‘Obama coffee’ is black and weak — racist tweet from wife of Israel’s vice premier

Israel/Palestine

The internet is buzzing with the racist tweet by the wife of an Israeli minister.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CICODZdUMAArPkj.jpg:large

 

Silvan Shalom

Silvan Shalom

Mozes is a journalist and radio host. She’s married to Silvan Shalom, Israel’s vice prime minister and minister of the interior. The Independent says Mozes has since removed the tweet and apologized.

Mozes:

I apologize, that was a stupid joke somebody told me.

She elaborated on twitter, saying her marriage is at risk:

President Obama I shouldnt have written the inappropriate joke I heard. I like people no matter about their race and religion.

Sorry if I caused any offence to anyone. I hope I will stay married when my husband will land and hear what I did.

Mozes is no pisher; she has 74,000 followers on twitter. Notice that she tweets in Hebrew and English. The racist tweet was in English.

David Sheen writes,

Israel Interior Minister responsible for rounding non-Jewish black folks into camps, so no surprise his wife’s racist

More intolerance reported by Yousef Munayyer, from Michael Oren:

Former Israel Amb to the US says Obama efforts to reach out to Muslim world product of Obama being abandoned by two muslim fathers. WTF

The kooky quote is from Oren’s latest op-ed.

Obama’s attitudes toward Islam clearly stem from his personal interactions with Muslims… I could imagine how a child raised by a Christian mother might see himself as a natural bridge between her two Muslim husbands. I could also speculate how that child’s abandonment by those men could lead him, many years later, to seek acceptance by their co-religionists

Is there an emergency brake on this car? And who does Mozes hang out with that she hears this kind of thing?

Both statements are bizarre examples of Israeli leaders’ difficulty understanding an increasingly diverse world that is at odds with Zionism. So we see a growing siege mentality, an inability to connect, and extreme anger even at the President of Israel’s best ally. It’s hard to imagine this coming out of any politician’s mouth in the U.S., at that level. And it’s more evidence of Israel’s racist rightward reality, which is regularly reported on our site and regularly papered over in the New York Times. Max Blumenthal and Joseph Dana documented this 6 years ago and people said they were lying. And it’s likely just to get worse from here.

 

 

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  1. Kay24
    June 21, 2015, 2:40 pm

    Once said the damage is done. She obviously said something she believes in. She is a racist just like most of the zionists are. Deep down they look down on all who are not Jewish, are black, and who they call “goyim”. Too late for her to apologize, she tried to please her fans, but she was not intelligent enough to know the consequences of her ugly words, and there is no point blaming it on someone who said this “joke”, isn’t she able to fathom it out herself, or does she simply regurgitate what others say?. As a wife of a top official, she should have known to be a bit more classy.

    • ritzl
      June 21, 2015, 6:09 pm

      She probably was being “classy.” Somehow I get the feeling that the original “joke” was worse, as those racist things tend to be.

      • Kay24
        June 22, 2015, 6:53 am

        I am sure the “jokes” said in private are far worse. There have been endless insulting statements by these zionists, and apologies for them later on when there is some outrage shown.

    • weiss
      June 22, 2015, 5:03 am

      It is quite difficult for a racist thug to act “classy” it simply is not in their nature.

      This is systemic racism and White Privilege gone wild…

      Visions of South Carolina and the Confederate flag on the mantle.

    • Elliot
      June 22, 2015, 9:43 am

      I think what’s going in there is an identification of Israeli elites with the U.S. Zionism aspired to integrate the (Ashkenazi) Jews into Europe. That love affair didn’t work out so well. So Israelis see themselves as part of America (I guess the billions in aid make that true). Israelis see New York as their stomping ground, consume American culture as if it’s their own.
      There is anti-Black racism within the Israeli Jewish community. Look at the Israeli Ethiopian Jewish community. But Nir Mozes wouldn’t use an offensive line like this against Black Israelis. She thought she was cracking an American joke. There are plenty of places in America, including in the Jewish community, where racist jokes at Obama’s expense are socially acceptable. I’ve heard them.

      btw, the identification of Israelis with the U.S. seems to cut both ways of the racial divide: Israeli Ethiopians took to the streets following the Baltimore killing and Black Lives Matter movement.

      • ziusudra
        June 22, 2015, 1:42 pm

        Greetings Elliott,
        ….Ms Nozes, the racist……
        It would intrigue me more to know where she stands in Israel against
        their Euro Etnicities?
        Which one is she or which is she against?
        It’s said there’s no love between the different Euro or Levant Jews.
        ziusudra

    • Eric
      June 22, 2015, 10:11 am

      I wouldn’t say it’s “deep down.” I’d say the racism is right on the surface.

    • bognajpierw
      June 22, 2015, 11:25 am

      Woops! Ms. Mozes has forfeited for her people their right to possess their so-called ancestral inheritance (all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates).
      The Supreme Being’s promise to the ancient people of Israel — the promise that modern Zionists cite as their title to exclusive possession of Eretz Yisrael (the whole of the land) — turns out NOT to be exactly carte blanche. There is “a string attached.” In fact, the divine promise exacted from the recipient a promise in return: The receivers of this land-gift must behave in a certain manner, must observe certain moral principles, or THE PROMISE IS OFF. Possession of this land is CONTINGENT on your extending kindness to those who are NOT YOU, who don’t look like you, who may not worship as you do, who may not worship any divine entity whatsoever.

      Hear, O Israel [Shma Yisrael!] the following:

      if you do not oppress the foreigner, [among others]. . . then I will let you live in this place, in the land I gave your ancestors for ever and ever.
      — Jeremiah 7: 6-7

      • CigarGod
        June 22, 2015, 11:31 am

        Brilliant.
        Maybe we can include such a thing in childhood shots.

      • Kay24
        June 22, 2015, 11:47 am

        Going against their own religion and teachings eh? Seems they conveniently shout anti-semitism when it suits them, but do not adhere to their scriptures which is anti Judaism.

  2. Citizen
    June 21, 2015, 3:03 pm

    Figures.

  3. Cliff
    June 21, 2015, 3:05 pm

    Israeli Jews are among the most racist population on the planet. I wouldn’t feel safe in Israel as a non-white person.

    • catalan
      June 21, 2015, 3:23 pm

      Israeli Jews are among the most racist population on the planet. I wouldn’t feel safe in Israel as a non-white person. – Cliff
      Good thinking. I don’t feel safe after 6 pm in Downtown Albuquerque and I am a white guy with some martial arts training and in excellent shape.
      But remembering Tel Aviv, I saw every possible race and ethnicity, including a surprising number of East Asians. It’s impossible for anyone to stick out and you hear a thousand languages on the streets. Many Indians go for cancer treatment at Hadasa, a fact that I was sadly familiarized with.
      Politically incorrect humor is very common in Eastern Europe, Russia, and other places where Israelis hail from. When I read Bulgarian commenters on the Internet, it’s at once shocking but also refreshing to see that openness. It’s a cultural difference. There are fewer taboos there, but I have a suspicicion that because racism in America is so suppressed, it tends to explode in mass killings. I think we all need to grow a thicker skin. Let’s yell it out instead of killing each other. Its human to be prejudiced, we don’t need to pretend we are saints.

      • tokyobk
        June 21, 2015, 6:52 pm

        Israel is indeed diverse and the divide is not black and white its Jewish and not-Jewish.
        But its clear which Jews are in charge politically and socially: white Jews from Europe and the US. There is a thought bubble out of which this kind of “innocent” banter comes and the point being made, correctly, is there is much daylight between white American Jews and white Israelis in attitudes about race.

      • echinococcus
        June 21, 2015, 7:24 pm

        tokyobk,

        Those “White Israelis” seem to belong mostly to the “White American Jews” mention in the same breath. Attributing some ideal general attitude opposed to the Zionist racist one to equally Zionist Americans sounds like wishful, magical thinking at best.

      • Keith
        June 21, 2015, 7:32 pm

        CATALAN- “…I am a white guy with some martial arts training and in excellent shape.”

        Jeez, has Mondo started a “personals” section? Well, good luck to you.

      • tokyobk
        June 21, 2015, 7:37 pm

        echi–

        In my experience most white American Jews have the same range of ideas about race as non-Jews — if not slightly more liberal (at least since the 1960’s), but whatever the thinking privately would never say such a stupid thing on Twitter. The general (polite and public society) American environment is far advanced from this kind of thing and I think the point of the reaction is to show again the difference between the US and Israel however much there is assumed to be no daylight.

        Now, are American Jews more liberal on Palestinians? Of course not, Pogressive Except Palestine is a real thing.

      • lysias
        June 21, 2015, 7:54 pm

        Lynchings happened in the U.S. at a time when people felt quite free to indulge in racist language.

      • amigo
        June 21, 2015, 7:58 pm

        “Good thinking. I don’t feel safe after 6 pm in Downtown Albuquerque and I am a white guy with some martial arts training and in excellent shape. “catalan

        Why would you not feel safe .What with 4 graduate degrees and six languages and martial arts training, ( anything you forgot to tell us) you should be able to handle those dumb Americans who are bad at maths and science and pretty much every subject and are overweight and seem to spend most of their time whining (according to you).Nope , I see no reason for you to be the least bit concerned about those spoiled bourgeois yanks.

        “There are fewer taboos there, but I have a suspicicion that because racism in America is so suppressed, it tends to explode in mass killings. I think we all need to grow a thicker skin. Let’s yell it out instead of killing each other. Its human to be prejudiced, we don’t need to pretend we are saints.” catalan

        So , if I have this correct , you would be in favour of disbanding the whole ADL project and firing old Abe F and the shut down the NAACP and all that anti racism baloney.

        The more we get inside your head , the more we understand why you “left ” Bulgaria.

      • gamal
        June 22, 2015, 12:08 am

        “the divide is not black and white its Jewish and not-Jewish.”
        “its clear which Jews are in charge politically and socially: white Jews from Europe and the US”

        if its not a “division” it must just be that its natural for white people to be in charge I guess, “black” is specifically an ascribed identity within a system of privilege, some “black” Jews of Ethiopian descent would disagree with you about the nature of the stratification of Israeli society. Smadar Lavie (Yemeni mother White father) ascribes her access to higher education to her fathers white privilege and social contacts, which she lost as a divorced mother.

