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  • 'New anti-Semitism' on college campuses is largely blowback against orchestrated Israel advocacy
  • I want my country back
    • My own pet theory is that they call them Museums of Tolerence as a way of introducing another Holocaust museum to an area that already has one. In fact I think I recall that when they planed to open the one in Los Angeles someone from the Holocaust museum staff alleged that this would take patrons away from them.

  • On Netanyahu's apology to Palestinian citizens of Israel
    • "... given that morons like you will harp on it for years (decades?) to come."

      Yep, just like Jesse Jackson and his Hymietown remark.

    • " If these JL chaps start becoming a bit too influential..."

      Bornajoo, the proper term is "uppity." : )

    • I just saw the video of the "call to arms." The thousand yard stare, the voice quaking with emotion and the big map of the Middle East looming in the background. Even without understanding hebrew I got the message loud and clear: the enemy is massing on the booths, come out and save the country!

      And no he's not sorry.

    • Bradley Burston's take on this in Haaretz was great:

      "In choreography that must be seen to be believed, Netanyahu, addressing a carefully culled delegation of strongly pro-Likud Arabs, leaves the podium and whips the sheikhs and village headmen into a frenzy. The prime minister ducks and stumps and weaves and bucks and wheels like a faith-healing preacher whirling cyclone-like through a tent meeting." Bwahahahaha.

      Another thing I read was that the whole shindig was set up by his political staff, not anyone from the PM office. Seems a lot a trouble to go through just to provide AIPAC and Stand with US with new pictures for their brochures.

  • Jeb Bush bashes Iran talks as 'foolish' and hails Israeli settlements as 'new apartment buildings in Jerusalem'
    • Oh my dear Lord, why are they subjecting us to all this now? A two-year presidential campaign will take at least a decade off my life, that's assuming I live through it.

      Something Shrub jr said leaped out at me: "A state for the Palestinian people, side by side with Israel, will be possible only if the Palestinian people are represented by leaders committed to delivering on the promises made at the negotiating table."

      Delivering on their promises?! Dude, they can't even collect their own taxes or control their borders and you want them to deliver on promises? This is why I can't give up drinking.

  • Joint List to lead mass march on Jerusalem, as Netanyahu forms a gov't
    • "While Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is in the final hours of forming a ruling coalition to lead the country, Odeh’s group is organizing a mass march. Unrecognized villagers will camp and walk their way to Israel’s seat of government"

      Selma redux!

      Oh, man, I hope they get a good turn out and the cameras are rolling. I hope everyone stays safe from those goons in the police force. If they're smart they'll back off and avoid unpleasant comparisons to the Alabama State Troopers.

      Never mind Iranians nukes or Hamas terra tunnels, a bunch of hebrew speaking, politically savvy, uppity Israeli Palestinians is the ultimate Zionist nightmare.

  • The liberal Zionist lament: Joe Klein and Jodi Rudoren try to explain away Israeli racism
    • Just said: I do wonder what she (Hirsi) found so “difficult” about converting.

      Me: ADD? Didn't she originally claim to be an atheist?

      Hirsi trouble is that she wants to be a member of the ruling elite (pundit wing). But as a Muslim born black African woman she's going to be ignored unless she proves her worth to the ruling class. In the beginning she thought bad-mouthing Islam and joining with the racist right in Europe would do the trick but it was not enough because she's still black. And lying on her immigration papers didn't help either.

      But now she's married to Niall Ferguson (Imperial Historian) and getting paid by the AEI. She's on her way.

    • “It wouldn’t have been terrible if your parents had been left to rot in Morocco,” he told fellow guest Amira Bouzaglo. It must be noted that Bouzaglo had just called him a fascist and a racist for his stand against Israel’s Law of Return and policy of encouraging Jewish immigration, which he suggested was ultimately responsible for the ingathering of the riff-raff whose votes had kept Netanyahu in power."

      This is another reason to keep the hate going against the Palestinians and the greater world, deflect from the tensions within the Jewish community. Otherwise they'd be at each others throats.

    • Annie, that column was just chock full of rancid goodness. Somehow he manages to discuss why Jews are "fleeing" Europe while never mentioning "BDS" one time. But he does give a shout out to the nuclear talks with Iran:

      "In the Obama administration, there are people who know that the Iranians are anti-Semitic, but they don’t know what to do with that fact and put this mental derangement on a distant shelf. They negotiate with the Iranian leaders, as if anti-Semitism was some odd quirk, instead of what it is, a core element of their mental architecture."

      Ya got that? The "core element" of the Iranian psyche is anti-semitism and poor little ole America doesn't know what to do about it.

      Brooks has always been a bone head but these rantings are just unhinged. I think he's heard too many war stories from his IDF son about the glorious battles against Nablus elementary.

    • Have you seen David brooks's latest? Like Klein and Jodi-Jodi-Jodi it deals with Jewish "specialness." It's called "How to Fight Anti-Semitism" and it's pretty bad, even for a Brooks column. There were a bevy of excretory quotes but I think the one I saw on Twitter sums it up quite well.

      "There are others who see anti-Semitism as another form of bigotry. But these are different evils. Most bigotry is an assertion of inferiority and speaks the language of oppression. Anti-Semitism is an assertion of impurity and speaks the language of extermination. Anti-Semitism’s logical endpoint is violence."

      Yeah, cuz who ever heard of hatred of blacks, or gays or Native Americans ending in violence.


  • Settlers attack Palestinian children in South Hebron Hills, injure 6-year-old girl
    • I demand to know what the "unnatural offenses" were because it sounds pretty juicy. Were they trying to get dogs and cats to live together?

