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BillR

Adjunct instructor in Latin American history. Old political activist, mostly on LA stuff. Been anti-Zionist for as long as can remember. Lost my sensitivity to charge of being anti-Semite when an old friend of mine and I were called ant-Semitic for our opposition to Israeli invasion and occupation of Lebanon in 1982. My friend had been in resistance in Nazi occupied Norway and smuggled Jew out of country. This was very enlightening moment for me. You have a nice site, please continue and good luck.

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  • Panic and shock sweep Cairo
    • Ok,
      This really is the last one. It occurs to me that Mondoweiss readers may need a little education on this. So let me be clear. The "Angry Arab" is a radical secular (atheist) political scientist who is originally from Lebanon and is radically anti-Zionist. No doubt people will make of it what they will, but I can't help that. This site ironically needs a little education on the Arab world and politics. I hope you get it soon, cuz otherwise the Richard Wittys and EEEs of the world are going to kick your proverbial (and naive) ass.

    • Last one cuz I gotta go to bed.

      Aljazeera joins the attacks on Qopts
      "It is rather expected from the network of the Arab counter-revolution: Aljazeera's chief correspondent in Cairo is a mere propagandist for the Military Council. The headline of Aljazeera says: "confrontations by Qopts against Egyptian soldiers". It is more than insidious: it is rather blatant. When an Egyptian guest suggested that maybe the Egyptian government is responsible: the anchor, Khadijah Bin Qannah, interrupted him. But there are security forces who are killed. And the Qopts are reported by our correspondent to be carrying weapons. What irony in her interruptions. Compare its coverage of Egypt with its coverage and Syria."

      link to angryarab.blogspot.com

    • Alison sent me this from Cairo (I cite with her permission): "tonight is worth telling you about. i went down to abdel moneim riad with a bunch of egyptian friends after hearing the maspiro protest spreading and knowing full well the inflammatory things the SCAF said= that the Copts were attacking the military. we went down to find the old tahrir protesters throwing rocks back at the thugs on the other side by the ramses hilton. this went on for a while till it turned to molotovs and people getting carried away badly hurt. we weren't completely sure what was happening, and suddenly they stopped attacking. but then when we thought it was over and they had been messing with us in a stupid scaf game, suddenly the military attacked. they spread out and chased us down side streets and were arresting people. we made it to a friends house which overlooks the bridge and saw not salafeyyeen but baltagi marching and chanting islameyya islameyya... and the army was among them !!
      friends tried to give blood at the coptic hospital on ramses and they couldn't get close because the thugs were blocking the door. amry was there but they don't do anything. reports of others getting beaten up but hopefully you can talk to people who are there now and were at maspiro. so there you go.
      now the thugs are beating up people in front of the coptic hospital and setting a fire outside. lets see how far SCAF goes."
      Posted by As'ad AbuKhalil at 5:13 PM

      link to angryarab.blogspot.com

    • "The blatant and hateful sectarian agitation against Copts on Egyptian regime TV is quite disgusting. They are not even trying to be subtle about it. Wahhabi influence has reached the Military Council."
      Posted by As'ad AbuKhalil (AKA "The Angry Arab")

      link to angryarab.blogspot.com

  • Mondoweiss liveblogs the UN General Assembly speeches
    • Not to be a killjoy, ok that's not true I am trying to be a killjoy, I think the bid for UN recognition is a very bad idea. In that spirit I am offering a link below for this argument. The writer actually has more in common with Mondoweiss than I do, in so far as he accepts the Walt/Mearsheimer thesis of a genuine US "national interest" that has been hijacked by the Israeli lobby, a thesis I think is patently wrong. But his analysis of reasons to oppose Abbas and the PA's bid for UN recognition is--I believe--right on the money. His summation of what has befallen Palestinians since Madrid and then Oslo is also, I think, very pertinent to the present situation and I hope very sobering for many on this site.
      Sincerely,
      A Killjoy

      link to counterpunch.org

  • The Palmer/Uribe Report: Another attempt by Israel to whitewash murder
    • Alvaro Uribe? OMG! I am a Latin American Historian by training. I recommend this link. It is possible it will not come up as I have a subscription to this journal and it is why I can access it. Hopefully it will appear. It is a very informative piece.

