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The banality of evil as captured in a selfie

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The Christian Peacemaker Team Palestine, a faith-based organization in Hebron that supports Palestinian-led, nonviolent, grassroots resistance to the Israeli occupation, published the photo above with the following description:

While these three men were detained at the checkpoint yesterday afternoon, Israeli soldiers stood by and started taking selfies. Two of the men were detained for over an hour, while one was released after 40 minutes. One of the men was taken behind the container to be body searched. Meanwhile, these soldiers ensured that they captured their role in this humiliating, infuriating and violating occupation for social media.

(27/04/2016)

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  1. DaBakr
    April 29, 2016, 1:25 pm

    this photo should be on the front page of the nyt in all its banal, evil and lascivious glory

    • John O
      April 29, 2016, 1:53 pm

      You’re right, DaBakr. High time more people saw what an ill-disciplined rabble the IDF are.

    • Mooser
      April 29, 2016, 6:10 pm

      Well, what do you know, it’s our old friend “lascivious”!

    • oldgeezer
      April 29, 2016, 7:56 pm

      @dabakr

      In the nyt version the palestinians would be airbrushed out and the selfie used to demonstrate how western and girlish they are. How wholesome. What kind of depraved values were these young people raised with. Disgusting. The decent people in Israel need bodyguards. Only the rotting core is left besides those few courageous souls.

    • K Renner
      May 3, 2016, 12:49 pm

      @Palestinian-hating Zionist:

      All four of them are legitimate military targets as long as they remain in occupied Palestine and act as belligerent, hostile combatants.

      I’d like to see a “before and after” picture of them, if you know what I mean.

  2. Refaat
    April 29, 2016, 3:29 pm

    As a Palestinian kids growing up in occupied Gaza during the first Intifada, I have seen people arrested, killed, injured, and beaten. It was horrible. But what still sticks with my 20 years later are the regular sessions of humiliation at the hands of the Israeli occupation forces. Sometimes they would beat us for the fun it. Sometimes they would line us and, smiling, a soldier would try to slap two or three of us with one hit. The others stood their giggling. And then they would usually follow. That was one major reason why I threw stones at the passing Military jeeps later one.

    • just
      April 29, 2016, 3:37 pm

      Such unimaginable pain that will never go away… the real stuff of nightmares.

      Thanks for sharing that, Refaat. It’s good to ‘see’ you again.

    • Kate
      April 30, 2016, 6:55 am

      Thank you Refaat. Don’t know how you endured that – humiliation is often worse than injury and is inexcusable at any time. I have not forgotten or forgiven instances of humiliation that happened to me decades ago, and most were not as bad as what happened to you since there was usually less of an audience.
      I wonder if the Israelis have any idea how much hatred they engender with this behavior? Apparently not, since they continue to blame ‘incitement’ for any Palestinian resistance.

      • DaBakr
        April 30, 2016, 11:18 pm

        @k

        keep wondering. we know it makes no difference. only the kindest and most caring people on the far left care about’humanity’ in the special way you all do. you probably think there may even be a very small percentage of people on the right, so called conservatives may have any feelings for humanity but you would probably be wrong. we know.

    • ruthruth
      May 2, 2016, 2:19 am

      I can imagine the anger at the constant humiliation and I’m very touched by it.
      It’s too little, too late, I know, but the world is finally waking up to the injustice and the plight of the Palestinians.

  3. a blah chick
    April 29, 2016, 3:38 pm

    Nice to see the gals have cracked the glass ceiling of venality.

    I saw this on Twitter the other day and knowing social media like I think I do it’s just a matter of time before the IDF has to comment.

    If we’re lucky the girls (and due to their lack of maturity that’s what they are) will get a week’s suspension to ponder their wicked ways.

  4. Yakov Hirsch
    April 29, 2016, 7:09 pm

    “A picture worth a thousand words”

  5. CigarGod
    April 29, 2016, 8:28 pm

    If you google image ‘nazi taking selfie’ guess who shows up.

  6. just
    April 29, 2016, 8:38 pm

    … plus c’est la même chose

    From 2010:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-soldier-posed-with-bound-arab-on-facebook/

    ad nauseam

    Naked, dressed, with or without weapons, etc. These are sadists that would make the Marquis de Sade puke.

    • Marnie
      April 30, 2016, 2:25 am

      from your link “army….the best time of my life.” Absolutely disgusting woman.

      But remember the photos from Abu Gharib?

