s ability to fight terrorism”.

    Same link.

  19. gracie fr
    January 22, 2015, 4:15 pm

    Anti Muslim/anti Islam rhetoric has reached a fevered pitch at a time when several geopolitical and (American) cultural factors have miraculously (???) converged, beginning with the recent Paris bombings and Netanyahu’s photo-op with some of the world’s most unsavory repressive heads of State.
    “In the past several days we have experienced the same repeated shocks as all our fellow citizens. As Jews, we were profoundly upset by the horrible attack carried out on Jews solely because they were Jews. This can only evoke memories of the worst periods of Judaism in France….Israel’s successive governments have addressed themselves over the same period of time to French Jews, urging them to leave France, with all its supposedly anti-Semitic Muslims, and make their aliyah to Israel.
    Many Jews have fallen into this trap, given their emotional and familial ties and their identification with Israel, and given Israel’s history as presented in Zionist mythology. Little by little, they have become the potential “representatives” in France of the Israeli soldier or the Israeli settler, abandoning their critical judgment in the heat of increasingly problematic confrontations. They have at the same time sacrificed their own capacity for empathy with others, including occupied peoples, people deprived of all their rights and subjected to massacres, as in Gaza last summer. Their only concern is to preserve at any cost this “small, fragile state surrounded by enemies” and alone capable, they believe, of protecting them from anti-Semitism.

    http://www.truth-out.org/speakout/item/28651-the-trap-set-for-the-jews-of-france

    The reason for bringing Netanyahu is that Boehner wants to craft a super-majority in Congress that can over-ride Obama’s veto of new sanctions on Iran. He doesn’t have enough Republican votes to do so, but if he can get Democrats beholden to the Israel lobbies of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee to join the veto over-ride effort, he might succeed……US hawks in both parties and the Israeli political right wing want to prevent Iran from having any nuclear enrichment program at all, so as to prevent Iran from having the security that comes from the deterrence Lite produced by latency.
    The US Joint Chiefs of Staff looked at this issue and have decided that only an Iraq-style invasion, occupation and regime change could hope to abolish the nuclear enrichment program.

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/israels_netanyahu_was_imported_by_gop_to_ensure_a_war_with_iran_20150122

    On to the stage walks American Sniper, with its 7 Oscar nominations.
    Chris Kyle, the Navy SEAL who the Oscar-nominated box office sensation “American Sniper” is based on, wrote a book by the same name that encapsulates his hatred, bigotry and enthusiasm for killing Iraqi “savages”. But Kyle’s unrepentant bloodlust is missing from the movie, which valorizes him as an anguished hero. Given the cultural illiteracy innate in the majority of Americans the unquenched craving for revenge which is alive and well, it’s no surprise that some moviegoers came away from “American Sniper” inspired to kill Arabs and Muslims.

    https://storify.com/RaniaKhalek/american-sniper-chris-kyle-in-his-own-words

    And last but not least, Sam Harris and his cohorts continue to appeal to the rational Cartesian minds of America’s atheist intellectual class.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/sam-harris-liberals-like-greenwald-aslan-support-thuggish-ultimatum-of-islamic-terrorists/

    The Israeli Prime Minister address to Congress will likely have a rapt audience based on recent and ongoing events both foreign and domestic. He has found the most “perfect storm”….

    • just
      January 22, 2015, 4:23 pm

      well done, gracie fr.

      I think that President Obama is up to the task of protecting the US from the “perfect storm” of Netanyahu’s & Congress’ propaganda and fear mongering.

      The majority of people in the US do not want another war. They just don’t.

      • gracie fr
        January 22, 2015, 5:20 pm

        …Merci Just… !!!
        The whole conjunction makes me nervous all the same….

      • Pixel
        January 23, 2015, 3:25 am

        Oui! Oui!

  20. ToivoS
    January 22, 2015, 5:12 pm

    For those of you who have not lost all faith in the American political process maybe this is a good time to send a message to your representatives in Congress — all three — and please ask them to not attend Bibi’s speech. For those that do attend, please ask them to not stand and applaud during the speech. Then ask them to simply keep seated and not applaud at the end.

    For those with Democratic representatives remind them that Bibi interfered in our 2012 election and he supported Romney. Let them know that Bibi is an ultra-rightwing Israeli politician in active coalition with Republicans and that he is using this visit to advance his own election prospects next month.

    Even if you dislike Obama and the Democratic Party please take this action. One of the things that makes US support for Israel so difficult to confront is that it has for the last 40 years been bipartisan. This is an opportunity to drive a wedge into that bipartisan support. Stir the pot folks, this is a rare opportunity.

    • just
      January 22, 2015, 5:41 pm

      absolutely correct, ToivoS!

      I’ve made calls today and will again tomorrow….. so far I’ve only gotten mumbling back.

  21. lysias
    January 22, 2015, 5:31 pm

    Citing Proximity Of Israeli Election, Obama Won’t Meet With Netanyahu. Israeli election is March 17. No wonder they moved Bibi’s speech to Congress to March 3. That’s a lot closer to the Israeli election.

    • Whizdom
      January 22, 2015, 6:02 pm

      yeah Lysias, a very interesting unintended consequence. With potentially huge implications.

    • a blah chick
      January 22, 2015, 6:08 pm

      From the article: ” said Khaldi Hkmat, a Bedouin and a veteran of the Israeli army. “I ran to the battlefront during the Six-Day War. Now I’m afraid to go to Tel Aviv because of racism.”

      Nothing you do as a an Arab will ever be good enough. Also the Zionist parties will never bring the Arab parties into coalition, ever. The racism is too deeply engrained.

      Israel reminds a bit of America circa 1859.

      • Eva Smagacz
        January 23, 2015, 7:09 am

        “The Zionist parties will never bring the Arab parties into coalition, ever. The racism is too deeply engrained” +1

  22. just
    January 22, 2015, 5:51 pm

    “Netanyahu snubs Obama, shocks the Jews and gambles on Iran and the elections

    ….. According to numerous reports, Obama’s aides at the White House couldn’t contain the foam on their mouths: “chickenshit”, according to one, was the mildest epithet used that day. The reaction was quickly forthcoming: President Obama won’t meet with Netanyahu when he is in Washington, and Netanyahu’s old friend John Kerry will stay away as well. It’s because of the elections, spokesperson Bernadette Meehan explained, with a wink big enough for the entire world to see.

    The astonishment didn’t stop at Pennsylvania Avenue but moved from there to Capitol Hill. Even Democratic lawmakers who intend to go against the administration and support new sanctions taken aback by the Boehner-Bibi move. “Netanyahu is shooting himself in the foot,” one of them said, “because by turning this into a partisan issue, he may be forcing some Democratic members to choose between Boehner and Obama, which, for them, is no choice at all.” Minority leader Nancy Pelosi, quickly shot down claims coming from both Boehner and Netanyahu that the invitation to address Congress was “bipartisan”. No one consulted with me, Pelosi said, and the invitation is “inappropriate.”

    Even the leaders of mainstream Jewish groups who normally and reflexively support Netanyahu were dumbfounded: no one informed them and no one had asked their opinion. “I was literally sick to my stomach when I heard about it,” one of them told me. J-Street criticized the move, of course, but even the Anti-Defamation League’s Abe Foxman called on Netanyahu and Boehner to come down from the high tree they had climbed. I support new sanctions, Foxman told Ron Kampeas at JTA, but this is “ill-advised.”
    ……

    It remains to be seen whether Netanyahu’s bold gamble of infiltrating Washington by force two weeks before Israel’s March 17 elections will pay off for him electorally or turn out to be a double edged sword. Netanyahu may not have taken into consideration that he is dealing with an emboldened and possibly far more venomous U.S. President who may suddenly turn his new found audacity to getting rid of his least favored leader, anywhere in the world. Netanyahu certainly seems to have forgotten that if he wins the elections and returns as prime minister, it is he who will then have to figure out how to survive for the next two years in the barren landscape and scorched earth that he left behind him this week.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/.premium-1.638601?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    • ToivoS
      January 22, 2015, 6:32 pm

      It is quite possible that Boner and Bibi have created a storm that they may wish to reverse. It is even more important to send those messages to Congress now and demand that our representatives do NOT endorse this insult to the President of the US. We have a rare opportunity for the public to let our government know what we think about the “special relationship”.

