R.I.P., Shiksa

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One of the distractions in the Harvey Weinstein story was cultural analyst Mark Oppenheimer’s description of Weinstein’s conduct as Jewish. He said that Weinstein was behaving as a pervy Philip Roth character would toward a “shiksa goddess.” Oppenheimer drew so much scorn for the article that he apologized for it a day later, and retracted everything he’d said.

No doubt many of the men brought down by the sexual harassment revelations have been Jewish (Leon Wieseltier, Mark Halperin, and Knight Landesman); but that underlines the fact that Jews– Jewish men anyway– are an important part of the power structure, something I’ve been stating here for a while. The news in Oppenheimer’s error is: The shiksa is dead. She was once alive and buzzing, in the Jewish and American psyche. Today she belongs to a different time and place. She has no real meaning for the public that’s observing these cases, or for Weinstein either. And that is just as well; for the term was always objectionable, something like schwartzer.

The shiksa rose through the 40s and 50s (when my uncles married them to the concern of my grandparents); but the heyday of the shiksa was the 1970s, when the two tribes of Jews and Christians were feeling one another out, and Jewish people voiced misgivings over assimilation. My parents used to say their favorite movie was The Heartbreak Kid (1972). It is a work of anti-Christian humor, from Elaine May and Neil Simon, in which a Jewish schlemiel ditches his loud wife on their honeymoon in Miami Beach and falls for an icy superficial princess played by Cybill Shepherd. The punchline of the movie is that the Charles Grodin character marries the shiksa at the end, but promptly regrets his triumph, as he looks around at her chilly Minnesota family.

The film is filled with caricature and prejudice. Jews didn’t know that other world, and they were fearful. As my wife said when she met my family, “I always heard about anti-Semitism, I saw it growing up! I never heard about anti-anti-Semitism.” My father had labeled her “Brenda Frazier,” a reference only he and she got to a famous 50s debutante from my wife’s caste, privileged Protestants. I had some of that prejudice myself. “Just because people don’t express emotions doesn’t mean they aren’t having them,” she once explained to me.

My marriage came at the apogee of the crisis in inter-tribal relations, 1991. In that year, the National Jewish Population Survey revealed that 51 percent of Jews were marrying “out,” and the community sounded the alarm about the vanishing Jew and tried to get Jews to become more tribal, with Jewish day schools and Birthright trips. That effort has largely failed; intermarriage rates are now 71 percent among the non-Orthodox, Pew said, four years ago. I assume it’s 3 out of 4 today. These people are not marrying one another out of cultural curiosity/exploration. They’re marrying because they are sociologically similar. (Harvey Weinstein is married to Georgina Chapman, a fashion designer. His first wife was also a non-Jew, said to be a WASP. This is not a person who regards Christian women across some great anguished divide.)

That’s why shiksa is dead. Shiksa was an expression of the lack of the differentiation of the other (bigotry) that only an isolated community could carry on. Jews today are not isolated. We are major cultural and media producers in the U.S. (which is one reason so many non-Jews want to marry us), and privileged Jewish and non-Jewish families are mingling intimately and getting to know one another and overcoming the sorts of distrust that produce such stereotypes.

“We’re from different tribes with different manners,” my wife said on our first date in 1989. “The only question is whether these differences become larger or smaller as we get to know one another.” That comment seems quaint today: those differences seem very small, especially as Americans have struggled with far more global questions of the Other. Shiksa derives from the word “blemish.” I know people who use the word still, but we are too advanced in a multicultural era to indulge the use of such an ugly term.

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  1. Stephen Shenfield
    October 29, 2017, 12:42 pm

    The primary meaning of the Hebrew word “shekets” is the flesh of an animal whose consumption is forbidden by the dietary laws. “Shiksa” is therefore better rendered as “unclean female animal.” Secondary meanings include “abomination” and “object of loathing”. “Blemish” is also a possible rendering but seems a bit tame. It does not fully convey the disgust originally expressed by the word.

    • Elliot
      October 29, 2017, 2:25 pm

      Since we are getting into Hebrew grammar..

      1. The predominant use of the root “sh.q.ts” in the Bible is as a verb (or together with verbal nouns). The word in its various forms appears over 30 times often in the imperative. It means to make something taboo with the sense of disgust. Most of the instances relate to idol worship.

      2. Shekets (SHEH-qets), n. appears less than a dozen times in the Bible, mostly in Leviticus 11. It refers to unkosher small animals such as rodents, crustaceans and insects. Larger animals such as pig are not “shekets” but “tameh” (impure).

