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Annie Robbins

Annie Robbins is Editor at Large for Mondoweiss, a mother, a human rights activist and a ceramic artist. She lives in the SF bay area. Follow her on Twitter @anniefofani

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  • Kovel's 'Overcoming Zionism' was ahead of its time
    • Yitzhak Shamir was not involved in Dir Yassin, he wasn’t even in the country…

      so the leader of a terrorist group is not implicated in a terrorist attack by that same group if they are out of the country at the time of the attack?

      the leaders of Zionism expressed the desire to live in peace with the Arabs

      jon -- please.

  • Philadelphia Jewish groups try to stop publication of article critical of Israel, insist on BDS training for Inquirer editors
  • Remembering Joel Kovel, a restless explorer
    • wow, thank you for finding us doctorbri, and commenting about kovel's visit to your honors class. it feels really special getting this first hand view. all your contributions, the few of them, are appreciated (by me).

    • that was so beautiful phil. when i ran across a tweet a few days ago that joel had passed, i felt this pang of sadness because i really adored what i knew of him, his voice, thoughts, stream of thoughts, through your 2012 interviews with him about his conversion (i will fix/edit that year in your text). i just adored him and thought, what a terrific loss for his wife.

      anyway, i read both the interviews slowly. then for some reason i read his wiki page, and was rather astounded there was no mention of his conversion, no mention of it at all or his spiritual path which seemed so vital to who he was and his whole outlook on life, and the times he spent in nicaragua and his long talks with his friend and guide Earl Kooperkamp.

      anyway, i registered on wiki just to add that but not being techie enough and a tad bashful. but anyone reading this, if you know how to edit his page, i hope someone at least makes mention of his spirituality, because once you're aware of it, it makes sense of everything about who he was.

      thanks phil. beautiful.

  • Netanyahu's cheap theatrics fall flat, but alas, he has an audience of one -- Trump
    • when the guy near him tries to tell him he's disrupting the meeting (city council i think) and the rabbi puts his hands up and says "you're disrupting my LIFE" he sounds just like woody allen.

    • you're such a go-getter kathleen! kudos to you for giving them hell about rice. andrea mitchel is a strange one. her response to the WH changing their announcement the other day from iran "has" nuke weapons program to "had" program she makes the effort to go full throttle on the WH for basically completely contradicting our own NIE intel and says absolutely nothing about the WH parroting netanyahu's claims (also claim changed) and not a word about israeli intel. not sure how you can report one without the other.

    • i'm so glad you liked the video jack. when i encountered it i was reminded of you, the crow-like cawing, like a jackdaw.

    • you are correct about Iran lying and here is the PBS News Hour backing you up.

      that pbs chooses to interview another hawkish neocon, who peddles himself as a so called "Dr" of "physics" (which he is not) is unsurprising. david albright is (notoriously) highly compromised. https://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/albright_david/

      A notable example of Albright’s controversial work is a May 2017 report he coauthored with Olli Heinonen of the neoconservative Foundation for Defense of Democracies that questioned whether Iran was “mass producing advanced gas centrifuges” in violation of international agreements, a claim that would buttress President Donald Trump‘s antagonism to Iran and opposition to the 2015 nuclear agreement. The basis for the article was a mistranslation from Persian of a statement by the head of Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization. According to Albright and Heinonen, this official said that Iran had “initiated” mass production of centrifuges; in fact, he only stated that Tehran had the “capacity” to do so. When confronted with the error, ISIS said they would “re-issue” the report yet stick to its original conclusions. Noted one observer: “In other words, the Good ISIS published a report based entirely on the mistaken belief that Iran had initiated the mass production of advanced uranium centrifuges, but after learning that Iran has not initiated the mass production of advanced uranium centrifuges, that report’s findings haven’t changed.”

      and there's a LOT more where that came from. check the link.

    • hauling over a ton of intelligence out of central Tehran without incident.

      you've got to be the most gullible person! have you even looked at what people are saying all over the internet? there's nothing new. speculation is they probably hacked into the IAEA and got their hands on stuff iran turned over in the run up to negotiations. the idea mossad went to some warehouse in tehran has been thoroughly debunked https://twitter.com/yarbatman/status/991064082215325697

      everyone says there's nothing new.

    • no agency would risk that much if it was only to gain old info and try and convince trump to void the ‘best bad deal’ Obama could make.

      what do you mean "risk that much"? do you mean their reputation. i think they want to convince trump so they'd do literally anything they thought they could get away with, it only has to look somewhat plausible. they don't have a lot of options. either a false flag trying to get iran to react, more bombings, more fake news. anything they do will be suspect because they have nothing new to work with. so, i think you're wrong. sometimes gov agencies just do what they're told.

      either way the jig is up. this is from i24news

    • just for you jack

    • jack, i dare you to find even one mention of iran in our 2006 archives.

  • The struggle of Palestinians is the struggle of Native Americans
    • but i read Barnet has not been majority labor since 74 or something. they had one rep on the last council and he lost this time or something. but the press went gonzo over it. did labor really expect to win in Barnet this time?