      Why do so many of us continue to look to the united states to somehow make any positive changes in the ME? They’ve done nothing but enable the most cruel regimes, prop up the most evil dictators and continue to bankroll apartheid israel. They’ve never stood on the moral upper ground. The united states was created by the murder and theft of land and treasure of the indigenous peoples and built on the backs and with the blood of Africans.

  7. Ossinev
    April 30, 2016, 10:19 am

    Is this “selfie” being taken before or after a 2 for 1 shooting dead of a pregnant Palestinian woman ? Just asking.

    • hophmi
      April 30, 2016, 6:53 pm

      The banality of evil is three kids taking a selfie? I think it’s more filming a suicide video before Hamas sends some kid to stab an innocent Israeli civilian.

      • eljay
        April 30, 2016, 8:42 pm

        || hophmi: The banality of evil is three kids taking a selfie? ||

        The evil is the four Israeli Occupation Forces soldiers at a checkpoint in Occupied Palestine detaining three victims of Israeli occupation. The banality is the selfie, which makes light of the evil and mocks its victims.

        If it were being done to Jews, you would rightly be offended. Since it’s being done by Jews, you’re cool with it. Go figure.

      • talknic
        April 30, 2016, 10:43 pm

        @ hophmi ” … three kids taking a selfie”

        Making light of armed kids in the IDF? WHERE ARE THEIR PARENTS?

        You support the fact that Israel is willing to sacrifice children in order to maintain the illegal acquisition of non-Israeli territory. AMAZING!!

        “I think it’s more filming a suicide video before Hamas sends some kid to stab an innocent Israeli civilian”

        Link? Thx … … I’ll wait … … …

      • m1945
        April 30, 2016, 11:06 pm

        The occupation began because Israel was attacked. It’s a matter of life & death for the Israelis. Because Israel pulled out of Gaza, the Palestinians were able to launch thousands of rockets & mortars killing or wounding 2,000 Israelis. If Israel pulls out of the West Bank, thousands of rockets and mortars from the West Bank will kill even more Israelis.

      • talknic
        May 1, 2016, 8:43 am

        @ m1945 April 30, 2016, 11:06 pm

        “The occupation began because Israel was attacked.”

        Nonsense. Jewish forces under Plan Dalet were outside the territory proclaimed by the Israeli Government in its plea for recognition the day Israel was proclaimed ” as an independent republic within frontiers approved by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution of November 29, 1947″ http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/israel/large/documents/newPDF/49.pdf

        The Israeli Government confirmed this fact on the 22nd May 1948 in their statement to the UNSC “In addition, the Provisional Government exercises control over the city of Jaffa; Northwestern Galilee, including Acre, Zib, Base, and the Jewish settlements up to the Lebanese frontier; a strip of territory alongside the road from Hilda to Jerusalem; almost all of new Jerusalem; and of the Jewish quarter within the walls of the Old City of Jerusalem. The above areas, outside the territory of the State of Israel , are under the control of the military authorities of the State of Israel, who are strictly adhering to international regulations in this regard. The Southern Negev is uninhabited desert over which no effective authority has ever existed.” … ” the Government of the State of Israel operates in parts of Palestine outside the territory of the State of Israel https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/eed216406b50bf6485256ce10072f637/b4085a930e0529c98025649d00410973?OpenDocument

        There has never been a war in Israeli territory. After Israel made it’s borders known, the surrounding Regional Powers had a right on informing the UNSC of their intentions, to attempt to expel foreign forces from what remained of “Palestine” http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/MFADocuments/Yearbook1/Pages/5%20Arab%20League%20declaration%20on%20the%20invasion%20of%20Pales.aspx

        ” If Israel pulls out of the West Bank, thousands of rockets and mortars from the West Bank will kill even more Israelis”

        Unsupported speculation can be such fun. Here, let me try …

        No there won’t!

      • eljay
        May 1, 2016, 8:53 am

        || m1945: The occupation began because Israel was attacked. It’s a matter of life & death for the Israelis. Because Israel pulled out of Gaza, the Palestinians were able to launch thousands of rockets & mortars killing or wounding 2,000 Israelis. If Israel pulls out of the West Bank, thousands of rockets and mortars from the West Bank will kill even more Israelis. ||

        Yup, it’s the victims’ fault that the rapist keeps them chained in his basement for his sadistic enjoyment. Why can’t they just lie back and enjoy it?!

      • K Renner
        May 3, 2016, 12:53 pm

        @hasbara whiner:

        Yawn.

        Nope. This picture is a good example of the “banality of evil” per the scribblings of Hannah Arendt.