    • Something I noted in the story about the IDF "exercising" (really provoking) along the Gaza border.

      "Soldiers found the bomb hidden on the Gazan side of the electronic border fence and made it safe. There were no injuries in the incident. "

      How do Gazans "hide" a bomb on their side of the fence?

    • Did the IDF put their "stone throwing kills!" page back up yet?

  • Why did Herzog run scared? He fears the Israeli people
    • "Israel is by far the most peaceful."

      No, they just do a better job of keeping their troublesome minorities locked up.

    • Obviously the issue is more complex than what I could put in a comment. I was articulating things I have read over the years about the Mizrahi community there. No question that their culture was denigrated by the people who founded Israel. Those from Arab countries were encouraged to change their names and stop speaking arabic, that kind of cultural snootiness has got to leave a mark.

      On the terms Sephardic and Mizrahi we may need to call on our trusty friends here at Mondo. When I first started educating myself on I/P issue, way back in the seventies, they were called "Oriental" Jews. Then they were called Sephardic and now the term is Mizrahi, which I have read is what they prefer. I think Sephardic was the term for those specifically from Iberia.

    • Though I don't disagree with the points you make I think you give Mr. Herzog too much credit.

      Here's the thing, everything that Israel has become is a direct result of the policies Herzog's father and men like him either championed or sustained. They are the generation that committed the Nakba, made Israeli Palestinians live under military rule and launched terrorist attacks into the West Bank or Gaza. They pushed for the creation of discriminatory laws and then after the Six Day war began the planting the settlements. The Labor crowd can howl all they like about what Israel has become but its just sour grapes. They created the racist beast and now it has come to bite them back.

      Likud's success, from what I have read, came from tapping into the frustrations of Mizrahim, people that were lured to Israel with promises of the glorious life they would have only to find themselves discriminated against because they weren't "European" enough. They remember this treatment and now they're paying the so-called "left" back in spades. These people get the blame for how racist Israel has become but can you blame them? Why would they push for "equality" with Palestinians when they have gotten few of the benefits Zionism promised them? And why should they partner with Ashkenazim who have historically looked down upon them?

      So, how to fix this. You can't. Israel won't change until the Jews there see Zionism for the dead end it is.

  • Bill Maher justifies Netanyahu's racism by saying U.S. has done much worse
    • You know what was even worse? the responses of the "panel."

      KINGSTON: You know, I think on this race, Netanyahu wasn't just motivated on his own re-election as much as he is on the survival of Israel. On one side he has the Gaza Strip, Palestinian Authority recognizing Hamas. To the north he has Hezbollah. To Syria he now has ISIS. I think he's actually very, very concerned about the future of his country and the fact, that as you're saying, these countries that are all around him have promised to wipe Israel off the map. So he was fighting not just for his own political future but for Israel's.

      QUINN: Well look, I mean, I think the truth of the challenge and the danger for Israel, that's real and I think it's really important that we as Americans stand with Israel 24-7 (you just know there's a 'but' coming ...). And I think that Prime Minister Netanyahu is concerned about the future of his country. But (bingo!) let's not pretend it wasn't politics 'cause the day after the election we went right back.

      SCHLAPP (pouncing): Of course it was politics! How do you win an election?!

      MAHER: He's a politician, by the way, in a real democracy that lets Arabs vote. So I'm just saying, a little perspective.


  • Zochrot and BADIL bring Nakba to U.S. audience
    • It's definitely a new slur, and one that demands proof. But Zionists have been making up s**t for years. Remember the "broadcasts" that the Arab government supposedly made to get the Palestinians to leave? I haven't heard that one for quite a while. The old stuff was getting stale, time to try out new material.

    • When you listen to these people they sound so sane and humane. In stark contrast to the people who sneer at their efforts. Palestinian history is not merely neglected it is either ignored or smeared with slurs and outright lies. Take it away Edwin Black, "International Investigative Author" (via The World Post)

      "On April 1, 1933, when the Hitler regime formalized its pre-existing boycott Jewish-owned stores as German national policy, the Mufti and his followers saluted and then adopted the Nazi tactic of anti-Jewish boycott, both in name and spirit. Indeed, Hitler became a hero to the Arab community in Palestine and the wider Arab world. After Mohammad, "Hitler" and "Adolf" became the second most popular baby names. Ultimately, in the 1940s, the Mufti joined forces with Hitler, creating three Nazi-flagged divisions of Waffen SS to fight in central Europe. During WWII, the anti-Jewish boycott was coordinated throughout the Islamic world, from India to Iraq, through the Mufti's "Arab Higher Committee."

      Yep, the Palestinian community is just swamped with Hitler Mansours and Adolf Haddads.

  • 'Do US Jews need a Jewish state for our safety?' debate begins in wake of Netanyahu victory
    • It has always surprised me why more anti-Zionist don't use the creation of Liberia as an example. Here was a country settled by people who's parents, grandparents or great grandparents came from Africa, nevertheless it was still a colonial movement. The African Americans who settled there lorded it over the "natives" and this, from what I understand, led to the turmoil that later engulfed the country.

  • White House said to be reconsidering policy towards Israel following Netanyahu victory
  • Meet the Knesset members from the Joint List
    • Since no Arab parties have ever been in this position before we're in unchartered waters. How much can they accomplished? I don't know, but let's see.

    • Hard to have normal relations with people who have their boot on your throat.

    • Meanwhile on yesterday's show Bill Maher puts Mr N.'s statements into perspective.