    • Alvaro Uribe? OMG! I am a Latin American Historian by training. I recommend this link. It is possible it will not come up as I have a subscription to this journal and it is why I can access it. Hopefully it will appear. It is a very informative piece.

      Ok, I canceled the link cuz it came up with my name and password info to enter. It is a piece from the New Left Review 23, Sept-Oct. 2003 issue called "Evil Hour in Colombia" by Forrest Hylton. It is very informative and I recommend purchasing it if you have the time and interest.

  • Exulting over Libya
  • Steve Walt edges ever closer to... One democratic state
    • “Let’s put the hysterics aside.
      If you think a one state is possible, how can it be possible with 99% of the Jews in Israel being “racist” like me?
      Do you really think we will one day look around and say: Wow, what a great idea, let’s be a minority in an Arab country!
      That will never happen…”

      The last time I left a comment of any kind on a website was here at Mondoweiss. Seeing as how it was essentially a middle finger to Phil and this site, I never expected to leave another one. I still check in here from time to time, though. On my first encounter I had high hopes for this site which, for reasons that could fill a monograph, I eventually lost. That is no biggie to Phil and the site I’m sure, cuz to quote an old proverb, “It’s your world, I only live in it.” Because of that I expect this comment will be interpreted as a hostile one. It is not and I write it with sadness. In spite of his rather bizarre suggestion that I left out from the above quote that it is Palestinians who have failed to negotiate in good faith with Israel, eee is far more prescient and correct in his assessment than Phil and his followers on the current state of the Israel/Palestine question. I don’t say this happily, cuz I find eee’s views repulsive. But the future for Palestinians is, I believe, an extremely bleak one. Not that a website could change that, cuz it couldn’t. But unfortunately, I am afraid this site will become not more, but less relevant in the coming weeks/months/years. Again I say this with sadness, and I hope that I am proved wrong.

  • Saudis admit they supported Libya attack to mute US criticism of Bahrain
  • Libya/Gaza
    • Whoa! Keith, an intelligent comment. On Mondoweiss. Stop the presses. This is damn near unprecedented. Thank you.

    • “Truthfully, I’m thrilled, I think Qaddafi will be gone within days, just as I said, correctly, that Mubarak would be gone…”

      Err, I guess.

      February 7, 2011: “It helps to know something about Egypt if you’re writing about it. (I guess). Here’s a really smart piece by Joshua Stacher of Kent State at Foreign Affairs saying that the “democratic window has probably already closed,” that the regime has never broken down, its central institution, the military, remaining as powerful as ever. And now the gov’t is successfully playing the young demonstrators off against the ordinary citizens’ desire for normal times.
      --Philip Weiss

  • Elite flavor of Egyptian revolution allows it to cross our borders
    • Just checked in to see if you answered Avi's question. I see that you haven't. Oh well. In thinking about Ghonim and those who heart him I believe a riff on an old SNL routine will work best:
      I think what I am feeling can best be expressed in the words of the poet, Mahmoud Darwish (and this seems so appropriate given he appears to be the Arab cultural flavor of the month). So I refer to his loving homage to a suicide bomber.

