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  • Senator Cantwell, are you listening?
    • The twin cancers of the middle east were for the Britain's own strategic purposes foisted on the region - ie European zionists on Palestine where they knew the European Jewish zionists had no rights to Palestine but for their own purposes encouraged them to think they had - and re-established wahhabism after it had been rejected.
      "After the Arab revolt , led by Britain, Sherif Hussein proclaimed himself king of all the Arab countries. But the British had other plans for him which didn’t include him controlling much territory in the Hijaz. Confrontation over the future of arabia ensued between Hussein and another British protégé, Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud. Ibn Saud, a rising power in central Arabia had captured the Nejd region with its capital at Riyadh. Britain had already provided arms and money to Ibn Saud during the First World war. They signed a treaty with him in 1915 and recognised him as the ruler of the Nejd province under British protection. By the end of the war, he was receiving a British subsidy of £5k a month, much less than the £12k doled out to Hussein. Some British officilas were pinning their strategic hopes on Ibn Saud during the war. “At the present moment agitation is intense in all Mohammedan countries…We should therefore create a state more convenient for ourselves, to whom the attention of Islam should be turned. We have an opportunity in Arabia.” (From amemorandum from one British soldier , on the ‘Mohammedan Question’ in 1917). In 1919 London used aircraft in the Hijaz in support of Hussein’s confrontation with Ibn Saud. But after accepting a temporary ceasefire in 1920, Ibn Saud’s 150000 Bedouin militias advanced relentlessly. By the mid-1920s he had gained control of Arabia, including the Hijaz and the Holy places, defeating Hussein for supremacy. Ibn Saud established ‘Saudi’ Arabia in an orgy of murder, described as ‘a lecher and a bloodthirsty autocrat’ by an author, Said Aburish. The conquest of Arabia cost the lives of around 400000 people, over a million people fled to neighbouring countries. Numerous rebellions against the House of Saud subsequently took place killing mostly innocent men, women and children. By the mid-1920’s most of Arabia had been subdued, 40000 people had been executed and some 350000 had limbs amputated. The British recognised Saud’s control and by 1922 his subsidy was raised to 100K a year by Winston Churchill. The territory was divided into districts under the control of Saud’s relatives, a situation which largely prevails today. "

  • Editors of 'Assuming Boycott' anthology speak out against anti-Semitism controversy at Queens Museum
    • Leaving a place doesn’t make someone a refugee. It’s forbidding him or her from returning that does it. The Palestinian problem is a human rights problem disguised as a diplomatic problem; this was Israel’s greatest success, making it look like a geopolitical issue.

      Their descendants will be refugees until such time they can return to their homes and lands ( which you fail to mention was a condition 'israel' agreed upon to get into the UN on and has never adhered to).

      Ironic the European zionists claimed a dubious 2000 year exile and you harp on about descendants of actual refugees from 1947/8 onwards.

  • Israel charges UNESCO with 'Fake history'
    • Its a wonder why its even still in the organisation never mind all its vintage lying whines . Many have argued it automatically disqualifies itself by failing to fulfil membership requirements in the first place. Furthermore, it continues to show contempt for numerous UN resolutions, despite frequent reminders.

  • On Nakba Day I want the right to be angry
  • Israel's proof that Marwan Barghouti is a terrorist – a cookie
    • A child throwing a stone is deemed a terrorist from propagandists of an occupier/oppressor which was born out of terrorism and sustained by it.

  • 'Ban the Boycott' – An all too familiar refrain
  • 'Why do I not cry out for the right of return?' -- an exchange between Uri Avnery and Salman Abu Sitta
  • Finders Keepers in the Holy Land: So who was there first?
    • Firstly, that is not something a Palestinian claims. Its the impostor propagandists who make the claim they were there first and denies the Palestinian history. Its the impostors who did not want to integrate, merely dispossess.

      Secondly, 5000 years ago a succession of population groups migrated north from the Arabian peninsula into areas of the Middle east. These people are labelled together as Semites because their languages were all related & derived from a common tongue. These groups were organized and founded civilizations across the region. The group that populated the area of Palestine became known as the Canaanites (Palestinian parent tree). Another group of Semites arrived 2000 years after the Canaanites where they became known as the Hebrews (from the word 'habiru' meaning 'nomad').

      Finally, Lord Shaftesbury was driven by Christian messianic prophecy and believed that ‘Jewish Restorationists’ would hasten the second coming of Jesus. In 1838 he used the term ‘a nation without people for people without a nation’ He was instrumental in setting up the British Consulate in Jerusalem and getting another Restorationist, James Finn, appointed as the Consul. His family links with Palmerston enabled him to influence government policy and this was half a century before Herzl’s Zionism started.

  • British uproar at Trump policies doesn’t extend to Netanyahu, yet
    • "Theresa May’s appeasement of two unpopular leaders could just help build British citizens’ solidarity with Palestine."

      I hope its the straw that breaks the camels back so to speak

  • Jewish groups slamming Trump on refugees are hardhearted when it comes to Palestinian refugees
    • This is why I got involved in Palestinian activism. This travesty of justice of denying the world's largest/longest suffering refugee population their right to return home.

      It is soul destroying that so many people who openly opposed the apartheid system in US and South Africa are willing to give a pass to Israel.

  • Free 'The Hares Boys' campaign produces free e-book on tragic first anniversary of sentencing
    • I believe the families were told the sentences could be reduced for what the occupation authorities termed 'fines' - not only do children get imprisoned in military trial courts on trumped up charges they are subject having to pay fines or get longer sentences. Its incredibly surreal what Palestinians are going through and it need not be that way if the western countries put their foot down and said enough is enough.