      MAHER: We got off on a tangent. Let me ask the question I was going to ask about this, which is when he said that, 'Arab voters are coming out in droves to the polls,' I heard a lot of commentators here say, it would be as if Mitt Romney in 2012 on the eve of the election said black voters are coming out in droves to the polls. But I don't know if that's really a great analogy. I think that would be a good analogy if America was a country that was surrounded by 12 or 13 completely black nations who had militarily attacked us many times, including as recently as last year. Would we let them vote? I don't know. When we were attacked by the Japanese, we didn't just not let them vote, we rounded them up and put them in camps.

      Way to go, you scumbag.

    • “humiliated 20 percent of Israeli citizens for the sake of his election campaign” with those remarks. “His first action must be to repair his ways – and not in empty words – and the severe fissure he has caused in doing so. He has to do everything to turn them into citizens with equal rights.”

      And yet when Lieberman attacked Odeh on TV saying that he did not belong in Israel Herzog sat there and said nothing in Odeh's defense. He's only piping up now because he thinks it's safe to do so.


    • Joint List-13

      Lieberman's vanity party-6


  • An American translation of Netanyahu's racist get out the vote speech
    • I use to listen to Barbara Frum back when I still got the CBC on cable. I always liked her and was shocked to learn that she had spawned that creep David. I've never heard anyone say anything bad about her.

    • “We know that politicians in the heat of campaigns in the U.S. and in Israel say things” they may not mean to stick with in the long term, said Malcolm Hoenlein"

      Did anyone in the Jewish community feel that way when Jesse Jackson made his infamous Hymietown remark?

  • Netanyahu and the unraveling of the British Jewish consensus
    • Here's my crazy theory: it's not the Butcher's statements on Palestine that are rankling people but his blatant racist rantings on Facebook. His call on white Israelis to counter the swarthy hordes mobilizing at the ballot boxes recalled the worst of recent American history. It resounded like a fire bell in the night for its ugly, nasty, and vile sentiments. We've known about this aspect of him for a long time but much of the Jewish community liked to pretend it wasn't there. Rather than highlight that government's racist side they instead focus on the two state statements. It was either that or spotlight Israeli bigotry and they're did not want to do that.

  • A response to Michael Douglas
  • Netanyahu's honesty towards Palestinians casts unwelcome light on American Jewish leadership
    • I don't know about the rest of you but watching the Butcher try to explain his "the Arabs are moving on the polls!" remark sounds less than convincing.

      " Mitchell raised the question of bigotry in Netanyahu’s comments, to which he replied: “I’m very proud to be the prime minister of all Israelis. If you re-listen to what I said, I’m proud Israel is the one country in a broad radius where Arabs have free and fair elections.” Netnayahu added, “I was calling on our voters to come out. We got quite a few Arab voters.”

      I guess the part where he affirmed his pride in seeing Arabs voting got edited out of the original statement. He really thinks we're all idiots.

    • "It’s time for Jewish leaders to tell us – without apology – where they stand."

      Their silence indicates where they stand, loud and clear.

  • Netanyahu's victory marks the end of the two-state solution
    • "He (Herzog) might divide the country and we’ve seen what happened every time Israel conceded territory in exchange for “peace” – the area becomes a Hamas terror center."

      I think that whole country needs deprogramming.

    • Page: 15
    • Simply put there are no Zionist solutions for the problems caused by Zionism.

    • "We need to formulate our own vision of a just peace – and urgently. "

      Done, it's called one man, one woman, one vote, with the civil liberties and human rights of ALL the people protected.

      The forces against this are not going down without a fight. Already the excuses are being offered that Jewish Israel did not vote against peace, freedom or equality but FOR security.

      Yeah, right.

  • The historic night for the Arab List
    • "Hanin Zoabi, head of the Balad faction inside of the party coalition, was visibly absent. She arrived late after all of the ceremonies and speeches concluded."

      They better not have been keeping my girl locked in a room like somebody's crazy aunt. We need more big-mouthed Palestinians not less.

    • "Odeh is definitely an inspiration. Unfortunately that’s why I’m a bit worried for him. I hope he remains safe."

      I think I read where he's eligible for Shin Bet protection, not that that helped Rabin. Also would he want those goons hovering about spying on him.

  • UN backs away from including IDF on list of children’s rights violators after pressure from Israel
    • And Do you know that some miserable piece of human slime actually posted on Twitter "asking" if the teacher was still instructing his students in hate.

      Has anyone else noticed that staunch pro-Israel supporters seem to lack basic human compassion?

  • New York Times published piece about Netanyahu’s racism, then rewrote all of it
    • I couldn't finish that Freedland article because after a few minutes the mendacity became so strong it started to leak out of the computer speakers and foul the air. I barely escaped with my sanity in tact.

      Thanks a lot.

    • Wow, I'm glad I read it in its original form. What surprised me was the level of anger and frustration. For the NYT it really minced few words. But I'm not surprised that they ended up re-writing it.

      Trust me, folks, now the REAL re-writing will begin. Soon people who were upset yesterday will be saying that the Butcher's rhetoric was just electioneering and not to be taken too seriously.

      Nevertheless the anger is still out there and as it grows what are the chances of another timely attack on an Israeli institution? As the Republicans were saying back in the nineties it would be irresponsible not to speculate.

  • Who can save Israel now?
    • From what I can tell from Twitter and the after morning comments Israel's apologists seem to be settling on the old "he didn't mean what he said" excuse.

      Romeu Monteiro ‏@romeu 8h8 hours ago
      @glcarlstrom @side_shore Netanyahu did not disavow the peace process. He rejected the creation of a palestinian state.

