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  • As Dems vote against Palestine, Cornel West warns it is the 'Vietnam War' of our time
    • One more suggestion for the Mondoweiss crowd. How about the Green party candidate Stein? She hates Israel; wouldn't she be a perfect candidate for the dyspeptic left who can't quite stomach voting for the moderate, corporate Hillary? Only problem, is that leaves us with President Donald Trump. I guess the left will just have to suck it up in November. Time for Hillary! =)

    • While the facts of the article about the consternation within the democratic party may be accurate, Israel is also making her own advances on the diplomatic front I may have missed on Mondoweiss.

      Their diplomatic initiative in Africa, where Bibi was extremely warmly met in Kenya and other African countries, establishing new overt and covert diplomatic front. In addition, the diplomatic initiative between Turkey and Israel has led to warming ties, albeit based on realistic, cold gas initiatives that benefits both countries. Finally, the ties between Israel and Egypt are also warming up quite a bit.

      My point. Actually it's two-fold.

      1. Yes, BDS may be a growing movement in the democratic party. But, there is considerable push back between elites versus activist base, but it is not a monolithic issue either.... as Trump does not represent all republicans.... neither does Cornell West represent all dems or liberals....

      2. Israel is also making their own diplomatic initiatives based on trade, defense, agriculture into Africa that is bearing fruit. See also India, Egypt and even Turkey as examples where realistic trade, military and diplomatic reasons exist for closer ties between Israel and the rest of the world(outside of the US and Europe).

  • Dempsey bucks Obama line by praising Israelis for Gaza tactics
    • What you guys are missing is Obama is no longer 'The one' of '08, but a lame-duck, Prez-not-so-cool-anymore, 2014 version. No one fears him... not the Israelis, not the Egyptians, certainly not the Iranians, nor our own military.

      What's he going to do? demote Dempsey and have his popularity crater even more?

      Three words come to mind... worse than Carter.

  • Sh*tstirring Jeffrey Goldberg dumps diplomatic sh*tstorm with 'chickensh*t' quote
    • Again, calling someone a dufas or a coward behind the cloak of secrecy is acting like a coward. Am I missing something.

      The Israeli rumor is it's Ben Rhoades. Can't Obama or his flunkies just be men and call out Bibi. He has to use some press flunkie like Goldberg or state department hostess spokeswoman with air behind her ears to insult Bibi. I'm sure Bibi's shaking. Especially after the GOP cleans his clock.

    • Annie, you clearly think negatively of Netanyahu. Goldberg is on record as a longstanding mouthpiece/toadie of the Obama administration...not just on deep background... check out Goldberg's background with Obama. He has interviewed Obama on NUMEROUS times, has always taken Obama's side in each and every case. He's an Obama sycophant.

      Even the state department ditz today denied that Obama/Kerry was a [email protected], but she DID NOT deny Goldberg's sourcing.

      Annie, don't get me wrong. I cannot stand Goldberg, but nobody has every denied his contacts in the Obama orbit.

    • Phil, not to malign the courage or integrity of President Obama(the holy one), but why do anonymous Obama administration officials hide while calling Bibi chickenshit? Just saying.

  • An exciting night at the opera: 'Klinghoffer' opening dominated by protest and heavy police presence
  • Senator Warren's progressive supporters demand accountability for her rightwing pro-Israel positioning
    • Instead of the endless, leftist, faux pouting over the "Likud" democratic pols like Warren and Obama, why aren't the progressive base trying to find an actual politician who shares your view?

      If Phil Weiss and say Ron Paul ran together on an explicitly anti-Israel ticket. Instead of whining against the ticket, why not work against the ticket?

      1. If a dem. politician is pro-Israel, why not vote against him, work for his defeat?
      2. Maybe the organizers here can organize a viable green ticket.
      3. Threaten as Annie is hinting at sitting out the election.

      Bottom line, have some pride in your viewpoints. Did anybody force you by gunpoint to vote for Obama? Is there some danger I'm missing if you vote against Warren/or Hillary?

