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proof of 'Israel firsters', for sure
then they can be starved to death.
radii is incorrect. there are two points to the post:
1) that the early zionist were interested in Einstein as a PR ploy (Einstein knew such and allowed to a limited degree, but still deeply distained zionism) and
2) these zionists were loony enough to contemplate weird psycho-suggestion stupidity with an intellect like Einstein.
radii confuses gets caught up in analyzing the movie analyzing.
It is weird to imagine how it will all grind out. could it be that in a fit of panic a residual 2ss is put on the table by Israel and the PA accept w/some bogus borders at the Wall + an added natural Israel population growth region and some limited Israeli citizenship for residents of EJ. if not, why wouldn't the zionist expansion continue to squeeze the Palestinians, really making their lives more and more miserable, until there is some (sequence) of frustration strike backs by Palestinians. This would be all that Israel (Netanyahu and his gang) would need as a Gulf of Tonkin incident and do a Gaza War on the Wests Bank, but more. The idea is that Israel may well do to the Palestinians what the European descendants did to the natives of the 'New World' -- one form or another of extermination and expulsion and annihilation of the Palestinians' way of life.
this
' "We are at the start of the establishment of a new Jewish neighborhood in the area, which will create a continuous sequence of Jewish neighborhoods in northern Jerusalem," said Eldad to the settler online mouthpiece, Israel National News.'
is why the Palestinians can't sell property to Jews; because it isn't selling, it's stealing.
ol' fred, if you don't source your quote, you are passing cheap gossip.
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annie,
what better views from the windows, as well as from the street and from the shops and from the classrooms, are those taken by children; in the case below the pictures are taken by children from the 'camps' around Nablus who attend school at Teach for Palestin (teach-for-palestin.org):
link to teach-for-palestine.org
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how true; I posted above about Teach for Palestine (teach-for-palestine.org); a project for TFP was to bring Palestinian kids to see for themselves -- once in a lifetime:
Field trip to Al-Aqsa
Tuesday November 1st was a very special day for twenty one of our girls. TFP took students from the Askar and Balata Refugee Camps, and Salem Village to visit Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. Al Aqsa is the place where the Prophet Muhammed ascended to heaven. It is the third holiest place in Islam after Mecca and Medina. It is also a place that most Palestinians don’t get to see.
The girls gathered in the Nablus city center and met up with their counterparts from Pioneers school. With Ms. Sepi, Ms. Helen, Ms. Sara and Ms. Kelly in tow, we all set off. Spirits were high and each class sung the songs they learned this semester. Everyone was a little nervous and that anxiety was validated when it took us two hours to cross the Qalandiya checkpoint. We finally reached the sanctuary just after one o’clock. The girls toured the grounds, prayed in the Mosque and then enjoyed a picnic with Ms. Sara. Gifts for family members were purchased and we took a quick tour of the Old City before heading back to Nablus, finally arriving around 6 p.m. It was an amazing trip, the memory of which I know we will treasure. This trip would not have been possible without our partners at PBS and Lana Khalaf especially.
link to us4.campaign-archive2.com
for a wonderful report (with pictures!) on this big adventure for Palestinian kids take a view of
link to teach-for-palestine.org
How about a fantastic way to celebrate Land Day?
To celebrate Land Day I am going to make another contribution to my favorite Palestinian cause, Teach for Palestine,
www.teach-for-palestine.org
I am proud that my incredibly talented daughter will also celebrate Land Day by sending some of her baby-sitting money to teach-for-palestine.org
So, if the faithful followers of mondoweiss.net are looking for a way to celebrate Land Day, check out teach-for-palestine.org (or another deserving Palestinian non-governmental organization) and contribute to help Palestine!!!!
Teach for Palestine information:
"Each year TFP works with hundreds of refugees and at-risk Palestinian youngsters. We instruct our students in English, social responsibility, and physical fitness. ...
"For Palestinian children, English language unlocks the door to higher education. It lets them take a role in rebuilding their suffocated economy. It gives them a chance to tell their stories to the outside world. TFP works with youth who would otherwise be denied that chance."
Maybe mondweiss can consider listing worthy organizations like Teach for Palestine that are desperate for donations so mondoweiss followers can adopt a Palestinian cause (while of course continuing with the all important support of mondoweiss).
a BDS tailored for the so-called settlements? this doesn't make sense since the so-called settlements are a continual creation of Israel and are pretty much wholly subsidized by Israel; so arresting a whore doesn't mean much as long as the pimp smugly stands at the corner and directs the business.
