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  • The deafening silence around the Hamas proposal for a 10-year truce
    • @travellerh
      The recent case of a disused school being used to store weapons (tho' whose among all the factions hasn't been made clear) is the ONLY case that's true and confirmed. None of those Israeli 'precision' bombs seem to have caused the secondary explosions that would be proof that they actually hit any other such! DaBakr elsewhere on this site is claiming another, but offers absolutely no link to where he got his news.

    • Maybe this too:
      link to
      "3.41pm BST
      A correspondent with BBC Arabic was attacked while delivering a live report from inside Israel at the Gaza border Tuesday.

      Correspondent Firas Khatib was rushed and knocked off-screen by an unidentified man “at the Gaza border,” as Khatib described it. The attacker can be heard cursing at Khatib. He is thrown off Khatib by an unidentified man in press garb.

      Must see. BBC Arabic reporter attacked live on air by an Israeli near #Gaza border link to

      — Jenan Moussa (@jenanmoussa) July 22, 2014
      Khatib, seemingly unshaken, carries on his report off-camera as a BBC anchor in London cuts in. When the camera returns to him Khatib gestures in the direction of the attacker and says Israeli protesters were in the area and the report would be updated later.

      Khatib is a veteran correspondent whose work has included analysis on the Israeli perspective on the Arab Spring."

      There was also this:

      "2.59pm BST
      UN chief Ban Ki-Moon has just been speaking at a press conference with Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu in Tel Aviv.

      He began by condemning rocket fire from Gaza and the use of schools, hospitals and mosques for military purposes.

      Ban was moved by the murder of three Israeli boys and the killing of Mohammed Abu Khdeir, he said.

      He said the two sides should stop fighting and start talking, urging Israel to exercise "maximum restraint". "

      Just ONE proven use of civilian infrastructure, and that was disused! But it leads to Ban parroting hasbara, and it's that bit that gets quoted on radio and world service bulletins, as if it is a fact.

  • 'Telegenically Dead': Israel’s crumbling media war
    • link to

      Todays top stories are all from the region:

      Interview with Gen Yaakov Amidror
      Interview with Hamas spox Ihab al Ghosein
      Interview with Dr Medhat Abbas, Al- Aqsa Hospital

      Links to Jonathan Miller's blog

      And to a 'most watched' video of Israeli military claiming Hamas have built an underground town. (I'm just off to watch that one!)

  • US Jews occupy Israeli army support office in NY in civil disobedience action
    • I guess Palikaka can say that because s/he considers not their faith (some may have none) but their nationality to be Jewish. Since the only nationality in Israel is not 'Israeli' but 'Jewish', Palikaka is confused, and like many raised on ziopoop, is unable to see or understand, fellow Jews as nationals of other nations. To him/her, they all automatically belong to Israel above all others.

  • Naomi Wolf walked out of synagogue when they had nothing to say about Gaza massacre
    • @NormanF
      And you have not a word to say about the Palestinian children being murdered beneath massive Israeli bombs.

      You have not a word to say about the clear fact that Hamas have NOT used their tunnels to 'infiltrate' Israel on civilian killing sprees at all before the current ISRAELI aggression, and have used them solely to attack military targets since.

      You have not a word to say about the right of Palestinians to defend themselves from genuinely massive Israeli aggression.

      You have zero decency, you treat Israel as if it is an object of religious worship and believe even the most egregious lies emanating from it.

      You have nothing to say about the venomous and genocidal anti-Arab outbursts all over Israel and occupied Palestine - which have led to violence and murders.

      You stand in the toilet of history.

  • Burning children
    • Restraint that's led to the death toll currently being above 600?
      What's the casualty ratio again? Between 70% and 80% civilian on the Palestinian side and what - 95% military on the Israeli side. Remind us again, who are the terroreeests?

  • Renouncing my Israeli citizenship
    • Why? With all the zio propaganda yelling 'come on in, the water's lovely'?
      Compensation for false selling.

  • Video: Night raid in Bethlehem's Aida Refugee Camp
    • Well, impossible to see, yes, but mebbe you could listen to it!
      link to

      If you listen from somewhere around 20mins in. Levy mentions a few things we haven't seen on here.

    • OOH!
      Gideon Levy on bbcR4 news at 10pm!
      Is the Israeli army the 'most moral' army?
      Up against Col Richard Kemp, proving he's sold his soul to the zionists.

  • The fascists wanted to murder us: An eyewitness account of Haifa's anti-war protest
    • Hey, Palikaka,
      Where have you been hiding while your idf has fired twice as many bombs onto Palestinian civilians, with several thousand times the explosive power?
      Where were you during the weeks before, when the idf targeted some 50 sites in Gaza with their bombs, while Hamas did not fire back? Only the smaller factions did. Hamas didn't protect then from the repercussions. Their rockets only started *after* the idf bombed one of their tunnels, killing several Hamas personnel.
      And where is your voice decrying the wanton slaughter the idf is quite deliberately inflicting on Gaza's civilian population? Have you watched the video of the very clearly unarmed youth being murdered by one of yours during the ceasefire? Or is he one less to breed more of the same?

  • Finally, Israel is alienating the US mainstream media
  • In Photos: Worldwide protest against Israeli attack on Gaza (Updated)
    • Listening to LBC at moment, NO mention in the bulletins. Duncan Barkes asking who is to blame? Spoke to Israeli in London, spoke to a Dena, who he keeps describeing as being in the West Bank , Israel!!! Fired off texts asking for correction, simply repeated. Bellowing at radio in fury. Had other voices on, but no Palestinians yet.

  • Video: A beautiful brother went looking for his family in the death zone (Updated)
  • Look at Netanyahu's 'evidence' that civilians are harboring rockets in Gaza
  • Israeli military destroyed el-Wafa hospital even though it knew there were no weapons inside
  • Israel is in a pickle
    • Oh yeah! Can't link at the moment, but Desertpeace has the hasbara version followed by the genuine article - in Syria!

    • Interesting Walid. Israel will be unable to claim 'terroreeesm' if these Hamas forces haven't made for civilian homes and massacred them, will they! If Hamas victims are military, they turn out to be the more 'moral' fighters. Israel, the IDF, with its multitudinous civilian casualties, including so many children, will again look even worse.

  • NBC reverses; Mohyeldin to return to Gaza to cover 'Palestinian side of story'
    • Congratulations to Ayman! And all those who put pressure in the right places.
      Meanwhile, on its own "Feedback" program (bbcR4), they had a segment on the protests about biased coverage, called in a boss of the dept, and exonerated themselves. So that fight has to go on.