      • Kathleen
        January 22, 2015, 6:40 pm

        Making it so completely public just who owns our congress on this issue…Israel Israel Israel

      • Pixel
        January 23, 2015, 4:03 am

        From “The Audacity of Hope”
        to
        “The Audacity of Rope-a-dope”

    • Pixel
      January 23, 2015, 3:36 am

      From the Dersh in a$$less chaps playing Ring Around the Rosie with an underage girl, to Bibi being an a$$, to Boehner kissing his a$$, and all of Congress with their heads up their a$$…

      …there’s never a dull moment.

      Bring it on!

    • Pixel
      January 23, 2015, 3:41 am
  23. Kathleen
    January 22, 2015, 6:39 pm

    Huff Po has a piece up about Obama saying he will not meet with Netanyahu when he comes. Obama needs to hear from all of us. Let him know you support his stance. Finally staying firm on this issue

  24. italian ex-pat
    January 22, 2015, 6:58 pm

    Kathleen:

    Please let us know how to express support for Obama in this. I have often been disappointed in the man, but I now realize what he’s been up against. To see the degree that the US are being manipulated by Israel is just too much. Don’t the American people have anything to say about it? I guess their time to speak up was at election time, and they blew it. What can I do, as an individual, to make my disgust known?

    • Kathleen
      January 22, 2015, 10:11 pm

      Of course you can contact President Obama at the White House..(google). Call into Cspan’s Washington Journal during open phone segment or a segment that has to do with this issue. All numbers at their website. Call, email, facebook into the Diane Rehm show during their show tomorrow (Friday) during their international segment. Phone number 1-800-433-8850. Practice what you are going to say. Get a piece of information out to the public (say about the discussions here at Mondoweiss, or ask why so called hard ball media host like Chris Matthews play softball when it comes to this issue) Ask why the majority of our media host are such chicken shits (of course you can not say this) when it comes to the seriousness of this issue. Write to the New York Times, etc and share your opinion from abroad. Another idea is ask why Israel owns our congress, why Israel refuses to sign the IAEA non proliferation treaty and the Chemical Weapons convention treaty while Iran did long ago. How absurd it is that the very nation who refuses to play by the rules that others (Iran) are abiding by and this very nation of Israel is pushing us towards another military conflict.

      Go get them. Bet you have plenty of your own ideas for what you want to say. Be polite and clear. Go for it

      • Kathleen
        January 22, 2015, 10:29 pm

        You can also call into the Ed Schultz radio show (number at his website) this one takes awhile to get through but worth it. Also NPR’s Kogo Nnamdi (number at website). Sure there are more outlets but those are the ones I have gotten through on. Also the program ON POINT. Just got through at that show recently on the Iran issue.

      • Kathleen
        January 22, 2015, 10:47 pm

        Just looked up my last phone call about the Iran issue into national radio program ON POINT on Jan 3 2015, The show title “A year in the News: Isis, Midterm politics, and the year to come” I make my comment about what I would like to see for this upcoming year at 35:50-36:50. Kathleen Dayton Ohio. Two of the guest refer to my comment in the last 8 or so minutes of the show. Jack Beaty the news analyst for ON POINT confirms that he is with me on his wishes for the new year at the end of the show. “I’m with Kathleen” We do not need another preventive war.

        Ex Pat for it. Everyone else too. Use the media to get your views and information about this critical issue out in the public sphere. Bring folks to Mondoweiss too!

  25. just
    January 22, 2015, 7:22 pm

    Biden’s out too:

    “Obama to Netanyahu: Stop pushing Congress toward new sanctions on Iran

    Obama, Biden and Kerry would shun Israeli prime minister during his visit to Washington on March; ‘Netanyahu spat in our face. There will be a price,’ U.S. official says.

    ……….Nevertheless, hiding behind this diplomatic language was enormous anger on the part of the White House over the fact that Netanyahu has been working behind the U.S. administration’s back regarding the Congress address, which led to the decision to completely ostracize the PM during his visit.

    “We thought we’ve seen everything,” a senior American official said. “But Bibi managed to surprise even us. There are things you simply don’t do. He spat in our face publicly and that’s no way to behave. Netanyahu ought to remember that President Obama has a year and a half left to his presidency, and that there will be a price.”

    Netanyahu’s office tried to soften the severity of the clash with the White House. The PM’s office stressed that the invitation was made “in the name of the bipartisan leadership within the House of Representatives and the Senate,” and added that “speaking before both houses of Congress will allow for the prime minster to thank President Obama, Congress, and the American people for supporting Israel.”

    Netanyahu himself said that his invitation to Congress “reflects the special friendship between Israel and the U.S., as well as the strong bipartisan support for Israel throughout the U.S.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.638604?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Those phone calls will matter…

    • Kathleen
      January 22, 2015, 10:14 pm

      Call, email reps… if they have staff in your area ask for a meeting with them. Come back to Mondoweiss and let folks publicly know what your Reps are saying about their stance. Make it public.

      This issue is sure making obvious how Dems have been controlled by this arm (Israeli lobby) of our foreign policy. The dividing lines are being drawn publicly.

  26. RoHa
    January 22, 2015, 7:31 pm

    Has Obama used up his allowance of official murders? If not, I’d say it’s time for him to order a few.

  27. yonah fredman
    January 22, 2015, 7:38 pm

    I think Netanyahu’s participation in this fiasco is contemptible and stupid.

    I am not sure about Boehner and crew: If they truly sincerely believe that an agreement with Iran is not in the US interest and they feel that Netanyahu will rally their cause, then there might be some reason to their actions rather than treason. Still given protocol it is ugly on the part of Republicans. The assumption is that the Republicans really couldn’t care either way on Iran and it is merely just another way to poke Obama plus just another way of cozying up to Israel and Jewish donors. Then in fact it is not merely a matter of protocol, but one of rather gross irresponsibility.

    My bet is that there will not be new sanctions voted in by congress (as in they might pass it, but they won’t override a veto) and the negotiations with Iran will fail all on their own and this push for sanctions is really counterproductive, because when the negotiations fail it would be better to point all the blame on Iran rather than on the Israel lobby.

    • just
      January 22, 2015, 7:41 pm

      Iran ain’t the problem…and that’s been made crystal clear now.

      “I think Netanyahu’s participation in this fiasco is contemptible and stupid.”

      He didn’t just participate, he orchestrated it.

      • Kathleen
        January 22, 2015, 10:15 pm

        Indeed

      • Kay24
        January 23, 2015, 11:35 am

        Orchestrated it through Ron Dermer. I notice Israel sends slimy agents as Ambassadors.

  28. Qualtrough
    January 22, 2015, 8:37 pm

    I guess Netanyahu doesn’t really care much about getting a pardon for Pollard now.

  29. just
    January 22, 2015, 8:42 pm

    “This Israeli politician is basically a psychopath. Guess who

    Voters need to keep one eye on the news and one eye on the American Psychiatric Association’s manual of mental disorders.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.638529?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    ~and~

    “As the election approaches, Bibi is using his mouse brain

    It’s not clear whether we knew that an acclaimed Iranian general was among the target group in Syria, but we have a prime minister who isn’t exactly a leader.

    It’s not the norm in this country to write headlines based on a phrase in a foreign language, but when foolishness and irresponsibility reign, I’ll deviate from the norm.

    Cabeza de raton means “mouse brain” in Ladino. As will be made clear later, it isn’t exactly a compliment, especially when it refers to a leader who makes life-and-death decisions rashly out of personal considerations during an election campaign.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.638567?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

  30. lonely rico
    January 22, 2015, 9:06 pm

    Canada always wants to help.
    Mr. Netanyahu could skip the POTUS
    non-invitation,

    and could come and visit with his good Canadian friend Mr. S. Harper.

    I include a photo of the two, doing lip-pursing exercises.

    http://mwcnews.net/images/stories/middle-east/israel/3/harper-netanyahu.jpg

    They’re close friends !

    • Walid
      January 22, 2015, 10:13 pm

      “They’re close friends !” (lonely rico)

      Harper, contrary to other Western leaders, began his relationship with Israel by admitting and apologizing for Canada having turned away Jews from Germany in their hour of need in the 1930s. I don’t recall the US has made such an apology eventhough it continues paying for it year after year.

      • Eva Smagacz
        January 28, 2015, 5:14 am

        Funny, when will Israel apologise about turning African refugees away in their hour of need?

    • Pixel
      January 23, 2015, 4:09 am

      If that’s not photoshopped it’s really funny!

