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I am Irish with a profound interest in the Palestinian /Israeli conflict.

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  • Israel threatens to toss Antony Loewenstein after he asked Lapid question about apartheid
    • "I am getting a bit sick of these repeated women-chained-and-raped-in the-basement comparisons. Is this a memethat is widespread in the US or something? I really do not like it. " Elisabeth

      Perhaps you could help Eljay come up with a more apt , (in your opinion) analogy .In the absence of that , then perhaps you should not venture into the basement.

      I think eljay,s analogy is a bit on the conservative side.Israel,s behavior is quite without equal but perhaps comparing it to a slaver constantly beating and starving his slave while raping the slaves wife albeit not in a basement would be more apt..Yup , good ole Israel , willing to do almost anything --correction , anything right out in the open and that ungrateful slave shows no appreciation for the special attention he and his family given.

    • The Lapid reply is conspicuous by it,s lack of presence in the J,Post piece.

      I guess it did not pass muster at the MCD , (Mossad Censorship Dept) .

  • Historical evidence does not support Zionist claims re the Western Wall
    • "It may well be true that the Western Wall was never part of the Temple complex. I still sympathize with the many Jews who feel a strong attachment to it. "Walker

      Is having one,s back to the wall the same as having an attachment to it.

  • Friedman pick will force good liberal Zionists to admit the peace process has failed
  • Adelson and Saban were kingmakers, now they're beggars
    • "is bolton out? great, as i predicted." Annie.

      Yes you did.I recall that post.However, don,t be shocked if he shows up somewhere in the mix.These slippery snakes have an uncanny habit of getting through the tiniest crack .

      He is one vile contemptible piece of work.

    • Hope you are right Phil.I for one am getting tired seeing Adelson,s ugly kisser at the top of page.

      It would seem that the tide has turned and is on the way out , taking the flotsam and jetsam of the lobby with it and Americans can get on with running their nation without the interference of these 5th columner,s who show their allegiance to a foreign entity.

  • Azaria's conviction will end a totalitarian ideology
    • Azaria will be found guilty and given a pardon followed quickly by a promotion.Israel needs it,s idf thugs to be committed to "getting the job done " a euphemism (in Israel ) for "resolving "the demographic problem , a euphemism , (in Israel) for getting rid of the droves of Arabs , who make life uncomfortable for Israel,s Ubermensch.

    • "Goldberg would defend the klling of 3 kids on a beach in Gaza by accusations of blood libel but Bennett blames the kids. "Maghlawatan

      Not sure if you have been watching CNN who are broadcasting puke inducing hypocritical condemnations of Syrian/Russian slaughter of children in play grounds.I naturally condemn these atrocities but am aghast at the level of attention given , especially when these hypocrites at CNN spent most of their time during the Gaza 2014 Lawn mowing ops , defending Israel,s right to defend itself and ignoring Israeli crimes.

      2 cases in point.

      1, Samantha ( give me )Power is busy at the UN asking the Russian FM the following , "Is there no crime you will not commit in Syria such as bombing civilians , many of them children . Have you no shame."

      This from the apologist for Israel,s abundance of war crimes.Too much.

      2, Josh Earnest (I believe ) is almost animated in his condemnation of the killing of three kids in a playground , as he should be but recall how deeply disturbed he was(nt) when Israeli naval forces slaughtered 4 Palestinian Boys playing on a beach in Gaza , not to mention the bombing of UN shelters that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of civilians.Mum,s the word at CNN when Israel is involved.

      Do these people truly think everyone in their audience is a moron or is suffering from stunted vision.

  • Theresa May adopts a definition of anti-Semitism that demonizes Israel's critics
    • I wonder if Mrs May will provide the funding for extra prisons and Judges and police /prison officers etc to apply these laws.

      Will she be able to influence the EU now that Britain is to all intents and purposes out of the circle.

      These laws , pushed by the zionist influence in Britain will only serve to demonstrate to the brit in the street that Israel has far to much influence in "their " sovereign nation.Imagine the blow back when young British students are sent to gaol in the hundreds.The numbers opposing Israel will grow exponentially and none to soon.

      Keep up your resistance Israel.You are on the way out and good riddance.

  • 44% of Israelis support annexing West Bank; half of those favoring annexation think Palestinians shouldn't be given equal rights
    • "The term is Palestinians, not Arabs." rosross

      Agreed but doesn,t fit in this case as I was simply quoting nietandyahoo when he referred to "Arabs heading to the polls in droves".

      Recall ?.

    • Netanyahoo is in a difficult position.If Israel is to remain the only democracy in the ME then he cannot annex the WB until 50.00000000001 % of "Israelis " vote for it .Some people might point out that Israeli Jews represent only 80 % of the population and so it would not be a democratic vote.Worry not , a member of the Knesset has already addressed that and has plans to prevent the droves of Arabs from voting. This would preserve the Only democracy in the ME , aaaand save Israel,s Jews from standing in the same line as droves of Arabs .

      QED .It just needs some creative zionist thinking.

  • Jared Kushner's family foundations gave $325,000 to Israeli army support group
    • "thanks mooser! when i said ‘these’ i meant you are not the only person who does it, although it is relatively rare."annie.

      Mooser , a little tip . Annie likes her links well done.

    • "(Jared Kushner had me fired from the New York Observer in 2007 after he had taken over the newspaper. I bear him no malice; I had greater freedom on my own, and was able to partner with Adam Horowitz a year later.) PW

      We at MW are eternally grateful to Kushner for his contribution to the creation of this site. Such incredible foresight.

  • Israel lobby resorting to censorship and blacklisting as it loses control of mainstream discourse
    • The folly of Zionism!!.

