Facing down hecklers in NY, Gideon Levy calls for equal rights for all in one state

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Last night the Ha’aretz columnist Gideon Levy gave a thrilling speech describing the brutal tyranny of the occupation, the inevitability of the one-state solution, and the necessity of boycott and sanctions to cause Israel to change its conduct at the Greenburgh Town Hall in Westchester County, N.Y.. Levy was the guest of Jewish Voice for Peace and Wespac. Suhail Khalilieh of the Applied Research Institute of Jerusalem also spoke on the settlements; I will get to his speech in the next day or so.

Levy’s speech was frequently disrupted by pro-Israel activists. The police refused to remove the hecklers on free-speech grounds, and the crowd was too left-wing to do much beyond singing We Shall Overcome and standing in front of the hecklers in an effort to maintain order. But the hecklers added value, I believe: Levy often used the hecklers against themselves. He addressed them at the very beginning of his speech, part 1 below– on my tape, you can briefly see Lauri Regan holding up a LEVY = HATE sign that Levy embraced — and many times after.

Below is part 2 of the speech, in which Levy states that the conflict is a simple one.  “When someone steals your car… you have to get back your stolen car… The Palestinian car was stolen by Israel and it must be returned, without any conditions.”

“They have no legal political or historical rights!” hecklers shout.

Levy says that Jewish Israelis have been able to live happily with occupation because of three deep-rooted beliefs/blindnesses: One, we are the chosen people, we can do anything we want, and international law doesn’t apply to us. Two, we the Jews are the biggest victim in history and the only victim in history. Golda Meir said after the  Holocaust Jews have the right to do whatever we want. And third, that Palestinians are not exactly human beings. “Killing Palestinians is not really a violation of human rights.”

Now even Israeli Jewish society is threatened by “one lynch after another, day after day.” Scenes that he had never thought even imaginable are occurring.

He says emphatically that Israel is practicing apartheid in its occupied territories:

If two peoples share one piece of land and one people gets all the rights in the world, and the other people don’t get any rights, this is apartheid. No other way to call it. No other way to call it!

A lot of heckling after that, at 10:00.

And for all you believers in the Israel lobby – Levy says that Israel appears to dictate foreign policy to the United States, against the U.S. “national interest.”

“The two state solution is in my view dead. The settlers won.” And there is only one alternative: the one-state solution. It’s not easy. I have no illusions. “But it is the only game that is in town… Therefore the struggle the discourse must be from now on I think a very simple one. Equal rights. That’s all.”

A lot of heckling over that. Great response by Levy at 15:14. “They will kill us! Holocaust! Holocaust.”

Below is part three, which follows another disruption. Levy says that only an international intervention will save Israel’s “moral profile.”

Life in Israel is too good, Israel is too strong, and brainwashing is much too efficient to expect a change from within the Israeli society.

No country in the world remains powerful when it lives only on its sword….

The world must bring pressure on Israel so that it will consider whether it “is worth it” to continue the criminal occupation.

At 5:40 you can see Levy’s great answer to a heckler who asks why Israel shouldn’t be compared to Syria. He says, Because the U.S. finances Israel and Israel wants to be considered part of the liberal, western world. At 9:20, my favorite interchange: Levy reminds the audience that Jews used terrorism to fight the British occupation. He speaks of the destruction of the south wing of the King David Hotel in 1946. A heckler says that was a British headquarters! Levy promptly explains that 61 of the 91 victims were civilians.

And here is the optimistic ending of the speech:

The apartheid system, Soviet Russia and the Berlin wall all fell within months, Levy said, and anyone who had predicted those events would have been judged insane.  “Many times in history things happen in the most unexpected way in the unexpected timing.” He then analogized Israel to a huge tree that mysteriously falls and is found to be “totally rotten on the inside.”

77 Responses

  1. Kathleen
    October 20, 2015, 1:47 pm

    What a remarkable and honorable human being Levy continues to be. “Equal rights. That’s all” folks.

    He describes the potential for an avalanche of justice. Not in bits and pieces. An avalanche.

    • truthurts
      October 20, 2015, 6:36 pm

      hey weiss
      how come you haven’t mentioned levy’s sunday appearance with roger waters up at the first congregational church at old lyme sponsored by the wonderful group “tree of life” which i unfortunately missed.
      traffic stopped to a standstill on 87 about 15 miles west of the tappan zee and was stop and go to the bridge, opened up then backed up on the conn turnpike so i turned around at cos cob and went home.