  31. Kay24
    January 22, 2015, 9:20 pm

    Netanyahu’s constant spitting at the White House has finally been noticed and mentioned.

    This man is the lowest of the low, who uses spineless Americans in Congress to disrespect the President, and push for his own devious agendas. This is deplorable to say the least. What kind of a cheap ploy is this, that he agrees to personally benefit from his slaves in Congress, by accepting to speak in Congress, get those adoring looks, endless standing ovations, and make his people think he is the person to lead their nation? Obama has two years more, and it is time he stood up to this Israeli snake. Bibi interfered in US President elections, time to return the favor. We are voting for spineless puppets of Israel, who have shown loyalty for one of the most disliked nations in the world, and support it’s policies of WAR, over their own President’s policies of negotiations.

  32. Kathleen
    January 22, 2015, 10:21 pm

    Once again Chris Matthews demonstrates what a yellow bellied suck up coward he is on this issue. Hardball….wrong. A limp response…no response. Tells you exactly what Chris is ultimately about his job$$$$$$. What a chicken shit

    The only MSNBC host who have and I am sure will continue to go out on a limb on this issue are Melissa Harris Perry, Chris Hayes, Joy Reid, Farrow a bit…and that is it. Al Sharpton, Ed, Chris, Cycle folks, Chris, Lawrence O’Donnell all conform.

    • Kay24
      January 22, 2015, 10:33 pm

      Mattthews has apparently made a few obedient and maybe freebie trips to the master ship, and MSNBC did not comment on that. I guess after a few brainwashing sessions, he is now one of the loyal. They all value their lucrative jobs, and perhaps want to make sure their kids are given good appointments too, so they toe the line.

      We do not have a single member of media, who can be called unafraid, and speaking the truth. Jim Clancy is the perfect example of one that tried.

      • Pixel
        January 23, 2015, 3:13 am

        @chu

        haven’t seen you around in awhile.
        don’t be a stranger.

        “Even the US media doesn’t even carry the Israel as david[& goliath] story any longer, they get laughed at for doing so (see nytimes commenters dismantle op-ed pages).”

        it’s amazing to witness the turning of the tide worm.

    • Kathleen
      January 22, 2015, 11:41 pm

      Ok tonight (Thursday) Chris Matthews went out of his comfort$$ zone a bit more about this issue. Brought up how Israel kicked Biden (a staunch supporter of Israel for decades) in the cajones when he was over there for a visit and they announced new expansion of illegal settlements. Matthews mentions how underhanded this move of Boehner’s is. However he has Richard Haas (safe supporter of Israel no matter what they do) on as a guest to talk about the issue. Haas has nothing to say about Matthews points…just goes onto beat the unsubstantiated claims about Iran…Haas needs to register as a foreign agent for Israel.

      Chris Matthews refuses to have the Leveretts on to talk about this critical issue. Chicken shit to really go out on the limb and have far more educated people on about this issue instead of the agents MSNBC have approved.

      • Kay24
        January 23, 2015, 12:04 am

        Well that is a surprise. I think considering how bashful they are to say one negative word about Israel, that is indeed a HUGE effort. I agree time they balanced the debate with an expert from the other side. How about Maddow? She speaks up for Obama, but was oddly mute about the massacre in Gaza.

  33. CloakAndDagger
    January 22, 2015, 11:15 pm

    Folks, I am convinced that there is measurable change in awareness, at least among those who frequent the interweb. I just wandered over to Huffpo:

    Obama Snubs Netanyahu

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/22/obama-netanyahu_n_6524824.html

    The number of comments on that article are huge, and they are predominantly anti-Israel/anti-Boehner. That will probably change as the hasbarists wake up in Israel and go online, but for now, it is quite a pleasantly surprising demonstration of outrage at Boehner/Netanyahu, and solid support for Obama.

    Interesting times! ◕‿◕

    • Kay24
      January 23, 2015, 12:11 am

      I notice the hasbrutes are out already. A couple of them I noticed seems to have fished out an old accusation, about being on the side that cheered when 9/11 happened. Must be the buzz word in hasbaraland. They must be re-cycling old propaganda because they are running short of excuses and lies.

      • CloakAndDagger
        January 23, 2015, 12:56 am

        Yep, the counter-comments are pretty pathetic. More muslim-bashing and palestine-bashing, unrelated to the topic being discussed.

        The following comment got over 940+ thumbs up with 167+ comments mostly approving:

        Nancy K Edwards · Top Commenter · Clinical Psychotherapist at Self
        This is nothing short of outrageous and unprecedented for a third tier politician to undermine and go behind a president’s back. lt’s classless and disrespectful toward the office of president as well. Netanyahu, by accepting the invitation, is also thumbing his nose at the president as retaliating for Obama having voiced concerns about the Palestinian slaughter a few months back. Boehner’s breaking all the rules of protocol and it infuriates me.

        The hasbara responses are all very lame and being quashed. Here is an example (student or teacher?):

        Michael Steaphens · Montevallo High School
        Chris Tompkins ,yes but Obama gave millions in aid and military equipment to our enemy,the Muslim Brotherhood.Now,the 64 million dollar question is…which one will behead you and rape your wife and daughter for not converting to their religion?

        Pretty hilarious!

      • Kay24
        January 23, 2015, 1:26 am

        That aid to Muslim part comes straight from Geller the Hate yeller’s posters. They must work for the same side. They do not have the ability to come up with an origin thought, it is all regurgitating hasbara garbage.

      • a blah chick
        January 23, 2015, 10:21 am

        The whole “they” cheered when such and such happened is so worn out. Within days of the Hitchhikers being found dead in the West Bank we got stories that the Palestinians were “cheering” and dancing in the streets. Never mind that everyone there was on lock down so the IDF could rampage their way into homes, schools and businesses.

        But why remember truth when you can re-write history?

    • Kathleen
      January 23, 2015, 3:26 pm

      Huff Po has gone back and forth with what they will and will not allow through over there. They are on the up and up the last few years. For a long time they would not allow links to even UN reports about Israel’s crimes etc. Depended I believe on moderators those in control. A real shift has taken place and yes far more awareness of the facts on the ground.

  34. Kay24
    January 23, 2015, 5:22 am

    Okay here are some reasons why some think Boehner is a traitor:

    http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/28690-is-john-boehner-a-traitor

  35. Eva Smagacz
    January 23, 2015, 7:27 am

    Swedish Foreign Minister Margot Wallström has postponed a planned trip to Israel, after Liberman made it clear that Israel will not provide security for her visit. The papers then called her up on “snubbing” the Israelis, and postponing the visit.

    (background of cooling of relations between the two countries was that Sweden recognised Palestine)

    I would love if Obama could make a similar offer that Netanyahu could not refuse: Like calling out the loyalty of Congress to a foreign leader and foreign interests in a major televised speech or abstaining from the next round of voting for Palestine in the Security Council ( although I assume that he would have to attend the session personally for that)

    • just
      January 23, 2015, 9:26 am

      A vengeful little state is Israel~ arrogant, without any class or diplomatic skills or savoir- faire.

      Swedish Foreign Minister Margot Wallström, needless to say, has class.

  36. Doom Pony
    January 23, 2015, 11:45 am

    We should realize now Obama has a choice … War or Peace… There is no longer any reason to believe that Iran will develop nukes. If they had been making nukes there would be one right now…

  37. dajson
    January 23, 2015, 2:01 pm

    Everyone seems to love to accuse the Obama administration of being just another butt-kissing lap dog for Israel like every other politician that has ever worked in Washington DC. To tell the truth however, I really do not see that.

  38. Kathleen
    January 23, 2015, 3:28 pm

    Bet MSNBC has it stacked up for either Saturday or Sunday on this issue. Betting that she will have Hillary mann Leverett back on once again to tell us like it is about Israel trying to push for more sanctions and ultimately the US getting into a military confrontation with Iran. I await with baited breath for Melissa to dig into this latest by Boner and Bibi.

    • Brewer
      January 23, 2015, 9:57 pm

      I wrote about this affair back in 2009 after coming across Gareth Porter’s investigation. I’ve been back to my blog and updated the links. Here’s the main one from Porter:

      http://www.thenation.com/article/bushs-iranargentina-terror-frame

      After spending several months interviewing officials at the US Embassy in Buenos Aires familiar with the Argentine investigation, the head of the FBI team that assisted it and the most knowledgeable independent Argentine investigator of the case, I found that no real evidence has ever been found to implicate Iran in the bombing. Based on these interviews and the documentary record of the investigation, it is impossible to avoid the conclusion that the case against Iran over the AMIA bombing has been driven from the beginning by US enmity toward Iran, not by a desire to find the real perpetrators.