      Zionists believe that bullying has served them well for decades and will continue to do so into the future.This is their greatest error.

      They will insult anyone who opposes in any small way their criminal behaviour and in doing so will generate more and more opponents who will in turn speak out with greater intensity.Israel is playing a game of harikari - (ritual suicide by self-disembowelment on a sword .) and will have no one to blame but itself.

      I think will grab a bottle of wine , a bag of popcorn and a deck chair and enjoy the show.

  • On '60 Minutes,' Stahl is positive about BDS and suggests Netanyahu is anti-American
    • "Did you ever think that maybe the pessimists have a habit of being wrong about Israel? No one would have predicted that it would become one of the most diverse states on Earth, a first world country that leads the world in everything from tech to art "hopknee

      Yup all that and right at the top of the list of least liked , or was that most hated "states "on earth.Seems as if the optimists lost this one to the pessimists.

      "Maybe that’s why your message isn’t very well received."hopknee.

      You sound like someone who knows all about not being well received .

  • Israel advocates worry Trump's pick for State has anti-Israel bias
    • Give him a
      break.He is trying to Putin as many appearances as possible.


      "Israel has just days to launch a military strike and stop Iran from developing a nuclear bomb, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations has warned.

      The deadline was set by outspoken former envoy John Bolton, who claimed that time was running out for the West to crush Tehran’s atomic ambitions.

      He said Iran is planning to bring its first Bushehr reactor online on Saturday, when a shipment of nuclear fuel will be loaded into the plant’s core.

      At that point, he said it would be too late for Israel to attack the facility because it would spread radiation and affect innocent Iranian civilians."bolton.

      Like he gave a rat,s ass about Iranian civillians.

      Then this---same article.

      "Mr Bolton blasted Russia’s role in the development of the plant. ‘The idea of being able to stick a thumb in America’s eye always figures prominently in Moscow,’ he said."

      Trump /Tillerson will have to keep Bolton well away from any projects involving Russia.I have to believe , Putin has a good memory.

      Kushner and Bolton ---God help the Palestinian people.

  • Unsettle Zionism, champion humanity
  • Jewish brawl on CNN signals breakup of the pro-Israel monolith in the Trump era
    • Schumley Boteach is gathering his 2 billion congregation to destroy Boeing !!!.

      "That’s why I was so sorely disappointed to see Boeing selling its soul for $17 billion to Iran. This is blood money, and Boeing knows ".SB

      Read more at ,

    • "Given the huge number of resulting American jobs and spin-offs and Trump’s stated objective of putting Americans back to work, the possible implications are obvious, beginning with a very unhappy Israel."misterioso

      Not to worry , nuttyahoo already addressing this issue.

      "'There are ways, various ways of undoing it,' Netanyahu says on '60 Minutes.' Contradicting his remarks from before deal was signed, prime minister says nixing deal won't spur Iran to rush toward bomb.

      Since he became prime minister in April 2009 and particularly in the year before the deal between Iran and world powers was signed in July 2015, Netanyahu has warned dozens of times against Iran's intention of attaining nuclear weapons. Netanyahu even warned before the deal was signed that the Iranians were close to having enough moderately enriched uranium to enable them to rush toward a bomb quickly, once they make that decision.

      On "60 Minutes," Netanyahu reversed his position. He claimed that if the nuclear deal is canceled Iran will not rush toward nuclear weapons. He stressed that even before the deal, Iran was deterred from making such a breakout. "I think Iran didn’t rush to the bomb before there was a deal… because they were afraid of retribution," he told Stahl. "

      I see Trump giving bibi the boot if he f---s with the US chances of acquiring such a deal. Israel,s image will definitely plummet if 10,s of thousands of jobs go to the UK or France or dare I say i t---Russia.

      Keep up the good work bibi.The US,s bestest friend.

    • "I’m more interested in knowing why Jared Kushner shit-canned Phil. " jackduh

      You should get out more often jackduh.

      Btw , you should thank Kushner for unwittingly creating MONDOWEISS.

    • Still don’t know why Keith is still allowing to post on a site where antisemitism is alleging not permitted. "Hopknee.

      Poor Hoppy ,desperately seeking antisemitism .

      He seeks it here , he seeks it there.That zionist seeks it everywhere.Is it in heaven , is it in hell .He seeks so hard he can no longer spell.

  • 'Love thy neighbor as thyself' -- Really?
    • "I’ve never stolen anything, I don’t live on stolen land. Unless you consider all of Israel to be “stolen”."jon s

      The Palestinian legal owners of their land were not asked if they agreed to give it to someone else , you for instance , so it is effectively "stolen Land.No one can undo a crime.You cannot unring a bell.

      Get used to it Jon S , you live on stolen land.As to claiming you never stolen anything---pull the other one.

    • "if israelis can invent the cherry tomato they could lead the world in square food " Annie.

      Served on a square plate , no doubt.

      Then the Israelis can claim they invented the term , "Three squares " but that does not apply to the citizens of Gaza.

  • 'NYT' bias amazes: long article about online incitement in Israel/Palestine only blames Palestinians
    • "I assume that in your country, too, the police and the army are different forces" Jon S

      In normal democracies , while ,separate institutions , the Army and police have a common goal, that of defending the nation they serve and it,s democracy.This where Israel parts ways with normal democracies.

      Your Army and Police serve to oppress the Palestinians while stealing their lands to give illegal settlers such as yourself a plot to squat on.Some police , some army.You must be very proud.

    • Speaking of Israeli incitement !!!.