    • ziusudra
      October 20, 2015, 11:19 pm

      Greetings MW,
      Menschkeit gets magnified when a Jew stands against a Jew for wrong doing.
      I believe it was Tiberias, betw. 66/70AD, where the Romans started their horrors before they came to Jerusalem.
      The surviving Jews came to Jerusalem demanding to know why they didn’t send help; they ended up killing each other, Jew vs Jew.
      Mr Levy is showing up now before the killing of Jews starts from whom whoever.
      Mr Levy said it succintly to the governments of Israel: you are wrong.
      ziusudra
      PS Thanking MW for bringing on Mr Levy. Pls show more of his kind.

    • b.grand
      October 21, 2015, 4:59 pm

      Wonderful that Levy is speaking more in the US. Good on JVP for sponsoring him.

      He was great at the Israel Lobby conference. His now-famous speech was a bookend with Miko Peled, who preceded him.

      Miko Peled: How the Lobby enables Israeli policy—
      link to youtube.com

      Gideon Levy: Does unconditional support for Israel endanger Israeli voices?

  2. ckg
    October 20, 2015, 1:52 pm

    [Levy] says emphatically that Israel is practicing apartheid in its occupied territories…A lot of heckling after that
    Three days ago Ken Roth, executive director of HRW, linked to Levy’s latest Haaretz piece. Roth tweeted:

    Haaretz on today’s Israel: “Democracy for..Jews; discrimination for..Israeli Arabs; & apartheid for..Palestinians”
    link to bit.ly

    Roth’s twitter post got a few “hecklers” too.

  3. atime forpeace
    October 20, 2015, 1:57 pm

    Kudos to Gideon Levy, thanks Phil for going to these events and sharing them.
    “The only occupation in history where the occupier presents itself as the victim”

    This narrative has been enforced and controlled through the Jewish Zionist organizations influence over western nations political systems and their press. The network of think tanks and credentialed academics are used to give the lie of the narrative a body of misrepresented truths which they use to validate the fictional narrative which makes the occupier the victim.

    Israel has sown the wind and is reaping the whirlwind.
    Hosea chapter 8 verse 7
    link to biblegateway.com

    • ahadhaadam
      October 20, 2015, 4:54 pm

      It is certainly not the only occupation in history where the occupier presents itself as victim if you view it through the prism of colonialism. In fact, in just about every colonial conflict the colonizers saw themselves as victims of natives’ aggression, whether they were French, English or Dutch – Israel is no different in that sense. And indeed, from the perspective of a French colon in Algeria, he is indeed a victim, but that is if we ignore the greater context in which one side is the colonizer and the other the colonized.

      Israel’s achievement is its ability to propagate and control the narrative, way longer than any other group would have been able to, due to a confluence of reasons. But even that is bound to fall apart. After all, the world has experience with colonialism, which has been widely discredited, not to mention that all other colonial conflicts have long been resolved, so there is nothing for former colonies to lose by acknowledging their wrongdoings and no reason for them to support yet another colony in its war against the natives.

      • rosross
        January 30, 2016, 8:46 pm

        I think you misunderstand the kind of victim status Jewish Israelis believe and claim.

        Other colonisers have not seen themselves as the only victims and most had some concept of the fact that they had stolen someone else’s country where Israeli Jews do not, or will not.

  4. niass2
    October 20, 2015, 3:29 pm

    Kudos to Gideon Levy, wish he was my Uncle,but in some ways he is.My cousin the rabbi Ariel P was having his day before marriage event and got a text that the Klu Klux Klan was meeting nearby in maryland and was going to burn a cross. being the person he is he said no fing way, texted his friends, and led a anti Klan procession while his freinds and family were having the pre marriage event at his new wife’s home. Now I don’t talk to him a lot about isreal since i don’t talk to him a lot, but I should as there are rabbis who still know right from wrong out there, its just he is a piece of sand in an Ocean of Morans like those people heckling Gideon Levy. Those are the kinds of people who never grew up beyond what they learned in a sandbox when they were three years old. Now they have sand where the sun don’t shine and as such its hard to not be nasty all the time and talk weird with their contorted hate filled faces. My Cousin would be shocked that I think about Isreal all the time, every day, and I dont do that cause i have any fond feelings for isreal. Its weird being able to just say duhhh equal rights for all, duhh its pretty simple and then we can all go do something else, like basket Weaving for example, or one could go see twenty one grateful dead shows in 62 days. I opt for the latter. Hope Mr. Levy gets an audience with the Obama, so he can explain to him where yemen is.