  • 'Jews Against Genocide' hold memorials for killed Palestinian children in front of Israeli govt buildings around the world
    • Your comment and your handle tell us all we need to know!
      You're a complete narcissist who has only the 'Little Red Riding Hood' side of the story - complete mythology.
      IE "for nine years only one side was hurting us" is total rubbish. For nine years and many more, your side has been hurting the 'other' as often and as viciously as it can! If you can get out of your 'poor little me, I'm such a victim' mindset you can very easily discover that it is your 'side' that provokes fireworks from Gaza and then smashes it with massive bombs - how else are they going to maintain both the $billions from the US and the sales of their 'battlefield' proven weaponry?

  • Hasbarapocalyse: Naftali Bennett says Hamas committing 'massive self-genocide'
    • Nice one, thanks!
      By the way, the first speaker was Nicholas Soames, grandson of Winston Churchill.

      And then the computer forced me into a game of whack-a-mole! Every time I ended the youtube page, it popped back up in four more windows and tabs! mutter mutter discontent. bah.

  • How can Human Rights Watch conclude an Israeli didn't want to kill 4 boys on the beach?
    • Maybe someone should send HRW a copy of Torat HaMelech. They'll understand how righteous such murders are then.

  • 'Heartbroken' at 'horrifying' killing of boys, State Dep't says Israel must do more to prevent civilian deaths
    • It's probably fear of all those possible post-State lucrative appointments going up in a puff of smoke.

  • 'We are moving from Iron Dome to an iron fist': Israel launches ground invasion of Gaza
    • Just listened to LtBloodyCol Lerner interviewed again, this stood out (given as a reason for the invasion):
      "Distance the terrorists from our borders".
      Given the warning orders for people to move out of the north of Gaza, and the same for those in the east, it seems clear that they are going to force the people into a much smaller area of the ghetto/enclave, and increase vastly the barren no-go buffer zone. Maybe a couple of miles? They don't give a damn about the people, no-one could put it past them.

    • @NCINA
      Oh, right, and as a mother, an atheist, and a "damn proud right wing zionist" you're paralytic on the kool-aid, full blown ziocaine psychosis, because we're only sorta "people", vastly lesser beings than your zionist self, yeah? Two legged animals, as per the rabbis you claim not to believe?
      Crank. Thieving racist.
      That mall turned out to be in Malaysia you booby.
      And what's a five-star hotel worth to a non-existent tourist industry?

  • Rachel Maddow ignores the story in Israel/Palestine
    • Replying to your comment about Sisi on the four boys thread here (my computer doesn't like it, and messages me that internet explorer has to close :( . )
      Sisi is zionists wet dream - esp Caroline Glick (!) - his mother was Jewish, her brother Mossad.

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  • The trojan horse of liberal Zionism
    • According to journalists who witnessed the atrocity, it was some 20yards from the hotel. If rockets had been fired at night from the beach, I'm pretty damn sure it was a lot further down the beach than that.
      Also, on one occasion when he was wheeled out as army spox, LtCol Lerner stated that they had been told that militants would be at that particular spot at that particular time! (What, kicking a ball around with their little brothers/nephews/kids? Does that make the kids 'collateral'? If they aren't on active duty, aren't they legally civilians at that point?) That was on World Service news, however later, on R4 news, he had wound his neck in and wouldn't speculate on why they shelled that particular spot.

    • @hophmi
      "The IDF has said..."
      I suppose their word is the only 'gospel' you'll ever believe in, eh, hoph.

      Do you think we're stupid enough to fall for their crap? Wouldn't the international journalists at the hotel have been reporting that they had in fact, seen/heard rockets launching from nearby? I think it's about time Your Royal Trolliness got dumped from this site for sheer heartlessness and total moral blindness.

  • How many people have died from Gaza rockets into Israel?
    • Things just got a little bit worse - Cabinet reshuffle sees Wm Hague (who at least has spoken out a few times) leaving the post of Foreign Sec, and expected to be replaced by Philip Hammond, described as "a cold fish". Not by any means liberal (described gay relationships as like "incest"). I don't think he'll be on the right side of history in this instance.

  • Israel's message to the Palestinians: Submit, leave or die
  • Relentless bombing on Gaza continues: Israel kills media worker, 9 people watching World Cup on beach
    • @Majority Viewer
      "Western-centric parties reasserting themselves politically"
      Like the French Front National, or Hungary's Jobbik?
      Bit of a fascist are you? No wonder you like what Israel is!

    • Complaint sent.

  • State Dep't says Israel has a right to defend itself, but can't say the same of Palestinians
    • Daniel Sieradski is fighting back against the ADL's poor 'ickle Iswail ad (What if Hamas was in your Neighborhood) with Gaza superimposed on New York, with missile range added.
      He's come up with What if Your Neighborhood was a Giant Prison? (and he's renamed ADL under its logo - Arab Defamation League)
      link to

  • Video: Diane Sawyer misrepresents photo of Gazans in aftermath of Israeli bombing as Israeli victims of Palestinian missiles (Updated)
  • White House says US can't stop 'tsunami' of boycott and isolation if Israel won't end 'occupations'
    • Intriguing. If he co-ordinates for that region, would he be perhaps, co-ordinating various folk to be available to speak about the current events? I've noticed a few former ambassadors popping up during overnight interviews in the past few days, who are most definitely not 'on message' wrt Israel's pov!

  • Why is Mohammed Abu Khdeir's death different from all other Palestinian deaths?
    • @Truthunleashed
      You ignore the fact that the Israeli government used this incident to rampage thru the West Bank, killing up to 10 Palestinians, wrecking homes and belongings along the way, stealing several millions from their victims (cash, jewellery, other belongings), arrest hundreds, and so forth. There is no equivalency whatever, and you come across as ignorant and pompous.

    • @abc
      Much more background on the murderers, including naming one of them, here:

      link to

  • The 'so-called peace process' and Gaza 'siege' -- Mohyeldin conveys Palestinian despair on MSNBC
  • 'Operation Protective Edge' begins: Gaza rocked by Israeli airstrikes as Palestinian militants shoot at Jerusalem
    • @Jon66
      "but not planning for a response to rocket fire from Gaza would have been idiotic."

      That's very naive. You seem not to have even noticed that the rocket fire is itself a response to ongoing bombing raids by Israel over the past several bloody weeks! As a result of the unity government, and their humiliation in the 'peace process' Israel most certainly *did* want this action. Read this article for a clear presentation:

      link to

      There's a lot more to it than the title.

  • 'Jewish' or 'Israeli' -- NYT, BBC, and CNN make different word choice
  • A Call from Gaza: Support our right to life!
    • @Truthunleashed (haha)
      What you're saying is that if a blindman is being attacked by a bunch of bullies in a crowd, he dare not attempt to fight back in case he hits those in the crowd not attacking him, y'know, the ones just egging on the bullies.
      IOW, if Gaza militants cannot buy or build technologically advanced weapons, they have no right to defend themselves from Israeli bombings, yeah?