        I knew an “black” African Rabbi in the UK who was attempting to get refugee status there, after failing to do so in Sweden to escape the vicious racism of Israel, where he had lived for a decade, we were both clients of a Kenyan lawyer working in Ealing.

        You have no Black Consciousness whatever your genetic heritage and are rather lazily trying to use putative blackness to further privilege Jewishness, are you not the poster whose rebartative musings about Obama’s constructed identity revealed your own strange notions about identity

        “With Obama, imo its not the dream of identity in general which is particularly appealing, but specifically the allure of belonging to a place naturally.

        It makes sense that he would want to heap legitimacy on essential identities

        since his own has been constructed.

        Over the course of his life he had to learn how to present hims self (sic) as legitimate both to the black and white community, or rather various black and white communities.”

        “I would also say, without endorsing equal narratives, that it is impossible to have One State until a sufficient number of Israelis and (more importantly) Palestinians abandon the idea that there is such a thing as someone who does not belong naturally to the place they are living. In fact, One State (based in rights and democracy) is the ultimate form of normalization.”

        and because its so good not forgetting

        “You find reflexive essentialism among the Israeli right but also among the Palestinians across the spectrum and prominent in the international left. Which is why even here people who normally reject race and ethnocentrism rant about DNA, Khazars, are offended that Obama looked at the Dead Sea Scrolls, and argue usually for the assumed rights of a Palestinian people, not the individual ones of the citizen (or future citizen) whose parentage is irrelevant.” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/tokyobk?keyword=obama#sthash.hSNe3xon.dpuf

        you could hardly be whiter.

      • RoHa
        June 22, 2015, 2:09 am

        “Jeez, has Mondo started a “personals” section?”

        : )

      • aiman
        June 22, 2015, 4:39 am

        +10, gamal!

      • lonely rico
        June 22, 2015, 5:05 pm

        >catalan

        It’s a cultural difference. There are fewer taboos … Let’s yell it out instead of killing each other.

        Or do like the Israelis,
        yell out the racist slurs and

        then kill ’em !

      • catporn
        June 23, 2015, 6:10 am

        I’m a 5’10 SWF that likes movies and knitting and even I have mild trepidation in downtown Lagos after 2am, all those black men with warped psyche’s caused by long departed fathers that were undeniably of the wrong religion, my my its enough to make anyone reach for self aggrandizement at the very least. Its only sleazy if you believe it is, I take mine black with 3 sugars.. Sugar.

      • just
        June 23, 2015, 6:27 am

        lol, Keith and RoHa!!

        Nice to see you back, catporn~ thanks for the giggle!

    • RobertHenryEller
      June 21, 2015, 3:28 pm

      I wouldn’t feel safe in Israel as a Jew who believes in the Commandments to not lie, not steal, not murder, as a Jew who practices the Golden Rule. Apparently Jews such as I get beaten with impunity.

      Israel is the last place on Earth I would feel safe being a Jew.

      Israel is only safe for Zionist-Racist-Fascists. For the present.

      • Marnie
        June 22, 2015, 12:33 am

        “Good thinking. I don’t feel safe after 6 pm in Downtown Albuquerque and I am a white guy with some martial arts training and in excellent shape. “

        Geez, everything at your feet, white male privilege and you’re trained in martial arts too (wow) – and you’re still scared? You sound like the average Jewish Israeli male – angry, fearful and with a massive inferiority complex. That inferiority complex you must overcome on your own, without the assistance of walls, checkpoints and razor wire. Oh sorry, forgot you live in Israel’s largest occupied territory – Amerikkka.

      • catalan
        June 22, 2015, 8:32 am

        “You sound like the average Jewish Israeli male – angry, fearful and with a massive inferiority complex. – ” Marnie
        Only, I am not. I am Bulgarian and spent many years working with other immigrants in the restaurant business. Trust me, America doesn’t look so fine from that angle.
        The point about martial arts was exaggerated. It was quite a few years ago. That said, it’s comical when Americans speak of “safety” in other places when our own cities are such a mess. And I was expressing the opinion of my co-workers, particularly women, more than my own. They are the ones that hate walking to their car after work. Bonfire of the vanities has a great passage on this topic, for the literary minded.
        Also,Marnie, you must be a psychologist. Such a precise definition of all my foibles. And without ever having met me. Impressive.

      • Mooser
        June 22, 2015, 11:29 am

        “Also,Marnie, you must be a psychologist. Such a precise definition of all my foibles. And without ever having met me. Impressive.”

        So, “catalan”, you have written reams of stuff about yourself, endeavoring to give us a picture of yourself and your views, and none of it is true? It was all meant to fool us, and none of the very obvious conclusions to be drawn from it are valid?

        Another words, your only object is to distort and divert. Isn’t this the second or third time you have declared this?

        (Clicking the name above any comment will access that commentor’s archive. The archive is word-searchable.)

      • catalan
        June 22, 2015, 11:58 am

        “So, “catalan”, you have written reams of stuff about yourself, endeavoring to give us a picture of yourself and your views, and none of it is true? “Mooser
        Marnie pointed out that Israeli males are” angry, fearful, and have a massive inferiority complex”. Now, as you know, I am not Israeli, I have only visited three times in my life.
        That said, the only conclusion would be that American males, such as yourself, are calm, poised, and have a massive superiority complex. That seems a fair assessment, wouldn’t you think? See, I was told for much of my life that I was inferior – waiting every day for a month or two at the German or Belgian or American embassy can do that one’s psyche. Or waiting for Polish people to come vacationing so they can sell you car parts for a socialist car.
        Mooser, your poise as an American male is quite simply an unattainable standard for lesser, middle eastern beings like me. But at least we “inferiors” now have a standard. Mooser, here we come.

      • Marnie
        June 22, 2015, 12:33 pm

        Catalan – couldn’t respond to your post so here instead –

        “The point about martial arts was exaggerated. It was quite a few years ago. That said, it’s comical when Americans speak of “safety” in other places when our own cities are such a mess. And I was expressing the opinion of my co-workers, particularly women, more than my own. ”

        Thanks for clarifying that you are in fact a liar and pretty odd one at that – describing yourself as a white guy with martial arts training only to admit that you were expressing the opinion of your co-workers and your skills were exaggerated. Weird.

      • catalan
        June 22, 2015, 12:58 pm

        Marnie,
        If your statement about angry, fearful, etc Israeli males was made regarding Black males, or Latino males, or Arab males, it would not have passed moderation.
        You have now demonstrated two things at the same time. That only one class of statements get “moderated” here, and that the casual bigotry of some Israelis has its equivalent among some Americans, so thanks.

      • oldgeezer
        June 22, 2015, 1:03 pm

        @catalan

        Middle eastern?

        I thought you were Bulgarian. I was unaware that Bulgaria immigrated from the middle east to Europe.

      • just
        June 22, 2015, 1:12 pm

        He/she’s a real everything and everyman/woman. (I lol’d on that one, oldgeezer)

        What are we supposed to believe anyway?

      • Mooser
        June 22, 2015, 1:18 pm

        “he/she’s a real everything and everyman/woman.”

        Yes, and, to crown the achievement, in ‘this best of all possible worlds!’

      • Mooser
        June 22, 2015, 1:25 pm

        “Mooser, your poise as an American male is quite simply an unattainable standard for lesser, middle eastern beings like me. But at least we “inferiors” now have a standard. Mooser, here we come.”

        Everything you need to know is right here! Watch, and learn.

      • tree
        June 22, 2015, 1:53 pm

        If your statement about angry, fearful, etc Israeli males was made regarding Black males, or Latino males, or Arab males, it would not have passed moderation.

        Diversionary bullshit as usual. Ever read your own comments here, catalan?You regularly bash Americans in your comments and yet you think that a generalization about the “average Israeli male” is over the line? A very obvious double standard on your part.

        “That’s what I am saying, beneath the American mask of “we are so tolerant” is the depth of viscous bigotry. ”

        “The fact is that American self satisfaction (we have come a long way, we are so tolerant, we are so accepting of gays) is in the words of someone smarter, an extraordinary popular delusion. ”

        “I just don’t buy this concept that I owe something to the American people as a whole. I pay lots and lots in taxes, you know. There is a lot of mediocrity here, scams, fraud. In general, people are spoiled, both because they are born in abundance, but also just from residing in such a powerful place. They think they are great because their country is powerful. Like the kid whose father is a prize fighter.”

        “Americans are not gentle innocents corrupted by Israel. We are greedy aggressors and we have always been so.”

        “The American president has not become a deity yet despite American fascination with the late Roman republic. “

        http://mondoweiss.net/profile/catalan?keyword=american

        All from a quick search of your comments using the keyword “American”. All of them of course passed moderation.

    • hophmi
      June 22, 2015, 1:09 pm

      Have you been to Israel, Cliff?

      • Mooser
        June 22, 2015, 1:32 pm

        “Have you been to Israel, Cliff?”

        Yes, this year’s production of “Fiddler” is better than ever! And the food is like ambrosia, and the portions, so huge!

      • hophmi
        June 24, 2015, 10:34 am

        I guess the answer is no.

      • Mooser
        June 24, 2015, 1:55 pm

        I never understand what that “Have you been to Israel” is supposed to accomplish.
        Hophmi, what on earth will “Cliff” see, hear, taste or smell in Israel which will change his mind?

        Fer Gawd’s sake, Hophmi, kids on Birthright tours are regularly being alienated by the things they see on a visit to Israel.

        What on earth is supposed to change his mind, the taste of the food, the size of the portions?

      • CigarGod
        June 24, 2015, 3:52 pm

        Haven’t you heard?
        Now, when you step out of your plane at Ben Gurion, you step into a huge birth canal…and slide down to the ground…lips first. By virtue of this special slide, you are instantly endowed with all the historical knowledge, rights…and especially privileges afforded to a citizen. Oh, I almost forgot, you will instantly think Gefilte fish is the most appealing food you have ever seen.

      • just
        June 24, 2015, 5:48 pm

        Enough of a reason to not even bother to visit!

        That’s an indelible image you’ve left me with CG…

      • CigarGod
        June 24, 2015, 6:54 pm

        I cant help myself…i hate the magic windmills.