    • Mooser
      October 20, 2015, 4:02 pm

      Hello “niass2”! I like hearing from you.

    • just
      October 20, 2015, 5:48 pm

      niass2~ keep it coming!

      I very much enjoy hearing from you, too.

      • Mooser
        October 20, 2015, 6:54 pm

        The no-paragraph-break style was a bit hard, at first, but once I dug in, I’m diggin’ it!

    • Zaghlul
      October 20, 2015, 11:27 pm

      Thanks, I enjoyed reading this post.

      • bintbiba
        October 21, 2015, 6:16 pm

        Me too… niass2 !

        I found it affecting and strangely charming .

  5. David Doppler
    October 20, 2015, 3:39 pm

    Let justice come down like water, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.

  6. Roger of the desert
    October 20, 2015, 4:00 pm

    It’s Israeli Jews like Levy and Jews like those who manage Mondoweiss that disprove the lie that criticism of Israel’s crimes & acts of injustice are anti-semitic. People who want to perpetuate that lie must blind themselves to the Jews who uphold the respected tradition of demanding justice for all. The Pro-Israel crowd has been reduced to angry screamers and wealthy fat-cats with no honest, thinking substance in between.

    • Mooser
      October 20, 2015, 7:14 pm

      Hmm, “Roger of the desert”. I might have guessed someplace wetter. Hello, and welcome.

    • inbound39
      October 20, 2015, 9:18 pm

      Levy demands respect. He has had the courage to stand in the face of a hostile people and declare them wrong. He has been spat at,jostled,punched and kicked and has recieved death threats. I have come to respect him greatly.

      In saying that, I do not always agree with his view. The Two State Solution is never dead when the UN can deem a Palestinian State a reality with a pen stroke. An International Force can monitor the borders. Settlers can become Palestinian Citizens subject to Palestinian Law or they can leave to Sovereign Israel. Too much pain and harm has happened for the two people to live in peace. It would lead to Civil War in no time flat. Zionists would make it so. The Two People need seperation as in Divorce. One State would also give Israel a lot of what it wanted in the first place. Israel should recieve no reward whatsoever for illegal actions. I doubt many world Governments would support One State for that precise reason.

  7. Mooser
    October 20, 2015, 4:07 pm

    “They have no legal political or historical rights!” hecklers shout.

    Ah, these must be Jews, Zionists, who refuse to assimilate into America. After all, they’ve done without any kind of legal or historical rights in America, why should the Palestinians get something these Zionists never needed?

  8. YoniFalic
    October 20, 2015, 4:20 pm

    “Levy’s speech was frequently disrupted by pro-Israel activists. The police refused to remove the hecklers on free-speech grounds, and the crowd was too leftwing to do much beyond singing We Shall Overcome and standing in front of the hecklers in an effort to maintain order.”

    I wonder whether the police would have likewise refused if pro-Palestinian demonstrators had heckled a right-wing racist Israeli journalist in the same venue.

    • socialconscience
      October 21, 2015, 3:24 am

      you don’t have to wonder YoniFalic

      young human rights activist Rae Abileah was promptly ejected from congress during BiBi’s shameful rant earlier this year after heckling with what can only be described as ‘the truth’

      different venue yes, which perhaps makes it even more shameful as America’s elected representatives applauded like nodding lapdogs

      • Emory Riddle
        October 21, 2015, 12:25 pm

        Hell. A few kids silently holding a” Feel the Bern 4 Palestine?” sign at a Sanders rally in Boston a few weeks ago were kicked out and threatened with arrest.

  9. Mooser
    October 20, 2015, 4:36 pm

    “He then analogized Israel to a huge tree that mysteriously falls and is found to be “totally rotten on the inside.”

    Mondo and others have certainly been making the resistograph readings available. When that big Yew collapses and wipes out the master bedroom, the homeowner’s may not pay off.

    Anyway, I’m sure those hecklers impressed very vividly on Mr. Levy just what he would be denied were he to be ejected from the community. Showed him!