      Sweet baby Jesus.

    • Oh my dear lord, it's just as bad across the pond. From the Guardian:

      "We will have to wait and see what the new government's policy is," responded Minister for International Development Desmond Swayne on concerns raised in the House that Netanyahu does not support the two-state solution. During international development questions this morning Swayne acknowledged that the situation in Gaza is desperate and confirmed that the UK government remains committed to the two-state solution.

      Lisa Nandy MP for Wigan asked about the government's long-term plan in light of Netanyahu's re-election, a prime minister who believes the continuation of the blockade on Gaza is "a good thing". Nandy said that now is the time for Swayne to apply pressure on ministerial colleagues to "recognise the state of Palestine and end this appalling situation." To which Swayne replied: "We should not be hasty."

      Ya got that? LET'S NOT BE TOO HASTY!

    • The level of bigotry is clearly revealed by the fact that though Kahlon's of Vapid Lapid's parties got fewer seats than the joint list they're the "kingmakers" and not Odeh.

      I hope they can keep the Joint list together, it is after all, a creation for survival. I hope that they will be able to throw a few tiny wrenches into the racist machinery. Keep the waters troubled.

    • Phil, it takes a big man these days to admit he was wrong. God love ya.

      I have been rather dubious about just how close to a "turning point" we are but now, for the first time I actually think things are starting to change. And you know what will help? The "new" Israeli government.

      Already there is speculation about who'll get what portfolio. Imagine Miri "Africans are like cancer" Regev in education or Ayelet "Arabs are little snakes" Shaked as head of interior. And why not Bennett as the new Foreign Minister.

      Fearless prediction: the next year or two will be even more racist, violent and blood soaked than any that have gone before.

  • The implications of a U.S. court's indictment of the Palestinian Authority
    • I think that awful Darshan-Leitner woman was involved. But I truly don't know what they hope to accomplish with this lawsuit. If at the end of the appeals process the PA is told to pay where the hell is the money coming from?

  • Israelis go to the polls today--and nobody knows who will win (Updated)
    • If they can get a significant number of seats they just might be able to throw an itsy bitsy wrench in the whole racist machinery of legislature.

      Also this is ot but what is it with the IDF and their female soldiers' hair? Letting it hang like that looks messy and unprofessional. Just a observation from a crotchety old army vet.

  • Why I hope Netanyahu will be crushed tonight
    • Joint Arab list - 13 seats.

      Yisrael Beytenu -5 seats.

      Mr. Lieberman, here's your petard, sir.


    • "Netanyahu said that there’s nothing wrong with Jewish and Arab citizens voting as they see fit, but accused “funds from foreign governments and organizations” of being used to bring Arab voters “en masse” to the polling stations." Is this the definition of passive/aggressive?

      Meanwhile one of the hasbara twits on twitter is busy contorting himself into knots explaining away The Butcher's racism:

      Haviv Rettig Gur
      Netanyahu is not a racist, but on Election Day, in a moment of need, decided to mobilize far-right base by demonizing Arabs

      Then when taken to task:

      Amir Tibon ‏@amirtibon 5h5 hours ago
      @havivrettiggur I love your writing Haviv but putting make-up on this thing is shameful.

      Haviv Rettig Gur ‏@havivrettiggur 5h5 hours ago
      @amirtibon who's putting makeup? You're going election-crazy. Bibi's racist campaign is worse, not better, for being so out of character

      Got that? The racism is so out of character. Still Tibon was having none of it so in the end Gur fell back on the "it's complicated" excuse:

      Haviv Rettig Gur ‏@havivrettiggur 5h5 hours ago
      @amirtibon Reality is lame. Complexity is lame. I'm lame. Guilty as charged.

      I'm so enjoying this show.

  • Israeli forces injure and arrest Palestinians from Hebron area
    • Just, did you follow any of the #askhamas on twitter? I looked at some of it. What glared out like a beacon was how sane and reasonable the Hamas people sounded and how bat s*** crazy or vile many of the pro-Israel crowd were. They were the real barbarians.

  • Fans of Barcelona basketball team show support for Palestine despite attacks on free speech
    • Would someone explain to me how the Mossad gets to police football games? And why did anyone thinking banning the flags and signs was going to work?

  • 'We aim to shape the democratic and moral alternative in this country' -- an interview with Ayman Odeh
    • "The Jewish Home usually wins a few thousand votes from Palestinian citizen of Israel because the group pushes for social benefits"

      I'm pretty sure that some of those votes are also bought through patronage, cuz that's how it works out there.

      Also how good is Odeh's english? He's needs to be fluent in it to really impact people in the states.

    • Oh, Hopmi, you know perfectly well that the reason they raised the threshold was to get rid of the Arabs parties and the pesky smaller Jewish parties like Shas. They told the electorate that the raising would help "stability" by eliminating the smaller parties that might bold their coalitions and necessitate elections. But guess what someone actually went and looked at when coalitions broke up and when they did it was because the bigger parties pulled out, not the smaller ones.

      Also it was not a forgone conclusion that the Arabs parties would unite. I believe that at first Hadash said they wouldn't join.

      "At worst, Odeh will lead the opposition, and at best, they’ll be part of the government. Either way, it will be a positive thing for Israel in the long-term." For whom? I doubt many Zionists are cheering the possibility of and an Arab having that kind of exposure.

      Anyway if Lieberman, who championed the raising of the threshold ends up out of parliament I might dance in the street and pass out candy. Hoisted on his own petard. Bwahahaha!

