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  • Palestinian youth say the talks with Israel are futile
    • Thank you Hostage.

    • Has the ICC ever got as far as opening an international tribunal to look into the complaints from Palestine? I can only think of the Russell Tribunal (which Dugard has also worked with), but that's an independent entity afaik.

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      "The International Criminal Court (ICC) has said an international tribunal is authorised to look into Israeli lawyer Mordechai Tzivin's complaint against the Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.

      Tzivin filed a complaint against Abbas and senior Hamas leaders to the ICC. In his complaint, he claimed that Abbas is responsible for "terrorist operations" carried out by Hamas against Israelis."

      It's way past time that some Palestinian lawyer got off his hindquarters and filed multiple charges against multiple Israelis. Get a few cases up and running in response to this (which will probably be thrown out amidst much judicial tittering).

      There's simply no point in Palestinians participating in the endless piece-processing of their land by Israel. They'll just end up living in the holes in the cheese.

  • Updated: Remote-control gun installed atop wall near Bethlehem -- Ma'an
  • Friedman prepares American Jews for a divorce from zealot Israel
    • "This would give it until June 2017..."
      You don't think they'd be planning to celebrate the 100th anniversary of Balfour in a similar manner to the way they 'celebrated' the 50th? Anybody *not* think there are plans in the works to whip up another intifada that will be made as bloody as possible, with as much blame as possible being cast on the Palestinians, and those military orders and plans we know *have* (didn't they have exercises two or three years ago?) been made already to push them into Jordan coming to fruition? I'm sure there are plenty of hardline zionutters on the ground there who sincerely believe they can get away with it again - only dramatic change in the political outlook of the US can change that belief.

  • Amid 'climate of fear' at Vassar, president comes out against 'action and protest' re Israel
  • 'Not a single person in this room would accept living as Palestinians do, generation after generation'
  • State Dep't tries to clean up Kerry's 'Poof'
    • @JeffB
      "My township just finished a 15 year project..."
      Was this project across the border in Mexico (or Canada)?
      Is it for Whites, or Christians, or Jews only?
      Has your township actively dispossessed owners of their land, their livelihoods, even their lives with zero compensation?
      Did you have government assistance in order to deprive these dispossessed people of representation and rights before the law?
      Where do you get off, making such a stupid comparison?!!

  • 'NYT' stamps Jimmy Carter 'radioactive' and not 'a force for good'
    • Radio interviewed a woman from WaPo who was rhapsodizing comedic over Bush's Putin. Don't recall her name, but hopefully she'll have a piece up.

      I'm reminded of one of Russia's former Grand Duchesses who was a similarly 'talented' painter. Maybe his paintings will end up like hers - in a dusty corner of the Smithsonian! (I found her portrait of mum's great aunt Countess Leila in an online gallery - she was nearly 90 when it was done in the late 1930's, wasn't evacuated from Denmark in the 40's, died at 92 in '44.)

  • Not an April Fool's joke: U.S. weighs releasing Pollard to keep Israelis at negotiating table
    • I've tried the link, but keep getting a completely blank page!

    • It's obviously waaay past time that somebody leaked the contents of the secret memo on Pollard. Let the American people know exactly why he got as long as he did.

  • Journalistic malpractice: Washington Post suggests Abbas doesn't recognize Israel's right to exist
    • @giladg
      "One hundred and fifty years ago there were barely 7,000 Arabs in Jerusalem. Today there are over 300,000 and growing."

      Really. Now go and do the math again, and tell us how many Palestinians live in the same geographical space that was known as Jerusalem 150 years ago. I think you'll find it's less than you claimed, since your thieving lot has stolen a whole lotta land to add to the original city.

  • Repression and resistance in Bethlehem's Aida refugee camp
    • I've been taking a look, just letting the pics browse thru.
      My favorite so far - the middle aged couple up close to each other, both wagging their forefingers at the other...except he's in Israeli riot gear and she's in hijab. Oohh, if only that was as bad as it ever got!

  • Obama's European message-- self-determination, equality, dignity-- is null and void in Palestine
    • (I tried something different, dunno if it works - guess i'll see after pressing the button! - and a bit of edit, yup!)

      "But even in Iraq, America sought to work within the international system. We did not claim or annex Iraq’s territory. We did not grab its resources for our own gain.

      Yes, and what about SodaStream and Ahava, using Palestinian resources under occupation for their gain?"

      And Mekorot Phil, don't forget stolen water, especially as it's International Week Against Mekorot:

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      "This week - from March 22, World Water Day, to March 30, Palestinian Land Day - marks the first International Week Against Mekorot, an international campaign to boycott Israel's national water company and hold it accountable for its discriminatory water practices in the Occupied Territories and particularly Gaza. Stop Mekorot is a joint effort by PENGON/Friends of the Earth Palestine, the Palestinian BDS National Committee (BNC), the Land Defense Coalition and other Palestinian Environmental NGOs."

