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  • 'Someone is paying Trump to do it' -- Pompeo elevation shows neoconservative lock on foreign policy
    • “The Penultimate speech of the ‘Red Indian’ to the white man)” Kaisa
      Hey Kaisa,
      I still haven’t received the letter stripping me of my citizenship due to expressing some scepticism towards the effectiveness of BDS. When should I prepare for the inevitable? Also, I noticed that Israelis can still travel visa free in the EU and that their trade with Europe is very healthy. What’s happening?

  • Rabbi Cardozo: outlawing circumcision would 'end the state of Israel'
    • “Nothing prevents Jews from developing a tribal initiation that does not involve cutting skin off babies’ penises.” Eljay
      My understanding is that Israel will be forced to withdraw to partition borders and accept all refugees using BDS. Fair enough - but what is the plan to prohibit circumcision, given that about half of American families practice it? Who will be boycotted and what stocks will be divested from? I assume that the plan involves jailing me and stripping me of my birth citizenship due to “hatred”, but will that be enough?

    • “Eljay” opposes child abuse and incest, too! “
      Every rule has its exceptions. Hitler liked dogs for instance and I like dogs too. However, when one is in doubt it helps to wonder what the worst possible human being would do and think. Then one might do just the opposite. What you or eljay think is thus a guide to me.

    • “Below the age of consent, no male should be circumcised unless it is medically necessary.” Eljay
      Thanks eljay for confirming that it was a great decision to circumcise my son. For me a sure proof that something is good and beautiful is that you oppose it. Ergo, I made the right choice. Keep telling me what people “should” do, it’s a great guide for me.

  • Israeli left leader praises Trump and bewails 'Palestinian majority' and 'Palestinian narrative'
    • "The collapse of neoliberalism will really hurt Israel and force it to change." mag
      and I take it, when neoliberalism goes, it will be replaced with democratic socialism. So all soon to be 13 billion of us humans will live together, in harmony; we will stop polluting the oceans. Things like education and healthcare will be free for all, everywhere. And the pretty girls will share several guys so everyone gets some of that too. No more greed, and capitalists, and religions also will be removed. Just humble workers everywhere, sharing the land, living to ripe old age. Denmark and Gambia will both have the same wealth, and Gaza too. I like it. And the leaders will be kind and generous people, never thinking of taking more for themselves.

  • Nine reasons Israel is not a 'progressive paradise'
    • "defend Israel by comparing it to bottom-of-the-barrel states (Saudi Arabia," eljay
      It looks like the Saudis are, for the first time in history, opening their airspace to Israeli bound planes. Israel's trade with India, Brazil, Russia, Turkey, the EU, Africa is booming. I guess it's not just Zionists that like Israel.

  • AIPAC panics over progressives abandoning Israel
    • Kaisa,
      Why spend so much time convincing me? According to most commenters here, Israel is about comply with all the demands of BDS very soon. Also, your EU is a house of cards. Italy wants to get out. Most people thing it won’t last more than twenty years. Then you will start fighting among each other and beg for the Americans to come and save you.

    • "Spreading hate speech towards/about a folk group is a crime in EU". kaisa
      I guess you haven't heard that in Italy, the foreigner hating parties just won the election. Neo-Nazi marches in Poland, Germany. Various European politicians advocating extreme nationalism. A Senegalese immigrant was brutally killed in Italy just a few days ago. Orban of Hungary talks about a "Christian" Europe. So all that is OK, but somehow my posts on the internet just broke world peace. And you want to change citizenship laws in Europe because of one person - me. Between mooser who wants to put me in jail, and you who wants to change laws because of me, I am starting to think I have, like, global influence. Who knew?

    • “Well, since you have lived outside EU for so long time and have a citizenship to another country you can be banned entering EU, if so decided.” Kaisa
      Good to hear. So millions of Bulgarians, Poles, Italians, Greeks and others who have dual citizenship will be banned from returning to their own country. Unless they pass a political test. So when an Italian arrives back from the States he will have to pass a political reliability test and ensure that he has not posted anything on social media which offended the sensibility of someone important. Sounds like a great plan and good to hear that this is the sort of ideas that the EU is moving towards. Straight out of 1984. Depriving citizens of their birthright because they dared to comment. No wonder Britain left. Sounds like Italy might be the next one.

    • “Why wouldn’t we in EU use the same methods Israel is using??” Kaisa
      Is Israel stopping its own citizens from freely entering based on BDS affiliation? The law you refer to is aimed at hostile aliens. “We in the EU” includes me - I am a citizen of the EU by birth no less. My citizenship is irrevocable to the best of my knowledge. Are you suggesting that some citizens be prohibited from freely entering and exiting the EU? Because they make posts on the Internet that someone disapproves of? Isn’t that same as stripping citizenship?
      Either way - in actuality, I can live and work anywhere in the EU as long as I am alive. Indeed, I would be curious about getting a government job in Ireland. Perhaps they need my expertise in finance. Wouldn’t that be something?