      "Doubling down on Netanyahu's Election Day race-baiting, David Bitan says: 'I'd rather the Arabs won't go to the polls in droves, and won't come to the polls at all.' Arab lawmakers respond: 'Bitan says what Netanyahu thinks.'

      Isaac Herzog, the chairman of the Zionist Union and the head of the opposition, accused Bitan of calling to take away voting rights from minorities, "just like the top anti-Semites in Europe did in the past to the Jewish people."

      "The disease of racism has metastasized in the heart of Israeli society, and is embarrassing both right and left-wing voters," he added.

      Former Prime Minister Ehud Barak tweeted: "Bibitan, his master's voice, briefly reveals the truth about the direction in which we are led. It's popular now, but when we go closer we'll see an abyss." Bitan tweeted back: "It's best if you don't preach to us from your cozy home in the U.S."

      Joint List MK Yousef Jabareen called for Bitan to be fired for his "racist remarks." "How would the political establishment in France had responded if a senior politician said he'd rather Jews not show up in the polls?" he said. "

      read more:

      This is the true face of Jon ,s ,s historic Homeland..A nation of racists and bigots , not to mention murderers and thieves.Jon s must be comfortable there as he chooses to stay.

    • "Do you know about this? " Maghlawatan

      Thanks for that.I will get my local club to put some jerseys together and find a way to get them to the folks in Derry.

      "This is GAA for anyone unfamiliar with it" Maghlawatan.

      This sport has been in existence for centuries and became an official org in the late 1880,s .It is an amateur game played at a professional level.The players are not paid.This is truly " the beautiful Game". Apologies to all supporters of other sports.

      Thanks for the video.

    • "It was played in Shangri La. MTA won 2-1" Mag.


    • "Of course the pukey Shaked would if challenged categorise the “death to” and “kill all” chants from these supporters as simply sporting high spirits and as coming from the mouths of Israeli Jews can never be classified as incitement or racism"0ssinev

      Quite so.Take Jon S above who took the time to correct my error re la familia /TA but passed on the opportunity to condemn shaked for her La familiarity with racist thugs.

      We shall have to deprogram the Dundalk team on return.I am sure they were treated to all that is good in Israel.That shouldn,t have taken too long

      I had seen the wonderful welcome Celtic gave to the football thugs from zioville. I will check out that link you provided on storyville.Thanks

    • Sorry , OT .

      To our shame , today an Irish soccer team , Dundalk is hosting the racist soccer team from Israel,s capital ---Tel Aviv maccabi .This is the team that is associated with , "La Familia " a group with whom Israel,s Justice minister Ayaled Shaked has been seen sitting with as they hold up signs declaring , "Death To Arabs" and chanting the same.

      The Ireland Palestine Solidarity Campaign will hold a " Cead Mile Failte for these bigots and hopefully it will put them off their game.

      I look forward to a resounding defeat for TA .

    • Not only does the NYT article not quote articles of incitement by Israelis , it never even suggests that any such events ever happen.Baker perpetuates the myth that Israelis are the victims ---always.

      Thanks for the article James.

  • Defending Ellison, Jewish writers publish 'apartheid' description of Israel in 'Slate' and 'Washington Post'
    • "Finally, let me note how obnoxious it is that this discussion is so dominated by Jewish voices " .PW

      Have to agree but if a few mega wealthy Jewish Israel firsters , (Saban/Adelson et al ) can dictate/buy US FP , then it is appropriate that patriotic American Jews should retrieve it for their fellow Americans , if that is what it takes.

  • ADL's Greenblatt is the one who needs to express 'contrition' for accusation of Keith Ellison
    • "Still, all you’ve demonstrated, again — those posts I’ve gotten — is how really disingenuous you are, and how tribal — certainly the most tribal here ." Broadside

      You can,t be serious.Are you suggesting that Mooser is more tribal than , Mayhem/Yonah/dabaker et al.

      I would venture that the casual reader here would assume Mooser is a raving antisemitic self hating Jew --certainly the worst here .Your post would have been a far more credible mea culpa , had you left out the last para.

    • Here is report from haaretz on Greenblatt,s claims that antisemitism in the USA is at 1930,s level.

      "Clearly referring to Steve Bannon, the controversial former head of Breitbart News who was recently appointed senior counsel to the U.S. president-elect, Greenblatt said: “And now one of the main cheerleaders of this movement will sit in the West Wing, literally down the hall from the Oval Office, in just a few weeks, just steps away from the president’s son-in-law.” Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is an Orthodox Jew."Greenblatt

      Greenblatt does not tell his audience that Kushner has donated large amounts of money to the illegal squatter project including to some of the most violent of the settler scum.

      "Among organizations and institutions in the West Bank that receive funding from the Kushner family, the leading beneficiary is American Friends of Beit El Yeshiva. Located in one of the more hard-line, ideological settlements, Beit El Yeshiva received $20,000 from the Kushner family in 2013.

      The president of American Friends of Beit El Yeshiva, whose offices are located in Forest Hills, New York, is David Friedman, Trump’s senior adviser on Israel affairs. Friedman, who has served as Trump’s real estate lawyer for the past 15 years and is considered to be very close to the president-elect, has expressed interest in being the next U.S. ambassador to Israel." Haaretz

  • Israeli forces surround ancient Jerusalem cemetery, prevent Palestinian burial
    • Just when you thought the zionist entity could go no lower , they come up with a new low.These people are truly depraved but hopefully one day soon zionism will be buried in lime so there is not one trace left.Zionism is runner-up to Nazism in the contest for most evil ideology ever to poison this earth.

  • US Senate quickly passed the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act
    • The US senate will not concern itself with the theft of land "abandoned by Palestinians ".