    • The difference is that not all the Palestinians in Israel vote and they don't all support the Joint list. There was an article in Haaretz by a Palestinian Israeli that he's voting for Meretz because he doesn't like the inclusion of the Islamic party in the coalition. He wants separation a religion and state. Palestinians, like everyone else, have differing opinions on politics.

  • The farewell party of the mezuzah-kissers
    • The whole "does he support a one/start, two/state" reminds me of a great skit Dave Chappelle did on R Kelly's troubles. No matter how much indesputable visual evidence the trusting black folk on the jury saw they continued to give Kelly the benefit of the doubt, because they liked him too much.

      How much clearer does Butcher Bibi have to be before people "get it."

    • They've been making up s*** for years.

  • Purim in the holy land: Jewish teens attack two Palestinians
    • Looking at the young woman yelling at the man reminded me of the photo of the white girl screaming at Elizabeth Eckford as she walked to class at Little Rock High School in '57.

      Between this, the hook-nosed Jewish "traitors" in that settler video, and Butcher Bibi murmurs about a global conspiracy to topple him Israel has come to resemble an anti semitic state. Go figure.

  • Herzog and Netanyahu are likely to share power -- because Herzog won't share it with Arab List
    • Last January one of the IDF companies that was based near Gaza said that they were pulling out. The people who lived near by went crazy and the thought that they would be at the mercy of the terra tunnels (cuz they'd been whipped into a frenzy by their government.) Th defense people said they did not have enough money to keep the troops on duty there. That same week the government transfered 70,000,000 shekels from the defense budget to the settlers.

      Some day the gravy train will end.

  • Sheldon Adelson is not the problem
    • The most charitable thing I say say in response to the article is that yes, Adelson is not alone in his behavior. Wealthy people have a disproportionate amount of influence because they have so much money to buy political loyalty or lobby for legislation they want.

      Adelson is singled out because in addition to reminding everyone of Mr. Potter he uses his wealth to influence foreign policy. Birthright is not about getting young Jews to get in touch with their roots it's about recruiting them to go live on settlements and/or join the IDF. He bankrolls a free newspaper in Israel that is proudly pro-Bibi and has called for the nuking of another country. And because he got booku bucks politicians look to him for a handout and listen to him. All this goes beyond just giving money to causes you believe in.

      He's a major player and like his ilk is not elected or appointed, so there is no way to hold him accountable for the disastrous policies he champions.

  • Big front-page NYT article on 'settlements' does not quote one single Palestinian
    • "Israel is a man-made miracle and an astonishing human endeavor,” said Shavit"

      Where else could a man have discovered the life-affirming qualities of sex in public toilets.

  • 'The chrysalis of mirrors around Palestine' -- 'Two Blue Lines' screens on first night of JVP
    • "What about Michael Moore?” Hayes quipped, “Michael’s not answering my calls–yet.” We listeners chuckled. “In 1989, he was thinking of doing a film during the first uprising. So I don’t think he’s PEP.”

      Moore hosted the guy who did Five Broken Cameras. I don't know how "liberal" his views are but he's definitely not PEP.

  • Netanyahu flails against int'l conspiracy, as liberal Zionists seek orange revolution against 'fading strongman'
    • "Barak Ravid is mocking the prime minister’s statements about outside influence: Netanyahu says “Scandinavia” is trying to topple him. Yes – you heard me – Scandinavia"

      At times like this I turn to Billmon:

      "Apparently, Bibi's convinced he's the latest victim of the Vast Scandinavian Conspiracy."

      "But we know Scandinavians are just pawns -- manipulated by shadowy forces of international Islamism & the secret Muslim in the White House."

      "Only Netanyahu, the heroic Leader of the Jewish people, can hold back the Islamo-Scandinavian hordes & defeat the Secret Muslim & his plots."

      Israel is the ultimate Zionist nightmare, resembling everything they claim to hate.

    • " Dermers et al are gonna be in deep doo even if he wins… he’s a blamer and is obviously paranoid."

      True, but from what I have heard Butcher Bibi is a moral and physical coward who hates personal confrontations. And since he can't send an F-16 to take out Dermer he'll have to find some other way to deal with him. And I think Dermer knows where too many bodies are buried to be done away with.

    • You are so right, my friend.

      And if the libs win one of the first things they'll do is dust off some old peace initiative, that was rejected years ago, submit it to the PA who will reject it, then throw up their hands and say "look, we changed the leadership, we're starting fresh, and those Arabs still won't deal."

      And Jodi-Jodi-Jodi of the NYT will do her duty by making sure that perspective is rammed home. Trust me, no matter who wins the Palestinians will get the blame if the "peace process" stays moribund.

    • Wow, when was the last time you heard an Israeli PM referred to as a "strongman"? We're in Qadaffi territory with that one.

  • 'J Street' leader promotes Israeli 'change' coalition that could include politician who called for beheading Arabs
    • "Neither man mentioned the fact Lieberman, who is Israel’s Foreign Minister, called for beheading Arabs who are disloyal to the Jewish state five days ago"

      Well, what's a little beheading between friends.

      "In response to a caller..." I'd be very interested to know if they were screening the callers.

  • Even if Netanyahu loses, he can still win
  • Barney Frank says Israel and AIPAC lobbied Congress to support Iraq war
    • "AIPAC did a whole light show around Selma, and had three African-American activists out on stage to talk about their love of Israel." Meanwhile Jews of color and African refugees are treated to racism or brutal internment in that country and not a peep out of them.

      I think it would be interesting for someone to find out what Aipac people actually thought about the Selma March at the time. Could be very interesting.