  39. Thomas Comeau
    January 23, 2015, 9:05 pm

    What the dickens is wrong with bonehead Bohner’s thinking anyway? not satisfied with just obstructing our own government he now wants to screw up a foreign nation? He was sent to Washington to represent Ohio not Israel!

    • Whizdom
      January 24, 2015, 10:38 am

      Donor pressure, I imagine. Republican strategists and pollsters, Ron Dermer, Arthur Finkelstein, Frank Luntz, John Mclaughlin , are tightly integrated in Israel’s electioneering for Likud and further right parties. Unsavory lot. Tough group, although I am surprised Finklestein still has a job, after his polling utterly failed in the last Israeli election, and in Obama’s victory of Romney. He predicted Romney +4, and Likud/YB with 45 seats.

      Dermer was behind this latest genius move.

  40. German Lefty
    January 24, 2015, 3:54 pm

    Rob Lowe mocks Obama for meeting cereal-eating YouTube star and not Netanyahu
    Actor takes to Twitter to take sides in diplomatic snafu raging between White House and Republican-controlled Congress, Israeli prime minister.
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.638745

    Controversial JPost columnist Caroline Glick considered for spot on Likud slate
    Glick has called for Israel’s annexation of the West Bank, called Netanyahu ‘immoral, irresponsible and stupid’ in response to Gilad Shalit deal.
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-election-2015/1.638787

    Swedish reporter assaulted after wearing kippah to test attitudes toward Jews
    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.638771
    The article links to this interesting documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cFYmhQMks8
    It’s in Swedish, but when you are logged in, you can read Google-translated English subtitles.

    • German Lefty
      January 24, 2015, 4:23 pm

      I am currently watching the documentary. It mainly deals with Israel-related anti-Semitism. At 33:00 a young Swede of Arab descent is interviewed.
      Reporter: “Why would you throw eggs at Jews?”
      Young man: “We want to retaliate for everything that happens in Palestine, all the murders.”
      Reporter: “But we are Swedish Jews. We have nothing to do with Israel.”
      Young man: “How do we know that? When we see a Jew, we think of Israel and everything that happens there.”
      Reporter: “Is that what causes the problems?”
      Young man: “Yes.”
      Reporter: “Does the Israeli-Palestinian conflict cause your reaction to the Jews?”
      Young man: “It is the only reason for Jew-hatred. It’s the only thing that you think of. […] I want to do something for Palestine, but I can’t help anyone there.”

      • Mooser
        January 24, 2015, 6:44 pm

        What a system they’ve got in Israel!
        They Zionise the profits, and Judaise the costs.

      • eljay
        January 25, 2015, 9:20 pm

        Reporter: “Why would you throw eggs at Jews?”
        Young man: “We want to retaliate for everything that happens in Palestine, all the murders.”
        Reporter: “But we are Swedish Jews. We have nothing to do with Israel.”
        Young man: “How do we know that? When we see a Jew, we think of Israel and everything that happens there.”
        Reporter: “Is that what causes the problems?”
        Young man: “Yes.”
        Reporter: “Does the Israeli-Palestinian conflict cause your reaction to the Jews?”
        Young man: “It is the only reason for Jew-hatred. It’s the only thing that you think of. […] I want to do something for Palestine, but I can’t help anyone there.”

        He’s throwing eggs at Swedish Jews because he wants to help the Palestinians – WTF?!

        That “Young man” is an immoral idiot. He deserves to be arrested, held accountable for his actions and given a good slap upside the head.

      • CigarGod
        January 26, 2015, 1:48 am

        Don’t miss the biggest point. The masses/mobs will always break it down to the lowest common denominator…which is why history will repeat …

      • eljay
        January 26, 2015, 7:50 am

        >> CigarGod: Don’t miss the biggest point. The masses/mobs will always break it down to the lowest common denominator…which is why history will repeat …

        Unfortunately, that point only serves to bolster the claims of Zio-supremacists that Jews can never be safe anywhere but in a supremacist “Jewish State” and that anti-Israel/Zionism – no matter how accurate or justifiable – is nothing more than veiled anti-Semitism.

    • CigarGod
      January 24, 2015, 6:17 pm

      Rob Lowe?
      Hey…isn’t he on Epstein’s passenger manifest with The Hersh and Bubba…and those other under-age con -i-sewers?

      • amigo
        January 25, 2015, 10:15 am

        “Hey…isn’t he on Epstein’s passenger manifest with The Hersh and Bubba…and those other under-age con -i-sewers? ” CG

        Not sure about that but he has had a run in with a minor before.

        http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/celebrity-arrests-they-wish-they-could-forget/3/

      • CigarGod
        January 25, 2015, 11:08 am

        Hey, Amigo.
        Yeah, i was thinking of that with the post. I should have added some sort of ‘wink’. I’m a bad human. I don’t like Lowe, so i pick on him…but…i avert my eyes when it comes to Polanski, Allen, Douglas Fairbanks, etc.

  41. maiselm
    January 25, 2015, 2:25 am

    I seem to be the first person in this thread to recall that General Douglas MacArthur invited himself to address a joint session of Congress less than a month after President Harry S. Truman had relieved MacArthur of his post during the Korean war. I must be the oldest person here, but I am at least well placed to observe that history happens twice, but sometimes the first time is the farce and the second time the tragedy.

    • Annie Robbins
      January 25, 2015, 9:51 am

      General Douglas MacArthur was American five-star general and chief of staff of the U.S. army. i guess i am not clear how he compares to a foreign leader or how his address could be referenced as a ‘farce’.

      on April 19, 1951, MacArthur made his last official appearance in a farewell address to the U.S. Congress presenting and defending his side of his disagreement with Truman over the conduct of the Korean War. During his speech, he was interrupted by fifty ovations.[292] MacArthur ended the address saying:

      I am closing my 52 years of military service. When I joined the Army, even before the turn of the century, it was the fulfillment of all of my boyish hopes and dreams. The world has turned over many times since I took the oath on the plain at West Point, and the hopes and dreams have long since vanished, but I still remember the refrain of one of the most popular barrack ballads of that day which proclaimed most proudly that “old soldiers never die; they just fade away.”

      And like the old soldier of that ballad, I now close my military career and just fade away, an old soldier who tried to do his duty as God gave him the light to see that duty.

      Good Bye.[293]

      • Kathleen
        January 26, 2015, 7:01 pm

        McArthur a far cry from the leader of a foreign nation that continues to repeat unsubstantiated claims about Iran, continues to collect the largest sums of any other foreign nation, and a leader of a country that continues to build illegal housing in E Jerusalem and illegal settlements in the illegally occupied West Bank. A leader of a country that continues to undermine U.S. National Security and ultimately their own. McArthur/ Netanyahu…how does that go like comparing “apples to oranges”

      • maiselm
        January 30, 2015, 9:16 am

        I was merely commenting on the widespread use of “unprecedented” to describe the Republican invitation to Netanyahu. It was a similar Republican invitation to MacArthur that brought him to the podium, and the idea was to embarrass Harry S. Truman. As these comments prove, it seems to have backfired.

  42. Kathleen
    January 25, 2015, 11:47 am

    Just watched my new favorite Melissa Harris Perry since she has been on along with Chris Hayes when he was the host of UP) mainstreamer. Just watched her Saturday program. Not caught up with Sunday yet. But so far nothing about how Boehner and Netanyahu moving the US closer to a confrontation with Iran by pushing more sanctions. Will the MSM focus on this issue in a big way? Anyone see and hear any coverage about this issue on Meet The Press etc. Are they going to follow the war pushers tracks or not? Israel is leaving their fingerprints all over this run up. Not going to be able to erase their fingerprints..so public

    Melissa hit the ball out of the park on domestic class issues. Out of the park. She is remarkable

    • just
      January 25, 2015, 11:51 am

      I’m watching the last bits of MHP now….they’re talking about that sniper blockbuster…

      (thank goodness Scahill is there)

      • Kathleen
        January 26, 2015, 8:19 am

        I think I must have just watched Saturday’s. Did not see the segment Scahill was on. Wondering if people have seen any more coverage of the dangerous move Boehner just made (of course promoted by Netanyahu.) Will the MSM just drop this ball? Israel’s and the I lobbies foot print are clearly there to follow..pushing the U.S. to further escalate the negatives with Iran. Can it be any more evident? Anyone hear anything on any of the MSM outlets mention Israel trumping Obama? I mean one thing to kick Obama, Biden, Kerry in the cajones when they have been in Israel quite another just to come right here and kick them again.

