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For the clearest distillation of Israeli political thinking there is no better place to start than at the top. Haaretz‘s Barak Ravid reports on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s message to a meeting of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee:

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Monday that although he doesn’t want a binational state, “at this time we need to control all of the territory for the foreseeable future.”

MKs who took part in the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee meeting — where the prime minister spoke — told Haaretz that Netanyahu turned to the politicians and said, hinting at the anniversary of Yitzhak Rabin’s assassination: “These days, there is talk about what would happen if this or that person would have remained. It’s irrelevant; there are movements here of religion and Islam that have nothing to do with us.” Netanyahu then turned to opposition MKs and said: “You think there is a magic wand here, but I disagree. I’m asked if we will forever live by the sword — yes.”

There you have it. Israel has every intention to control all of the territory from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea even with the acknowledgement that this means it will “forever live by the sword,” meaning endless conflict and bloodshed.

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  1. Krauss
    October 26, 2015, 10:13 am

    Segregation now, segregation forever!*

    *Reference to an obscure Alabama politician from the 1960s.

    • Kailashana
      October 27, 2015, 9:31 am

      A threat, a promise and a challenge.

      It didn’t work for that obscure Alabama politician. And it won’t work of Israel as long as Zionism is a euphemism for segregation, apartheid and ethnic cleansing.

    • truthurts
      October 28, 2015, 3:41 am

      Hundreds of U.K. Academics Announce Israel Boycott in Full-Page Guardian Ad

      this is the real “first shot” in the non-military war against israel! as the great military strategist sun tzsu once said ” the greatest way to win a war is not on the battlefield but its winning over the minds of the populace” let it be!
      and i’m quite confident america will go down the tubes with israel

  2. Fritz
    October 26, 2015, 10:58 am

    “with the sword”! Everybody should recognize the religious metaphor which combines fighting and building according to Nehemia 4:18: “Each builder worked with a sword strapped to his side, while a trumpeter remained beside me to sound an alarm.” That’s the national-religious worldview of the president of the state of Israel.

  3. Boomer
    October 26, 2015, 11:00 am

    Poor Israel is just the passive, innocent victim: “there are movements here of religion and Islam that have nothing to do with us.”

    Thanks for this report, though in truth it isn’t a surprise.

  4. diasp0ra
    October 26, 2015, 11:03 am

    Good.

    The two state solution is a sham anyway, and its forced establishment would only lead to the lessening of pressure on Israel and the delay of justice for Palestinians.

    This way the status quo will be Netanyahu’s undoing, when he can’t withdraw anymore (which I believe is already there, but the international community believe otherwise) the binational state model will be the only way to go.

    Israelis marched to this with their own two legs and arrogance.

    • Krauss
      October 26, 2015, 11:18 am

      Netanyahu could shout this from the rooftop of the Knesset but Israel’s “liberal” supporters would still find a way to “save” Israel.

      And of course, as they insist that The Real Israel wants something else, except that the Labor Likudniks were the ones who started the whole enterprise.

      • Boomer
        October 26, 2015, 2:56 pm

        It seems just the other day that the inescapable, unavoidable, always-pernicious Dennis (Israel’s Attorney) Ross, (recently a part of the Obama administration), was chastising Mr. Obama for not graciously accepting Mr. netanyahu’s “walk-back” of his unfortunate statement of truth during his election campaign.
        http://lobelog.com/dennis-ross-blame-america-first/

    • amigo
      October 26, 2015, 12:25 pm

      ” there are movements here of religion and Islam that have nothing to do with us – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/netanyahu-territory-foreseeable#sthash.hNNbh36o.dpuf“.

      But wait , is he saying that there is going to be religious strife throughout the ME and Israel would be safer with the Palestinians , whom he just claimed want to wipe out the Jews , living and working amongst them , whilst they cooperate with the 1.3 billion Muslims who are also intent of killing all the Jews.