  10. Kathleen
    October 20, 2015, 6:49 pm

    Hey and what is with the police being unwilling to put a break on the hecklers based on “free speech” Have never heard of this anywhere before. Something about when there is a planned event that anyone determined by the organizers of the event to be out of line…they can be removed. What gives on them not being removed?

    • Mooser
      October 20, 2015, 7:26 pm

      “Hey and what is with the police being unwilling to put a break on the hecklers based on “free speech” “

      If I am not mistaken (always, I admit, the first choice) that meeting took place in a town hall and was a public meeting. And everything that happened there is in the public domain, as far as news and reporting. That might be a good reason for putting up with a lot.

  11. truthurts
    October 20, 2015, 6:58 pm

    there is NO peaceful solution to this. go check your history books out;
    no country ever EVER just voluntarily gives up their power. NEVER!
    its got to be taken away by force of arms and israel is absolutely no exception.
    the repeated failure of america or the UN to reign in israel over the years has given them an air of invincability. look at the expression on satanyahu’s face at his last dictate at the UN; it was so arrogant i was just waiting to see him fold his arms and make that little head-bobbing motion ala mussolini
    with russia now in the mix all the players needed for WWlll are present
    all thats needed now is the striking of a match.

  12. just
    October 20, 2015, 7:01 pm

    I have an enormous amount of respect for this great Israeli man.

    He’s doing the hard work of educating the masses that politicians and the media should be doing, but haven’t and won’t.

    He stands head and shoulders above most. This man is a true contender for a Nobel, imho.

    You’re so lucky to have had the good luck to see/listen to him in this forum, Phil. Thanks for sharing it with us.

  13. JWalters
    October 20, 2015, 7:15 pm

    My profound gratitude to Gideon Levy for saying these things out loud and in public.

    “Jewish Israelis have been able to live happily with occupation because of three deeprooted beliefs/blindnesses:

    “One, we are the chosen people, we can do anything we want, and international law doesn’t apply to us.

    “Two, we the Jews are the biggest victim in history and the only victim in history.

    “And third, that Palestinians are not exactly human beings. ‘Killing Palestinians is not really a violation of human rights.'”

    And finally, the just solution to the problem is self-evident.

    “When someone steals your car… you have to get back your stolen car… The Palestinian car was stolen by Israel and it must be returned, without any conditions.”

    My profound thanks also to Jewish Voice for Peace for sponsoring his talk, and to Mondoweiss for reporting on it so thoroughly.

    I would add that realistically there is NO WAY a relatively small group of religious fanatics can lead the world’s non-secular superpower around by the nose. This is only possible because of Very Big Money men behind the scenes. And there is evidence that their ulterior motive is weapons sales, described here:
    link to mondoweiss.net

    • Sibiriak
      October 20, 2015, 10:10 pm

      JWalters: And finally, the just solution to the problem is self-evident.

      “When someone steals your car… you have to get back your stolen car… The Palestinian car was stolen by Israel and it must be returned, without any conditions.”

      —————–

      No, it’s not at all self-evident. A single democratic state does not return the “stolen car”–it forces the original owners to share the car with the thieves. And the thieves would still be in the driver’s seat. A two-state settlement doesn’t return the “stolen car” either.

      Unfortunately, there is no way to get the car back intact. There is no absolute moral “solution” to the historic crime of Palestinian land theft. Unless you believe that all the Zionist Jews that came to Palestine beginning in the 1880’s from Europe, North Africa, the Middle East etc– that all those Jews and multiple generations of descendants can be expelled from Palestine. But that simply is not possible, practically or legally.

      Certainly, though, the continuing land theft must be stopped. And there needs to be some form of imperfect–but achievable–settlement to the conflict. A settlement. Not a solution. And continued struggle for a better life, for everyone.

      • Leahj
        October 21, 2015, 10:17 am

        Oh, there you are Siberiak! I meant to thank you for your earlier comments on Crimea. Very interesting & informative! Thanks for posting it.

      • Sibiriak
        October 21, 2015, 12:23 pm

        Leahj, thank you for the kind words. And thanks for your many insightful posts!

      • JWalters
        October 21, 2015, 6:16 pm

        Sibiriak, I agree with all your points. I think Gideon Levy’s point was that a car theft is the self-evident model for the justice aspect of the Zionist land theft. But on the application of that model to the current mess, you put it better than I. For the reasons you point out, arriving at a just and practical outcome will not be a trivial task.