    • " my only wish is that till the time you retire, EU has already banned all supporters of the Zionist occupation in I/P to live/enter the area of EU" Kaisa
      Since I am an EU citizen, are you actually suggesting that I be stripped of my EU citizenship? If I am understanding you correctly, you suggest that the EU deprive individuals from citizenship based on what? Posts on social media? A questionaire regarding acceptable solutions to the Israeli Palestinian issue? I am not understanding. This is a pretty dangerous path. Are you going to be taking away the citizenship of anyone else or I am just the worst person in all of Europe? Serial killers, Nazis, they get to keep their citizenship but I lose it because you don't like a post of mine? Which post? Either way, I am probably staying in New Mexico. You should visit sometime.

    • "I just wanted to show I am an equal opportuniity illegal immigrant expeller." amigo
      Well sadly I am an American citizen now. Nonetheless, if I were to ever leave (don't plan to, but unplanned things happen) I am going to live in Ireland. Remember, I am an EU citizen too. That ain't so bad plus I can basically be retired there. Nice weather, good people, great education and free healthcare. In fact, I wish I could convince the wife and I would move to Ireland in a heartbeat. See, my options are pretty decent. I speak Italian too so that's where I would go on vacation.

    • “Illegally entering the USA” amigo
      Actually I overstayed. Either are civil offenses and not crimes. Also I came clean when I got my citizenship. But nice to see the fascist underbelly of the resident progressives. Do you also want to put 15 million illegal Mexicans in prison?

    • "Good. Not fleeing to another country will work in your favor when you make a plea deal." mooser
      I am genuinely baffled. Plea deal for what? What is the crime?

    • "Are you hoping Israel will “save face” by refusing to extradite you, too?" mooser
      You must have me confused with some other commenter. I am an American. I am not aware of any extradition issues that I am facing.

    • "You’re very proud of Israel’s ability to keep Ms. Tamimi incarcerated."
      You misunderstand. Once I saw that she will become a cause of pressure on Israel, I was pretty horrified. Because that meant for sure that she will be in jail for an indefinitely long period of time. These things always work that way. Had it been approached in a different way, quietly, perhaps with some mediation, with the girl being convinced by someone wise to apologize, I think there was a chance for her to be released. But now she has become a proxy for the boycotts and the pressures. To save face, they have to keep her in jail, just to demonstrate how outside pressure doesn't work. It's awful when a human being gets caught up in this foolishness. Note that most commenters, such as yourself, who advocate for the most radical solutions to the problem, have nothing themselves to lose.

    • "Zraelis also invented mustard !!:"
      They don't have to invent it to make it. You can boycott Japanese cars; it doesn't mean the Japanese invented cars. Either way, ponder the absurdity: the belief that by boycotting Feta or mustard you will push Israel to let itself be invaded by 10 million hostile refugees, when you cannot even ensure the freeing of a single Palestinian prisoner.
      The truth is, some of the worst people I know are Jewish. Some of the best are Jewish too. I don't even particularly like Israelis. But the conviction that you will coerce Israel "into compliance" through the tactics of boycott is a delusion; similar to the "free everything/perfect society" delusion incidentally shared by the same group.

    • “he means the sephardic bulgarians have nukes! in new mexico no less.”
      Well, I am actually an American citizen now so that’s all past. But I sense the racism. Anyway Annie, a few months back you said that Ahed Tamimi would be “shortly” released. She wasn’t. Then you said that there will be “hell to pay” if she wasn’t. Where is the so called hell? Your BDS can’t even secure a release of a girl from jail, I can’t imagine what it can do for your more ambitious objectives.
      The nukes matter. They mean that you can shout abuse online but you cannot touch Israel.

    • “He’s not Israeli, so he must have meant Bulgarians who hail from Spain (they guess) and live in New Mexico.”
      Do you have an alternate theory about the origins of the Bulgarian Sephardic community? Does your theory explain why until recently they spoke and prayed in Ladino (a Spanish dialect)? Why did they cook Spanish food and wrote their grave inscriptions in Spanish? Why the Spanish government provides them (myself included) with automatic citizenship. Are you suggesting that a bunch of Bulgarians decided to do all these things just for fun?
      I am all attention.

    • “AIPAC should have stuck with Hillel.”
      Hillel died on the train to Treblinka. Now we have nukes and you can boycott Israeli mustard. I like these odds.

  • Israel’s Justice Minister endorses apartheid -- the Jewish state 'at the expense of equality'
    • “You and your kind support said state and ideology (while also blaming it’s victims).”
      What do you think is appropriate punishment for me then (given that I am worse than a person who obeyed illegal orders to kill children)?

    • "Instead he condemns an IDF combat vet who was appalled at his orders as a religious apostate." Mooser
      So here you are, defending Yoni Falic, while condemning Jon and me. Yoni has admitted to committing atrocities, including the murder of innocent civilians, women and children. I have never shot with a gun, let alone kill someone; neither has Jon. (I am basing this simply on what people are stating here). Nonetheless, you defend Yoni - because he expresses disdain for Judaism, hatred for Israel, and is supposedly upset at what he did. In your moral schema, it seems that murdering children, followed by much hatred of Judaism is better than never killing a civilian and expressing doubts about some of the goals and methods of BDS. This is incongruous. It would make sense if Yoni was lying in jail, having received his just punishment (death in Texas, life in prison in most places). It does not if his only punishment is writing on blogs. Why do you hate me, someone who has always treated all Arabs/Muslims with respect, yet you defend a murderer too afraid to face to his punishment?