  • Contradicting Israeli officials, family of Tarek Abu Khdeir says he was attacked while in uncle's Jerusalem backyard
    • Remember the Palestinian Amb who got blown up (I think beginning of the year)? Just hearing it was a semtex *book* bomb! Nothing at top of google yet. No , I'm already wrong, apparently Haaretz had it in April.

    • Umpteen tries - same message. :(

    • Is anyone else unable to access the page of Tareq at his cousin's grave? Everytime i try, 'internet explorer has encountered a problem and has to close'!

  • Child's beating in Jerusalem brings unprecedented coverage of Palestinian experience to U.S.
    • So sickening. I hate hearing their spox on bbcR4 World at One (in this case LtCol Peter Lerner) spouting the hasbara rocket meme barely challenged by the interviewers. At least in his case it was countered by Osama Hamdan who provided the info of the bombardment of the Strip by Israel over the last 3 weeks and the levels of damage they'd caused.

  • Family of Tarek Abu Khdeir calls for his immediate release after brutal beating and arbitrary arrest
    • And this from Yahoo via Reuters:

      "State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki confirmed that the teen, Tariq Khdeir, was being held by Israeli authorities in Jerusalem and said a consular officer visited him on Saturday.

      "We are profoundly troubled by reports that he was severely beaten while in police custody and strongly condemn any excessive use of force. We are calling for a speedy, transparent and credible investigation and full accountability for any excessive use of force," Psaki said."

      link to

  • 'Survival and well-being of the Jewish state' is a national security interest of U.S., Indyk says
    • @hophmi
      ha bloody ha!
      Israel is & always has been terrified of genuine democracy in its neighboring states!

  • Murdered teen laid to rest, as tensions flare in Shufat
    • @jon s
      BFD. Your own country is 100% responsible as it is the SOLE cause for creating the situation.
      Meanwhile, here we've had the 'Tour de France' in town - they finished here. The son of a local woman fell off his bike yards (oops no - we're French today, that should be metres!) from the finish, but all I could see on a screen from near the back of the crowd was mere snatches because of all the heads and bodies in front. Our local bird of prey put in an appearance right then too - a gorgeous red kite who circled the cenotaph several times then when the race finished, flapped off back to the nearby woods (very close to town). Oh, and I found out that even police bicycles have their own sirens.

  • Please, pray for Palestine
    • @MY1 aka SpudSquad
      "hundreds of events in Israel" really? Or are they events in occupied Palestine? Where your scummy murderous compatriots are the cause and the perpetrators of the violence for nearly half a century! It's about time you lot got back behind your *officially declared* borders and out of territory that's not yours.

    • Can't do much of that from here in England, but a thought - can our US commenters lobby the FBI to open a case as they claim to have done when the Fraenkel boy disappeared? That could increase the pressure. We don't even know if the Israeli/US lad spent any time in the US at all!

    • I saw this, and I was fuming. I wanted to hug that kid, and I wished for a pair of hob-nailed boots to kick in the faces of his abusers. Then the 10pm news came on the radio and the P/I coverage was so biased it outraged me - so much so that I immediately went to their complaints and fired off at them. They omitted anything about the clearly seen faces of the perpetrators, about the car, or the known number plates, and had on some talking head saying it was only "50/50" that it could be Israeli perpetrators! And that's only a small part of the outrageously biased piece. My blood is at boiling point, so rant off.

  • After repeated calls for vengeance, Netanyahu urges Israelis to be 'cool-headed' and seek 'justice'
    • He's ramping up war fever, another assault on Gaza.
      Daniel Rich says troops are massing on Gaza's borders.
      Jon s says they'll be going in in 24hrs.
      Gen Giora Ayelund(?sp), speaking to bbcR4 saidthey'd likely go in within two days, with "much more massive actions" including a ground invasion.

  • Liberal Zionists' denial of Israeli racism heightens danger to 'everyone living in this land' -- Blumenthal
  • The Aftermath: Home demolitions and dead Palestinian teen follow Netanyahu call for revenge
  • Change the narrative from 'cycle of violence' to occupation, JVP says
    • Hoppy, if anyone was trying to 'out' your identity, they would drop your whole name into a comment. Not just tease you with a forename or initial. That's just letting you know we know it. Woody's just getting back at you for calling him 'Woodpecker' (and remembering how you stomped your feet when James North did the same).

    • @ Woody
      Mr B_____ doesn't like being referred to by his forename.

  • Turning blood into cement: Reflections on nationalist violence in wake of suspected revenge killing of Palestinian teen
    • I presume you are hearing this through the wider family. Sadly in Israel there is nothing one could call 'justice'. There is injustice for your family and so many others simply for not being the preferred ethnic religious background, and impunity for others because they *are* the preferred ethnic religious background. I listened to Mickey Rosenfeld, the police spokesman, blatantly trying to imply it might be some kind of 'honor' crime - and with such shame, because he is so obviously from an English background himself.
      I sincerely hope his parents won't sign this statement as it would be a betrayal of their son in death to do so. His burial can wait a little longer so they aren't forced to live with that shame as well as the awful grief themselves. It seems the world (by which I mean its elected and appointed officials) is watching the way this crime is pursued somewhat closer than they have many others - possibly as a result of the gross failure despite the evidence after the Nakba day murders.

  • Israeli army spokesperson responds to Mondo criticism
    • Steve Bell's cartoon at the bottom of the page portrays the reality. The scales of justice balanced over a chickenwire fence, three Israeli flag draped coffins on one scale, sunk to the ground, while the other scale, over the fence, is piled high with Palestinian flag draped coffins high in the air.

    • What I've heard on the radio is that the lad left the house to go to early morning prayers and was promptly grabbed and bundled into a waiting Israeli car - and all caught on the family's security cameras. I guess they'll be stolen or smashed within days, and no-one arrested for his murder. The report did emphasize that Bibi called the attack "despicable".

  • Israel needs no proof to kill Palestinians for teens' death, Israeli colonel says
    • The writers of fiction are as determined to make a pig's ear out of the evidence in this case as they were in the Nakba day killings. When listening to bbcR4's World at One the report stated that the abduction was caught on the family's security cameras and showed the lad being bundled into a waiting ISraeli car! I guess those cameras and that evidence won't last long. GoI gotta protect its 'own' from repercussions. There must be impunity for zionists!

    • Could be the one linked to in this EI blog by Abunimah:

      link to

      "Glorying in blood and death

      Written in blood: an image posted to Facebook by an Israeli soldier demands “revenge.” The administrator of the popular group, which has more than 70,000 “Likes,” shared a photo of the bloodied body of Yousef Abu Zagha with the caption, “This is the terrorist killed last night in Jenin.”

      Many of the members of the Facebook group identify as active members of the Israeli military."