      I love life
      On earth, among the pines and the fig trees
      But I can't reach it, so I took aim
      With the last think that belonged to me

    • “Meet the new boss…”

      “Dear Egyptians, Go back to your work on Sunday, work like never before and help Egypt become a developed country.”
      --Wael Ghonim

      " Since yesterday, and actually earlier, middle-class activists have been urging Egyptians to suspend the protests and return to work, in the name of patriotism, singing some of the most ridiculous lullabies about "let's build new Egypt," "let's work harder than even before," etc. In case you didn't know, actually Egyptians are among the hardest working people in the globe already."
      --Hossam el-Hamalawy, 2/14/2011

      “We are only starting now to think about the future,” said Mahmoud Ben Romdhane, a former university professor who heads the Mouvement Ettajdid, or Renewal Movement, a left-leaning political party. The danger, he said, is that “the revolutionary dynamic can go on forever.” [Indeed I can only imagine what a danger that would be!]
      --NYT, 2/14/2011 (“Tunisians Turn to Everyday Matters)

      So Phil your loving embrace of your class privilege is riveting. I don’t think I have seen such a passionate love sonnet to technological determinism since Joseph Stalin’s writings on Dialectical Materialism. Still, I would like to see your answer to compañero Avi’s question. As well as further clarifications on the shortcomings of Palestinian resistance to Israeli oppression owing to their failure to win empathetic identification from high income US professionals. It appears our love affair is over. I will miss it.

  • Ghonim on '60 Minutes' with the White Stripes as soundtrack-- can the west claim this revolution?
    • Sorry Avi,
      It was late and I was tired. Let us all celebrate the collapse of an odious regime.

    • I have been out walking my dog and then making and eating dinner with my wife. I have just checked the comments thread, it is late here in Denver, almost midnight and so 2:00 am in the east. I imagine this thread is done and I am writing to myself. Still, if not I want to say I am sorry to MRW for not noticing his earlier response to my post, and also to the ever present and deeply committed Annie for responding. I am touched to discover that you two have read my remarks (I am completely sincere in this and I assure you am not being flippant). I am accustomed, pretty much, to only having A) Phil respond to me or B) Responses from people who I would judge to be a bit "loopy" and so I tend not to look for other responses and I apologize. MRW thank you for your Huffington Post link. It is late and I have downloaded the piece, but it is long and I will not get to it until tomorrow. As for Annie, I deeply admire your commitment but am afraid, alas, that you and I will be forever at loggerheads. Thank you to MRW for your response to Annie and the question of who are "they." To answer your question Annie, if by "They" you mean Ahmed Moher, the "leader" of April 6, insofar as what I know of him was presented in a video from Al Jazeera that I personally found very troubling, you are correct that my initial impression is quite negative. This is true of my general impression of the entire piece by Al Jazeera and what I will for the moment refer to as the "myth" of April 6 as the "the young activists who brought it about" (the movement to topple Mubarak and this quote is from the Al Jazeera piece). Since, as MRW so kindly pointed out, there is no "they," I have been impressed by El Baradei, as well as his adviser and former Communist Party activist Zyad el-Elaimy, by leftist and Coptic Christian, Sally Moore, and by the Muslim Brotherhood and one of their leaders, Islam Lotfi. None of these individuals is a member of April 6 and all of them were every bit as important as April 6 in organizing the resistance. The failure to mention any of them by Al Jazeera and April 6 is troubling to say the least, especially insofar as they, as well as many others who I am sure I know nothing about, played such a key role in organizing the hundreds of thousands, and probably millions, of people out in the street, the overwhelming majority of whom were assuredly not "highly educated" and "computer literate." Who also were called out not by Tweeter or Facebook, but by people knocking on their doors and calling to them out in the street. The fact of the matter is that I have no doubt that the events would have transpired just as they did if Tweeter, Facebook, and YouTube did not exist. To put it differently, "How did those East Europeans in 1989 and those people in the Soviet Union in 1991 ever manage without Internet technology? I also have no doubt that without Tunisia, April 6 would have been lucky if they could have gotten 4 or 5 hundred individuals to march with them once in the year. In short, I found the Al Jazeera piece to be a bit of a crock. Thanks again for caring, it gives me hope.
      Bill