  • International law, the United Nations and Palestine
    • "The entire enterprise of a Jewish state in Palestine is built upon an express rejection of international law. The only legitimate grounds for political sovereignty of an indigenous people are the laws of ius soli or ius sanguine as recognized in international law, which translates into a right of sovereignty based upon habitation in a particular territory or being a descendent of someone in a particular territory. The third option granting a right to sovereignty would be the discovery of a terra nullius that is an uninhabited territory. Palestine was never a terra nullius, and its inhabitants were entitled to a sovereign state in Palestine as part of Greater Syria, if they so chose, according to the ius soli following the demise of the Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I in 1917 and 1918. If their children were out of the country at the time of its establishment at a particular time, then they would be granted citizenship on the grounds of the ius sanguine if they had not been born in Palestine or Greater Syria.

      European Jewry did not fulfill either of these qualifications in 1917, when the Balfour Declaration, a document prepared by international Jewish leadership, and addressed by Lord Arthur Balfour, the United Kingdom’s Foreign secretary at the time, to Lord Walter Rothschild, a scion of the leading Jewish banking family in the world, resident in England, was written supporting a Jewish homeland [sic] in Palestine.

      The carving up of historical Palestine to excise the bulk of its territory for an imported unequivocally foreign population at the expense of the indigenous society was recognized not to be a politically legitimate action. Its destructive consequences should have been obvious a priori, and history has proved such expectation accurate. Such an excision has harmed the indigenous population in every and all aspects of its life: political, economic, social, educational, cultural, religious, historical and geographical. The destruction of Palestine, the expulsion of the overwhelming majority of its population and the deliberate and continuing genocidal attacks on the remaining population living under Jewish conquest, only highlights the illegitimacy of the Jewish presence and its continuing aggression against the Palestinians.

      Lynda Burstein Brayer, a graduate of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem Faculty of Law, is a radical political and legal commentator who practiced human rights law in Palestine/Israel representing Palestinians in their struggles against house demolitions, land theft, and family destruction and in their efforts to obtain travel permits for health, study and family reasons. She lives in Haifa and can be reached at [email protected]"

  • It turns out Jews are as stupid as everyone else
  • Terrorism: How the Israeli state was won
    • Born out of terrorism, sustained by terrorism.

      I have the book and it has amazing facts. Still he got trolled in the amazon review section by hasbara. Please give him some good reviews on there.

  • Historical evidence does not support Zionist claims re the Western Wall
    • "The writing of Jewish history is a peculiar feature of Jewish modernity. Jewish historiography dates from the 1820s at the earliest and does not find institutionalized expression until the 1920s. Cecil Roth, the first professionally trained and employed Jewish historian in Britain, was appointed to a readership in Post-Biblical Hebrew studies at Oxford only in 1939. Since then, the study of Jewish history has burgeoned for curious reasons. Yosef Yerushalmi remarks “The modern effort to reconstruct the Jewish past begins at a time that witnesses a sharp break in the continuity of Jewish group memory. In this sense, if for no other, history becomes what it had never before – the faith of the fallen Jews.”" -
      "Social Memory, History, and British Jewish Identity" by David Cesarani

  • Abbas and Levy issue calls to end Nakba denial
    • I do all I can to spread the word about the Palestinian plight. I cannot say the same about many Palestinians which is a crying shame. When I challenged a facebook friend who always asks me to like his pics as to why he had never - in all the years I had known him - liked just one of my posts he blatantly said because I do activism. I said that is what you as a Palestinian should be doing which for a brief moment hit a wall of silence until the subject hastily changed.

  • Why I single out Israel
  • Olympian at the checkpoint: why a Palestinian swimmer couldn't train in Jerusalem
    • I don't see Americans living under occupation or having to apply for permits to allow them to swim in a pool closest to their home or any that are refugees awaiting their right of return home - or are you going to make an excuse for that too?

    • No one seems to be bothered that she even needed to apply for a permit in the first instance?

  • My family's Nakba story
    • The act of denial by zionists was already described in painful accuracy in 1949:
      “ To be knowingly led astray and join great general mass of liars – that mass compounded of crass ignorance, utilitarian indifference, and shameless self-interest – and to exchange a single great truth for a cynical shrug of a hardened sinner.” –S.Yizhar, novelist, in his book “Khirbet Khizeh” (1949). Excerpt from Professor Oren Yiftachel, Geography Department, Ben-Gurion University. in his Forward to Noga Kadman's "Erased from Space and Consciousness.”

  • 'To defend western freedom,' U.S. must preserve Egyptian tyranny
    • Not just Egypt but Jordan and even Palestinian officials too are bought to buy co-operation with israel.

      Egypt & Jordan receive large sums of money (per capita about 1/20th of what Israel receives - that figure is about to get even worse) to buy their cooperation with Israel; Palestinians receive about 1/23rd of that to Israel, to repair infrastructure that Israeli forces have destroyed, to fund humanitarian projects required due to the destruction wrought by Israel’s military, & to convince Palestinian officials to take actions beneficial to Israel. These sums should also be included in expenditures on behalf of Israel.

  • Ozick hagiography in NYT does her the service of leaving out her views of Palestinians
    • Looks like the indoctrination worked well on her. I am sorry to say but people who cannot ask questions about what they were told when younger they honestly cannot be very bright.

  • Front-page article in 'NYT' exposes the lie that wall is a security barrier
    • In my opinion its just an apartheid era piece showing how great 'israel' is for the Palestinians How the 'primitive' natives rely on their white oppressors to survive

  • 'I am Palestinian and I am human' -- and Leanne Mohamad, 15, is disqualified from UK speaking competition
  • 'NYT' blames Hamas for civilian deaths in front-page article that sounds like Hillary Clinton
    • She cannot be that naive about the history. Its obvious why she is keeping her job at the nyt. Lying for filthy lucre.