        Thank goodness Kerry at the very least called him out a bit on this despicable move.

        Again anyone hear any of the MSM outlets discuss this serious issue? Are they dropping the ball again

      • just
        January 26, 2015, 8:36 am

        “White House chief of staff Denis McDonough moved to defuse a dispute over Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s upcoming trip to Washington on Sunday, calling relationships between the two countries “many faceted, deep and abiding”.

        Administration officials told Israel’s Haaretz last week Netanyahu had “spat” in Obama’s face by arranging with Republican House speaker John Boehner to speak before Congress in March without first informing the White House.

        The comment “does not reflect the views of this president or this White House”, McDonough told CBS. He said the importance of the relationship meant it was “above partisan politics”.

        McDonough appeared on all the US’s major morning politics shows on Sunday – a move known as “the full Ginsburg” after William Ginsburg, an attorney for Monica Lewinsky who first completed the circuit in 1998.

        On ABC’s This Week, NBC’s Meet the Press, CBS’s Face the Nation, CNN’s State of the Union and Fox News Sunday, McDonough defended White House positions on Yemen, Isis and other issues, and was at pains throughout to stress that relations with Israel remained strong.”

        http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/25/white-house-diffuses-netanyahu-congress-dispute

        It was surprising (not) that Yemen was the last minute, go- to topic on Sunday. That, and ‘terror’, ‘deflated’ footballs, and a bit on the sniper flick.

        The choir sang, loud and strong! All together now!

      • Kathleen
        January 26, 2015, 7:03 pm

        Thanks for that below Just. I know this has been discussed before but I still do not get why you can reply to some comments and not to others just below the comment?

  43. Accentitude
    January 26, 2015, 5:35 am

    “But we trust the Israeli people are aware that in snubbing their Prime Minister, President Obama does not represent the views of the great majority of Americans. In order to do our part to make the Israeli Prime Minister feel welcome in Washington, ECI will host a reception in the Prime Minister’s honor to make clear, in case there’s any doubt, that whatever the president does or says, Americans value our friendship with our ally Israel.

    I love when Israeli lobby groups try to pretend that the “majority” or Americans value the U.S. relationship with Israel as if they personally went door to door and took a poll, when in reality a large number of Americans don’t give a damn about Israel one way or the other and a pretty sizable group hate Israel’s toxic effect on American politics. Sure there are those who will always be American Israel supporters and I’m sure each of us know atleast a few dozen of them but they are by no means any sort of “majority.” The only reason why their views are the de facto view of Washington is because we all know whom are buying U.S. polticians left and right.

  44. Taxi
    January 28, 2015, 5:26 am

    Kinda OT but relevant:

    Hizbollah just attacked idf unit in golan and killed SIXTEEN idf soldiers – this is the hizb’s response to isreal’s terrorist attack on them in Qunaitra last week.

    The ball is now in israel’s court: a slap for a slap is what they have in hand – will israel escalate it to full-blown war?

    I’m like 90 miles from the action – tuning in to Al Mayadeen TV for breaking news on this potentially explosive situation.

    • Taxi
      January 28, 2015, 5:54 am

      Netanahu statement: ‘whoever dares us, well they’ve seen what happened to Gaza’.

      He’s threatening to turn Lebanon into Gaza. But don’t worry folks cuz Lebanon now has the ability to turn israel into Gaza too. The Net knows this – throwing his threats around for domestic consumption.

      This mini war going on right now is a struggle between hizb and idf over deterrance – israel with its attack on Quneitra was challenging the deterrence that the hizb had established since 2006 war – the hizb responded by re-establishing the deterrence. A slap for a slap and a punch for a punch – that’s the reality that israel is in with regards to the hizb and there’s nothing they can do to change it short of starting a full-blown regional war that will find tel aviv turned into Gaza.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 6:14 am
      • Kay24
        January 28, 2015, 6:24 am

        Isn’t it pathetic that Chickenshit takes pleasure in boasting about what he did to Gaza, when he should be ashamed. Today BTselem came out and said that mostly women, children and the elderly were killed by Israel in Gaza last year. Chickenshit can pound his chest and show his voters what a tough guy he is, but really, is it that tough to get your well trained troops to send precision bombs into homes and shelters? That is disgusting to say the least. Now if he waged a war against an equally trained army with the same weapons, that would be different…he is such a low life because he wages a one sided war against civilians, and feels like he conquered the world. Time Israel got rid of this weasel.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 6:28 am

        Escalation from the Lebanon border: rockets fired at isreali settlments.

        (I’m adding info to this series as I hear of new fast-moving developemnts).

        Netanyahu meeting his military right now to figure out the response etc.

    • Taxi
      January 28, 2015, 6:09 am

      I’m hearing the hizb attacked an idf battalion with huge number of ‘war machines and equipment’, the operation was complex but the hizb’s ambush worked for them and there are at least 15 dead idf soldiers. All this has now been confirmed.

      Israel had ZERO INTELLIGENCE on the hizb’s operation. Gigantic failure there.

      I’m watching idf bombing a village near the Shebaa farms in response – the usual retaliation against civilians.

      Road to Sderdot closed by israeli military, Kiryat Shmona evacuated.

      Israel readying to now attack Jabal Al Shiek region with missiles – Jabal Al Shiek is where the hizb executed its operation.

      Panic in settler lalaland… settlers from other northern settlments are volunteering to evacuate.

      Haifa airport closed – and some other small military airport in northern israel.

      My quick analysis: the Golan front has been officially opened, after laying dormant for some forty years. Now israel will be forced to stretch out it’s defenses. Not a secure position to be in.

      Will the aliya-makers arriving to Ben Gurion airport today turn right around and leave?

    • Taxi
      January 28, 2015, 6:17 am

      Netanyahu slaps our President and Nasrallah punches Netanyahu back.

      That’s the news brief for this week.

    • Taxi
      January 28, 2015, 6:19 am

      The hizb is saying that the op was “part one” – the retaliation is not over. Hmmmm.

    • Taxi
      January 28, 2015, 6:25 am

      Kiryat Shemona settlers rushing to shelters or heading south – army tells them to be prepared to ‘defend yourselves’.

      • Kay24
        January 28, 2015, 6:52 am

        I wonder if for one moment, they are intellectually capable of realizing that this is how the Palestinian civilians feel when they flee to shelters, nah, not possible….

    • Taxi
      January 28, 2015, 6:30 am

      Now I’m watching stills of the results of the hizb attack on idf – man, lethal images – idf vehicles are a mass of twisted metal. Hard core!

      There’s also talk of one missing isareli soldier – no confirmation of this yet.

      • Walid
        January 28, 2015, 6:45 am

        The story about the missing soldier, which at this point is only guesswork. Hizbullah attacked a convoy of 8 vehicles that each had 2 soldiers. Since only 15 soldiers have been accounted for, it’s being assumed that the 16th soldier was captured. Still too early for accurate numbers on how many were actually killed, injured or captured.

      • Kay24
        January 28, 2015, 6:50 am

        Walid, that might be the conveniently missing soldier, that will justify Israel’s intended violence, like the time they knew the 3 kids were already murdered, and yet they destroyed Palestinian homes and arrested hundreds? Afterwards, they will admit that that soldier was accounted for.

      • Walid
        January 28, 2015, 6:59 am

        I wouldn’t be surprised, Kay, it’s obvious at this point that Hizbullah returned the Quneitra favour and doesn’t have any intention of escalating the situation any further. Unless of course, Israel responds with an attack on Lebanon, to which Hizbullah will respond. It’s a tough situation because if Netanyahu doesn’t react in force, he will look weak and if he does, Hizbullah will have to respond with equal force to not appear weak. It looks like it’s about to get very ugly unless Netanyahu blinks.