  • BDS' big night: Loyola student government passes divestment, U. Mich votes it down
    • " flashing his Jew badge"

      Says the man who flashes his Jewish credentials to cast accusations of anti-semitism at numerous MW commenters!

  • Liberal Zionists turn on media darling Ari Shavit for promoting Netanyahu's bluff
    • Oh! You hopeless mope!

      1967...The year Israel decided to attack its neighbors. The year Israel decided to steal the residue of Palestine.

      1967...After 19 years of hosting (and paying for) millions of refugees expelled BY Israel from their homeland, and constant refusals to allow them back, would you expect neighboring countries to harbor filial feelings towards the alien imposed zionist entity? When for almost all that time, their remaining brethren had been treated as the aliens in their homeland - checkpoints, restriction of movement, state of emergency, no representation, etc. Theft and destruction of their (and their expelled compatriots) property, and on and on and endlessly on...

      And gutless, guileless giladg expects us to think there was no possible reason for any ill-feeling towards the zionist entity? And to believe the nonsense that the war was started by the neighbors when it is documented as a war of choice, from the mouths of the zionist state's own leaders? The "evil" of which you write is *all* a result of the behavior of your own stupid state and mostly its *own* actions that are evil!

  • US desperate to keep futile peace process going a little longer
    • " a Marionette Christian state"

      What, only one puppet state? Didn't you want *all* of them to be puppet states?

  • US Jewish leaders blast Harvard students on pro-Israel trip for taking photo at Arafat's tomb (Update)
  • Bloodbath in Jenin
    • Had there been "shootings and bombing" carried out in Israel by Abu al Hija, surely our msm would have been full of gruesome detail and declaiming terrorism. I don't recall such tales. If carried out on the West Bank, we still would have heard the same - though it would clearly be resistance, not terrorism, targetting the squatting invaders or their thuggish enablers/protectors.

  • 'NYT' music piece strikes false note on Mehta and Israeli politics
    • But of course, it's at least 100x more challenging for a child in Gaza to get a musical education, eastern or western:

      "Gaza's Only Music School
      It was founded in 2008, to teach young Gazans to read music, sing and play eastern and western instruments. The school currently has 185 students and is struggling on despite being pushed to the financial brink. Shahdi Alkashif from BBC Arabic reports from his a visit to the school. "

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      from approx min 10 to 20

      The school is *in* Gaza City's ambulance center, so the youngsters are competing with the frequent sounds of the sirens. It has teachers from Ukraine, Romania and Russia among its mix (people who married Gaza residents and moved there with their spouses). One child walks 6 miles a day just to attend, there are not enough instruments for the children to take home for practice,
      It was started as a church project, but has become part of the Edward Said Center in the West Bank, but has severe funding problems as well as trying to change attitudes of some Hamas officials who are anti music (east or west!).

  • Some pro-Israel images to ease you into the weekend
    • Listening to the radio last night, I discovered something that would be rather more fun for the weekend - and thought provoking. How often have commenters wondered about the impact of their lives on children of settlers? Nir Paldi tries to find some answers:
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      "Certain art forms lend themselves to the Israel-Palestine conflict: epic, despondent, near-silent cinema, say, or interminable sagas about intransigent politics. But a camp, twinkle-eyed cabaret fronted by a man in gold lamé evening dress?

      This is Ballad of the Burning Star, a fiercely emotional attempt to understand the complexity of the occupation and its psychological impact on Israeli and Palestinian people. The show's highly successful run at the Edinburgh festival last summer was also contentious, with some people walking out, furious at its perceived antisemitism, and one man attempting to halt proceedings for a live debate."

      The interview gave some interesting insights into Nir Paldi's childhood - he said he was scarred by living in a settlement:
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      (My computer's failing to load it properly, the interview should be between min 35 and 45)

      The show's due to go on tour, so I hope it gets somewhere near me! I'm sure it's too hot for the US, being anti-occupation *and* in drag!


  • In Abbas meeting, Obama dropped formula about recognizing Israel as Jewish state
    • Mmmm. Small problem with that Harry. Won't he be asked what the borders of this "Jewish State of Israel" are? I rather doubt he'll want to declare the same ones as of May 15 1948! Yet would his declaration of any different borders be deemed legally acceptable?!

  • Tony Benn, who said there is no moral difference between a stealth bomber and a suicide bomber
    • That was brilliant when it happened, and I'm glad it's popped up here too.

      When I watched the Benn/Bolton link, i found afterwards that it linked to a full program (37.50) with Benn on Gaza 2012!

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      And then I watched the AliG clip and followed thru' to a really "excellent bonus interview" with Michael Moore (9.57) on democracy:

  • Lebanon 'affirms right' of citizens to resist Israel
  • Does Israel Have a Right to Exist as a Jewish State?: An excerpt from Ali Abunimah's 'The Battle for Justice in Palestine'
    • Haven't had a chance to watch yet, but this prog from AlJazeera's head to head seems the perfect companion piece:
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      Is Zionism Compatible With Democracy?

