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Atlantaiconoclast

Healer, frustrated academic, libertarian and non-interventionist

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  • PLO source denies Abbas plans to propose large land swap deal during Trump visit
    • Atlantaiconoclast May 22, 2017 at 8:22 pm

      One of the greatest successes of the Zionist propaganda machine is to conflate Islam, radical Islam in fact, with "Palestinians." Just like they have Americans equating ISIS with Iran.

  • 'Bullies, bigots and thugs led by Netanyahu' shut down synagogue event-- in suburban Detroit
    • Atlantaiconoclast May 10, 2017 at 2:38 pm

      I sure all Mondoweiss readers use that Buycot app on their phone when out shopping. If we can't do something that basic, there really is no hope for BDS.

  • A Republican plan for peacemaking: 'break the will' of the Palestinians and force them to 'accept defeat'
    • Atlantaiconoclast May 11, 2017 at 6:06 pm

      Mooser,

      First, when have I ever called for separatism?
      Second, when have you ever used the word "supremacist" to label a Jew?

      I don't know what is in Duke's heart, but I don't like the double standard of calling him a supremacist, while refusing to call Zionists who favor a Jewish state, populated almost entirely by Jews, supremacists.

      There are Black separatists, and I don't assume that they want to dominate Whites.

      I do not support forced separatism, nor do I support forced integration. I support freedom of association. Got it? Now please go look in the mirror if you want to see someone with prejudice.

    • Atlantaiconoclast May 10, 2017 at 2:46 pm

      The only thing that could possibly change the minds of these politicians, other than the threat of a political defeat, is if more Americans knew about Israel's harm to the US, including its support for Islamic extremists against the Assad regime, and its campaign to get the US to fight its wars.

    • I once emailed Pipes and asked him if he supported transfer of Palestinians and he said no, so it is curious to know what he wants to do with them if they must accept defeat.

    • David Duke said that? He has explicitly said he does not want Whites to dominate other groups. He is not a supremacist. A separatist yes.

  • New York rabbi links Jewish Voice for Peace to Osama bin Laden and Assad
    • I find the angst about Assad totally disingenuous. Those in the Jewish establishment, like this rabbi, know very well that any American president would act even more brutally than Assad has if the US faced violent siege by well armed militias of head chopping Al Qaeda and ISIS affiliated groups.

      The animus against Assad is not about concern for humanity, but about concern that Assad has put a wrench in the long term plan to destabilize Syria for Israel.

  • 'New sheriff in town' Nikki Haley is gonna kick anyone who objects to latest Jewish settlement
    • Huh? Who hates Jews so much? Certainly not the Christian Zionist camp that Haley comes from. You guys need to stop pretending that the problem is hatred toward Jews.

      Haley is one of three things, stupid, ignorant, or a typical craven politician. I say she is the latter.

  • 'Negation of the diaspora' as Zionist antisemitism: The JCC bomb threats came from an Israeli Jew
    • Atlantaiconoclast March 29, 2017 at 10:44 pm

      "To be fair, it has been a really long time since America has experienced such a mass outbreak of Anti-Semitism, and the Liberal Jewish community has been deeply shaken by its re-emergence under Trumpworld domination." - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2017/03/negation-diaspora-antisemitism/#sthash.6mJxRyCD.dpuf

      Oh brother. How is what this guy did "anti Semitic"? You really want us to believe that the threats were not driven by a desire to create false flag hate that would further the image of the Jew as eternal victim? Even if the kid did not have a motive, and was just crazy, that is not anti Semitism, just mentally ill behavior.

      The Alt Right has every right to mock the media and the Jewish establishment given the widespread assumption that Trump had unleashed a new wave of anti Semitism.

  • UNC SJP responds to ongoing debate over cancellation of Rania Khalek event
    • Atlantaiconoclast March 27, 2017 at 1:44 pm

      I have asked this question before, but no one who wants Assad ousted has ever answered it. Here I go again:

      If Obama's or any other president's regime had been under siege from violent head chopping Islamic terrorists, bankrolled by Gulf state money and Turkey, and supported by Western intelligence, Israel and The Lobby, do you really think Obama or any other president would NOT have inflicted massive collateral damage to "root out terrorists" using humans as shields? Don't be naive!

    • Atlantaiconoclast March 27, 2017 at 1:33 pm

      I am a no apologies supporter of Assad. If you truly cared about human rights, then your focus would not be on Syria, but on Saudi Arabia and other hellholes. No one seemed to think Assad was a murderer, till he had to fight back against vicious Islamic terrorists bankrolled or directly or indirectly supported by Western intelligence, the Israel Lobby, and Gulf state kingdoms. The White Helmets are well known to be a cover for Al Qaeda. Get a clue. If Assad loses, your "revolutionary democratic" (whatever that means) forces will have their heads chopped off by ISIS and Al Qaeda.

  • Hate crimes in America: either a trap or an opportunity for Palestine advocates
    • Atlantaiconoclast March 13, 2017 at 1:02 pm

      prove one of them! I have yet to see one that was not a hate hoax!

    • none of the Whites I personally know think Jews are non White, but I have read a number of Jews who argue that they are not White

      the notion that Jews are not White is largely a Jewish one these days

  • Sanders suggests giving Gaza a portion of $38 billion US military aid to Israel
    • Atlantaiconoclast March 5, 2017 at 8:26 pm

      Oh isn't he generous. NOT! We should not be giving ANY foreign aid to either the apartheid state OR the corrupt PA. I would respect him if he had the courage to call for an end to this foreign aid. Then the Palestinians wouldn't need so much aid, for Israel would not have its occupation subsidized by us. Sanders, like Obama, has been a cruel hoax.

