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Sometimes my imagination gets the best of me. I speculate and generalize too much. I'm only human. My heart is in the right place though. Something is wrong and I want to help make it right. Truth and Knowledge are empowering. J.R.R. Tolkien said it best: "And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth." Want to know the truth? Meditate. If you don't meditate, start meditating and keep at it. Eventually you will understand. Don't worry about the whole 'exploding brain syndrome' and paralysis thing. Don't be afraid, just relax and hear out your primitive side... Your 'guardian angel'... Become one and be 'enlightened.' and then you will understand the truth.

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  • Changes to the Mondoweiss comment policy
    • For those who wish to focus only on current events, the alien set of ideas and hijacking aspect is in the past anyways. Anti-Zionists need to realize that the majority of Jewish people identify with Zionism and the majority (if not all) of non-Jewish people who identify with Zionism do not live in Israel.

      In addition, I suggest everybody re-assess their position and direction. The two-state solution is essentially dead and one state is unofficially already here, especially when most Israelis admit they are willing to accept Apartheid. Israel is the self-proclaimed Jewish state. Many if not most of the world would not deny this, even among some critical of Israeli policies. Most Jews believe Israel is the Jewish state. Those who do not believe this, what do you believe? Do they want to destroy the modern UN nation state of Israel? Because that will certainly scare people away. Distance themselves from the state and its people or from its state policies?

      If the anti-Zionists among the diaspora want to dissociate with the state of Israel, they should realize that nearly half the world's Jewish people live in Israel and mostly aren't going anywhere. They should realize that most Jewish people are always going to be partial to Israel for one reason or another, especially since many have family living there. So again I suggest everybody re-assess their position and direction because right now I really don't see the point.

      The reason I moved along earlier was because of far-left group-think witnessed in some comments. Liberalism is not the same as the far-left. True liberalism is a centric approach aka left-center, center, and right-center. Many among the left and far-left are the Marxist socialist subverter types and I think it's obvious that they along with Zionist agent provocateurs have subverted the anti-Zionist movement. I wouldn't be surprised if real anti-Semites tried to do the same thing but there is an awful lot more socialist types trying to make Zionism into some ideology separate from Jewishness when the two are inseparable even if you choose to keep your head in the sand and refuse to believe it. For those that do, please take off your blinders and see past your confirmation bias to the whole picture.

      It's one thing to lay ground rules and outline a direction. When the rules are subject to case-by-case interpretation, the direction is not clear and the movement is polarized, I know which 'side' I do not want to be on. In the West, the 'left' is more fashionable than the 'right' leading the 'right' to be picked on more than the 'left' and the far-right completely demonized for good reason. Yet the far-left should be equally demonized because they are just as bad. The difference is they are differently bad and the left-biased West accepts it when they should not. Address critics, don't silence them unless they are obviously trolls. That's my opinion anyways.

      In my opinion little of this is helping the I/P problem. Ignoring history when there are loose ends is a recipe for disaster. Ignoring the reality of the situation is not going to change it. Demographically there might now be more Palestinians than Jews from the river to the sea but not by much. Flooding Israel with refugees might seem just but a lot of things have changed since '48. It's not realistic nor desirable. Most were born in refugee camps and many who were in Jordan have been given Jordan citizenship. Some sort of compensation is of course due, but you have to take everything into account. Including the fact that some refugees might not be waiting to 'return' but are just taking advantage of welfare resources. IMO you need to take a centric POV and realize these things no matter how un-politically correct they are. They still are facts and truth. Ignoring them, censoring them, suppressing them… Not going to change the status quo. Smearing people and others they associate with as anti-semites when they are not along with dissociation is not going to make friends nor will it solve any problems.

      I haven't been an activist for very long, just a few years, and in this time I have lost a few friends for irrational reasons. They refuse to speak to me and at this point even though I care, it doesn't matter. Raising perceptions and awareness to the real greater good for this planet and doing things about it… that's what I think is important. Acknowledge facts and truth no matter how uncomfortable it is because the truth does hurt sometimes. Doesn't mean it should be suppressed. In my honest opinion, I see several here who are unwilling to confront relevant historical truths and even resorting to the tactics of the opposition and labeling it antisemitic when it isn't. And if it does manifest as that, maybe that's a response and an irrational one because of reactive (defensive) thinking. We're only human after all. Nobody is perfect. Maybe these people don't think it helps and it scares people away. Maybe they're right in that regard. Can't please everybody though. Keep moving the goal posts and everybody gets scared away. The unwarranted attack on Finkelstein a few months ago already did that to me

  • Finkelstein on 'cults and flunkies'
    • The infighting is a direct result of establishing a group identity to any sort of movement. Natural human social characteristics try to steer the group and eventually standards are set. Disagree with any of the standards and the group starts to hate you. This is when groups become cults and group think is bad. Group think is always bad IMO.

      Individual expression of ideas is healthy and can be debated in a healthy manner. Group of expression of ideas can lead to the odd person out being smeared by the group. I'm seeing that in some of these posts, perceptions have been created and perceptions can have a blinding effect if you aren't aware of the whole picture.