      Does not look like a winning strategy to me.But hey , if Israel,s Jews wish to follow their leader right over a very steep cliff , then who am I to interfere in the affairs of a sovereign nation.Besides , I wouldn,t know where to start or finish, until they declare their borders .

  5. eljay
    October 26, 2015, 11:14 am

    … Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Monday that although he doesn’t want a binational state, “at this time we need to control all of the territory for the foreseeable future.”

    … Netanyahu then turned to opposition MKs and said: “You think there is a magic wand here, but I disagree. I’m asked if we will forever live by the sword — yes.”

    Attaboy, Bibi, you sadistic rapist, you. No matter what people say, you keep that b*tch chained in your basement and show her who’s boss. She’ll learn to respect a strong man like you.

    (For good measure, be sure to wear your Captain Israel outfit when you discipline her.)

    Zio-supremacists are truly hateful and immoral people…

  6. W.Jones
    October 26, 2015, 11:20 am

    “All your base are belong to us.”

  7. Kay24
    October 26, 2015, 11:34 am

    Every crime against the Palestinians, and the refusal to make peace, and give them their freedom, simply supports this narrative. The Israelis are not shy about it, they are brazenly taking over the lands, resources, and treating the Palestinians so viciously, they hope they will perish or become 3rd class citizens in the fatherland, and be victims of the front line settler terrorists, who will get away with all crimes against these pesky Arabs. The arrogance and superiority shown towards non Jews, by Israeli Jews, will continue, and apartheid policies will flourish.

  8. HarryLaw
    October 26, 2015, 12:18 pm

    Netanyahu said ..” I’m asked if we will forever live by the sword — yes.” I think most of his neighbors already know that, the ‘Arc of resistance’ certainly do. That arc is taking over the middle east, already cooperating with Russia are Syria,Hezbollah,Iran,Iraq and recently Jordan and Egypt. The US have their satraps in the GCC and Israel. Iran’s nuclear deal will mean billions more in trade opportunities and therefore more military and financial assistance to its allies in Syria and Lebanon. Forget nuclear weapons, this is what Netanyahu was really afraid of. The Israeli military say Hezbollah have an arsenal of 100,000 rockets, lets assume they only have 50,000 due to computer and cell phone technology Hezbollah can target anywhere in Israel, everyone has access to the same weapons technology as Israel and with the help of Iran, Israels enemies are churning those rockets out by the thousands. The so called iron dome, according to MIT weapons expert Theodore Postol has proven to eliminate only about 5% of rockets fired on Israel in the last Gaza massacre. Israel has about 10 Iron dome batteries [they are hoping to make that 15] each with 60 missiles per battery at 100,000 dollars per missile, even if all interceptors scored a hit, that would leave approx 49,000 rockets that would get through. Leaving the Tel Aviv metropolitan area and vital infrastructure a waste ground. Regardless of what Israel could do in retaliation. Unfortunately for Israel with the rise of technology Israels military strength cannot keep pace with its neighbors no matter how much money the US throws at Israel. The old saying comes to mind, those who live by the sword.

    • John O
      October 26, 2015, 12:33 pm

      One factor in the ending of apartheid was not unlike what you describe, Harry. South Africa had sophisticated weapons but, due to sanctions, was starting to be outpaced by neighbouring African nations. When they realised that their neighbours had, or would soon have, superior aircraft and helicopters, it was another strong sign that apartheid was doomed.

    • eljay
      October 26, 2015, 12:43 pm

      It seems as though Israel would prefer to destroy itself (why does Israel want to murder so many Jews?) and take others with it rather than respect the law, honour its obligations and negotiate a just and mutually-beneficial peace.

      • Mooser
        October 26, 2015, 1:01 pm

        “It seems as though Israel would prefer to destroy itself”

        Of course it would. That’s how a ‘bust-out’ scheme works.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      October 26, 2015, 1:15 pm

      What strikes me is that Zionist has reached a dead end.