    • oldgeezer, i was googling around for the results of the election last night and noticed the framing of several articles about 'upcoming labour disappointment as it doesn't look like they'll win as many districts as they wanted' without really indicating who was in the lead. i thought, i guess they are still counting, but just seemed like a meme of 'labour loss' was being pushed and then from some districts that they lost (which i think were traditionally tory anyway, it said anti semitism might have been a factor. hmm.

      edit, trying to open your link and found this, exactly!

    • ”can often mean that a group of people is deprived of the right to use a valuable resource that they have known to have accessed for thousands of years.”
      I do not think that she means that members of her tribe have individually accessed these resources for thousands of years.

      she means that members of her tribe, both individually and as a group, have accessed the valuable resources of their land for thousands of years, and then cut off, deprived from access. the same can not be said of jews in palestine. for the most part, the vast majority of jews in the world made no effort to access the holy land for way more that thousand of years. and it's extremely likely the majority of those who stayed converted over the years and became palestinians a long long time ago. it is those (ex)jews along with the rest of palestinians who are now being denied access.

  • Young Jews won't cry over the end of the Zionist dream, Beinart says
    • Most such monies are provided by private donations through Israeli support organizations in the United States.

      not only that, most of that money is funneled through tax deductible charitable organizations, essentially ripping off the american public while building up the settlements. but, if congress recognizes the settlements as illegal, which they are, they could make those donations illegal in the same way it's illegal to funnel money to hamas or iran and any other entity we've sanctioned. in this way, i totally agree with beinart:

      We need Democratic politicians who are willing to say, if I’m elected president, not one cent of U.S. money will go to support the settlements. [huge applause]

  • IDF claims most Gazan casualties were 'accidental'
  • Flaming kites mark fifth Friday of Gaza protests
  • Las Vegas print shop refuses to print JVP banner over Israel politics
    • tzvia -- long time, good to hear your voice as always.

    • oldgeezer, check his archives. we've got our very own agent provocateur.

    • keith, speaking of getting sidetracked with lawsuits, this reminds me of the most fascinating keynote address by jules lobel, president of the center for constitutional rights, at a conference i attended on palestine. he spoke about how laws are changed by trials and lawsuits. often it is very gradually but many of our civil and voting legislation are hard won through trials and lawsuits most notably susan b anthony. https://www.fjc.gov/sites/default/files/trials/susanbanthony.pdf

      an organized strategy to win in the federal courts a recognition of what the women argued was their constitutional right to vote, guaranteed by the recently ratified Fourteenth Amendment.

      take for example the recent ACLU threat of a lawsuit challenging anti-BDS legislation in Kansas after requiring a public school teacher to pledge she wouldn’t boycott Israel violating her 1st amendment rights. i think kansas backed off.

    • hey echi, how about you contributing. write an article about it and send it in!

    • perhaps my meaning would have been clearer had a written "vs not being allowed to take it there" -- not being allowed to buy a coffee at Dunkin Donuts or visit a bespoke tailor. jon posted this link down thread https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Negro_Motorist_Green_Book

      African-American travelers faced hardships such as white-owned businesses refusing to serve them or repair their vehicles, being refused accommodation or food by white-owned hotels, and threats of physical violence and forcible expulsion from whites-only "sundown towns". Green founded and published the Green Book to avoid such problems, compiling resources "to give the Negro traveler information that will keep him from running into difficulties, embarrassments and to make his trip more enjoyable."[2]

      ....Before the legislative accomplishments of the Civil Rights Movement, black travelers in the United States faced major problems unknown to most whites. White supremacists had long sought to restrict black mobility, and were uniformly hostile to black strangers. As a result, simple auto journeys for black people were fraught with difficulty and potential danger. They were subjected to racial profiling by police departments ("driving while black" or "DWB"), sometimes seen as "uppity" or "too prosperous" just for the act of driving, which many whites regarded as a white prerogative.

    • Finally, if Starbucks doesn’t correct the situation and continues to exhibit racism against blacks, then, yes, blacks SHOULD boycott Starbucks...... BDS is about boycotts, not lawsuits.

      keith, are you implying if starbucks continues to exhibit racism against blacks you don't think this would very much be about a lawsuit? the 2 are not mutually exclusive.

    • i'm not sure jon. but i bet pal legal would know.

    • nathan, when Israel's deputy foreign minister, the Israeli consul general, and StandWithUs northwest director all conspire to waste the courts time pressing a slap law court case against a little co op in the state of washington, that is "Zionist Jews using their power” . http://mondoweiss.net/2012/02/whos-who-behind-the-olympia-food-co-op-lawsuit-2/

      when state after state after state wastes legislators time and money on unconstitutional anti bds legislation (in california, sponsored by "Capitol Knesset” otherwise known as "California Legislative Jewish Caucus") that is "Zionist Jews using their power”. http://mondoweiss.net/2016/04/anti-bds-legislation-faces-crucial-hearing-tomorrow-in-california-judiciary-committee/

      one can understand why you would want that phrase eliminated/banned and characterized as anti semitic but none the less, it exists -- just as placing snipers on the hillside murdering gazans while dictating "security" talking pts to msm which they faithfully report like lemming eliminationist stenographers exists (also an example of "Zionist Jews using their power”). the list goes on and on. no amount of "classical anti-Semitism has always been the “power of the Jews”" will change that.