    • catalan
      June 22, 2015, 2:21 pm

      “You regularly bash Americans in your comments and yet you think that a generalization about the “average Israeli male” is over the line? – ” tree
      I consider myself an American, basically. So yes, I think it is ok to say it like it is about a group I belong to. I think we are spoiled, arrogant, and self righteous.
      It’s a whole other matter to make big generalizations about groups of which I am, broadly speaking, not a member. Thus, it behooves me to not express opinions about how angry black males appear to be in Baltimore or St Louis. Perhaps if my ancestors were brought here as slaves to build this paradise, I would be very angry too.
      Apples and oranges, tree. Look through my comments and you won’t see anything negative about blacks, Arabs, or Latinos.
      That’s why this Israeli woman should stay out of it and not express moronic and bigoted quotes about a black president.

      • tree
        June 22, 2015, 2:46 pm

        If I recall correctly, I think Marnie was at one point an Israeli. If you excuse your generalizations about Americans because you are one, why do you disapprove of Marnie doing something very similar to what you do? That’s the double standard of yours, catalan. Its faux moralizing on your part- its OK if you do it, not OK if Marnie does it.

        And of course you don’t even address the fact that you falsely claimed that comments such as yours never passed moderation. Care to apologize for that, and for blasting Marnie for doing the same thing that you have done here numerous times?

      • catalan
        June 22, 2015, 3:03 pm

        “That’s the double standard of yours, catalan” tree
        I don’t claim to be perfect. See, for many years I had to be a servant in the great empire so yes, on occasion I am bitter. I had to tutor spoiled brats in math, paint the houses of rich people, wash dishes, make sandwiches, and saw how people without money lived. It ain’t pretty.
        I am not proud of my bitterness, and assumed that people have enough sense of humor to take it with a grain of salt. The thing is, I am not saying it with meanness and I don’t have anyone specific in mind. Marnie, on the other hand, addressed me with meanness. Also, I have never seen any humor in her posts, so I assumed she is serious. Maybe I was wrong.
        Also, Americans run a huge empire, have a gigantic army, and attract the brightest people in the world. So they can take a little joke about their brilliance.

      • Elisabeth
        June 22, 2015, 4:09 pm

        I don’t believe that you are from Bulgaria. You are an American, born and bred. You are playing a role here.

      • Marnie
        June 22, 2015, 5:36 pm

        You’re from Bulgaria and live in America and call yourself an American. I was born and raised in America, live somewhere in Israel but do not see myself as Israeli and never will. I have been here long enough and seen enough to generalize about Israeli men, right or wrong (mostly right) but make no claim to be an expert or speak for anyone but little ol’ me.

      • Mooser
        June 22, 2015, 5:55 pm

        “Perhaps if my ancestors were brought here as slaves to build this paradise, I would be very angry too.”

        We were slaves once, in the land of Egypt, so it should be very easy for us to empathize and completely understand the anger.

        “I don’t believe that you are from Bulgaria.”

        His English is too good, I say, Which clearly indicates that he is foreign. Whereas others are instructed in their native language American people aren’t.
        And although he may have studied with an expert dialectician and grammarian, I can tell that he was born Bulgarian! Not only Bulgarian, but of royal blood,
        he is a prince!

      • oldgeezer
        June 22, 2015, 6:06 pm

        @catalan

        “I had to tutor spoiled brats in math, paint the houses of rich people, wash dishes, make sandwiches, and saw how people without money lived. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/recent-comments#sthash.BtUgQ5tI.dpuf

        Geeze, I had no idea your life has been such a struggle and so rough up until now. Those of us who were lucky enough to be born in the west can’t really appreciate the struggle to get establishead and ahead, to have to work hard to obtain the things we want.

        hahahaha… No… I’m joking. Where’s hophmi? I’m sure he will get humour of that since he’s an afficiendo.

        Seriously catalan? Are you expecting to create a groundswell for how rough you’ve had in life? Your valiant struggle?

        Try living like the Palestinians are forced to live for a few months.

        In the meantime you sound like someone with an overinflated ego and a commensurate sense of entitlement.

      • catalan
        June 22, 2015, 6:22 pm

        “Try living like the Palestinians are forced to live for a few months” Oldgeezer
        To be a Palestinian, especially in Gaza, would be one of the toughest things I can imagine. For all its flaws, Bulgaria is still a second-tier country. It means that it is nothing like Denmark or Canada, but you still got tolerable healthcare, decent education, etc.
        To be a Palestinian, or an African, especially an African woman, would be the hardest pick in the lottery of life. No question. With my personality I wouldn’t probably survive there long anyway. I would look at some Hamas or Fatah militia type the wrong way and would be dispatched shortly to the hereafter. Besides the fact that I am spoiled, I also have major authority issues and that would be the end of me.
        That’s why I am here. To exchange ideas on how to improve the lot of those who have it hard. Yelling at my lungs about evil this and evil won’t do any good though so I try to have a stimulating discussion. I have not succeeded in that endeavour, but so be it.

      • tree
        June 22, 2015, 6:26 pm

        I don’t claim to be perfect.

        No, you just claim to be appalled when someone else does exactly what you have done numerous times here, as if it is something that you would never do. And you have the gall to claim that if you made such a statement it wouldn’t clear moderation, when clearly your negative generalizations about Americans have cleared moderation repeatedly.

        You also seem to lack the ability to apologize for making false statements, and instead resort to a childish “she was mean to me” defense (especially galling, as well as clueless, since your own posts show considerable anger and meanness towards other commenters here). Pretty pathetic response. Maybe she was right about the anger, fear and inferiority complex?

        I’m sure as the self-described intellectual and physical superman that you are, you are able to take a little jab at your magnificence, right?

      • catalan
        June 22, 2015, 7:19 pm

        “I’m sure as the self-described intellectual and physical superman” tree
        You are mistaking me for Mooser. I am just a loyal and eager disciple.

      • Memphis
        June 22, 2015, 8:17 pm

        Mooser, there is not a shred of evidence that Hebrews/Jews were ever slaves in Egypt. The Pyramids were built 1000 years before Hebrews existed. They have shown that the Pyramids were not built by slaves but was considered an honour to work on, and they were feed very well. There is not a shred of evidence that exodus never happened. And that is because there is no evidence that Jews were ever in Egypt.

      • Mooser
        June 22, 2015, 9:58 pm

        “Mooser, there is not a shred of evidence that Hebrews/Jews were ever slaves in Egypt. “

        I’m just here for the charoset. Love that stuff, and I don’t know of any other excuse to eat it.

      • Ellen
        June 23, 2015, 12:19 am

        Catalan, oh poor you:

        waiting every day for a month or two at the German or Belgian or American embassy can do that one’s psyche. Or waiting for Polish people to come vacationing so they can sell you car parts for a socialist car.

        In the scheme of things that you even had access to an embassy or were in the position to peddle car parts anywhere in the world puts you into the global elite.

        Get a life.

      • MHughes976
        June 23, 2015, 5:09 am

        I agree that there is no evidence outside the Bible for Hebrew slavery in Egypt but there is an ethical principle ‘not to oppress a stranger’ in Exodus, explained by empathy with strangers in Egypt. The historical bit may be questioned but the ethical bit, an early formulation of a kind of Golden Rule, deserves to be remembered.

      • Shmuel
        June 23, 2015, 5:29 am

        I agree that there is no evidence outside the Bible for Hebrew slavery in Egypt but there is an ethical principle ‘not to oppress a stranger’ in Exodus, explained by empathy with strangers in Egypt.

        It is more than that. It is part of a founding myth of liberation/redemption (or revolution, if you prefer). The concept of freedom is meaningless without the concept of subjugation. As such the Egyptian slavery-liberation story is a paradigm for all redemption (say the Rabbis, correctly). The historical kernel of the myth (to the extent that there is any) is very much beside the point.

      • catporn
        June 23, 2015, 6:46 am

        Do we really need a rule or piece of ancient text to remind us ‘not to oppress a stranger’? or even a familiar? How very very sad.

      • MHughes976
        June 23, 2015, 9:33 am

        Moral principles in on way go without saying but in another way do gain currency from memorable statements. There has been so much oppression of strangers in human history that finding an ancient prohibition of it seems quite welcome. I thought that there was some interest in the way that Exodus makes empathy – you were strangers in Egypt and ‘know the heart of a stranger’ – the basis for its claim on the stranger’s behalf. I think that Shmuel was drawing attention to the way that claim goes on to be the basis for a wider conception of liberation and redemption.

      • Shmuel
        June 23, 2015, 10:04 am

        Do we really need a rule or piece of ancient text to remind us ‘not to oppress a stranger’? or even a familiar? How very very sad.

        Just before Passover this year (a calendar prompt to thought — also unnecessary for pure thought, but mighty helpful), I was reading a sermon on freedom by an early-20th-century anti-Zionist rabbi by the name of Ahron Shmuel Tamares. In his introduction to his published sermons, Tamares begs indulgence of those who would prefer pure reasoning without recourse to ancient stories and texts, but asserts both that it is his personal/professional mode of expression and that, in his experience, it can be very helpful in illustrating and driving home lofty (sometimes too-lofty) ideas and ideals.

        The sermon in question deals with the ultimate evil of human subjugation, justified and rationalised by “pure reason”–making it all the more insidious.

        If it were that simple (obvious without myths and stories and texts and sancta), it wouldn’t still need saying that empathy with the Other is a good thing.

      • just
        June 23, 2015, 10:12 am

        Thank you, Shmuel.

      • Mooser
        June 23, 2015, 10:32 am

        “The historical kernel of the myth (to the extent that there is any) is very much beside the point.”

        Plus, apples, walnuts and honey taste so good together. It doesn’t taste the same any other time of year.

        In fact, when I’m eating charoset I even forget to wonder if the mythical subjugation we were redeemed from is simply an excuse for the subjugation to Jewish leaders.

      • Shmuel
        June 23, 2015, 11:05 am

        In fact, when I’m eating charoset I even forget to wonder if the mythical subjugation we were redeemed from is simply an excuse for the subjugation to Jewish leaders.

