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B'Tselem's cameras were there, but apart from audio of the shots, didn't manage to film the incident:
link to 972mag.com
According to Noam Sheizaf, "Palestinian and Israeli media is reporting that his condition is grave."
From Ma'an:
"Najeh al-Safadi, 22, was handcuffed by a guard from the illegal settlement of Yitzhar who threw him to the ground and shot him while other settlers kicked him, a relative said."
link to maannews.net
These Yitzhar pr*cks will step it up to murder in another week or two.
Another Sabbath shooting of a Palestinian (after setting fields on fire again):
link to english.al-akhbar.com
The villagers were attacked when they attempted to put out the fires, the victim was shot in the stomach.
When the Wall came down in '89 I remember the line that "Capitalism" had destroyed Communism. I couldn't help wondering if it had another 'enemy' to destroy - Democracy. And it certainly seems to be the general direction of things.
You need another Revolutionary war for Independence, this time to get rid of King Bibi. He and his vice-regents are taxing the American people too highly, and demanding a tad too much fealty.
There used to be an orchard at the bottom of my parents garden, but after the owners house went up in flames, her son sold it and a new street was built. The first owners of the house at the bottom of our garden assumed, because of the names my parents had given us, that our family were 'papist'. The new owner was an Orangeman from Tyneside, we were a family of southern transplants to Yorkshire (and dad's idea of 'Sunday school' was the Working Men's Club - no RC except for his convert aunt). This was barely 30yrs ago. One of my brothers married one of their daughters, but it lasted less than 13months before she went off with a man older than her dad. Until that time I hadn't known this existed in mainland UK.
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'This' of course, being religious prejudice, not runaway wives.
Isn't it a disgustingly pitiful amount! There really ought to be a couple of zeros at least after that number, to compenesate fatherless families, wounded, kidnapped, unlawfully imprisoned, humiliated, stolen from participants. And only a "note of regret" to accompany this little bit of Israel's loose change.
Well, looky here folks! Compensation, at the 11th hour (well, story time stamp is just after 11pm!)
link to guardian.co.uk
£4m paid to a Jewish foundation in Turkey, which will disburse it to victims and their families!
It ought to make a few racist Israelis reflect, but it'll only provoke their fury. They're too far gone.
Extremist *elected* politicians were present and whipping up the crowd in the fever of hatred. Does that happen in US, UK, France? Ours (UK) would be arrested for incitement if it happened here. However next day in Israel, only slightly less extreme governing party politicians were recommending the detention of the victims of this pogrom!
Israel. Just, yeuch. And this will worsen over the next few months. There is no will to stop it.
George Monbiot seems to be bewildered by the recent attempts to downplay or write off the genocides in Rwanda and Srebrenica coming from the left:
link to monbiot.com
He's particularly disappointed in Chomsky.
Tel Aviv, huh?
Next time someone touts the tolerance of Tel Aviv, anywhere, this video should be linked.
On air as I tap the keys:
link to bbc.co.uk
"Decision Time" discussing how to avoid war with Iran, participants being formerly advisors/Ambassadors/Envoys in UK and US govts (inc current admins).
Should be available as podcast shortly after broadcast.
giladg
You are blanking out at least 10 times as many acts of terror and barbarity committed by you, your family, and your compatriots who happen to be members of the tribe living in that geographic space, busily stealing and erasing a nation. Are you and yours at any point going to acknowledge your crimes against the Palestinians? Or their right to resist them, no matter how ineffectual a non-state fight is against the might of a military with a superpower funding and supplying it?
dimduck
It probably originally meant referencing the hope of making a brief pilgrimage to the holy city. Then with the long passage of time and the advent of zionism, the meaning was warped into significantly more than that.
And the only British Prime Minister in living memory (well, mine anyway) to become suddenly very wealthy after office is one T Blair. Prior to his PMship, Mrs B was the one pulling in the bigger money. He's set things up so the sources of his money remain secret.
link to guardian.co.uk
Wonder how much is connected into the same sources as Clinton?
sub head "Ethic cleansing/" etc -
Are there any ethics left to be cleansed?