  • Advice to British leftwingers on kicking racism out of their anti-Israel rhetoric
    • From the very beginning prominent members of the British Labour party fully endorsed this imperialist-colonial project in Palestine.

      The 1947-48 ethnic cleansing of Palestine was carried out under British Labour Party’s watch. Ken Livingstone’s hero, the late Labour politician, Tony Benn sold nuclear material to the Zionist regime when he was a government minister in the 1960s.

      The Haavara agreement lasted from 1933 until the start of the second world war, but the British Labour endorsement of Zionist colonialism began before the 1920’s and has continued to this day. So why is Ken Livingstone and his ilk keen to drag out Zionist collusion with elements in the Nazi regime yet never broach the subject of the British Labour party’s actual facilitation of the Zionist colonial project in the same period?

      It wasn’t the Nazis who issued the Balfour Declaration – it was Great Britain. Nazis didn’t have 20,000 soldiers in Palestine in the 1930s, the British did. It wasn’t Nazi Stormtroopers that proudly walked round with smashed Palestinian brains in their tobacco tins, it was Tommy. It wasn’t the Nazis that denied and crushed the Palestinian request for representative democracy in the 1930s, it was Great Britain. When Palestine was ethnically cleansed it happened under British Labour party watch, not Nazis. These are facts Livingstone and his wing of the British Labour Party could do well to note if they are to avoid accusations of anti-Semitism because let’s face it, the only truth Zionists have (or most likely, appropriated) is that some in the anti-Zionist movement are nothing but anti-Semites. A truth Ken Livingstone has provided credence to over the last week.

  • When 'Broad City' Went On Birthright, and taught us all a lesson about American Jews and Israel
    • 'Birthright' is defined as a 'natural or moral right.' I don't see anything natural or moral in the heist of Palestine

  • Another interview on Israeli TV
  • Finding 1 'Arab' in Israeli basketball, NY Times espouses Zionist racial theory
  • Israelis don't exist
  • 2017 is a crucial year for the Palestine Question
    • MASS OF TRICKS: The point needs no pressing. The very fact the Balfour Declaration [from Nov 1917] was not proclaimed in Palestine until 1920 is sufficient proof of its character.

      Into the Maze – Four Plain questions (examining the Balfour Declaration point by point):
      Mass tricks of Balfour Declaration
      1. What exactly is a “National Home”? Nobody knows. The expression was used because it was ambiguous. To Syrians it is explained as a home. Fifteen months after the British Government had declared that it viewed this ambiguity with favour, Mr Lansing, the American Foreign Secretary, was obliged to ask at the Paris Peace Conference in Paris what “National Home” meant. Dr Weizmann replied that it meant there should be established such conditions ultimately in Palestine that “Palestine shall be just as Jewish as America is American and England is English. “ Mr (as he was then) Balfour was very pleased with this reply. It is difficult to see why, since Dr Weizmann had removed with his frankness a good deal of ambiguity.
      2. “Nothing shall be done,” says the vigilant Declaration, “which may prejudice the civil & religious rights of non-existing Jewish communities in Palestine.” No phrase could sound better but what exactly are “civil rights”? Again nobody knows. That is why the Declaration is anxious to guarantee them. Observe that the phrase “political rights” is not used. Political rights would have been something definite. The political rights of a people are its ownership of its country. The right to have, as Syrian-Arabs demand, “a National Government created, which shall be responsible to a Parliament elected by the people of Palestine - Muslims, Christians, and Jews.” A Subterfuge: When the Zionists drew up their programme of October 1916, the first portion of that program reads thus: “The Jewish population of Palestine shall enjoy full civic and POLITICAL rights…” no mistake here and at the end of the Balfour declaration itself is it civil rights guaranteed to the Jews? Read and see: “the rights and POLITICAL status enjoyed by the Jews.” No mistake again.
      3. The third point is less important but worth noting. The people of Palestine are referred to as the “Non-Jewish communities in Palestine.” There are about 80000 Jews & 670000 non-Jews in Palestine [1922]. The word would give anybody the impression that the “non-Jewish communities” were some specialised sort of bodies & not the mass of the population.
      4. Nothing, according to the declaration, is to prejudice the “political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.” What does this mean? It means that Jews, besides being put on the road to establishing a Jewish state in Palestine, are also guaranteed against not belonging to it if they don’t wish. Political Zionism may look forward, therefore, to having their cake and eating it.
      The truth peeps out very clearly from this part of the Declaration. If there existed no intention in the minds of its framers of founding a Jewish state, why were they moving to protect their co-religionists from the necessity of belonging to it? If the National Home was only to be a home, the political status of Jews elsewhere could no more be altered by it than is the status of Englishman because thousands of them have homes in France & Italy. But if a state was erected in Palestine? Ah then!
      Excerpt from: Palestine Deception
      [Balfour Declaration] FORMULA MAKING:
      There was a meeting at the house of one of their number [British Zionist] in Feb 1917, Sir Mark Sykes was there “in his private capacity.” He was told there MUST be no internationalisation of Palestine because the Zionists desired a British protectorate with full rights to the Jews to develop as a nation. M. Nahum Sokoloff, the chief representative in Britain of the International Zionist Executive, was chosen, as the result of the meeting, to continue negotiations with Sir Mark Sykes & M. Picot, who acted for the French Government. The Zionist report says with satisfaction: “Thus opened the chapter of negotiations which ended 9 months later with the Balfour Declaration.” Still fearful of internationalisation, which would have made the Zionist state impossible, Mssrs Weizmann & Sokoloff spent some months vainly trying to get the Sykes-Picot Agreement cancelled. Though they failed in this, yet somehow internationalisation did drop out of sight.
      The goal was getting visible. A number of prominent Zionists, Ahad Ha-am, the writer, Mssrs Joseph Cowen, Akiva Yaakov Ettinger, Albert Hyamson, Simon Marks, Harry Sacher, Israel Moses Sieff, Leon Simon, Samuel Tolkowsky, Aaron Aaronsohn, Vladimir (Ze’ev) Jabotinsky, Samuel Landman, & others from continental countries, as they visited England from time to time, were gathered in to form a Political Committee. Their names are of great interest, since it was they, together with well-known Zionist leaders, who began work on the “Balfour Declaration.” Many versions of the suggested formula were drafted,” says the Zionist report, “by various members of the Political Committee.” Drafts went back and forth to the Foreign Office. “Some were detailed and elaborate,” but the Government did not want to commit itself to more than a general statement of principle. Finally, a “concise and general formula was agreed upon.” This was made known to and approved by President Woodrow Wilson, Sir Mark Sykes, and Baron Edmond de Rothschild. All seemed finished. On July 18 Lord Rothschild forwarded the Balfour Declaration to Mr Balfour [to sign].
      Source: “The Palestine Deception, 1915–1923: The McMahon-Hussein Correspondence, the Balfour Declaration, and the Jewish National Home” By: J. M. N. Jeffries
      Edited by William M. Mathew