      "In this episode, Mehdi Hasan challenges Shlomo Ben Ami , the former Israeli foreign minister and avowed liberal Zionist, on the challenges of Zionism and the failures of the Israeli peace camp.

      Also joining the discussion are: Avi Shlaim, a renowned new historian and emeritus professor of international relations at the University of Oxford; Paul Charney, the chairman of the Zionist Federation; and Diana Buttu, a Palestinian lawyer and legal advisor to the Palestine Liberation Organisation."

  • Zirin challenges sportswriters to report Israeli violence against Palestinian soccer players
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      Shows the document presented to FIFA by the Palestinian Football Association.

      Scroll down to section 5 dealing with human rights abuses for some detail of deaths, arrests and imprisonment - specifically for *being* involved in sports!

      And with these two teens, had there been a scintilla of evidence that they'd had *any* kind of weapon, let alone a "bomb" they'd have been treated (if at all) for their injuries under armed guard then swiftly removed to prison and would certainly not be free at this moment.

      rcir stands for Red Card Israeli Racism.

  • 'Daily Beast' labels Abbas 'stubborn' for refusing to recognize Israel as Jewish state
    • Well gosh! jonny, aint that a change!
      Er, by "anti- Israel" do you perchance mean anti ethno-supremacist zionism + anti-occupation of NON-Israeli lands?

      And I presume you (and the other zio-commenters) will be wiping the sweat from your brows in relief that this hasn't been more widely reported.

  • Dateline, Ukraine: How the State Department 'midwives' democracy
    • @David Doppler
      With the high levels of power they've achieved, and with the interwoven networks they switch between (think tanks/institutes/"public" service), all being well known to each other, I sadly think it is entirely possible. I'd come to the same conclusions (tho' i can't articulate it at all well). These guys wish lists were badly thwarted last year, so they're trying a new tactic to get them back on track. It's Iran and Syria neocon style.

  • State Dept to 'check out' vicious attack on Palestinian athletes
    • Oops, my booboo!

    • Mayhem, it's blatantly obvious that the "Border" (deep in the West Bank?! - c'mon!) Police spox was spouting 100% lies. If not, both those boys would have been taken straight to prison despite their injuries (to suffer whatever medical care the Israeli prison system would offer) and would have been charged with having said "bomb".

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      "The television programme (link below) reports that Adam was first shot with three bullets and Johar tried to carry him: he was then shot in his own hand and then had another ten bullets to his legs. Then the dogs attacked them when they were on the ground before the soldiers got close to them. Adam reported that one of the soldiers hit him on the back of his head with his gun, which caused a gash in his head. This later had seven stitches, The soldier then jumped on Adam’s leg and broke his knee. They were taken in a military vehicle to the military camp where they were held for several hours. Here Johar’s knee was broken, after he told the soldiers that they were football players."

      Not subtitles, but perhaps a little more info.

    • The Palestinian Football Association presented a paper to the FIFA Annual Congress last year - it's quite short and readable - detailing the ways their sport is impacted by Israel:

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      "What this brief study observes are the methods relentlessly employed by the Israeli Occupation authorities that restrain the growth of football in particular, and sports in general, through a series of procedures, restrictions, and actions that we fall within 5 main categories"

      Well worth adding to any emails.

    • In fact, if this issue comes up at the State Dept briefing again, the non-imprisonment by Israel should be raised when Psaki quotes the Israeli claims of a bomb. Surely no one is dumb enough to believe that pathetic cover their asses story!

    • If there was even ONE word of truth in the lies the "Border" Police spox told, then both boys would be being treated (if at all) in an Israeli prison hospital and could expect not to see the light of day for many years after yet another ridiculous military show "trial".

  • Mainstream press embraces Netanyahu's speech as supporting Kerry initiative
    • @piotr
      I suppose the camels, like the patriarchs, coulda been extra long-lived? I mean, if these guys were a few centuries old, couldn't the camels be too?

  • Judith Butler, Rashid Khalidi and over 150 other scholars condemn censorship, intimidation of Israel critics
    • @bintbiba
      This new commenter doesn't really care about the facts - note the caveat added "And then tell me how what Israel did is so much worse than anything anyone else has done." Just another one of those "we're not the worst, deal with all of them first!"

  • The Israeli Occupation Presents: IDF Diversity Week
  • AIPAC reaches out to Christians with morphing Star of David
  • How 'trigger-happy' soldiers killed an unarmed man walking to work
    • Daniel Rich
      The sheer impunity of the uniformed thugs proves you 100% right! What kind of danger are these heavily armed scumbags is from unarmed teens running away from them? Their fascist state claims 'morality' while tacitly and firmly (by its inaction) supporting the opposite and preserving its murderers from what should be the consequences of their actions.

    • @Daniel Rich
      I think you've got the meanings the wrong way round - jealousy isn't called the 'green eyed monster' for nothing!

