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‘NYT’ editorial on US military aid leaves out Palestinians because it knows it would lose the argument

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There is no comments thread available on this New York Times editorial that says it’s good Israel got a renewed aid package from the U.S. this week, but maybe it was a little too much aid. And there’s a good reason why.

The editorial notes Donald Trump’s notion of making Israel pay for the defense aid it gets from the U.S., then says, “the idea, which would have infuriated many American voters, seems to have died.” Really? Who would be infuriated? Which voters? (Or donors.)

As for Palestine and the Palestinians, they go unmentioned, except indirectly. The Gaza War is mentioned, but only in the context of Israeli casualties being low.

millions more were tacked on annually at Congress’s discretion [between 2007 and 2017] for the “Iron Dome” missile defense system that helped prevent Israeli casualties during the 2014 conflict in Gaza.

There is no mention of the 2300 Palestinians killed by US supplied weapons during that conflict. Hamas is described as a proxy group for Iran, but they are on opposite sides on Syria and word is that relations are cool and– besides, Hamas is a homegrown Palestinian party, it is not some Iranian proxy.

The need for the aid is taken for granted. The Times merely questions how much; “in truth, the aid package is already too big.”

What’s interesting is how obvious it is they are deliberately ignoring the Palestinians. Not the slightest hint of any human rights concerns regarding the aid, and no comments thread where the pesky readers might point out the elephant in the room.

It’s contemptible, but it’s also pathetic. They know they’d lose the argument, so they prevent any mention of it on their site.

They are probably planning future articles on the antisemitism of BDS.

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  1. ritzl
    September 17, 2016, 5:46 pm

    Is Sen. Leahy (iirc) going to go forward with his hearings on the legality of this aid, absent a certification that it adheres to US human rights LAW?

    Oh never mind. That possibility (Ie. the smallest wisp of a hint that maybe not all is quite right/legal with aid to Israel) is probably not in the NYT editorial either (should I have read it?).

    Just curious, but does the NYT disallow comments on all their editorials, or just ones on Israel, or just ones where they [must] KNOW they’re so completely divorced from reality as to invite overwhelming amounts of vicious and well-deserved ridicule?

  2. JLewisDickerson
    September 17, 2016, 8:42 pm

    RE: “Hamas is described (by the NYT) as a proxy group for Iran . . .” ~ Phil Weiss and Donald Johnson

    SEE: “How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas”, By Andrew Higgins, The Wall Street Journal, 01/24/09

    [EXCERPT] Surveying the wreckage of a neighbor’s bungalow hit by a Palestinian rocket, retired Israeli official Avner Cohen traces the missile’s trajectory back to an “enormous, stupid mistake” made 30 years ago.

    “Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” says Mr. Cohen, a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel’s destruction.

    Instead of trying to curb Gaza’s Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat’s Fatah. . .

    . . . When Israel first encountered Islamists in Gaza in the 1970s and ’80s, they seemed focused on studying the Quran, not on confrontation with Israel. The Israeli government officially recognized a precursor to Hamas called Mujama Al-Islamiya, registering the group as a charity. It allowed Mujama members to set up an Islamic university and build mosques, clubs and schools. Crucially, Israel often stood aside when the Islamists and their secular left-wing Palestinian rivals battled, sometimes violently, for influence in both Gaza and the West Bank.

    “When I look back at the chain of events I think we made a mistake,” says David Hacham, who worked in Gaza in the late 1980s and early ’90s as an Arab-affairs expert in the Israeli military. “But at the time nobody thought about the possible results.” . . .

    ENTIRE ARTICLE – http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275572295011847.html

    • Raphael
      September 17, 2016, 11:13 pm

      Fascinating.

      If one thinks about it the 70s and 80s was not that long ago. While I was living in Israel as a Christian Jew, I was interested in walking on the ground that Jesus walked on.

      Bethlehem was off limits to me as a new citizen of Israel; because I was not allowed to visit there, as a Israeli citizen that is also a American. I was also interested in visiting Nazareth, which is located in Israel, and not too far away, from where I lived. But, most of the population were Arabs, and I asked local Israelis if it was safe for me a Christian Jew to visit there, they said, “no”.

      I was imagining similar wink and nod games and scenarios by Israeli soldiers directed at Muslims and Christians before Nazareth became a Muslim city in Israel; but that has a Christian name. Such as if Christians wanted to move there; Israeli soldiers would wink and nod at the Arab Muslims that wanted to kick them out. I don’t know about the actual history of the Nazareth if at one point it was populated by Christians, primarily, before they were kicked out by Muslims.

      • Annie Robbins
        September 20, 2016, 12:24 pm

        I was imagining similar wink and nod games and scenarios by Israeli soldiers directed at Muslims and Christians before Nazareth became a Muslim city in Israel; but that has a Christian name. Such as if Christians wanted to move there; Israeli soldiers would wink and nod at the Arab Muslims that wanted to kick them out. I don’t know about the actual history of the Nazareth if at one point it was populated by Christians, primarily, before they were kicked out by Muslims.

        nazareth is not a “muslim city in israel” it is an arab city — 30% christian. christians were not “kicked out” of nazareth by muslims, unless one considers a temporary era around the 1200’s. if you don’t know the demographic history why are you making up all these stupid inaccurate hypothetical wink nod statements?

        the demographic shift of the christian/muslim population is nazareth was primarily due to the influx of palestinian muslim refugees into nazareth due to israel’s ethnic cleansing of muslim villages during the war. not because muslims kicked out christians.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazareth#Demographic_history