      I approach it from a right wing perspective. I don't get the carping about this 'progressive except for Israel' meme. Maybe support the socialist party or communist party; are you married to the democrat party?

  • US and Canada strengthen economic relationship with Israel following attack on Gaza
    • It should be pointed out 2 years from now, Obama will also be out. Gone. Anyone replacing him in a frontrunner status will be remarkably pro-zionist in comparison. Sorry guys.

  • Joan Rivers's Palestinian finale
  • Hillary Clinton just lost the White House in Gaza -- same way she lost it in Iraq the last time
  • In Photos: Thousands pack Rafah streets for funeral of top Hamas commanders
    • Then there's this.,7340,L-4561996,00.html

      After thousands of Palestinians dead, scores of Israelis dead, billions of dollars of munitions used, thousands of rockets fired, and intense media interest, finally proof of life! Hamas gunmen caught on film!!! Reuters to the rescue, actually catching the rarest of entity ... armed Hamas gunmen caught on film?

      I guess now it's ok to film Hamas since Hamas wants the message disseminated.

    • Is their any sort of appeals process/legal process of appealing accusation of collaboration in the Hamas legal structure? I ask this question in all seriousness/I could not find an answer online. Reports note some of the collaborators were grabbed as they exited their Mosque and sprayed with bullets. Better than Isis I suppose.

    • That Hamas killed 18 collaborators does not mean that Hamas is correct.

      Annie, yes, Khaled M. It does not necessarily have to be Israel either. I'm not sure the Egyptians are that fond of him either, and absence does not make the heart grow fonder.

    • Is it Palestinian collaborators, Egyptian intel, or Israeli intel(or a combination of all 3) that is behind Hamas recent leadership loss in Gaza.

      I don't see IDF's intel suddenly making a quantum improvement, collaborators are possible(but that only explains one hit), but Egypt deciding to pull out all the stops to help Israel target Hamas military wing makes the most sense.

    • Yes.

      Another interesting point to be made here. Much is being made about Israel intel here(in the Israeli centered press/blogs). But it is very interesting me that two out of the three Hamas chiefs who were killed had ties to Sinai operations. I would be curious about

      a. the nature/expertise of Egyptian intel on Hamas military leadership, and, b. the cooperation between Egypt and Israel on Egyptian intel.

      I would bet Egypt's intel on Hamas military arm is better than Israel.

    • High/mid level echelon of Hamas military wing hit. I wonder if the political leadership is next?

  • Democratic Party leader echoes Netanyahu's new theme: Hamas equals ISIS
    • What I do find funny is equating Hamas with the Muslim Brotherhood, or Bin Laden, or ISIS is attacked by Hamas apologists in the west. Fine. But does Hamas itself consider itself a Muslim Brotherhood front organization who admires Bin Laden? Right ISIS and Islamic Jihad and Hamas distinct entities.

  • Knight in shining armor?
    • Sir Ellis, from a land-based campaign to aid/rebuild Gaza, the aid must come from Israel, cause it doesn't look like Egypt is going to be a source of much rebuilding/trade going into Gaza.

  • Cuomo and Zuckerman take a suckers' tour of tunnels (a few miles from massacres they can't make time for)
    • Phil and James, did you ever reach out to Jewish victims of terror living in Israel? did you ever reach out to families of the three most recent Jews "kidnapped/murdered"?

    • What kind of argument is it no civilians died?

      The tunnels took years to build, millions of dollars, probably thousands of man-hours. How do you know the ultimate targets were the Israeli military? Because some Israeli hater in NYC says it's so?

      How many Americans died from planes ramming into US symbolic landmark buildings on 9/11/01? Using the logic Phil presents, I would ask, how many Americans died from planes ramming into landmark structures on 9/10/01? ZERO. Nice logical structure.