      They have entirely run out of ideas. All they’ve got is violence, and yet more violence. If your enemies have weapons, get bigger ones. If pesky Palestinians are causing problems for precious Israeli Jews, put up walls. If the media say something you don’t like, bully them into submission. No original thinking, no creative solutions. Nothing. Just brute force.

      I suppose it was ever thus. Zionism, despite a few illusory moments to the contrary, has always been about the iron wall. But still, with so much changing all around them, it’s striking how Israel is standing still. I think Max Blumenthal is right – we are witnessing end stage Zionism, and things are going to get worse – probably much worse – before they start to get better.

      • inbound39
        October 26, 2015, 2:18 pm

        It is quite often explained by politicians of the day that when the Zionists lobbyed for the Partition Plan at the UN it was the most aggressive and dangerous lobbying ever experienced at the UN. Zionists even issued death threats to politicians who opposed the Partition Plan.

      • JWalters
        October 26, 2015, 7:18 pm

        inbound39, good point, today’s development is just more of the same. For readers unfamiliar with this episode of the story, here’s a link to some further info.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

      • Pretext
        October 27, 2015, 12:22 pm

        To be particular, what they had was violence and supreme control of the narrative in the US. By millimeters at a time, they’re losing control of the narrative.

        Thank you Benny for the continuous stream of gifts. Let the world hear you roar so that we may know your truth.

    • WH
      October 27, 2015, 5:48 am

      But Israel has a significant arms industry of its own, more so than any of its neighbours.

  9. Qualtrough
    October 26, 2015, 12:44 pm

    “He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.” An age-old observation that Zionists apparently think does not apply to them.

  10. Ossinev
    October 26, 2015, 1:52 pm

    This is great news. He is at last getting down to the Nitay Gritay. Pe-election “No Palestinian state on my watch” and now post election”we need to control all the territory for the foreseeable future”. ie we need to continue practising Apartheid for the foreseeable future.

    So a clear signal then to any and all of the mediators,Kerry,the Quartet etc – there is no point in wasting your time and money on so called peace initiatives or two state negotiations.

    Simples = BOYCOTT APARTHEID ISRAEL

  11. unverified__5ilf90kd
    October 26, 2015, 1:56 pm

    Israel is a destructive force. Their goal has been to destroy all the countries around them, using the USA as a proxy force in a misguided attempt to protect their security. They have almost succeeded but now Putin has stopped them at Syria. Similarly they are destroying their intimate neighbors, the people of Gaza and the West Bank.

  12. MaxNarr
    October 26, 2015, 5:27 pm

    Kudos for the honesty of Mr. Netanyahu.

  13. Bumblebye
    October 26, 2015, 6:22 pm

    Apparently Hebron is under attack tonite.

  14. just
    October 26, 2015, 6:42 pm

    OK.

    The ball’s in your court, Mr. Obama. Sanction Israel now! No more UN veto! No more money or military junk!

    One of Netanyahu’s disciples went *squelch* today (h/t Mooser)

    “MK: Hotovely is a ‘messianic nut’ who should be fired

    MK Yoel Hasson demanded that PM Netanyahu fire Deputy FM Tzipi Hotovely – for wishing to see an Israeli flag on the Temple Mount.

    MK Yoel Hasson (Zionist Camp) demanded Monday that Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu fire Deputy Foreign Minister Tzipi Hotovely “immediately, tonight,” over “messianic” comments she made that “could inflame the entire Middle East.”

    Hotovely’s “sin,” as far as Hasson is concerned, was a comment she made in an interview on the Knesset Channel earlier Monday, in which she said that her “dream is to see the Israeli flag fly atop the Temple Mount. This is the holiest site in the world for Jews.”

    Indeed, the Temple Mount is so called because it was where the first two Temples, the Divinely-mandated houses of worship, were located. In addition, the Temple Mount, liberated by Israel in the 1967 Six Day War, is under Israeli sovereignty – meaning that hoisting an Israeli flag there should not be a problem.