  • The 50th anniversary of the occupation will rock the Jewish establishment
  • Campus wars
    • No, that would be you. You do not have the right to control thought by shutting down speech you deem wrong. I can't believe we have to review this basic law of civilization. The non aggression principle would save us a lot of trouble if we could all embrace it.

      And what consequences do you speak of? There is no epidemic of alt righters killing or hurting people who disagree with them. ANTIFA is the group filled with hate and ready to hurt those with whom they disagree. They get away with it by constantly associating their opponents with Nazism, but never have to answer for their ties to a far bloodier ideology, Marxism.

    • Oh please, SJWs push for attacking people they deem Nazis all the time! I have never heard Richard Spencer or David Duke call for violence. "Hate" speech can be argued against. Direct threats are a different matter. Stop conflating the two.

    • Exactly! Palestinian rights supporters must stop trying to chill the free speech of others if they want free speech themselves.

    • BLM has already jumped the shark. Middle America is appalled by BLM and its lies.

    • A good way to promote free speech about Israel would be to support anyone else on campus who desires free speech, even if you disagree with them. If you make room for open debate and discussion, your side will win, that is unless you don't have faith in your position.

      Too often, progressives shriek in horror at the way students for Palestine are treated but celebrate the shutting down of speakers like Milo. If you want free speech, you MUST honor the rights of others.

  • The curious red line for Milo Yiannapoulos
    • Milo is not a White nationalist. Geez Louise, he is as much a White nationalist as Obama was. An Islamophobe? Probably. But not a White nationalist. The real White nationalists despise him.

      Furthermore, while I too am offended by Milo's words about his own molestation, I wonder why you and others aren't equally horrified by George Takei's similar testament to the benefits of having an adult lover at such a young age.

  • Palestinian Americans find Trump’s stance on Israel/Palestine, Friedman appointment ‘severely distressing’
    • Certainly, they have every right to feel frustrated, but surely they have been terribly frustrated by Obama over the last eight years. What did Obama do for them? NADA







    • U.S. President Donald Trump’s pick for the U.S. ambassador to Israel has turned out to be one of the most controversial appointments in recent years, with five former U.S. ambassadors to Israel condemning the pick, calling David Friedman “unqualified for the position” due to his “extreme, radical positions.”

      While Friedman’s appointment has also been condemned by Jewish Americans as well as international human rights groups, Palestinian Americans, in particular, feel disenfranchised by the prospect of a Friedman appointment.

      Friedman is a vocal supporter of illegal Israeli settlements, in opposition to the international community and the U.S.’s protocol against settlements. Furthermore, Friedman is the president of the American fundraising arm of the illegal Israeli settlement Beit El’s Yeshiva Complex. According to the New York Times, Friedman has raised millions of dollars for its “related institutions” and has made nearly yearly visits to the settlement during the Jewish holiday Sukkot.

      Before the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations committee began confirmation hearings for Friedman on Feb. 16, the Arab American Institute, a D.C. based think tank which serves as a political and policy research arm of the Arab-American community in the U.S., called for its supporters to contact their Senators and demand Friedman be denied the position of U.S. Ambassador to Israel.

      “If you believe in justice for Palestine – call your Senators today to urge them to vote no,” the group’s call to action stated, adding that “Friedman’s far right-wing views on Palestinians, on what would be an acceptable resolution to the conflict, his financial support for illegal Israeli settlement activity, and his shameful comments regarding American Jews who advocate for peace simply disqualify him from the post.”

      Following the hearing, Palestinian-American author, human rights attorney and assistant professor at George Mason University, Nour Erakat, said that “Despite his disciplined performance before the Senate confirmation panel,” she believes Friedman made it “abundantly clear his agenda regarding Israel and Palestine.”

      “In his capacity as ambassador, he will serve the interests of Israel’s right-wing government and settler movement to consolidate a vision of Greater Israel that includes sovereignty over occupied East Jerusalem as well as the largest settlement blocs sprawling across the occupied West Bank,” she said.

      At the confirmation hearing, Palestinian Americans and pro-Palestinian activists interrupted the meeting in protest several times.

      One such protester was Taher Herzallah, Director of Outreach & Grassroots Organizing at American Muslims for Palestine.

      During the hearing, Herzallah held up a Palestinian flag, shouting “My grandfather was exiled by the state of Israel, and I’m right here … We’re not going away. We were there, we are there now, and we will always be there.”

      “Palestinians will always be in Palestine,” he shouted before being led out of the hearing by police officers.

      Herzallah told Mondoweiss that he feared Friedman being appointment as U.S. envoy would essentially mean “abandoning the idea of a Palestinian state on ‘67 borders,” saying that to him, the idea of abandoning such borders is “extremely dangerous,” and the main reason he stood up against Friedman.

      “The appointment of someone like Friedman, who has a track record of supporting and building settlements in the West Bank can be an indication that the official U.S. position on settlements maybe shifting to normalize them as a fact on the ground that Palestinians must accept in order for there to be any negotiated agreement.”

      Herzallah also said he was concerned that approving Friedman would surely lead to the U.S. embassy being moved to Jerusalem, which could possibly spark another Palestinian uprising.

      “The embassy move would be cementing the occupation as a permanent arrangement with full U.S. approval,” he said. “This signals a shift in the way the U.S. tries to position itself concerning Israel/Palestine. Traditionally the U.S. gives complete diplomatic, financial and military support to Israel while also claiming that it is committed to a two-state solution and the basic human rights of the Palestinian people. Now, the U.S. would be directly and openly involved in destroying the idea of any future Palestinian state.”