  • We must target our politicians' 'cowardice' in the face of war crimes --Trevor Hogan's impassioned speech in Dublin
    • As a proud zionist, the defense is precisely so obscene. Just looking at hte sheer quantity of displaced, dead, raped, beheaded, ethnically cleansed... b/w Israel/Gaza and Assad versus Syria is so unbalanced. It proves my point. It is not about

      a. Israel as a nation state, or
      b. about Syria as a nation state, but
      c. about anti-semitism.

      The multiple attacks throughout Europe against non-Israeli Jewish targets also proves my point.

      Bonus question to Mondoweiss:

      Why do European protests against Israel wind up at Synagogues?
      How does kill the Jews chants in Germany address Gaza?
      What's with the constant linkage between Israel/Bibi and the swastika?

      But most of the posters and commenters here are savvy, so, look at the bright side: as long as Israel keeps existing, you can hide your views on Jews behind anti-zionism.

    • Trevor's quiet as a church mouse regarding Assad's crime in Syria.

      If it counts when 1800 arabs are killed by Jews, then whey doesn't his passion get aroused Sunnis are killing non-Sunni in Syria. Isis no problem, 170,000 dead in Syria, move on... but Israelis attacking Gaza, and all the little anti-semites in little Ireland got their mad caps on.

  • How many Israeli civilians have been attacked from the Gaza tunnels? Any?
    • John O, very good point and great argument to build a seaport/airport.

    • The tunnels going into Israel from Shejaiya are complex, hardened, took years to build. The fact that Hamas hasn't attacked Israeli civilians yet is kind of like saying terrorists have never used 747's to target the WTC on 9/10/01. True, but laughable. After all, Hamas is careful and takes deliberate aim with their rockets to distinguish between Israelis, zionists, Jews, Muslims. Right =)

  • Steven Salaita-- unremitting in criticism of Zionism and Gaza slaughter-- loses a job at University of Illinois
    • Anti semitism runs rampant sadly in academia and even the arts. But a theater group is fighting back in foggy London town.

      Artistic Director of Tricycle Theatre announces new musical to recoup lost donations after cancelling Jewish Film Festival:

  • Bob Schieffer in a 'world gone mad'
  • British gov't minister resigns over 'morally indefensible' Gaza policy, urging Palestinians to go to international criminal court
  • Israel calls Obama's tune
    • These tunnels weren't built in a day. Try more like one to two years of carefully planning, with cement, with foreign know-how, with a free flowing tunnel system to and fro Egypt and Sinai. Yes, they will rebuild, but a 2 KM long tunnel will take years. Assuming they can get help/supplies/cement/smuggling.

    • Hamas real target was Egypt. Egypt hasn't budged. Sisi has had his fill of Islamists and want's no part of Hamas/MB in the Sinai. He, Sisi, has sentenced 1000 plus Islamists to death. I cannot see him coming to Hamas rescue. Personally, I also think he hates Hamas for their support of Morsi(but that's my own hunch).

      Egypt's offer of a case fire only returns things to the status quo full ie. Egyptian blockade.

      What I hope for is for Hamas to move to Quatar, and have the international community massively invest in Gaza.

    • According to Israeli TV, Egypt has announced any Palestinian who tries to cross into Egypt will be shot.

    • To sum up my last post... Israel position may be no case fire, withdraw, quiet for quiet or a war of attrition without a case fire.

    • The growing consensus reported inside Israel today according to their press is to proceed with destroying the last three tunnels into Israel and then proceeding with a unilateral withdraw. Then it's up to Hamas to stop firing rockets(or not). No cease fire, no negotiations with Hamas. Calm for calm--or not. The growing consensus within Israel is entering into a ceasefire with Hamas is meaningless since it cannot deliver.

      I think it is a good move on Israel's part. How is Hamas going to replenish it's rocket arsenal after Egypt destroyed the Sinai--Gaza tunnel network? Will the arab league support Hamas? Will Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia help Hamas? Protestors in Europe or Boston will not replenish long range rockets Hamas needs. Nor will the UN.