        During the late Ottoman era, the religious majority of the city fluctuated. In 1838, there were 325 Christian families (half of whom were Greek Orthodox, the remainder belonged to various Catholic churches) and 120 Muslim families.[99] In 1856, the population was estimated to be 4,350, of which Muslims comprised 52%, while Christians from various denominations comprised 48%. In 1862, the population estimate was lower (3,120) and Christians formed a substantial majority of over 78%. The population grew to 5,660 in 1867 and Christians constituted roughly two-thirds and Muslims one-third of the inhabitants. These estimates during the late Ottoman era likely represented crude figures.[100]
        For much of the British Mandatory period (1922–1948), Nazareth had a Christian majority (mostly Orthodox Christians) and a Muslim minority. Today, Nazareth still has a significant Christian population, made up of various denominations.[4] The Muslim population has grown due to a number of historical factors that include the city having served as administrative center under British rule, and the influx of internally displaced Palestinians absorbed into the city from neighboring towns during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war.[4]
        In 1918, Nazareth had an estimated population of 8,000, two-thirds Christian.[101] In the 1922 British census, Nazareth’s population was recorded as 7,424, of which 66% were Christian, 33% were Muslim and roughly 1% were Jewish. In the 1931 census, the population grew to 8,756 and the ratio of Muslims increased to 37%. The largest Christian community were the Greek Orthodox denomination, followed by the Roman Catholics and the Melkites. Smaller communities of Anglicans, Maronites, Syriac Catholics, Protestants and Copts also existed.[102]
        In 1946, Nazareth had a population of 15,540, of whom roughly 60% were Christians and 40% were Muslims. The 1948 War led to a mass exodus of Palestinians and many expelled or fleeing Muslims from villages in the Galilee and the Haifa area found refuge in Nazareth. At one point, some 20,000 mostly Muslim refugees were present in the city. Following the war’s conclusion, the refugees of Shefa-‘Amr, Dabburiya, Ilut and Kafr Kanna returned to their homes. However, those Muslim and Christian refugees from the nearby destroyed villages of Ma’lul, al-Mujaydil, Saffuriya, the Haifa-area village of Balad al-Sheikh and the major cities of Acre, Haifa, Tiberias and Baysan remained as they were not able to return to their hometowns.[103] During the war and in the following months, refugees from Saffuriya established the Safafra Quarter, named after their former village.[104] Around 20% of Nazareth’s native inhabitants left Palestine during the war. In an Israeli army census in July 1948, Nazareth had a total population of 17,118, which consisted of 12,640 Nazarenes and 4,478 refugees. In 1951, the population was recorded as 20,300, 25% of whom were refugees. The refugees came from over two dozen villages, but most were from al-Mujaydil, Saffuriya, Tiberias, Haifa, Ma’lul and Indur.[105]

      • Mooser
        September 20, 2016, 12:39 pm

        ” if you don’t know the demographic history why are you making up all these stupid inaccurate hypothetical wink nod statements?”

        Who is “Raphael” writing his comments to? I don’t think it’s anybody likely to read them here. He must be aiming over our heads, to a more sensitive and refined audience of ethnic aesthetes.
        And has he ever done anything but flee at the sight of a response?

      • eljay
        September 20, 2016, 2:06 pm

        || Mooser: … Who is “Raphael” writing his comments to? … ||

        Blind bats, for whom a nod is as good as a wink.

      • Mooser
        September 21, 2016, 2:05 pm

        “While I was living in Israel as a Christian Jew…”

        No “Rafael” you’ve told us, several times, that you trotted right off to the Rabbi, and got a get so you would live in Israel as “Jewish”. And your Daddy’s rich, and your Ma is good-looking.

        There is no category of Israeli residence called “a Christian Jew”. Readers here are not stupid about Israel .

    • yonah fredman
      September 18, 2016, 12:30 am

      This “israel birthed hamas” is more historical curiosity anecdote rather than useful history. Do you really believe that of all Arab states in the region, where everywhere there is an Islamic party but only in “Palestine” there would be no such party, except for the evil Israelis and their plan that backfired. Great, so Israel’s hubris is revealed again, but believe me, israel did not create the Islamic awakening of the post nasser era and this “israel created hamas” repetition is a distraction. Hamas is real and Islamism and Islamic parties are real.

  3. catalan
    September 17, 2016, 10:03 pm

    A site which harshly and arbitrarily sensors diverging opinions is upset that the Times does the same. What goes around…

    • traintosiberia
      September 20, 2016, 10:25 am

      NYT has access to government information classified and secrets ,has access to White House ,to defense and Pentagon. NYT often floats ideas as trial balloon ,on its own or from the governemt to shape ,gauge ,and create public option and perception. NYT is used by government official and used by government agencies for policy making process congressional hearing as expert or cited as evidence ,cited for potential criminal and civil investigation of crimes . NZT hires ex official NYT ‘s staff gets hired by Governmnet or Harvard or Yale or Columbia , Think tanks ,or by IMF or WB or those bodies use NYT to express their positions on many matters that inform public on issues that matter to everybody .
      NYT conducts polls that are used by candidates and parties .

      Given the size and the scope of peddling influence and forming opinion supposedly under the claims of impartia
      Ity ,unbiased stance,open information and neutrality ,NYT can’t behave like Mondoweiss or Weekly Standard does .

  4. JWalters
    September 19, 2016, 10:28 pm

    Keep slugging away at the New York Times, for its craven dishonesty on America’s most pressing, and costly foreign policy problems.

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