Isn't Israel an ethic free zone already?
@Fredfrog
The article was posted by a witness to the full incident. There is photographic evidence of the full incident available. The witness who posted was obviously determined that the child who was the VICTIM of, at the very least, bullying by an adult who snatched and broke his flag, should not be FURTHER victimised by an armed, uniformed thug who would undoubtedly at a minimum rough him up, and ensure he was charged with something, and physically intervened. She knows what you deny repeatedly, that in Israel, being Palestinian = open invitation for assault by the 'masters' at any time they so chose.
Fredfrog:
There are other sites on the web which trace the incident from the child's flag being snatched by an adult male and onwards. Why should he be arrested for waving his national flag in his own country, which has been stolen? The Israeli Jerusalem 'annexation' law is illegal and unrecognised internationally. Israel's braying asses notwithstanding.
@OgleR
"Indigenous should always be read as the Latest Conquerers"
Sheer twaddle.
ok, so you're down with the antipodeans, how about the Maori? I've read/heard various estimates for inhabitation of NZ between 800 to 1000 years (ie, only up to twice as long as migration to Americas), so are they or the waves of euro/etc immigrants & descendants indigenous? You, for instance, are about as indigenous as a wallaby at the local zoo. That the faith of your forefathers was founded in the region does not make it your home, or give you any rights over it.
Annie:
That settler attack - there's three videos of it at Maan:
link to maannews.net
And a shorter single video in the Guardian:
link to guardian.co.uk
Of course, the Grauni piece aims for 'balance' by decontextualising and implying village stone throwers had some 'blame'.
Bidisha's website links to a short documentary of last year's Palestine Festival of Literature:
link to youtube.com
with several interviews with different participants, including John McCarthy (who also has a new book out about Israeli Palestinians, "You Can't Hide the Sun").
Bidisha's site:
link to bidisha-online.blogspot.co.uk
There's no daylight between 'em, Mooser. Their interests are one and the same.
Pity no group has prepared and presented the class on Zionist infiltrators making a mockery of the Constitution and subverting democracy!
How many of the multiplicity of 'think'tanks' were founded post 1980? They've always seemed to me to be largely right wing, founded, funded and often staffed from the same small groups. They became the go-to guys for both the politicians and the journos, so the views presented on any issue/subject became very narrow, any views they did not approve were scorned - and dutifully copied by pols and papers. But are they a form of rightist consolidation, or spread? Do we 'get' any views not pre-approved by one or more of the think-tanks presented with any seriousness? Or are they the corporate owners/producers of political ideas permitted to the pols and the public?
The four comments the editorial attracted so far display 100% ignorance, or 100% hasbara, depending how one reads them!
If Florence the nurse shark can turn vegetarian then the Israeli land sharks can give up theft too!
link to thesun.co.uk
Dramatic change is possible. She's given up fish for lettuce and cucumber, so Israel can give up land for peace.
@Mooser
They only lose their heads metaphorically nowadays!
Tony Benn = Anthony Wedgewood Benn = Viscount Stansfield.
Renounced title on death of his father so he could stand for Parliament. Lefty firebrand back in the day. Father of (mr) Hilary Benn MP.
There are others, but I could only think of this one right now.
Off topic sleazy question. How many generations of guilt is it that your religion recommends for sins?
The ICCA website is here:
link to antisem.org
The site name implies a concern with only one kind of perceived 'hate'.
The hunger strike is OVER:
link to guardian.co.uk
Israeli govt official has confirmed deal has been signed.
@Fredfrog
HAHAHAHAHA!
"Israel doesn't need the money"!!!
So why have they made such a big production out of demanding over 30% increase this year, totalling $4bn (and interest) to the US taxpayer?
Is it just Bibi playing games of control, demostrating that he, not the US, owns Congress? That should be a massive cause for concern around the whole world, let alone the poor misguided US voters!
I don't like the 'coming out' analogy. Coming out is more about revealing something about oneself that might change how others see/treat you, as it is also a statement about how you'll be living your life.