      Daniel Banourra, 30 and a Palestinian-American instructor at the Bethlehem Bible College in the southern occupied West Bank told Mondoweiss that he doubts Friedman gaining approval as the next U.S. envoy in Israel would result in an actual uprising, but he hopes it would spark a change in U.S. policy.

      “I’m hopeful that this appointment and the general popular American dissatisfaction with Trump would lead Americans, and, by extension, American policymakers to reassess their position on Israel/Palestine,” Bannoura said.

      However, without any drastic change in U.S. policy, Bannoura said he feels the U.S.’s chances at being a legitimate mediator between Palestine and Israel are at risk.

      “Despite the seemingly positive moves made under the Obama administration, generally speaking, the U.S. has lost its credibility as a balanced and honest broker when it comes the role it plays in mediating and negotiating with both parties of the conflict,” he said. “

      - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2017/02/palestinian-israelpalestine-appointment/#sthash.V1j9DeFt.dpuf

      Seriously? What positive moves? It is beyond ridiculous that people who seemed not to be too concerned with Obama's complete lack of interest in helping Palestine, be outraged about Friedman.

      Where were these protestors over the last eight years as Obama helped Israel consolidate its occupation and Jews ONLY colonization?

  • Saying ‘I Am Muslim, Too’ is not standing in solidarity with Muslims
    • Aligning yourself with "the Muslims," even as you fail to oppose these violent interventions and proxy wars in the Mideast that have destroyed many Muslim majority nations, and caused the refugee crisis, is the height of hypocrisy or cluelessness.

  • Tom Friedman begs Trump to 'save the Jews' from themselves
    • Can we dispense with the niceties and rationalizing and face facts? People like Friedman are Jewish supremacists. Maybe not without some sense of the injustice of it all, but fundamentally, they seek perceived Jewish interests above all else.

  • Trump is putting the crunch on liberal Zionism
    • But if Trump is successful and wins reelection, this strategy will only hurt the Palestinians.

    • No, I sympathize with Jews who speak out, however, they are still protected in some sense.

    • indeed! I hope Phil is right, but I think skepticism is merited and is the right path to take going forward.

    • I will believe it when I see it. The fact that so many Jewish people are so passionately anti Trump, but silent on Israel speaks volumes. I see little evidence for the kind of self awareness Phil says is increasing among American Jews.

  • Banned from Jerusalem (for trying to pay respects to my grandmother)
  • Trump's dim view of Palestine-Israel
    • Yes, I know that birthrates must be examined over a long period. I thought maybe someone here had hard numbers to support either case.

    • Can someone settle once and for all the question of the competing birthrates of the Palestinians vs. the Israeli Jews? I have heard various Zionists bragging that the birthrate for Israeli Jews is now higher than that for Palestinians. They really seem to believe they can defeat the Palestinians once and for all by out breeding the Palestinians. But then so many on our side say that the Palestinians have the highest birth rate. Anyone have data to support either contention?

  • Liberal supporters of Israel slam Trump's 'terrifying' comments-- some saying Jews need to keep a majority
    • Agreed. The double standard is at the root of Israeli intransigence. They know that the world is afraid to call Zionism what it is, Jewish supremacism. No progressive minded person and even few conservatives would accept even one White state, yet everyone should support one Jewish state? Give me a break.

    • But Israel has already done that, and the world has been largely silent. I just don't see this groundswell that will change Israel's policies.

  • Israeli leaders read Trump's words as a permission slip
  • Israel interferes in our politics all the time, and it's never a scandal
  • Jewish groups battle over Trump's choice for Israel ambassador
  • Israeli govt and its supporters admit the fight to defeat BDS has failed
    • This is good news but forgive me for being skeptical. Where is the evidence for the growth in BDS? Can someone please provide financial numbers? Is Israel truly taking a hit? I am the only person I know in my social circle (and I know a lot of progressives) who boycotts Israeli products. So I find it hard to believe that Israeli opponents of BDS are quaking in their shoes. But I would love to be proven wrong.

    • How is it that supremacists like Levy demand a Jewish state, but would recoil in horror at the idea of a White state? Yes, there are many de facto White states, but if immigration trends continue, they won't remain de facto White states, so why do the Jews get a state, but no nation is allowed to shape its immigration policy to remain majority White? The hypocrisy is quite galling.

  • To oppose Trump, Jews must join the fight against fascism and Zionism
    • And you don't find that incredibly inconsistent, given their enthusiastic support for Israel's straight up anti Gentile immigration policy and ITS illegal wall that cuts through Palestinian land? Please gain some self awareness.

  • Rand Paul warns neocons will 'scurry in' with Abrams, and Kristol says that's anti-Semitic
    • What is needed is giving back to the neocons what they viciously dish out. When will we start calling THEM bigots and anti Arabs and Jewish supremacists? Make it stick! Stop being on the defense I say.

  • British uproar at Trump policies doesn’t extend to Netanyahu, yet
    • Careful now RoHa, don't you know you are supposed to treat Trump like the devil here? It must never be pointed out that Trump's wall WOULD be legal and that his proposed immigration policy is to Israel's truly racist immigration policy what a Chiwawa is to a pit bull.

    • “I don’t know enough about Palestine and Israel – it’s complicated and a sensitive topic. But what Trump is doing is obvious. He discriminates against women, Muslims, and migrants – and many people belong in one or all of these categories,” Davies said. - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2017/02/british-policies-netanyahu/#sthash.CHn7ZhMM.dpuf

      Really now. She doesn't realize that Israel has a far stricter immigration policy that is explicitly anti Gentile? The idea that Trump is discriminating but Israel is not is so absurd. But it is typical of clueless progressives across the West.