So, while 55 Harvard students are off on a field trip seeing the ugliness of occupied Palestine, "American University Washington College of Law chapter of Students for Justice for Palestine held a fundraiser to benefit Teach for Palestine and our scholarship programs. Led by President, and TFP alumni, Kaitlin Brush, SJP raised almost $500 to benefit refugee children in Palestine."
which is going to help a lot of smart Palestinian kids get even smarter!!!!
link to teach-for-palestine.org
it seems that Obama out-smarted and out-flanked self-delusional Netanyahu by a classic rope-a-dope.
the above are some of the women of Teach-for-Palestine (teach-for-palestine.org) who struggle every day in Palestine to bring the best possible education for Palestinian children; an operation that does its best to thrive on shoe-strings tied together.
If I may,
“Today on International Women’s Day we want to take a second to thank the many women who work for and with us. Working in Nablus has brought us into contact with so many amazing Palestinian women and girls. We are honored to be associated with the women’s centers in Deir al Hatab and Salem and the El Lid Center in Askar, which hosts our classes for policewomen and young mothers, as well as doing so much for women in Askar Camp. We are proud to be associated with Pioneers Baccalaureate School, the only coed school in Nablus, and its principal Lana Amad, who doubles as a TFP board member.
We also want to thank the strong women past and present who work for us. Women like Assistant Director Helen Brooks, Casey Alt in Balata, Frieda Becker in Kiryat Luza, Ella Shtaya in Salem, Violet in Deir al Hatab, and our newest additions Rita and Sarah J.
In a country like Palestine, where women are still second class citizens in so many ways, it is heartening to see these women making a difference in their communities and to think we can be a little part of making those changes.”
link to teach-for-palestine.org
seems like Obama has played a 'rope-a-dope' policy with Netanyahu and all the aipac types to perfection. Now Israel realizes it is really all along and is backing off; Obama has leashed the aggressive Israel. so now Netanyahu will have to put off his fantasy of bombing Iran, maybe he'll never get to, poor Netanyahu
I believe videos will be posted.
someone has to have the nerve to go first and imagine that Israelis and Palestinians can live side by side in the same community; this is the only way the single state, with community and citizenship for all Israelis and Palestinians, will happen. Certainly there will have to be care taken, but this is the way to integrate the I/P.
ok; how about BOBO?
So BOBO appears to be secure to continue in his mission. What will the end be -- a small reservation for the 'good' non-citizen Palestinians; those who will be happy grunts, those who pledge their servitude, who will have no culture, no hope, to pass on to their children?
Of course, there will be a conflagration, maybe in five years or ten years or maybe fifteen years hence. This great war will be the final solution for the ME problem. How utterly depressing for the Palestinians; how utterly depressing for the Israelis and everyone else.
All because of the insane twist of history that has produced the megalomaniac BOBO and his Jewish state. Maybe there is a g-d, an evil g-d, who like the devil in The Master and Margarita, takes perverse joy in watching humanity devour itself.
The big question is when Israel will attack Iran. since it is unlikely that the US will make the initial move and carry out the war for Israel while Obama is president, my money is on Israel attacking before the November election if Netanyahu thinks Obama will win (the October surprise in this case) or wait till right after the election if he thinks the stupid republican will win.
Maybe Israel will arrange a Gulf of Tonkin fraud to get the US to do the attack.
The Quartet sponsored I/P negotiation of course won’t produce anything like a path towards a settlement for a 2ss; anyone who isn’t a complete idiot knows that the 2ss is long gone. But the Palestinians must be willing to go through with this to expose the Israeli charade. The supposed talks take away Netanyahu’s masquerade that it is he who really wants to negotiate and the Palestinians are intransigent. Much more important, this forces the Israel to say something about borders. Obviously, any offer that Netanyahu/Israel will make will not be in the ballpark for any kind of 2ss settlement, and the world (including the US) will know this. Thus, once Israel actually express their boundary position, it will be obvious that their claim to be serious, wanting a 2ss, is a complete charade. At this point, the Israeli position becomes indefensible; thus, the Palestinians will have much more leverage with the UN; the US’s support (domestically and internationally) will be left ‘without clothes’; and the BDS movement will become an accepted the standard of morality.