This one goes back to Phil's abuse pieces. A child is trying to tell his/her parents that beloved Uncle Israel is abusing his stepkids, who the rest of the family consider to be 'troubled' and 'troublesome' despite his supposed kindness. Will they believe the child, or round on him/her for telling lies or spreading slander?? Uncle Izzy's got the whole family dazzled by his cleverness, his achievements, his affableness, etc. They've forgotten he married into everything he has, or that he has generous backers for all his wild schemes.
Scott, that's NOT 'gay', that's pedophilia.
Do you seem pessimistic? Yup.
Are you unduly pessimistic? Dunno.
Here come the neo-Duchy of Walmart, the neo-Duchy of Exxon-Mobil, etc! We, merely the peasants in the aisles, tugging our forelocks.
Military Religious Freedom Foundation is a good place to start with the new American Crusader Army:
link to militaryreligiousfreedom.org
Meanwhile, Dooley has an equally evil Israeli twin - Danish rasher basher Col Eisner has a new job as deputy commander of IDF's Tactical Training Center in Tze'elim:
link to english.pnn.ps
where I'm sure he'll do just the same kind of work Dooley does.
MOODY'S HAS DOWNGRADED ISRAEL!
link to middleeastmonitor.org.uk
"security challenges ... are having a dramatic impact n the Israeli economy"
Can't find where I read it at the time, but Ashton was credited (and denounced by, ahem, one side) for getting the 5 week hiatus. Possibly Bibi and Co. will find she has balls of steel, while their iron balls are rusting. I certainly hope so, since Israel's demands of Iran go waaaay beond the NPT rules.
Along with the various bills she's had a hand in writing, the govt committees she's been part of, wiki has her down as a founder member of the Association of Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI). With people like her in there at the beginning, is it any wonder human rights for non-Jews seem to have gotten nowhere in either Israel or Palestine?? Such organisations are nobbled before they're born!
"Israel has the right to control Palestinian natural growth. Control of birth rates is not racism" - Ruth Gavison
link to shitliberalzionistssay.tumblr.com
No source given for when/where quoted from, but i googled Ruth Gavison. She's a Prof of Human Rights at the Hebrew Uni of Jerusalem. Another example of the supremacist mindset, of the people who make and enforce laws that are deliberately made to benefit only Chosen people. Those that fail to do so must be mistakes on Israel's statute books, and either ignored or replaced with the right kind of law!
This is what Shein had to say for herself in '09:
link to youtube.com
Her own brief synopsis of life and career includes not just being a Colonel in the IDF, but also working as culture and educational something or other (sorry, missed exact wording, won't watch again) for the embassy(?) in US before getting this job.
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Just, y'know, I think she could be a leetle biased against Palestinians, given her career path.
Now try this:
"A passionate, Saudi-oriented, Arabic-speaking community will alsmost certainly support Saudi Arabia and stay connected to Islam,"
and remember or imagine the response.
Passionate attachment should not be fostered to anything but one's own nation, if then!
Couldn't Avishai's argument have been made in the pre-Civil War South?
Is he blind? Should the world 'ring-fence' the privileges of any of its elites because they somehow deserve to be elites and to pass that status along to their kids?? Even on the back of outrageous injustice? Wow. What is going on in the heads of these people?! Yet this position seems to be a core neo-con/lib article of faith. In the US, in the UK and the rest of the West, and in Israel. Protect the elites! Let them have more, more and much more! Don't tax them, they'll cry! Don't challenge their right to vacuum up more of the wealth of their nations and the world! Don't challenge their right to slam the door in the face of other people's kids, their own must inherit it all! etc, etc. Like the writer in the post about "Girls", I guess Avishai doesn't break out of the elite bubble much.
"O Lordy, lordy. So there's Bin Laden, hiding in Abbottabad and he's waffling on about Fisk"
link to independent.co.uk
BS fredfrog.
The protesters usually wave flags, but then the IOF start firing their various missiles - you know, the skunk, the tear gas, the rubber bullets - at which point SOME of the protesters respond in self-defense. You of course, have tunnel vision and can only see those parts of the picture your zio-handlers tell you to look at.