      And sorry, I don't buy this notion that Trump's unpopularity with the Left is going to somehow work to Palestine's favor. Palestine is far down on the SJW to do list. They care far more about racial issues and identity politics to care enough about Palestine to make a difference. All it does is further alienate the people who support Trump from those of us who want to see Palestine freed from actual racist policies and illegal walls.

  • Why Trump is even thinking about naming pro-Israel apparatchik who opposed him to high position
    • No, it is NOT copacetic. Nothing about Israeli nationalism matches what is right about American nationalism. For all of our faults, we have made our indigenous people full citizens. Our wall will be on our legal border. We aren't obligated under international law to allow for a return of Palestinian refugees.

      Abrams and Ross and the others get away with their blatant Israel first orientation because our side is too afraid to brand them as Jewish supremacists! You guys think RICHARD SPENCER is any worse than these transparently bigoted Jews?

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  • Israeli Knesset set to vote on 'unconstitutional' Palestinian land appropriation bill
    • Don't call them Jewish communities, call them what they are: Jews ONLY colonies. Why others here aren't doing this is beyond me. We must start branding Israeli apologists in ways that completely delegitimize them. After all, they spend their whole effort in delegitimizing anyone who stands up for Palestinians as "anti Semites." And it works!

  • Obama fostered spread of nuclear weapons because of his naivete, says head of Council on Foreign Relations
    • I won't excuse Obama's at best, inaction on Palestine, though I do applaud him for the Iran deal. Bu then again, he should have never imposed sanctions on Iran regardless.

    • There is no evidence Assad gassed his own people in that specific incident that almost led to US direct intervention. I am not aware of evidence for any other alleged attack either. Are you? I trust Seymour Hersh more than I do Haas or Wolf Blitzer.

    • He is, like Dennis Ross, a supremacist. No way around it. These are not stupid people. They know what they are saying is misleading.

    • Ding ding ding! I have shown this link to countless HRC supporters, only to get the label "conspiracy theorist" thrown at me. The DNC Left has destroyed the anti war movement by keeping people caught up in political tribalism.

    • For goodness sake! Will someone please show me proof that Assad "gassed" his own people? There is no evidence he did. at least no evidence for the one incident that almost led Obama directly intervening with the military.

      Haas pretends not to know that Obama DID a lot in Syria, by allowing the CIA to fund Al Qaeda affiliates and ISIS in Syria, and by allowing our so called allies, from Israel to Saudi Arabia, to Turkey, to give aid and comfort to Al Qaeda and ISIS.

  • Israel has had a 'Muslim ban' from the start
  • Under Trump we cannot expect 'the system' to protect us, but we can protect ourselves
    • Who is this "we"? All citizens of the world? Give me a break. This is the kind of looniness which does nothing to further the cause for Palestinian self determination. Nations have the right to meaningful borders. Our people have the right to decide which cultures are invited. It is that simple.

  • Dennis Ross's advice to Trump is 'bullshit, delusional or lying,' to gut two-state concept -- Peace Now
    • He isn't delusional. He is a Jewish supremacist! He knows exactly what his "solution" means.

    • because our side does not effectively label frauds like Ross!

    • Call this man what he clearly is, a Jewish supremacist. Anyone as smart as Dennis Ross is a bigot if he or she is proposing such a one sided solution.

      Till we start effectively counter branding opposition to Palestinian rights, this man will continue to make the rounds on American TV networks, always coming across as concerned and wise, when in reality he is nothing more than a ultra tribalist.

  • 'Come all ye faithful' and 'Kiss my Jewish ass, Donald' -- sacred and profane mix at NY demos
    • Indeed! And one would think they would spend as much time fighting against the reason for the refugee crisis in the first place.

  • Rallies at White House and airports across the US as outrage builds over Muslim ban
    • how about just end the cause of the crisis, violent regime change?

    • So why should anyone take an Israeli seriously when he or she complains about US immigration policy? Shouldn't they be protesting their nation's truly racist and anti Gentile immigration policy?

    • I find it sad that so few of these people ever thought about protesting Obama when he was destabilizing Libya and Syria, thus causing the refugee crisis.

    • Easily impressed I guess. Not me. Where was this guy when Obama was destabilizing Libya and Syria?

    • Where is the passion for ending the cause of this refugee crisis, the intentional neocon and neoliberal destabilization of the Middle East? I think it is buried beneath an intense need to virtue signal, to out virtue signal others, rather than stop problems at their source.

    • It has always been about Israel, not oil. I wish more understood this. Iran is our enemy for one reason. Israel hates Iran.

      Notice that the bill's sponsor is the liberal Black Caucus member, Al C Hastings? Whoever thinks that the so called progressives will save us are full of it.

    • Why aren't these hypocrites protesting their own countries racist immigration policy and refusal to take in one Palestinian refugee?

      At least they critiqued Israel's policy toward North Africans (from link above): "The policies that Trump has enacted are no worse than the policies that [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu has enacted for years here – such as not allowing any non-Jews to be given refugee status in Israel, except for a select few.’’

      Togod Omar, a native of Sudan who was at the protest, said he applied for political asylum in Israel three years ago, and is still waiting. He said Sudanese friends hoping to be resettled in the U.S. were upset by the new executive order."

    • Wouldn't the best solution to the refugee problem be to stop the cause of the problem, the destabilization of the ME? And I just heard Chuckie Shumer was crying over this controversy at a press conference. Why does our side let he and other Jewish liberals get away with their horrendous hypocrisy on the immigration issue? Where is their passion for justice when it comes to Palestinian refugees?

  • Trump's anti-interventionism helped him win, says Obama's former Middle East adviser
    • At least signs indicate he won't be carrying out Israel's Oded Yinon plan of ME destabilization.