  14. Harry
    October 20, 2015, 9:16 pm

    Regarding the one-state solution, which Levy says (in this posting) is inevitable since the colonial settlers have clearly had their way, it is striking that American values are really not transplanted to Israel, which claims to share important values with the United States.

    Consider this nominally left-wing expression of American values, due to Woody Guthrie:

    “This land is your land, this land is my land,
    From California to the New York island,
    From the redwood forests to the Gulf Stream waters,
    This land was made for you and me…”

    Who in this one state, a fait accompli, is going to sing anything like that?

    And this nominally right-wing expression of American values:

    “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,
    And to the Republic for which it stands,
    One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

    Who in this one state, a fait accompli, is going to make a pledge anything like that?

    I’m American, and Jewish, grew up in and have lived in the Boston area for many years. I was singing this song and repeating this pledge in school more times than I can possibly remember. If there were American values that I was taught, these were leading examples.

    I don’t pretend that the United States really is everything that the song and pledge evoke. But each of them is an expression of what, in principle, we are supposed to be doing.

    What shared values? What shared principles?

  15. Taxi
    October 21, 2015, 12:44 am

    The ‘One State Solution’ sure is picking up momentum – especially now that the Greater Israel project has come to a complete and unexpected halt.

    Russia Destroys The Greater Israel Dream – link to platosguns.com

    • talknic
      October 21, 2015, 3:02 am

      And Netanyahu has completely lost the plot ! link to haaretz.com

      Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sparked public uproar when on Wednesday he claimed that the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, was the one who planted the idea of the extermination of European Jewry in Adolf Hitler’s mind. The Nazi ruler, Netanyahu said, had no intention of killing the Jews, but only to expel them.

      The man is surely insane!

      • Taxi
        October 21, 2015, 3:12 am

        Heh!

        Should we measure Netnyahu for a straight jacket or for his political coffin?

      • talknic
        October 21, 2015, 3:43 am

        BTW Someone should remind Netanyahu the Holocaust began BEFORE al-Husseini met Hitler!

      • YoniFalic
        October 21, 2015, 5:06 am

        Browning argues that the Holocaust began unofficially around the time of the Babi Yar Massacre.

        link to theguardian.com

        Hitler met with the Mufti around this time period, but Browning treats the meeting as incidental. Browning’s book is worth reading.

      • YoniFalic
        October 21, 2015, 5:13 am

        I took a Columbia course that discussed the Holocaust in depth.

        Here is the only known (oblique) reference that Hitler made to the Final Solution. It comes from Hitler’s Table Talk.

        Hitler made the comment at a dinner on January 23, 1942.

        link to drive.google.com

      • YoniFalic
        October 21, 2015, 5:27 am

        Genocide was part of Zionist ideology as far back as the 1880s.

        Max Nordau had a positive (or at least non-negative) view of genocide.

        Nordau seems to have approved of Thomas Dixon’s pro-KKK novels Leopard’s Spots and The Clansman on which Birth of a Nation was based.

        Nordau was the 2nd most important Zionist leader after Nordau.

        The historian Benzion Netanyahu, the late father of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, devoted a chapter to Nordau in his book “The Founding Fathers of Zionism.” In reference to Nordau’s political doctrine, Netanyahu observed that his moral conception elevated him to the heights of universality achieved by the prophets of Israel.

        read more: link to haaretz.com

      • Bumblebye
        October 21, 2015, 5:33 am

        It’s being reported on the bbc too.
        So, one day he warns Israeli Jews against vigilantism – and the next he comes up with this crapola!
        If it’s not meant as incitement, what is it? (Apart from the new, improved hasbara meme, that is.)

      • YoniFalic
        October 21, 2015, 5:35 am

        Did you see notice the KKK rider scene in the trailer above?

        Look at this trailer. Preminger understood exactly what he was creating with Exodus.

        link to youtube.com

        The trailer directly references the racist pro-Confederate novel, Gone with the Wind and indirectly references Birth of a Nation.

      • YoniFalic
        October 21, 2015, 5:54 am

        The critical role of the Mufti in the Holocaust is old Zionist propaganda put into coherent form by Joseph Schechtman back in 1965 in The Mufti and the Fuehrer.