      The Bible understands the root “sh.q.ts.” primarily as a construct, even with relation to the unkosher animals. The Israelites are commanded to consider these animals as taboo. In other places the Bible explains the prohibition against Israelite men marrying women of other tribes as a safeguard against conversion to idol (“shiquts”) worship.

      With the lowering of inter-religious barriers and the diminished role of either religion for most mainstream, suburban Jews and Christians, the term “shiksa” is indeed meaningless.

    • Mooser
      October 29, 2017, 2:45 pm

      “Yes, she got a form like Venus,
      And oh!, what a ‘phys’!
      No one can come between us,
      She’s my Shiksa I am her Shaigitz !”

      • Mooser
        November 1, 2017, 1:13 pm

        Everybody loves my baby, but my baby don’t love nobody but me!

  2. Maghlawatan
    October 29, 2017, 1:20 pm

    Harvey Weinstein would prolly f### anything that moves, Shiksa or not is irrelevant.

    71% intermarriage is doom for Israel.

    • marc b.
      October 29, 2017, 2:05 pm

      I think the fallen fig leaf of fossil fuel wars will be the undoing of Israel. Adelson and crew can keep up the charade in the meantime.

    • Ms. Reality
      October 29, 2017, 3:51 pm

      people have been predicting doom for Israel before it was even created. Meantime it goes from strength to strength. A million Jewish Russian immigrants moved there in the last 25 years. As Muslim-driven antisemitism grows in France and the rest of Europe there will be more Jews moving to Israel.

      • Maghlawatan
        October 29, 2017, 6:14 pm

        Most of them were not Jewish. They have been a disaster.

        Alexievich won the Nobel for lit in 2015. She writes about Soviet history

        “Her subjects recall sweaty nightmares, grinding teeth, short tempers and an inability to see forests without thinking of twisted bodies in shallow graves.

        We thought we’d leave communism behind and everything would turn out fine. But it turns out you can’t leave this and become free, because these people don’t understand what freedom is.”

        Neither do Israelis. The Ashkénazim are all traumatised and the Sephardim are ignorant.

        The Russians debased Israel further.

      • lonely rico
        October 29, 2017, 8:15 pm

        Meantime it goes from strength to strength … As … antisemitism grows in France and the rest of Europe there will be more Jews moving to Israel.

        This is “strength to strength” ?

        European anti-Zionism driven by the appalling behaviour of Israel, a rogue racist state which only knows how to bully, murder, torture and destroy ?

        Israel is an abomination, will ultimately destroy both itself and the Palestinians.

        A tragedy of the 21st century.

      • echinococcus
        October 30, 2017, 6:02 am

        Rico,

        This is “strength to strength” ?
        European anti-Zionism driven by the appalling behaviour of Israel, a rogue racist state which only knows how to bully, murder, torture and destroy ?

        Of course it is strength to strength. The increase in opposition to the terrorist Zionist entity, in Ziospeak “antisemitism” is a victory. It is the mainstay of Zio recruitment. A lot of the Zionist action is intentionally and exclusively dedicated to creating that “antisemitism”.
        Think of it, the amount of work it takes to uproot a French family from its home to make it emigrate and become cannon fodder. Each retard who lets himself be talked into doing that counts as a victory.

      • eljay
        October 30, 2017, 7:58 am

        || Ms. Reality: people have been predicting doom for Israel before it was even created. Meantime it goes from strength to strength. … ||

        You forgot to include the bit about the “Jewish State” lasting a Thousand Years.

      • Misterioso
        October 30, 2017, 10:59 am

        @Ms. Reality

        Reality:

        http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/why-jews-flee-to-europe-or-at-least-half-of-it/article15446274/

        Why Jews flee to Europe (or at least half of it)
        By Doug Saunders,
        Globe and Mail, November 16, 2013

        EXCERPTS:
        “Have you heard about Europe’s Jewish exodus? Amid growing tensions and tough economic conditions, tens of thousands of educated middle-class Jews are fleeing every year – not out of the continent, but rather from Israel into Europe, and especially to Germany, which has become the chief destination (after the United States) for the half-million Israelis who have left the country amid its much-discussed ‘brain drain.’

        “This has taken both Israelis and many Europeans by surprise – and offended some Israeli leaders. Last month, Foreign Minister Yair Lapid, during a visit to Budapest, took to Facebook to denounce the growing wave of Europe-bound Jews who have become known in the Israeli media as the New Yordim (emigrants, or literally, ‘fallen’).”