    • This is consistent with the State Department definition, other state laws and some of the European laws. There has been a big push these last twenty or so years by the major Zionist organizations to criminalize criticism of Israel. Mondoweiss has covered this. Haven’t you been paying attention?

      there's no way nathan is not aware if this. there should be a separate term for hasbara/pilpul

    • echi, i can't help but think perhaps your personal distain for jvp is impacting your judgement as it pertains to the principle we're discussing.

      So where in “Race, Color, Disability, Sex, Sexual Orientation (including transgender status), National Origin/Ancestry, Creed, Marital Status and Retaliation” do you see political opinion?

      i see the message of the banner: "Palestinian Human Rights" as part of "Race, Color, Disability, Sex, Sexual Orientation (including transgender status), National Origin/Ancestry, Creed, Marital Status and Retaliation”. the shopowner had no problem w/the message until she knew who wanted to say it. i'm not sure if her political opinion about jvp is enough to override that message in the state of nevada if they have a law similar to colorado's.

    • keith, see my recent comment @ April 28, 2018, 5:35 pm

    • That’s also what Boycott means: Do Not Give Any Business (or even the time of the day) to Any Supporters of Zionism. What’s so hard to understand here?

      there's a big difference between choosing not to take your business to an establishment and not being allowed to take it there. that might be challenging for you to "understand here". boycotting starbucks because of their racist practices is different than legislation that protects starbuck's racism. or legislation that allows starbucks to dictate to the police who is or is not breaking the law.

    • another thing, my understanding (or lack of) what this situation pertains to, isn't the same as agreeing or disagreeing with the principle of a private business owner's obligation.

      but as far as this particular case, i think it's very smart to challenge it through the ACLU. i think it's important enough that even if i knew very well the shop owner was an ardent zionist, it would be worth initiating this transaction for the very purpose of challenging it through the courts -- because palestinian-americans and palestinians deserve the same respect, dignity and human rights as anyone else. and contrary to other claims made here, what the shop owner stated in her letter, it wasn't only jvp's website she objected to, it was the content of the banner once she knew who wanted it made, iow, her interpretation of "palestinian human rights" via jvp. so that places the content of "palestinian human rights" in the center of the complaint. yes, i hope it sees its day in court. not sure that challenge could be made after a scotus decision if they rule in favor of the bakery owners (vs a state's right to legislate “public accommodations discriminations”?).

    • as far as i know, the bakery case currently before the supreme court pertains to a private business. so although they may have different obligations (i'm not a lawyer and unfamiliar w/the specifics) basic constitutional principles likely apply.

      echi, no i am not confused. it reminds me of the muni dispute.

    • a privately owned, small business, the owner has the right to “serve” anyone he or she wants.

      not really. it depends on the circumstance https://www.insidetucsonbusiness.com/news/when-is-refusing-service-legal-and-when-is-it-discrimination/article_305de452-a55b-11e3-8245-001a4bcf887a.html

      business owners can refuse to serve customers, but must be careful that the denial of service is based on customer behavior, decorum or the health and safety of patrons and employees.

      “Normally, (refusal of service) would only be warranted where the customer’s presence would somehow be distracting to the wellbeing, to the safety, to the welfare of the other people in the business and the business itself. They can’t arbitrarily refuse service to some because they don’t like the way that they look,” Meynard said.

    • RoHa, it could run afoul of states' public accommodations laws which are not designed to protect a business owners free speech, they are designed to protect the customer. now a private club is different (from my understanding) but a public business isn't supposed to discriminate based on race, national origin, gender... and i think political beliefs. although i could be wrong. not sure you could have a restaurant with a sign that said "democrats not allowed". if she's in the business of helping people say what they want to say, then i don't think she can say "only if i agree with you".

      this reminds me of the muni buses dispute over pamela gellar's posters. muni decided not to either not post any political ads on their buses or else all of them. and she threatened to sue public transit companies in many cities unless they ran her racist ads. iow, it's not the public transit's freedom of speech that's protected, it's the publics.

    • like if you're black just avoid taking your business to starbucks. oh yeah, that makes perfect sense.

    • given the political climate, i don't think patronizing a zionist shop to make the bds banner is "terminal stupidity". scotus is closely divided over this issue and they have not decided yet, the ruling is supposed to be made this year. the colorado court determined the bakery ran afoul of the states "public accommodations discriminations" ruling. https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/dora/civil-rights/public-accommodations-discrimination

      Prohibited discriminatory practices in places of public accommodation must be based on certain protected classes and include these adverse actions: denial of service, terms and conditions, unequal treatment, failure to accommodate and retaliation.

      Protected classes for places of public accommodation are: Race, Color, Disability, Sex, Sexual Orientation (including transgender status), National Origin/Ancestry, Creed, Marital Status and Retaliation

      perhaps this is the ideal time to file a claim w/ACLU for many reasons.

  • Nine-month sentence is not justice, says father of 17-year-old Palestinian killed by Israeli soldier
  • Lieberman, commander of Gaza snipers, arrives in D.C. to take on Iran Deal
  • Portman's move puts pressure on liberal Zionists to take a stand
    • thanks yonah, i'll check it out.

    • To impose moral values upon nations is an unnatural fit.