      "Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Sunday that the state will ask the High Court of Justice to delay the evacuation of the illegal Amona outpost by 30 days.

      The High Court has ordered the outpost evacuated by December 25, ruling that it was built on privately owned Palestinian land.

      Netanyahu said in a meeting with Likud ministers that the delay is meant to allow the state to prepare alternative housing for the residents of the outpost on nearby land, which was abandoned by Palestinians.

      Israel's Civil Administration in the West Bank said Friday that it intends to relocate the residents of Amona to land deemed abandoned by its Palestinian owners for a period of eight months until a permanent solution is found.

      Attorney General Avichai Mendelblit has recently asserted that the absentee property north of the outpost could be used to temporarily accommodate Amona's 40 families.

      According to an initial estimate by the governing coalition, the temporary relocation will cost 50 million shekels ($13 million).

      Amona's residents protested the move in a letter to Netanyahu. "It's simply idiotic that the state would spend 50 million shekels on this, for eight months, after which Amona's residents will be expelled yet again," the letter said. "The State of Israel will have left behind people who have been expelled twice, wasted 50 million shekels and scarred a mountain." haaretz

      One musn,t inconvenience Jewish Illegal squatters .It,s quite ok if the owners of the land are inconvenienced ---they are not Jews .Abandoned is a euphemism for expelled at the point of a gun.Zionist self delusion sans frontiere.

  • 'Make this my dream as well' -- in historic appearance, Palestinian offers one-state vision to a NY temple
    • Wait until smiley boteach hears about this .There is going to be hell to play.No one is going to de legitimize or destroy the one and only Jewish state.

      Thanks for the article.It makes good reading but given the arrival of Trump and his coterie of zionists and their supporters , who is going to enforce the 1ss.In Northern Ireland the British Gov in cooperation with the Republic took on the task of making the peace process work by pressuring both sides .This does not appear to be marginally possible in Israel.Can you envisage a Palestinian being a member of the "inner circle" or heading up a military brigade.

  • Video: Israelis look forward to the Trump presidency
    • "Hopefully , the Palestinian Authority will go out of existence and the Jews can rule Judea /Samaria."

      Aussie come lately zionist has all the answers.Too bad the interviewer did not ask him if the Jewish people would be offering citizenship to all the inhabitants of his Jewish ruled democracy.

      These scum are truly without morals or ethics or humanity.The sooner these criminals are dealt with the better.

    • "Israelis are the most self-absorbed, paranoid, bite the hand that feeds them people I’ve ever me "Marnie

      I believe you meant to say Isareli Jews .I cannot imagine The "Other " forgotten 20% of Israel,s citizens being quite so contemptible , albeit it , they have far more reason to complain than those who plonked themselves down on someone else,s land after ethnically cleansing them at the point of a gun.

      And then they ask, "why do they hate us so".

  • Finally, a US tribunal on the Iraq War!
    • "Like having atheists kick off a tribunal on all the harm organized religion has caused. "DB

      Or having zionists kick off a tribunal on whether or not anti zionism is antisemitism.

  • The link between Israel's forest fires and the 'muezzin bill'
  • 'Tis the season, to boycott!
    • Sandra llap when you claim that Israel has sovereignty over land it took in a war --and no , it was not defensive as has been shown to you but you choose to ignore those facts , just as you ignored my request that you check out the term , "inadmissibility of territory gained through war" you are not inviting kind and comforting responses and your Jewishness has sfa to do with it.You insult others here when you suggest that they are only opposed to criminal Jewish behaviour.

      If you wish to be taken seriously , then have the good manners to check out the links you are provided with and respond.Otherwise you will be seen for what you are --a dishonest apologist for zionist crimes which does not entitle you to nice cuddly treatment--whether or not you are Jewish.

      Now about my 3rd request to you to check out the following , "The inadmissibility territory gained through war".

      If you do not have a credible response , then dont bother responding with your usual claim that you are the victim of hatred.That is a repulsive claim.

    • "and in particular, you might appreciate the lively sparring match I had herein with TedDruch). - " Sandrallap

      You so called sparring match was a debate between a far right wing zionist nutjob (druch) who claims all Palestinians want to kill all the Jews and you, who affords legitimate ownership of land Israel gained in a war of defence (untrue) .You also conceded to this druch character that the Palestinians are mostly to blame.You also did not haul him up when he stated that Palestinians do not want peace.You conceded that the Palestinian leadership bore all the blame but by omission you gave nutandyahoo /Barak/Peres/Olmert/Shamir. et al a pass.Your sparring match was more like two white slave owners arguing the degree of punishment that should be meted out to a black slave.

      Nothing there to pat yourself on the back fo.

      Instead of sparring with those here who support equality and justice for all , you might try following the links they provide and enlighten yourself as to what exactly Israel has been doing for the last 60 +years.Some of our commenters are extremely knowledgeable Finding the truth can be very liberating.

      You can start by googling "Inadmissibility of territory gained through war".

    • "That’s all very well, amigo, but what about ‘self-determination in the historic homeland’?"MHughes976

      The Historic Homeland definitely sucks.

    • For your benefit Sandra llap

      "To the benefit of the many not-very-bright zionist wannabe apologists who read this blog assiduously, I decided to offer a clear and simple method of arguing the case for Israel. This clear and simple method has been distilled from a life spent listening to and reading Zionist propaganda. It is easy to follow and results are guaranteed or your money back.

      So don't hesitate! Take advantage NOW of this revolutionary rhetorical system that will make YOU a great apologist for Israel in less time than it takes to shoot a Palestinian toddler in the eye.

      Ready? 1..2..3..GO!