        Yes, charoset has that effect. Tamares had it covered though (in a sermon cleverly delivered a week before Passover, when charoset levels in the blood are at their lowest). Using his personal/professional idiom, he says that’s precisely why the Exodus preceded the Sinaitic Revelation, to teach us that freedom comes before Torah and don”t let any self-appointed “religious” leaders tell you otherwise, ostensibly in the name of the Law itself.

      • just
        June 23, 2015, 11:08 am

        Charoset IS divine… when it’s done well.

        “I even forget to wonder if the mythical subjugation we were redeemed from is simply an excuse for the subjugation to Jewish leaders.”

        +1!

      • CigarGod
        June 23, 2015, 12:02 pm

        Okay, Can I touch your robe and get an autograph?

      • tree
        June 23, 2015, 11:54 am

        No one here would ever mistake you for Mooser. You are nothing like him and I suspect you have no concept of self-deprecating humor.

        No, I simply deferred to your own self-description of how wonderfully intelligent and how physically fit you are. Both could be true but neither have been shown here.

        As for getting by in Gaza or the West Bank, its much more likely that you would have been killed by the IDF, the ultimate authority figures with their own sense of superiority . That you couldn’t imagine that scenario spells your limited perspective. You still have some bit of your identity wrapped up with Israel, even though you don’t live there, and you claim not to care. That is why you get defensive and divert every time some criticism of Israel comes up. And that’s why you hang around here instead of some place that deals more with your claimed interests.

      • catalan
        June 23, 2015, 1:16 pm

        “And that’s why you hang around here instead of some place that deals more with your claimed interests. – ”
        Actually it’s to practice debating with people who are very certain of their position and have strong ideas about fixing the world. I am clearly pretty bad at it so that’s what I like to do. I figure, with some practice, I can improve.
        As to not being popular, who cares? Socrates and Julius Caesar, Cicero and Cato all were killed by the multitudes. (That was humor).

      • Mooser
        June 23, 2015, 1:47 pm

        “and don”t let any self-appointed “religious” leaders”

        My dear “Shmuel”, your statement has alarming (albeit unintended, I am sure, and I’ve been looking for a reason to use “albeit” ‘Albeit this number until about noon, after that, call me at the bar’ if used in a sentence) implications. In over two millennia of Judaism, we have not perfected a system of choosing our own leaders? Our religious, social and political leaders are just “self-appointed”? Oy Gevalt is that any way to run a railroad? And what about all this sectarian stuff. Everybody calls us “the Jews” but we are actually a number of separate, in some cases disparate religions. From that we should get a rock-solid tribal unity? It takes a worried man to sing a worried Psalm, and it wouldn’t surprise me a bit if the ancient writers have already covered this stuff.

      • Shmuel
        June 23, 2015, 1:59 pm

        My dear “Mooser”. Even Moses got his “Who the hell are you?” from Korah and his gang, teaching us that if they can’t make the earth swallow you when you challenge them (and even then — see Deuteronomy 13:1-6), they should be considered “officially” self-appointed.

      • Mooser
        June 23, 2015, 6:37 pm

        Shmuel, thanks. Got it. If non-earth-swallowed when challenged, you are good and considered vetted as a Jewish Leader. Even if earth-swallowed, there’s still an appeals process. Sounds good.

      • RoHa
        June 23, 2015, 8:14 pm

        ‘Our religious, social and political leaders are just “self-appointed”? ‘

        Pick any religious leaders you like, trace ’em back, and you’ll find that there was someone who appointed him/her/it/other/self as the first leader of that bunch.

        You can do it, too. Be completely autochthonous*. Start your own branch, with you as the sole member, and you can appoint yourself Archbishop, Chief Rabbi, Grand Lama, and Supreme Guru.
        And no-one can say you nay.

        (*And there’s a word to impress the girls. Most of them won’t know what it means, but they will go home with you to find out.)

      • CigarGod
        June 23, 2015, 10:23 pm

        Funny, how so many hear Gods voice. In real life…you!:d get meds and a 90 day observation for hearing voices.

      • catporn
        June 24, 2015, 3:47 am

        Shmuel, just before the flyover this year the church *erected a sign pleading “Love Thy Neighbor”, but it don’t make it so.
        Seems like any knowledge we might of garnered from maxims, morality tales, sermons, bibles, papal encyclicals and even pure reason, gets easily trampled when it has to compete with the darker sides of our nature, greed, power, self interest, but I take you and your rabbis point, no harm in repetition.

        *RoHa, another word with the power to allure?

        Hi just thanks for the welcome and hello to the rest of you crazy Jews.

      • Mooser
        June 24, 2015, 12:11 pm

        “There’s a word to impress the girls”

        “RoHa”, think it through. If I’m “completely autochthonous” what do I need a girl for?

        And BTW, “RoHa” this is a family blog. ‘Nuff said?

      • MHughes976
        June 24, 2015, 1:42 pm

        On autochthony: I don’t think you can attain or achieve it in order to found a city or a religion – you have to be ‘of the earth itself’ in the region where you live, ie (at very least) your earliest ancestors must not have been immigrants. The Arcadians and Canaanites were or were sort-of autochthonous, the Spartans and Israelites were immigrants with divine commission.

      • catalan
        June 24, 2015, 2:01 pm

        you have to be ‘of the earth itself’ in the region where you live, ie (at very least) your earliest ancestors must not have been immigrants. – MHughes
        My understanding is that most of us are predominantly ancestors of the dubiously called Homo Sapiens. This aggressive species took over most of the earth in about 10 thousand years by annihilating the other hominids who resided already in Europe and Asia. It seems they also interbred with the local hominids but this is glossed over as racists use these facts to justify stupidities. Clearly, we are all invaders and our history is one of moving and mixing.
        That’s why the modern jargon of indigenous people vs newcomers is a fantasy, having to do with the romantic myth of the noble savage.

      • Mooser
        June 24, 2015, 2:02 pm

        ” he says that’s precisely why the Exodus preceded the Sinaitic Revelation,”

        Although an exegesis and interpretation of the Sinaitic Revelation would be, to be adequate, beyond the capacities of this comment section, the practical result of this dispensation is relevant and should be noted; it’s why there are so many Jewish eye-ear-nose-and-throat doctors.

      • Mooser
        June 24, 2015, 2:10 pm

        “you have to be ‘of the earth itself’ in the region where you live”

        Evolution can be hard on the autochthonous. Pilldown Man, of course, died of an overdose. And Getdown Man hasn’t been seen after the disco craze petered out. Letdown Man is still going strong, unfortunately. I trace my ancestry to the laziest autochthonite known, Setdown Man.

      • lysias
        June 24, 2015, 2:26 pm

        The ancient Athenians also claimed to be autochthonous.

      • just
        June 24, 2015, 3:01 pm

        lol mooser!

        (well worth the scroll to pay tribute!) You’re in fine fettle today!

      • Mooser
        June 24, 2015, 3:53 pm

        “The ancient Athenians also claimed to be autochthonous.”

        Well, that’s fine for those ancient Athenians, but frankly, I couldn’t get along without a car.

      • MHughes976
        June 24, 2015, 5:22 pm

        Lysias rightly mentions the Athenians – rather cursory research takes me to M. Clark, Exploring Greek Myth, p. 88, where it is pointed out that like many ideological words ‘autochthonous’ could have different connotations: for the Arcadiana it meant primitive’, for the Athenians it meant ‘authentic’ – most Greek of all Greeks. Neither of them got into debt with the Germans, as I recall.
        Still, our ancestors in those times knew as well as we do that violent dispossession is a wicked act in normal circumstances and that a special divine or equivalent commission- as to Danaus, Perseus and the children of Heracles, resulting in the domination of Sparta – is needed to justify such a terrible thing.

      • RoHa
        June 24, 2015, 7:15 pm

        “I don’t think you can attain or achieve it in order to found a city or a religion – you have to be ‘of the earth itself’ in the region where you live ”

        I’m sure Mooser is pretty close to the earth at least some of the time.

        In respect of churches, it is the church itself that has to be native to the area, and if Mooser founds it where he is, it is native to that area. Since he is the only member, he is also the church, and thus he is –qua church – autochthonous.

        Of course, with a favourable wind and a bit of effort, Mooser could be autocephalous as well. That’ll double his chances on Saturday night.

      • Mooser
        June 25, 2015, 3:53 pm

        “I’m sure Mooser is pretty close to the earth at least some of the time.”

        Take care, “RoHa”, now that I’ve finished re-reading Shirer’s “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”, it’ll only be a little while till my lips recover from the strain of extended reading, and I can turn my attention to figuring out how I am being insulted. And if and when I do, you can expect snappy retorts in, oh, 2 to 4 weeks.

        Besides, did you read Taliped Decanus, like I suggested?

      • Mooser
        June 29, 2015, 4:00 pm

        “you have no concept of self-deprecating humor”

        Why should “catalan” deprecate himself. He’s an all-rightnik!

  4. ToivoS
    June 21, 2015, 3:08 pm

    Max Blumenthal and Joseph Dana documented this 6 years ago and people said they were lying

    In those days they had to go around the Streets of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv to find these quotes. Today all we have to do is to peruse statements from government officials and their immediate family to find them.

    Just a reminder for what Eric Alterman said in his opening paragraph reviewing Goliath that was entitled “I hate Israel handbook”:

    Israel is rarely wholly innocent in the stories Blumenthal tells. Its brutal military occupation of Palestinian land, now entering its forty-sixth year, has not only deeply damaged Israel’s democracy, but also desensitized its citizens to the daily humiliations it inflicts on the Palestinians. But Blumenthal proves a profoundly unreliable narrator. Alas, his case against the Jewish state is so carelessly constructed, it will likely alienate anyone but the most fanatical anti-Zionist extremists, and hence do nothing to advance the interests of the occupation’s victims.

    Sorry Eric you were quite wrong and Max and Joseph were right. I wonder how Eric’s career is going now — Is he still pushing this pep stuff.

    • diasp0ra
      June 21, 2015, 4:25 pm

      Does sugar coating reality and buying into the illusion of a “moral” or “democratic” Israel pre-occupation help advance my interest, as an occupied person?