  • Thought experiment. Dateline Ukraine
    • All those policy-wonk committed zio-neocons/libs have been working overtime to set this up as a mix of punishment and path-clearing re Syria and Iran. Hence support for the demonstrators, fanning it up and bringing about the 'coup' - it's supposed to bog Putin down in his own backyard in the hope that he (and his personnel) won't have the time or energy left to prevent the next attempts to go after their wish list. Were it not for Russia, would our electorates have had the time to go at our politicians and make our distaste for more wars abundantly clear? Enough that they had to take heed - and thus thwart the zioneo-whichevers dreams?

  • 'NYT' buries Amnesty International call to suspend arms to Israel in 5th paragraph, page A9
    • I love baby sense of humor (usually absurdity!) and baby 'logic', was privileged to spend a great deal of time with my sister's two when they were tiny so I've got some practice in tickling their funny bones! Niece at 11months was setting up a toy time after time that pinged up to pop me in the face - I was pointed out the door while she did so - but of course, peeked to see her unable to suppress a big smile of anticipation (of her own amusement) as she painstakingly set it up! So many funny and delightful memories of her and her brother when small. She turned 18 in Jan.

    • My first of those is just a little sonagram at the moment. 12weeks and 6cm!

  • 'NYT' says East Jerusalem isn't occupied, and Israel lobby takes credit
    • I just heard the night editor of USAToday on radio, they're doing a piece on all the political junkets to Israel - over 70 last year apparently. Don't know if it's in yet tho'. Since he mentioned AIPAC, wonder if it's being timed to cause a ripple or two in the complacency?

  • The cowardly Leon
  • Time for world leaders to stop inflating Israel’s bubble of denial
    • Now that all this is really starting to take off, I keep expecting to hear the call from the zio-state for all good zionist businessmen/businesses around the world to boycott all these 'anti-semitic' investors themselves.

  • Settler leader's vision for peace: millions of American Jews must move to Israel and Palestine
    • He's up-chucked another (very) lengthy chapter of the world according to himself here:
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      He introduces it:

      "King David Street’ or ‘Street of the Martyrs’ – Shuhada?

      A couple of years ago, prior to the first ‘Open Shuhada Street Day’ protests and demonstrations, I was asked to respond to a number of questions posed concerning Israel’s presence in Hebron (and throughout Judea and Samaria) as well as the issue of “Shuhada Street,” a kilometer stretch of road, running through Hebron’s Jewish community. At that time I wrote a lengthy document, offering answers to many of the questions and statements put forth by others.
      With very few changes and additions, I’m posting that article here. It is longer than the normal blog piece, but as a result of the current ‘Shuhada Street’ events, including visits to Hebron by Arab MK Zuhabi, who also participated on the Marmara, as a guest of those attemting to murder Israeli soldiers, and today’s visit by Meretz MKs, it is most important that ‘the other side’ of this issue be brought to light."

      So much so wrong with that man's mind.

  • AIPAC chair pushing sanctions on Iran is crucial Obama backer
    • I think they already got more Kathleen -
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      "The Barack Obama administration’s insistence that Iran discuss its ballistic missile programme in the negotiations for a comprehensive nuclear agreement brings its position into line with that of Israel and senators who introduced legislation drafted by the pro-Israel lobby group AIPAC aimed at torpedoing the negotiations."

      Iran's NON-nuclear ICBM's will be 'discussed' despite the failure of that Bill or whatever it was in Congress a short time ago. However, of course, Israel's NUCLEAR tipped ones will not be mentioned at all.

  • Mayor of Canadian city invites Ehud Barak to economic summit
    • @ToivoS
      That could be a deflection. MRW linked a report from International Business website (can't remember which thread!), and I've found PressTV with a report that a leader of the rebels is a former IDF commander, supported by four Ukrainian/Israelis, bankrolled by some Israeli tycoon - all unnamed. What horse does Israel have in all this???

  • Netanyahu & Merkel are short on freundschaftsbezeigungen
  • Wesleyan President's BDS denunciation fails to meet university's ideals
    • And Bibi's spitting on his bib and coming out to tell the world that BDS is the new anti-semitism all by hisself:
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      "Binyamin Netanyahu has launched a swingeing attack on supporters of a boycott of Israel, accusing them of practising "antisemitism in a new garb", and urged the country's friends to "expose and outflank" them by emphasising its high-tech achievements and global economic appeal.

      Addressing a conference of US Jewish organisations in Jerusalem, the Israeli prime minister said the international boycott, disinvestment and sanctions (BDS) movement was intended to lead to "the end of the Jewish state"."

      Clearly deciding to ignore the fact that BDS is not a foreign led movement, but is Palestinian. Guess that makes it easier to malign.

  • 'NY Times' and 'LA Times' run op-eds by an AIPAC board member without telling readers
    • Really? I thought they were watering (with a particularly smelly fertiliser) the Palestinian lawns! That way, they'll grow well before being mown again.