      Because Israel was established in a location where wars could be expected, the expectation of imposing morality on the project became an especially difficult fit.

      Liberal zionism attempts to accept the nationalist project in a specific place, but wishes to somehow combine morality with the project. As I said, it’s an awkward fit.

      are you suggesting the myth of the iof being "the most moral army on earth" originated as a dictum from liberal zionists?

      and, are you using the holocaust, this "powerlessness", as an excuse for a society accepting/excusing/approving of snipers shooting protestors like fish in a barrel? are there no limits to your imaginary excesses yonah?

    • yonah, dershowitz calls himself a liberal. heck, tons of people call themselves liberals. clearly, the action of calling for a boycott, or not purchasing a product that entrenches the occupation even further, doesn't bother you as much as generations of people with no rights, snipers targeting and killing people with no punishment whatsoever. people living with 3-4 hours of water a day if that, children getting picked up in the middle of the night, tortured and imprisoned and the list goes on. but heck, it makes you feel warm inside to refer to yourself as liberal. i could care less if, like dershowitz, you want to call yourself a liberal yonah.

      then people like Jerry Haber are going to confiscate from them the right to call themselves liberal Zionists. Which of course is “silly”.

      i'll tell you what's silly -- thinking calling yourself liberal is a "right" that could be "confiscated". there's no right to it, people self identify however they want. which doesn't mean much if other people think you're a hypocrite, or an illiberal liberal (what harber said).

      a loose definition of liberal is "open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values."

      wrt israel, and zionism, what "new behavior" are you open towards? what traditional value do you discard? how you define yourself has no meaning for me if it's in contradiction to my experience of you, you can't make other people accept your definition as their truth. iow a person can claim they are loving provider as they beat their wife. they might believe it, their wife might even believe it, but what i will see is a wife beater.

  • Revealed: Israeli Justice Ministry directly involved in international 'lawfare' activities against BDS movement
    • hey gamal sweetness, thank you..

      Until the philosophy which hold one race superior
      And another
      Inferior
      Is finally
      And permanently
      Discredited
      And abandoned -
      Everywhere is war -
      Me say war.

      That until there no longer
      First class and second class citizens of any nation
      Until the colour of a man's skin
      Is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes -
      Me say war....

      we don't need
      no more trouble..

    • sweet! looks like they gave the ADL a real black eye.

    • hot news jonathan! thank you. i remember when some new ministry (or department within a ministry?) was formed to deal w/bds. the portfolio was supposed to be w/one ministry but it was so big (lots of money) another ministry was hankering for it. the details are muddy. but isn't this latest development interesting.

      i wonder whose idea was it to initiate canary mission. and isn't it interesting wikipedia has no profile on canary mission. nothing. how very strange. anyway, as soon as i read of Ayelet Shaked's involvement, it just occurred to me canary mission would be right up her alley.. i wonder what other kinds of covert actions they've come up with. the anti bds legislation obviously.

  • Reclaiming Judaism from mystical nationalism
    • i sure hope not too phil.

    • what to say? so much sadness/depressing nationalism gone amok in this article. it just makes me very grateful i am not part of this cult. i can't help but feel sorry for kids being raised this way.

      “…but with one exception. The mandatory war [milchemet mitzvah] in which case “all must go to war, including the bridegroom from his chamber and the bride from her wedding ceremony’ [(Mishnah Sota 8:7)]. [see Mondoweiss article showing that Israel’s war with the Palestinians is such a mandatory war]

      i added an embed to Yossi Gurvitz's recent article "Genocide is a mitzvah" in this last passage. i hope that's what Rabbi Michael Davis intended.

      (h/t to Shmuel Sermoneta-Gertel for the Tamares quotes)

      if you're reading this, miss you shmuel!

  • Dear Natalie Portman: I too was once a liberal Zionist
  • Israeli gunshots are causing 'unusually severe damage' to legs, exit wounds as big as a fist -- human rights group
    • just, we wrote about this same ammo they've been using here:

      http://mondoweiss.net/2018/04/appears-palestinians-footballer/

      and here's a close up of the ammo: https://twitter.com/alirabusaad/status/987382136306126848

      haaretz:

      “The bullets used are causing injuries local medics say they have not seen since 2014. The entrance wound is small. The exit wound is devastating, causing gross comminution of bone and destruction of soft tissue.”

      when i was in gaza touring the hospital in '09, doctors said the medical teams that came from egypt were shocked at the wounds because they have never seen this kind of internal destruction of the organs from these bullets. the spin (like a garbage disposal?) and mush everything so it can't be repaired.

      grotesque and sadistic.

  • Natalie Portman says, Enough!
  • The 'Jewish nation' is the central myth of Zionism. It needs to be dismantled.
    • That basic situation is happening in many other places in the world.

      please illuminate us with other examples of world class colonialist armies pitted against defenseless indigenous people with rocks.

    • that journalist is too much:

      I acknowledged her pain, and she did not acknowledge mine. I believe the Palestinians have a right to their own state, and she believes the Jews do not.

      what is her pain? she lives in the bay area, a very comfortable life no doubt. and she's juxtaposing her "pain" w/Zoabi's who has witnessed the unbearable dismantling of her homeland, her people imprisoned and killed. what has Sue Fishkoff witnessed?