      The link comes up as

      link to

  • Missing Israeli teens found dead near Hebron; Netanyahu: 'Hamas is responsible and Hamas will pay'
    • Another flipped context - just heard an FBI honcho on the radio saying they opened an investigation on the kidnapping when it happened, because y'know, dual national, etc. So where did the investigation into the murder of Furkan Dogan in the flotilla assault go? Oh, that's right - he didn't count, not the right kind of dual national!

    • Hello Jon66.
      It's not 'whataboutery' to compare and contrast the reactions of the 'goI to the murder by its uniformed personnel of Palestinian boys (denial, punish the owners of security cameras, and steal as many of such Palestinian owned cameras as they can - link to ) as to the reaction of same to the disappearance of the Israeli boys in occupied Palestine. It's a case of impunity for Israeli perpetrators of violence - in uniform or not - versus collective punishment for all Palestinians.

    • Odd how when Israel murders Palestinians, no Israeli can be found responsible, but when Israelis are the murder victims, *all* Palestinians are somehow responsible, tho some moreso than others.
      When considering the Israeli response over the time since the disappearance, and the number of deaths for which they are responsible, I find the goi response to the discovery of the bodies to be obscene. There is still zero evidence presented to anyone, as opposed to the evidence available in the Nakba Day murders, in which the only action has been persecution of the owners of security cameras!

  • Reporters talk about Sykes-Picot of 1916 (and ignore the Balfour Declaration of 1917)
    • Well whaddya know - the world's Nuttiest PM has just been quoted on the bbc World Service proclaiming that an independent Kurdistan would be such a good thang! And that Israel has to help Jordan repel ISIS.

  • What's your politically-correct World Cup bracket?
    • @DaBakr
      You may scoff at the term and claim it belongs to the left, but the smoothest practitioner of "political correctness" I ever knew was (and still is) on the furthest right in British politics (was elected an MEP for the BNP alongside Nick Griffin in the last round of Euro elections, so that's over now). For decades he was a lecturer at our local college - in (hah!) politics, law, business studies and no matter how hard people tried (inc yrs truly) was impossible to budge. He never, ever brought up his politics in the educational forum, to the point that ethnic minority students would speak up for him in meetings. He has cleaved to his racist views since earliest childhood, and since he must be around 70 now, that's a helluvan ingrained foulness.

  • 'About 60,000 Americans were murdered' by Palestinians in Israel, says Shmuley Boteach
    • So in over 20 years (since Oslo) of continuous belligerent occupation of another people's country, the loss of life to (presumably) dual passport holders (US/Israel) is the grand total of 53 - equivalent to far less than 0.001% of Israel's population. But Shmuley's mathematical genius of 60,000 comes out at a little less than 0.02% of the US population. Perhaps the amendment to the article means that somewhere around 1400 Israelis (whether or not dual or sole passport holders) have been killed over the past 20 years, rather than dual nationals? But heck, in the last 13yrs and 9 months, a conservative figure of at least 6,876 Palestinians have been killed.

      link to

  • In life and death, some are more equal than others at the 'NYT'
    • Toadi Rudoren is working for the zionist cause. After all, she's the right ethno-religious group and employed for exactly that purpose. Only the most minor criticisms will be allowed to sneak into the very occasional piece.

  • Why I pull against the U.S. in the World Cup
    • It suggests that if I gave a hoot I should root for either Korea or Colombia!
      Heck, I haven't even decided who to pull for when the Tour de ahem, Yorkshire whizzes thru town in a couple of weeks! The whole town is going to be on lockdown for that - bright yellow notices of road closures and parking suspension virtually everywhere.

  • Conflicted coverage shows: 'NYT' is now disputed territory
    • link to

      "(Jerusalem) – Israeli security forces ordered a Palestinian man to take down security cameras that captured the shooting deaths of two Palestinian boys in May, Human Rights Watch and Defense for Children International – Palestine said today. Footage recorded by cameras on the man’s building prompted an international outcry over the killings.

      Israeli military officers berated Fakher Zayed, 47, for sharing the security videos with human rights groups, claimed he had lied and fabricated evidence, and threatened to bring unspecified legal actions against him if he did not remove the security cameras, Zayed told Human Rights Watch and DCI-Palestine. A soldier threatened to “unleash dogs on my children,” he said."


      "Zayed and another witness who asked not to be identified out of fear for his security told Human Rights Watch and DCI-Palestine that at around 4:20 p.m. on June 17, four Israeli military vehicles with about two dozen soldiers came to Zayed’s carpentry shop, on the ground floor of his building in the West Bank Palestinian town of Beitunia, while he was out delivering wood to a customer. According to the other witness, an officer who identified himself as “Sabri” said that “if [Zayed] is not here in five minutes we are going to burn this carpentry shop down,” and ordered one of Zayed’s employees to call him. When Zayed arrived, Israeli forces confiscated his identification document, told him and his employees that he was not being arrested but taken for questioning, and drove him to the nearby Ofer military base.

      Zayed said:

      At Ofer I was taken into a room that had several captains. They told me that the video I gave to the press was fabricated, that everything I said and all my testimonies are a lie, that this is a serious violation of the law, and that I made the IDF look bad and caused a lot of problems. They told me the cameras need to be brought down within 24 hours. They were all speaking, and I had no chance to respond. There were so many threats. They said it as though they were going to turn the law against me. One of the captains told me: “We will crush you, according to the law.” There were many threats against my family. They told me that I was up against a very powerful force, and I am very small. One of them said, “We will squish you like a bug, you are nothing.” There were no direct violent threats, except when I left that room, one of the soldiers told me that they will unleash dogs on my children.

      At 5:45 p.m., Israeli forces drove Zayed back to his building, he said."

      If the bu**ers can destroy the possibility of their crimes being recorded, then they have deniability and can pretend innocence.

  • Israeli soldiers have killed 3 Palestinians in week since teens went missing
    • A little bit of good news to add to the list:

      Adam and Johar are FREE!

      "Jubilant crowds welcomed Adam and Johar home in Abu Dis after their release from prison on 17 June 2014 after almost three months of incarceration (reference posts 30 April and 15 February). When it’s available further information will be put on the website of the Camden Abu Dis Friendship Association: link to "

      link to

  • In 'turning-point' vote, Presbyterians divest from occupation-linked corporations
  • What evidence is there that teens were abducted?
    • @Walid (& just & co)
      Here's perhaps the only bit of *good* news this week - Adam and Johar are FREE - they were released on June 17!

      link to

      "Adam and Johar released
      Posted on June 18, 2014 by admin-redcard in Uncategorized // 0 Comments

      Jubilant crowds welcomed Adam and Johar home in Abu Dis after their release from prison on 17 June 2014 after almost three months of incarceration (reference posts 30 April and 15 February). When it’s available further information will be put on the website of the Camden Abu Dis Friendship Association: link to "

  • I’m a Lutheran member of a Jewish organization, and I support Presbyterian divestment
    • Israel is wholly based on dubious mythology and outright lies.

      link to

    • Totally OT, I just heard Gerry Goffin died! Awww.
      His younger daughter (then 4) was a flower girl at my sister's wedding about 25 years ago.