As for the hunger strikers, they have not been charged with ANY offence, they've been incarcerated on Israel's prison version of a 'rolling contract' just for existing and breathing while Palestinian. If any 'secret evidence' were revealed, the whole world would be laughing its head off at Israeli stupidity and cupidity.
These guys are both supposed to be Americans.
So WHY the "we" and "us" when referring to Israel and Israelis? Is their primary self-identifier Israeli?
More BS from asherprat. You do NOT mean 'Israeli law' you mean Israeli MILITARY law, applied ONLY to Palestinians living in Palestine, but not to ISRAELIS and other JEWISH immigrants who have been settled into the ILLEGAL shtetlments. For those chosen people in this stolen foreign land, only Israeli civilan law applies. Israeli 'military law' has been designed and planned to facilitate theft of land, destruction of livelihoods, theft of resources, removal of Palestinians from their land.
The first answer was the only answer asherprat.
Israel has set the army up as the 'law' in this stolen land. Palestinian rights and Palestinian ownership only exist until the army revokes them in favor of some Israeli who wants to steal the land or get rid of the indigenous people.
Medea was speaking to Dotun Adebayo (bbcR5Live, "Up All Night") over the weekend, about a book she's written wrt the drone strikes. why no mention of that? I didn't catch the title.
Cameron's dad died about a year or so ago in the south of France - he borrowed a plane/got a lift over there which was all over our press.
Dunno anything about Sarkozy's papa!
Seems like London Stock Exchange has been "Occupied"!
Mayday Mayday, 1%!
Yeah - the one in his mirror!
I don't suppose they'll be inviting John McCarthy, former Lebanon hostage for five and a half years. He's written a new book, "You Can't Hide the Sun", all about Palestinian Israelis:
link to bbc.co.uk
There's going to be an interview with him within the next hour or two here:
link to bbc.co.uk
Did Alien hordes invade Kashmir, or parts thereof, and take it over? Are the original Kashmiris denied citizenship in their own land, or are the alien invaders further colonizing them? Is the Kashmiri government subsidized to the tune of Billions by the US taxpayer? Are the internal Kashmiri refugees paid for to the tune of hundreds of millions by US and EU taxpayers? Do we, or are we encouraged to, think of the Kashmiri invaders as 'us'? What kind of parallel are you trying to make, Bloemker? There really isn't one.
There's at least half a dozen of these Co-op outlets in my town - the largest being my local, just up the road. There was one large one in the town my family moved from when I was a kid. The pronunciation down south was rather like 'cowup'. When we moved north my ears found it hard to figure out what the 'kwop' was!
Zionist is NOT a "national designation" it is an ugly political ideology which has always included the necessity of ethnic cleansing. If the traits are inherent to the political ideology, then those who adopt that ideology are, for instance, adopting racism. It is an unavoidable fact. ANY reading of Zionism by its founders and implementers clearly shows exactly what the ideology is.
"Palestinian culture" is simply NOT analogous to zionism. That's rather like attempting to compare "Republican (or Democrat) culture" to French culture. Impossible!
Fredfrog
I'll assume you are a native English speaker. That means, wherever you live, someone may come along and expel you from your home and your country. But that doesn't matter, you can go live in any country where English is spoken, can't you! Your usurpers won't give a damn that your family is scattered to the winds in several different countries, that you are never compensated for your losses, that the country forced to take you in never gives you or your kin citizenship, that you long for the hills and fields or your own land, you'll still be among 'your kind' with similar history, speaking the same lingo, whether it be in New Zealand or the Highlands of Scotland. That's your pathetically stupid argument.
link to antonyloewenstein.com
Horowitz comes out with his usual cr*p, Zizek gets beeped when he calls bs, and they go all MontyPython at the end, over who's the most persecuted!
Whoo-hoo!
Latest Assange RT "World Tomorrow" on Antony Loewensteins site has Slavoj Zizek and David Horowitz blowing gaskets at each other! And I've only got a couple a minutes into it!
Pro-peace = anti donation?
Too many of the "little" people cannot afford to fund O's re-election, so he's dependent on those with sagging pockets and barely taxed squillions.