  • Jewish leader refuses to debate BDS with young Jew, at J Street conference
    • we refuse to debate arguments we will inevitably lose!

    • oh i see, now i get your drift. not to be confused with me gets your drift.

    • not sure i'd characterize a policy of "not to debate" as honorable. but if by "honorably" you mean something else i am all ears. or were you snarking? ;)

    • and i liked what i read of zoe's speech. that's impressive coming from the president of jstreetU.

    • paranam, excuse me for placing my comment here but i wanted it to land above the troll diversion happening lower in the thread.

      phil, thank you so much for the report. this was my favorite most hopeful part:

      Becca Lubow, a student at the University of Michigan who has worked against BDS, said that nothing advances the movement on college campuses more than the impression students get from authorities that they wish to shut down debate of BDS.

      this says it all. the very idea that most effective non violent campaign is deemed off limits for debate, and that was determined a long time ago by reut (along w/frank luntz no doubt) w/the "red lines" paper, is absurd. it's like they have no effective argument against it so they deem it anti semitic and want it removed from discussion. and like anything you're not allowed to say, it drives the conversation. so i totally love this and love that it came from a student who has worked against BDS.

    • the guy who said he’d agreed not to debate BDS was at least open about that

      pabelmont, i didn't read burton's words as an opening so much as an attempt to shut down speech. sort of like, 'that's not fair because i was assured we wouldn't go there and you went there so it's against the rules.' he used the specific word "assured" and said "here on the condition that we would not be debating the topic."

      it's interesting because he doesn't seem free. he didn't actually say he agreed (personally) with this condition, but that he agreed to it, and it put him in a "complicated" position. i wonder where his orders came from. this "mainstream Jewish organizations including my own essentially have a policy to not debate". hmm, i wonder how that's working out for them.

  • Thousands demonstrate at Gaza border in 'Burn Israeli Flags' Friday
    • drop the drugs from "drug addled youth" and what have you got? system addled youth! what kind of system? that system where those other people shoot them and imprison them. what other people? the ones accusing them of being addled by the system. omg, the logic is addling my mind. i need some drugs to comprehend it's all so very complicated. or did i mean complex?

    • dabakr, aside from implying she's in preparation for her own death, you call this a "trait", one we are "glorifying". what planet are you on? a ten year old child in gaza has been through 3 wars. what kind of dream and hope does a parent try to instill in their child at a young age in that environment to offer them the best opportunity in life? exactly what she communicates of course.

      whereas in the colonialist mindset i'm sure one might hope the child would be raised to succumb, to be subservient, to embrace their submission, to bow down to the master. but not raising one's child to accept defeat is not preparation to sacrifice -- it's the opposite.

    • she is preparing to sacrifice

      deema's sign says "I am a child of Al-Majdal" and nothing in the text reminded me of a preparation for sacrifice.

      "...I will return one day over there,”
      “...I am not afraid of these gas bombs or bullets."

      “My mother used to tell me every day that she prepares me for the school: ‘Be strong, darling, do not let anyone take your sandwich.’ So today I will not let the Israelis stop me from return.."

      how does this represent preparation for sacrifice? maybe you know something deema doesn't. this just sounds to me like she's been taught she will return someday, which she probably will, or else her children will. plus, she has a legal right to.

      i've been to gaza and i've been inside UN run elementary school classrooms there. at a very early age they start learning about their rights, international rights.

    • I just noted that for a people whose doom is impending (we all agree that BDS is destroying ....

      another sarcastic bragging expedition.

      i'm thinking about not feeding trolls this morning.

  • Sen. Warren and 5 congresspeople finally criticize Israel's killings; pressure mounts on Feinstein
    • Their mindset is fixated on a problem their mediocre mindset

      whoa. deep.

    • by all means dabakr, link to it. link to their big conferences like aipac's where all the politicians attend and bow over kissing the ring. the biggest "well funded" palestinian org i know of, which likely gets their funds similar to berniw sanders $27 a pop campaign, is the bds movement which is being attacked by the israel lobby's anti bds legislation in states all across the country. so name some names for us. tell us which pols are in the pocket of this "extremely well funded palestinian lobby". because any tom dick and harry can name the names of millionaire and billionaire pro israel supporters. come on, back up your claim. start with the a** kissing politicians.

    • 433 Congressmen and 99 Senators have NOT responded because they rightly view it as a provocation.

      what may "rightly" be seen as provocative today, can be seen as radically just tomorrow, or in less than a generation. mlk was considered provocative, remember? killed for it too. just think about it, another few decades israel could have streets all over the country named after Haniyeh, or palestinian heroes they are killing today and a palestinian president. relax, we're in it for the long haul, justice will prevail.

  • Netanyahu says Israeli snipers are doing ‘holy work’
  • Contextualizing the Great March of Return
  • ‘Onion boy’ Mohammed Ayyash dreams of a playground, just like every other kid
    • "onion boy scares the bejeebers out of you eh?"

      jack: Nobody but BDS/Mondoweiss Kool aid drinkers believes that Hamas ‘went Gandhi’ overnight.

      strawman! nice divert tho! onion boy scares the bejeebers out of you eh?

      jack: hamas hamas hamas hamas yada yada hamas yada yada hamas

      onion boy scares the bejeebers out of you eh?