        No serious historians take Schechtman’s claims seriously, but racist Jews trying to legitimize Zionist crimes repeat the nonsense interminably.

        This story should be treated as comparable to the ridiculous Zionist propaganda about the voluntary flight of Palestinians, who therefore lost all legitimate claim to Palestine in 1947-8.

      • bryan
        October 21, 2015, 5:57 am

        coverage also in the Guardian: link to theguardian.com

      • RoHa
        October 21, 2015, 6:54 am

        “The Nazi ruler, Netanyahu said, had no intention of killing the Jews, but only to expel them.”

        I thought that was one of the many, many, things that count as Holocaust denial.

        (Pssst, Taxi. It’s “strait jacket”. Nice article in Plato’s Guns.)

      • diasp0ra
        October 21, 2015, 7:08 am

        Good God,

        He has lost his marbles.

        Who is willing to bet that this comparison will start to come up more often online and in forums?

      • Kay24
        October 21, 2015, 7:11 am

        He is certainly acting unhinged, and is doing exactly what he is accusing the other side of – inciting more violence and anger. Israelis are getting what they voted for. Netanyahu has not brought them any peace with their neighbors, he has isolated Israel from the rest of the world, insulted the President of the United States, and has made them feel he is “protecting” them from the enemies HE keeps making for them. The similar policies of the Bush administration.
        Bush and Cheney exaggerated threats, and made gullible Americans feel only THEY could protect them. Netanyahu has encouraged and protected Jewish terrorists, and he is responsible for Israel eventual downfall. Right now he look like a out of control dictator taking his anger out of helpless civilians. Not a nice picture, but he does not give a damn, because he is stealing land and building illegal settlements for the chosen ones.

      • Taxi
        October 21, 2015, 7:16 am

        Bibi means that WW2 Germans were nice and civilized and that the real savage nazis are actually Palestinians.

        Different phrasing to justify zionist state violence: Palestinians are worse than genocidal nazis and that’s why they need to be genocided first.

      • Taxi
        October 21, 2015, 7:18 am

        Bibi’s rebounding from the Iran nuke deal hysteria. Cranking up the Palestinians as the flavor of the month Hitlers cuz he can’t pin that medal on Iran anymore.

      • eljay
        October 21, 2015, 7:29 am

        Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sparked public uproar when on Wednesday he claimed that the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, was the one who planted the idea of the extermination of European Jewry in Adolf Hitler’s mind. The Nazi ruler, Netanyahu said, had no intention of killing the Jews, but only to expel them.

        As far as I know, it used to be considered anti-Semitic to give Hitler the benefit of the doubt and suggest that he intended to do something other than exterminate Europe’s Jews.

        Congratulations, Bibi “King of all Jews” Netanyahu: You’ve made the grade.

      • Kay24
        October 21, 2015, 7:39 am

        Saab Erakat says it well:

        “Erekat: Palestinian fight against Nazis part of our history
        Saeb Erekat, chairman of the PLO executive committee, said on Wednesday: “On behalf of the thousands of Palestinians that fought alongside the Allied Troops in defense of international justice, the State of Palestine denounces these morally indefensible and inflammatory statements. Palestinian efforts against the Nazi regime are a deep-rooted part of our history.”
        It’s a sad say, he said, “when the leader of the Israeli government hates his neighbor so much so that he is willing to absolve the most notorious war criminal in history, Adolf Hitler, of the murder of 6 million Jews during the Holocaust. Mr. Netanyahu should stop using this human tragedy to score points for his political end.”

        read more: link to haaretz.com

        Shame on warmonger Netanyahu, he is trying to blame the holocaust on the Palestinians, by
        making such an inflammatory statement. ALL THIS TO JUSTIFY THE OCCUPATION, ILLEGAL SETTLEMENTS, AND THE ONGOING VIOLENCE AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS?
        He is such a scumbag to stoop so low. This man is a lunatic, and every time he makes a speech, whether at the UN or some hall in Israel, he spews lies, exaggerates, and looks insane.

        I hope the Israelis are proud of their leader.

      • just
        October 21, 2015, 7:44 am

        It’s so good to have you and your wit(s) around here again, Taxi.

      • Taxi
        October 21, 2015, 8:02 am

        Ah RoHa my old and dependable grammar/spelling teacher.