  • What's the big difference between Israel's 1967 occupation and its 1948 occupation?
  • Why Israel has silenced the 1948 story of Nazareth’s survival
    • Some excerpts from the Al Jazeera "Nakba" series:

      "There were 10000 people in Nazareth in 1948 soon that became 22000 with refugees from Ilut, al-Mujaydil & Ma’lul moved to Nazareth. Predominately Christian villages around Nazareth were not spared incl the village of Irqith in Northern Palestine which was stormed by zionist terrorists in Oct 1948. More than 800000 Palestinians were evicted in 1948. Only 130000 remained in Galilee, Negev and in some towns. In addition 30000 were added with the takeover of the so called triangle in early 1949. The total number of Palestinians living in “Israel” reached 160000. Today that number is 1.5 million. They remained on that land and that usurping state imposed its citizenship on them without their consent just like the way they took that land. That is the reality they have to deal & live with."

      "Israel UN membership: When “Israel” presented its credentials to become a member of the world body (UN) they had to give guarantees for the rights of Palestinians who remained within the state. Only then did Israeli Govt start talking about citizenship. There is another important issue most Palestinians who remained in their homeland were concentrated in Galilee & the Triangle awa in areas that according to the partition res of 1947 were supposed to belong to a Palestinian state. Israel wanted to extend its authority over these areas despite international opposition. It was unacceptable to USA, Russia & Arab countries. To ensure its sovereignty over those areas Israel gave citizenship to its inhabitants."

      "After the Nakba 150,000 Palestinians , both Muslims and Christians, remained inside “Israel”. Hillel Cohen, Israeli historian: “There was a decision regarding Nazareth City because of its holiness to Christians & links some people had with Vatican. Ben-Gurion himself took a decision when forces went into Nazareth that they should not hurt its people. When Nazareth was occupied it hosted thousands of refugees from neighboring villages like Saffuriyya, Al-Mujaydil, Ma’lul. They stayed there to be safe. But according to Israeli law they were not allowed back to their villages & so they became internal refugees inside “Israel”.” Saffuriya is less than 2km away from Nazareth but they are forbidden to return there.
      1948, In Galilee “Israeli” authorities did allow some Christian and Druze villages to remain in an attempt to foment sectarian feuds between the Palestinians. When they proposed to the Christian refugees from Al Bassa, there was absolute refusal and they took a firm position : “Either we and our Muslim neighbors return together to Al Bassa or we will not return at all”."

      "In 1949 “Israel” decided to expel the inhabitants of eastern district of Nazareth but the people of the district collectively confronted the “authorities” who were threatened but were not shaken and stood their ground trying to put men on trucks to throw them outside the border but they were blocked by the rest of the inhabitants who lay in the roads."

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  • How Zionism helped create the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
    • "The mandate did not really exist & the British presence in Palestine was based on an elaborate system of deception & political fraud, for which the unfortunate British public had to pay the bills for. The United States was importuned to accept the mandate for Armenia. It refused to do so as the American people would not take the risk of constant complications & heavy expenditure in Asia. The British Empire had waxed great by “governing men as they wish to be governed”, & was not doing that in Palestine or Mesopotamia. In Palestine it was trying to foist on the Arabs the Zionist regime. In Mesopotamia and Kurdistan it was forcing the alien regime of King Faisal."
      Excerpt from: "The Palestine Deception 1915-1923: The McMahon-Hussein Correspondence, the Balfour Declaration, and the Jewish National Home" by J.M.N. Jeffries. Edited with an introduction by William M. Mathew

  • Palestinian source for feel-good 'NYT' story on Haifa says newspaper censored his political views
  • Permanently ghettoizing the Palestinian people is Yitzhak Rabin's true legacy
  • Despite global disgust, Netanyahu doubles down on claim that Hitler got idea of Final Solution from a Palestinian
    • Yes and from that same book on Page 74 Eichmann claimed at his Nuremburg trial he traveled to Palestine to meet the mufti but in actual fact he travelled to meet with Feivel Polkes of Hagannah.

  • Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic . . . It's anti-racist
  • Photo essay: Continually displaced, Palestinian refugees spend Nakba day in Iraqi IDP camp
    • From "Against Our Better Judgment" by Alison Weir:
      "the total direct relief offered…by the Israeli government to date consists of 500 cases of oranges "(ironic when you consider they were stolen from Palestinians anyway).