  • No, hurting Palestinian refugees doesn't help peace
    • " It is a blueprint for the days after the IDF surrenders ."
      I thought that boycotting Sabra hummus and sodastreams alone would do it. Why the need for a war?

  • Israeli paper's publication of BDS ad marks beginning of society's return to sanity
    • Also, my post about punishing Palestinians was written tongue in cheek, as a sort of typical commenter here but on the opposite side. Just to show how all this aggressiveness sounds. Of course I only want love, peace and understanding but don’t think these come about by not seeing a concert.

    • kaisa,
      You consider it among your life’s accomplishments that a bunch of 14 year old girls in Tel Aviv couldn’t go to see a 21 year old singer in concerts. I think that’s the behavior and thought pattern of a bully, par excellence. As to me, I was the one being bullied at school, for a host of reasons, not least being Jewish, but also being physically weak. This, however, has given me exquisite understanding of the psychology of bullies. One thing they all do is they always have a moral cause as a cover for their aggression. Like when you prevent girls from seeing a concert, it’s for “human rights”.

    • The thesis of the BDS movement is: either you starve (through boycotts) or you accept, arm and feed ten million foreign refugees whose chief purpose is to kill you. In short, you die either from lack of food or by being shot and killed. It’s a tough pick.

    • The best way to respond to BDS is to punish the Palestinians, and harshly so. For example, Israel could increase the settlements, impose additional checkpoints, arrest more people, and indefinitely detain Palestinians for the smallest violations. In this way, supporters of BDS would realize that they harm the Palestinians much more than the Israelis. So for each sabra hummus not sold a Palestinian could be indefinitely detained for certain number of days.

  • Naked justice
  • What's wrong with colonialism?
    • “Not the religion, Zionist neo-tribalism, the internal solidarity of a people apart.”
      I am for sure not a Zionist then. I feel more internal solidarity with the average random person from Benin than with the commenter Mooser.

  • Trump's line on 'shithole countries' is a mainstream view in Israel
    • His comment is poorly phrased. Yet, growing up in a place where communism was being built was fairly awful. Bullying, nastiness, corruption and rule by morons prevailed while the dear leaders talked about the future when everything would be free. The result was that when the doors finally opened, a fifth of the population left the country to work as cab drivers in the rotting capitalism. So, maybe not shithole, but what kind of place does that to people? Why would people choose to serve as slaves to the spoiled and whiny Californians if it was so good?

  • Israeli Jews will never accept Palestinians as equals -- Klutznick, chair of Americans for Peace Now
    • “I’m gonna abandon my boycott of Bulgarian made products toot sweet.”
      Either you are distorting me or I was not clear. The store in question sells Bulgarian, Turkish, Greek, Hungarian products; but that’s not the point. I meant that the store’s owners are a local Palestinian family. Despite the fact that the bds wishes me to suffer and in some cases to even die, I choose to support these Palestinians and by buying the products sold by them, help them have a good life.

    • Regarding boycotts - I just went ahead and spend a hundred bucks at a Palestinian store here in Albuquerque. It is is called cafe Istanbul and they have a bunch of great Mediterranean stuff and even lots of Bulgarian made products. I think that trade leads to peace and friendships while boycotts cause strife. So I respond to evil with good, according to the teachings of Jesus. I plan to spend a lot more money with these wonderful Palestinians. That’s my response to the boycotts and the evil they seek to cause.

  • New Orleans adopts divestment measure proposed by BDS campaigners
    • "hey, not to go to OT, but have you been following teva? seems like a good time to grab the popcorn no?" annie
      A few years back annie dabbled in finance and said to great aplomb here that Sodastream is collapsing, will be worthless, etc. Well, they went up about 400% since then (one of the most spectacular performances of any stock). Now she mentions Teva's troubles gleefully, making the same scary predictions. That probably means that Teva will become one of the largest pharma companies in the world and soon. She also predicted the quick and easy release from prison of Tamimi, still not happening. Generally, it seems to be a pretty solid bet that whatever Annie says, expect the polar opposite. Good news for Teva, bad news for Tamimi.

  • From Spinoza to Vilkomerson, Jewish voices for peace have long been banned-- by Jews
    • "prison, she will become like a lioness, and may well take on a leadership role in the Palestinian struggle. "
      Your are gonna have to take that up with Annie. She says that Ahed will be released "relatively shortly", due to the international pressure. So I guess no prison=no lioness. As a side, I would much rather be a lamb outside of prison than a lion in prison. You should watch Orange is the new black, prison is not all that glamorous.