    • I find myself strangely enjoying this exchange. Again I apologize for any snarchiness on my part. Still, when the young man is saying to get the images out to western media, he is not merely seeking to constrain violent state repression (and frankly one disagreement that I suspect we will always have is that I can imagine that the army would not have fired on the crowds even without Facebook and YouTube videos), he is also seeking to represent to western media that he and his friends are the leaders of the revolution. And how do we know that? Well, because he and his friends have just told us so. The piece is patently self serving and not merely done selflessly in the interest of the Egyptian people as a whole. And he and his friends are virtually socially indistinguishable from those journalists working for Al Jazeera. They are a relatively well defined (and numerically marginal) part of the population. That they speak for the entirety of the Egyptian nation, or the Arab world, should be approached with caution. At least we can agree that it is enjoyable to watch their neighbors to the north sweat a little.
      Fondly,
      Bill

    • Phil,
      Apparently we are on the verge of a new millennium free of contradiction and we are being led there by “young, highly educated, computer literate” activists beloved by other “young, highly educated, computer literate” journalists at Al Jazeera. Welcome to Google’s brave new world! As to the young woman who says, “I heard about April 6 [movement] from Facebook. I am not into politics. I wanted to do something positive for my country. This is the happiest day of my life,” (as I witnessed on Adam Horowitz post) I am afraid not only do I not find this inspiring, I find it depressing.
      Your support and following of the toppling of Mubarak by a broad coalition of different social strata in Egyptian society was very welcome and I followed it avidly. But I confess I am a bit disturbed at what is transfiguring into an explicit intervention on your part into the current internal political situation in Egypt. If the Internet is truly as important as April 6, Al Jazeera, and you say it is (and I think this is debatable) than Mondoweiss is influential now and you are actively intervening in the midst of a political struggle, you are a participant in this political process now and not merely some outside passive observer. I am not opposed to this in principle (indeed it is the reason your site exists and why I follow it), but find myself a bit disturbed by what seems to me to be a rather uncritical assessment of the situation. If you intend to back a particular faction in Egyptian politics, that of Maher, Ghonim, and Google execs and civil engineers the world over, and promoting the narrative of these individual activists as “the young activists who bought it [the movement] about” that is cool but you owe it to your moral and political integrity to grant that you are intervening on the side of a particular faction, and not presenting it as backing some social whole (the “Egyptian people,” “Egyptian nation,” the “country of Egypt” or whatever) that is devoid of internal contradictions and differing factions. This politics presented as a non-politics (depolititization), and an ideology presented as non-ideological, which is so prevalent in Al Jazeera and internet and color revolutions (Ukraine so comes to mind here) the world over, has a history of several decades now, and the fruit it has born for Egypt and other parts of the “developing world” has been great for Google execs and pretty horrible for most of the rest. Egypt itself went from a relatively fast growing, dynamic Arab state to veritable fourth world status under the guidance of this non-ideological ideology.
      As for your assessment of the movement’s ideology, again I state it has demonstrated no coherent ideology and “human potential” is not an ideology. Tell me, what does April 6 believe is the role of the State in the future of Egypt? How does it assess the need for restructuring the relation between capital, labor, and the State? In what ways should Egypt reorganize and change it’s political/social/economic relations with the rest of the world, and how and in what way should Egypt be integrated into the global political economy? Apparently I have missed the answers to these questions that the leaders of April 6 have supplied. If you are not careful, you might find sometime in the future that you have moved from supporting the revolution to supporting its suppression, your own 18 Brumaire so to speak. Sorry to write in such a snarchy manner (I am in a hurry) and I do very much like your work, but….
      Bill

  • Window of democracy has likely already shut (and Hillary knocks at Suleiman's door)
    • Wow, this may be the first time ever that Phil Weiss is more pessimistic than me (I still heart you Phil). It seems to me that the game is not yet over. I can't help but think that there exists divisions within the military and that the institution is not as monolithic as the piece you quoted makes it out to be. I believe the biggest weakness of the movement is the lack of any coherent ideology (being "pro-democracy" and "anti-Mubarak" does not constitute an ideology). What this means is that whoever eventually achieves political power out of this crisis will most likely be a disappointment to the majority of Egyptians. But to assume that we are at the endgame and Hillary and Suleiman will win the day is, I think, premature.