      Funny how our interest only comes to mind in such situations. It only comes to mind when talking about BDS, because you know, they worry about me so much. Just like the welfare of Syrians only comes out for Zionists when comparing Assad to Israel.

      That’s all we are. Rhetorical tools to be discarded. If there was genuine care for Palestinians in Eric’s heart then he would be a “fanatical” anti-Zionist himself.

  5. RobertHenryEller
    June 21, 2015, 3:24 pm

    Zionists=Racist=Fascist.

    Surprised?

    • Giles
      June 21, 2015, 5:20 pm

      I go to admit, that is the type of thing tat could have easily come out of the mouth of a GOP presidential candidate

  6. amigo
    June 21, 2015, 3:28 pm

    Can you imagine what racist anti American /Goyim bigoted comments are made in private by these ungrateful self centered presumptuous incorrigibles.
    The same can be assumed of our resident apologists who walk a fine line on this site , thanks to the MW moderation policy.

    Thanks Hopknee/catalan/Ivri , et al for giving the readers a glimpse into the zionist soul.

    • Kay24
      June 21, 2015, 6:02 pm

      I have seen youtube videos of young kids spewing insults at Obama and making racist comments. They are a bunch of ungrateful creatures, who stretches out their hands to take all they can from us, but turns around and spits at us when it suits them. Obama has increased their aid, sent more weapons, and given into their demands, yet many of them, including their politicians have made insulting statements about him. Gods chosen eh?

  7. RobertHenryEller
    June 21, 2015, 3:31 pm

    No doubt Dylann Storm Roof is a fan of this Funny Girl.

  8. yonah fredman
    June 21, 2015, 3:46 pm

    Malcolm X spoke about the reason for keeping whites out of the civil rights movement.

    “It’s just like when you’ve got some coffee that’s too black, which means it’s too strong. What do you do? You integrate it with cream, you make it weak. But if you pour too much cream in it, you won’t even know you ever had coffee. It used to be hot, it becomes cool. It used to be strong, it becomes weak. It used to wake you up, now it puts you to sleep.”

    The fact that this quote of Malcolm’s exists, does this change the dynamic of the Suzan Mozes quote? Not really, because Malcolm is allowed to talk about color in a way that white people cannot.

    • justicewillprevail
      June 21, 2015, 6:25 pm

      But you still thought you’d bring it up in a double-faced attempt to excuse the racism that pours out of Israel. There is no comparison or similarity in circumstances, whatever your feeble attempts to pretend there is.

      Just look at that picture, btw, a whole subtext there.

      • hophmi
        June 22, 2015, 1:19 pm

        “Just look at that picture, btw, a whole subtext there.”

        Only the one you’re creating. Israelis have a blunt way of speaking, and they’re not schooled in the ways of American political correctness. So the more clueless ones might repeat stuff white Americans routinely say in private. There’s no subtext here, other than a lot of hypocrites in a country where some states fly a Confederate Army battle flag and where some whites gun down Black people in churches calling the Israelis racist because some lady retweeted an offensive joke.

      • eljay
        June 22, 2015, 1:37 pm

        || hophmi: … Israelis have a blunt way of speaking … There’s no subtext here … ||

        OK, so just to be completely clear: If someone who appears to despise a Jewish public figure makes a joke in comparably poor taste about him/her, that joke can be shrugged off as “blunt speaking” with no anti-Semitic subtext. Got it.

      • oldgeezer
        June 22, 2015, 2:51 pm

        @hophmi

        Ever the apologist.

        No one is saying Israel or Israelis are racist because of a retweet of an offensive joke. And let’s be honest about that retweet. It’s not a joke, it’s an insult. It may have been meant to generate a laugh but it was an insult. And yes some humour does come from insults or barbs for sure.

        Israel was created with the intent to be a state for an ethnicity. Prior to it’s creation the territory was ethnically cleansed under the force of arms used against civilians. Subsequent to it’s creation it’s armies continued to attack and force out civilians from territory outside of it’s borders in order to steal it from them. It is governed by racist leaders who openly make routine racist remarks and discuss a variety of crimes against humanity and war crimes as the best solution to it’s desires. It operates under a system of segregation and, even where laws are designed that all citizens are equal, it applies those laws in an unequal fashion so as to ensure maximum benefit to it’s Jewish citizens and minimal benefit to all others. This is shown through it’s education and civil operations. This government(s) enjoy widespread support. Of course that’s only the short list but you are aware of much more even if only because you are an apologist for the disgusting apparatus and operations.

        No one is calling Israel or Israelis racist because of a retweet.

      • just
        June 22, 2015, 3:01 pm

        +1, oldgeezer.

      • justicewillprevail
        June 22, 2015, 5:03 pm

        You’re (predictably) looking the wrong way, hop. The subtext is in the photo, but never mind, it’s lost on you. There is no subtext to Israeli racism, it’s out there in the open. Funny how racists always claim that ‘everybody’ speaks like them indoors. And it wasn’t long before an apologist came along to throw in the Charleston massacre as some kind of false equivalence. Israeli squatters and the IDF don’t even make the news when they gun down defenceless Palestinians. Perhaps you should try joining the dots between an embedded racism and the violence Israel metes out to the native population.

      • RoHa
        June 23, 2015, 1:00 am

        +1, oldgeezer.

        (With the proviso that “it’s” be replaced with “its” where it stands in the possessive.)

      • oldgeezer
        June 23, 2015, 2:00 am

        @RoHa

        Thanks! But I don’t do grammer (joke,.. grammar) or spelling either before 5 cups or tea or after 1 g&t. In between it’s fair game :)

      • oldgeezer
        June 23, 2015, 2:30 am

        @Roha

        5 points if you correctly determine whether the inappropriate ‘or’ in place of ‘of’ was due to tea or g&t

      • RoHa
        June 23, 2015, 3:31 am

        “Or” in place of “of” is usually a simple typo, probably resulting from DTs or a cat demanding attention.

    • ritzl
      June 21, 2015, 6:27 pm

      White people can talk about color all we want, yonah. This wasn’t talking. It was a racist insult, and perhaps more importantly, intended as a racist insult.

      There’s also a huge difference between a valid, if slightly arguable, observation on movement dynamics (akin to MLK’s “white moderate” observation, and echoing even now in today’s civil rights movements) and a racist “joke” by one of Israel’s political elite.

      There’s just zero common context here, imho.

      • yonah fredman
        June 21, 2015, 7:11 pm

        ritzl- Indeed there is not much common between the two. But it is the most famous quote dealing with blackness and coffee and any learned discussion of a quote involving blackness and coffee should include the quote.

      • Mooser
        June 22, 2015, 11:35 am

        ” any learned discussion of a quote involving blackness and coffee should include the quote.”

        Oh, let’s have another bit of pilpul,
        Let’s have another piece of pie!

      • tree
        June 22, 2015, 2:05 pm

        But it is the most famous quote dealing with blackness and coffee and any learned discussion of a quote involving blackness and coffee should include the quote.

        Actually, its not the most famous quote dealing with blackness and coffee. The most famous quote dealing with blackness and coffee is this one from Airplane:

        “Young Boy with Coffee: Excuse me, I happened to be passing, and I thought you might like some coffee.
        Little Girl: Oh, that’s very nice of you, thank you.
        [takes coffee]
        Little Girl: Oh, won’t you sit down?
        Young Boy with Coffee: Cream?
        Little Girl: No, thank you, I take it black, like my men.”

        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080339/quotes

        Just sayin’ cuz I know how important it is to mention this in a “learned discussion” of racist jokes tweeted by an Israeli bigot.

      • Mooser
        June 22, 2015, 7:16 pm

        “tree”, seems certain you are right. Many more people would, indubitably, (and when I say “indubitably” I mean to say indubitably, if you know what I mean), recognize that quote from Airplane! than the Malcom X quote. Just being learned.

    • diasp0ra
      June 21, 2015, 6:46 pm

      First of all, there is a WORLD of difference. I don’t understand how you can’t see the difference.

      These statements do not exist in a vacuum, there is history behind them, and a vicious one at that.

      Second of all, the statement made here was obviously a racist jab at Obama. Not surprising from Zionists.

      And damn straight Malcolm can talk about it more than Mozes can, why wouldn’t it be like that? One is actively engaged in it and trying to achieve social justice, after being punished and enslaved for centuries. For Malcolm talking about color is the difference between life and death, it is a topic that has caused mass lynchings and deaths and untold torture and suffering.

      For Mozes? It was a cheap populist jab with 0 of the context or history behind someone talking constructively about color or race.

      • can of worms
        June 22, 2015, 6:46 am

        @Fredman: “But it is the most famous quote dealing with blackness and coffee and any learned discussion of a quote involving blackness and coffee should include the quote.”

        You play your Zionist perversity to a beat. Living in your segregationist country and citing as your moral authorities Dr. King and now Malcolm X. Go on telling us about “blackness and coffee,” Yonah. You make jokes you never got, and next thing you’re “including a quote/dealing with blackness and coffee” from the Message to the Grassroots, which you never got either, because you’ve never seen it as worthy of your time to get it.

        We must beware and reject those elements who sweeten, dilute, and cool our unity, who disrupt our coalition of interests that is formed around anti-imperialism. Those who give us the Novocain so we can suffer peacefully. Those who create Uncle Toms. The speech is available on you tube, and it’s brimming with rhetorical purity and economic vision.

    • echinococcus
      June 21, 2015, 6:56 pm

      Mr Fredman,

      Thank you for reminding us that Malcom’s very apropriate observation also applies to Palestine solidarity and the almost-Zionist tribals that surround and sometimes head it.

      • aiman
        June 22, 2015, 4:41 am

        “Thank you for reminding us that Malcom’s very apropriate observation also applies to Palestine solidarity and the almost-Zionist tribals that surround and sometimes head it.”

        Nailed it, echinococcus.

    • Marnie
      June 22, 2015, 12:26 am

      Seriously? Malcolm X’s quote is from the 1950s or 1960s, in the context of the civil rights movement, murders of civil rights leaders, lynchings, church bombings, threats to his life and the life of his family, etc.

      Ms Mozes made her remark this week in the context of the privileged Jewess living in occupied land.

      It’s hysterical that the coffee quote resonates with you. How about some other quotes, much more powerful and meaningful TODAY!