  • Israel issues BDS blacklist against 20 organizations-- 'badge of honor,' Munayyer says
    • "how disingenuous! immigrate and you’re allowed to visit your relatives!"
      But the goal of BDS is to starve the relatives in order for them to agree to allow the return of 8 million descendants of refugees including all of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, so that the relatives would be killed. It seems hypocritical to wish to visit the relatives while at the same time hoping they would starve enough to desire their own death.

  • If you genuinely back the Palestinian cause, you must support the right of return
    • This is an important point that many Israelis do not understand - there will never be a peace treaty without a right of return of the 8 or 9 million refugees and their descendants. The goal of BDS is the return of the refugees, nothing less. So whatever the complaints are about BDS, it behooves them to remember what the alternative looks like.

  • Gaza’s airport, once a symbol of statehood, is now a wasteland
    • “Just make sure to register as FARA, and declare the money as income.”
      I have to? I thought, what with the whole freedom of expression thing, I can write whatever I want. But yeah, Netanyahu is a generous guy, with your skills you could make a good buck too. But I know you are too moral for that. Then again, you can make a bunch of money and then give it to the Ehad Tamimi legal defense fund if she needs it.

    • "The Nutàyahu’s government pays his Hasbara liars good money for their handy bull… writings. "
      It's the truth, the money I receive from the Israeli government does allow for a comfortable living. They are very generous and my hourly rate is high.

  • Why liberal Zionists have nothing to say about Ahed Tamimi's slap and arrest
    • "Are you ready to see Israel, Zionism, Judaism and Jewishness debated on the level of “partisan issues” in the US?"
      It would be awful - the next would be Islam; followed by Blackness, Hispanic-ness, etc, until we all fall in a war of all against all. It would be a huge mistake to bring nationalistic hysteria out of the loon blogs into the open. No going back.

  • Israeli court sentences 68-year-old Bedouin citizen to 10 months in prison – for trespassing his own land
    • "There is no such thing as Israel, Jews originally are from Egypt," GodWPalestine
      This is interesting. Perhaps I am a descendant of Nefertiti and Akhenaten. I always knew I have something of the royal in me, now it's confirmed.

  • Israeli journalist who called for unspeakable acts against Ahed Tamimi tries, and fails, to backpedal
    • "i do think she will be released relatively shortly and not spend decades behind bars for this alleged infraction"
      That's some good news around the holidays. I am relieved, for her parents' sake. Good to see that BDS is paying off.

    • "please. everyone knows what the implication of that is. if he was talking about your sister or daughter…"
      You stated that she will be shortly released without punishment due to "global pressure". So why worry? I trust you and am waiting for the release.

  • Pop star 'Lorde' honors BDS call, cancels Tel Aviv concert
    • “It bothered him – a Bulgarian who hails from Spain (he guesses) and lives in New Mexico – that Lorde cancelled a gig”
      The hail from Spain refers to my heritage. It’s not contested that Bulgarian Jews are from Spain and have names like Catalan, Arroyo, Frances, etc. As to me being bothered - far from it. Each day, 151 thousand people die. One day my turn will come as well. I try to find as much as meaning as I can in my remaining days. A concert cancellation or the permanent conflict in the Middle East bothers me not a bit. Indeed, if there is a way to profit from the concert cancellation, I surely would. Like I said, if I could find a profitable Palestinian company to invest in I would not hesitate a moment.

    • "I do agree that you, catalan and other Zionists should form an anti-Russia BDS movement and urge Lorde to cancel her Russia gig." eljay
      I don't believe in punishing individual citizens for the actions of the government. Otherwise, I could be punished for the actions of the American government and I wouldn't want that. Also, I tend to do things logically. Since I don't understand how cancelling a concert leads either to a return of the Palestinian refugees or Russian withdrawal from Crimea, I think I will abstain. Nonetheless, the Russian economy is booming and I have considerable investments in Russian companies. I also invest in the Middle East, in various Arab countries which detest Israel. It's logical to make money.

  • New Yorkers rally in solidarity with Ahed Tamimi
    • Kaisa,
      Finland is different. Here in the US we hate each other so much that people get divorced, families fall apart over politics. If you mention something political at a family gathering, it will all end up will people leaving and never speaking to each other. See for example Annie and I are both American citizens, nonetheless we have absolutely zero in common. I would be scared if I agreed with her. If she said she liked dogs I would start thinking there is something wrong with dogs out of sheer fear that I am in agreement with her. So when one sides takes power they seek to destroy the other. That includes public radio, it’s totally biased (incidentally it’s very pro Democratic because the Republicans want to shut it down so it’s a bargaining chip). The United States is a zero sum game - gain for one is a loss for the other.

    • "NPR and BBC are quite sophisticated (criminal) in their propaganda. " Cigargod
      I am also not a fan of taxpayer-funded media, since it promotes state propaganda. It would not be a big loss is NPR is shut down.

  • The New York Times tries to make the Ahed Tamimi story go away
    • You don’t know what I am talking about? Ok, I will try to dumb it down. I am bringing up the irony of refusing to play in Israel while she is not allowed to play in any Arab country including Gaza. Get it? You are boycotting the one country where you are even allowed to play. She can’t boycott Iran or Gaza or Saudi Arabia because she cannot play there in the first place. Because they don’t allow cultural expression undermining “Islamic values”. And the goal of the boycott is to make Tel Aviv Islamic, so that she won’t be able to play there. So she is boycotting a concert in order to not have any other concerts.