      You need to understand just one principle:

      The case for Israel is made of four propositions that should always be presented in the correct escalating order.

      We rock
      They suck
      You suck
      Everything sucks

      That's it. Now you know everything that it took me a lifetime to learn. The rest is details; filling in the dotted lines.

      You begin by saying how great Israel is. Israel want peace; Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East; the desert blooms; kibutz; Israelis invented antibiotics, the wheel, the E minor scale; thanks to the occupation Palestinians no longer live in caves; Israel liberates Arab women; Israel has the most moral army in the world, etc.

      This will win over 50% of your listeners immediately. Don't worry about the factual content. This is about brand identity, not writing a PhD. Do you really think BP is 'beyond petroleum'?

      Then you go into the second point: They suck. Here you talk about the legal system of Saudi Arabia, gay rights in Iran, slave trade in the Sudan, Mohammad Atta, the burqa, Palestinians dancing after 9/11, Arafat's facial hair, etc.

      There is only one additional principle you need to understand here. It will separate you from the amateurs. You need to know your audience. If you've got a crowd already disposed to racist logic, go for it with everything you have. But if you get a liberal crowd, you need to sugar coat the racism a bit. Focus on women rights, human rights, religious tolerance, "clash of civilizations", terrorism, they teach their children to hate, etc. Deep down your audience WANTS to enjoy racism and feel superior. They just need the proper encouragement so they can keep their sophisticated self-image. Give them what they crave and they'll adore you! But be careful not to 'mix n match,' because it will cost you credibility.

      When you're done, there will always be dead-enders insisting that abuse of gays in Iran does not justify ethnic cleansing in Palestine. Take a deep breath, and pull the doomsday weapon: You suck!

      You're a Jew-hater, Arab-lover, anti-Semite, you're a pinko, a commie, a dreamer, a naive, a self-hater, you have issues, your mother worked for the Nazis, Prince Bandar buys you cookies, you forgot you were responsible for the holocaust, etc. The more the merrier. By the time you end this barrage, only a handful would be left standing. For mopping them up, you use the ultimate postmodern wisdom: Everything sucks.

      War, genocide, racism, oppression are everywhere. From the Roma in Italy to the Native-Americans in the U.S., the weak are victimized. Why pick on Israel? It's the way of the world. Look! Right is only in question between equals in power; the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. Ethics, schmethics. Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Eat, drink! Carpe diem! The Palestinians would throw us into the sea if they could. Ha ha!

      Trust me, that's as far as words can go. If you followed this method faithfully, you've done your work. You should leave the few who are still unconvinced to the forces of order.

      You are now ready to
      apologize for Israel like a pro.

      Posted by Gabriel @ 1:44 pm 47 Comments

    • "For I would like to think that a boycott & other non-violent tactics, towards *reasonable* goals, could be effective, just as it had been with South Africa. " sandra llap

      Allow me to remind you that the goal in SA was one state with justice and equality for all it,s citizens.It required that the White minority give up their control and stop breaking international law.Me thinks that was a reasonable goal.Don,t you agree ?.

    • "Well, first- what makes you think that I’m not also arguing with the other side? (See the comments on these 2 links, for some examples"Sandra llap

      I took the trouble of checking both of the links you provided and no surprise , the second one had only 2 comments , neither of which had anything to do with arguing with the zionist side.

      The first link had one comment ---the following screed --is that you???.

      "-Areas heavily populate by Arabs in the West Bank and part of the land inhabited by Arabs from Israel will be governed by Jordan.

      -Areas populated by Jews in the west bank will be included in Israel.

      -Both Arabs and Jew will remain in their current homes, villages and towns- nobody will have to move physically. Nobody will be transferred. The only think they will change is the government less".

    • Sandra , you bet I am motivated by hatred---hatred of the oppression of a people who have been the victims of a vile aggressor for over 60 years. What is also repulsive is that this vile oppressor claims to be the victim. What is further repulsive is your apologising for said vile aggressor.

      Have you no shame.

      Go back to your handlers Sandra and tell them that the average MW poster is not some uninformed sponge for zionist hasbara or you can stick around but dont expect any red roses or Belgian chocolate. As you sow , so shall you reap.

    • “The reason Israel has that territory in the first place, is because it was gained from winning an unprovoked war of self-defense.” Sandra.

      So what , are you not familiar with the term , "the inadmissibility of territory gained through war , regardless of who started it" .

      "The second preambular reference states:

      "Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security."

      John McHugo says that by the 1920s, international law no longer recognized that a state could acquire title to territory by conquest.[17] Article 2 of the Charter of the United Nations requires all members to refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.[18]

      Michael Lynk says that article 2 of the Charter embodied a prevailing legal principle that there could be "no title by conquest". He says that principle had been expressed through numerous international conferences, doctrines and treaties since the late 19th Century. Lynk cites the examples of the First International Conference of American States in 1890; the United States Stimson Doctrine of 1932; the 1932 League of Nations resolution on Japanese aggression in China; the Buenos Aires Declaration of 1936; and the Atlantic Charter of 1941.[19] Surya Sharma says that a war in self-defense cannot result in acquisition of title by conquest. He says that even if a war is lawful in origin it cannot exceed the limits of legitimate self-defense.[20]

    • "Well, I guess this doesn’t make everyone happy… Israelis who had been hoping to move to Palestine wouldn’t be able to, and Palestinians who don’t want any Jews in Palestine wouldn’t be happy with this either."Sandra.

      "Jews who had been hoping to go to Palestine and Palestinians who dont want them there".Sandra

      Note the sophistry.No mention of Jews who want to live in a Jewish only apartheid so called democracy.Why would any Palestinian want those supremacist bigots in their midst.Why would you support such a state. What if Palestinians want a secular state where all it,s citizens are treated equally ,but ??.