    • no, I don't think many BS supporters voted for Trump at all

      I think the term racist, when thrown around so easily, is Leftwing jargon. Why make this Palestinian cause Left or Right wing? You will never succeed in ending the oppression of the Palestinians till you get the American masses of different ideologies on the same side.

      When I say Trump hater, I am referring specifically to those who didn't seem to mind the awful neocon and neoliberal policies of Obama and HRC, but see such evil in Trump. I have no problem with dissent against Trump, just despise the lack of consistency among so many who hate him.

    • here here

    • Then why hasn't Mexico done more to stop ISRAEL'S wall?

    • It is precisely why I voted for Trump! Most of his haters don't seem to have a clue that their failed candidate, HRC, was the warmonger. Not that this means Trump is some kind of Ron Paul whom I can trust to disentangle us from the ME.

  • Leading Clintonite worries that Trump will sell out Israel in forging deal with Russia
    • illegal occupation? For Crimea? Give us a break. The Crimeans wanted to rejoin Russia. And WE destabilized Ukraine.

    • But Flournoy said that based on the advisers Trump has in place, the Trump administration is likely to be very tough in its dealings with Iran. It will keep the Iran deal but “add cooperation with Israel and others in the region to push back harder on Iran’s destabilizing activity and support for terrorism.” - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2017/01/leading-clintonite-worries/#sthash.Bb39QV49.dpuf

      It never ceases to amaze me how they can say IRAN is the aggressor and destabilizer in the ME. All because it supports Hezbollah, which only exists to protect Lebanon from Israeli aggression? Give me a break. Her rant is just more proof that the anti Assad hysteria has always been about Israel. Never mind the mess and misery made of the destabilization of Syria, Israel must have its strategic goals met, come hell or high water!

      And even if Putin was not going after ISIS, which he has, why would ISIS be HIS responsibility? He was not the one that looked with favor at the rise of ISIS (see 2012 DIA Memo). He is not the one that has "accidentally" dropped equipment and supplies to ISIS. He is not the one that allowed ISIS to drive across the desert of Syria to re-take Palmyra. But It is Putin's responsibility? It isn't enough for him to be helping Assad against Al Qaeda in Western, and Northern Syria?

  • Muslims in the US brace for Trump immigration ban
    • It is the PNAC agenda that has led to the refugee problem!

    • Then Japan is racist. China is racist. Israel is racist. Why is it so racist to protect the demographic balance in a nation? It is not hateful to want control on which cultures can enter and which can not. Why are only White nations supposed to relinquish their majority status? Just looking for consistency here.

      Also, I am pretty sure the solution to the refugee crisis is NOT to allow millions of Middle Eastern Muslims to immigrate to "White, Christian" majority nations, but to end these stupid wars of destabilization that are draining the ME of so many of its best people.

    • Why do American Muslims who are citizens or here legally, need to "brace" for new immigration restrictions? Trump is not saying he wants to kick out Muslim citizens or those legally here.

  • Obama 'betrayed' American Jews and Trump is a 'swineherd' -- Bernard-Henri Levy
    • Jesus Christ! How in the world is Trump anti Semitic? Hate Trump all you want, but please stop with the drama queen over the top accusations.

    • The reason why BDS is appropriate for Israel but not for Syria, is that Israel is dominated by one ethnic group, who has seriously oppressed an out group and consistently refused to toss out its supremacist leaders. You can't say the same about Syria. The Alawites of Syria do not experience anywhere near the privilege Jews do in Israel, and even the occupied territories. So called democracies are always much better candidates for sanctions, cause the people of supposed autocracies have no say in their govt's policies. I don't think the hostility toward the Assad regime is even justified, but, even if it was, the people of Syria would not deserve sanctions, if they really had no voice in their govt. like the people of Israel do.

  • Obama's failure, and achievement, in Palestine
    • Yep! These people would waste opportunities for reach change if it meant spiting all the Trump supporters they see as deplorable.

    • He didn't do anything to fundamentally strengthen the economy. The Fed kept interest rates are virtually zero per cent interest, so there was only a re-inflation of the bubble. And that 10 Trillion in new debt is quite an accomplishment eh?

      But you are correct that he fostered even more moral hazard with his own bailouts. He even supported the one that W pushed before leaving office, which should have signaled to everyone his real character.

    • "Both involved standing up to the war profiteers. The Iran deal removed the main excuse for the MIC’s next war, and was done in the face of extreme political pressures on all fronts. While working hard to assure Jews of security, he advanced the discussion toward justice and away from the abject, subversive subservience to Israel, the Israel lobby, and the vicious war profiteering banksters behind them." - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2017/01/failure-achievement-palestine/comment-page-1/#comment-867776

      When did he stand up to them on Libya and Syria and Yemen? If Americans had not objected to more war, Obama would have bombed Syria, and ISIS or AQ would now be in control of Damascus. Certainly he never stopped the CIA from arming AQ in Syria. And he even looked with favor at the rise of ISIS, as a counterweigh to Assad, as we can see in the 2012 DIA Memo.

      Yes, he would have been up against a vile group of people and interests had he chosen to do the right thing, but so what? SOMEONE has to be the first to try to make change on this issue. So he gets ZERO respect from me for the utter waste he made of an opportunity to at least help shape the American consciousness. I seriously think the reflexive praise for Obama from some on the Left is because he is Black. Face facts: Obama is a craven and selfish politician. He was a cruel hoax.