  • New McCarthyism: Brooklyn College fires teacher who dared to speak out for Palestinian self-determination
    • I promised myself I wouldn't return to this. But I got curious. Gellian suffers from a toxic and lethal mixture of arrogance and ignorance. That must be why he assumes I am a "kid." I returned to school late in life. I will be 57 at the end of April. But no doubt Gellian has a monopoly of that old school wisdom while the rest of us must be immature rubes. I have been participating in anti-Zionist and pro-Palestinian politics for over 35 years now. I have had private communications with individuals on this site in which I have openly displayed a respect for Hamas and quite frankly I admire the leader of Hezbollah and his organization. I have been called an anti-Semite so many times that I have lost count. After awhile I began to view it as a compliment. I have many (and I mean many!) friends who have gotten their Doctorates over the years in political science and history by doing research on the Israel/Palestine conflict and have written anti-Zionist research. I have a friend now who is Palestinian/American currently working on getting tenure at a Univ which, assuming you live in NYC, is very close to you and very prestigious. She hates Israel and makes no secret of it in her research. All of these individuals were (or still are) at some point in their academic careers on tenure track but without tenure. And virtually all of them are now Associate or Full Profs with tenure. Your notion that there are Zionist Jews on the board of regents at every major university exercising conspiratorial control over all research in Arts and Sciences in stupid/ignorant loonyness, not to mention offensive, and quite frankly racist. I can honestly say that I long for the day when the State of Israel is washed away like the sand on the Ocean beach. But your Zionist conspiracy crap disgusts me.

    • Gellian,
      I can assure you that you are not frightening me "unduly." You're just annoying me. I'm outta of this one.

    • As a non-tenured university instructor who is militantly pro-Palestinian, I must say I find the tone of this "debate" to be--well--really depressing and not in the least helpful in aiding the cause of Palestine or Petersen-Overton. Although I suspect it would give sustenance to Alan Dershowitz.

  • Mr President, answer Matthew Lee of the AP: 'Why is it beneath the United States to come out and say something about this practitioner of nonviolence?'
    • To homingpigeon:
      I enjoyed your response. Actually, I think everybody has the right to give everybody advice. Let a hundred flowers bloom!