    • I read an article which appalled me - "Israel elected to leadership of UN committee on [wait for it....] "Decolonization"."

      link to

      "Just when it appeared that the United Nations could not be more ineffective in protecting Palestinian rights and holding Israel accountable for violating them, here comes the news that Israel has been elected as vice-chair of the UN Special Commitee on Decolonization – which deals among other things with matters related to Palestinian refugees.

      According to UN minutes, the representative of Israel, the world’s last settler-colonial power, received 74 votes for the post, despite strong opposition from the Arab Group of UN member states."

      Twilight zone.

  • How Israel is exploiting the reported kidnapping to weaken Palestinian reconciliation
    • From your link - the shop owner whose security cameras captured the murders:

      "Zayed said:

      At Ofer I was taken into a room that had several captains. They told me that the video I gave to the press was fabricated, that everything I said and all my testimonies are a lie, that this is a serious violation of the law, and that I made the IDF look bad and caused a lot of problems. They told me the cameras need to be brought down within 24 hours. They were all speaking, and I had no chance to respond. There were so many threats. They said it as though they were going to turn the law against me. One of the captains told me: “We will crush you, according to the law.” There were many threats against my family. They told me that I was up against a very powerful force, and I am very small. One of them said, “We will squish you like a bug, you are nothing.” There were no direct violent threats, except when I left that room, one of the soldiers told me that they will unleash dogs on my children.

      At 5:45 p.m., Israeli forces drove Zayed back to his building, he said."

      And theft of all the other security cameras and equipment:

      "Israeli forces had visited Zayed previously and confiscated the DVR equipment that records footage from Zayed’s security cameras as well as his computer. Soldiers and an officer first came to Zayed’s building on May 22, the same day CNN published its own video footage showing one of the Israeli border police firing toward the location where Nawareh was killed, and seconds later, a group of Palestinians carrying him towards an ambulance.

      The officer commanding the Israeli forces who confiscated the recording material refused Zayed’s request to give him a receipt. The Israeli commander “Sabri” and border police returned to Zayed’s home at 8 a.m. on June 13 and asked again for the DVR equipment. “I said they’d already taken it, so they went around the entire neighborhood, the whole street, and took all the neighbors’ recording equipment too. They left nothing. I can’t record anything and neither can the others,” Zayed told Human Rights Watch.

      Taken together, the military’s confiscation of equipment weeks after the killing and its refusal to provide receipts to owners, Israeli officials’ repeated public claims that video footage was doctored without providing any evidence, and military investigators’ alleged remarks while berating Zayed for recording the shootings, raise concerns that the military is not conducting a good faith investigation into the killings."

  • The Disneyfication of the Old City
    • @pjdude
      iirc, there was a Jewish kingdom in what's now Yemen, predating the Khazarians, which lasted a couple of hundred years.

  • Israeli army enacts curfew near Nablus and raids eight major West Bank cities
    • Beyond reading that the Palestinians were kept away from this burnt out car once it was found, we have heard diddly-squat about it. How often are burnt out cars with Israeli number plates left lying around the West Bank? What forensics have been/are being carried out? Who was its owner, and has he been rigorously questioned?
      We know damn well that an element among the settler population uses their cars as weapons against the Palestinians. We've read the stories of men, women, children and even donkeys being targeted. Wouldn't a panicked settler be capable of making the 'aborted' phone call after the act, to cause others in authority to think the youths had been kidnapped rather than killed by himself? He would probably know the Israeli police are about as sharp as a chocolate button. And then it all plays into the hands of a Nutter who craves to punish the Palestinians for the humiliation of the recent 'piece' process.

  • Human rights orgs condemn collective punishment of Palestinians in response to disappearance of three Israeli settlers
    • Nobody's considering the burnt out car with Israeli number-plates.

      What if some half-drunk settler thought he'd have himself some Palestinian road-kill, only to find out he'd killed his own kind once he ploughed thru them? So instead of facing up to his crimes, because settlers just don't, he puts their bodies in his car and takes them somewhere where he can dig a shallow grave and dump them. Then he takes his car far away again, pours fuel over it and torches it to destroy the evidence. Then he makes his way home, and claims the car was stolen. The end, except by now the Israelis know all this anyway but prefer to play out this anti-Palestinian exercise until they find the bodies and some poor Palestinian sap on whom to lay 'official' blame.

  • 'Presbyterians please divest!' Palestinian artists urge in paintings on wall
    • I thought it was just an addition! I haven't read any more up to date on the g4s issue, maybe there is more news to come? Both pieces are over a week old now.

    • EI nabbed the story from the Financial Times, on June 6:

      "G4S has confirmed that it will end all its Israeli prison contracts within the next three years after an annual general meeting that was severely disrupted by human rights protesters. Asked by angry protesters whether G4S would withdraw from the Palestinian territories as reported by the Financial Times last year, Ashley Almanza, chief executive, confirmed “no change to that position.”

      “We expect them to expire and we don’t expect to renew them,” he said. These include contracts to provide security and screening equipment at military checkpoints, the controversial Ofer prison and a police station in the West Bank, all of which are expected to expire next year.

      But Mr Almanza said for the first time that the move would also include prison service contracts all over Israel."

      So they're just going to let their contracts lapse, and not renew them.
      link to

      However, in order to attempt to ensure they don't come under further fire, they have conducted an "independent review", headed by a pro-Israel prof, to prove they are not complicit in war crimes etc:

      "The report, “Human Rights Review of G4S Israel: Human Rights Report and Legal Opinion,” is co-authored by two academics who both have a strong and visible pro-Israel stance.

      Guglielmo Verdirame, who wrote the legal section of the report, is professor of international law at King’s College, London.

      In November 2012, as Israel was coming to the end of its eight day assault on Gaza, Verdirame wrote an article for BBC Online in which he defends Israel’s vicious, sustained attack on a refugee population in legal terms."


      link to

  • Kidnapped
    • They can't have been Arabic speaking Taxi - going by the attempted emergency call that was dismissed by Israeli police as a 'crank call'. If Israeli police had heard Arabic in the background when the call was aborted, they'd have 100% taken it seriously.

  • Israeli army seals Hebron, saying Hamas is responsible for abducted teens
    • Yesterday in the House of Lords, Baroness Tonge asked about recognition of the State of Palestine, and the issue of the 'kidnap' came up:

      "Lord Pannick (CB): My Lords, does the Minister agree that progress towards a peace settlement would be enhanced if Hamas were able to secure the release of the three Israeli teenagers who were kidnapped in the West Bank last weekend? Will the Government do all they can to seek to secure that objective?