      Those heretofore illegal squatters who burn olive trees and harass the indigenous natives on a daily basis don,t like your idea of LLAP. Are you willing to don a uniform and remove them and arrange their trip to Israel proper ---wherever the F--k that is.

      Sandra , you are not only barking up the wrong tree , you are in the wrong forest. Visit J, Post or TOI and present your version of a peace proposal.Remember to leave yourself room to retreat to safety.

    • "The problem I have with the current BDS movement isn’t its tactics, but rather that its goals are unrealistic (i.e., the “right of return” of “diaspora” Palestinians, being one of them). But I would be O.K. with a boycott that had goals which were more reasonable (such as say, halting the expansions of the Jewish settlements in the occupied territories). "Sandra LLAP

      This all nonsense.The GOI (voted for by an ever increasing majority of repulsive Israeli Jews ) has no intention of giving back one sq inch of the territory it stole so you are going to end up with a 1SS whether you like it or not .Had Israel agreed to the Arab Peace plan , the issue of ROR would have been settled long ago but it appears that achieving the "Greater Israel " fantasy is what Israel wants so stop claiming BDS wants to destroy Israel.Why would they waste their time when the Zionist GOI is achieving that without help form anyone else.BDS is simply calling for Israel to obey international law.

      Better go complain to the GOI and it,s repulsive supporters .

      BTW , thanks for the refresher course in zionist hasbara .We have not been getting too much of that lately.

  • Sanders says fight among Democrats is to go 'beyond identity politics' and stand for all working people
  • Global outcry appears to stop Israeli demolition of Palestinian village to make way for Jewish settlers
    • Obviously people are getting unfairly upset.This action is forced on Jewish people to enable them to survive.Do you Antisemites have a problem with the survival of the Jewish people.

      Right Yonah??.

      "Israel’s sins against the Palestinians is ongoing and at the core of any analysis of how to move forward regarding israel, there must be some deep reckoning with the palestinians.
      On the other hand, the machiavellian ways of navigating the world of survival, that’s just the nature of survival. - See more at:

      that,s it Yonah---blame Machiavelli.

  • Leading pro-Israel groups dare not criticize Trump lest they lose access to White House
  • If American universities ignore attacks on Muslim students, who will defend them?
  • Trump aide blows off Zionist gala, and Dershowitz warns that politicizing Israel means 'we could lose'
    • "The movement reconfirmed it’s commitment to Palestine. " Jon S

      Shouldn,t that read---"The movement reconfirmed it,s commitment to get rid of Palestine.

    • "What a cesspool mw comments has turned into. Who needs to go to Facebook for false news when we can come here for false history." YF

      I have to ask , why you keep coming here if you seek the truth.Surely a man of your intellectual prowess and commitment to seeking the truth , the whole truth and nothing but the truth would be far better rewarded driving up the "hits " at J,Post or some such purveyor of the real truth ---as you see it , instead of contributing to the continued existence of a cesspool of liars and narrators of false history.

      Why do you torture yourself so.

    • "The nascent Trump administration is working overtime now, and partying may not be on their agenda right now ".jackduh

      Are you suggesting that the "Trump administration " blew off the rightwing zionist group in favour of the citizens of the USA. Hmmm, not a good start , eh.

    • “amigo”, if establishment Jews are the ones specifying the who the “renegade Jews” are can we call it antisemitism? No, it’s just calling out bad people who happen to be Jewish."Mooser

      I was simply pointing out the existence of a myriad of groups calling for the end of all antisemitism and now along comes dersh/Yaron London et al , and states that some level of anti semitism is good/ necessary for Israel. Kinda puts ADL and others in a difficult position.

      "BTW, what happened to Muslim anti-semitism in America? Disappeared overnite when antisemitism became the property of the alt-right, didn’t it? " Mooser.

      Yup , victory of might over right.

    • So all those seeking to stamp out all Antisemitism will be labelled Antisemitic.

      Only in zioland.

    • ADL to revise it,s mission statement .

      The new goal is to preserve the appropriate level of antisemitism .A new committee has been formed to identify what is the right level of Antisemitism and elect a chairperson to lead this highly important task.Israel cannot survive without the existence of Antisemitism.Jews everywhere should realise that all antisemitism is not bad. The new committee may propose dropping the claim that anti Israel speech is not antisemitic.

      All groups whose goal to date was to stamp out all antisemitism are to stand down until new guidelines are available from the appropriate authorities.Some groups will be disbanded and their resources directed to other tasks.

  • Zionists embrace of Trump and Bannon is no surprise
    • "The inability of present day israel to present a vision for the future regarding its core issue does not give license to ignore the circumstances of Israel’s birth ."YF

      Yonah , it is not about Israel,s inability.It is about Israel,s greed for more land on which to give birth to a Jews only nation in their so called "Jewish Homeland".

      You are an apologist for that, as evidenced by your facile references to motivations of survival.Get the hell off someone else s land and you will survive.Keep wandering and gobbling up more and more land and your quest for survival will end badly.Nobody is forcing Israel to wander anymore.

    • "Recall that American jews went 71-24 for hillary and even orthodox jews went 56-39 for hillary. -" YF

      Don,t suppose Hillary,s subservience to the Israeli Lobby / Haim Saban et al had any connection , eh.

      Speaking of facile comments.

  • General under consideration by Trump for Defense has slammed Israel for impending 'apartheid'
  • I'm not worried about anti-Semitism
    • "reminds me of what my mother used to tell me about the dangers of marrying never know when the other side of the family would make an anti smite slight."mccohen

      reminds me of what my mother used to tell me about the dangers of marrying "in" . You never know when the other side of the family would accuse you of making a " slight smite ".