      “We declare our right on this earth…to be a human being, to be respected as a human being, to be given the rights of a human being in this society, on this earth, in this day, which we intend to bring into existence by any means necessary.”

      ——————————————————————————–

      “Our objective is complete freedom, justice and equality by any means necessary.”

      ——————————————————————————–

      “The day that the black man takes an uncompromising step and realizes that he’s within his rights, when his own freedom is being jeopardized, to use any means necessary to bring about his freedom or put a halt to that injustice, I don’t think he’ll be by himself.”
      _____________________________________________________________________

      “Concerning nonviolence, it is criminal to teach a man not to defend himself when he is the constant victim of brutal attacks.”— Malcolm X
      __________________________________________________________________________

      “A race of people is like an individual man; until it uses its own talent, takes pride in its own history, expresses its own culture, affirms its own selfhood, it can never fulfill itself.” — Malcolm

      _____________________________________________________________________________

      “If you’re not ready to die for it, put the word ‘freedom’ out of your vocabulary.” — Malcolm X

      _____________________________________________________________________________

      “I for one believe that if you give people a thorough understanding of what confronts them and the basic causes that produce it, they’ll create their own program, and when the people create a program, you get action.” — Malcolm X
      .

      • Sibiriak
        June 22, 2015, 4:44 am

        “A race of people is like an individual man…” — Malcolm

        ———————

        Except a “race of people” is a social construct; an individual person is not?

        RoHa?

      • RoHa
        June 22, 2015, 8:56 am

        “A race of people is like an individual man; until it uses its own talent, takes pride in its own history, expresses its own culture, affirms its own selfhood, it can never fulfill itself.”

        A man can have a talent (e.g. perfect pitch), but what would it mean to say a race had a talent? A race is not the sort of thing that can tune a piano, even if every member of that race has perfect pitch.

        Does he mean that each individual man takes pride in his own personal history, just as the group takes pride in the history of the group? I suppose “its own history” makes some sort of sense, but who does the taking pride? The group as a whole? Pride is a feeling; individual human beings are the sort of things that can have feelings, but groups are not. Does he mean that each member takes pride (and why?) in the history of the group? But if the individual man is like the group, he is supposed to be taking pride in his/her own personal history as well as the history of the group, whereas the group is only taking pride in the history of the group.

        I’ll let you try to untangle that for yourself.

        Tying down the notion of “selfhood” is not the easiest of tasks. ( know this because I have researched the subject in detail, and written a book about it.) I have no idea what the selfhood of a race could be, let alone affirming it. Again, a group does not seem to be the sort of thing that can have the sort of selfhood that an individual has.

        At best, Malcolm is using vague metaphors an attempt to express an inchoate idea. More likely, though, it is just empty rhetoric.

      • can of worms
        June 22, 2015, 10:13 am

        @RoHa: “At best, Malcolm is using vague metaphors an attempt to express an inchoate idea. More likely, though, it is just empty rhetoric.”

        Empty rhetoric? RoHa, did you read the speech? You can cut corners, but–why? Why would you want to do yourself that violence?

        In the line that you take such objection to he was actually reading out loud from a prepared document (“Basic Aims and Objectives of the Organization of Afro-American Unity.”)

        In what you call the “empty rhetoric”, he was struggling with the question of why “our African brothers have …gained recognition and respect as human beings much faster than you and I [in the United States].” And the answer he was articulating was, “A man doesn’t know how to act until he realizes what he’s acting against. And you don’t realize what you’re acting against until you realize what they did to you. Too many of you don’t know what they did to you.” –Because you internalized their definitions.

        That must be where “empty rhetoric” comes in?

        Malcolm X is one of the best teachers we have.

      • RoHa
        June 23, 2015, 3:41 am

        “did you read the speech?”

        No. I didn’t know where it came from. But even if the rest of the speech makes perfect sense, and presents a tight, clear, argument, that bit can still be, as I said, either an attempt to express an idea through vague metaphors, or just a bit of empty rhetoric.

        Can you make sense of the idea of the selfhood of a race? If so, please explicate it for me. I really would like to know what it means.

      • Mooser
        June 23, 2015, 10:38 am

        “Can you make sense of the idea of the selfhood of a race? If so, please explicate it for me.”

        Oh, easily, at least personally, if not for anybody else. People have been telling me I am a typical Jew since I was a kid. So there you go.

    • Mooser
      June 22, 2015, 11:40 am

      Yonah, the reference is to a popular song “Black Coffee” (Burke/Webster 1948)

      The incomparable Sarah Vaughn

      Also recorded by Ella Fitzgerald, Ray Charles, and many, many others.

      • justicewillprevail
        June 22, 2015, 12:22 pm

        I love how Yonah earnestly informs us what a ‘learned discussion’ about coffee and colour would entail (as if it was in any way relevant, other than as a feint), whilst at the same time demonstrating he has learned nothing, except to google some random quote he reckons he can use to mitigate standard issue israeli racism. For a ‘learned discussion’ Yon, you would have to educate yourself a bit first.

      • gamal
        June 22, 2015, 12:26 pm

        And of course the famous Druze coffee (hyper strong and any colour you want as long as its black) made with a mihbaj, wherein a white demonstrates that he has rhythm, interesting scene they may even get their own casino’s soon.

        https://youtu.be/VlavwDfwlAM

    • Mooser
      June 22, 2015, 1:49 pm

      “Not really, because Malcolm is allowed to talk about color in a way that white people cannot.”

      Cause up til then, white people didn’t talk about color, and made no distinctions between people on the basis of color, until that stupid Malcom X (with his Afro-American privilege?) talked about color?

      • Mooser
        June 22, 2015, 6:06 pm

        “Not really, because Malcolm is allowed to talk about color in a way that white people cannot.”

        It’s just amazing, isn’t it, how there was a slave trade in Africans, an American Empire built on slave labor, a Civil War, and then more than 100 years of Jim Crow, and all without white people talking about color or race. Til that big-mouth Malcom X came along, trying to get African-Americans upset by talking about race and color…

  9. LanceThruster
    June 21, 2015, 3:49 pm

    Zionist coffee = Unbearably bitter and aggressive, even though taken from another’s cup.

    • aiman
      June 22, 2015, 4:43 am

      Zionist coffee=unfair, no fair trade or no trade at all, just stolen coffee with a “chosen” sticker.

  10. a blah chick
    June 21, 2015, 4:16 pm

    What’s really funny is that I doubt Ms Mozes has ever said more than “coffee, black” to a Muslim.

  11. Amar
    June 21, 2015, 6:38 pm

    Not first time she’s courted controversy.

    http://forward.com/news/3511/top-diplomats-in-dust-up-over-madonna/

  12. Brown-Eyed Girl
    June 21, 2015, 6:40 pm

    I am not surprised at all. I can only wonder what kind of ‘jokes’ Netanyahu tells about President Obama. I have always believed that some if not much of the contempt he shows for Obama is racial, same as for Oren. I think this is giving us a glimpse of some of that racism that exists in Israeli high quarters for our President. Hum,,, I just wonder how this will play in the White House, Obama regularly sucks up to the Zionist lobby, now he knows how they really feel about him: Black and Weak.

    • RobertHenryEller
      June 21, 2015, 9:30 pm

      Now? Do you think this “joke” comes as a surprise to President Obama? He knows exactly how the Zionists, in both Israel and in the US, talk about him.

  13. MHughes976
    June 21, 2015, 6:48 pm

    The racist sneer is indeed hateful. Yet it is true that Obama has shown some weakness and that Israel has been the main beneficiary. His international authority has never fully recovered from his early retreat over the settlement freeze. I think he probably found himself in an impossible bind with Clinton threatening to resign. Maybe no one could have done better within the coils and knots of Western politics. One moral is that if you show any weakness to people who are already inclined to despise you they will despise you some more.

    • ritzl
      June 21, 2015, 9:43 pm

      Words to live by:

      “One moral is that if you show any weakness to people who are already inclined to despise you they will despise you some more.”

  14. JLewisDickerson
    June 21, 2015, 7:10 pm

    RE: “‘Obama coffee’ is black and weak — racist tweet from wife of Israel’s vice premier”

    ALSO SEE:
    O’Sullivan displays Confederate flag he took with him when he invaded Lebanon as IDF soldierhttps://twitter.com/JuliaCarmel_/status/612516251835850753
    • Israeli redneck Arieh O’Sullivan gets his Confederate stripes – http://www.jta.org/2012/02/22/news-opinion/united-states/israeli-redneck-arieh-osullivan-gets-his-confederate-stripes

  15. Les
    June 21, 2015, 8:02 pm

    It is no secret that Jews of European origin dominate Israel’s political rulership. Does anyone know what percentage such Jews constitute of Israel’s entire population?

    • a blah chick
      June 21, 2015, 8:47 pm

      I thought I saw a statistic once that they were around %40 but that might be out of date.

    • tod77
      June 22, 2015, 6:13 am

      If I understand correctly, the Israeli cbs responsible for statistics only collects information about the origin of a person’s parents (so many today are simply categorized as Israeli). Since the 90s the rate of marriage between jews of European descent and those of African-Asian descent has been over 30%, so the statistics would be complicated anyway. (Judy Moses herself is married to Silvan Shalom, the interior minister, who was born in Tunisia)

  16. aiman
    June 22, 2015, 4:50 am

    That’s what Obama gets for bending over backwards to appease the Zionists. If people try too hard they come across as overeager and are going to be stepped all over. Perhaps Obama can take a lesson from this, the vile racism notwithstanding, and stop acting like the fawning romantic who was impressed with the terroristic idea and formation of the State of Israel: “The notion of pioneers who set out not only to safeguard a nation, but to remake the world . . . and those values, in many ways, came to be my own values.” No wonder, keep swallowing the tripe and getting vomited upon.

  17. piotr
    June 22, 2015, 8:01 am

    This dispels one meme: Zionists lack sense of humor. Some people have a personality that makes it easy to find something funny, some not. The majority of Jewish Israelis claim that they are happy and probably lough easily, many at the joke of Judy Moses.