  • Bedouin village razed 83 times must pay $500,000 for demolitions, Israel says
  • As pressure rises on Robbie Williams and UNICEF over Israel gig, conflict of interest emerges between singer and NGO
  • When occupation becomes apartheid
    • Dr. Hendrik Verwoerd, the South African PM in 1961 and architect of apartheid itself, said this at the time:

      “The Jews took Israel from the Arabs after the Arabs had lived there for a thousand years. Israel like South Africa, is an apartheid state”
      (Rand Daily Mail, 23 November 1961).

      Its always been an apartheid entity. Not only since 1967

  • About Mondoweiss
    • I tried to explain and made a complete hash of it. Copy and paste the blockword cite from below, add your text, then to close it off just add a slash into the blockword quote at the end.

  • Zombie Hasbara: 'World War Z' and Hollywood’s Zionist embrace
  • Diaspora Jews must speak out against the Israeli Law of Return
  • Federal anti-discrimination law being used to shut down criticism of occupation
    • susan1 said the usual denial of the right of free speech for those that are pro- Israel

      If you read that from a very easy to understand explanation from Mark Ratner then you are turning the truth on it's head or upside down which ironically which is also a point Mark Ratner makes in the video.

      Palestinians, real semites, are not even playing the semite card and never have. They are not twisting laws or statutes for their cause.

      Irrationality is a way of life amongst the zionist cult.

  • Obama allowed Zionists to feel cool again
  • Hat's off to Anthony Lewis, who in '99 understood that Israel wanted a Palestinian Bantustan
    • Mr. Lewis understood that carving any Palestinian state out of historic Palestine (25% of the original Palestine, 75% being Jordan) is difficult

      Any chance you could supply a source for that "fact"? It's occupier and usurper "facts" which are simply nothing of the sort.

  • Palestinians prepare to observe Passover: Israel puts West Bank under general closure for Jewish holiday
    • "As Jews around the world commemorate freedom from slavery, 5 million Palestinians held by Israel under closure due to the passover holiday." -- Miko Peled.

  • Day One of Obama in Israel/Palestine -- 'It's good to be back in the land of Israel,' Obama says in Hebrew
  • Zionists thrill that Obama will recognize ancient Jewish connection to 'homeland' (undoing his Cairo error)
    • Thanks Hostage. I swear they are sent to annoy.

    • "same people" is debatable because there is no literature to prove the Romans , who were not in the habit of ethnic cleansing, cleansed anyone out. But the rest of your comment is a good one.

    • @ Mondonut: The General Assembly affirmed the NATIVE PALESTINIAN right of return 135 or more times. They’re binding and won’t change.

    • Prof Shlomo Sand - HOLY LAND OR HOMELAND:
      In the Hebrew Bible the geographic area roughly corresponding to the land of Palestine (between the River Jordan & the Mediterranean Sea) is mostly called the “land of Canaan.” The area “never served as a homeland for the ‘children of Israel,’ & for this reason, among others, they never refer to it as ‘the Land of Israel.’” Most Israelis, Prof Sand argues, are not aware that the term is not found in Hebrew Bible “in its inclusive meaning” of a wide geographic area.

      Shlomo Sand explains it was a “holy land” rather than a “homeland”. Most Jews did not seek to live there. Philo of Alexandria, a 1st Ce Jewish philosopher, lived in Egypt — right next to Palestine. He could have moved to Jerusalem, since both regions were under Roman rule — but instead, like most people, he chose to live & die in his original homeland . Eretz Israel was traditionally considered by mainstream Judaism to be so holy the devout were positively forbidden to move there. Even pilgrimage was a rare, & later phenomenon. Between the years 134 and 1099, “we know of no attempts by the followers of rabbinical Judaism to make pilgrimages to the holy city” of Jerusalem.

    • Mondonut: it's international law and it's binding. It's not negotiable.

  • Vivian Gornick stashed book critical of Israel lest she 'commit literary suicide'
  • Pamela Olson starts book tour of Palestine memoir in CA
  • On the tenth anniversary of Rachel Corrie's death her parents urge supporters to take action, change US policy in Israel/Palestine
  • Row breaks out in chambers as Aussie Parliamentarians criticizes 'study tour' of Israel
  • Mahmoud Al-Teety's killing puts focus on Israel's use of live ammunition to stoke violent resistance
    • Mahmoud Al-Titi was killed with an internationally prohibited lead dumdum round that fragments inside the body. Your US tax dollars at work paid by the United States of America.

  • Family reports Samer Issawi on 'verge of death' after refusing liquids and vitamins 236 days into hunger strike
    • Another long term hunger striker (I think he has been on hunger strike longer than Samer) Ayman Sharawna's nephew, Ismael, was arrested yesterday 15/03/2013.

  • Why Fran Korotzer stopped saying 'ethnic cleansing' and started saying 'genocide'
  • Un-erasing the Nakba: Palestinian identity in Israel since the first Intifada
    • Israel studies professor: 1948 really was ethnic cleansing, not genocide

      By Jonathan Kalmus, March 14, 2013

      One of the UK’s leading academics says supporters of Israel need to accept historical facts that Israel committed “ethnic cleansing” in 1948 — and be clear that there is no contradiction between this and their support of Israel.

      Oxford’s first professor of Israel studies, Derek Penslar, made the comments to the JC following a well-attended lecture at Manchester University’s Centre for Jewish Studies. The chair was made possible in 2011 through a £3 million endowment from the Stanley and Zea Lewis Foundation.

      Professor Penslar said pro-Israelis needed to catch up with the past 30 years of academic scholarship that has accepted the “vast bulk of findings” by Zionist revisionist historians such as Benny Morris and Ilan Pappe about Israel’s actions in 1948.