      Baroness Warsi: The Government have strongly condemned the abduction of the three Israeli youths in the West Bank. We are deeply concerned about the escalation of violence on the ground, and for the sake of both Israelis and Palestinians I hope that further escalation can be avoided. We are still trying to find details of what is happening on the ground, but of course it has led to escalation, including, tragically, the death of a Palestinian child.

      Lord Winston (Lab): My Lords, given the instability, conflict and violence in the countries that surround Israel, is it not understandable that the Israeli Government are deeply concerned about a Government who might be led by Hamas and who are committed to the destruction of Israel?

      Baroness Warsi: My Lords, we welcome the new technocratic Government, who are made up mainly of people who are not affiliated to political organisations. We are heartened by the fact that the quartet principles have been endorsed by the new technocratic Government.

      Baroness Falkner of Margravine (LD): My Lords, does my noble friend recall that over the last two years she has stood at the Dispatch Box and told the House on many occasions—I think mainly during 2013—that this year was the last chance saloon for achieving a peace process in the Middle East? Given where we find ourselves, what is the United Kingdom Government’s position on achieving a peace process now that the Americans have more or less said that there is nowhere further to go? Will the Government consider replacing the current system of the Middle East quartet envoy and so on with a fresh impetus and a completely new look at whether a two-state solution is indeed the right answer?"

      (I'm so disappointed in Robert Winston, he's such a nice guy otherwise)

      "Lord Wright of Richmond (CB): My Lords, does the noble Baroness accept that there is virtual unanimity, and not only in this House, on the urgent need for a two-state solution to the Palestinian problem? Does she accept that the recent reconciliation agreement between Fatah and Hamas offers the Israelis a unique opportunity to work genuinely towards a two-state solution? On the point raised by the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, if this story is true it is horrendous, but is the Minister aware that similar outrages are being committed daily by the Israeli Defence Forces and by the settlers themselves? This is the time to recognise Palestine as a state.

      Baroness Warsi: Of course, ultimately peace will be achieved only if there is a unified authority in the Palestinian territories to which we can speak—a unified organisation that represents both Gaza and the West Bank—as long as it abides by the quartet principles. I can stand at this Dispatch Box and give a list of things that the Israelis are alleged to have done and a list of things that the Palestinians are alleged to have done, but I am not sure whether that blame game is going to take us any further. What I am clear about is that a Palestinian life and an Israeli life are equally important. It is therefore right that what we do respects the sanctity of life, and the basic human rights that people require whether they are Israeli or Palestinian.

      Lord Bach (Lab): My Lords, is it Her Majesty’s Government’s intention to work with the new Palestinian unity Government? Presuming that it is, could the House be told what specific steps our Government are taking in that regard?

      Baroness Warsi: As I said earlier, we have recognised the technocratic Government; we feel that they provide an opportunity to take matters further. We give great credit to President Abbas, who has made sure that the technocratic Government have been set up in a way that is acceptable to the international community and are an organisation of government that we can work with. With regard to the UK’s approach, the noble Lord will of course be aware that we have been one of the biggest supporters of ensuring that a future Palestinian state is viable, not only through the work that we have been doing in establishing and supporting institutions but in relation to the humanitarian work on the ground with both financial support and expertise. We will continue to do that, because we are firmly committed to ensuring that there is a viable Palestinian state when that moment arises.

      Lord Dykes (LD): My Lords, does my noble friend agree that the biggest tragedy of all would be if these two countries did not come together and shake hands, similar to South Africa? Once that happens, they can work together to create a Near East common market, and peace will prevail for everyone.

      Baroness Warsi: I agree with my noble friend as a Foreign Office Minister but also on a personal level. As someone who has lived through this dispute for most of her life—it has formed so much of my own identity as I have grown up—there is nothing I would like more than to be in a Government who finally managed to resolve this matter."

      link to

  • Evolution of the Bibi-Barack relationship
  • Israeli leader justifies force-feeding bill by pointing to Guantanamo Bay
    • Lawyers for Palestinian Human Rights has sent yet another letter to the Foreign Secretary, this one "urgent":

      "As lawyers committed to the protection and promotion of Palestinian human rights, LPHR is deeply concerned at reports that the Israeli government is fast-tracking proposed legislation which would permit the force-feeding of Palestinian administrative detainees exercising a hunger-strike protest1. We consider the practices allowed by the proposed legislation would amount to a clear violation of the international law prohibition on inhuman or degrading treatment. We subsequently request that the British government make strong and urgent representations to the Israeli government to halt passage of this manifestly dangerous bill."

      And this about "administrative detention", which the letter explains is under "Military Order 1226":

      "Although administrative detention is permitted under international human rights law and international humanitarian law, it can only be used if it is necessary for reasons of security in exceptional cases of emergency, when there is no other possibility to prevent the danger posed by the detainee. International law sets a very high threshold for the use of administrative detention, in recognition that it is an extreme measure that violates the basic right to liberty and fundamental due process rights.
      Israeli authorities do not provide administrative detainees and their lawyers with meaningful information on the reasons for their detention, and are not given an opportunity to refute the suspicions against them. The Israeli human rights organisation, B'Tselem, has noted that the "systematic and extensive reliance on classified information constitutes one of the most problematic aspects of administrative detention and contradicts the fundamental principle of
      due process." Furthermore, many Palestinian detainees are held inside the State of Israel in flagrant breach of international law, which prohibits the transfer of detainees outside of occupied territory. The movement restrictions imposed on Palestinian residents from the Occupied Palestinian Territory have severely harmed the right of detainees to family visitation and to meet with their lawyers."

      link to

  • Michael Oren's misuse of the Holocaust
    • @zhaoumafan
      "Arabs didnt show up in the Levant and Palestine until relatively recently"

      A few did 1400 years ago. A large proportion of the rest of the indigenous people (Jewish, Christian and whatever else was around) adopted the new religion they brought, and the new language that went with it.

  • Tell FIFA to dump Israel now, urges international campaign
    • "1.9) On 23/10/2012, Israeli Intelligence Forces, accompanied by Israeli Border Guard Forces, besieged the Islami Silwan club in east Jerusalem and gave them an order to close the club, under threat that any members who participate in sport activities will be arrested. The club had to withdraw from the 3rd class league after this order. It’s worth mentioning that, in March, 20013, the ban was renewed for another year.

      1.10) On 26/10/2012, player Imad Abbassi, who plays for Nadi Al-Muwathafin Club, was arrested by Israeli police and placed under house arrest, after being subjected to 6 successive arrests. It’s worth mentioning that the abovementioned player used to play for Nadi Silwan, and had transferred to Al-Muwathafin club after the Israeli Occupation forces shut his former club.