Israel is trying to scuttle the peace talks BEFORE Jan 26th, the day the Quartent mandated for their border proposal. Israel/Netanyahu will do anything to avoid making an actual border statement. It is therefore a good idea for Abbas to continue the charade talks even in the face of Israel's intransigence and dishonesty. This will not only put Palestine in a very comfortable position for their UN initiative; but, more importantly, will expose in the most explicit way the truth about Israel's intentions. This would be a major international 'coup' for the Palestinians and will certainly notch-up BDS in a big way.
mle and others, as long as your talking about putting your spare change towards a righteous Palestinian cause, particularly for education, check out (as I posted above)
link to teach-for-palestine.org
it is truly remarkable how much the Palestinians do accomplish in providing education services despite next to no financial support and the terrible burden of the occupation; check out
link to teach-for-palestine.org
the miracle workers.
washingtonpost.com
the assassinations of the Iranian scientist, Israel chuckles and the US vehemently denies involvement, then the US leaks of Israel's dirty doings (which Iran and Israel also see) , and now
link to washingtonpost.com
(Iran holds out a hint of an olive branch to the US and UN); maybe the US and Iran are of sorts cooperating, really trying to avoid a huge mess that Israel is trying to get started.
Ramzi Jaber and ToivoS,
this all leads one to wonder how Netanyahu/Israel is going to spin this and how will this all affect Israel's behavior?
I wonder what the Netanyahu/Israeli spin machine is going to say about this.
so you can't be Jewish if your not Israeli?
actually, Plessy v. Ferguson is not accurate in that this ruling supposed there could be 'separate but equal'; I don't think there is even a pretense of the Palestinians being equal.
Plessy v. Ferguson
I think you mean, 'democracy?'
the last frame caught the irony of it all.
I totally agree with Annie. Israel is inventing new and improved ways of screwing the Palestinian people -- preferably all under the radar. This zoning method seems particularly insidious; pure, unadulterated slime.
I find myself wondering what the ultimate thinking may be about what will be done with those 'pesky' Palestinians. is the plan to put them on small patch reservations on particularly useless land and then expect a 'thank you'; this will only be for the 'good' Palestinians, but only as resident aliens. The ungrateful, 'bad' Palestinians will have to go somewhere else, who cares where; but their land stays with Israel.
eee, your full of ..... .
read what I said; Israel takes the resources (land, water, natural resources) of Palestine. You are confusing to realize that resources are also a necessary component of 'economic activity'. Thus, Israel takes the resources and leaves nothing (including land) for the Palestinians to live on (land, water, and resources).
understand now?
read what I said; Israel takes the resources (land, water, natural resources) of Palestine. You are confusing to realize that resources are also a necessary component of 'economic activity'. Thus, Israel takes the resources and leaves nothing (including land) for the Palestinians to live on (land, water, and resources).
understand now?
unlike what eee said below about the economic integration, the real question is whether there will be a sufficient international outrage to inspire action against the Israeli corruption against the Palestinian people. The problem in this regard is obviously the seeming unquestioning support from the US legislators and the sophistication of the Israeli PR's branding for public opinion. Can the ugly and outrageous behavior by the so-called settlers actually turn US public opinion? How about in Israel?
eee + hophmi forget the recent news of the Israel Supreme Court giving the green light for the continued extraction of the resources of Palestine; also noted above the Israeli/so-called settlers use of water from Palestine; also, how about the Palestinian land the Israelis can't seem to stop themselves from thieving -- so,
Quiet, eee + hophmi. Don't confuse yourselves with facts. Your heads may explode if you realize that the South Africa analogy is intellectually on-point.
Wait -- also can't forget that 20% of Israel population is Palestinian origin.
I link to 'happy new year' wishes from the children of Palestine
teach-for-palestine.org
Annie, I have been told over and over and over again how it is myth that the so-called settlers steal Palestinian lands; rather, I am told, the land has been abandoned and bought.
What a racket; cleanse and remove evidence of the Palestinian owners and their villages, declare the land as abandoned (even for a day), appropriate the land, and sell (or give it) for Jewish development; it's like some kind of mafiosa dream.
It may be that what are thought to be irreconcilable differences are really only such from a particular point of view; can it be that a rearranging an ordering, by a different perspective, what was irreconcilable can be found to be non-irreconcilable?
Strenger (St) proclaims that the 2ss is dead, too much water has gushed over the dam of what were the quasi-borders so that the demarcation has now been washed away and the flood gates are wide open. Others simply point out the obvious; there has not been a slow death of the 2ss, rather the 2ss was pretty much DOA, a corpse even before Israel was born.
St also laments that the alternative 1ss may be best thought of as being terminally stuck between a rock and a hard place; in particular, the 1ss doesn’t fit either with the Jewish psyche of needing to control security or with how a binational governance could co-exist. So, according to St’s figuring, a 1ss solution is still-born.