    “Surely it would not be right to see an ISIS or Hamas flag flying there. To me that would be shameful,” Hotovely said. “We have to fly our flag. This is our capital and our holiest place.”

    “Hotovely is the perfect role model for irresponsibility,” Hasson charged in response.

    “During a period when the overwhelming task should be to calm the situation and smooth over our relations with the Palestinians, she says things that could once again set off riots in Jerusalem, and especially on the Temple Mount. She should be fired immediately,” …”

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/202486#.Vi6rOH6rTIU

    • Mooser
      October 26, 2015, 6:54 pm

      “Indeed, the Temple Mount is so called because it was where the first two Temples, the Divinely-mandated houses of worship, were located. In addition, the Temple Mount, liberated by Israel in the 1967 Six Day War, is under Israeli sovereignty – meaning that hoisting an Israeli flag there should not be a problem.”

      Another sobering aspect of this scatophiliac tendency is demonstrated here. One finds a steaming pile to jump in, and they all wanna dance around in it and smear it on themselves.

    • JWalters
      October 26, 2015, 7:09 pm

      It seems to me no coincidence that fanatics are simultaneously being incited by the Israelis in Israel and by their accomplices in America. Conflict and chaos helps criminals maintain control.

    • Another Dave
      October 27, 2015, 8:45 am

      Placing a flag on the Temple Mount is her dream?

      Doesn’t that strike you as somewhat blasphemous?

      It’s certainly inciting/inflammatory. But it would be very wrong to blame her for her words/actions, blaming other people for their actions/words is the way to go; obviously.

    • eljay
      October 27, 2015, 9:22 am

      … “Surely it would not be right to see an ISIS or Hamas flag flying there. To me that would be shameful,” Hotovely said. …

      It would be shameful to see an ISIS or Hamas flag flying there. It would be equally shameful to see the Israeli flag – the flag of an oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and religion-supremacists state – flying there.

      … “We have to fly our flag. This is our capital …

      1. No you don’t.
      2. It’s not your capital – it’s the Free City of Jerusalem, currently under Israeli occupation.
      3. The flag of the Free City of Jerusalem is the flag that should be flown there.

      … and our holiest place.”

      Irrelevant to the state of Israel.

  15. Kay24
    October 26, 2015, 6:43 pm

    And from the world of bizarre zios, it seems the cameras installed by the Palestinians at Temple Mount, have been taken down. How can the zionists control the cameras, or doctor them if they install them there. After all, the zionist have resorted to so much crime against unarmed civilians, and those cameras might reveal the viciousness of the zionists. So the arrogant ones decided to take them down.

    “Israeli Police Remove Cameras Installed by Muslim Officials at Temple Mount
    Move comes days after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu promised U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry that cameras would be installed to help defuse tension at the site.
    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.682417

    • JWalters
      October 26, 2015, 7:05 pm

      Perhaps the Israelis want to install their cameras so they can control the camera feed.

    • Jon66
      October 26, 2015, 7:46 pm

      Kay,

      http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-kerry-mosque-camera-20151026-story.html

      It seems that the placement of the cameras was to have been mutually agreed with the feeds going both to the Waqf and the Israeli police. The waqf decided to move ahead on its own without consultation and only placed cameras at one entrance and none on the mount itself.

      The addition of cameras is controversial amongst Palestinians with many fearing what the video will be used for.

      • Kay24
        October 27, 2015, 3:47 pm

        No surprise they do not trust the cameras installed by Israel. Ideally both sides should have their own, anywhere they wish to place it.

      • Jon66
        October 27, 2015, 4:26 pm

        Kay,
        I agree 100%. Cameras setup with access for both sides and ideally web broadcast. That would end the he said/she said.

    • just
      October 26, 2015, 8:59 pm

      Holy Moly, Kay24! That was quick.