        All Palestinian resistance groups have declared their support for what just happened, but not a word from other Arab countries. The limp Arab League is asking the UNSC to meet to discuss the situation, but it’s not issuing any condemnation of Israel. Bin Jiddo at Mayadeen is livid about this non-Arab support for Hizbullah

        The Spanish UNIFIL soldier that was injured by Israel’s shelling has died.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 7:13 am

        Hizb destroyed 9 israeli missile launchers in the convoy that they ambushed.

        Foof – that’s a big hit.

        Notice how the hizb is focused solely on idf military targets operating on Syrian territory. This carries the least political backlash. Clever buggers!

        Meanwhile the Arab League is freaking out and asking for an emergency UN session to ‘stop hizbollah’ – from punishing israel no doubt. LOL! And how predictable is that?! The Arab League is worth as much to the Arab ’cause’ as Saudi oil is. They’re owned by the wahabi freaks!

        But aaaah, it’s nice to see Palestinian resistance leaders so cheerful today while being interviewed – they usually aren’t. All Levant resistance leaders being interviewed are calling out for all off-shoot resistance groups to unite against the expansionist zionist menace.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 7:17 am

        Looks like Walid and I are watching developments on Al Mayadeen together.

        They’re now saying (in israel) that israel has a ‘bank of targets’ that it will resort to, instead of all out war.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 7:21 am

        Very complex and daring hizb operation: mission accomplished.

        It behooves all israelis to believe every single word that Nasrallah says and not their government propaganda and their politics of fear. Nassrallah calculates reality while the israeli military re-calculates the myth.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 7:28 am

        Not looking like israel can handle a full on war right now. Netanyahu gambled in Quneitra, spent a week smug and strutting his sh*t around – then lost it all at 1pm today, Levant time.

        And I think his speech in congress on the 3rd of March will backfire on him too – in the eyes of the American public.’

      • Walid
        January 28, 2015, 7:29 am

        Hi Taxi, yes on Mayadeen as well as 5 other channels because they are re-broadcasting live what is being shown on various Israeli TV channels. Israel’s pals in Lebanon are starting to surface to criticize Hizbullah for dragging Lebanon into something or other. Same shit as in 2006.

        al-Mayadeen live coverage:

        http://www.almayadeen.net/live

        Among the Israeli dead, a high ranking officer.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 7:34 am

        Nasrallah is slated to give a speech this Friday. This was announced last weekend. No doubt most of israel will be listening in too. PressTV usually runs Nasrallah’s speeches live and with English translation.

      • Kay24
        January 28, 2015, 7:35 am

        Walid, I guess then it is up to Netanyahu to decide if he wants this to escalate or not.
        The problem is that he will pretend they did nothing, but were attacked because, well, they are always attacked, you know the eternal victim. I think Bibi is not a fool, and this will not be a walk in the park, like it seems to be when they attack the civilians of Gaza.

        I wonder when the Israeli people will open their eyes and see Bibi for who he really is, a war monger who constantly looks for war, and making them feel that there are enemies around the world – enemies HE keeps constantly making with his stupid policies, the occupation, land grabs, and ill treatment of his neighbors. After all the neighbors have a right to defend themselves too.

      • Walid
        January 28, 2015, 7:46 am

        Israeli photos of the equipment being used to check for tunnels under the settlements; looks like equipment out of Ghostbusters but on a bigger scale with snaking flexible 5-inch boring tubes. Actually very funny.

        Hizbullah announced that it has no intention of escalating the war any further, but that it will only respond to any further action by Israel.

      • Kay24
        January 28, 2015, 7:49 am

        Taxi, let us not forget that lately he has been looking like a big joke, from elbowing his way in Paris, to forcefully getting an invitation to speak in Congress, like an unwanted guest or parasite. He has been the subject of many scathing articles about this, and it has backfired on him. His political rival Tzipi Livni said this. I think Chickenshit is bringing it on himself, and hopefully he will be the biggest loser on election day. Time for things to change in Israel, if they have the courage to do so.

      • seafoid
        January 28, 2015, 7:55 am

        Israel is the regional thug so any questioning of its virility has to be met with force.
        It’s classic inherited trauma.

  45. bintbiba
    January 28, 2015, 7:58 am

    Walid, Taxi … just joined you on Al Mayadeen !!

    • Walid
      January 28, 2015, 8:04 am

      Welcome aboard, bintbiba, hopefully one day we’ll all meet in a free Palestine.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 8:36 am

        Say, I’m in south Lebanon, close to the 2nd line of defense – about half an hour south east of the ancient port of Sidon – up in them endless rolling hills overlooking the Mediterranean sea. For two days we’ve had israeli F-16’s flying over frequently after a notable long silence. Today: COMPLETE SILENCE IN THE SKIES. I guess the israeli are too busy pulling their pants up at the 1st line of defense heh heh.

    • Taxi
      January 28, 2015, 8:28 am

      Watching Al Mayadeen Arabic TV?

      Easy for Leonardo, as they say! You guys speak fluent Arabic but me and my pidgin Arabic wuhhh! And everyone talking excitedly so fast – yikes! Yeah I keep missing crucial words here and there and I have to keep listening in for repetitions to verify translations in my head. There’s nobody in the house here who speaks fluent Arabic and I’m waiting for a village friend to visit after work and watch Al Mayadeen with me and translate the words that I don’t know. But I gotta say, I learned my Arabic from watching AlMayadeen for a couple of hours, daily and for the past two years. To me, even though I still struggle to understand everything being said, I think it is by far the most informative tv station, probably in the universe – lol! If only they would subtitle in English – man! That would just be an awesome source of info and cogent analysis to millions more people.

      Meanwhile, Leiberman is in China stuffing his face with deep-fried noodles and selling our military secrets on the side, probably.

      • bintbiba
        January 28, 2015, 8:56 am

        All praise to you, Taxi, For your commitment and perseverance !
        How I miss the hills, the Mediterranean, the Pine trees (indigenous,not imported !!) and their aroma in the fresh air.
        Do keep safe !

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 9:04 am

        Bintbiba,

        The hizb men who died in the Qunaitra attack last week were buried a few days ago and were referred to at their burial as ‘the first martyrs in the mission to liberate Al Quds’ (Jerusalem).

        Make no mistake: this is all about Palestine and the Liberation of Palestine.

      • just
        January 28, 2015, 9:07 am

        You can say that again, Taxi! I watch, but miss an awful lot.

        I watch and try to keep up~ lol, indeed. Please do stay safe!

        All I know is that Israel started this whole thing~ AGAIN. They warn against anyone “violating their sovereignty”, but they constantly violate others!

        Nobody has to believe them anymore, do they? They lie, and people die.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 9:10 am

        They’re saying there’s hizb footage of the ambush.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 9:26 am

        I’m perfectly safe where I am. Not worried one bit. Nobody is around here. But they sure are worried in israeli border settlements – panic is the operative word here, they panicking in israel.

      • seafoid
        January 28, 2015, 9:28 am

        Bintbiba

        when is the last time you had the aroma of the real pine trees in your nostrils ?
        I was in the East Bank of Jordan a while ago and smelt it and it was so powerful.

        Taxi

        the hizb story is so interesting. The bots thought the villagers of the south of lebanon were a pushover in 78 and 82 and they had the SLA to torture them. But something flipped in 82 when they miscalculated and Iran got involved and that was beginning of the end of Israeli impunity in Southern Lebanon

      • just
        January 28, 2015, 9:31 am

        I am glad, Taxi.

        Then just enjoy beautiful Lebanon and your friends~ Lebanese and all!

        (Perhaps the “settlers” should pack their bags and go back to their points of origination.)

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 9:41 am

        Seafoid,

        Iran stepped in to help hizbollah later – to get the real grass-root history of hizbollah, visit Mleta Museum where it’s all preserved and told and retold. It was literally a handful of young village men who formed a resistance and secretly trained in the empty hills and came back to attack the occupying idf in their village and succeeded and thus the next village did the same and so on and so forth. The first hizbollah fighters literary used kitchen knives and bird-hunting guns and home-made molotovs. And their biggest weapon in their arsenal? Their courage. They were not afraid to die in the name of liberty.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 9:55 am

        Just,

        I love it here. It’s beautiful just like California but with no botox and no zionists in sight.

        Actually it’s a lot more exciting here than in California – but I sure miss California though. Sadly, spending my last winter here and packing up to go back in a few months.

        I see it like this: instead of having gone back to college to learn Arabic in the USA, I came here and chilled, learned deep politics and did language immersion for three years. I’m a keener analyst for it, that’s for sure.