      He said: “What happened to the Palestinians, the Naqba, was not a genocide. It was horrible, but it was not a genocide. Genocide means that you wipe out a people. It wasn’t a genocide. It was ethnic cleansing.”

      In his lecture, Professor Penslar made clear that there was no evidence to accept the conclusions of some who claimed that early Zionist leaders had a policy or programme of forced expulsions of Palestinians.

      But, the professor said afterwards, people like him “could not lie about ethnic cleansing because of some concern that some extremist is going to try to use my words, to back up a point of view that he or she holds anyway.

      “So people are refusing to believe [what happened], not because it’s not true, but even if it is true they do not want to distribute it. What I’m saying is that scholars have an obligation to tell the truth”.

    • Driven into the sea....Diehard South African apartheid supporters claimed the same thing. The ANC also had an utterly charming slogan "One Settler, One Bullet". All white South Africans were considered "settlers" even though their earliest presence there went back to mid 17th century. Diehards never thought that their privileged racist supremacist surreal world would fall apart. Bit like RJL above.

  • Israel should start studying South Africa, so inevitable transformation is a peaceful one
    • Thanks American I did not see that. Great info.

    • Senator Giuliano Amato - who was an Italian presidential candidate - said on his weekly TV program on Italian state TV back in January 2013 his prediction on how Palestine would and should evolve in the future started off by offering a comparison by what happened in South Africa - i.e. eventually that conflict in South Africa came to an end when the white ruling class realized it was a mere minority and could no longer be sustained when they would be fighting an endless war against the black majority and there was no other solution but to have a shared coexistence & political governance. “Israel would soon have to accept this very same solution. Israel has made it impossible to have a 2 state solution as illegal settlers have occupied and taken over a vast part of the land assigned to the Palestinian people for a future separate state. As Jews are a minority they would have to accept the solution in which the Palestinian population would clearly represent the majority with all the political consequence this implies. What I hope is for a Palestinian leader a charismatic figure such as Nelson Mandela able to take power the same way Nelson Mandela did”, he said.

    • @gildag: "They did not threaten to wipe the whites out": 'One settler, one bullet' springs to mind and the one you zios seem to use a lot too, viz "drive us into the sea", so a very apt analogy indeed.

      Also, European Jews do not originate from the Levant.

      In a John Hopkins study published Dec 14th 2012, the Israeli geneticist Eran Elhaik explains that, among the various groups of European & non-European Jews, there are no blood or family connections: "The various groups of Jews in the world today do not share a common genetic origin. We are talking here about groups that are very heterogeneous & which are connected solely by religion." The bottom line, he claims, is that the "genome of European Jews is a mosaic of ancient peoples and its origin is largely Khazar."

    • Even IF that is a fact America is not the world. I sometimes wonder if these polls are put out to try delude the Zionists into a false sense of security. Like a house of cards it can come down tumbling.

  • 'NYT' landmark: Jewish philosophy prof says we 'really ought to question' Israel's right to exist
    • @ hophmi: I would ask you how you have a mandate to speak for them. I would also remind you that Iraq and Egypt have not ethnically cleansed any Christians out nor do any of them await a Right of Return to their homes and homeland. You may also be interested to learn that thousands of Iraqi Muslims are converting to Christianity.

      As for the Copts I subscribe to the CYC channel on YT and they sure do not portray a picture you have dreamed up in your propaganda pieces.

    • But what does it actually say Norman F?

      Zionism is completely contradictory to Judaism. Judaism is subservience to the Almighty, been practiced for thousands of years a Covenant with God to be subservient to Him and Zionism is a relatively new movement, a hijacking of a religion into a nationalistic political movement.

      At the destruction of the Temple 2000 years ago Jews were given an edict, a prophecy from Solomon that they are not to attempt to recreate their sovereignty - it was/is expressly forbidden. Jews wait for the day when God will make a miracle and they will automatically serve Him in harmony then they won’t have to convince an atheist that there Is a God everybody will recognize there is a God and they will serve Him. Prior to that event they are expressly forbidden to make any attempt of Jewish nationalism or sovereignty.

      That was respected & upheld by Jews throughout the trials & tribulations of the Inquisition, the Crusades & every time period when they could have easily bought land they never did it because they understood that was against the will of the Almighty & what it means to be a Jew.

      When the concept of Zionism was developed the Jewish Rabbinical authorities said that it was expressly forbidden for Jews to create a state as to do so goes against the will of God and is not subservience to God , it’s a nationalism awa as its actions when creating a state the concept of stealing from a people or killing is all forbidden according to the Torah so in every facet Zionism is a rebellion against the command of God.

      It also says in the Torah if you rebel against God it will bring catastrophic results and Zionism has brought catastrophic results on its followers.

    • You speak as if the people you uprooted and dispossessed who languish in refugee camps don't even exist. It's really repulsive behavior and you do not impress any one with a soul.

    • @hophmi: I would look closer to home at the persecution of Christians before you judge others for your propaganda purposes if I were you.

    • So the British granted them independence did they? Or who actually gave them independence? Unilaterally declaring yourself into existence is hardly being given independence.

    • Norman F: Prof Shlomo Sand makes a far more reasoned argument:

      Shlomo Sand: "You know Zionism is somewhere I can say is a modern movement a very anti Jewish movement because Judaism could not accept a nation state that could be called Jewish state then Judaism is not Zionism and Zionism is not Judaism and by the way all the establishment of Judaism at the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th century were anti Zionist it was clear to them until 2nd WW”.

      Prof Shlomo Sand On the ‘Romans exiled Jews from Palestine’: “This is a myth, a lie because there is not even one book that speaks of the exile by the Romans the Jews are mostly converts and were not expelled from Palestine and they didn’t want to go to Palestine it was a very important place for them as a holy place but Mecca is also a very holy place for Muslims and the Ganges is a very important place for the Hindus. The promised land was not a homeland for the Jew”

  • When loving Israel is a social credential
    • Indeed Inanna. My Palestinian friend inside what is Israel has a doctor who is a Jewish Palestinian and he refuses to call himself Israeli. He calls himself Palestinian.