    • What makes you so confident that the rank and file Democrats will care enough about the I/P issue to actually demand a change? I just don't see it. Each identity group is obsessed with their own situation. And BLM will never influence the majority of Americans. Time to get realistic and work accordingly! The real change will come when patriotic Americans no longer see Israel as our friend.

  • Fordham bans Students for Justice in Palestine
    • Then why are you here? I disagree quite often with the people who post on this site, but I would never think of them as "bad" people. Put a mirror in front of your face! Try self awareness.

  • 'Constructed crisis for political ends': anti-Semitism claims are prime weapon for UK Israel lobby, Al Jazeera shows
    • Better yet, why not convince Trump supporters that Israel is not the true friend of the US? Appeal to their patriotism! On the other hand, if you make this about the anti Trump movement, you will completely alienate almost everyone who voted for him. There are many Trump supporters who are potential allies! You can still oppose Trump, without tying the Palestinian cause to your agenda. In fact, you are hurting this cause by alienating Trump supporters.

    • How true. There is very little social opprobrium heaped on anyone who criticizes the worst aspects of Islam, but if you dare suggest that a sub group of Jews is not loyal to their nation, or are anything less than angelic victims, then you are branded as a dirty anti Semite, and your career is in danger.

    • I am curious Hophmi, what is the word you give for those like yourself who hate Palestinians for daring to fight against Israeli repression? Again, putting the mirror in front of your face!

  • Antisemitism and its useful idiots
    • What glorification of White nationalism? Trump has not called for immigration policy based on race. You guys are hurting your own cause by exaggerating about Trump. What is truly frightening is that someone as bold as Trump is nonetheless, just as craven as the next guy when it comes to Israel. But then again, maybe he is just ignorant about the matter, and trusts his Jewish daughter.

    • As a Trump voter, and someone who knows many Trump supporters, please believe me when I tell you that not one of them wants a Jew free US. Steve Bannon doesn't even want that. If anything, Trump supporters (I voted for him, but I can't say I am a supporter on many issues) are largely philo-Semitic. Don't believe me? Just visit theconservativetreehouse.com, and read the comments. Most there support Israel very strongly, and reserve their hatred for Muslims.

      It seems that many in this movement think that they can disarm the accusations of anti Semitism by accusing Trump supporters of it.

  • Mock campaign supporting two-state solution reveals liberal Israeli racism
    • Seriously, what is wrong with you? Google Jeff Sessions for info about his role in desegregation. What part of the nation do you live in? Did you go to predominantly Black schools, live in Black neighborhoods, etc.?

      Jim Crow was government mandated segregation FYI. I know of no one who wants a return to that.

    • It has been clear to me for years that Israel will eventually annex huge parts of the West Bank, and press for the bits of Palestine that remain to be confederated with Jordan, as if that makes things ok for the dispossessed Palestinians. If you read the comments section across the internet, the Hasbarists clearly think or dishonestly argue that Palestinians came from Jordan, and that Jordan is the only true Palestinian homeland. I can see Israel making a take it or leave it offer with large-scale support from our stupid and craven American politicians.

      And I find it so ironic that Jewish senators like Al Franken have been grilling Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions about his role in the desegregation of Alabama, but would never in a million years acknowledge and criticize the presence of Jim Crow in Israel and the occupied territories. This hypocrisy on the part of the Jewish establishment must be exposed.

  • It turns out Jews are as stupid as everyone else
  • Origins of a golden shower
    • You believe the anti Russian propaganda? Russia Russia Russia. The Democrats and the neocons are revealing their inner Jan Brady.

      Do you agree with them that PUTIN is the one who has destabilized Ukraine and Syria?

  • US watched ISIS rise in Syria and hoped to 'manage' it -- Kerry on leaked tape
    • Great article Phil. But the reason Leftists are afraid to go there, is that they do not want to be labeled "conspiracy theorists." They know that the MSM will never reveal enough of the truth to the American people for truth-telling about Syria to be believed. And most of them are even more terrified of the consequences of exposing Israel's role in supporting the violence against the Assad regime, and his many supporters as well.

  • The truck attack that killed four Israeli soldiers in Jerusalem was not 'terrorism'
    • I dare you to research the Oded Yinon Plan. Besides, Israeli leaders have made it clear through their own words that they prefer the so called rebels vs Assad. Yes, Israel has even given medical care to injured Al Qaeda fighters in Syria. Israel and the US have both used Islamic extremists as their Emanuel Goldstein at times and as their ally at other times. This is one of those times.

      And isn't it telling that you want violence unleashed on the majority supported and secular Syrian regime but not the truly revolting House of Saud or the truly tyrannical Sisi of Egypt. Face it, your Jewish supremacist tendencies are showing. You care not a wink for Syrians. Save us the crocodile tears.

    • Israel has regularly acted as the Air Force for Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria, by attacking the Syrian Arab Army, but never AQ or ISIS. Why our side is not proclaiming this fact every chance we can is beyond me. The American people see an Arab killing a Jew and they think terror. It is that simple. Now if they knew that the Jew was a soldier for a state that supports ISIS in Syria, then maybe we could get some minds to change.

  • There is no such thing as 'Progressive Except Palestine'
    • These are often the people who wanted us to take out Assad, Gaddafi, and are easily duped into supporting interventions that always seem to be part of the neocon/Oded Yinon Likudnik game plan. Of course, many supporters of the Palestinian cause have supported these interventions as well, which is just mind blowing to me. Shouldn't they know better?

  • 'Progressive' Defenders of the Racial State: Reflections on the Modern Language Association BDS vote
    • A new actor? I was in a PhD program a few years ago, and observed several Jewish progressive professors frequently speak about racism, but NEVER talk about Zionist supremacism in Israel and the occupied territories. It really is disgusting to see the hypocrisy of so many on the academic Left.