        Hope you and just and everybody else in the world (except for zionists) are having a jolly good time.

      • CigarGod
        October 21, 2015, 8:33 am

        So, which of our leaders who have been visiting and supporting bibi…will back him up? Come on Huckabee…I’m betting on you.

      • Boomer
        October 21, 2015, 8:59 am

        re: “Look at this trailer. Preminger understood exactly what he was creating with Exodus.”

        Fascinating. I lived in the Old South then, and at some level I think that I sensed a connection, but was too young to fully understand it.

      • YoniFalic
        October 21, 2015, 9:07 am

        Take a look at:

        link to en.wikipedia.org

        to understand the weed Netanyahu is smoking.

        Almost needless to say, most of the historians writing about Husseini have been Zionist, but even some of the Zionist historians have been unwilling to demonize Husseini with responsibility for the Holocaust or the deaths of Jewish refugees.

        I have read through the offers that Husseini made through intermediaries to the Zionists. They were more generous with respect to refugees than those made by any Western state.

        Moreover Jews fleeing Hitler rarely had any desire to go to Palestine. Leaders throughout the non-Western world did in fact offer refuge. I have found offers from Egyptian, Syrian (Baroudi), Lebanese (Arslan) leader. The Arabs made offers conditioned on willingness of Zionists to renounce the intent of transforming Palestine to a Jewish state.

        These offers seem reasonable to me. The Palestinians were the natives. According to Wilsonian theory, they had the right of democratic self-determination, which racist Zionists wanted to thwart. Palestinians had no obligation to give their country over to a 19th-century style racist genocidal European colonialist movement.

        The effort of the Zionist leadership to block any escape route that led anywhere other than Palestine seems much more responsible for Jewish deaths in the Holocaust than any discussion between Husseini and Hitler.

      • oldgeezer
        October 21, 2015, 11:07 am

        I’m not all that surprised that a vile racist such as Nutty could be a Hitler apologist even if only accidentally. I can’t wait for all the zios to attempt to justify this cretins words.

      • Mooser
        October 21, 2015, 11:35 am

        “to understand the weed Netanyahu is smoking.”

        Yoni, that is very close to a bud libel.

      • Keith
        October 21, 2015, 12:05 pm

        YONIFALIC- “The effort of the Zionist leadership to block any escape route that led anywhere other than Palestine seems much more responsible for Jewish deaths in the Holocaust than any discussion between Husseini and Hitler.”

        Indeed, the history of Zionism is full of examples of reprehensible behavior. The intent of Zionism was not to save individual Jews from persecution and death, but to save the Jewish collective as a tribal people. This is one reason that the Zionists actually welcomed the Nazi Nuremberg laws mandating separation. World Zionism made quite clear that Zionism’s goal was the creation of the Jewish state of Israel and was not a rescue effort. They also indicated that they were quite aware that Nazi Germany’s treatment of Jews was aiding their efforts.

        “From a purely instrumental standpoint, the Shoah proved the greatest asset ever acquired by Zionism, one sedulously cultivated over the years.” (p66, “Overcoming Zionism,” Joel Kovel)

      • Mooser
        October 23, 2015, 2:26 pm

        “Should we measure Netnyahu for a straight jacket”

        Weeeel, he might be wearing that already, I wouldn’t know, but if he ends up violently insane and not just bearded, he will have to wear a ‘strait-jacket’. or as Dickens said a ‘strait-waistcoat’

      • Mooser
        October 23, 2015, 2:40 pm

        “The intent of Zionism was not to save individual Jews from persecution and death, but to save the Jewish collective as a tribal people.”

        Yeah, Keith, you can file that one under “well, of course they are going to say that!” The Jewish angle was their big hook. So they will exploit it from every angle. Every evidence, I think, is that they did not think that way about us at all, and were very eager to exploit divisions among Jews. But if you want to give them more credit then I do, go right ahead.

      • Keith
        October 23, 2015, 6:22 pm

        MOOSER- “But if you want to give them more credit then I do, go right ahead.”

        Saying that the Zionists were more concerned with establishing a Jewish state versus saving Jewish lives is giving them too much credit? Saying that Zionists oppose assimilation is giving them more credit than you do? Well, if you say so.

  16. kbro
    October 21, 2015, 1:03 am

    levy was terrific in how he handled the hecklers–actually hoped there would be more as it provided an excellent foil for his remarks, and his rebuttals were all on the mark. guy got a lot of backbone to speak out as he does in the belly of his beast.