  • It's official: Israeli govt confirms Jews are no longer the majority between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea
  • Israeli film 'The Gatekeepers' brings truths about occupation that Palestinians are vilified for saying
  • When it’s quiet in Jerusalem the settler security cameras are still rolling
    • When was that gilad because the word ‘Jew’ is only a relatively recently used word, having been first employed in the 1750’s in England, as the J sound was just being introduced into England from France. It was first seen written down in Sheridan’s play, “The Rivals,” in the year 1775.

  • 8 former board members of Free Gaza Movement deplore anti-Semitic messaging
    • Sounds like this Ali chap was having a time of the month episode. There was nothing anti semitic in her tweet. In fact jewsnotzionists and jewsagainstzionism websites say exactly the same.

  • Free Gaza Movement Twitter controversy leads Jewish Voice for Peace to distance itself from group
  • Please no applause! Sketching the Russell Tribunal, Day 1
    • Annie, do you have any idea if the transcripts of the speeches have been uploaded onto the net?

      Dennis Banks: Palestinian Suffering in Occupation Recalls Plight of Native Americans

  • Sold-out Russell Tribunal on Palestine wraps up in New York
    • Just for the record I did reply but that comment did not pass moderation. the reply had something to do with who created Hamas.

    • Thanks Alex/MW for providing the live link for this tribunal. Been most informative.

    • “Hamas was also established under Israel's aegis and with its encouragement." Dr Reuven Pedatzur - a senior lecturer at the Strategic Studies Program, Tel Aviv University,16 August 2004.

      Without Zionist Israel there would not have been Hamas. Without Zionist Israel there would be no siege on Gaza and no need for a resistance, however meek it is.

    • giladg, still trying to put lipstick on a pig, would not live one day in a Gazan's shoes, just in a home he possibly lives in that once belonged to a Palestinian who was ethnically cleansed out to Gaza (most Gazans were originally from what is now western Israel).

    • Fringe lunatic right wing racist supremacist ideologies are not "mainstream" unless the world has morphed into something quite sinister. Clue being in fringe lunatic. This mandate you feel you have to speak for all and sundry is really quite bizarre.

    • Thanks Alex. ADL/AIPAC et al must be having full body kvetch seizures right now. The world has awoken from it's slumber.

  • New ad describing Palestinian dispossession hits Metro-North, NY
    • "Israel" consists of some 22,000 sq km of land. Only about 1,500 sq km (some 6% of present-day “Israel”) was bought by the Jews and as many commentators have previously stated on other threads buying up property does not equate to taking over the whole country. I would hazard a guess Jews probably own that much percentage of American land - or even more.

  • Israel is losing legitimacy -- according to Daniel Bell
  • Settler 'price tag' vandals attack Franciscan convent in Jerusalem
    • Yuli, a Ukranian, himself lives on an illegal settlement in the WB. I think we can safely assume he is one of these "crazies" he refers to.

    • Israeli Cabinet Minister (for Propaganda) Yuli Edelstein dismissed the vandalism as the work of “a few crazies” .

  • Anti-Obama infomerical confirms Israel's role as a partisan election issue
  • The crisis of the Israel lobby
  • Prisoners' rights protest in Ramallah calls to end the Oslo accords
    • Sassan: Most of Gaza’s residents are refugee families who were forcibly pushed out by Zionist terrorist gangs during 1947-49 and forced into a concentration camp 24 miles by 7, in which non-Jews, who originally made up over 70 % of the inhabitants, were expelled. In violation of international law, they have been prohibited from returning to their homes & have lived under crippling Israeli occupation for decades. Palestinian land is continually confiscated by Israel for Jewish-only use.

      Now how is Hamas to blame for that?

  • A sharp response to the effort to link Palestinian refugees and Jewish ones
    • Precisely , not enough European Jews answered the zionist call so they looked east to boost the numbers. Not that they were totally accepted on arrival shoved into camps and deloused. Not to mention the racial abuse.

  • Pamela Geller's 9/11 gathering features speaker calling for Islam to be 'wiped out'
  • Video: 'Tearing Palestine down-- Veolia!'
  • Tel Aviv and the failure of the Zionist dream
    • Right back at ya. Jews are a religion not an ethnicity but Palestinians are Palestinians. Not one so called "Israeli Arab" calls themselves "an Israeli". In all the documentaries I have seen the Palestinians say they had no choice in becoming "Israeli" - which would be common sense anyway. I wish you oppressors would stop claiming to have a mandate to speak for everyone from Christians to the entire world. The arrogance of you imposters in Palestine is something quite alarming.

    • Not even top 1000 probably. And most non Jewish tourists go on pilgrimages like they have always done through the centuries long before Zionist Israel self declared itself in Palestine.

    • You heap praise on a clinically insane class clown, blame Hamas for the plight of the Palestinians in Gaza concentration camp & now a bit of praise for TA. All the traits of being an Hasbara bot.

    • Nothing justifies you being in Palestine at the native Palestinians expense and I will never read a propagandist's link - ie from an impostor perspective. Why waste my time in doing that, time I will never get back.

    • Proudzionut666: Jaffa was the most advanced city in Palestine with its banking, fishing, manufacturing, & agriculture industries. All Arabic publications & newspapers were published in Jaffa. Thus the Zionists targeted Jaffa in order to destroy the Palestinian “propaganda” arm. May 23 1948, the so-called Israeli War Of Independence broke out. Only 10 days after the outbreak, the majority of Jaffa’s Arab population ,at least 70k, were ethnically cleansed. Haifa’s Arab population, numbering at least 35k, suffered the same fate.