      • CigarGod
        January 28, 2015, 11:33 am

        Taxi,
        Open invitation to swing by here anytime/on your way back home.
        I can offer you some pine scent, snow-capped vistas, cigars…and a speaking engagement.

      • just
        January 28, 2015, 10:25 am

        Lovely post, Taxi.

        ;-)

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 11:41 am

        LOL Cigary! I wholeheartedly accept the invite – Wyoming is my spiritual home (Yellowstone) – but can I bring my dog along? She’s a great public speaker and has had much experience barking at israeli F-16’s flying overhead.

        When I think of going back to my beach-bum life in LA, I experience instant and painful mental boredom. No doubt I’ll get there and start getting itchy feet soon after – plus I’m long overdue to visit Wyoming – haven’t been there in 6 years!

        I’m over living in cities. I wanna live wrapped in the silence of the countryside. Who needs cities when you’ve got the internet?

      • CigarGod
        January 28, 2015, 12:06 pm

        You betcha, man! Dogs are princes of the realm around here. I dont know of any with f-16 experience. What a great show and tell addition.

  46. Whizdom
    January 28, 2015, 8:47 am

    This shit is going International. The convoy attack was in the Shebaa Farms area, claimed by Lebanon and occupied by Israel. The Rocket attack was in the Mount Hermon region, in the Golan, claimed by Syria, and occupied by Israel. Both areas are critical sources of ground water feeding Israel’s supply.

    One UNIFIL observer killed.
    It drives me nuts to see the media show maps with these areas as “Israel”, and the incidents as attacks on Sovereign Israeli territory. They are not.

    • CigarGod
      January 28, 2015, 10:19 am

      Whitehouse silent. Maybe that’s a good thing.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 10:59 am

        Hearing that the mid east ‘regional powers/allies’ burned their phones out this morning calling the WH in a panic and saying the region could not stand another new war and to pressure israel into not escalating. Never mind that israel is too dumpy to escalate – these ‘regional powers’ are fearful of a regional war that will see them unseated from their religious dictatorships.

        Put it this way: a war between israel and hizbollah would push media interest in isis out the window and would revive the spirit of the original Arab spring (not the fake one that swallowed it up).

      • CigarGod
        January 28, 2015, 11:11 am

        Yeah man. I love watching science in action.

    • just
      January 28, 2015, 10:25 am

      +1!

    • lysias
      January 28, 2015, 11:44 am

      Was the firing on the UN peacekeepers deliberate? Surely Israeli artillery would have known the coordinates of where the peacekeepers were.

      • just
        January 28, 2015, 12:03 pm

        Good question. Perhaps it was retribution for this:

        “UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – U.N. peacekeepers stationed in the Golan Heights along the Syrian-Israeli border observed drones coming from the Israeli side before and after an airstrike that killed top several Hezbollah figures, the United Nations said on Monday.

        The flight of the drones in the airspace over the Golan Heights was a violation of the 1974 ceasefire agreement between Syria and Israel, U.N. spokesman Farhan Haq told reporters.”

        http://news.yahoo.com/u-n-saw-drones-over-syria-israel-strike-182604247.html

    • lysias
      January 28, 2015, 11:46 am

      I was unaware that there were Israeli settlements on the Golan Heights. But now we hear about them. http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=192740&frid=23&seccatid=18&cid=23&fromval=1

  47. just
    January 28, 2015, 9:28 am

    I know that I shouldn’t be surprised at anything emanating from the PM, but here he is:

    “Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu cut short a visit to Sderot, close to the Gaza border, to be briefed by senior security officials in Tel Aviv. Before leaving, he told reporters: “I suggest that all those who are challenging us on our northern border, look at what happened in Gaza, not far from the city of Sderot. Hamas suffered the most serious blow since it was founded this past summer and the IDF is prepared to act on every front.”

    Wednesday’s incident came only hours after Israeli jets hit several targets inside Syria. The shells struck near Wazzani village.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/28/israel-missile-lebanon-syria-hezbollah

    • Kay24
      January 28, 2015, 9:34 am

      He is very good at bluster and thumping his chest, let’s give him that. He may feel proud he was able to massacre women, children and the elderly, in Gaza, as disclosed by BTselem, but we should remember that this time they lost more troops and even admitted that Hamas fought hard. If they think they are going to have it easy with the Hez, they are sadly mistaken.

      • CigarGod
        January 28, 2015, 10:24 am

        That does sound like he is accepting the hiz “tat” in response for his “tit”.

      • seafoid
        January 28, 2015, 11:15 am

        Zionism does disproportionate.
        It’s why I think it will end in blood.

    • bintbiba
      January 28, 2015, 10:01 am

      Seafoid,
      It has been many ,many years since i last went to the East Bank(Jerusalem & Bethlehem in 1967)but I’ve lived off and on in Lebanon till !990 . All the wars ,invasions, etc.. I was there.

      The aroma of pine trees in the fresh breeze will always be a beautiful memory . I had been cut off ,sadly, from the events in the ME as I was busy extricating myself from personal griefs and difficulties ,all in farawy places !

      I’m back now ,much older and maybe a little wiser.
      Do you ever come to London ?

      • seafoid
        January 28, 2015, 11:17 am

        I haven’t been there much recently Bintbiba but that may change.
        I would love to have a shisha on the Edgware Road and catch up with you sometime. Inshallah.

  48. just
    January 28, 2015, 9:37 am

    “Two Israeli soldiers were killed and seven wounded when an anti-tank missile struck an Israel Defense Forces vehicle in the Har Dov area near the Lebanon border on Wednesday morning, as mortar shells were fired at nearby areas.

    IDF forces responded with artilley fire, shelling several targets in southern Lebanon. A Spanish UNIFIL soldier was killed in the strikes.

    Seven IDF troops were being treated at the Sieff Hospital in Safed and the Rambam Hospital in Haifa. Three suffered light to moderate wounds, and the rest were lightly wounded. The IDF said that no soldier had been kidnapped, despite earlier reports.

    Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, who was meeting with China’s foreign minister in Beijing, said Israel should respond in a “forceful and disproportionate manner” to the events, in the way that the U.S. or China would respond to similar events. He told his Chinese counterpart that he expects Israel to receive support from her friends in the world for such a response. ”

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.639486

    He advocates “disproportionate force”. He “expects Israel to receive support from her friends in the world for such a response. ”

    They don’t have all that many friends left. Good grief!

    • bintbiba
      January 28, 2015, 11:31 am

      Seafoid , my smoking days are long over !
      Would gladly ‘shoot the breeze’ with you anytime.

  49. CigarGod
    January 28, 2015, 9:51 am

    Great history post, Taxi.
    I love the universal/grass roots nature of the genesis.
    Very much in style of the America…well, hell…i dont even know what is truth or myth…in regard to America.

    • Taxi
      January 28, 2015, 10:48 am

      It really is incredible how a handful of young southern Lebanese men set up a local resistance group that is now an undefeated regional power players.

      The hizb wars against israel and hizb tactics are the most studied in military academies around the world.

      You should check out Nasrallah’s speech this coming Friday on presstv – catch it live if you can – well you’re up early enough for mideast time right? I think it’s on at 3pm Beirut time which is 5pm California time.

      • CigarGod
        January 28, 2015, 11:08 am

        Thanks for the speech heads up. Ive tried for years to poke holes in that guy…and always come away impressed. Yep, im up. My sleep habits are so much like a cat…i should wear a cat-cam.

  50. just
    January 28, 2015, 10:35 am

    Mama Cast Lead speaks:

    “Livni: Israel will hit back ‘harshly’ for Hezbollah attack

    ‘Whether this is Iran acting through Hezbollah or whether it is Syria, IDF will strike back without compromise,’ says Zionist Camp co-chair.

    Zionist Camp co-chair MK Tzipi Livni said during a tour of the northern border that Israel will respond “harshly” to Hezbollah’s Wednesday morning attack on an Israeli army vehicle, which caused casualties.

    “At this time it should be clear to all: Whether this [attack] is Iran acting through Hezbollah, or whether it is the Syrians, an attack on soldiers or civilians will be answered harshly and without compromise by the IDF,” said Livni. “Hezbollah is part of the extreme Islamist axis in the Middle East and it must be dealt with by force, and the IDF and its soldiers know how to do this precisely and responsibly.””

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.639537?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    “precisely and responsibly”???

