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Trump has a ‘magic moment’ in June 2017 to move the US embassy to Jerusalem, Israel lobbyist tells NY synagogue

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  1. Jasonius Maximus
    December 15, 2016, 7:56 pm

    Makovsky is right. It IS time to move the Embassy to Jerusalem!

    He’s also right about the fact that the symbolism in doing so 5 days before the 50th anniversary of the 1967 war would be “irreversible”. Just not in the way he and his fellow Zionists think.

    It would symbolically, officially and undeniably mark the death of any Two State agreement and broadcast to the entire world the existing reality of a single Apartheid Israel. No amount of spin to the contrary will be able reverse it. America might just be able to tame, bully and bribe critical Arab states into acquiescence and Israel might just be able to quash a massive Palestinian uprising and any violent backlash, but they would merely be cauterizing a fatal wound. The rest of the free world will not be able to ignore the reality that has existed for some time now that Israel, from the River to the Sea, is a single Apartheid state ruling an Arab majority entirely denied of land, resources, citizenship and human rights.

    The UNSC will be flooded with resolutions and condemnations, the ICC will have no choice but to bring charges against Israel and one by one EU states and International institutions will follow with embargoes, sanctions and divestment. US vetoes and bullying in the EU will only protect Israel to a point before it is officially declared and made a pariah state by the rest of the world.

    So by all means, move the Embassy to Jerusalem and hurry up about it! Let’s officially put an end this farce that has dragged on for decades under the false pretense of “peace”, let’s get the glaringly obvious reality and dirty facts on the ground out into the open and move on to the only logical and inevitable conclusion left on the table…

  2. broadside
    December 15, 2016, 8:13 pm

    “Israel is not a bumper sticker, it’s complicated.”

    Ah. One of the ol’ reliables, being trotted out, how complicated this occupation is.

    Actually, a bumper sticker is exactly what it is: No Justice, No Peace.

  3. yonah fredman
    December 15, 2016, 9:40 pm

    Right wing white american antisemitism in my lifetime: there was a man named George lincoln Rockwell who made my mother nervous on TV when I was a little kid. (50 plus years later in retrospect in adulthood the fear seems to have been ungrounded, although a nonhistory buff whose family fled europe by the skin of their teeth in 1941, I forgive her fear.) George wallace never voiced jew hatred that I heard, although my father relayed to me rumors that his obvious race hatred extended to jews as well. From George wallace til today, the primary national star was pat buchanan, his speech to the Republican convention in 92 was scary and his deep seated Catholic right wing nationalism was apparent to anyone who read his writings and the joy he took in shocking sensibilities was not reassuring revealing a populism that might go awry.

    It would be silly to pretend that these were the major stories of race friction in the US before the advent of obama. Poppa Bush’s campaign in 88 featured black Willie Horton revolving door freedom from jail on a loop, which revealed the true racial wedge issue in america.

    (It is also silly to ignore where the focus of Jewish gentile American friction has been since the late 60’s and that has been primarily from black radicals like kwame toure and the candidacy of jesse Jackson. because of the predominance of farrakhan in this aspect of friction, I think labeling this friction as coming from the left is a mislabeling, because farrakhan and the nation of islam is a distinctly conservative reactionary group and further the nationalism of kwame toure for example is distinctly illiberal and nonuniversalist, understandable as a reaction to a history of exploitation, but still distinctly illiberal. The intersection of antizionism and black antisemitism has been quite apparent and would be the natural focus to those whose issue is opposing zionism. But the friction is a natural feature of urban societies where economic and political battles for power and turf, and toxic relations between tenant and landlord, store owner and customer, are seemingly inevitable or certainly not unusual.)

    The trump campaign has surely taken the sewer cover off the sewer. It may be selfish to focus on spencer’s seig heil, when trump’s anti muslim and anti bad hombre rhetoric is the true problem.

    Joke: young boy: grampa, grampa, Mickey mantle hit three home runs today.
    Grandfather: what this Mickey mantle did was it good for the jews or bad for the jews.