    • You sound like the white apartheid South Africans who would say they lived in 1st world cities and the natives lived in the 3rd world. Doesn't cut it. Palestinian culture is different to European culture, in fact is more rich and diverse, and what's more their architecture fits in with the countryside/landscape whereas Zionist structures do not fit in, are completely ugly and work against the whole nature of the region. Zionist sense of aesthetics is absolute madness.

    • Herzl did not even say it had to be in Palestine though. It could have been anywhere.

  • 'This is Nakba of 2012': Israel plans to expel Bedouin community to build Jewish town in Negev
    • Ilan Pappe lecture on his new book "The Forgotten Palestinians" in Sydney, Australia:

    • Victim of Jewish Terrorism

      interview with Ami Ortiz who in March 2008 was the victim of a bomb placed at his home by a Jewish terrorist who hated his family because they are Messianic Jews.

  • Ridicule of Netanyahu at UNGA won't quit
    • To anyone rational he looked like a class clown.

    • NYT actually called him "professorial". Lol.

      Rick Gladstone and David Sanger wrote :

      With an almost professorial air, Mr. Netanyahu held up a diagram of a bomb with a fuse to show the Israeli view of Iran’s progress in achieving the ability to make a nuclear weapon. He drew a red line through the point at which Iran would have amassed enough medium-enriched uranium to make a bomb–which he said would be in the spring or summer of 2013.

  • Researcher: More than 75,000 Palestinians arrested by Israel since Sept. 2000
    • Mahmoud Abbas asks UN General Assembly to recognize Palestine as 'non-member state'

      Mr. President,
 Ladies and Gentlemen,

      More than 64 years have passed since A1-Nakba and a large portion of those who were its direct victims and witnessed its horrors have died with their memories preserved in their minds and hearts about their beautiful world that was devastated, their warm homes that were demolished, and their peaceful villages that were erased from existence, and about their renaissance that was undermined, and their loved ones, dear men, women and children, who were killed in wars, massacres, attacks, raids and incursions, and about their beautiful country that was a beacon of coexistence, tolerance, progress and a crossroads of civilization. They died in the camps of displacement and refuge to which they were expelled following their uprooting fi'om their homeland as they awaited the moment in which thcy would resume their suspended lives and complete their journey that was interrupted and repair their shattered dreams. They died while they clung to their legitimate human right to justice and freedom and to redress for the historic unprecedented injustice inflicted upon them.

      At present, 77% of the Palestinian people are under the age of 35 years. Although they did not experience the horrors of A1-Nakba, they know very well the details of its horrendous facts from the accounts told to them by their parents and grandparents who endured it. And, they are suffering its ongoing effects until today and every day as a result of the practices of the occupation and the settlers on a land that is diminishing and a horizon before them that is blocked against their simple, ordinary dreams. They see their homeland and, their present and future vulnerable to continued usurpation and they say firmly: we will not allow a new Nakba to happen."

  • Both Obama and Romney call Netanyahu
  • How I fell in love with Nablus
    • Proudzio: From jon's link:

      "It is likely that Shechem was one of the oldest settlements in Canaan. The earliest written record comes from an inscription on the Stele of Khu-Sebek who was a noble in the court of Sesotris III (c. 1880-1840 BC). It reads: "his majesty reached a foreign country of which the name was skmm [Shechem]. Then skmm fell, together with the wretched Retunu [an Egyptian name for the inhabitants of Syro-Palestine]." An Egyptian execration text (a clay tablet on which curses are inscribed and then ceremonially broken) dating from the mid nineteenth century refers to one Ibish-hadad of Shechem, indicating that Shechem was an important centre of resistance against Egyptian rule (Toombs, 1992: 1179)."

      So nada to do with the Israelites. It's history goes back way before they INVADED.

  • Benjamin Netanyahu: Master of show-and-tell
  • Fire, Fire! And no water
    • "Israel" could not survive were it not for denying Palestinians access to water in the OT. The survival of the oppressed Palestinians and how they get about their daily lives for 64 years is really something to be admired. I am in awe of their patience and resilience. Thanks for sharing (and caring).

  • Abbas warns repeatedly of 'new Nakba' --Israel ethnically cleansing Palestinians
    • @ mondonut: Well sane people want what is all theirs which is their right so tough. Criminals do not get to decide the fate of their victims.

  • In front of global audience, Netanyahu draws his red line (on his ridiculous bomb cartoon)
  • Pam Geller's view of civilizational clash with Islam finds a home in the GOP
  • Anti-Iran street theater group denies it has Israel agenda. Wait a second--
    • Sounds like one of their Brainstorming sessions with PR companies. Talk about false advertising! A defending the indefensible product.

    • "Human rights"? Is she that sassan character in the flesh? I would have retorted "but what about "basic human rights" for the oppressed Palestinians?!" and watched her jaw hit the floor.

  • The 'context' of the Gaza slaughter is a, the bible, b, the Nakba
  • Netanyahu tells a Christian Zionist pal that the bible was Ben Gurion's claim to the land
  • 4 arrested for 'correcting... poisonous ad'
    • Amen Sherry.

    • Yeah but this is just rubbing salt in the wounds of a people the usurping zionists savagely stole the land from and oppress as we speak. It's out of order.

    • Annie he also has not graced us with his presence (read: hasbara propaganda) for a month and a half and shows up just to say that. Pitiful really.

    • I am all for rational freedom of expression but fringe lunatic bigotry aimed to provoke hatred and intolerance I am not. By free speech of course sassan means the latter. I notice in all his comments not once does he criticize zionism. Obvious who sent this messenger.

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