    • “Lorde cancels Israel show after criticism” Marnie
      So the logic goes like that - an Israeli buys a ticket for the concert and learns that the concert is cancelled. So then he says, you know what, I will accept the demands of BDS, so that there can 7 million more Muslims in Israel and I can live in an Islamic state like Iran. Because Lorde regularly performs in Iran and Saudi Arabia, you know, prior to public executions of gays and adultresses. With logic like that, much success awaits the Palestinians.

  • A day after UN vote on Jerusalem, Israeli aggression intensifies in the West Bank
    • Regarding the White Rose and the Scholl siblings, it’s a strange parallel. The Scholls went against nationalism, war and took a very unpopular position within German society. Indeed, they were poorly regarded in Germany for many years after the war. They were controversial until recently. Tamimi on the other hand takes the nationalistic position which is wildly popular among her people. Either way, if I was on the jury of course I would not support any punishment for such a minor offense by essentially a child.

    • “Did you ever watch the film Sophie Scholl?”
      Rest assured, no heads will be cut. It’s not Iran, the center of resistance after all. Have you seen the one where the guy is to be hanged and asks to see his mother as a last wish and they don’t grant him that. Look for it - very educational - and importantly, not a movie, but the real deal. From the last couple of years. Shot with a cell phone. The merciful gentleness of Palestinian supporters is well documented.

    • “will have to mull over whether it’s worth the exposure and global pushback of imprisoning her for any length of time.”
      Unfortunately, she will be made into an example. Precisely because of this global pushback and the resolution, the Israelis will have to impose a particularly horrible punishment. Weakness will be viewed as an opening. I suspect that she won’t see the outside of prison until she is thirty but I can be wrong. Uncompromising attitudes have costs. Global involvement in local judicial procedures have a terrible record for the accused. The opposite effect is achieved as the locals feel challenged. Indeed your doubt that she will be severely punishment is a good indicator that she will be.

    • “up there, you’re at much less risk of getting attacked and humiliated by some teenage Palestinian girl!”
      It’s a tragedy that she will spend the next decade or so in an Israeli jail. I can’t begin to think what this means for her education, health and mental state. The biggest victims of this conflict are individual Palestinians. Their enablers from abroad, demanding absurd terms (the partition plan borders, return of descendants of refugees) are the most responsible for this situation.

  • The never-ending crisis of Zionism
    • “And Lorde has cancelled her concert in Tel Aviv.” John o
      She should go further and sing in Gaza, you know, in support of Palestine. I am sure over there the girls would love her songs of lust and western decadence. Hamas would surely embrace her, now that she has shown her distaste for the Zionist entity. Consistency and all.

  • Palestinians celebrate resounding Trump and Israel failure at the UN
    • "And you forget Security Council Resolution 2334, 23 December 2016, on Israeli settlements, when the USA abstained rather than exercise its veto, thus allowing the resolution to pass."
      the US abstaining is different because it has veto power and is Israel's only ally. For the little guys it is totally different. I actually worked a little bit for the Bulgarian Foreign Ministry and since I studied international relations, I know a bunch of diplomats. The game for them is not to displease anyone. They hate all these votes because all they want is good relations with both sides. For instance, Bulgaria has plenty of business and tourism relations with Israel. But of course, exports to the Arab world are crucial. Then, they don't want to anger the US, ever (Turkey and Greece to the south with huge armies). So for them, abstaining is actually a huge effort, as they know that the Arabs are watching. You just don't understand context, I am sorry. Similar contexts at play with other small and medium size players. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

    • I notice how nobody is talking about the abstentions. These include some heavy hitters - Poland, Mexico, and Argentina stand out; also notably South Sudan. Czechs and Croatia too. Abstentions are as good as voting no, as all these countries just can't afford the economic repercussions of angering the Arabs.

    • "He is a Sephardi with Ashkénazi trauma."
      I am a Sephardi without the trauma. I feel great living in New Mexico. Too bad more people can't abandon the nationalistic crap.

  • Trump threatens to cut aid to countries voting against Jerusalem decision at UN
    • John O,
      The parameters of an agreement acceptable to 55-60 percent of BOTH sides are well publicized and it is useless to repeat them. As you know, politics doesn’t work that way and the remaining 40-45 percent who would oppose this agreement have the ability to prevent it from ever happening. Nothing I do or say would change any minds. It’s just human nature.

    • Kaisa,
      Finland, like most European countries, has given up many of its historical territories for peace. Hungary gave up 2/3. Same with Albania. Greece, Turkey, Germany, even France. When and if the Palestinians choose the path of compromise there will be peace. Unfortunately, they have been led to believe by false friends such as yourself that they can get it all. In return, they will have nothing.