        “Yet for this generation of Israelis, the shift to Europe is surprisingly uncontroversial. Last year, I had a conversation with a successful Israeli historian who had taken up residency in Germany. ‘That move must have shocked a lot of your friends in Israel,’ I suggested. She looked askance, as if this was an unheard-of notion: ‘No, of course not,’ she said. ‘My friends are all just jealous that I can get a visa to live here. Every Israeli academic of my generation wants to move to Europe.’

        “Much of this emigration has to do with Israel’s impossible economic conditions – writer Ruth Margalit recently noted that 87 per cent of Israelis over 25 are financially dependent on their parents.

        “But it is also political: European countries are seen by Israelis as stable, egalitarian and safe, while in an Israel governed by hard-line regimes, the zealots and the Orthodox seem destined to prevail. ‘With all due respect,’ Jerusalem Post columnist Susan Hatis Rolef recently wrote, ‘I think it is physically safer for a Jew to live in Berlin these days than in Jerusalem, though I do not belittle the emotional difficulty involved for a Jew to do so, given the not-too-distant history.’

        “She listed the reasons for the exodus: ‘loss of hope that peace will ever prevail … discomfort with the lack of determination of Israel’s leaders to make a serious effort to separate religion and state … and the feeling that life in Israel frequently feels like life in a pressure cooker.’

        http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3388445,00.html
        “Shoah survivors forced back to Germany due to Israel’s lack of restitution laws”
        Ines Ehrlich Published: 04.16.07, 11:32 / Israel News

        EXCERPT:
        “Documentary shows Israel the worst place for Holocaust survivors to live throughout Western world. Hundreds protest outside Knesset, demand government help survivors with financial difficulties

        “Holocaust survivors have left Israel to live out the rest of their days in Germany due to the better conditions they receive there, according to a documentary program broadcast Tuesday night by Israel’s Channel 2 television.”

        http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.806869
        EXCERPT:
        “More Israelis Left Israel Than Moved Back in Six Year Record. 16,700 left and 8,500 came back in 2015, in first year since 2009 that more Israelis exited than returned.” By Lior Dattel. Aug 15, 2017, Haaretz.

        Also, it seems that support for Israel is in decline in the U.S., especially among all important youth. No surprise!!

        “Support for Israel on Campus Drops by ‘Devastating’ 27%: Study” – The Forward, June 21/17

        “The Brand Israel Group, a coalition of volunteer advertising and marketing specialists, has released a survey that shows a significant decrease in Israel’s approval rating among Americans.

        “’The future of America no longer believe that Israel shares their values. This is huge! Devastating,’ Fern Oppenheim, a co-founder of BIG, told The Times of Israel. While approval of Israel among American college students dropped 27% between the group’s 2010 and 2016 surveys, Israel’s approval rating among all Americans dropped 14 points, from 76% to 62%.”

        Furthermore, regarding the USA: http://forward.com/news/ national/376097/study-israel- losing-support-among- democrats-minorities- millennials/ The Forward July 2, 2017
        ”Study: Israel Losing Support Among Democrats, Minorities, Millennials ‘It appears that the more Americans learn about Israel, the less they like it.’”

        Also, and very significantly, support for Israel among American Jewish college students is in decline:
        Times of Israel, June 21/17:
        http://www.timesofisrael.com/devastating-survey-shows-huge-loss-of-israel-support-among-jewish-college-students/

      • Marnie
        October 30, 2017, 1:42 pm

        “people have been predicting doom for Israel before it was even created.”

        and israel is sealing its doom with its occupation and apartheid.

      • DaBakr
        October 31, 2017, 2:04 am

        @m

        “Most of them were not Jewish” is a gross exaggeration. Most of them were Jewish. A lot of them had fathers that were Jewish which was overlooked. Some came with very little connection (if any) to Jewish relatives.

        I agree with your line in your previous post. pw, always preoccupied with counting jews missed that there were a lot more,’jewesses’ then just the one he mentioned. It doesn’t seem like hw cared much about types except for young and beautiful. such a jewish trait as is ejaculating in potted plants. that’s been taught by generations of jewish men to the young as an excellent fertilizer and a mitzvah so as not to waste the chosen seed

      • helen4yemen
        November 1, 2017, 6:18 pm

        What might have caused that “Muslim-driven” “Antisemitism”?