  17. Ossinev
    October 21, 2015, 7:00 am

    “‘So what should I do with them?’ He [Hitler] asked,” according to Netanyahu. “He [Husseini] said, ‘Burn them.’”

    Yup have just watched the video and listened to Nitay say these very words.

    So Hitler in fact according to this moron was unsure what to do about the Jews until he listened to the wise words of a trusted and respected Arab untermensch.

    Great stuff Bennie boy keep it coming and do try and fit in a cartoon of some kind in these appearances. They do so add to the flavour.

    • John O
      October 21, 2015, 8:12 am

      Sounds like he’s been reading too much David Irving.

  18. inbound39
    October 21, 2015, 8:28 am

    Somehow I get the feeling Netanyahu will not be happy until a coalition of the willing is provoked into flying over Israel and carpet bombing Israel into submission. He will scramble out of the rubble covered in debri and expound…”See…..I told you they hated the Jews!”

  19. Ramzi Jaber
    October 21, 2015, 10:00 am

    1S1P1V – 1 State, 1 Person, 1 Vote.

    It’s becoming crystal clear that that’s the only way.

    • just
      October 21, 2015, 9:53 pm

      Absolutely, Ramzi!!!

      fyi, for the lucky folks in Mass:

      ‘NENJP – New England Network for Justice in Palestine is hosting GIDEON LEVY AND SUHAIL KHALILIEH (BRANDEIS UNIVERSITY)

      Saturday, October 24, 2015
      6:00pm – 8:00pm
      BRANDEIS UNIVERSITY
      415 South Street Waltham, MA, 02453 United States”

      link to nenjp.org

      • just
        October 22, 2015, 6:41 am

        btw, don’t expect the US to lead with the “international intervention” needed to force a change:

        “Washington Plans Up to $1 Billion Hike in Military Aid to Israel

        Defense Minister Ya’alon to visit U.S. next week.

        Israeli and American teams are putting together a plan to increase annual U.S. military aid to Israel by as much as $1 billion, on top of the current $3.1 billion, a source close to the military aid process said Wednesday.”

        read more: link to haaretz.com

        Disgusting, of course. But we knew that.

  20. RepresentativePress
    October 22, 2015, 12:12 pm

    Is there any forum that they don’t intimidate into limiting free speech? “The Town Board is limiting use of meeting rooms at Town Hall after demonstrators on Monday decried a WESPAC forum on Israel and the Palestinian territories, accusing the town of allowing anti-Israel hate speech.” link to lohud.com

  21. NoMoreIsrael
    October 23, 2015, 12:29 am

    Unless Palestinians stab Gideon Levi or Amira Hass, what are the chances they will stab an innocent Israeli?

    Basically, zero.

    • Annie Robbins
      October 23, 2015, 1:32 pm

      no, it’s not zero and it’s not “basically” zero. it’s basically a handful or something. every person matters, especially our allies.

    • Annie Robbins
      October 23, 2015, 1:32 pm

      no, it’s not zero and it’s not “basically” zero. it’s basically a handful or something. every person matters, especially our allies. and don’t forget all the israelis who are palestinians

      • NoMoreIsrael
        October 24, 2015, 9:58 am

        I agree, Annie. It’s a wonder to me how decent Israelis manage to persist there given the utterly toxic environment. Is there simply a tacit agreement to stay off the subject of the Palestinians when talking to others? Ilan Pappe had to flee the country after death threats against his sons and I’m told Levy must travel with a body-guard in this “open society and light unto nations.”

        I wish someone would sponsor a discussion between Gideon Levy and Noam Chomsky. I have enormous admiration for both, though Noam seems all but the last holdout among informed progressives for a two-state solution to this catastrophe and Noam is MILITANT on the topic.

  22. NoMoreIsrael
    October 23, 2015, 12:35 am

    America should airlift Gideon Levi and Amira Hass to safety then use our air force to reduce all of Israel to Gaza-like conditions.

    • CigarGod
      October 23, 2015, 10:25 pm

      Ha!
      Or we could train and equip them to Israeli levels. Less blood up front. But on the back end…

  23. Pixel
    October 23, 2015, 5:17 am

    Phil, it was so great to hear you laugh!

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