    • Yesterday (Dec 17) I left a comment after watching the wonderful video of the AP reporter, Matthew Lee, bravely asking questions of State Dept representatives on the fate of an imprisoned pacifist Palestinian resister, Abdallah Abu Rahmah, in Israel. I noted that in the video there was a clip of President Obama chastising the Palestinians for engaging in violent resistance against the state of Israel and then offering a revisionist account of the end of Apartheid in which violence played no part. I wrote this very quickly and then left to walk my dog in a state park. As frequently happens on this walk, I realized what was only on the edges of my consciousness at the moment I left the comment—in effect, why Obama’s revisionist history struck me as relevant to this issue. This was especially confirmed for me when I read another comment saying that the two things that terrified Israel were the BDS movement and the threat of non-violent resistance. I wish that was the case, but I don’t believe it is. As an older and unreconstructed red, I don’t know much about BDS and this new generation of anti-Zionist activists and what I do know generally comes from this website and Pulse. So too what I know of BDS and the resistance in Bil’in tends to come from here. The bravery and moral stature of Abu Rahmah and the protestors at Bil’in is very inspiring and commands the utmost respect. To be honest, I have some issues with the BDS movement, even as I have the utmost respect for it. I always enjoy it when an artist like Elvis Costello cancels performances in Israel. My main issue is the tendency to try and boycott Israeli artists, many of whom I think need to be heard. This came home to me about a year or so ago when some BDS types were harshly critical of Daniel Baronboim, a man I consider to be both an artistic and moral giant. Still, I respect their commitment and activity. There exists, nevertheless, a tendency at times to focus solely on non-violent resistance in Bil’in and on the BDS campaign, both of which are laudable. The problem is that such a focus has the potential to result in landing on the terrain of the political discourse of the colonizer: a discourse in which Zionism is destined to carry the day.
      The logic would tend to go something like the following. Abu Rahmah is a pacifist. Ergo he must be supported. Obama and Clinton are hypocritical in refusing to recognize his justified resistance against Zionism. It is a justified resistance because it is non-violent. Violence in all forms must be condemned. Whether it is the violence of the colonizer or the colonized, all violence is the same and morally reprehensible. Since Palestinian violence is reprehensible, the Israeli state has a legitimate security concern and while it engages in oppressive violence, at least some of this state violence is legitimate self-defense. This is a complex and contradictory situation in which all sides must be taken into account. At this point, all hope is lost and truth is completely obscured. We are stuck in the morass of the logic of colonization.
      Against this narrative, I think it is essential to hold onto a fundamental truth. I recall when I was young finding the work of Maxime Rodinson. From an early age I was opposed to Israel, and the writings of Rodinson were like water to a man lost in the desert. Rodinson was a French Marxist intellectual. He was also Jewish and unconditionally opposed to the state of Israel at a time when such a stand was almost unthinkable. He may very well have been the first public intellectual to receive the title “self-hating Jew.” But Rodinson was a man with too much moral courage to allow such name calling to bother him. It was his work that removed all blinders from my youthful eyes when he characterized the state of Israel for what it unquestionably was and still is: a European “colonial-setter state.” There is not, nor can there ever be, a moral identity between the violence of the colonizer and the colonized. Israel is an ethnic-religious regime founded on a nationalist, racist and expansionist ideology. It is one of, if not the last, of these types of states in the world. Israel has no right to national security. Indeed, it has no rights whatsoever, except the right to dissolve itself. And the sooner, the better. Then and only then, can we get on with the categorical moral imperative that should address all people of good-will: the creation of a single secular state with equal political, juridical, and (yes!) economic rights for all: be they of Western/Central/Eastern European descent, of Arab descent, or of African descent; be they Jewish, Muslim, or atheist. And any real justice can only be served with the right of return for Palestinians, especially those living in the hell-hole prisons called “refugee camps.” Until such a state exists, the struggle cannot be over. For years I have supported the two-state solution, not because I believed it was the solution, quite the opposite. I did so because Palestinians were calling for it and I supported them in their strategic projects for self-determination. But I always believed that such a project, if carried to completion, would result in a marginalized and impoverished state, dependent on and exploited by its all-to-powerful neighbor. Support for the non-violent resistance at Bil’in, and for BDS are worthy and worthwhile forms of resistance to Zionism, and should be commended. But I think it is essential that they be founded on Rodinson’s profound insight and on its consequent categorical moral imperative. If BDS and non-violence become ends in themselves, we risk getting lost in the morass of Zionist political discourse about the “rights” of the state of Israel.