    Phil Weiss attends David makovsky speech with venom to israel in his heart, so when the rabbi begins with “good for the jews or bad for the jews” he views from the outside and calls it selfish. I’m sure most of the crowd realizes the trump problem is much deeper than the threat to the jews, but I assume most do not come to hear makovsky wishing to bury him and in general agreement with his aipac stance or at least deep sympathy for Israel’s existence. To them the Jewish angle on trump is the issue of the evening and the antizionist in their midst is an enemy of sorts.

    • Mooser
      December 17, 2016, 12:03 pm

      Not bad, “Yonah”! Takes 11 clicks on my mouse-wheel to get past it.

  4. DaBakr
    December 15, 2016, 11:15 pm

    nobody that I am aware of in israel or the US is discussing any plans to build or move an embassy to any part of jerusalem on the east side of the green line. it would be in ‘west’ jerusalem . typical israeli/jew/zionist hating hysteria.

    • John O
      December 16, 2016, 4:42 am

      @DaBakr

      Well, Trump’s pick for new ambassador to Israel just talks about “Israel’s eternal capital, Jerusalem”:

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/15/trump-israel-ambassador-david-friedman

      Which side of the green line the embassy gets built on is totally irrelevant – and you know it.

    • eljay
      December 16, 2016, 7:24 am

      || @aB: nobody that I am aware of in israel or the US is discussing any plans to build or move an embassy to any part of jerusalem on the east side of the green line. it would be in ‘west’ jerusalem . typical israeli/jew/zionist hating hysteria. ||

      “‘west’ jerusalem” is not a legitimate part of (Partition-borders) Israel. Typical hateful / immoral / (war) criminal Zio-supremacist bullshit.

  5. Talkback
    December 16, 2016, 4:36 am

    Another hysterical accusation of hate from a “typical israeli/jew/zionist”.

  6. Citizen
    December 16, 2016, 4:38 pm

    My, what did the camera capture there, in that photo of David Makovsky?

  7. JLewisDickerson
    December 16, 2016, 5:03 pm

    RE: “There’s a risk. Could you minimize the risk in one or two ways? A, you do diplomacy by the Secretary of State, you go to Arab capitals, and say, we’re talking about West Jerusalem, not East Jerusalem . . .” ~ Makovsky

    MY COMMENT: Whoa, hold up dude! Israel insists that Jerusalem is indivisible (not West or East), yet the Secretary of State would seem to be partitioning it. What gives? Is it to be partitioned in perpetuity?

  8. JLewisDickerson
    December 16, 2016, 5:05 pm

    RE: “We’re all in this room because we have one kind of burning question, but Is it good for the Jews?… Where is the Trump administration going to be in relationship to Israel and other Jewish issues.” (said Buchdahl) Maybe that’s why the older crowd was there. I imagine many younger Jews hear Buchdahl with jaws dropping at the selfishness. ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: Out of selfishness or not, I wholeheartedly support American Jews repeatedly and persistently asking themselves whether, in the absence of a comprehensive settlement, Trump’s moving the embassy to Jerusalem (West, East or Unified) is really “good for the (American and other) Jews”.
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  9. W.Jones
    December 16, 2016, 8:35 pm

    hypnotic eyes?

  10. Nevada Ned
    December 17, 2016, 1:18 pm

    This sorry charade has been playing out for decades:

    Congress passes a resolution urging the Administration to move the embassy to Jerusalem.

    The Administration doesn’t move the embassy.

    Next year, same story.

    I recall, in the late 1980’s, a Jewish friend who growled

    “I’ll tell them where they can stick the stoopid embassy!”

  11. shaun patrick
    December 20, 2016, 12:18 am

    There was a recent article in Time magazine which said how many more times does Netanyahu have to say he will never agree to a Palestinian state from his words in the last election to his now famous, i You Tube clip boasting he killed the Oslo accord and the article summarized what is know obvious and that is there will be no Palestine that dream is dead and buried so lets move on as quickly as possible. Israel will come to understand the meaning of the ancient proverb which says “if the Gods want to ruin a man they will give him everything he asked for” and Israel you asked for this and that is a Palestinian majority .

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