      1.11) On 16/12/2012, and in the old city of Jerusalem, an employee of Al-Muwathafin Club, Mr. Nehad Sugayyar, was attacked by a group of Orthodox Israelis, under the eyes of Israeli police who –needless to say- refrained from intervening. He suffered several burns and bruises from said attack.

      1.12) Ms. Mona Barbar, an employee in the Palestinian Higher Council of Youth & Sport, was arrested by the Israeli Authorities in 1/3/2013 with other people. Her charge was “organizing sport activities in east Jerusalem”."

      "3.1)3. Beit Ummar Stadium/Hebron: The Israeli side argued that the proposed stadium poses a threat on Israeli security, since it borders road #60, and in the event that 10.000 spectators were present, there was a chance they might decide to throw stones on the passing Israeli cars. They also said that such a number of spectators would cause a traffic jam in the junction and the main road. The Palestinian side proposed solutions to said security concerns, saying that the PNA will take responsibility whenever a game is staged, and will provide security forces in numbers enough to prevent any problems before they occur, that if they do. And, as a further precaution, a street will be paved by the Municipality from the northwestern side, which will be the main entrance to the stadium. No entrance will be made on the side of road #60, and no cars will be allowed to park on that side. Furthermore, the Palestinian side said it is possible to build a fenced wall on the side of road #60. The Israeli side stuck to their statements and asked that the Palestinian side choose another piece of land. Consequently, the PFA decided to move the GP from Beit Ummar to Burin, which is located in zone “A”.

      3.1)4. Burin: Following the problem in Beit Ummar, the PFA selected the site of Burin (near the city of Nablus) which is within an area allotted to a school clearly located in zone “A”, all the documents requested by the Israeli side were given to them. After a few days, an Israeli force stormed the location and blocked the preparatory works."

      link to

      rcir had a link to the above site, but the main page was in French. The list of interferences is like one of Kates's lists.

  • Yeah, Mick Jagger speaks Hebrew
  • New testimonies from Palestinian children tortured by Israeli authorities
  • Human rights groups accuse NBC of deceit about 'DIG' filming locations in occupied East Jerusalem
    • No, you can't be ancient until you've been enjoying the freebie for at least 25 years! And hopefully longer. In good health!

    • They have an Israeli, Raffi Berg, in charge of the Middle East desk.
      They have a zionist leader, in James Harding.

      As of April this year (iirc), the World Service funding no longer comes separately, from government, but out of the bbc licence fee - and ME seems to have been turned over to Berg's preferred biased editors.

      This is one of several reasons i refuse to use a tv, and definitely won't be paying for their damn licence! It's appalling that some fraction of less than half a percent of our population can dictate bbc positioning, leading to total mininformation rather than honest news appearing.

  • BDS lays the basis for a true peace process
    • And from their (long) blog:

      "Today’s decision by the UK National Contact Point (UK NCP) for the OECD Guidelines for Multinational Enterprises (OECD Guidelines) to accept in their Initial Assessment that issues raised in LPHR’s complaint regarding the activities of G4S PLC in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT) are substantiated and require further examination, is both ground-breaking and significant.

      Ground-breaking because it marks the first time that the implementation mechanism for the OECD Guidelines has been successfully utilised to this stage in the procedure regarding the relationship between activities of a corporation and adverse human rights impacts against Palestinians in Israel and the OPT.

      And significant because of its potential to bring positive and effective change to Palestinians adversely affected by serious, continuing and pervasive international law and human rights violations."

      link to

    • From Lawyers for Palestinian Human Rights (which is based in Mike Mansfields chambers):

      "London, 2 June 2014 –
      Security firm G4S are to be investigated after a UK Government trade body found that human rights complaints made in relation to the activities of the firm and their subsidiaries in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory need further examination.
      The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) provide guidelines for multinational enterprises for responsible business conduct which governments encourage companies to observe wherever they operate.
      Following a complaint by the legal charity Lawyers for Palestinian Human Rights (LPHR), represented by lawyers Leigh Day, that, contrary to the OECD Guidelines, G4S PLC has breached the obligation to respect human rights of those affected by their activities, the OECD UK National Contact Point (UK NCP) (within the Department of Business, Innovation and Skills) has today accepted in an Initial Assessment that issues raised in the complaint are substantiated and require further examination."

      link to

  • Soldiers detaining Palestinian schoolgirls for picking cherries is reminiscent of Germany in 30s -- Misgav
    • Despite his bemoaning, Misgav cannot bring himself to admit that settlers live on and farm stolen property:
      "owner of the estate". I thought that particular land was known to be stolen even under Israeli law (let alone under international law). He is writing about a state supported thief calling out his/her state supported thugs on little kids. That is very nazi-esque, mid-30s ish.

  • Gates Foundation begins to divest from occupation profiteer G4S
    • Nearly so - but I think the huge corporations are more akin to the Dukedoms of yore. The banksters may be Earldoms, the celebs mere Knights and Barons or those are the minions of the Dukes and Earls. So maybe Squire Jagger? Dame Oprah? Then there's the rest of us - yeomen and serfs.

    • I love the 'Apartheid Adventures' brand!
      Can I say it's a brilliant Mast'Ed?

      And I note the Twiddler-in-Chief must be back from his/her hollies - Recent Comments is finally fixed!

  • Some important details: Ben Ehrenreich on the Nakba Day shootings
    • Richard Silverstein's research differs - if the 'unauthorized' soldier was using his own firearm, it's more likely that it would have live ammo, rather than rubber coated less lethal crap:

      "I can now report, based on information supplied to me by a highly-placed Israeli source, that the murderer served in none other than the IDF spokesperson’s unit (Dover Tzahal). Specifically, he served in the video unit which films all Border Police and IDF operations at protests. The unit exists to surveill Palestinian demonstrations and pick out ringleaders that can be used for intelligence purposes. However, the unit inadvertently films atrocities such as this as well.


      The IDF has the video from the incident but naturally has not released it because it would rebut its false claims about what happened. My source was told the spokesperson’s office refuses to release it “for obvious reasons.” There is also an important note about how the soldier came to fire a weapon. Such soldiers, despite their serving in a non-combat role are armed. It’s highly likely the weapon shown being taken away from the shooter on the CNN video is his weapon. This would also explain why the majority of the ammunition used during the protest was rubber bullets, but live ammunition killed the boys. The killer’s weapon undoubtedly had live ammo and not rubber bullets. For Hebrew speakers, Eishton published a blog post today proving that live ammunition was fired at the protest. The IDF has consistently denied there was any live fire, which clearly is a lie. There may’ve been no live fire from the Border Police, but there was from the only soldier there who shouldn’t have been firing at all, let alone live ammunition."

      link to

      I guess conflicting stories is now the name of the game in zio-land. It enables the guilty to remain free.