    • "A great example of why the guardian is laying in the gutter rotting. duh baker

      Agreed , The Guardian should not be wasting it,s time and effort on the opinions of a group that represents less than 2 % of the US population.

    • "So, these evangelicals, they are too stupid to know that there are all different shades of jews in Israel, from light to dark." duh baker

      They start out as light Jews but end up as quite dark Jews. Something in the ziocaine , I guess.

  • Donald Trump picks anti-Muslim intel officer to be national security adviser
    • “‏@NYCMayor This week I told President-elect Trump that there are 900 Muslim Americans in the NYPD protecting us every day” Mooser.

      To which Trump replied --"I hope none of these terroreeeests have been sent to Israel on anti terror training."What would Sheldon say if he found out.

  • 'Welcome to the bi-national state': Livni says Knesset bill to legalize settlement outposts sets stage for annexing West Bank
    • Livni , playing good cop but we all know what she really thinks.She is the same as her forerunners , Rabin/Peres who played the same part in Israel,s fake democracy since it,s unfortunate creation in 1948.

      She like Herzog is a hypocrite and is as transparent as a newly cast pane of glass.Keep up the good work Tipsy--the 1 SS is on it,s way and will swallow zionism and all it,s enablers and the world will be a far better place when it is dead and buried.

  • A most mournful gathering
  • Challenging anti-Semitism and the Trump presidency
    • The new antisemitism ala the dersh.

      "All of a sudden it’s not so terrible to be anti-Semitic. Suddenly it’s excusable as long as you hate Muslims and Arabs and “love Israel.” The Jewish and Israeli right has issued a sweeping amnesty to anti-Semitic lovers of Israel – yes, there is such a thing, and they’re en route to taking power in the United States.

      So now we know: Not just pornography but also anti-Semitism is a matter of geography and price. Right-wing American anti-Semites are no longer considered anti-Semites.

      The definition has been updated: From now on, anti-Semites are only found on the left. Roger Waters, a courageous man of conscience without stain, is an anti-Semite. Steve Bannon, a declared racist and closet anti-Semite who has been appointed chief strategist in the Trump White House, is a friend of Israel.Gideon Levy

      read more:

  • Trump is bad because Israeli Jews will love him and US Jews will see it -- NYT columnist
    • "Phil Weiss is no friend to the Jews." YF

      We get it Yonah. Anyone who is not your friend is an antisemite.

      Got to be honest with you Yonah, if the Jews roamed around your archives for a short while many would accuse you of antisemitism.

    • " There will be nothing for American former Jews to do but hand over all their assets, all their influence, any power they may have, to the Zionists "Mooser.

      The USA will never be the same again.CNN will have to replace circa 90% of it,s analysts/anchors .Wolf Blitzer will end up working a blue collar job on minimum wage .

      Where do I sign up to become a Zionist.I could use a windfall or two. Wouldn,t say no to little influence and /or power either.

  • Trump's path to 'most pro-Israel' president paved by bankruptcy expert and real estate attorney who once lived in a settlement
    • "Try saying, ‘Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’." jackduh.

      Try adding "war criminal and chief of Israeli state terrorism".

      There, fixed it for you.

    • "That’s not quite the same as ‘once lived in a settlement’ (as if that carries a stigma)." jackduh

      I agree, it,s either lived as a squatter or learned from squatters but it does carry the same stigma, "Illegal".

  • 'The era of the Palestinian state is over' -- Israeli right celebrates Trump win
    • Naftali Bennett --newest proponent of a Bi National State.

    • "The distance between bibi’s government and the israel majority it represents and liberal Zionist American jews who voted with the minorities against trump will only increase as a result of the “hug”." YF

      Do explain Yonah---what exactly is a "Liberal Zionist". Isn,t that a contradiction in terms.

  • Jerusalem mayor says he will demolish Palestinian homes if gov't dismantles settlement outpost
    • Yonah , the only one inviting comment is the Mayor of illegally occupied Jerusalem who supports the illegal occupation of the West Bank where there are one set of laws for illegal Jewish Israeli settlers , ( no non Jews allowed ) and another for the legal inhabitants.

      Go bitch to him.

  • 'Because of the high volume of emails, at this time we are unable to respond'
    • "Because of the high volume of emails, at this time we are unable to respond’ "

      Just like my internet provider.Sales dept/ accts payable always fully staffed.Customer complaints dept---well, not so much.

  • Lanny Davis's power seder, dedicated to Palestinian-Israeli peace, and Pee Wee Reese
    • Is this the fake peace get together you are referring to.If you attended then Gideon levy wrote a very apt article in Haaretz with you in mind..You must have missed that , eh Jon S.

      "Opinion Real Leftists Won’t Go to the Ceremony for Yitzhak Rabin

      The Labor Party is putting together the event, but that party is in cahoots with Benjamin Netanyahu and the right-wing parties that don’t care about the occupation.
      Gideon Levy Nov 03, 2016 1:59 AM

      We have to recognize it: Israel has no opposition, no alternative, no left and no peace camp. Except for the Joint List of Arab parties, Meretz and a few courageous NGOs, everyone is on the right. Everyone is Benjamin Netanyahu, everyone is Avigdor Lieberman, everyone is Naftali Bennett, everyone is a settler, everyone is Amona. And the Labor Party is part of this too.