  • Bill supporting God-given Greater Israel comes to New Mexico
    • "Peter Hain is right - the two state solution is dead"
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      "In his recent contribution to the Israel-Palestine debate, Peter Hain did something remarkable. In a speech at Swansea University, the Labour MP, former Northern Ireland secretary, and veteran anti-apartheid campaigner broke with the consensus that a two-state solution spells the best chance of securing a just and peaceful resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict."

      Interesting. That blog is one of the very few labour left ones that isn't PEP. Apart from being a sell-out to the Blairite faction, Hain's anti-apartheid creds are impeccable. Perhaps there's going to be movement. Some of the comments - particularly Jon Lansman's (he writes at the Guardian) are interesting and informative too.

  • At Sochi Olympics, Israel is in... Europe!
    • Well, what can we expect from Israel! They haven't even got the camel thing right!
      The Grauni's Andrew Brown says:

      The Old Testament's made-up Camels are a probem for Zionism

      " "Then the servant left, taking with him 10 of his master's camels loaded with all kinds of good things from his master. He set out for Aram Naharaim and made his way to the town of Nahor. He made the camels kneel down near the well outside the town; it was towards evening, the time the women go out to draw water."

      But these camels are made up, all 10 of them. Two Israeli archaeozoologists have sifted through a site just north of modern Eilat looking for camel bones, which can be dated by radio carbon.

      None of the domesticated camel bones they found date from earlier than around 930BC – about 1,500 years after the stories of the patriarchs in Genesis are supposed to have taken place. Whoever put the camels into the story of Abraham and Isaac might as well have improved the story of Little Red Riding Hood by having her ride up to Granny's in an SUV."

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    • Oops, I think you missed a bit - your second quote is from Ira's spoof!

  • Surviving anti-Semitism smear, Walt and Mearsheimer seem to have influence in high places
    • And there should be a special (permanent) surtax on the profits of war profiteers that goes to fund the needs of vets.

      It should also apply to politicians who take us into wars and then suddenly become obscenely wealthy after leaving "service" - a la Blair.

  • Free it or f--- it, Palestine comes to Los Angeles
  • Student who exposed 'leftist' teacher is honored at Knesset, while teacher gets violent threats
  • Revealed: Right-wing group StandWithUs' strategy to combat Israel Apartheid Week
    • This goes with the barmy 'indigenous' claims:
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      So how come finding such things in the region of the former Khazaria doesn't make Jews indigenous to that area? Is it their age? I'm sure there'd be older stuff digging down under Baghdad! Judaism was already a worldwide religion at the time both artifacts were found.

  • The Process
  • New York Assembly pressured to reject bill targeting Israel boycotters
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      "The Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, on Sunday brushed off a warning by the US secretary of state, John Kerry, that Israel faces a growing boycott threat if peace talks with the Palestinians fail, saying the campaign would not achieve its goal."

      But Nutty's having none of it - nor are other coalition leaders:

      "At the opening of his weekly cabinet meeting, Netanyahu said international pressure on Israel would backfire and only cause the Palestinians to harden their positions.

      "Attempts to impose a boycott on the State of Israel are immoral and unjust. Moreover, they will not achieve their goal," he said.

      While Netanyahu refrained from taking aim at Kerry, some of his ministers were harsher. The intelligence minister, Yuval Steinitz, of Netanyahu's ruling Likud party, called Kerry's comments "offensive, unfair and insufferable"."

      And wow! There's actually a comment section (currently not favorable to the zionist position).

  • 'FT' blast on settlements will strike fear at Hasbara Central (if not among liberal Zionists and 'glitzy blondes')
    • "The exclusively Jewish Israeli settlement, X, built in violation of international law on the land of the ETHNICALLY CLEANSED Palestinian towns and villages of Y, Z whose former inhabitants are now either internally displaced or refugees abroad"

  • Fearless authors dance on third rail of US politics...
    • I was thinking someone needs to call Mrs W, or shout "Wake UP!" thru the letterbox - but then they probably don't have one of those...

  • American Jewish leader calls Iranians manipulative 'bazaaris'
    • And you, yonah, love to kick out with your hob-nailed hasbara boots, throw around the anti-semitism club - but SCREEECH when a simple soda-bubble pops against your own oh so tender, terribly thin skin!

  • 'Without doubt, the biggest loser in this well publicized BDS campaign was SodaStream': Reactions to Johansson leaving Oxfam
    • Gaah! hophmi's found a new place to play, down in theGrauni comment section!

    • My blood is boiling.
      The presenter on the prestigious bbcR4 nightlynews just said that the spotlight is on "the anti Israel BDS movement"!!!
      *Everything* they have said, throughout the news progs of the day, has been rinsed thru the israel lens. It's been bad.

      And then, at least, they had Youssef Munayer for a little bit of balance, recommending sanctions on Israel.