        Hamas isn’t “sending” anyone. No one’s filming “suicide videos”.

        No Israeli in the occupied West Bank who’s been stabbed or shot or run over is an “innocent civilian”.

        It seems to be IDF, “Israel Border Police”, and the invasive cretins who steal land and often act as illegal paramilitary belligerents who call themselves “settlers”.

        If this latter party is to be considered “civilian”, then what are they doing stealing land in an entity that’s not considered by anyone to be “part of Israel”? Israeli civilians belong in Israel, not in what’s left of Palestine.

  8. Marnie
    May 1, 2016, 8:55 am

    As talknic told you, the occupation began according to Plan Dalet. israel moved settlers out of Gaza but israel controls Gaza and her port with an iron fist. Gaza has been called by anyone who has seen it “the world’s largest outdoor prison”. If israel actually leaves Palestine and takes its beastial “soldiers” with them, the only noise you’ll hear will be that of celebration. Israelis aren’t important to non-israelis and I’m sure once every israeli is out of Palestine, Palestinians will be way too busy living and breathing free air to be bothered with the whimpering caterwauling of stupid israelis.

  9. Ossinev
    May 1, 2016, 12:44 pm

    @m1945
    “The occupation began because Israel was attacked. It’s a matter of life & death for the Israelis. Because Israel pulled out of Gaza, the Palestinians were able to launch thousands of rockets & mortars killing or wounding 2,000 Israelis. If Israel pulls out of the West Bank, thousands of rockets and mortars from the West Bank will kill even more Israelis”

    So basically it`s a matter of life and death for the poor defenceless Israelis . For the 1.5 million native indigenous Arab citizens of Israel and the Palestinians in Gaza and the Occupied Territories nothing is a “matter of life and death” since they are merely untermenschen ?

    Simple blindingly obvious solution to all of this then sunshine = one state where all the citizens including the native indigenous citizens have full voting rights and are not discriminated against in any way , say along the lines of Israel`s Declaration of Independence

    Now are you in favour of that or not. If not why not.

    By the way WTF did you get the figure of 2000 Israelis “killed or injured” by rocket attacks. Please specify numbers killed,numbers injured,types of injuries and most important of all sources.

    For your information tossing and turning in sleep because of sirens and banging noises does not qualify as being an “injury”.

    • Kay24
      May 1, 2016, 2:12 pm

      I think m1945 is a bit confused or fed the wrong information. m1946 must have got that number from the last Israeli massacre of Palestinians in Gaza, where around 2500 Palestinians were killed, mostly women and children. Those zionists do have a nasty habit of lying or exaggerating, so we should not be surprised.

      • m1945
        May 1, 2016, 2:31 pm

        What did I say that’s wrong? Please be specific.

      • Kay24
        May 1, 2016, 3:38 pm

        Your comment shows a disconnect to the numbers, as you imply that Israelis are in danger if they “pulled out” of the W. Bank. Take a long hard look at these numbers sourced from BTselem, and you can see your exaggeration regarding the numbers, as you added on the injured too, to make it look worse than the numbers show. It will clearly show who really is in danger and who does the killing in this conflict.

        http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000639

        If that is the way you want it to show, then add on the injured Palestinians too to the already high number of those killed by Israel, and see how the number of Israeli casualties compare to the higher death total of Palestinians. End the occupation and illegal settlements and the rockets will stop.

      • Kay24
        May 1, 2016, 3:47 pm

        We’d better stop linking Wikipedia because by now the devious hasbara has corrupted those articles on this conflict.

        Here is that rabid zionist Naftali Bennet himself participating in those efforts.

        Those zionists sure know how to twist facts and spread disinformation. Luckily there are many credible sources out there that give you the real facts.

        Israel, Jews, Zionists Seminar Takeover of Wikipedia Online Information to Implement Disinformation

      • K Renner
        May 3, 2016, 1:15 pm

        @hasbara whiner:

        Only when you spam and post links like this totally out of context does it help your nasty little narrative.

        That’s of course, the “Palestinians started it and they’re doing it for no reason” narrative.

        My response? End the aggression against the Palestinians, the aggression that’s been a staple of the Jewish and Zionist movement since before the official creation of the so-called “Jewish state” in 1948.

        All Palestinian rocket firings are retaliation or in response to something the Israeli state or the IDF enact or do.

        Want the rockets to stop?

        Stop stealing Palestinian land. Stop shooting up fishing boats in Gsza, or “pre-emptively” striking parts of the Gaza Strip (often killing civilians). Stop maiming and murdering Palestinians out of hand in Gaza and the occupied West Bank both.