    It’s not Iran and it’s not Syria… though Israel has “hit” them recently…

    Interestingly, from an article yesterday:

    “Lebanon received a shipment of military vehicles as part of the United States military assistance program to the Lebanese Armed Forces.”

    http://yalibnan.com/2015/01/27/lebanon-army-gets-another-batch-of-us-military-aid/

    • Taxi
      January 28, 2015, 10:51 am

      All for domestic reasons, just. Livni knows only two well that to strike at Lebanon means a strike on tel aviv.

      No politician in israel wants to tell the sick israelis that they’re not all that anymore – they’d never get voted in if they told the truth.

      • Walid
        January 28, 2015, 10:59 am

        Israel just advised the UNIFIL forces that its side of the hostilities have ended,

        That was a really short war. 6 hours in total, a new record on short wars.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 11:09 am

        LOL Walid, yeah I just heard that too.

        So we’ve had the Six Day War, and now we have the Six Hour War – next it’ll be the Six Minute War.

        Hands down, clearly the hizb won the battle for deterrence – again.

        The israelis thought they took that away from the hizb a week ago then the hizb quickly turned the tables right back to their favor again. And so swiftly too. Apparently the israelis weren’t expecting a response ‘so soon’. LOL!

        Look out for extra demonization of the hizb in western media because israel’s butt is hurting.

      • just
        January 28, 2015, 11:10 am

        Thanks, Taxi and Walid.

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 11:14 am

        Walid,

        Looks like the hizb knew exactly what the isreali convoy was carrying, and also knew the time they would be going through the pass where they were ambushed.

        Freaky intelligence!

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 11:18 am

        Walid,

        Many calls for unity for Levant resistance groups. This latest hizb op will energize recruitment into the Levant resistance and not wahaf*ckingbism!

      • Taxi
        January 28, 2015, 11:22 am

        Palestinians are a happy lot today. I’m seeing Lebanese flags flying in Gaza! Public gathering and speeches in Gaza square praising the hizb and all resistors against the zionist regime.

        They are so grateful to the hizb for kicking some zio ass today.

      • seafoid
        January 28, 2015, 11:25 am

        The Hezb have a balance of power thing going on with the bots. And they have better weapons than Hamas. And Israel can’t go postal over dead Jewish boys as it would in Gaza.

        The Wahhabis on the other hand are never going to touch Israel.

      • Walid
        January 28, 2015, 12:44 pm

        “The Wahhabis on the other hand are never going to touch Israel. ”

        Of course, and for those that aren’t familiar with this movement, it’s not predominant only in Saudia but it also in the other Wahhabi states of Qatar, the UAE, Bahrain and Oman in varrying degrees of rigidity. Its mildest form is in Qatar and in Turkey where it’s manifested in the more tolerant Brotherhood.

      • seafoid
        January 28, 2015, 12:49 pm

        http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.639486

        “Jumblatt is the leader of the Druze Progressive Socialist Party, formerly affiliated with the March 14 Alliance, but currently siding with Hezbollah on the Syria Civil War. ”

        That is SO Lebanese Druze.
        why do we never hear about the Arslan family ?

      • Walid
        January 28, 2015, 1:00 pm

        “Looks like the hizb knew exactly what the isreali convoy was carrying, -” (Taxi)

        Strange that only the Arab media is saying that the object of the attack was the general of the Givati Brigade and that he was killed. Israel is saying that only 2 soldiers were killed and lying as usual, of course, but in time it will be known how many Israeli soldiers actually died in the attack. From those photos of the charred vehicles that became twisted metal as Taxi mentioned, no one could have survived.

        There’s a good chance that on Friday during Nasrallah’s speech, we’ll be seeing a full video of the event because mostly all Hizbullah operations are videotaped and the video would expose all the Israeli lies. If so, it will be declaration No 2

      • Walid
        January 28, 2015, 1:26 pm

        “why do we never hear about the Arslan family ?” (seafoid)

        First, Haaretz is wrong in saying that Jumblatt switched his allegiance; he’s still exactly as always, namely a sort of decider since his 5 MPs hold the balance of power in the legislature as the 2 other opposing parties (8 and 14)are split almost 50-50 and Jumblatt oscillates from one side to the other depending on the issue.

        The Jumblatt and Arslan families both go back about 500 years in Lebanon’s history but during most of the years, the ruling family has been the Jumblatt with the bigger following (and fortune) with the princely position occupied by the Arslans. Walid Jumblatt’s mother May was an Arslan.

      • lysias
        January 28, 2015, 1:54 pm
      • Walid
        January 28, 2015, 2:33 pm

        “Commander of the Givati brigade?” (lysias)

        Twitter message, lysias referring back to Channel 2 News of Israel. Being sent by people commenting on Independent and on Press TV of Iran. Maybe they’re quoting each other:

        “RIP – #IStandWithIsrael @ILNewsFlash : Israel’s Channel 2: The commander of a Givati Brigade unit was among those killed in the Golan.
        Cameron Gray @Cameron_Gray 4 hours ago “

      • lysias
        January 28, 2015, 3:09 pm

        2 dead Israeli soldiers have now been identified. They both belonged to the Givati Brigade, and one of them was a captain. Israel on brink of new conflict with Hizbollah after 2 soldiers killed:

        The Israeli military confirmed that two of its soldiers had been killed and another seven wounded. The dead soldiers were named as Sergeant Dor Chaim Nini, 20, and Captain Yochai Kalangel, 25, of the Givati Brigade.

    • Walid
      January 28, 2015, 1:45 pm

      “Lebanon received a shipment of military vehicles as part of the United States military assistance program to the Lebanese Armed Forces.” (Just)

      Humvees don’t kill terrorists, missiles on helicopters do, but the US will not allow Lebanon to have those. or allow other countries to sell some to Lebanon. Thanks to US aid, the Lebanese army stopped travelling in Korea-vintage Jeep Willis cars and now do so in the classy gas-guzzling Humvees. About 4 or 5 years back, the US also helped the police force move up from its Nissan Patrol cars to the gaz-guzzling Dodge Chargers; Lebanon got 400 of those. At the time it was a great boon to Chrysler and to GM and Lebanon was grateful for the help. But no missiles.

    • seafoid
      January 28, 2015, 2:53 pm

      I have no sympathy for Israeli soldiers who die when they run into hezb traps. God knows Israel has killed enough Palestinians using informers.
      Live by the sword, die in agony.

      G-d’s will, surely

      And if it is a senior soldier that’ll be revenge for Mughniyeh.

  51. seafoid
    January 28, 2015, 3:00 pm

    And this notion that it’s dead Israeli soldiers, the reaction has to be disproportionate- who the fuck do the Israelis think they are? The Shia have been around in the area far longer than the bots have and they have as much right to use violence as any IDF grunt.

    The bots have gone nuts from all the abuse meted out to Gaza.

  52. just
    January 28, 2015, 3:31 pm

    Of course some are screaming “terrorism”, but I’m with Munayyer:

    “This was an attack against a military target, in occupied territory, in retaliation for an airstrike. Whatever it is, it isn’t “terrorism””

    https://twitter.com/YousefMunayyer/status/560448273644007424

    Especially in view of the fact that:

    Nini’s brother Aviel said: “Dor only went up north yesterday. My brother was a heroic soldiers who loved helping everyone. He had a huge heart. He was a jovial boy, and was happy to be serving as a combat soldier. In Operation Protective Edge he fought inside the Gaza Strip. We were very worried for him then, and when he left, we threw him a big party.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.639593

    That massacre was/is terrorism.

    (anyway, most articles that I’ve read today refer to Hezbollah as “militants”)

  53. biggerjake
    January 29, 2015, 5:28 am

    Neither Bibi nor Israel are true friends of the US. Here Bibi is bragging about how easily he manipulates simple minded American politicians….like Boehner: http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2010/07/14/bibi-the-bamboozler-to-settlers-america-wont-get-in-our-way-its-easily-moved/

    Almost every Islamist terrorist group sites the illegal, immoral Israeli occupation of Palestine and the brutal treatment of the Palestinians and America’s unconditional support for Israel no matter how many innocent Arabic women and children are murdered as the prime reason their organization was started. Bin Laden himself said it was his driving motive in starting Al Qaeda and organizing the 9/11 attacks.

    The US should stop all support for Israel and start treating Bibi like the international criminal that he is. He shouldn’t even be allowed to travel here…in fact the ICC should have him arrested if he leaves Israel.

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