        You seem to forget that:

        a) any other people would react the way the Palestinians are doing had a foreign people come stampeding from far and seized their land.

        b) Muslim “antiSemitism” has nothing to do with the fact that colonizers of Palestine happen to call themselves Jews. Had the colonizers been Hindus or Zulus or even other Muslims like the Sudanese, the resistance would be the same.

        c) What is it that you expect of the Palestinians? You want them to accept that God favors a certain European people to whom he gifted Arab land? Zionism is simply colonialism in disguise.

      • echinococcus
        November 1, 2017, 11:53 pm

        Abu Bakr shows his crass ignorance about “Jewishness” as defined by his own side:

        Most of them were Jewish. A lot of them had fathers that were Jewish which was overlooked. Some came with very little connection (if any) to Jewish relatives.

        He hasn’t even heard that no amount of relatives can make one “Jewish” if the father isn’t biologically Jewish.
        The transition is strictly per via vaginalis, period.

        Either he thinks that we don’t know the rock-bottom principles of his obscurantist dictatorship, or he doesn’t know them himself.

      • MHughes976
        November 2, 2017, 10:11 am

        Shouldn’t that, echino, be ‘if the mother is not biologically Jewish’? Mind you, It seems that the Karaites think differently.

      • echinococcus
        November 3, 2017, 12:11 am

        Absolutely correct, Hughes. As a child of my times, I am confusing the sexes. Karaites seem to be ahead of their times, too, but they don’t make the rules.

    • Tuyzentfloot
      October 30, 2017, 8:14 am

      71% intermarriage is doom for Israel.

      Curses. Now I’m starting to mix up shiksa with schicksal.

      • Citizen
        October 30, 2017, 10:08 am

        Just like Portnoy did

      • Mooser
        November 3, 2017, 2:11 pm

        When I saw the title, I thought the article must be about detective fiction in Yiddish pulp magazines.

        R.I.P. Shicksa

        “She lay there like a marble Goddess, the very picture of goyischer beauty, and now, colder on the slab than she was in bed last night. A victim of acute dyspepsia. And me, Philo Kvetch, an overworked Jewish detective, was the last one to see her alive and eating!
        “Oys shiddech, baby” I whispered into her shell-like ear. You know how it goes when you start fooling around with tribal entanglements: Oder a klop, oder a fortz! Stick to mayonnaise-and-white-bread sandwiches, and leave the pastrami, rye, bread and chicken soup alone.”
        Darf min gehn in detective kolledj?” I asked myself, and was just headed down to Hester Street to get a fresh bagel when somewhere a roscoe …”

  3. marc b.
    October 29, 2017, 2:02 pm

    This doesn’t ring true, at least for Hollywood types. There was a post on this site a few years back excerpting the dimwit Terry Gross’s interview of the icky Coen brothers. Jewish summer camp nostalgia and the insider reference to Justin Timberlake, whom the Coens had pegged as a shegetz. What a hoot. (There’s ‘gaydar’ and then there’s ‘jewdar’, which if reverse engineered is anti-semitism.). And, ‘said to be a WASP’, is evidence of what? Seems to lead to the opposite conclusion.

  4. Ossinev
    October 29, 2017, 2:36 pm

    @Maghlawatan
    “71% intermarriage is doom for Israel”

    Yikes what is needed as an absolute top Congressional priority is an Anti – Jewish Assimilation Act whereby American gentiles who have the audacity to court and marry American Jews are barred from eligibility for government contracts,government employment,right to stand for public office.

    • Maghlawatan
      October 29, 2017, 11:33 pm

      I like it

    • festus
      October 30, 2017, 11:00 am

      Don’t give them any ideas.

    • Abuadam
      October 30, 2017, 10:13 pm

      NO CAN DO!
      The problem Ossinev is that you would have to amend the US constitution, and congress fiat is not enough:
      Article VI – but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

  5. NorthCascadian
    October 29, 2017, 5:32 pm

    Seems like we need more recovering ex-Jews to say some strong things about the Rabbis. At this stage of the game it becomes awkward to talk with “progressive Jews” who “are not religious” but insist on calling themselves “Jews” and participate in making sure the “goy” and the “Shiskas” don’t say anything bad about the zionist Rabbis. For the non-religious “jews” I say, wake up! Your not a Jew, you are an ex-jew and the people need you!

  6. Boris
    October 29, 2017, 9:03 pm

    I guess the moral of this article is that if Harvey were married to a Jewish woman, he would have to do what he did.

    Interesting…

    • Maghlawatan
      October 29, 2017, 11:36 pm

      Harvey reminds me of Dominique Strauss-Kahn who was also brought down by his weiner. And of course Weiner. And Mark Halperin.