      A defanged Hamas, derived of support, without their goal of a cease fire with the free flow of goods into Gaza, may not last long.

  • Hamas mimics Hezbollah tactics, and no one will have stability till blockade is lifted
    • Hoodwinked maybe, but Sinai was having terrorists attacking Egyptian soldiers... one of the factors leading to Egyptian disgust with Morsi.

      It's not easy being Egypt.

      On the one hand, death to the Jews.
      On the other, death to Hamas.
      Where's the middle ground?

    • The Egyptians actually made Secretary Kerry go through a hand-wand security check(on Egyptian TV no less)immediately before meeting General Sisi.

      This sends a loud message to me that Sisi-Egypt will not facilitate a cease fire, for they have no intention to allow crossing over the Egypt-Gaza border in any meaningful manner. The second message is [email protected] off Obama.

      I didn't realize the hatred of Sisi and the military against Obama and the US until now.

      The Turks have no leverage over Israel(or relations of any type).

      I do not see a cease fire any time soon. Not to mention Hamas and Israel don't want one.

  • The heart of the problem with Israel: The mass expulsion of the Palestinian people
    • Wasn't another synagogue firebombed the same day. Thanks for explaining how the protestors were trying to "lobby" the Jews. I wonder if Phil Weiss agrees with this distinction between anti-semitism and anti-zionism.

    • Hophmi, this is why it is so crucial for Phil's crowd to negate/confuse the anti-semitic incidents in Paris. Note the tact taken by Annie, reporting the Jewish Defense League started the Parisian synagogue riot... without answering

      1. Why are pro-Palestinian marchers outside a Paris Synagogue in the first place?
      2. Where is the outrage over Assad and Isis among the hundreds of thousands of protestors today?(Phil and Annie were either silent--or deceptive with the false flag crap).

      By negating / downplaying anti-semitism, Phil and Annie show they true agenda.

  • Understanding Hamas
  • Federal official fires gun at pro-Palestine demonstrators following scuffle in LA
    • You're both completely missing the point. Annie--JustJesseter, the issue is when and why the officer shot. He was said to have shot his gun as the bus was leaving. This is mind boggling. I didn't realize you shot someone after they were beaten/roughed up. I'm obviously no fan of the Gaza protest movements, but firing at people fighting, or after they've been assaulted? Couldn't he just have taken down the Palestinian's car and checked DMV records? Sounds like the Homeland security guy was/is off his rocker.

    • LA, yesterday Paris. The storming/firebombing of Parisian Synagogues. I guess the protestors confused them with the Israeli Embassy.

  • Gaza under attack again
  • The players may change, but the game remains the same: The use of racism to justify the massacre of innocent civilians in Gaza
    • Is it racism to listen to the actual words of Hamas spokesperson regarding Palestinians in targeted homes to stay inside, ignoring Israeli warnings? By this definition, I'm a certified racist. See the Jake Tapper interview(not linked here)for more.

  • 'Protective Edge' has nothing to do with protection
  • Terror in Gaza: 57 seconds after 'warning,' Israel destroys a house
    • Roha, you got me there. I do deserve a homeland if marital suffering counts. Sheesh.

      Interesting, the Egyptians briefly opened their Gaza border Thursday, and slammed it closed tonight, citing smuggling of rockets out of Gaza into Sinai.

  • White House says US can't stop 'tsunami' of boycott and isolation if Israel won't end 'occupations'
  • The 'so-called peace process' and Gaza 'siege' -- Mohyeldin conveys Palestinian despair on MSNBC
    • Mooser, does you knowledge of history begin in 1776? Yes, your point is well taken. Jews manage to survive in America--with no protection whatsoever from the government--existing as a tiny minority. But the experience of Jews in America is also unique, a distinct exception from the rest of history. If all of diaspora history was like that of America, there never would have been a modern-day state of Israel. America is not France, Poland or Germany. Never was, never will be. History teaches America is unique in so many ways. Things change thought. I never, ever, ever thought you would see a wave of thousands of French Jews immigrating to Israel today due to anti-semitism and a crappy economy. But it is happening.