  • Cotton's rise was fueled by pro-Israel money-- but 'NYT' and Matthews won't tell you so
  • We may not have Netanyahu to kick around anymore
    • "He could have thrived on the nationalistic winds that swept Israelis over the course of a stormy summer, rather than wither away in the shadow of the indifference and frustration that mark this winter of discontent"

      Stormy summer for whom?

    • That's the math i have seen at various sites. Also I would not rule out some idiotic "unity" government.

      Unlikely, I know but Tzipi-do-dah wants to be PM real bad and this might be the only chance she'll get.

    • What's even more beautiful is that Lieberman's party might only just make the threshhold if it makes it at all. Lieberman, who championed raising the threshhold in order to eliminate those pesky Arabs. And if that happens the schadenfreude will taste sweet, and with a long finish.

  • UC Berkeley Israel group wants to ban imaginary word rhyming with intifada as 'triggering, terrifying'
    • Donald, I believe that the satirical video you mentioned was done by Eretz Nehederet. It is hilarious. My favorite part was when one of kids says something about the Arabs and the teacher gently suggests the proper term is "demographic threat." Some people there do indeed get it.

    • Wow, if I had any doubts how well funded the Zionist Jewish groups are this leaves no doubt. But they are running scared. they can't engage with good arguments so all they have left is to try and shut people up. They simply do not have the skills to mix it up in the marketplace of ideas.

      Want to make an Islamophobe's head explode? Tell them that Israel has shariah law and then take cover.

  • On first campaign stop in West Bank, Netanyahu warns that 'radical elements' want to take over Israel
    • “The activity of the IDF and the security services is essential to prevent a takeover by radical elements that would certainly attack Israel and threaten our communities and our people, and would also threaten the Palestinian Authority and take control of the Palestinian public,”

      It even worse than this because the furrin' NGO's are conspiring with lefties traitors to raise the number of Palestinian voters! Democracy is in danger!

      "These are well-funded organizations that can bring the number of Arab [Knesset] seats up to 16 and decide the elections." [972mag] The nerve of them.

  • Police raid new Palestinian media center and confiscate computers
    • "The huge story this week is the PLO voting to cease all security coordination with israel... That’s the real and genuine nuclear option if Abbas ever follows through with it" Exactly.

      Bornajoo, you might know better than I but if more middle aged, fat reservists had to take time out to chase teenagers down back alleys wouldn't they put some pressure on the government to end the occupation?

    • Another great compilation, Kate.

      "Israeli police on Monday ransacked the offices of a newly established media center in the city of Umm al-Fahm in northern Israel"

      We're seeing more and more of this as Israeli Palestinians gain a presence on social media. Also the government there ignores the provocation of the Third Temple nuts at their peril. Those people are motivated by "God" and cannot be reasoned with.

  • Israel's Foreign Minister calls for beheading Arab citizens and it's not anywhere in the New York Times
    • when the party and coalition heads were on Israeli TV recently Lieberman told Odeh:

      "Why are you in this studio rather than a studio in Gaza? Why are you running for the Israeli Knesset instead of being elected in Ramallah? Why are you even here. You are not wanted here. You are a Palestinian citizen, you identify as Palestinian, so go to Abu Mazen [Mahmoud Abbas] — he will pay your salary, your unemployment benefits, your convalescence, your laziness benefits."

      Not one of the squishy liberals sitting there defended Odeh.

    • He's got a bee in his bonnet about Israeli Palestinians seeing the creation of Israel as a bad thing for their people. "Off with their heads!" Unless they accept Zionism into their hearts.

    • Cue the Wizard of Oz.

      "Pay no attention to that man in the Foreign Ministry!"

    • "Lieberman’s statement should be viewed in the same light, that is it should not be taken too literally."

      Newsweek quotes some people who also took him too seriously.
      "A number of former Israeli diplomats, including former Israeli ambassador to South Africa, Alon Liel, and former ambassador to France, Daniel Shek, publicly condemned Lieberman’s incendiary remarks.
      "Israel's number-one diplomat is waving an axe over the heads of citizens of the country that he represents, and in the same breath, he preaches to the whole world about fighting antisemitism," the diplomats told The Jerusalem Post."

      He's not some half drunk crank in a bar, he's the frickin' foreign minister.

  • Racism disguised as liberal anguish
    • "Try something new."

      That's the frustration with trying to engage people like this, facts mean nothing.

    • "They blame all of the “leadership”, instead of ever placing any of the blame on Israel."

      Zionism doesn't do responsibility.

    • Mls31286- "I am going to lead by saying I hope you post my comment even though I disagree with what is being said here and hope you are willing to listen to my side."

      Whereupon he/she reiterates the very same talking points repeated in the media again and again. As if we have not heard them before.

      Have you no humanity left in you? Can you feel nothing seeing those dead babies in those ice cream coolers? Whole families wiped out and neighborhoods destroyed? Spin those horrors anyway you like but those were Israeli bombs falling on Palestinians people. You are just trying to salve your miserable conscious by blaming the victim. I've tried to engage people like you in the past but no more. There is no heart there, no concept of decency or simple humanity.

  • The Nakba Day denial
    • ".Newsweek’s Ishaan Tharoor wrote that Israel’s Foreign Minister “possibly crossed a line”. Ya think?"

      Has Ms. Psaki chimed in with her standard "that's not helpful" line yet?

  • Bearing witness in Gaza, Kristof can't see the bigger picture
    • "... its exactly about Zionism and the narrative that Zionists wish would be excepted as the uncontested version of historical events-through narrative and/or when that doesn’t work- lies, revisionism, Israeli government hasbara, propaganda, terrorism, lawfare and bds" [boycotting Palestinian businesses; sanctioning Palestinian charities; divesting from the Arab sector]

      Fixed it for you DB!