      What if an agent provocateur among the group steers it the wrong way and the group follows? Then anybody who no longer agrees in the direction is smeared. What if something like that happened to BDS? Or has already happened? Doesn't have to be an agent provocateur. Even if a differing of opinions regarding direction. I agree with BDS in principle, but the group has cemented goals that go beyond ending the occupation and one of those goals might be self-defeating.

      Absolute defined language as opposed to neutral language is good for being specific, good when you don't want somebody to manipulate the intent. "return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN Resolution 194" sounds good in principle. It ignores the other half of article 11: "and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible."

      This is relevant because the latter is more realistic considering the resolution is 64 years old and was not written from a modern perspective. Make no doubt about it, they should be compensated by the guilty. They should be resettled (or a Palestinian state if that ever happened) and some should be resettled in Israel, but Israel/Palestine cannot hold all of them, not that all of them would come back. It would destroy it demographically for sure, but it would just flat out destroy it.

      Some of us are okay with that, but most people aren't. I don't think you can sell this thing with such a specific absolute point here. I disagreed with Finkelstein before but he's just being honest and I think not only do I understand, I agree with him.

  • Norman Finkelstein's disinformation about BDS
    • I think devolved is the wrong way to look at it. This is a case of one person not seeing eye to eye with a group consensus. He's been spot on with I/P and so much else. I think I sense confirmation bias for others and a lack of thinking objectively. The problem with a group think consensus is not everybody is going to agree with the group all the time because of us being individuals. The very fact that can divide a group. I have no idea how to solve such problems, I just live here dude.

    • I'll always like Finkelstein, even when I disagree with him. Just remember that confirmation bias is a negative thing.

  • The therapist blurts
    • Psychotherapy might help people, but it is another form of mind conditioning or brainwashing. Just like self-help stuff, it's stuff to condition your brain to think/feel a certain way. Again, it might help people overcome problems. When you deconstruct it though, it's treatment through brainwashing. Is that a good thing?

      The "Why not Syria or Saudi Arabia or Iran?" is no different than hasbara. Because hasbara is like psychotherapy. Think about it.

  • Ben-Ami says divestment will alienate Christians from 'American Jewish community'
    • That's a great point. Preemptive war is their language, definitely hasbara. They start with the 'defensive war' line first unless they are engaged with somebody who knows better, then they say preemptive. Either way, thanks Sumud.

    • The land was taken in a preemptive war though. It wasn't defensive. And there are laws in place since the mid 20th century to prevent such things from happening.

      Ben Ami might as well be Dennis Ross. Just another mouthpiece that parrots "Back to the table, KAW, 2 state solution, KAW, Back to the table, KAW"

      I used to work for a person who continued to tell us "This is what you have to do" and we did it and it never worked and he kept saying "This is what you have to do" repeating the same thing. Thankfully they let him go because it wasn't working. Nobody has let the US go (I think that's part of what you said) even though it is painfully obvious by now they need to be let go. As far as J Street is concerned, Ben Ami has shown his true cards as far as I'm concerned.

      So many voices trying to re-define and lead this movement. So much new lipstick on the same old pigs.

  • Coalition partners don't associate with astroturfing 'Iran 180'
    • If you're ever in the neighborhood, I suggest stopping in Dearborn. Dearborn is a college town satellite for the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor which is an hour drive away. Yes it does have a large Arabic-speaking population and many of them are Chaldean aka Christian. Not that there is anything wrong with the Muslims, some of them related to their Chaldean cousins and hence the reason why they live there. Dearborn is more modern and civilized than the vast majority of the USA and all of Israel and that's a fact. To disagree is not an opinion. Seriously, Bazzi has absolutely no clue

  • US opposes 'world heritage status' for Jesus's birthplace. Guess why
    • Herod was half Edomite and half Arab

      Palestinians are the indiginous peoples of that particular region. Contrary to popular myth, it was not common for 'invaders' as you deceptively refer to them (because you're using that label to demonize Arabs when in reality the same applies to the Sea Peoples, biblical Hebrews, Romans, etc), to displace entire native populations. Travel was limited in those days and in cases such as Egypt the conquerors were in much smaller numbers compared to the natives they now ruled over. They assimilated and in time you can even say they can even be bred out. Exceptions would be invading hoards looking for a new home land (like the Sea Peoples) because they lost their own or grossly exaggerated myths that are not actual history. Travel was very limited in those days. Palestinians are very much descended from Sea Peoples, Phoenicians, Romans, Hebrews/Jews, Edomites, Arabs, Persians, etc.

      They have more of a right to claim anything done in ancient times than European colonists do. They've got the blood of ancient Jews, Romans, and Arabs running through them so they can lay claim to Jerusalem, Aelia Capitolina, Al Quds, etc. Zionist colonists from Europe cannot.

    • The hasbara gang appears to have consolidated their 'forces' to the likes of yahoo, facebook, msn, cnn, etc. lately. They haven't abandoned their activity commenting in blogs, I'm seeing a lot less of them in the past few months. Maybe it's just me.