  • Please, pray for Palestine
    • Annie, so full of warm words for the dead Palestinian child, but only conspiracy theories for the three dead Jewish boys; why is that? The mask is slipping Annie.

  • Israel announces major escalation in settlement expansion (Update)
    • The Jews are building houses? The horror. What's next... another nobel prize in science? Their utter audacity. 1500 houses, 1800 houses. Why the Jews are just as bad as Assad. I say, hang 'em up by their stiff necks. End sarcasm.

  • Israeli government tries to undo image of Pope at the wall
    • Comparing Bethlehem to the Warsaw Ghetto? inverting Israel with the Nazis? This is not anti-semitic to you as a Jew? Then according to you, outside of lynching and physician murder, what constitutes anti-semitism? I would argue the obtuseness expressed on this very comment stream is full of anti-semitism... note the poster who is questioning the veracity of the killing of the Jews just the other day in Europe? She appears to be willing to dismiss it as some sort of false flag operation, because is her warped viewpoint, it makes Bibi look good or some drivel.

      Using your own words, Elliot, your are displaying a myopia concerning anti-semitism on this very threat... the false flag charge, the polish-ethnic labeling, are just two examples of disturbing anti-semitism that so often accompanies critique of Israel.

      I post here because words do matter. Your role here might be that of an african-american in the South in the 1960--under the watchful eye of his white audience--saying where the hell is the racism? Slavery ended in 1965. The racist will then tell you to ask his colored friend how grand things are.

    • I obviously have a dissenting view. Thank god for Bibi.

      Standing up to the pope, ensuring a visit to Israeli victims of Palestinian terror, standing up to his excellency President Obama before. Why the hell not?

      The picture of this pope next to the wall, with the words equating the Warsaw Ghetto with the situation in Bethlehem, sickens me.

      1. You are going to compare the starvation, extermination of over 300,000 Polish Jews in a brief period of time to the situation in Bethlehem today?
      2. The word Ghetto... a quarter of a city in which Jews were formerly required to live--I believe Venice, at the order of Catholic rulership in Italy. Nice.
      3. The touching inversion of Nazis and Jews, as so offing is the case among anti-semites is implied in this linkage... I wonder why nobody compares the Jews to Pol Pot? No, only a Nazi analogy will due, unless the South African analogy sometimes lacks the extra vigor of true hate.

      I believe Bibi also noted to 'his holiness' that Jesus spoke Hebrew, not just aramaic, this noting that Jesus was a Jew, and Jews have a connection to the land of Israel, hitting back at the nonsense that there is no connection of the Jews to Israel.

      To give him credit, the pope listened to Bibi and tried to create balance.

      Like Phil, I also no longer believe a two-state solution is possible as I once had. But to all the haters who use the Palestinians like a battering ram against the Jews, to the Palestinians(many of Jewish descent, Islamized over generations). You people... represented at Mondoweiss and throughout the internet, do not really want Palestinian statehood. It is just a prop to be used against Israel... in the same manner that corrupt arab regimes use the Palestinian issue to defuse public anger at their own corruption until the dawn of the arab spring.

  • The Pope in Palestine
    • Phil, did the Israelis murder ghettoize 400,000 Palestinians in the Bethlehem Ghetto(or any other ghetto) in a matter of months? The only linkage between the experiences of the Jews in world war two and the Palestinians under occupation both premises are based on virulent anti- Judaism. Your entire BDS approach, indeed, is Nazi-like in origin... singling out Jews among all nations for retribution. Maybe you should read Hilberg's 'The Destruction of European Jewry" before you 'pontificate' about the unique evil of Israel.