    • I don't enjoy the suffering of people, I believe in kindness. To acknowledge does not mean to enjoy. So acknowledging that a conflict has no obvious solution is no different from saying that some diseases have no obvious solutions. Israel is not unique, there are many similar conflicts, Karabakh, Kashmir, even Bolivia-Chile. The point is not that Israel can't "lose". It's just that "losing "entails" the Palestinians "losing" too. Nukes, air-force, etc.

    • "You remind me of institutional investors who stay in junk bonds for the yield. It’s called picking up pennies in front of steamrollers."
      That's kind of what natural selection is. Those that get the pennies, survive. The steamroller is coming for all of us. I can only think in terms of possible scenarios. There is no logical scenario that I have ever heard in which the Palestinians keep the cake, and the Israelis are gone (to the sea, to America, to Poland, the moon, etc). The worst scenario for Israel - a major war which it loses, implies the end of Palestinians too (i.e. the war would be one one of total destruction). Same with BDS - (if/when it ever brought any sort of pain to Israel, that pain gets transferred to the Palestinians tenfold). It's more like the terrorists and the Moscow opera house. Putin took it over but hundreds of the hostages died.

    • I fell good about these UN resolutions - hopefully they make the Palestinians feel better. They have nothing else but hope and for many years will continue to be occupied. In a sense, this is a good thing, Israel gets to build more settlements, have a decent standard of living, and the Palestinians get a UN vote every year and BDS. So it kind of evens out.

  • In video tours of Palestine, Nas Daily plays native informant
    • "You really should rebrand yourself: “Philistine” is a good name."
      Like I have said before, Catalan is my family name on my mother's side. I hail from Spain, I guess. Either way, what are you saying? That people should give a thanks to Italy every time they eat a pizza? What kind of provincial nonsense is that? Pizza is a type of food, like Swiss cheese, or Feta. It's not a trademark, like Gruyere or Champagne. I study from all - Zen Buddhism, Mathematics, History, I don't care where it comes from. The stupid people are all the same too - always yelling about "country" and "we are the best", and "let the government give me more".

    • “Incorrect. Tomato is not a “necessary ingredient in pizza”. Tasty pizza can be made just fine without tomato.”
      I have never heard of a pizza without tomato sauce. It would be a bread and cheese sandwich. You take the dough and you spread tomato sauce on it, that’s the minimum. I suppose one CAN make anything, but pizza traditionally has tomato sauce.
      Either way, the cultures that appropriate the most are most successful, according to Jared Diamond. Egypt , Greece, England, Japan, all have been masters of appropriating the best from other cultures. In fact, that’s the origin of the word “meme”, it is a cultural symbol which starts traveling, kind of like a successful gene. Natural selection then makes it survive. So if a culture creates something good, like a Beatles song, or Boolean logic, or belly dancing, it immediately spreads. There is no need to give credit - the credit goes to the creative part of humanity (never the ugly, yelling and angry masses) but the quiet workers. I eat hummus and pizza and don’t give credit every time. But I do give credit to Denmark for Legos, every time.

    • On cultural appropriation and pizza, actually a necessary ingredient in pizza is tomato, an American plant. Also, spaghetti was first mentioned in the Talmud in 5th century AD, therefore, credit is due to the Jews. Of hummus, I actually like the Kirkland brand best (American hummus). Just don’t go to the Balkans and argue about the origins of feta cheese, rakia, and yoghurt, they are ready to fight wars over that stuff.

  • US vetoes UN resolution on Jerusalem, as Muslim states recognize East Jerusalem as Palestine's capital
    • “For those who read French, a good article today (Dec. 28) in Montréal newspaper Le Devoir”
      Thank you - I do read French. Also Spanish, German, Russian, Bulgarian and Macedonian.

    • The Middle East is not a place where weakness is tolerated. I suspect that Israel will shortly announce the construction of massive new settlements in the West Bank, just to demonstrate that any pressure will be responded to in kind. So the net result will be settlement, on the one side, and a resolution, on the other.

    • "Trump has done Iran a favour :"
      I have a suspicion that the Saudis are really scared of Iran. And with good reason, as Iran is an enormous, powerful country probably supported by Russia and China. This means that while at the UN there will be a lot of theatrics, I think that behind the scenes Israel and the Saudis are actually talking and getting along.
      The timing of the resolution is poor. December 21, another resolution with the US, Israel, and the Czechs against, a dozen abstentions, and the others for. December 25 is Christmas in the US, all will be forgotten by then.

  • 'Trump's a crazy man, but I like it' -- the view from Jerusalem
    • "And now he’s trying to set himself up as some sort of pre-Zionist Jewish aristocracy in Palestine. Whatta buncha crap."
      The audacity of Jon to want to live elsewhere from where he was born. The lady that cuts my hair was born in Chihuahua, and I was born in Sofia. How dare we primitives live here among the Pueblos and act like aristocracy. In Mooser's world, everybody stays where they were born.

  • Israeli Jews 'will never accept' giving vote to Palestinians -- liberal Zionist leader
    • "It is not bigotry to reject absurd beliefs" cigargod
      Do you reject all religious beliefs (since they are all "absurd") or do you just stick to rejecting the Zionist beliefs. Also, who is the arbiter of "absurdity"? Is Communism (the belief in a perfect world without property) "absurd"?