        Those are just some of the reasons, outside of generic Palestinian “revenge-ism” for things like this: http://www.countthekids.org/

  10. m1945
    May 1, 2016, 3:49 pm

    @Kay24 May 1, 2016, 3:38 pm

    400,000 Americans were killed in world war 2.
    7,000,000 Germans were killed in world war 2.
    These numbers say nothing about who was at fault.

    Please explain why Palestinians were murdering Israelis before settlements & before occupation.

    • K Renner
      May 3, 2016, 2:24 pm

      @hasbara whiner:

      “These numbers say nothing about who was at fault.”

      Unlike world war 2, the Israel-Palestine conflict was started by the Yishuv and exacerbated by the Israeli state.

      The Jews are the only party in the conflict who’ve committed wide-scale ethnic cleansing. They’re also the only party who’s murdered civilians on a comparatively wide scale, and the more then any of the other belligerents in Israel’s wars on the Palestinians and Lebanese combined.

      ” Please explain why Palestinians were murdering Israelis before settlements & before occupation.”

      “Murdering”. Palestinians were killing Israelis and fighting the murderous, thuggish IDF prior to 1967 because of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, the land theft by Israeli Jews, that began in earnest in 1947 and continued all the way through to the renewed large-scale ethnic cleansing in 1967.

      A handful, if that, of the Jews killed in the years between 1947 and 1967 were actually “murdered”.

      In contrast, Israel (the Jews) routinely murdered Palestinians on the borders of the Israeli state, and in other places.

      Murders, unjustifiable killings, maiming, systematic abuse and humiliation….. let’s just say you don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to attempts at selective outrage.

  11. m1945
    May 1, 2016, 3:54 pm

    @Kay24 May 1, 2016, 3:47 pm

    Anti-Israel people have been corrupting Wikipedia for years.

    • niass2
      May 1, 2016, 8:54 pm

      what’s an anti Israel person? Or is Israel all yours to decide……………….

    • talknic
      May 1, 2016, 11:27 pm

      m1945 “Anti-Israel people have been corrupting Wikipedia for years”

      Hilarious
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

      Wikipedia’s editorial policy is to reflect second hand opinion over facts. One cannot directly quote the UN Charter because it is a “primary source” that might not be understood by readers.

      Editors must in their own words, which is an opinion, cite the opinions of published scholars. Even if the published scholar can be proven wrong by the very wording of the document they are writing about that’s OK by Wikipedia’s editorial policies, as long as a majority of editors agree to its inclusion.

      • Kay24
        May 2, 2016, 7:04 am

        Interesting link, Talknic. As I mentioned before to the new recruit they try desperately to twist facts and try to project their own lame tactics. This is what the m1945 has done. Instead of addressing that youtube video of mindless robots changing the Wikipedia articles on the I/P issue , which is discriminating, and yet another example of the hasbara tactics, m1945 throws a lame accusation blaming “anti Israel people” for corrupting Wikipedia. They are not very smart people, and it is amusing to see yet another (naive) has ba rat trying the same lame tactics used here by many rats before them, saying the same old stupid thing, using deflection, projection, and propaganda, which has been disproved years ago. Boring.

    • K Renner
      May 3, 2016, 12:56 pm

      @hasbara whiner:

      Yawn.

      In actuality, it’s been pro-Israel propagandists who’ve been “corrupting” Wikipedia articles on the Israel-Palestine situation for years.

      Creating individual articles for every “settler” who gets farted at while working to make Palestinians murdered or maimed by Jews footnotes, if that, at “best” whenever it happens.

  12. m1945
    May 2, 2016, 12:38 am

    @Kay24 May 1, 2016, 3:38 pm

    Your link didn’t contradict anything I said.
    There was no exaggeration.
    I clearly said “killing or wounding.”

    I was talking about the danger to Israelis in ending the occupation.
    The number of Palestinians who were killed has no bearing on the danger to Israelis.

    • John O
      May 2, 2016, 9:48 am

      “The number of Palestinians who were killed has no bearing on the danger to Israelis.”

      I think you’ll find that it does.

      • m1945
        May 3, 2016, 1:02 pm

        Please explain.

  13. K Renner
    May 3, 2016, 1:28 pm

    @m1945″

    “Please explain”

    Obfuscating stupidity? Cool beans.

    Or it could be that you really are that slow. It’s very possible considering your views on the Palestinian (and the Lebanese also, to be sure) people and your Zionism.

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