  • Rep. Grimm threatens to throw reporter off Rotunda balcony
  • 'I'll believe a corporation is a person the day it gets a colonoscopy'
    • No piotr, I didn't get the oh so fashionable here Polish plumber! It was definitely the Windy City - and the accent that goes with! Didn't seem the type to be frequenting any of the many 'Polski Skleps' that have opened in town.

    • That's nuthin!
      The plumber who came Monday to fix the leak in the loft (here in chilly Yorkshire)? He came via Chicago!

  • Chilean soccer team defies league, retains Palestine on jersey
    • Mike, you can take your "exception" and shove it where the sun don't shine!
      "Intifada" is not a rude or racist word - so what's wrong with the team's fans using it?
      Who gives a flying eff for the "Zionist point of view"? Why on earth should it hold any water? It's just a racist ideology with a lot of Palestinian victims, after all!

      Someone should look into how the Israel tourist board markets Israel in the country - do their maps show the existence of Palestine, however shrunken? Or do they obliterate it entirely, as they have done many times in many other places?

  • Is Obama punting on Kerry's peace plan?
    • Phil, I think Obama wanted people to find the Cory Remsburg anecdote horrifying. I detected a definite anti-war theme. He met Cory hale and hearty, and now look (and see for yourselves) what war has irretrievably wrought.

  • Vote at the Guardian: Should Oxfam sever ties with Scarlett Johansson?
    • I scrolled back down after voting, and the results were displayed - still at the same ratio as when the article went up.

  • Truman always opposed a religious state, but caved to 'fanatical' Zionist lobby
    • Horsefeathers hophead.
      Despite the maelstrom of the end of WWII most of the countries in the region were at the time focussed westward, and hoping to modernise in a western fashion. This would never suit Israel, which *wanted* to be seen a s the 'villa in the jungle', so democratic and modernising movements were quashed throughout the region, with dictators being installed and supported by the west where possible. It was *not* only the Cold War that killed those movements. The crushing of democratic potential, imo, led to the rise of the Islamist parties throughout the region. And who did that suit best - in the region - both before and after the six day war? I can just vaguely (still had a way to go before age hit double digits) recall that the news progs used to refer to the 'occupied territories' before '67(!) - those being the lands outside of the mandate partition.
      "And by the way, are Jews entitled to any of your justice?" Of course, but they won't like it, will they?

  • 'NYT' publishes Holocaust trivia on front page
    • dimduck
      What are you blathering about? What "solidarity" with which "sworn enemies"?

    • dimduck
      When the UN decided on Jan 27 I was upset, as it's my son's birthday. I have been further angered by its focus ONLY, and EXCLUSIVELY on one brand of victim. There were so many others. But we are only permitted to have remembrance for ONE kind. That obliterates ALL the other victims from Holocaust history, don't you think? As well as all the other holocausts of the 20th century, from the Herrera (also a German atrocity, in Namibia) 1904 onwards. Or maybe we should start with the Boer War concentration camps if we start in the 20th? It was a horrifying century.

  • 'I will not uproot a single Israeli' settler, Netanyahu says, and Washington Post backs him up
  • Last mass in Beit Jala, as state is poised to grab Palestinian Christians' land
    • You see that GREEN line at the top of the picture dummy?
      The WHOLE, ENTIRETY of the land is in PALESTINE!
      NONE of it is IN Israel.

  • NY Mayor tells AIPAC: 'Part of my job description is to be a defender of Israel'
  • Sharon's journey was Israel's journey-- and what does that tell you
    • Dr Kanaaneh is Palestinian-Israeli. How did he try to "whipe us out " in 1973?
      Or does your feeble zio-brain immediately conflate any and all Arabs anywhere, and hold them all responsible for whatever you decide?

  • 'Guard the state, no surrendering to Kerry' -- right-wing Israeli campaign
  • Netanyahu continues moving the goalposts - announces new settlement bloc Israel must keep in deal with Palestinians
    • Partition never happened? So why did Israel declare its borders to be those of the Partition on 15th May 1948???

    • Yesterday:
      Jewish Organisations Call for Storming Of Al Aqsa Mosque
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      Settlers Storm Al Aqsa Courtyards
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      Strange how Israeli law enforcement is completely absent, totally fails to prevent this. Perhaps invading mosques isn't against Israeli law?

    • Nutter:
      The Israelis are in possession of stolen goods. That does not give them title to stolen goods. You'll recall, no doubt, that the Israelis divided Jerusalem IN THE FIRST PLACE by their OFFENSIVE war in 48, designed to steal more of the Mandate partition than they had been awarded! Returning that portion, along with all the stolen Palestinian West Bank land 'enlarging' the city would still leave them with more than the law allows!

  • 'NYT' says that AIPAC is pushing the 'march toward war'
    • This is a devastating analysis of the bill by Ed Levine:
      link to

      "S.1881, the “Nuclear Weapon Free Iran Act of 2013,” will undercut President Obama’s efforts to obtain a comprehensive solution to Iran’s nuclear activities. To the extent that it removes the diplomatic option, moreover, it will leave the United States closer to a Hobson’s choice between going to war with Iran and accepting Iran as an eventual nuclear weapons state.