What will it take to see the true face of Israel?
Probably several Eisners going Baruch Goldstein on Internationals. They restrain themselves from that, though I'm sure he reallyreally wishes he could.
So fredfrog believes that Israel can take hostages (ie, political prisoners) and hold them without trial indefinitely, simply because they do not accept Jewish overlords or theft of their nation? That it "caved" by agreeing to release him?
Fred, it's ISRAEL that holds political hostages. Thousands of them. After the peace treaty in Northern Ireland, even bombers were released. Now, just like 'former' Israeli terrorists (their terrorism continues, as they support and fund the theft of Palestine with the cloak of respectability), they are part of the government.
Fredfrog
Don't you find it at least a teensy bit troubling that in order to falsify a case against a man even they hadn't imprisoned, Israeli translators deliberately MIStranslated even a bloomin' poem?? Doesn't it trouble you that this often happens to those Israel designates as an 'enemy'? Surely there would be a lot more against many of these people than Israeli smear tactics and libels? Or is that the authentic Israeli way of 'proving' anti-semitism? What citizens of the UK could hold their heads high if Saleh had been 'banned' from this country for such utter trivia?
What's between your ears Fredfrog? This was an EXERCISE carried out against REAL people who were NOT aware of it. NORMAL forces would use either cardboard cutouts or teams of their own men WITHOUT live ammo, and not in a residential area. You are a sick tadpole.
I thought Eisner was suspended from front-line duties and confined to a desk for two years? Certainly not dismissed.
And the fellow who kicked the handcuffed prisoner was dismissed, though not the murderer - no consequences for him.
Israel is certifiably insane.
For those of us in the UK, Larissa Sansour's work is on show at this exhibition in Manchester:
link to guardian.co.uk
Not much more than 70 miles from me, I'm going to try and get there to see it.
It includes the tower block!
And I'm sure NYT among others never makes mention of the terrorist background of so many Sinn Fein ministers when they visit. One man's terrorist, etc.
Again with the "Israel" when talking about people trying to visit Palestine!
Do these types believe Palestine has been thoroughly destroyed already? Are they merely now trying to make the rest of the world accept the murder of Palestine?
Yet idf will decide to use a Palestinian village as a prop for an exercise on invasion, without the residents knowledge, and when it all goes to shit, shoot and kill a villager with impunity:
link to 972mag.com
Yet the one who kicked a handcuffed prisoner on the same exercise was booted out.
Engelhard is obviously a dim bulb if he is unable to recognize Israel from Palestine, which is where Eisner came up against these terrifying cyclist thugs!
Or is it that a lifetime of zio-cult-indoctrination has disappeared Palestine from his consciousness?
Annie
OT, but what's the "Greater Israel Conference" at Harvard? 19 - 20 Apr.
It's on the fun site you like:
link to shitliberalzionistssay.tumblr.com
Edelstein is someone who wants Palestine and Palestinians to cease to exist. To him, it is imperative that criticism of Israel (inc "Judea and Samaria" or the Golan) must be seen as anti-semitism. His is the FIRST name on the "Steering committee" of the "Inter-parliamentary Coalition for Combating Anti-semitism". Getting that version of anti-semitism accepted by other governments is a goal - in fact it is point 1 of their "London Declaration". Bragging about his fight "against any territorial concessions in the Golan Heights, the Jordan valley. Judea and Samaria and of course Jerusalem" appears on Edelstein's profile page.
Israeli "diplomacy" means finding ways to carry on stealing the land of another country without any of the normal consequences! That would be "Anti-semitism", see. And it's just as anti-semitic to criticize Israelis for treating non-Jews as so much less than equal in the lands they've stolen for the "Jewish collectivity".
link to antisem.org
Link to the "video" showing activists attacking idf with "daggers and clubs" - I know you can't!
They used bits of furniture, such as table legs. Don't you think a bicycle could provide some nasty weapons? The cross bar, the spokes, etc, could really really threaten the safety of those poor ickle soldiers. You're just spinnin' it wrong, Fredfrog.
About as accidental as your feeble comments.