      • Boris
        October 30, 2017, 12:13 pm

        Yes, all of them got involved with shiksas!

        Poor Philip…

      • Mooser
        November 1, 2017, 1:56 pm

        “Poor Philip…”

        Yeah, from what I’ve heard it’s the 4th, and 5th decades of a mixed marriage you really got to watch out for.

  7. yonah fredman
    October 29, 2017, 11:40 pm

    on Downton Abbey, a Jewish male character fell in love with a female cousin of the main family and the father of the Jewish groom-to-be referred to the female as “your shikse”, and the son told the father to “don’t use that word,” and that’s when it became clear to me that “shikse” had become common knowledge as an objectionable word.

    • Mooser
      November 1, 2017, 1:20 pm

      “and that’s when it became clear to me that “shikse” had become common knowledge as an objectionable word.”

      “Downtown Abbey” (sic) ran from 2010-2015. At Uptown Abbey, we knew about it way back in the 60’s.

  8. Keith
    October 30, 2017, 12:23 am

    PHIL- “He said that Weinstein was behaving as a pervy Philip Roth character would toward a “shiksa goddess.”

    Yet another topic which cannot be discussed honestly and openly, yet another example of the power to establish the parameters of discourse, as if another example was needed. Yes, I get the message.

    • marc b.
      October 30, 2017, 9:36 am

      which is why i like roth. maybe not the most sophisticated writer in the world, but there is honesty. feelings of guilt over not doing enough to stop the war, for example. of course, keith, you’re no roth, so you’ll have to be satisfied kvetching semi-anonymously here.

      • Keith
        October 30, 2017, 10:16 am

        MARCB- “of course, keith, you’re no roth, so you’ll have to be satisfied kvetching semi-anonymously here.”

        There is a lot one can say about Portnoy’s Complaint, little of which will pass moderation on this oh-so-sensitive topic. What? You have grown tired of semi-anonymous kvetching?

      • marc b.
        October 30, 2017, 10:56 am

        i’ve been tempted to re-read it in light of recent events, but not sure it’s necessary. fiction is dying i think, at least in my house. most recent stuff is shite. that’s my excuse anyway.

      • Keith
        October 30, 2017, 1:51 pm

        MARC B- “…keith, you’re no roth….”

        You don’t like “Keith’s NO EMPIRE Blog?” I’m crushed!

      • Citizen
        October 31, 2017, 6:34 am

        In my view, Portnoy’s Complaint was luke warm, bad Celine at best but, when it came out, more than enough for the American reading public with its needy, invasive Jewish Mom, masturbation as defense, and oh yeah, the seductive liver and that shiksa, “The Monkey.” Roth was fucking both cultures simultaneously! Now, every American adolescent has watched the American Pie movies multiple times, the French literary establishment has honored Roth, their newest Jerry Lewis, but not Celine.

      • Mooser
        November 1, 2017, 1:26 pm

        “There is a lot one can say about Portnoy’s Complaint, little of which will pass moderation on this oh-so-sensitive topic.”

        You really think so, “Keith”? Well, just watch as I slip a couple, heck, a plethora, of triple and quadruple ethno-sexual entendres right by ’em.

      • gamal
        November 1, 2017, 2:21 pm

        “quadruple ethno-sexual entendres right by ’em”

        there is the Muslim rape army, now the powerful Jewish male nonconsensual cabal, Kevin Spacey, so the moral panic’s going to be permanent then, I know of three separate Buddhist ongoing sex scandals including allegations of severe abuse and rape,

        I think we are all going to have to be chaperoned all of time, somehow I am reminded of the “Ritual Satanic Abuse” days,

        maybe drones could fire sex robots at the rampant when and where required, the solution is technosexual.

      • Mooser
        November 1, 2017, 5:38 pm

        “I think we are all going to have to be chaperoned all of time,”

        As the old Yiddish proverb has it: “Love ’em right, or leave ’em alone!”

    • Citizen
      October 31, 2017, 6:47 am

      I wonder what the French literary establishment would think of this discussion of Roth on the Israel Lobby? Here: http://mondoweiss.net/2012/05/philip-roth-on-the-israel-lobby/

      • Keith
        October 31, 2017, 11:21 am

        CITIZEN- “Or this short article on Israelis from Operation Shylock”

        Interesting links. Thanks. I think that perhaps Roth symbolizes the conundrum which many successful secular Jews face. Much like the rich kid who knows that the family fortune is based upon immoral behavior which he opposes and criticizes, yet cannot bring himself to disinherit himself so he whines incessantly. So to the successful Ashkenazi secular Jew who has abandoned the religion and knows that Jews are not a race, yet enjoys the benefits of manufactured kinship, so he whines about the basis of the life he has no intention of giving up. I quote a very revealing statement from the book review.