    • "because I resist the designation and the pressure to conform…does that make me an Anti-Mormonite?"
      There is no "pressure to conform", it is your choice how you call them. Some of them actually happen to be "saints", i.e. people who make immense contributions to humanity (like doctors who work for free abroad). You are free to call them whatever you want; however, if you have negative feelings towards a group of people (rather than an individual on the basis of his actions), you are sort of a bigot. Most people, incidentally, see themselves as the "good guys". Which is ironic considering what a mess everything is. Someone must be wrong.

  • Anti-Christianism
    • From allrightnik to Alt-right, every time."
      The first Alt-right who studies Math and reads Voltaire (in French) in his spare time. Actually, the Alt-right are collectivists, "real America", "patriotism", "our values", etc. Kind of like the Bernie guys (same group-think and intolerance).

    • “When it collapse public anger against...” Mag
      There is an election in 2018. Let’s see if people like the bigger paychecks coming in February or would rather give the money back to Sanders. It sounds to me like the Democrats are scared that the pay raise coming up might ruin their chances. As to collapse and all that, Mag, there is lots and lots of money to be made now. Speaking of wealthy minorities, how about Indians. We have a new mayor here and two of the top officials are Hindus, no visible Jews. Come to think of it, many Muslims are wealthy too in the US. Are you so sure that Jews will be scapegoated this time, I would be much more worried if I were an American Muslim.

  • Neoconservatives may finally get their war with Iran, from Donald Trump
    • "He swallows it whole as it comes from the mouth of his very Zionist son-in-law & daughter: Javanka"
      Trump is nobody's ideal of a human being. Nonetheless, next week he will sign a major tax cut benefiting quite a few people, myself included. I am thankful for that. Ultimately, what he does in his spare time or how he treats others, etc is a matter of general interest, of moralistic discourse and so on. Whereas money is a somewhat more palpable thing, it's useful if you need a heart surgery for instance (ultimately, it all falls apart either way). The president can be a super nice guy too but how is that important? In this life, you can be either be successful or liked, pretty much never both (unless you count sycophants). So you have to make your choice.

  • Times super-Zionist Bret Stephens commits fallacy and falsehood, on Jerusalem
    • Amigo, I do eat pork. Actually I eat mostly at a place where the owner is Muslim, so I don't have pork at lunch, but I do eat pepperoni at home and stuff, sure. But here is the thing. Either you are 100% certain that BDS will force Israel to do whatever you want it to do, or you are not. If you are not, then perhaps it's useful to think of plan B, i.e. compromise. Personally, I think that there is a chance that BDS alone cannot bring peace to the region. Either way, I like many Arabs, Muslims, etc, and I am not in the business of defending/supporting/hating any state, because that's just not my line of thought. I only can think of individuals as good or bad; and only their actions matter as to that definition. Actions of course include what they say. I think that it is bad to talk in general about groups of people (more than one) in terms of morality. So, by definition, I cannot hate "Israel", "Palestine", etc. But I can very much hate individual Israelis. Or individual Americans.

    • "Cultural continuity is important."
      Important to whom? For what? Who gets to define what is of importance? Plus, we are all the same culture, ultimately. We all like Spaghetti, eat potatoes, and like a good book. As a side, Trump doesn't "rule" America. Trump is an old man in a big house who likes golf and twitter. Nobody "rules" America because it is too complex to rule.

    • “Today’s Palestinians and their ancestors have lived continuously between the River and the Sea for at least 15,000 years.**”
      And I have lived in central New Mexico for a whole of 12 years. Why is it important to have ancestors who have lived in the proximity of one’s current residence?

  • Only grassroots activism and global solidarity can bring justice to Palestine
    • "you keep writing stuff like this, but you still often sound very negative. Shouldn’t you be happy and thankful??" kaisa
      I am thankful, but not sure I am "happy". The more money I have, the poorer I feel. The more knowledge I acquire, the more ignorant I feel. At best, I probably have about forty more years (and that's very optimistic). Yet, the knowledge I want to acquire, and the money I want to earn will probably take four hundred years. That makes me sad, that I will probably die ignorant. Also, just the mass delusion of humankind makes me sad.
      Mooser said if I am comfortable, but no, I am not. Cows are comfortable. Tigers are not comfortable. Neither are gazelles, the ones that live anyway. I don't want to be a cow.

    • "But look at you go: You wasted no time chasing victimhood. "
      Victimhood? I can't stop laughing. I own a thriving business and have a terrific job with benefits. I live in one of the richest countries in the world, in a beautiful state. You are the one threatening "blowback" and "repercussions" and all that stuff. I am just so surprised that you worry about me so much. And you did say that when the "blowback" comes, both Zionist and non-Zionist Jews will be affected. Either way, no victimhood here. But for the record - I am not a Zionist. I think that all these movements and ideologies are, for lack of a better word, crap. Or a scam. Ultimately, each of us is on our own.