  • New video shows Palestinian youths killed by Israeli army on Nakba Day posed no threat to soldiers
    • This entire incident encapsulates the utter nonsense of the commenters here. A UN investigation. Let's assume the worst... these boys were murdered in cold blood, without mitigating factors, by the IDF. 2 dead versus 160,000 dead Syrians and no outrage by

      Phil Weiss
      Woody et al...

      No, just murky conspiracy theories about Takfiri Jihadists. 160,000 dead humans in Syria, but THESE deaths suddenly warrant a UN investigation and the US cannot stop it. Right. Imagine that: the UN sanctioning Israel. Maybe they'll link it to racism again. Who gives a rats ass.

  • Shalom Modi: India and Israel look to deepen ties following victory of the Hindu right
    • Many commenters here are bordering on outright Hinduphobia! All this screeds against the Hindu national motif reminds one of Islamophobia at its most repugnant.

  • Israelis are in Nigeria to help search for girls -- Susan Rice
    • Josh, I'm also cynical. Where is the outpouring of Islamic states offering aid, military and economic to crush this gang of Islamists who have kidnapped these girls? Phil, where is YOUR outrage over the kidnapping?

      Your only emotion towards the kidnapping of 300 girls, forcing them to accept Islam, threatening to sell them into forced marriages... your only emotion is the tangential relationship, news snippet relating to Israel. If Israel had not offered aid, then this travesty would never grace your hallowed pages. Nice.

  • Obama outmaneuvers Netanyahu, at last
    • If Obama is so mean and scary to give the middle finger to Israel as some are purporting, then why does he use Martin Indyck in a soundproof room with a metaphorical cover over his head. Is this supposed to scar Bibi?

      Take a look back when you had a read SOB at state and a President people actually respected. Remember Baker at state giving the famous phone number in public when the Israelis were ready to negotiate? and the first George Bush.

      Do the Israelis respect Kerry and his scared, little pimp Indyck on deep, deep, deep background, giving his whining drivel? Do the Palestinians? Does the arab world? Does Putin? Hillary Clinton will be a distinct improvement over what the Obama administration has turned into. The "peace process" is dying in any event, but the clown-act of Kerry et al, only hastened its demise.

  • Who will be the last neoconservative?
    • The last neoconservative found standing will be carefully catalogued.

      His religion will be duly noted if it is of the Mosaic derivation.
      His fealty to Israel will be noted.
      His loyalty to the United States will be made suspect.
      His shifting, pernicious nature will be explored.

      Is that about right?

  • Fiddler on the Nakba
    • Another depressing analogy: "Where is the Palestinian Isaac B. Singer?" as some in my family might say? Where are the great Palestinian writers today? The better question is where are the Palestinian readers, Jewish readers, or just readers. They're ALL dumbed down by the idiocy of the internet and baseness of our culture. Yes, there is an IB Singer out there, but nobody will every read him because nobody reads books outside of 50 shades of dreck.

    • Rudy, you and Zach miss a much bigger point. Gershwin made great music but was paid to make his masterpieces, or made 'low brow' music to finance 'high brow' masterpieces, or so he thought. The public loved it. No offense to any budding Palestinian artist, thinker, but how can you recreate a cultural richness of America in the 20's or 30's? Gershwin, Kern, Berlin, the Harlem writers, artists, jazz... now we have the internet. Even Hollywood can only rely on superhero crap. We live in a barren landscape. The outlets for a budding Palestinian artist would be M. Assaf with a talent contest, or the internet. It's not the artists fault or even a gatekeeper, but the shlock of our own culture. If a Palestinian wrote a brilliant play in English? would anybody but an activist watch it? The audience would rather watch some idiotic video of a dog speaking 'I love you.' Maybe the arab world's musical sentiments are more refined than our rap music crap; I hope so.

    • Nabil Anani is fantastic, superb. Deeply moving. There is a weird, fierce, beauty is Nabil's art. Like Chagall in a way.