    • You are a full throated supporter of a internationally recognised terror group.

      googled operation timber sycamore lately? how about the MEK or PKK? iow, determining who's a terrorist is highly subjective. the accusation just doesn't pack the punch it once did. especially when tossed around by agents defending the empire.

      You and your BDS/Mondoweiss cult devotees live in bubble, divorced from the real world.

      so, onion boy scares the bejeebers out of you eh. good to know. yeah, he's pretty creepy alright. think hamas set him up to it? the onion in that disposable surgical face mask? maybe you could get israel to blockade those surgical masks from gaza. photos like these are dangerous. i wonder where he got it. hamas or maybe one (or both??) of his parents are a doctor or nurse. maybe a hamas nurse? or an aunt or uncle? omg, the possibilities are endless. if this child were not a child but an adult with that onion disposable surgical face mask, just imagine how much more dangerous he might be.

      a hamas onion disposable surgical face mask -- horrific.

      you would make a pact with the devil in order to end Israel’s existence.

      does the devil even make pacts with people supporting children bearing onion enhanced disposable surgical face masks? hmm. you might have a point. let me think about that in the morning.

    • jack, relax. your over 2 week old "breaking" jpost article claims "A seven-year-old Palestinian girl was sent by Hamas across the fence, opposite IDF soldiers." even they didn't claim she was sent there to die. this is the same idf who claims hamas organized the protests (not true). how do you know this is not just a made up story or one of a little girl walking towards the border? how do you, or how does the idf know, hamas "sent" her? your article is old news hasbara. and then you add on to it by saying "to die". massive #fail. if this had been true there would have been an update on it or photos or something. child walking towards border is not hamas send child to their death. grow up.

  • Israeli government effort to paint slain journalist Yaser Murtaja as terrorist is failing
    • misterioso, friends of sabeel tried bringing her here for a 2017 speaking tour and the US denied her a visa. hopefully code pink will be more successful.

      http://mondoweiss.net/2016/12/tamimi-denied-speaking/

      as an aside, i wrote an article once about filmmaker Mohammad al-Azza, when they shot his eye out, called targeting talent http://mondoweiss.net/2013/04/targeting-talent/ . there are too many young stellar palestinians who have been targeted to name them all. this is a pattern of colonization and genocide, to remove the leaders of a cultural/national group, especially the males. COIN does it too.

    • they targeted him precisely because of who he was. talented, young, ambitious, and beautiful. palestinians such as Murtaja represent a grave threat to israel, precisely because of who they are.

  • Neocons and liberal interventionists are back in the saddle again -- though 'nobody wants a big war'!
  • Striking images from the last week of Gaza's Great March of Return
    • and you can't call them clashes when there's a land barrier between the two sides. photo captions (such as these) are generally written by the photographer/photojournalist or their agency. here's a tongue and cheek article addressing the topic "How to write about Palestine like an objective western journalist" https://www.iol.co.za/news/opinion/how-to-write-about-palestine-like-an-objective-western-journalist-14371607

      First: The facts

      Each time Palestinians protest and Israelis open fire, you should describe it as “clashes” or something similar, devoid of contextualisation. Take Bloomberg for instance (“Palestinians Clash With Israeli Troops for second week in Gaza”) or BBC’s (“Deadly unrest on Gaza-Israel border as Palestinians resume protests”). Here, the facts don’t matter: There were no clashes; just Israeli forces opening fire on unarmed protesters - who were either rolling tyres to burn near the fences or border, or praying, or running, or chanting. Take CNN’s “Fresh violence erupts along Gaza-Israel border as Palestinians march again”. Here the violence erupts the same way a volcano erupts for no particular reason.

  • 50 NYU student groups endorse BDS, call on university to divest from companies complicit in Israeli occupation
    • practically speaking, not sure how much "political capital" accusations of anti semitism have any more in the UK. what's a society to do after years of screaming headlines accusing a certain well seasoned well loved politician of antisemitism oh so coincidentally after he becomes party leader? like the boy who cried wolf, society just becomes immune after awhile. it's not like everybody doesn't know there's a wolf, but they keep screaming its name for political gain, and people are just fed up -- jeremy corbin is not an anti semite and neither are 99.9999% of labour members. these pro israel people just want all the attention all the time and frankly, they are about as charismatic as a nagging schoolmarm. recent big headlines ISRAEL LABOR CUTS TIES WITH JEREMY CORBYN.. like who the f cares? the labor party in israel is a minor party. the party leader, Avi Gabbay, i have never even heard of him til i just googled. i bet not even 1 person in 5000 in the UK know who he is. and this makes headlines?

    • Many Jews in the UK were “losing their traditional political home”

      but, the vast majority aren't. so there's that.

    • something tells me it's probably not too fun defending the slaughter on gaza's border right now (sadists aside --catalan seems to be enjoying himself, as usual). there seems to be no limit to the hysteria over anti semitism in the UK. i'd even be more concerned about it myself had it not been revealed in the AJ undercover series how accusations of anti semitism were being promoted as a political agenda.