      David Grossman has a piece up at The Guardian that might be of interest to some. Click on the link to see the picture, Please!:

      “We have been given a frightful glimpse into Netanyahu’s mind

      Our PM has masterfully mixed and stirred the true dangers facing Israel with the echoes of Holocaust trauma, creating a net to ensnare the majority of Israelis

      In the space of just a week, twin failures by Binyamin Netanyahu coalesced into a new menace: the one, a near monstrous failure – the matter of the mufti and Hitler; the other, a small and nearly comic stumble, surveying the Gaza border region through binoculars that still had their lens caps on.

      At once it became tangible: anyone, in Israel or abroad, could see the manner in which Netanyahu gazes, when all is said and done – only internally, only within himself. Anyone who listened to his speech about Hitler and the mufti – in which he essentially acquitted Hitler of hatching the notion of the Final Solution and laid the blame at the feet of the Arab leader Haj Amin al-Husseini – could discern, in a way that was naked of obstruction, the things that Netanyahu sees within himself: the virtually mechanical apparatus that enables him to erase the facts in order to change – with one quick cartwheel of the consciousness – the condition of occupation and oppression to one of persecution and victimhood.

      Revealed, too, was the manner in which he casts his victimhood on reality, like one who casts a dense and hermetic net that offers no way out, no escape, not even to Netanyahu himself. But this time, more so than in the past, it has become clear to what extent we, the citizens of Israel, are trapped, flailing, in this net of his.

      For many years now, ever since he embarked on his journey to the prime minister’s office, he has masterfully mixed and stirred the true dangers facing Israel with the echoes of Holocaust trauma. Skilfully, with sharp flashes of rhetoric and overwhelming powers of persuasion, he has learned how to ensnare the majority of the Israeli population within a labyrinth constructed of echoes and the true facts of reality.

      Israel is a country of refugees from a terrible disaster, a country battered by trauma. The trauma of Jewish history, the trauma of the Holocaust, and the traumas of frequent war. To a certain extent most of us are helpless in the face of the prime minister’s sophisticated manipulations. For many of us, too, it is hard to rationally discern the true dangers of today from echoes of the past that roar still in our ears. We give ourselves easily to those fears, at times even eagerly. This is not a surprise: they are etched into our collective and individual DNA, and naturally they leap to the surface with the first shadow of threat and danger. With the blink of an eye, those echoes of the past drown out the threats of the present, and we find ourselves “there” – even if the facts of our lives point towards a reality that is far more complex.

      I cannot probe the depths of Netanyahu’s soul. I do not know if he does what he does as a cynical manipulation or out of faith and deep conviction. It is entirely possible that what started as a manipulation metamorphosed, for him, into truth. …

      … But the internal apparatus of Netanyahu’s mind and consciousness – bared before all with his statement about the mufti and Hitler – tells us, in the most simple and frightful way, that the policies of the state of Israel, its character and its future, are being forged and determined, to the utmost extent, within the narrow and hermetic confines of the man and his covered and sealed field glasses. That is where we are trapped; that is where our future is being determined; and that is where we are being led, eyes wide shut.”

      more @ http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/26/frightful-glimpse-binyamin-netanyahu-mind

      • just
        October 26, 2015, 9:13 pm

        “Israel Must Not Accept an Anti-democratic, Purely Jewish Jerusalem …

        … The prime minister’s latest idea is to set up a separation wall in the heart of Jerusalem. Benjamin Netanyahu’s aspiration, as reported Monday, is to rescind the residency rights of tens of thousands of Palestinians living in neighborhoods beyond the separation wall yet within the area annexed to Jerusalem.

        At first glance, Netanyahu would seem to deserve praise for recognizing the fact that Jerusalem can no longer pretend to be a unified city, and that it must be divided. This was meant to be a historic decision, full of far-reaching repercussions for the political process. However, Netanyahu has made clear again and again that he has no intention of adding any substance to his declared readiness for a two-state solution.

        The tactic of revoking Palestinian residency, if it happens at all as opposed to being just media spin, is meant to forge a reality that the right dreams about: a unified Jerusalem without Palestinian residents; annexed territory without an Arab population.