    • Woody, how about the recent series of Palestinian films which were nominated for the Oscars... not big production events... but small, shoe-string ventures? These films were given the honor of an Oscar nomination which is about as good as one can get in the arena of film... now you can watch them on Netflix or AMZN as we speak. How did these films, yes one was a work of art, how did they get a pass by Hollywood, Woody?

  • Very far from paradise: Palestinians from Fureidis protest 'price tag' attack
    • Maybe the Palestinians will so tire of their horrific abuse, they might move to Syria? Then again, Kay, even if one accepts your truth, line by line, it still makes the Jews into a fairy god mother contrasted to B. Assad, head of "the resistance"

  • Defending Apartheid – From 1968 to the present
    • CloakAndDagger, as a Silicon Valley guy, who do you feel about today's Intel 6 billion dollar upgraded factory/investment in Israel? The joke that's going around my zionist circle is BDS will claim victory by extolling: it wasn't 6.5 billion bc of BDS. LOL.

  • 'There's a lot of anti-Semitism out there' -- Johansson reviews her role as 'new face of apartheid'
    • Annie, so you are no longer a fan? One of the problems here is the demonization of people for their beliefs. Maybe she's a decent person, a good actor, maybe a good friend, daughter. Maybe not. Maybe she's a superficial dimwit. But here stance on Israel does not alter or change her character. A person could be Jewish, they could be a neoconservative, they may love Israel, but this should not alter their humanity(or lack of it).

      Annie, shorter version... I detest what the Roger Waters says on Israel, BDS, and Palestine, but does that detract from the quality of album The Wall? Pink Floyd is still the greatest rock group of all time even if I don't agree with the ideology of its founder.

    • unverified, let's accept your premise, did levels of anti-semitic motifs in Europe increase during and after cast lead? You might be surprised that poling showed about the same belief in anti-Jewish stereotypes during and after cast lead.

      Second point, as a thoughtless zionist, you mention that modern anti-semitism is the result of illegal Israeli occupied territorial activities. Point well taken. So how do you explain anti-semitism before 1967? 1937? Dude, you should search for new, more original tropes about the Jews. Phil Weiss is a wonderful teacher.

  • Bill de Blasio gives Avigdor Lieberman the Big Apple
  • 'NYT' stamps Jimmy Carter 'radioactive' and not 'a force for good'
    • Yes, I'm sure Sadat's roundup of the coptic pope really stirred up the Islamist cell's anger. The average Egyptian would appear to have warm and fuzzy feelings for the Copts. I stand chastised. Not.

    • Shingo, I suggest you read Lawrence Wright account The Looming Towers. You write:

      "Do you realize that Bin Laden ceased to recognize him(Sayyid Qutb) as a leader and turned to Zawahiri?"

      The intellectual father of Bin Laden died in the mid '60's. Bin Laden never met him, let alone 'ceased to recognized him or turned to Zawahiri' as you put it. Qutb was an intellectual hero to both Zawahiri and Bin Laden. I also feel the rest of your well written post reflects the basic thought process of the crowd here.

    • James North writes Sadat was not assassinated by the Muslim Brotherhood -- but by a small offshoot of the organization.... What? Do you realize that you can be a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and also be a terrorist? or you could be a member of the Muslim Brotherhood and work in the political sphere. Do you know a thing about the MB? Do you realize the DIRECT spiritual godfather of Bin Laden and his ENTIRE group and of Salifism was a brilliant, Egyptian intellectual named Sayyid Qutb. Do you know he was a proud member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

      Yes. Sadat was murdered because he let the Islamists out of jail. Mubarak rectified this mistake. Now Sisi is cracking down on the Islamists... both the hardcore Salafis and also the kinder, gentler Morsi. The truth does matter.

      BTW... not only is there hardly a peep in the arrest at the murder and judicial expunging of the Islamists from this world, but there is little protest or furor within Egypt for that matter. Half the population hates them. I don't thin the west gave a fuck about the murder of a million Rwandans, 200,000 Syrians, or 6 million Jews either. But Sheldon Adelson, Apartheid in Israel, that's news.

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