St is correct that any hope of a 2ss is dead; St is also correct that a 1ss is not possible, but only so from the perspective of his scenario that imagines the need for Jewish security and a binational governance from today’s perspective. St is incorrect outside of today’s perspective; a 1ss is possible if the 1ss is considered an endpoint of a progression. The issue is that Palestinian and Israel societies are segregated and the only interaction is the ground between the so-called settlers and their neighboring Palestinians. This is generally known as a highly contentious intersection. But, in some cases, the relationship is not any more contentious than that of Israeli Palestinians and Israeli Jews. It could be possible to build trust relationships, beginning with commerce and proceeding to projects with education and social interaction, between some of the so-called settlers and their Palestinian neighbors.
The I/P conflict stems from a conflict over land. This conflict can only be resolved if and when there develops a trust relationship. If this ‘laying the ground work’ is possible, then a 1ss would not be hard to imagine; begin with dual citizenship (representation) with cooperative governance and iterate towards a 1ss.
it is all a matter of using language to falsely frame an issue; it's like using the terms "Settlers" and "Settlements", as if the Palestinian lands are an unoccupied prairie and moving onto the land is a matter of a manifest destiny, rather than an illegal occupation and stealing of someone else's land.
just to let you know, I find refuge in your (mondoweiss) site; but, this very story shows just how penetrating the Israel-can-do-no-harm brand really is -- even an artist is barred.
there are the righteous types, like mondoweiss; but I fear there is not much room for hope against the monolithic monster.
sort of related in a rather distant way; the Teach for Palestine (teach-for-palestine.org) school got a small grant to buy cameras for their students; the pictures the kids took about their daily lives in the refugee camps around Nablus are periodically posted
link to teach-for-palestine.org
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populations of countries have absolutely nothing to do with considering the research capabilities of universities; mit, harvard, etc. would still be the same institutions if the US population was different. the measure of research output has to do with the academic institution and this is not a per capita measure.
anonymouscomments' question is pretty much 'how can a 2 or 1 state solution happen'?
there is the realistic dynamic that the current situation w/ continuing Israeli land grabbing w/ total US support (and therefore no incentive to compromise) will likely continue towards mostly single Jewish state w/ no state, rather reservations for the Palestinians. But the conflict will continue at an increasing intensity. Who know what goes from this point.
On the other hand, a possible process towards a single state would be to offer dual citizenship to the so-called settlers and the Palestinian Israelis. Then, over time, allow freedom of travel, commerce, land ownership leading to bi-national political structures, leading to full citizenship for all.
Boy do I wish a single secular state could happen --because it is the only outcome that won't ultimately be a complete disaster for everyone. But, it won't. It is the same dynamic that most assuredly drives Israel away from a sustainable two state solution that will also make a single, secular state an impossiblity and the single Jewish state the desired endpoint. We all know why; just like T Friedman lemented
link to nytimes.com
the dynamic of Israel is towards more the fear mongering and the rule of the religious nut-cases, the so-called settlers (procreating like bunnies). So, with the blind support from the US, what incentive is there to limit the ongoing land grabbing towards a single Jewish state? none.
What stopped S. Africa was the international pressure and the knowledge that ultimately be black population could sustain a painful revolution. This is not the case for Israel and the Palestinians.
I wonder what Israel will do about the 'Palestinian Question'? Or will the final ME confligration solve the problem.
Israel has moved beyond being an apartheid state; Israel is a pariah which offends Jewish people with its daily existence. Isrel preys upon defenseless people to steal their land, destroy their culture. Israel survives by sucking out the life of the Palestinian people; Israel has no soul.
ton of bricks?
think not. jst goes to show that breaking the grip of the pro-Israel sentiment will within 'normal' circumstances be impossible; it will be Israel's behavior, particularly following an invasion of Iran, which will turn the tide on popular foolishness.
wish annie's confidence was possible, but the masses are indeed asses, entirely dumb. That is why the Zionist assumption prospers.
also, from above, Teach for Palestine, teach-for-palestine.org, received a donation of a few inexpensive digital cameras (TFP is run on miniscule funding and contributions) and some of the kids took pictures as a class project; these pictures show their daily lives and have been posted on the teach-for-palestine.org web site; hopefully more are on the way.
These are the people that the Israelis fear so much?
Teach for Palestine, teach-for-palestine.org, shows the extraordinary challenges of providing basic education in a place where day-t0-day life is all about survival and the hope factor runs on fumes.
The students and teachers at teach-for-palestine.org are flowers in a desert.