        The argument for the idea is that while residents of these neighborhoods enjoy all the rights of a resident, they do not fulfill their obligations. By “rights” it is probably meant the lack of municipal services, an unsupervised education system and frightful neglect of infrastructure in exchange for the right to receive payments from the National Insurance Institute, which have become the essence of Israeli generosity toward the state’s residents. By unfulfilled “obligations” Netanyahu means that many of the knife-wielding assailants have come from these neighborhoods, necessitating retaliatory action, lacking any legal basis, against a civilian population.

        But even if Netanyahu finds, or invents, the legal lacuna permitting him to revoke the collective residency rights of Palestinians in Jerusalem, the city will continue to be “stuck with” tens of thousands of Palestinians without rights. These residents won’t go anywhere. They will stay in their homes, or they will need work permits like residents of the territories.

        In the first years of the occupation and the annexation, Israel made an effort to convince East Jerusalem’s Palestinian residents to accept Israeli citizenship, and not just residency. The state understood back then that anyone seeking to annex East Jerusalem cannot give up on trying to win legitimacy from the world as well as the Palestinians. Legitimization would bring along with it, so the leadership hoped, international recognition of the city’s unification. Now, Netanyahu makes it clear, there is no such need.

        Jerusalem will not be a unified city, rather a purely Jewish city. Indeed, there will be Arabs in it, but they will lack basic human and civil rights. We must not agree to this dangerous and anti-democratic vision.”

        read more: http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.682465?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

      • Kay24
        October 26, 2015, 10:37 pm

        Nutty Yahoo has become a rabid and dangerous man, not only to his own country, but to the rest of the world. He comes across as a raving lunatic, when he flashes cartoon bombs, and that picture of his binos with the lens on is hilarious.

        It seems the writer recognizes that have an irrational leader, but until he goes (along with others like him) there is no hope for the Palestinians. The article is interesting, it clearly describe a demented mind. Israel is on a dangerous path, and unfortunately the Palestinians will suffer at the end.

      • kalithea
        October 27, 2015, 12:33 am

        Liberal Zionists everywhere, the real gatekeepers of Zionism, are pulling out their hair thanks to Netanyahu and that can only be a good thing.

        You know what I think of that Guardian piece – File 13. I hate to see a grown man cry over what really signals the demise of Zionism.

      • kalithea
        October 27, 2015, 2:21 am

        Here’s what I see: I see Liberal Zionists everywhere secretly wishing they could do to Netanyahu what the settler extremists at the time (now they’re the law of the land) did to Rabin to save their precious Zionism. But they can’t; they wouldn’t dare try to save Zionism that way; but you have to admit Zionism makes people do very, very bad things.

        What a pickle they’re in those lazy Zio- liberals; had they acted like real liberals on the Palestinian issue; they wouldn’t be in this predicament, but it’s well-deserved. Although, it’s temporary, because the Zionist right is growing and the Zionist Left has been quietly assimilating or entering the closet and keeping a low profile.

        Israel is a hot mess.

    • Mooser
      October 26, 2015, 9:37 pm

      “Israel is a country of refugees from a terrible disaster, a country battered by trauma. The trauma of Jewish history, the trauma of the Holocaust, and the traumas of frequent war.”

      Everything happens to us. The Holocaust is about the same as “the traumas of frequent war” made by Israel.

      “To a certain extent most of us are helpless”

      Awww, we so helpless. Grow up Dan.

      Oh well, now the boiler’s plated, start ‘er up.

    • inbound39
      October 27, 2015, 2:17 am

      Yes Kay….I had a quiet giggle at that one myself. They just finished telling Kerry they wanted cameras there….now they are taking them down. And Kerry and Obama and the Paid American Zio-weasels will say nothing. America looks more laughable.

      • Kay24
        October 27, 2015, 9:50 am

        Kerry used our tax payer money to go all the way there to put a tiny band-aid on a large wound that has been festering for decades.