      That’s why there’s no significance to the ceremony Labor is organizing. The party that remained silent during the lynching of Breaking the Silence and Hagai El-Ad isn’t a freedom fighter or democracy supporter. A party that’s trying to crawl into the government is part of the government. Most of the people who show up on Saturday will certainly have a firm opinion about the government. What does that have to do with Zionist Union, of which Labor is the main partner?

      We must not go to a ceremony that peddles the false picture that there’s a significant anti-occupation camp in Israel. When almost every day the army and Border Police execute desperate young men and women carrying scissors and knives, this square remains empty. When every night the Shin Bet security service and army abduct dozens of Palestinians from their beds, this square remains silent.

      When hundreds of prisoners sit in Israeli prisons without trial, this square is silent. When Israel holds dozens of bodies of Palestinians and does not return them to their families, this square is empty. And now people are coming to the square"Haaaretz GL

      read more:

  • The power of hasbara culture
    • "The League of Nations and the United Nations recognized the Jewish people as a distinctive unit. " YF

      The united nations did not recognise Jews as having the right to expel by force another ethnic group form their home of centuries.

  • 'Ruling class' must regard Trump's rise as response to 'ill conceived wars' -- Matthews
  • The frozen Chosen: In Chabon's 'Yiddish Policemen's Union' a Jewish state in Alaska (still) results in the burning of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem
    • "If I recall this is a detective story, the politics is just background, the normal machinations of detective fiction apply. I am tempted to reread, just to look through Palestinian eyes." Yonah

      Interesting how I never have to reread your posts to look through Jewish Eyes. Btw , dont let that temptation get the better of you.

  • H to Jake to Malcolm to Maggie to Haim to Huma -- resetting the discourse on Israel in 6 easy steps
    • "That’s why your activism sucks." hopknee.

      Hoppy , it sucked you in 7 times ( the same number of times you mentioned antisemitism )on this thread so far.

      You are getting desperate hoppy .Defending the indefensible sucks .

    • "Truly great reporting, Phil. Phil for Pulitzer Prize. " retired.

      PFPP---has a nice ring to it.

    • Thanks Dutch and Annie.

    • Israel writing Trump,s ME policies for him.

      "Trump's Israel Advisers Issue Position Paper on Israel, Middle East Conflict
      read more:

      Donald Trump’s two Israeli advisors, Jason Greenblatt and David Friedman, released on Wednesday a position paper outlining U.S. policy on Israel and offering recommendations on alternative solutions to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

      Greenblatt and Friedman were named as co-chairmen of the “Israel Advisory Committee” to Trump in July.

      The position paper proposes a number of changes to longstanding U.S. policy on Israel, if Trump is elected as president, including a pledge to veto any United Nations vote that unfairly single out Israel. cut off funds for the UN Human Rights Council, and ask the Justice Department to investigate coordinated attempts on college campuses to intimidate students who support Israel.

      With respect to the peace process, the U.S. would support direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians without preconditions, and will oppose all Palestinian, European and other efforts to bypass direct negotiations between parties in favor of an imposed settlement. If the two sides agree to return to the negotiation table, Trump would seek to “assist” the Israelis and the Palestinians in “reaching a comprehensive and lasting peace, to be freely and fairly negotiated between those living in the region.” haaretz

      There,s more , lots more and he is worse than Hilllary.,

    • Annie , many thanks but do I have to sign up to twitter to access.I am afraid I may end up a twittering twit but conversely , it might be worth the gamble.Who knows what treasures I might unearth.

    • Netanyahu was correct when he stated that "American can be easily moved".

      What an understatement.

      Does anyone know where ordinary folks can get access to these wiki leaks without having to scroll through gazillions of data.

  • Miserable night, bleak forecast
    • "It’s wherever you want it to be. Jot down the (greater) region in the Atheist Bibble [sic] and – voilà! – atheists the world over will have an Eternal Homeland to which to return. "eljay

      Will it be the Historic homeland. Do you know any revisionist historians who can conjure up a historiography that meets our needs.One problem --we can,t claim God gave it to us.We will have to stick with the "Higher Power " angle.

    • What about atheists , are they not entitled to have their own "One and only nation state of the atheist people".

      It could be a welcome refuge for Jewish atheists who are stripped of their Israeli citizenship because they are no longer considered real Jews.It could also be a haven for Catholics and Moslem's gone rogue.

      Don,t happen to know where there is a Land without people for a people without land , do you.

    • "now that we’ve figured out where the comments are landing we’re doing our best."Annie

      Annie I view that as progress and it is far better than where we were at this past weekend , not having a clue what was going on.I recognise that the work load of the moderators has effectively doubled and perhaps more so. Consequently I am willing to bear with what I hope will be a temporary inconvenience.

      Soldier on Annie --your efforts are most appreciated and this too will pass.

  • Five-year-old Palestinian boy banned from visiting father in Israeli prison
    • Just another example of the Israeli policy of creating enemies and ensuring the claim of eternal victim hood lives on.

      The zionist entity has no limits to the measures it will take to achieve this goal..

      Beating children after or before arresting them having broken into their homes at all hours of the night and keeping them locked up in open air pens in sub zero temps . Spraying their homes with skunk juice or throwing stones at them when on their way to school or alternatively standing by and allowing illegal squatters to beat them.

      I was going to say that Israel has lost it,s soul but did it ever have a soul.

  • 'Atlantic' editor says that Israel's 1948 expulsion of Palestinians was not 'a tragedy'
    • “Hophmi” don’t you see the splendid, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity which is knocking on the doorposts of your house? "Mooser.

      Mooser, your knocking on closed door posts.Hoppy never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.Besides , he is busy down in the sound proof cellar busily tapping away on his Israeli invented pc ensuring MW has a steady supply of life sustaining hits .

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