    One thing is clear: Right wing Zionists, a large majority of Jews in Israel and probably a minority in USA, hate Obama a lot, and this is definitely a wedge issue. And the chief reason is that their worldview divides the world into “the hated ones”, “the friends”, and few “neutrals”. And it takes very little to make right wing Zionists barking and foaming (or inventing distasteful jokes if they have more sunny disposition). My favorite example is that one Israeli soccer player considered accepting Polish citizenship to qualify for Polish national team (his mother was born in Poland and he played for a premier league Polish team). His former Israeli coach condemned him in a public letter as national traitor, newspapers made it a big story, the young man got a ton of hateful communications, he dropped the idea and there was a jubilation.

    And it is not like Poles were lately blowing up some cafes or buses. For some reasons they are the European nation that Israeli hate most, which does not mean that you cannot find articles in, say, Jerusalem Post, devoted to the cultivation of hatred against, say, Norwegians or the Dutch (always beware of the Dutch!).

    =====

    Part of it is the provincialism that was bemoaned by David Rothkopf. A lot of folks are racists, xenophobic and so on, but upper classes and urbane people are supposed to express it sparingly and with a modicum of taste. But in a small community, after ostracizing all differently thinking people, there are much to few people who may spread this modicum of taste, and perchance, a modicum of common sense. But part of it is the right wing concept of championing the common man, the real people, those without taste, common sense and so on (most political movements with wide following champion common people, but needless to say, in different ways).

    • hophmi
      June 22, 2015, 1:15 pm

      “This dispels one meme: Zionists lack sense of humor”

      Yes Piotr, one woman tweeting a racist joke means Zionists lack a sense of humor. I mean, you can make grand conclusions about an entire country of people because one lady tweeted out something stupid. I mean, gee, I wonder if any of you would ever generalize like this about Palestinians. I mean, way more than one Palestinian has tweeted out antisemitic pro-terrorist nonsense or support for ISIS, so they must ALL support both, right?

      • piotr
        June 22, 2015, 4:47 pm

        I stand corrected. A supposition that many Zionist have a sense of humor is definitely rash. I found many more example of anger than of humor. But I admit that I have a strong observation bias. For example, I did not found anything funny in Arutz Sheva or ynetnews, while regularly there are funny items at +972 (and less frequently, here). But in the former sites I am only making an occasional spot-check of new and comments.

  18. CigarGod
    June 22, 2015, 8:21 am

    Yesterday in my little western town, a young boy named Youngberg, rode a bronc named Obama, in our rodeo.

  19. rosross
    June 22, 2015, 8:56 am

    This does not surprise me. On visits to Israel I was shocked at the blatant racism toward Palestinians in particular and non-Jews and blacks in general. Zionism is to Judaism what the KKK was to Christianity.

    • MRW
      June 22, 2015, 7:32 pm

      Good one!

    • imagine65
      June 25, 2015, 2:01 pm

      I haven’t traveled to Israel, but I have heard that there are these blatant expressions of racism from much of the population. I have heard these kinds of discourse from many of Israel’s supporters. This was also exposed

  20. gosmoboleet
    June 22, 2015, 8:59 am

    ““You know, when Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld, and Larry the Cable Guy say you have a stick up your [butt], you don’t have to wait for the X-rays to come back.”**

    **Bill Maher

    http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/hugh_jardohn/Big%20Bird%20dilemma.jpg

  21. ivri
    June 22, 2015, 9:18 am

    This is just what it is: a joke. Why see it as offensive? Or racist – it contains nothing defamatory about blacks? – Just used the visual fact that Obama is black. Indeed, you need to be racist not to see it that way. I bet Obama is laughing at it

    • CigarGod
      June 22, 2015, 9:38 am

      Hey, Ivri,
      What do you call Jewish coffee?

      • Mooser
        June 22, 2015, 7:24 pm

        “What do you call Jewish coffee?”

        Oh you can always tell Jewish coffee, it’s wholly ground.

      • CigarGod
        June 22, 2015, 9:14 pm

        Ha!
        Ivri was pretending he wasn’t home when I knocked.

      • Mooser
        June 23, 2015, 1:52 pm

        “Ivri was pretending he wasn’t home when I knocked.”

        Oh, “ivri” is home, all right, he just never turns the lights on.

      • just
        June 23, 2015, 2:07 pm

        lolol, CigarGod & mooser!

    • eljay
      June 22, 2015, 10:10 am

      || ivri: This is just what it is: a joke. Why see it as offensive? Or racist – it contains nothing defamatory about blacks? – Just used the visual fact that Obama is black. Indeed, you need to be racist not to see it that way. … ||

      So, just to be clear: Any joke about a Jewish person that…
      – contains nothing defamatory about Jewish people in general; but
      – uses the visual fact that the person is Jewish,
      …is inoffensive and you would need to be a racist to see it as anything other than a joke, yes?

    • diasp0ra
      June 22, 2015, 11:21 am

      Ahh, the usual “If you have a problem with this racist statement it’s because you think about race too much/are racist” schtick.

      Not surprised you don’t see anything wrong with it though.

  22. Joseph R. Davis
    June 22, 2015, 9:39 am

    Ah, yes. The “only democracy in the Middle East.” G-d in Heaven, what a joke. A nation of schnorrers, with their hands out to Uncle Sam at every turn. But the Israelis, under the leadership of Bibi Mileikowsky, are bearing “the white man’s burden” of civilizing the Palestinians. Never mind that Holocaust survivors in Israel live in poverty. Never mind that the Ashkenazim treat black Jews like dirt. Never mind that a great number of poor Israeli children have to rely on charity for meals. And never mind that Bibi and the Zionists fully intend to drag the US of A into a war with Iran. The least that the Zionists could do to show their gratitude to Uncle Sam, would be to change their national anthem to “Onward Christian Soldiers.”

  23. Atlantaiconoclast
    June 22, 2015, 10:11 am

    I think the bigger issue is the meme that Obama favors Muslims. Its so devoid of any factual basis that it boggles the mind. What exactly has he done to demonstrate fealty to Islam? Not attacking Iran? Trying to make peace with Iran? Not intervening more than he has in Syria? Not kissing Israel’s butt whenever it flouts international law? I just don’t get it. And I am no fan of Obama.

  24. can of worms
    June 22, 2015, 11:40 am

    In the 1950’s, Israelis called Holocaust survivors ‘weak, white’ ‘Jewish Soap’.
    ‘Weak black coffee’, with its plantation-slave overtones, is probably an unconscious repetition of that.

    • a blah chick
      June 22, 2015, 12:27 pm

      I’ve heard so many stories about how that first generation of Israeli Jews denigrated the Holocaust survivors. I suspect that that was the real reason Elie Weisel left Israrel and not because he wanted to live in a more “cosmopolitan” country.

    • hophmi
      June 22, 2015, 1:13 pm

      “In the 1950’s, Israelis called Holocaust survivors ‘weak, white’ ‘Jewish Soap’.
      ‘Weak black coffee’, with its plantation-slave overtones, is probably an unconscious repetition of that.”

      Oh yeah, that must be it. Or she just repeated some dumb joke she saw on Twitter from someone in the United States. So which Israelis called Holocaust survivors “Jewish soap?” Was it all of them? Some of them? A few of them? One of them?

      • can of worms
        June 22, 2015, 1:39 pm

        To be accurate: Israelis (“sabras”) used to call Shoa survivors “Sabonim”.

        Sabonim — Look it up, it’s been well recorded in Israeli memoirs, or if you prefer, ask an Israeli, you do know some Israelis don’t you?

        But I got it now: “weak black coffee” resonates with “weak white soap”.

  25. hophmi
    June 22, 2015, 1:11 pm

    Let’s now listen to people from a country where a KKK member just murdered nine Black people in a church tell us how racist the Israelis are because some clueless lady with a history of saying stupid things made a racist joke on twitter about President Obama that you could hear any day of the week in conservative circles in the United States.

    • James North
      June 22, 2015, 1:20 pm

      A “clueless lady” who is a national media figure in Israel, with 74,000 followers on Twitter, and who is married to the second highest elected official in the nation.

    • John O
      June 22, 2015, 1:30 pm

      Two points:

      This is the first mention I’ve heard that Dylann Roof, the accused, is/was a member of the KKK. Can you provide a source for your statement?

      In any civilised country, a TV presenter who made a remark like that of Mozes would be fired so fast the closing door wouldn’t have got near the arse passing through it.

    • justicewillprevail
      June 23, 2015, 1:56 am

      Israel, particularly its government-backed squatter movement and the IDF, outshine the KKK in every department of cult-like prejudice and deadly violence. Your distasteful point in trying to exploit a horrendous massacre is what? Israel institutionalises what other nations recoil from?
      Nothing is too offensive for the zionist whitewash squad.

    • Mooser
      June 24, 2015, 8:09 pm

      For a good time, go to Hophmi’s archive and word-search “clue” and “clueless”.

    • SmartRat
      June 29, 2015, 11:38 pm

      In the last year, 137 Palestinian children were murdered by Israelis. In the same time 2 Israeli children were murdered.

      Seems to be a disparity there of some sort, but of COURSE, it has absolutely nothing to do with bigotry…

      Because, after all, Israel doesn’t target civilians randomly, only the Palestinians do that, according to Israel – and you can believe them!

      http://www.rememberthesechildren.org/remember2014.html

      • Annie Robbins
        June 30, 2015, 12:10 am

        SR, your link claims no palestinian children were killed during the month of aug 2014. around 500 children were slaughtered last summer between July 8 and August 27. not 137 Palestinian children “in the last year”.

      • SmartRat
        June 30, 2015, 12:49 am

        Annnie Robbins: – I did not make the claim that no Palestinian children were killed during the month of August 2013. I believe you are responding to the wrong person.

        Every death is recorded now on both sides.

      • Annie Robbins
        June 30, 2015, 1:09 am

        i’m sorry for any confusion, i didn’t mean to imply you made a claim that no children were killed during the month of august 2014. that was what your link said. in fact, it’s called the “remember these children 2014 memorial” and it clearly stated “no palestinian deaths reported” for the month of august. it also says “Last updated July 25, 2014” so i’m not sure how every death could be recorded on both sides for the year of 2014.

        edit: it just looks like it’s incomplete. and it’s a sensitive topic. i put your link back, but they should fix it.