      Supporters of the bill, which was introduced on December 19 by Senators Menendez (D-NJ) and Kirk (R-IL), claim that enactment of it would not impede the E3+3 (AKA the P5+1) negotiations with Iran, but the text of Title III of the bill manifestly contradicts such claims. Specifically:

      Section 301(a)(2)(I) requires the President to certify, in order to suspend application of the new sanctions, that “Iran has not conducted any tests for ballistic missiles with a range exceeding 500 kilometers.” While this objective may be consistent with a UN Security Council resolution, it moves the goalposts by making the new sanctions contingent not just on Iran’s nuclear activities, but also on its missile programs. This paragraph also does not specify a time period (although the requirement in section 301(a)(1) for a certification every 30 days might imply one), so Iran’s past missile tests beyond 500 km might make it impossible for the President ever to make this certification.
      Section 301(a)(2)(H) requires the President also to certify that “Iran has not directly, or through a proxy, supported, financed, planned, or otherwise carried out an act of terrorism against the United States or United States persons or property anywhere in the world.” Once again, there is no time period specified, so Iran’s past support of terrorism might make it impossible for the President ever to make this certification. Even if a time period were clear, however, this language would mean that if, say, Hezbollah were to explode a bomb outside a U.S. firm’s office in Beirut, the sanctions would go into effect (because Iran gives financial and other support to Hezbollah) even if Iran’s nuclear activities and negotiations were completely in good faith. So, once again, the goalposts are being moved.
      Section 301(a)(2)(F) requires the President to certify that the United States seeks an agreement “that will dismantle Iran’s illicit nuclear infrastructure.” But while Iran may agree in the end to dismantle some of its nuclear infrastructure, there is no realistic chance that it will dismantle all of its uranium enrichment capability. In order for the President to make this certification, therefore, he will have to argue either that “you didn’t say all of Iran’s illicit nuclear infrastructure” (although that is clearly the bill’s intent) or that “if the negotiators agree to allow some level of nuclear enrichment in Iran, then the facilities are no longer illicit” (which begins to sound like statements by Richard Nixon or the Queen of Hearts).
      Section 301(a)(3), regarding a suspension of sanctions beyond 180 days, adds the requirement that an agreement be imminent under which “Iran will…dismantle its illicit nuclear infrastructure…and other capabilities critical to the production of nuclear weapons.” This raises the same concerns as does the paragraph just noted, plus the new question of what those “other capabilities” might be. At a minimum, such ill-defined requirements invite future partisan attacks on the President.
      Section 301(a)(4) reimposes previously suspended sanctions if the President does not make the required certifications. This paragraph applies not only to the sanctions mandated by this bill, but also to “[a]ny sanctions deferred, waived, or otherwise suspended by the President pursuant to the Joint Plan of Action or any agreement to implement the Joint Plan of Action.” Thus, it moves the goalposts even for the modest sanctions relief that the United States is currently providing to Iran. To the extent that the currently-provided sanctions relief relates to sanctions imposed pursuant to the President’s own powers, moreover, section 301(a)(4) may run afoul of the separation of powers under the United States Constitution.
      Section 301(b) allows the President to suspend the bill’s sanctions annually after a final agreement is reached with Iran, but only if a resolution of disapproval of the agreement is not enacted pursuant to section 301(c). The primary effect of this insertion of Congress into the negotiating process will be to cast doubt upon the ability of the United States to implement any agreement that the E3+3 reaches with Iran. The provision is also unnecessary, as most of the sanctions relief that would be sought in a final agreement would require statutory changes anyway.
      Section 301(b)(1) imposes a certification requirement to suspend the bill’s new sanctions after a final agreement with Iran has been reached, even if a resolution of disapproval has been defeated. This certification requirement imposes maximalist demands upon the E3+3 negotiators. Paragraph (A) requires that the agreement include dismantlement of Iran’s “enrichment and reprocessing capabilities and facilities, the heavy water reactor and production plant at Arak, and any nuclear weapon components and technology.” How one dismantles technology is left to the imagination. Paragraph (B) requires that Iran come “into compliance with all United Nations Security Council resolutions related to Iran’s nuclear program,” which would require its suspension, at least, of all uranium enrichment. In all likelihood, however, the complete suspension of enrichment either will be impossible to achieve through diplomacy or will be achieved only for a short time before Iran is permitted to resume an agreed level of enrichment of an agreed quantity of uranium under international verification. Paragraph (C) requires that all the IAEA’s issues regarding past or present Iranian nuclear activities be resolved – an objective that the United States and its allies surely share, but that may prove difficult to achieve even if the other objectives are realized. Paragraph (D) requires “continuous, around the clock, on-site inspection…of all suspect facilities in Iran,” which would likely be inordinately expensive and unnecessary, and might also impose safety hazards.
      Taken as a whole, these requirements, however desirable in theory, build a bridge too far for the E3+3 to reach. If they are enacted, all parties to the negotiations will interpret them as barring the United States from implementing the sanctions relief proposed in any feasible agreement. Rather than buttressing the U.S. position in the negotiations, therefore, they will bring an end to those negotiations. Worse yet, they will create large fissures in the E3+3 coalition that has imposed international sanctions on Iran. Thus, even though the bill purports to support sanctions, it may well result in the collapse of many of them."