  • Netanyahu has isolated Israel and is driving the US 'off a cliff into chaos' -- Lloyd Doggett
    • Atlantaiconoclast January 8, 2017 at 3:13 pm

      Blame the donors? No, blame lies squarely with those who are too craven and who care more about ambition than doing the right thing.

  • Booker slams UN resolution as 'anti-Israel,' while Saban says it's anti-American
    • Atlantaiconoclast January 7, 2017 at 1:26 pm

      If Trump is able to revive the economy and stop illegal immigration, end massive legal immigration, I don't think any of this will matter, UNLESS we are able to get people across the US to see that Israel is a big liability and not a true friend. Zionism won't fail till the sugar daddy stops subsidizing it.

    • But how do we explain this to people without being called anti Semitic? Without being accused of bringing up "old canards" about Jews?

  • Democratic politicians want no part of Obama's courage at the U.N.
    • You could make the same argument regarding Trump. He HAD to adopt an Israel first set of talking points to please the Christian Zionists and the hardcore Jewish Zionists like Adelson. It is not an excuse! Obama was a hoax, at least Trump hasn't claimed to care about justice in Palestine.

  • Resolution for 2017: Stop substituting 'the occupation' for 'Zionism'
    • thanks for seeing my sarcasm

    • Mooser, I could care less if YOU think I am anti Semitic. I was being sarcastic.

      I don't agree that most conservatives are frustrated over the Civil Rights Act of the 60s. Most are eager to prove they are not racist. But yes, many of the Alt Righters do want freedom of association. But even they don't think that is as important as a general shrinking of state power and an end to political correctness and anti White ideology.

      I want a complete end to all aid to Israel. If Israel wants to embrace its apartheid aspects, let it do so on its own dime. And let it face its wars ALONE. Meanwhile, I will be boycotting Israel at the consumer level. I don't expect my govt to do these things for me. And FYI, Jim Crow was most wrong for it was state mandated discrimination as are the Jews ONLY colonies.

      In my personal life, I am in an interracial relationship and do not set a color requirement for friendship. But I don't think it is my right to force others to see things the way I do in that regard. Also, Blacks in the North were not that free. I think you have this need to demonize the South.

    • Here is another one: settlements. Why are we using that word? Why not call them what they really are? Jews ONLY colonies! I swear, even the most anti Israel person rarely uses these three words to describe what Israel is doing in the West Bank.

      Maybe if all of us started using "Jews ONLY colonies," we might get people to see how today's Israel has very much in common with the old Jim Crow South and its Whites ONLY accommodations.

      Or am I being "anti Semitic"?

  • Netanyahu's holy war, and the coming Jewish schism
    • The America firster Trump supporters, at least not those completely deranged by their Zionist ideology, whether Christian or Jewish, are the very people who would become most anti Israel if the truth about what Israel has done to us ever got out. These are the people who could sway Trump, not liberal Jews and Christians.

  • Hate speech and hypocrisy: Some Jews will swallow anything, if it comes from Donald Trump
    • So calling Kristol a rogue Jew is the basis for this belief that Bannon hates Jews? And didn't a Jew at Breitbart write that ? And why is Breitbart tainted because a few of trump's supporters are white nationalists but Bernie Sanders and neocons are NOT TAINTED by their connections to Marxism? Who has killed more in the 20th Century? White nationalists or Marxists?

  • A bi-national, democratic state is the only option Israel and Kerry has left us with
    • Many? I hope that is true, but do you have figures to document this?

    • We don't use leverage against Israel was my point, but there is that potential that remains until our economy crashes so hard that Israel will no longer assume it can depend on us.

    • And unless the US economy crashes to a Depression era level and our influence wanes, the American people will need to be exposed to the truth about Israel's harm to American interests if things are to change.

  • Why Obama waited 8 years to take on Netanyahu
    • Israel is one of the parties who encouraged the slaughter in Syria by pushing for regime change. Hophmi, do you think Netanyahu would hesitate to cause massive collateral damage if HIS regime were under siege by not just bottle rockets, but by massively armed Islamic insurgents from all over the world? Give us a break. You have no moral high ground on Syria. NONE.

    • Respected? Yeah right, He is a fool and a cruel hoax.

    • "We need another speech informing the American people about the CRIMES of Israel, against both Palestinians and Americans." - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/12/obama-waited-netanyahu/comment-page-1/#comment-864995

      Yes indeed!!!!!!!!!! This is THE only way to change things. I have been hearing about changing perspectives in the Jewish community for years now. And what has it wrought? We are even farther away from a just settlement.

    • Why are people so afraid to use that word, conspiracy? It just means two or more plotting to do something in secret or without publicizing it.

    • They used to have them on quite often, even during the height of the suicide bombings. Fox has only become more hardcore pro Israel. They literally have no one on there to share the Palestinian perspective. Even Juan Williams has been cucked.

    • CNN and MSNBC have small audiences. Once Fox starts bringing Palestinians back on then I will have some hope.

  • The formal end of the two-state solution
    • Yonah, have you heard of two state condominialism? I would love to get your perspective on it. I think it could be the most realistic just settlement. https://openborders.info/blog/tag/two-state-condominialism/

    • I sure wish I shared your optimism. I don't think most people on the Left have a clue how deep seated the worship of Israel is across America, mostly among Christians. We have a huge problem that will prevent any progress: this pervasive belief that Israel is our dear friend and super ally. I am not religious but have considered giving to Christian preachers who debunk the heresy of Christian Zionism. I could look past some of their theology for the time being. Why are these brave people not getting more attention here? If Christian America, including the quickly growing Latino community, learned the truth, things would dramatically change.