  26. just
    June 22, 2015, 1:36 pm

    No surprise:

    “Leader of group cited in ‘Dylann Roof manifesto’ donated to top Republicans

    The leader of a rightwing group that Dylann Roof allegedly credits with helping to radicalise him against black people before the Charleston church massacre has donated tens of thousands of dollars to Republicans such as presidential candidates Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Rick Santorum.

    Earl Holt has given $65,000 to Republican campaign funds in recent years while inflammatory remarks – including that black people were “the laziest, stupidest and most criminally-inclined race in the history of the world” – were posted online in his name.

    After being approached by the Guardian on Sunday, Cruz’s presidential campaign said it would be returning all money the senator had received from Holt.

    Holt, 62, is the president of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CofCC), a Missouri-based activist organisation cited by the author of a manifesto-style text that was posted on a website registered in Roof’s name along with photographs of the gunman. The FBI said on Saturday it was investigating the website. …”

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/21/dylann-roof-manifesto-charlston-shootings-republicans

    • just
      June 22, 2015, 2:09 pm

      (I apologize for placing the above here. I meant it for another thread. Oh well.)

      What will Mozes tweet about this? :

      “Hundreds of Ethiopian Israelis were clashing with police in central Tel Aviv on Monday evening during a demonstration against what protesters say are the police’s racist attitudes toward their community, as well as against a recent decision to close a criminal investigation into a police officer who manhandled an Ethiopian soldier.

      The demonstrators gathered on Monday afternoon by the Azrieli Towers in Tel Aviv and blocked Kaplan Street, a main thoroughfare. One of them lay down in the juncture of Kaplan Street and Menachem Begin Road, a main intersection, and, when he refused to vacate the site, was arrested and taken in for questioning by police.

      The police warned protesters against disturbing the public order.

      The protesters waved flags against racism, upon which slogans included “Violent police should be locked up,” and chanted phrases like, “We’ve had enough, we’re a new generation.” One of the organizers of the protest, Desla Takla, said into a microphone that he expects many more protesters to arrive in the evening. “Guys, be patient. Loads of people are on their way here,” he said. “We are going to make history again. We are praying for better days for our community.”

      “We are not enthusiasts of protests, but we are unwilling to remain silent. The attorney general closed the case against the policeman, and we will continue protesting until that case is opened,” Takla said.” …

      http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/.premium-1.662472

      Ruh- roh… update:

      “Violent clashes erupted between police and protesters at an Ethiopian Israeli protest in Tel Aviv on Monday.

      Police arrested 15 protesters so far, and main roads were blocked.”…

  27. Memphis
    June 22, 2015, 3:53 pm

    If I gave an apology like when I was a kid, my mother would have been even more furious. Take some ownership. I guess it’s hard to admit to being racist.

  28. Kay24
    June 23, 2015, 7:10 am

    May have been posted before, but it seems she has had a history of making anti Palestinian comments, even directed towards children.

    “Ms. Shalom Nir-Mozes has a history of racist remarks on social media. In 2012 during an Israeli attack on Gaza, she said, “It’s time even for the passive residents of Gaza to suffer the way the residents of the south are suffering.”
    That is, she advocated a war crime, making non-combatants “suffer.”

    http://www.juancole.com/2015/06/innocent-palestinians-punished.html#comment-331796

    • eljay
      June 23, 2015, 7:33 am

      || Kay24: … That is, she advocated a war crime, making non-combatants “suffer.” ||

      What’s this? She didn’t advocate Israel:
      – ending its decades-long and on-going occupation of Palestine;
      – withdrawing to within its / Partition borders;
      – accepting responsibility and accountability for its past and on-going (war) crimes;
      – honouring its obligations under international law; and
      – entering into sincere negotiations for a just and mutually-beneficial peace?!

      Oh, that’s right: She’s a hateful and immoral Zio-supremacist and, like all Zio-supremacists, what she wants is Jewish supremacism in/and a supremacist “Jewish State” comprising as much of Palestine as possible…and “peace”.

      • Kay24
        June 23, 2015, 10:04 am

        She sounds like she is one of those detestable squatter settlers. The arrogance, hatred for non Jews, and the disregard/intolerance for the lives of helpless civilians is simply disgusting.

      • CigarGod
        June 23, 2015, 10:08 am

        “Squatter Settler.”
        I like that. We don’t like squatters around this part of the west.

    • CigarGod
      June 23, 2015, 8:15 am

      A parrot is a parrot. I guess her tea parties are as filled with chattering inanities as everyone elses. What a hell.

    • tree
      June 23, 2015, 12:08 pm

      It’s time even for the passive residents of Gaza to suffer the way the residents of the south are suffering.

      She’s also completely clueless. She has no concept that the people in Gaza suffer so much more than those “residents of the south” even when they aren’t being bombarded by Israel. And all at the behest of Israel, its blockade and its routine aggression.

    • imagine65
      June 25, 2015, 2:05 pm

      It seems that this type of racism is more typical than I thought. The work of David Sheen and Max Blumenthal has brought that to light for me and the writers of this blog. Let’s hope that the BDS movement grows to confront Israelis about this problem.

  29. just
    June 23, 2015, 2:36 pm

    “The stupid, racist Israeli tweet heard around the world at the worst time possible

    A bad joke comparing the U.S. president to ‘black and weak’ coffee was far from the Interior Minister’s wife’s first social media faux pas – but it was by far, her worst.

    The list of international media outlets reporting on the tasteless joke calling President Obama black and weak, which the wife of Israeli Interior Minister and Vice Prime Minister Silvan Shalom famously tweeted, deleted, and then apologized for, is seemingly endless: CNN, Washington Post, Sky News, Guardian, Daily Mail, Slate the Independent … and that’s only English language publications.

    Frankly, it would be more efficient to just note the media that didn’t feel it necessary to broadcast the fact that socialite Judy Shalom-Nir-Mozes, media heiress, TV and radio show host, lifestyle guru, philanthropist, and staple of the Israeli social media world with tens of thousands of Facebook and Twitter followers, made the faux pas. (One exception stood out: those who criticize the New York Times for bashing Israel at every opportunity should take note that the Gray Lady resisted the temptation and did not cover the social media kerfuffle.)

    Not that there’s ever a good time for posting racist jokes on social media, but the timing of Shalom-Nir-Mozes tweet was extraordinarily bad for several reasons.”…

    http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/routine-emergencies/.premium-1.662599

    Sommer doesn’t get it.

    Mozes meant it, and is not ‘sorry’.

  30. piotr
    June 24, 2015, 1:05 pm

    Some here tried to claim that Judy Nir-Mozes is “just one lady”, one cannot generalize etc.

    One fact is that she is a fat checkbook carrying member of financial elite, an opinion maker (in the radio) and not a mere “wife” (the money in the marriage is mostly from her). More importantly, every day I can cull even more drastic story from Israeli media, except for the more stereotypical nature of the targets of the racism. The other day I cited the story about a “cinematographer” who lost it when a flight attendant in Muslim scarf told him that his hand luggage has to be checked for the weight limit. It seems that he was hired for something like filming of a wedding, so not much of an opinion maker. But this is fresh stuff from today: the inter-faith comity in the halls of Knesset (Ynetnews):

    Deputy Interior Minister Yaron Mazuz (Likud) caused an uproar in the Knesset on Wednesday when told Arab MK Hanin Zoabi that the State of Israel was “doing you a favor in giving you ID cards” during a discussion on the Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law.

    ….

    You can check details at the source. A major brouhaha started, with Prime Minister more or less siding with Mazuz. I see a natural progression from “hateful, but sophisticated” to “hateful, and proud of it”.

    • a blah chick
      June 24, 2015, 2:12 pm

      Apparently Ms Mozes is unrependent, though perhaps more circumspect. Richard Silverstein had on his website today:

      “She tweeted that she was on a shopping spree at a store outside London just before returning to Israel. Settler PR flack, David HaIvri (né Jason David Axelrod), tweeted jokingly: “How’s the coffee in London?” To which she replied: “Really strong and black!” He replied: “Always the best.” You can see the entire exchange in this screenshot including Ha’Ivri’s nod-and-wink English tweet reaffirming their mutual hate for Obama.”

      He also had this about the guy she was tweeting to.

      “Her interlocutor is a settler who represents the most vicious and homicidal of the Hebron settlers, HaIvri. He lives in the settlement of Tapuach, where the Jewish serial killer Eden Natan Zada sought refuge before he slaughtered Palestinians on a bus. Earlier in his life HaIvri-Axelrod was a devout follower of Kach and Meir Kahane. He was arrested once for defiling a mosque and celebrating the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin.”

      Ah, the company we keep.

      The other thing I learned about Judy Mozes, from the tweeters I follow, concerns her previous husband, Amiram Nir, and his untimely death. Wikipedia sez:

      “Nir also played a role in the Iran-Contra Affair, but when the matter became public in late 1986 he was forbidden by the Israeli government from speaking to US authorities. He resigned from the Israeli government in March 1987, after public criticism of his role in the affair (and with his US contact Oliver North attempting to pin the blame on Nir) made him feel “neutralized of his authority”. In mid-1988 Nir spoke to Bob Woodward of the Washington Post, saying that he was considering how best to sell the Irangate story.

      “After leaving the government Nir opened a London office for an Israeli security firm, and arranged arms and oil contracts for Mexican buyers. On 30 November his chartered Cessna developed engine trouble and crashed, apparently killing him (some reports maintain Nir had been killed previously in Mexico City). In 1996, Chip Tatum (claiming to be an intelligence operative who had been involved in Iran-Contra meetings), said in a radio interview that he had been part of a team that shot down Nir’s aircraft from a helicopter; he expanded on these claims in 1997. After Nir’s death, “a systematic series of burglaries,” carried out by professionals who were never caught, targeted documents relating to the Iran-Contra Affair. One of the burglary targets was the home of Nir’s widow”

      Bet is was a black helicopter too.

      • just
        June 24, 2015, 3:27 pm

        WOW, abc.

        That’s some pretty ‘explosive’ stuff that you’ve shared.

  31. michelle
    June 26, 2015, 1:40 pm

    .
    sounds like something Goliath would say of David
    look how that turned out
    .
    G-d Bless
    .

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