        It seems minutes after he left the culprits took away the apparatus that belongs to the victims, and takes away any proof of the ongoing crimes.

        These are temporary measures that the US resorts to, just to enable the culprits to keep the occupation going and the illegal settlement being built. Haven’t we seen it all before?

  16. JWalters
    October 26, 2015, 6:58 pm

    “We need to control all of the territory for the foreseeable future”

    This is a direct continuation of Israel’s policy from its conception. The war profiteers established Israel with the bloody sword, and have maintained it profitably with more bloody swords, using Jewish fanatics as their sword-bearing pawns. (“War Profiteers and the Roots of the War on Terror”) There’s no way a small bunch of religious fanatics can drag the world’s superpower around by the nose.

    Some fanatics’ wet dream of “Greater Israel” goes to the Euphrates river (i.e. Baghdad). Harnessing this insanity would enable the Military-Industrial Complex to keep pushing for wars way beyond the West Bank, beyond the foreseeable future.

    All they need is to keep most of Congress on the payroll, by sharing a bit of the loot. And members of Congress sell themselves so amazingly cheap!

    • Rashers2
      October 27, 2015, 4:55 pm

      Mr. Mileikowsky’s told us nothing new here except, perhaps, that the pretence is well and truly past. As has been said by others on MW and elsewhere, Mileikowsky’s not the disease, merely a particularly virulent and unpleasant symptom of it. Such analysis doesn’t prevent strong personal feelings of antipathy and – yes – hatred against the man for the injustices and brutality he abets and sometimes instigates…
      The disease itself is, to use Montagu’s coinage, that “mischievous political creed”, the end of which will come; but not before many more shall have suffered and died; most directly, of course, the Palestinians in the OWB, East Jerusalem and Gaza.
      JWalters says, “Some fanatics’ wet dream of ‘Greater Israel’ goes to the Euphrates [R]iver (i.e. Baghdad). Harnessing this insanity would enable the Military-Industrial Complex to keep pushing for wars way beyond the West Bank, beyond the foreseeable future.” “Beyond the foreseeable future” may not be so long a time since it’s impossible to predict what will trigger the demise of Zionism and the Zionist state; or when. Perhaps it will be the very insanity JW describes, which will lead to fatal over-reach. Meanwhile, we must look on. Whilst supporting BDS, the cultural and diplomatic isolation of Israel, I’m dubious that isolation alone will force change for the better. Israel is not South Africa or Southern Rhodesia; isolation may reinforce the sense of righteous victimhood which suffuses the society and is such a prominent trait of Zio-pathy.

  17. ckg
    October 26, 2015, 9:20 pm

    I think Mr. Kirby and Mr. Toner are ‘dumb’ and ‘dumber’.

    QUESTION: Today the Prime Minister Netanyahu gave a speech on the occasion of the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin, and he said that he lives by the sword – he must live by the sword – and that Israel must control the territories for the foreseeable future. Does that mean the end of any possible process from your point of view, so the end of the two-state solution?

    MR KIRBY: I didn’t see the prime minister’s speech, so again, I’m not going to comment on —

    QUESTION: This is all over the place. That’s exactly what he said.

    MR KIRBY: Hang on a second. No, you’ve got to give me a chance to come back at you here.

    QUESTION: Okay, go ahead.

    MR KIRBY: So look, I haven’t seen his comments, and as I said last week, I’m not going to get into the business of parsing everybody’s statements, one way or the other.

    • RoHa
      October 26, 2015, 10:50 pm

      They just get better and better, don’t they?

    • kalithea
      October 27, 2015, 12:40 am

      Hee-hee-hee…they just can’t shut him up! First, Hitler’s off the hook and now this!

      Wacky Zionist ally; if only he weren’t serious? Oh, but he is, he is serious! The U.S. government can’t keep up making excuses for him.