      As a project, BDS can be at times especially naïve. This is in part due to an overly facile comparison of Israel with South African apartheid. I believe that this comparison, if carried too far, is an impediment to an adequate understanding of the situation. This is where the relation to Obama’s historical revisionism comes in. There exists today a very naïve belief that apartheid was brought down by an international boycott campaign and insofar as Israel is like South Africa, a boycott campaign will ultimately achieve the same result. This is a remarkably short-sighted understanding of the collapse of apartheid. The international boycott was part of the endgame to a long and complex process. By the mid-80s South Africa was far weaker and more unstable, both internally and internationally, than today’s Israel. Internally it was under attack by a decades-long political movement that included armed violence in its resistance, and furthermore was supported by the overwhelming majority of the country’s population. The South African army was also getting its butt kicked militarily by Cuban troops in military campaigns in neighboring countries. The easing of tensions in US/Soviet relations and the evolution of détente had led to the evaporation of US support for South Africa under the pretext of a Cold War ideology. The US had lost all interest in supporting the racist regime. It is within this context that an international boycott of the regime was highly effective in aiding the collapse of an already isolated and tottering regime. In contrast, Israel has one of the most powerful militarys in the world, the support of the majority of its population, and a veritable blank check from the US for military support and funding. BDS is certainly a legitimate way to express one’s opposition to Zionism, but it is rather absurd to think it will have the same impact as the international boycott of South Africa.
      The same is true for the resistance in Bil’in, a movement I confess I have more of an affinity for than BDS. But there is a danger here as well, the danger of the enemy’s discourse on violence. On this I would offer the following story. Two friends of mine in Seattle are friends with a couple who have lived in the West Bank. The origins of this friendship are the relation my friend’s wife has with an old friend from her days of political activism in Seattle. Her friend is (or was) a young Jewish woman who was (and is) also an atheist and a Trotskyist. Under the influence of her family, this young woman went off to Israel to find her “roots.” What she found, however, was a racist regime and society that horrified her. She eventually found her way to the West Bank where she met a Palestinian man who was (and is) an atheist, a Marxist, and had been a member of George Habash’s old Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. They fell in love and got married.
      This, no doubt, would make them the perfect subjects to be the central characters in a Godard movie (an inside joke for Phil Weiss). The marriage ceremony turned out to be quite a complex affair. Even thought the man had not been active in the PFLP for years and had been ignored by the IDF, on the day of the ceremony the IDF came in and arrested him before the ceremony could be completed and carted him off to prison where he was beaten and held for a couple of months. Eventually he was freed and returned home to complete the ceremony. No explanation was given for his arrest. I have tended to believe that it was Israeli horror that a Jewish woman of European descent was sleeping with a swarthy skinned Palestinian, but who knows. Eventually the area in which he lived was turned over to the control of the Palestinian Authority. The first thing he and his friends did was to celebrate by going to the prison and holding a party, sharing stories of times spent in the prison being chained to the wall and “interrogated.” Now to the point of my story. When this couple came to visit my friends in Seattle not so long ago they told them something that has stuck with them to this day. The PA was completely corrupt and had become an internal police force for Israel. It was universally despised by all Palestinians who were not connected to its corrupt patronage network. Both of these people, Marxist atheists, were strong supporters of Hamas. Indeed, as they informed my friends, every Palestinian not connected to the PA was a strong supporter of Hamas! There were even atheist left wing members of Hamas. This is because Hamas was the only organization that was actually doing anything to actively resist an occupation that both these individuals said had become unbearable in its oppression and dehumanization. Hamas may have been Islamist, but it was not corrupt, it showed extraordinary commitment and bravery in the face of oppression, and was the only organization that had anything to offer to the most destitute Palestinians. My suspicion is that if the Palestinians at Bil’in were totally open with people, they too would admit an admiration for Hamas. The question I have is how do the supporters in the US of BDS and Bil’in non-violence feel about these Palestinians? And if they have trouble answering this question, then at some point they will be destined to be let down by these people, the real Palestinians who are suffering under the yoke of a colonialism that should be long dead and buried.
      In Solidarity,
      Bill Riordan

    • I could not help but notice during Obama's arrogant, ignorant, and patronizing chastisement of Palestinians that he claimed Apartheid was overcome through pacifist non-violent practices. This is patently incorrect. South Africans waged a prolonged armed struggle against the Apartheid state, a violent struggle that played an instrumental role in bringing down that state. So popular were those who led this decades long armed struggle, that the principle organization that led the violence, the ANC, was by far the most popular group in South Africa, and acquired so much good will for their efforts that they have been the ruling party ever since. I'm just sayin.

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