  • 'Economist' says Palestinians, denied statehood, increasingly 'question the point of the P.A.'
    • Israel is only capable of addressing non-violent protest violently. The 'non-violent protest will inevitably turn violent, therefore we use violence' excuse. The American media will then spin it in Israel's favor without mentioning such protests starting out non-violently. Unless somehow the Palestinians resisted without defending themselves. That would be hard to spin, yet they would still make an attempt. I don't expect anybody to allow themselves to be slaughtered instead of defending themselves. The media will spin either outcome in Israel's favor and that's a problem, especially in the US. One of these days something will go viral in the US and the media won't be able to stop it.

  • '$1 million prize intended to fight assimilation'
    • Determining the meaning of words..... lawyer's rhetoric. A closed system based on loose alternate interpretations of words. Politicians and junk scientists use it too.

  • Where is Foxman?
    • Ford was referring to Jews in a context that was mostly specific to what he saw as Jewish financers representing international financial interests and the rising threat of communism. He also used the word 'financer' interchangeably at times, not sure he used the word Zionist. He would write on to say that it wasn't the Jews in general as a people and mentioned his Jewish business partners and employees which were treated respectfully. He also condemned pogroms against Jewish people. This was long before political correctness, not trying to sound like an apologist or anything. It was a poor choice of words for sure. I doubt his critics actually read any of the material. I don't think I'm wrong here, but I can see why others are offended. Again, poor choice of words but the criticism is blown out of proportion.

  • Medal of Freedom for Shimon Peres maintains White House blind spot on Israel
    • Medal of freedom? Did they change the definition of freedom? I know these folks like to play off the alternate definition of words in order to truthfully tell a lie, but this is pretty low. Handing out medals? He has a Nobel prize too. So does Obama even though he didn't do anything to get it. Doesn't say much for the Nobel Prize. They gave one of those to Menachem Begin despite his terrorism

  • What was Sheldon Adelson's one question to Romney before giving him $10 million?
    • Keeping big money out of politics is an impossible task, but is it easier to sell to the masses than the fact they've been mislead about Israel and the lobby buys their congressmen?

      It's easy to show how corrupt the financial system is and it's easier to turn the masses against the ruling class. The money of the ruling class is used to influence the minds of the masses on things like I/P. Exposing the unaccountable ruling class and their influence on things like politics, foreign policy, and media, even without bringing up I/P would be much easier than changing established perceptions about I/P. IMO at least. At least that's where my brain has wandered recently. I haven't been following I/P as long as others but in the short time that I have I've met incredible resistance and lost a few friends. Expose where the money goes and where it comes from, get that out of the way, and then tackle I/P and perceptions will change? I don't know where to go anymore to be honest...

  • Finkelstein stands by 'BDS cult' accusation, says it's 'historically criminal' to not support the two state solution
    • I also agree, in pure theory, with Finkelstein. In theory, when it comes to international law, the ball is in Palestine's court as long as they adhere to the two-state solution.

      When it comes to fact, Israel, the West, and even the UN do not seem to care about the Palestinians. No matter how many resolutions are passed or how much time is wasted on debating about it. Nothing ever changes. Nobody seems to care. They could wind up sitting on an international stage or courtroom for all eternity arguing over the cards they've been dealt and what those cards are valued at under international law. The simple fact is that those who have power in that case do not care and side with Israel. Finkelstein needs to stop trying to play their game. For years he seemed to be alone in his message, but that's no longer the case, many are aware of the truth of what has gone on. He is alone in thinking the Palestinians have a chance if they stick to the two-state script. The game is rigged in Israel's favor. Always was

  • 'Do you feel more Arab or more American?': Two women's story of being detained and interrogated at Ben Gurion
  • Because of all my father and mother did to liberate Europe (I go to the West Bank)
    • OlegR, it sure is different all right. It defies all logic and rationality, and I'm talking about the Israelis by the way. When it comes to the Internet variety of Zionist, we see similar reactions to your initial response to this article. It is as if you lack a conscious and empathy, often resorting to deceptive half-truths and rhetorical tricks. Basically the type that pass Dr. Hare's checklist with flying colors (google it).

      There is no sense in being neutral or PC about it any longer either which many have done in order to get others to listen to reason. The fact is that Zionists are in the wrong. Period. And there is no sense in being civil or 'nice' in our interactions. Not for credibility or any reason. You're in the wrong as are all of Israel's cheerleaders. That message is viral now

  • Passive-aggressive George Bush namechecks neocons for getting us into that mess
    • That's their most infamous 'scandal' followed by the espionage scandal from a few years ago. Goes along with their history of being suspected or investigated for spying. They've been politely asked to register as a foreign agent and never have. AIPAC was actually created with their predecessor was no-so-political asked by RFK (who ironically was later assassinated by a Palestinian...). Then there are all these neocon pigs like Perle who have history of spying for Israel but somehow wind up in government positions.

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