        “Philip Roth does discover one ultimate truth about himself and the Jewish people in Operation Shylock. It’s a statement made by the late Bernard Malamud: “If you ever forget you’re a Jew, a gentile will remind you.” In other words, Jews will always be Jews before they are anything else — especially in Israel.” (David Edelman) http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/book-reviews/operation-shylock/

        There it is! The GENTILES made me a Jew! Not my choice, really. But anti-Semitism being what it is and all. Eternal and irrational. This is why I maintain that a core feature of Zionist inspired Jewishness is anti-Gentilism. The fiction that Gentiles inherently view Jews as the “other.” Golda Meir’s oft quoted classic absurdity that she could forgive the Palestinians for killing Jewish children, but not for forcing the Jews to kill Palestinian children. Incredible! Blaming the victim for “forcing” you to kill their children! Gilded victimhood as a way of life.

      • marc b.
        October 31, 2017, 3:13 pm

        interesting. ‘shylock’, which i have not read, sounds like a bit of a rip off of ‘scanner darkly’, although i guess it’s no original conceit of dick’s.

        celine is definitely not as well as known as he should be in the english-speaking (american?) world. ‘journey . . .’ and ‘death on the installment plan’ are two of my favorite novels. the jingo-patriotism and war fever gone sour bits of ‘journey …’ at the beginning of the novel are brilliant. only a couple of other treatments of the bitterness among ‘brothers in arms’ are as good.

      • Mooser
        November 1, 2017, 1:30 pm

        “There it is! The GENTILES made me a Jew!”

        I’ve been screaming about this for years here. They let down their end of the bargain, and what I ask you, is the harvest? The veritable collapse of Zionism and Jewish cohesiveness.
        Ach, but that’s the way it is in this Vail of teas.

      • RoHa
        November 1, 2017, 8:05 pm

        ‘“There it is! The GENTILES made me a Jew!”

        I’ve been screaming about this for years here. ‘

        Sorry about that, Mooser. My mistake. I’ll try not to do it again.

    • Mooser
      November 3, 2017, 2:27 pm

      “Yet another topic which cannot be discussed honestly and openly,”

      “Keith”, that is not fair. Do you know how many comments I have made referencing and linking to “Les Demoiselles de Rochefort”?

  9. Marnie
    October 30, 2017, 4:46 am

    Will there ever be a day when the labels used to describe one another are dead? Shiksa, goyim, schvartza – over already!

  10. Keith
    October 30, 2017, 10:07 am

    PHIL- “He said that Weinstein was behaving as a pervy Philip Roth character would toward a “shiksa goddess.”

    I read Portnoy’s complaint multiple times, initially finding it hysterically funny. Later, I came to see that Alexander Portnoy treated his Gentile girlfriends like objects, never once showing the least concern for their feelings or well being. It was all about him.

    • Mooser
      November 1, 2017, 1:41 pm

      .” It was all about him.”

      And did you happen to notice, in between feats of hepatic love-making, if this crude gratification brought Alex Portnoy any happiness, any spiritual satisfaction, any repose? As I remember (and this was the moral lesson of the book which I took to heart), it did not.
      He ended up in Mexico City, badly hooked, buying weak crude Mexican heroin and wondering if peyote would help.

      • Mooser
        November 3, 2017, 2:16 pm

        Shoot, I’m mixing up Roth’s “Portnoy’s Complaint” and W.S. Burroughs’ “Junkie” again. Sorry

  11. DaBakr
    October 31, 2017, 2:16 am

    If pw future wife was talking about tribalism on the first date it certainly explains a lot as to the origins of MW.

  12. amigo
    October 31, 2017, 12:26 pm

    “If pw future wife was talking about tribalism on the first date it certainly explains a lot as to the origins of MW.” duh baker

    Not knowing your wife , cannot congratulate you .Knowing you , cannot congratulate her.

    • gamal
      October 31, 2017, 1:24 pm

      “Knowing you , cannot congratulate her”

      can you not condole her, is your heart made of stone?

      • amigo
        October 31, 2017, 1:54 pm

        “can you not condole her, is your heart made of stone?”.gamal

        If she is still with him , then the answer is no.

        If on the other hand , she has freed herself , then she needs no condolence.

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