  • Public debate on Zionism sets a crucial precedent
    • Of course you didn't get it right SadZach. "Jewish" is a label used for all sorts of exclusionary purposes. "Arab" is a fairly inclusive term, which does not preclude racial/religious/etc differences. Your statement:

      "Does anyone sincerely believe that a country can be Arab and democratic at the same time? The idea is preposterous."

      Ends with a grossly racist sentence. Geddit now?

  • Responding to the (de)humanization of Palestinians (Updated)
    • Thank you for venturing into the MW comments.
      I read this article yesterday (tho hadn't thus far commented) and overnight heard this:
      link to

      "I Said Sorry to My Daughter's Killer
      South Africans Ginn Fourie and Letlapa Mphahlele tell us why they are promoting peace and reconciliation, although Letlapa ordered the attack in which Ginn's daughter died. They tell their story in a new documentary, Beyond Forgiving."

      If it's available across the pond, it is well worth a listen. It always amazes me that so many people (tho by no means a majority) who have suffered dreadfully are able to forgive and move forward - in the I/P context, Nurit Peled Elhanan obviously comes to mind.

  • Ted Cruz seems to believe the road to Pennsylvania Avenue runs through Jerusalem
  • Boteach forges close ties with Rwanda leader linked to ethnic slaughter
    • Kagame a hero for being "the only man alive to have stopped a genocide"?
      What about the people who *prevented* the genocide of Ugandan Asians by Idi Amin? Even tho' it was by providing refuge far from their home country.

  • SodaStream stock loses fizz amid 'boycott fears'
  • Netanyahu scoffs at Obama's 2009 summons and 'threat'-- to stop all settlements
    • @mzrt
      Er, how do the Palestinians have the "power to change Israel’s internal politics"? By far the majority of them (WB, Gaza, EJ) have no representation in the Knesset and no vote in Israeli elections and are not citizens - yet, by your own words, you are obviously assuming the extension of Israeli sovereignty over the entirety of former Mandate Palestine, by referring to "internal politics" when the topic of the post is Nutty's reaction to a bar on settlement building in Palestine - not Israel.

  • 500 surveillance cameras to be mounted in occupied East Jerusalem
    • "Rajoub, who is also head of the Palestine Olympic Committee, said: “Since the Mauritius Congress when Blatter formed the Task Force we tried to change.
      “So far the Israelis are not co-operating. I hope Blatter and all those who have good intentions can still solve the problem before the Congress otherwise I am going for sanctions against the Israelis.
      “They cannot keep behaving like the neighborhood bully, violating all the statutes of FIFA and the Olympic charter and rejecting any good intention either from UEFA, FIFA, the AFC, Palestinian FA or any other interested third party,” added Rajoub."

      link to


      "While Rajoub did not specify the sanctions that could be taken against Israel, he explained why he felt they were necessary.
      “There have been two disastrous events. Last week our national team was in Qatar in camp preparing for the Asian Cup and when they came back the Israelis arrested one of the players and now he is in jail with no reason,” he said.
      “I am sure they will release him in a week or two so why arrest him in the first place? “The other event was the famous story that they shot and injured two athletes who had to go to Jordan for treatment for three months. Then they came back and arrested them,” Rajoub added."

      And just as important:

      "Rajoub is also upset the Israelis recently sent a letter to Blatter, which said: “We are ready to develop sport in Palestine but this should be done through our channels.”
      It was the final straw for Rajoub who said: “That implies we were affiliated to Israel.
      “It means they are not recognizing the very existence of Palestinian sporting entity. This is the substance of the problem and for us I don’t think anything will happen.

  • Welcome to Bethlehem, Pope Francis -- now shut down the checkpoint for 3 days
  • Israel tries to blame killings on Palestinians as int'l outrage builds
    • How "anti-semitic" does Nadeem's dad sound?:

      "Sitting at his home in a well-to-do neighbourhood of Ramallah on the West Bank, Nawara, 42, speculates that the soldier who shot his son might not be "able to sleep or comprehend what he has done".

      He adds that, like his own son, the soldier who killed him was probably a boy himself, perhaps not much more than 19. "I [want to] believe that he wanted to pay his respects and offer his condolences and ask forgiveness for what he'd done," he says.

      Nawara suggests that he could forgive this other boy because the true culprit is the officer who gave the order for Nadeem to be killed, who "should have known better"."

      link to

  • Pope watch: Incendiary flyer passed out in Jerusalem says Francis's visit is against Jewish law
  • CNN airs evidence Israelis used live bullets on Palestinian protesters
    • I think the cameraman was Karim Khadr (sp?).
      I expect the Israeli response to his filming of these premeditated murders will be to arrest him while they think up appropriate charges to disappear him for months on end.

  • New video shows Palestinian youths killed by Israeli army on Nakba Day posed no threat to soldiers
    • SadZach sez:

      "I see no Israeli soldiers in the video or in any of the pictures."

      Yet we know from the details given, and from widely available reportage including photos and videos, that the area was swarming with heavily armed Israeli forces to 'control' the Nakba Day demonstration. We know that the demonstrators were angry youth armed with no more than stones, maybe a bit of petrol to set fire to a few old tyres. Certainly no sophisticated weaponry.

      But SadZach has the gall to insist that just because we cannot see 'soldiers' in these videos and a few other pictures, that we should suddenly disbelieve Israeli spox themselves who accepted responsibility for the murders, tho' they lied about the circumstances.

    • link to

      "The footage was recorded on the CCTV of businessman Fakher Zayed, who also witnessed the deaths from the balcony above his office and accused soldiers of shooting to kill."

      Does eyewitness testimony, watched from his balcony, count?:

      ""There were two groups of soldiers that day. There were soldiers under a vine outside a house to the right of the main road. But the boys were safe from them while they were in front of my office, because the soldiers couldn't see them.

      "There were other soldiers and vehicles in the parking lot 250 metres away from where the boys were killed, but the boys had pulled back at that point and were no threat to the soldiers.

      "I think there were four or five of them in front of my building. I saw the first guy who was killed walking, but he had no stones. He was crossing the road diagonally when he was shot.

      "I heard four shots of live fire in total. You can tell by the sound," he said. "In the past, when live fire has been used here they have shot at the legs. This time they were shot in the chest."

    • Snipers, Zach. Snipers conceal themselves. In this case, it serves their criminal actions as they will probably be celebrated by their fellow criminals in the IOF.

  • Commencement meltdown-- students are wisely rejecting elite authority
    • I know there's many public figures at debates, but I didn't recall anything as formal as a 'Commencement Speech' from my own time, nor heard of them elsewhere in the UK.

    • Whoopeee! Mooser's back!
      I couldn't help thinking of you a couple months ago, when my niece got her motorbike....

      As far as I know, I don't think UK universities do 'Commencement Speeches', so she won't be starting off with a protest. Bound to follow tho', the nose-ring's already there.

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