    • I said Zionists will get their due. Eljay
      You said that Zionists will get their due and all the other Jews will suffer too. So either way I am screwed. However, you didn’t specify what the due is - death, property confiscation or what. You also didn’t specify who will be giving the due. The American state will seek out Jews to kill because of sympathy for the Palestinians? Or will terrorists be chasing Jews? But if it’s terrorists will there be enough to kill all the Jews? And then, who will be sorting out Zionists vs Non Zionists. And what if some Zionists are not Jews? So many questions...I think that until you clarify it’s really nothing specific. One thing I find highly unlikely is an immense outpouring of support for the Palestinians among Americans, combined with a constitutional amendment to seek and punish Zionists (as defined perhaps by special tribunals?)

    • “How would we know?”
      Mooser, I get the sense that you doubt my intelligence. That makes two of us. That’s why I come here - I am not bright but I like to learn from those with more erudition. I follow the lead of Plato. Knowledge of one’s own ignorance is the beginning of wisdom.

    • “but since you’re always mocking the movement”
      Well in all fairness I mock myself too. Also, eljay says that I will eventually get what is due to me. I already knew I was going to die some day, so I can’t imagine what he is referring to. A premature death in the hands of antisemites? Well, that would spare me senility and physical decline.

    • “The time is NOW for BDS activists to push the nations that do not agree with Trump idiotic decision on Jerusalem”.
      Fair enough. How do we get to push nations to do stuff though? And which nations do we push? In other words, do Americans push China? Or everyone sticks to their own nation? Are we talking about phone calls?

  • 'Will the protesters turn violent?' Deconstructing the media's view of Palestine
    • Mooser,
      I wonder if you share your idol’s views:
      “The Poles' resistance in Warsaw is a Jewish resistance. Only yids are capable of the blackmail of putting women and children in the front line, to take advantage of the Germans' sense of scruple.” Eliade

  • 'If these decisions go into effect my life here will become like a prison': Palestinians in Jerusalem respond to Trump
  • Photos: 'Day of Rage' rocks Jabalya refugee camp in Gaza after Trump's Jerusalem announcement
    • Gosh, all of us running hither and thither, following the latest leader and fads, could learn a lot from you, “catalan”.”
      I don’t think most people are even able to understand how things are. Indeed, very few can. It’s why Plato supported a perpetual oligarchy. He understood that the masses are easily manipulated.

    • "And you begrudge them this?" Pam
      I don't begrudge anyone anything. I am aware of the ways of the world. I was just expressing my own preference - which is for books, math, healing, astronomy. I don't like crowds of angry young people burning tires, I don't like "revolutions", mobs, any of that stuff. I don't like them if they are on "my" side either - I get the same queasy feeling when I see a bunch of angry Jews, or Bulgarians, or Americans, or Spaniards (whatever I am, because I am all these things), protesting, burning, revolting, etc. Sorry, I can't stand mobs. But I was always unique that way.

    • Nothing is certain or absolute (Heisenberg principle). Nonetheless, a reasonable prediction is that the proportion of engineers and doctors (or future ones) in crowds of people burning tires is relatively low. (Anywhere, for any reason).

    • What human problem has burning tires ever NOT solved? Malaria, poverty, homelessness, polio, cancer, homicide, political strife, you name it - all these issues can be most successfully resolved by the burning of tires. All these kids spending time studying math in the middle of the night and learning to be surgeons - losers.

  • Trump just 'pushed the two-state solution over the cliff'
    • “The problem with Zionist arrogance isn’t that Jewish supremacists will get their due some day” eljay
      For clarity, what is this “due”? Are we talking about summary executions, concentration camps, deportations? As a side, it’s nice to be a Jew these days - they are doing rather well and yet people are still concerned about their future.

  • Trump intends to move US embassy to Jerusalem, Palestinian president says
    • “As long as Janet Yellen, Lloyd Blankfein and the Council on Foreign Relations are there to keep our neoliberal course steady...”,
      I don’t know about Blankfein but Yellen’s term is about over and she has been replaced by a Christian, Powell. But Yellen’s job was essentially very short term interest rates. So if the current interest rate here is neoliberal, what would be a more socialist interest rate?

    • Many commenters here and some of the staff were/are virulently anti-Hillary and encouraged abstaining or voting third party in the last election. The Bernie or Bust movement now sees what Bust looks like.

  • Flynn's plea on Russian influence reveals... Israel's influence!
  • Israel will get 'more understanding' from Trump's negotiators because they're all observant Jews, Sharansky says
    • “you are either a masochist for visiting and being pained over and over, or just so lonely that even our company is better than nothing. “ Danaa
      Actually, I think I am both. I do enjoy being confronted with beliefs different from mine, so maybe that’s masochistic. However, a lot of people here seem rather unhappy in spite of all the success of BDS so maybe I am sadistic. Maybe I am both. As to loneliness, you are spot on. I often think about death, about what it would be to not exist. I also have other metaphysical interests not shared by many. The regular pursuits of people - political, moral, etc, bore me. Your cruise idea is also fantastic, I love Royal Caribbean. I have a young kid though so it won’t work.

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