  • Paris university reverses decision, allows Israeli apartheid event with Blumenthal
    • I saw today (I think it was at JPOST) about how Israel is asking for the world to send aid to the poor Kurds.

      Much like their beloved Israel they only notice others suffering when they think they can use it to deflect attention.

    • In fact Max made the Simon Wiesenthal Foundation's list of the top ten anti semites of 2014!

      And what is even crazier is that about 7 out of the 10 were Jews. Insanity rules.

  • On 'Birthright,' a checkpoint is called a tollbooth, and Jews have E-ZPass
    • "Sure, the Bedouin tent is fake, it’s a tourist attraction. Just as fake as “Colonial Williamsburg” in Virginia or “Mystic Seaport ” in Connecticut."

      True but Williamsburg is not trying to recruit people for their army, nor is Mystic trying to get people to illegally settle on their outskirts.

  • Palestinian leaders vote to end security coordination with Israel, a cornerstone of Oslo and the occupation
  • It was a bad week for the Israel lobby
    • "Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said in Iowa that the charges are politically motivated."

      From what I have read cruising the inter tubes Menendez is considered stupid, arrogant and has burnt too many bridges. He doesn't have enough powerful friends to help him out.

      Just look at the differing treatments of Petraus vs Snowden.

  • Israeli navy kills Palestinian fisherman, 25
  • 'NYT' reports 'surge of hostile sentiment against Jews' nationwide -- on what basis?
    • I believe they did take this off their ID cards but if its got a magnetic strip on the back, as many ID cards all over the world do, then they still have access to which "tribe" you belong to.

    • "Confront Zionsim Boycott Israel" They make that sound like a bad thing.

      Also I'm a little confoosed. I keep hearing from these folks how BDS is going nowhere and more of a bother than anything. Then they say it is the greatest menace since Hitler...which is it?

  • WSJ columnist says 'I'm almost grateful' for attack on kosher supermarket that killed four
    • "I started covering the Middle East when I was based in Brussels for the Wall Street Journal in the late 1990’s"

      He covered the Middle East...from Brussels. I guess the cabbies are more knowledgeable there.

      "I sensed that there was a great deal of anti-Semitism on European streets and it was anti-Semitism coming in both a kind of vulgar and high-tone variety, ... a high-toned variety which typically went by the anti-Zionist catchphrases,"

      Got that, anti-Zionism is just high- toned anti-semitism.

      "the Economist is a serious magazine.. there was a line that said Israelis are a superior people ...their talents are above the ordinary, but they must curb their greed for other people’s land. And I thought, Boy, if that’s not an antisemitic trope: those clever Jews, superior, but greedy."

      Haven't we had Zionists touting all the Nobels Jews have won? As for them being land greedy Stephens must have slept through much of the "so-called" occupation.

      He's the poor man's Goldberg.

  • Over one quarter of Netanyahu’s speech to Congress consisted of applause and standing ovations
    • Their behavior reminds of a scene in the movie "The Concert." One of the characters, an old timey communist, enjoys the chance to go to Paris where he hooks up with his old socialist buddies. One of them recalls the glorious convention of 1966 when their party got "%110" of the vote. Ah, yes, one to them says, no one ever did better!

  • Media are stunned by Congress's 'loyalty' to Netanyahu (but refuse to explain it)
    • How does a nation (Israel) with nuclear weapons feel threatened by a country (Iran) that does NOT have them?

      And, yes, I do feel myself morally superior to most Jews in Israel. Most of them have made it clear that they are racist and proud of it.

  • Israeli soldiers set attack dogs on teen -- 'Bite him' -- and rightwing politician cheers
    • I'm curious as to how Ben-Ari got a hold of it. Obviously the soldiers involved felt no shame in their behavior.

    • "However B’tselem’s 12 minute video, taken by volunteer Mohammed Awad, didn’t include the leaked dog mauling scene captured by a soldier from the Oketz unit, which is classified and not for public consumption."

      Why is this classified? What deep dark government secrets are revealed here? I know, because it makes Israel look bad. Makes you wonder what other stuff they have classified.

  • Pelosi blasts Netanyahu speech as 'insult to intelligence of U.S.', Amanpour calls it 'dark, Strangelovian'
    • I heard that Yonatan was the one his father was grooming for politics. But after he was killed Bibi was called home and told take take up the mantle. Think of the Kennedys crossed bred with the Asad family.

    • What about Israel's bombs?

    • That has got to be rigged.

    • "In a couple of days it’ll be forgotten and back to business as usual."

      I fear you are correct.

      I couldn't bear to watch it but according to the reviews it was a bit of a let down. Just the same old tired lies, obfuscations, bigotry and warmongering but he didn't get as many standing ovations as last time! I'll take that as a minor victory.

      I shall now pray that the Joint List cleans up in the coming election.

  • Journalists Goldberg and Gordon once again try to 'drag us into a war'
  • Protesters aim to #ShutDownAIPAC ahead of Netanyahu speech
  • Bipartisanship is dead, as Netanyahu, AIPAC, and GOP square off against Obama over Iran
    • asherpat March 3, 2015, 2:08 am
      Dear Chic, your point does not undermine my point in any way. Whether Israel does or doesn’t have nukes, I still choose “bipartisanship” over death. Wouldn’t you?

      I beg to differ. You claim a fear of Iranian nukes raining down upon you and I said that the closest nukes capable of doing that are in Israel. (And yes, Israel has nuclear weapons) You can come up with any hypothetical situation you want to justify your position. Thank you for not quoting Jack Bauer.