    • inbound39
      October 27, 2015, 2:20 am

      Mr Kirby is beginning to look like a complete fool before the World. It is like he took a cupboard full of sedatives before he started work…muh! Whuh!

  18. talknic
    October 26, 2015, 9:55 pm

    “… foreseeable … “ https://talknic.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/psssssst-pssssst-the-lens-caps4.jpg

    see able

    to be able to see

  19. kalithea
    October 27, 2015, 1:34 am

    Don’t get your knickers in a bunch! We should all celebrate the fact that on this auspicious anniversary Netanyahu finally told the truth. This is a man who NEVER, ever speaks the truth, but he was splitting a gut all this time to let the not-so-secret secret out. It’s very hard to keep up deception; you have to maintain legions of hasbara and keep track of every lie and be talked down by the likes of Obama and Kerry. Uff! The truth is so much simpler!

    The settlers and the right in Israel growing by the minute are finally able to exhaaaale. They finally have a leader who speaks for them and speaks the truth for the growing majority in Israel.

    Liberal Zionists are either on red-alert damage control or crying profusely in their soup. They can’t keep up with the charade anymore! They can’t pretend the Emperor has a fine suit of clothes and cover reams of paper describing them! They can’t sell us on a non-existent peace process any more. Theirs was a sham gig to begin with. Liberal Zionists are out of a job! I’ve been praying for this day. All along they knew this would be the outcome and they were selling us snake oil. Ha-ha-ha! I can picture lots of hand wringing and gnashing of teeth at J Street and in other genteel Zionist circles!

    Finally the truth about Zionism is emerging; we don’t have to waste time arguing with Liberal Zionists on boards anymore; now they’ll have to slither away in shame knowing that they’ve been exposed for trying to tell the perfect LIE.

    One more thing; I like watching real-life crime shows like Dateline when there are 3 suspects at the beginning. I always look at the eyes. So often I can pick out a criminal just like that! It’s in the eyes. Zionism is a crime; it’s always been a crime and Netanyahu is guilty after finally confessing to the truth.

    Oh, and Rabin can finally rest.

  20. Vera Gottlieb
    October 27, 2015, 10:35 am

    In other words, let us continue with our plans for a ‘greater’ israel. How I detest these people.

  21. Boo
    October 27, 2015, 11:32 am

    “I’m asked if we will forever live by the sword — yes.”

    Oh, Bibi. You really think you’re gonna live forever? Not even David lived forever.

    “Then Jesus said to him, ‘Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword.'”

    — Matthew 26:52

  22. Kathleen
    October 27, 2015, 11:37 am

    Netanyahu and team refuse to see the writing on the wall….two state solution is over due to theft of more and more internationally recognized Palestinian land. The only choice is a bi-national state.

    Writing on the wall. Israel is an apartheid state.

  23. amigo
    October 27, 2015, 6:15 pm

    For some reason this story only made it to one US MSM , namely , the Huff Post.Haaretz covered it , as did MW.The J Post skipped it .

    I mean , this is big news.

    What,s up.

  24. radii
    October 27, 2015, 6:28 pm

    And there it is – the admission that zionism has been an ongoing campaign of ethnic-cleansing since ’46 and its leaders have no intention of stopping their land-grabs and forcing out the locals until they have it all

  25. John O
    October 28, 2015, 5:27 am

    Just spotted a link to this MW article on British author Michael Rosen’s Facebook page. I am one of his 4,000 plus Facebook friends.

    • Kay24
      October 28, 2015, 10:41 am

      I must congratulate the MDW crew. I see MDW being linked in unlikely places. My sister who lives in Melbourne has linked a couple of articles too, and it seems she independently learnt of it.
      I say, Phil, Adam, Annie and others are doing a great job, and putting out the facts out there.

      I am tired of the one sided garbage here in the US, and MDW is a breath of fresh air.

  26. James Canning
    October 29, 2015, 2:00 pm

    The key problem, of course, is that Israeli control of the West Bank leads to ever more illegal colonies of Jews growing in the occupied West Bank.

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