      We must find ways to dismantle this myth that Israel is our friend. If we don't, nothing will change. I want all those who are over 48 to think about the fact that Israel's occupation has lasted longer than we have been alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you want to die without seeing a change for the better?

      I urge everyone to brainstorm ways to reach the masses so that this special relationship undergoes a hard divorce. How do we convince the masses that Israel is not in the right? Show how it has not be an ally!!!!!!!!!

  • Kerry hasn't cleared his throat, and Trump and Hoyer are jumping down it
    • It is rather disgusting eh? I can remember a time when, even when suicide bombers were blowing up Israelis, even Fox would often have a Palestinian perspective on. No more. Our media is controlled to the max by Zionists or those who fear them.

  • Israeli hysteria over UN vote is solidifying country's new status, as a rogue state
    • I used to watch Fox quite a lot, and what is so ironic is that at the height of the suicide bombings within Israel, even Fox would regularly have on Palestinian voices or those sympathetic to the Palestinian cause. However, at the same time that the violence from the Palestinians began to seriously wane, the mainstream networks stopped bringing on pro Palestinian voices. Things have gotten much worse since the mid 2000s in terms of media fairness, and even prior to that, things were not good!

      I think they key reason is the perception among Americans that Israel is our best friend and besieged by Islamic terror. Somehow, our side has to find a way to dismantle this meme.

    • Most Trump supporters that I have come across are either neutral about Israel or hardcore pro Israel.

      Very few complain about aid to Israel.

  • One-state solution gets fairer shake in a NY synagogue than it gets in NY Times or MSNBC
    • According to Zionist Jews and Christian Zionists, all Jews who show some semblance of compassion for the Palestinians are self hating Jews. So not sure how much impact there will be if even a majority of American Jews come to oppose the status quo favoring Israel. Phil, would you please consider interviewing American Evangelicals who are challenging the dominant Christian Zionist narrative?

      I am not a Christian, well not anymore, but I have seen a number of anti Zionist Christians of varying stripes on youtube who would make for very interesting subjects. Alliances can be made with these people.

  • Scenes from a neoconservative meltdown
    • YOUR lobby has most of the blood on its hands for promoting the destabilization of Syria. You tell me what leader would not do what Assad has done if they were up against Islamic savages trying to overthrow it! All these crocodile tears over Syrians from hateful Zionists!

    • What makes you think I have not? I do all the time, though theconservativetreehouse.com kicked me off of their forums forcing me to use another username and modify my words. If you think I am hard on folks here, you should see me there. Still, I don't think I get rude or personal with those with whom I disagree.

      As for the apartheid comment, I don't support forced segregation. I do support freedom of association. And I believe the withering of the state would open up wonderful possibilities for more peaceful co-existence.

    • Certainly! I agree 100%.

      Still, there is room for using this to our advantage. For example, if we can show how Israel has sown discord in the ME, supporting Al Qaeda and even ISIS in Syria, by serving as their Air Force, by treating their injured fighters, then we might change the dynamic to our favor.

      We can also benefit by not branding everyone who is legitimately concerned about Islamist culture as an Islamophobe. With all of the attention given to terror in the news, is it any wonder so many Americans are terrified of Muslims?

    • I peruse conservative and mainstream columns regularly, and I am telling you, Israel's greatest ammunition is the unchallenged meme that it is America's best friend!

      If we are to ever make any progress on this issue, we must systematically dismantle this myth and show that Israel is indeed NOT an ally. Not even SJWs though, acknowledge how wrong the meme has been. They just focus on appealing to concern for human rights and political identity.

      But even if SJWs were demolishing the big Israel is our best ally myth, we need to move beyond just SJWs. We need to reach out to the masses.

      Do you want to make a difference? Or do you just want to keep feeling politically correct?

  • Obama stands up to Trump (and Israel)
    • Plenty of non Jews were very upset about this move by Obama.

      Just visit theconservativetreehouse.com and see for yourself. I think these people could be persuaded, IF American interests were highlighted.

  • Desperate Netanyahu lectures Obama about US responsibility to veto UN resolution
    • Two hardcore Zionists and one lukewarm Zionist are brought onto CNN to discuss Israel. Not surprising. I would be impressed if they had just put ONE real Jewish anti Zionist on the panel to debate these two racist Jews.

    • I have zero sympathy for the fraud that is Obama. This fool has had 8 years to pressure Israel to stop settlement expansion. He has never even tried.

      He will go down in history as the biggest cruel hoax of all time.

      And we already have plenty of UN Resolutions on this issue. Nothing will change till the American people decide Israel is not our friend.

  • Adelson and Saban were kingmakers, now they're beggars
    • I try, but I would have more success if I was joined by people spending so much energy in ways that never seem to change the situation for the better.

      Yes, Christian Zionists are a tough nut to crack, but they are also patriots, and if they can be shown that Israel has taken us to war for ITS interests, rather than OUR's, that it has spied, and actually attacked the US in different ways, some of which are obvious in FBI Reports but remain shrouded by gatekeepers afraid of being called anti Semitic.

    • I wish you guys would focus on changing minds of the greater body politic of the US. There will never be enough anti Zionist Jews to make much of a difference when there are so many Christian Zionists and people who have no clue what has really happened in Palestine. And they will not be moved by the suffering of Palestinians, but by appeals to American interests.

  • Deborah Lipstadt's double standard on white nationalism and Jewish nationalism
    • She certainly does not condemn Jewish nationalism as she does White nationalism.

    • The only thing Phil gets wrong is the notion that Americans will ever care much about what Israelis have done in Palestine. They WILL care if they learn what Israel has done to the US.

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