    • Oh my dear lord. Sweetheart the only nukes that will go off near you are the ones your country has or the reactor they got at Dimona.

      By the way when was the last time those babies got checked out by an international body?

    • Tentacles of terra! Tunnels of Terra! Terra, terra TERRA!!!!!!! After which he will hold up a sign of a Gaza family and talk up how 60 terra cells were taken out last summer.

      And when someone says they mean to disrespect they usually do. I'm hoping he's comes to congress hung over and uses the n-word. And I don't mean "nuclear."

      What should be the parameters of the drinking game? I propose, no particular order, holocaust, terra, Hitler, Never Again! annihilation, with a shout out to Hezbollah.

  • Bil'in marks ten years of resisting the occupation
    • They are truly courageous people.

      This is the type of popular struggle that all the squishy liberals say they are waiting for. Well, here it is, where are you?

  • Rightwing rabbi seeks to pit Power against Rice on Iran ahead of AIPAC speeches
    • Well, after all this drama Butcher Bibi better "bring it." If his speech doesn't have people smelling burning Iranian flesh I will consider it a let down.

      Anyone want to propose a drinking game?

    • “He doesn’t speak for me on this,” Feinstein told CNN’s State of the Union. “I think it’s a rather arrogant statement. I think the Jewish community is like any other community. There are different points of view.”

      Gee, where was this attitude last summer?

      “I intend to go, and I’ll listen respectfully,” she said. “I don’t intend to jump up and down.”

      No, she'll rise gracefully from her seat, clap vigorously then lower herself in a lovely fluid motion.

    • I must confess to be ambivalent to this "confrontation" as I cannot stand either of them.

      It's like the Cowboys playing the Patriots in the Super Bowl, is it possible that they could both lose?

  • The Emperor's Nuke Clothes
  • FAQ: Palestinians and the Israeli elections
    • I would like to commend Ms. Deger for a succinct and clear presentation of the up coming election.

      If the Arab Joint List gets more seats than Vapid Lapid's party I might dance in the streets and pass out candy. Anything to wipe that smug look off his face.

  • Leading NY institutions discuss the Nakba -- and there is not a Palestinian in sight
    • Liberal Zionism has gone from Nakba denial to Nakba acceptance without ever passing through responsibility.

  • Israel gives out 'security Oscars' at the UN to Iran, Hezbollah, Saudi Arabia and PA
    • The black flags are what got me to scratching my head. Would self described Islamic warriors be carrying green flags or some such?

      I recall saying to my father some weeks back that these guys looked like Middle Eastern bad guys straight from central casting.

    • Cannon Pictures would have KILLED to have baddies like this.

      What you wanna bet that every two bit screenwriter is pounding out his ISIS script even now.

    • Wow, just wow.

      It's really telling that no matter how much kissing of arses (ha!) Abbas does he still gets treated like a red-headed stepchild. (Old southern saying).

      Does anyone in the Israeli government have any grasp of reality?

  • Netanyahu speech is 'destructive' of 'bipartisan, immutable relationship' between US and Israel, Rice says
    • "Dershowitz suggests that the Congress has a constitutional responsibility to hear Netanyahu,"


  • Israel turns off power to hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in the dead of winter
    • "- And about the “caged Palestinian children in outdoor holding pens during freezing winter storms “- arrest terrorists (and teens – too!) not always possible to provide comfort to the terrorists … These teens are no long kept in the cold! – And none of these “children” is not frozen"

      You are well on your way to becoming my new favorite commenter (hasbara division). I have not seen so much barely coherent cluelessness since my beloved Shuki stopped dropping in.

      I salute you.

    • Ho, boy, another "they ain't freezing' !" response.

      Picture this, buddy, your worst enemy has control for your thermostat.

    • Herb, the people who comment here are very well-informed, some have or are living in the Middle East. So, the usual crap hasbara talking points are not going to fly here.

      You need to bring your A-game.

    • So, who's gonna foot this bill? PA doesn't have any money.

    • You mean the people sitting in jail because Israel re-arrested them in clear violation of the agreements they entered into during the last prisoner exchange?

      Tide's starting to turn, Herb, but hang in there!

    • "Is the dissolution of the PA a solution? A member of Islamic Jihad told Haaretz last week, “I detest the PA. Its existence is a disaster, but its dismantlement would be a greater disaster.”

      For whom?

  • Inflammatory posters at UCLA call Students for Justice in Palestine 'Jew haters' (Updated)
    • "Or is it hatred of everybody who is neither David Horowitz nor contributes to material (please donate) and psychological (please flatter) well-being of David Horowitz?"

      I think he's just channeling his inner Jack D. Ripper.

    • I have no doubt that many if not all of them were coerced. I was simply wondering what choices the Gazans had when these people were uncovered.

    • Exactly, expelling them to the Israelis would have only allowed them to give their reports in person. As for holding them in detention or sending them to the UN how would that have worked? Israel was bombing UN facilities and anything else standing up. These people would have ended up getting killed in either place.

      Didn't collaborators get executed in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising?

    • Considering that the people who put up posters like this also routinely support the shooting of unarmed protesters I have serious doubts they really care about the people Hamas executed last summer.

      Here's a question I have no answer for: Gaza was having the s**t bombed out of it by land, sea and air, how were they supposed to deal with people caught aiding the enemy? Hold them in detention? Send them to the UN people? Expel them to Israel?

      Anyone got an answer?

  • Racism is in the air: Video showing racist exchange between Israelis and a flight attendant goes viral

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