    • rise of leftist antisemitism that supports radical Muslim anti-Israeli attitudes expressed in antisemitic terms such as in the BDS ...

      this statement implies the bds movement express "radical Muslim anti-Israeli attitudes". i wonder how those are defined. here's the paragraph proceeding that one, regarding trump's jerusalem statement:

      Reactions to the move included attacks on Jews, antisemitic slogans, including calls for murder, and the burning of the Israeli flag. “These incidents do not necessarily originate in Muslim and Arab circles and countries, but rather come from a variety of groups and circles, from most of the political spectrum, leftwing groups included.”

      so, bds expresses "radical Muslim anti-Israeli attitudes" but the jerusalem response "do not necessarily originate in Muslim and Arab circles and countries", so i guess bds is "radical Muslim anti-Israeli" and the reaction to jerusalem was not?

  • How Gaza came to be trapped 'from fence to fence'
    • there's no strawman despite your claim mondonut. just because replacing palestine with a settler dominated jewish State has been overwhelmingly inhumane doesn't necessitate the assumption implementing a right of return for palestinians would or could not be humanitarian, and of course it belongs in any humanitarian discourse regarding the future of the region.

      if you didn't choose the term eliminate to suggest mass slaughter, why not just carry on discussing the elimination of israel as a jewish state, vs a state of all its citizens* in equality, as it should be? why not just answer roha's question: If the granting the right of return means an end to the State of Israel as it currently is, so what?

      *including the recognition all native people residing (in their homeland) as citizens.

    • the hasbara surrounding these events (especially the greenhouse propaganda) has so thoroughly saturated the media, it's as if jack thinks people are just going to sort of *forget* reality. like if you say "greenhouse gift" 1000 times everyone will think settlers wrapped it in a bow and parted with good wishes. something is not a gift when you charge a fee (and because settlers were not happy with the fee they demolished 1/2 of them themselves before they left) and it's not a gift when all the time, labor and money invested in making a 20 million dollar investment work ends up rotting under the hot sun because israel and the US won't allow trade with the outside world.

      he's determined to talk to us so his footprint (or their footprint, their narrative) can be on the page. not sure what the sloppy "idiot" stuff is about. it's as if he thinks we will forget. palestinians have long memories, and we've got the archives... for ever lying hasbara meme, we've got a record of reality.

    • or tell me jack, do you think this little girl, after witnessing her family blown up on the beach, is faking it for the camera. is that the route you're going to take (with snippy "idiot" "moron" ad hominem crutches thrown in for good measure)?

    • ah, so that's what it's about, israel responding. and israel breaking the ceasefire? >

      The event broke a 16-month ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, setting off a summer of death (Operation Summer Rains) which resulted in over 400 dead human beings. Boianjiu described a famous photo in her fictional story, which matched a real life photo that McClatchy described as “an icon of the Arab-Israeli conflict” and “a potent symbol in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that could embolden Palestinian resistance and erode international support for Israel.”

      http://mondoweiss.net/2012/06/famous-killing-on-gaza-beach-broke-the-ceasefire-lead-to-operation-summer-rains/

    • you're very welcome jack. let's review this lie/hasbara about the "parting gift":

      According to the New York Times, two months prior to the withdrawal, in July of 2005, Israeli settlers demolished about half of the greenhouses, “creating significant doubts that the greenhouses could be handed over to the Palestinians as ‘a living business.’”.... rather than leave their greenhouses behind for the Palestinians some settlers decided to burn them to the ground.

      Notwithstanding the destruction that had already been wrought, wealthy American philanthropists led by the Gates foundation and James Wolfensohn, the US Special Envoy for Gaza Disengagement, bought the remaining greenhouses from the Israeli settlers on behalf of the Palestinians in Gaza for $14 million. Wolfensohn contributed $500,000 of his own money.

      the so called "gift" was bought and paid for. as to what happened to those "structurally intact" greenhouses, to which "some" of the pipes and pumps etc were removed:

      The PED [Palestine Economic Development Company]invested more than $20 million into the project. Jabir said that as a result of the destruction by Israeli settlers and Palestinian looters the PED had to invest an additional $5 million into the greenhouse project to revive it......the greenhouses were up and running by mid-October. By late November, the New York Times reported that the Palestinians were preparing to harvest a crop of peppers, strawberries, tomatoes and herbs worth $20 million. Presciently, in the same article, Palestinians expressed concern that if Israel did not keep the Karni border crossing open, it could result in the demise of the greenhouse project.

      so what happened? israel prevented gaza from economic recovery. slow strangulation. here's how wiki put it:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza

      By early 2006, farmers, faced with the slowness of transit, were forced to dump most of their produce at the crossing where it was eaten by goats. Ariel Sharon fell ill, a new Israeli administration eventually came to power and Wolfensohn resigned his office, after suffering from obstacles placed in his way by the U.S. administration, which was sceptical of the agreements reached on border terminals. Wolfensohn attributed this policy of hindrance to Elliott Abrams.