      The article is by Jim Lobe, and I hope I haven't overstepped by quoting the whole of his quote!

  • The NY Times Non-Story of 2013: Israeli abuse of child prisoners
  • Thug
    • Did you apply for your MW checkpoint pass, Hop?
      Or maybe it's expired.
      Or the cattle-chute's a bit crowded today.
      Or you're the wrong demographic - no males between 16 and 55?

    • Perhaps behaving like a *thug* to MW staff should be a banning offense?
      I'd make it so.

  • Sharon is dead, but Sharonism lives on
    • Also includes a snippet from Sherard Couper Coles(sp?), our Amb at the time, who was in the room with him when he heard of a suicide bombing and immediately ordered a retaliatory attack. Amb does not seem impressed!

    • Ariel Sharon: Israel's Warrior Politician

      link to

      An interesting take on Sharon. Includes him insisting (in English) that he personally checked the houses in Qibya, and found no people. Well worth a listen, not by any means a hagiography.

  • White House calls out warmongers in Congress, as lobby turns screws on Wasserman Schultz
    • In a publicly aired ad (how many times, how many outlets?) the ECI demands that an American lawmaker puts a foreign country's demands before her own governments' policy (presumably made in the interests of her own country) - wouldn't ordinary citizens find that at least curious?

  • Vandal settlers, and their soldier guardians
    • The Ettinger quote from the ToI just leaves me stunned!

      ”We acted with tremendous courage, but because of the conditions in the field, the numerical advantage of the Arabs around us and the negligence of the army, who won’t let us possess arms, we realized that the battle was lost, we suffered injuries and were trapped inside the house.”

      What is going on in whatever passes for brains in this rabble?

  • Jewish Federations angry at Wasserman Schultz for backing Obama on Iran deal
    • On Iran, Jack Straw's just back from a jaunt in Tehran:
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      "Mr Straw said he hoped a lasting deal could be reached and achieving this would boost the moderate forces in Iran.

      The Labour MP has just returned from a three-day visit to the country, where he was accompanied by former Chancellor Lord Lamont, Conservative MP Ben Wallace and Labour MP Jeremy Corbyn as guests of the Iranian Parliament.

      The parliamentary delegation had 15 meetings with administration officials as well as critics of the government, although it did not meet political dissidents."

      He'll get in trouble for this, tho':

      "Mr Straw said the international community, including the UK, had often had a "malign influence" on Iranian affairs since the 1950s and must now do everything it could to help to support the president and not to give succour to "hardliners". "

  • PLO official: Kerry threatened to stop funds if Palestinians do not agree to his framework
    • link to

      1400 more apartheid homes on foreign land announced today:

      "Israel plans to build 1,400 new homes in Jewish settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, territory the Palestinians claim for their state.

      Israel's housing ministry announced on Friday that 800 new houses would be built in the West Bank and 600 in East Jerusalem – a contentious move that is likely to further hamper the progress of peace talks led by the US secretary of state, John Kerry."

      It'll be out with the microscopes to spot any threats from Uncle Sam to reduce Israel's allowance for bad behavior.

    • How very shocking! (Not)
      With a huge team of hardcore zionists, the wishes and demands of Israel are paramount to the Kerry/dishonest broker gang.
      We expected nothing less. The whole sleazy lot are about political porn, not genuine negotiations!

  • Kerry (and NYT) carry water for Netanyahu on 'Jewish state' demand
    • Ooh, Harry!
      Would that he did - someone might raise the tiny matter of, ahem, the borders of the "Jewish state of Israel"!

  • Huck and Jim vs. Herzl and Morris: Mark Twain on Zionism and the first aliyah
    • It would be wonderful if they could be found, but it's very unlikely. Cousin died a couple years ago, just as the youngest grew up, and the last few years were very hard for all of them. The letters were not a priority to them, and I didn't even ask if they still had them until a few months ago. There's no way I'd press the issue when they're still putting their lives back together.

    • When Innocents Abroad was serialised, there was a character called Brown travelling with Twain. When the book was published, this character's name was changed to Blucher. This particular Blucher was my Great Grandfather. He and Twain corresponded after the latter's return to Denmark, and some of the letters were passed down in the family - sadly, they seem to have been lost in the last few years, as the cousin who had them moved several times due to MS, and her family appear to have misplaced them during one of those moves.

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