    • jack, twisted convoluted hasbara, #fakenews. try harder.

      for your edification i recommend "The Greenhouse propaganda—How Gazan history is being rewritten to dehumanize Palestinians" by Justin Schwegel: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/propaganda-dehumanize-palestinians/

  • Slain Palestinian journalist's media org vows to hold Israel accountable 'for this heinous crime'
  • 1948 and the Anglo–Saxim: on Western involvement in expulsion of the Palestinians
    • au contraire, i have a concept of what i wrote. there was no "maybe" there. there was no hypothetical justification like your hollow words.

    • there were witnesses at Tantura. you can't erase it. and the ambush of the hospital convoy, that happened 4 days after the slaughter of civilians at deir yassin.

    • when jack pulls the 'low hanging fruit*' /'roof over your head' lines you gotta start tip toeing real careful like around his sensitive feelings.

      and the full belly thing... okay!

      *as if israel doesn't get cadillac treatment from our gov. triple yawn, better go grab my hankie.

    • thank you Dan Freeman-Maloy, fascinating read.

  • Jews and trauma
    • you're ripping my gut today mooser. that and the hood comment to yonah -- barely catch my breath.

    • jon, that's kinda like saying "now it's gay marriage, what's next, marrying a child, or your pet?"

    • yonah, your "modus vivendi " reminds me of hamas 2008 offer of a 10 year hudna or truce if israel returned to 67 borders. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24235665/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/hamas-offers-truce-return-borders/#.WsuksdPwZ_8

      the offer was made to carter during negotiations in syria. he took it seriously. the article claims "Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said he decided not to meet with Carter in Israel because he does not wish to be seen as participating in any negotiations with Hamas." and the state department "dismissed Carter’s assessment ".

      Convincing the nontraumatised American Jewish young ‘uns that they have little in common with Israel is the workable strategy.

      they seem to be figuring this out on their own and need little convincing. i'm reminded of david sheen's 2014 "Terrifying tweets of pre-Army Israeli teens" http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/terrifying-tweets-israeli/

      Convincing people who are attached to israel, that they should detach, because their attachment is a result of trauma and let’s have a discussion about the trauma, that’s not going to work, not here, not anywhere on this planet.

      hmm. can you elaborate on why? you seem to sure.

      certainly not when initiated by someone who often has espoused his basic apathy towards the disappearance of Jewish languages.

      that's so interesting you should say this. it's my understanding yiddish was sort of dropped by a whole generation of jewish immigrants who arrived in the US. for whatever reason, to assimilate perhaps. but many didn't teach their own children yiddish. i don't know if that could be ascribed to "apathy", but some might consider it such. do you think there is resentment by the youth to their parents generation for this absence?

  • Seven things you need to know about Israel's latest attack on Gaza
    • it's just so invidious for those snowflake snipers they had to shoot palestinians as they were running in the opposite direction! it's so invidious they simply had to target palestinian journalists covering the event!

    • that last line about the bus drivers, i don't buy it. i read in a highly statistically challenged daily beast article bus drivers in Gaza had been compelled by Hamas to drive people to the border "or relinquish his vehicles" (presumably so others could use the buses to attend the protest). so where did you get your info mayhem, about the jail time?

  • Philadelphians to Philly Orchestra: Cancel your trip to Israel
    • Singling out B&J when every other company sells in the settlements doesn’t make much sense.

      i already explained, they are not singled out. many many companies selling consumer goods in the settlements are targeted.

      The only company I know of which refuses to sell there is McDonald’s

      not sure how that's relevant.

      It makes more sense to boycott items produced in the settlements.

      why? if you live in a town w/a corporation that profits off the occupation it makes sense to target that corporation. it makes perfect sense for an american to target caterpillar or motorola. and if you live in burlington, it makes sense to target ben and jerry's. some activists and campaigns are just more effective than others, and get the word out more.

      it's not as if there's some limit on what you can boycott. obviously it takes a lot of effort to organize a campaign against a specific company, but many activists groups work together under the umbrella of the bds movement. but effectively, it makes sense to boycott as many companies and products as one can once you find out a company is profiting off the occupation and not limit oneself to just products produced in the settlements.

      they have a chevrolet dealership in Ma'ale Adumim. that would be a corporation to target. why not?

    • So why boycott B&J and not Nestle

      nestles is already targeted by bds. https://www.facebook.com/BDSbayarea/photos/a.719657444772088.1073741828.718226288248537/740383832699449/

      https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/bds-activists-label-israeli-products-in-canadian-stores-1.5417887

      They were stuck on Pampers diapers, made by Proctor & Gamble, one of the largest clients of an Israeli company that supplies diaper products; on Coffee-mate, made by Nestlé, which has a large business footprint in Israel; and McCafé coffee by McDonald’s, which BDS activists say has partnered with U.S. Jewish groups to promote trips to Israel.

      Meanwhile, stickers proclaiming “Israeli apartheid, don’t buy into it” were affixed to five bottles of Efrat white wine, made in the Judean Hills, at a Vancouver liquor store.

      settlers buy ice cream, along with other food, drinks, clothes, appliances, computers, cars, airline tickets, and everything else.

      whoever distributes B&J to the settlements, they and B&J profit off the occupation. B&J has a say so over who distributes their products and if they are ok with making that profit over doing what's morally right, then they will be targeted. they should not be selling their products in illegal settlements. they should not be making life more pleasurable for people living on stolen land. not too complicated.

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